From mertz at gnosis.cx  Thu May  7 23:02:49 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 16:02:49 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
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Hi All,

We have a mailing list now! So that's good progress.  I hope you are all
happy to participate, and I'd love to have more; especially actual Cubans.

I think the (co-)chair should absolutely be a Spanish speaker with some
fluency.  I wasn't certain that Luciano wasn't, but I see not in his note
below (some Brazilians have learned Spanish, of course; and some Americans;
but neither he nor I has done so sufficiently well).

However, I do want to be clear that even for this, I'm just talking about a
chair for the PSF outreach group.  Actual Python events in Cuba should
REALLY be organized by Cubans, or at least by long-time residents there.
For the moment, I'm the only admin on the list, but I'd love to make that
not the case, and share--or simply pass off--the more important role to
someone with deeper Cuban connections.

Best wishes, David...


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Luciano Ramalho <luciano at ramalho.org>
Date: Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
Cc: Roberto Rosario <roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com>, kirby urner <
kirby.urner at gmail.com>, Pedro Urra <urrape at gmail.com>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>


I also believe the chair or co-chair should speak both Spanish and
English fluently.

Now it occurs to me I need a clarification: are we looking for chairs
for this working group or for the conference? If it's the latter, I
think the conference chair should be a resident of Cuba.

Either way, I did not volunteer because I understand and read Spanish
pretty well, but I am not fluent speaking, much less writing. And I am
a resident of Brazil ;-)

Cheers,

Luciano

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:27 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've had very nice separate conversations with each of you, and I think
that
> having the people listed here be a working group for "Python in Cuba" or
the
> like would be great.  Do we have a volunteer for chair? (I'm happy to
> co-chair, but really want a fluent speaker for at least co-chair).
>
> Yours, David...
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:02 AM, Roberto Rosario
> <roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This working group proposal goes inline with what I'm trying to achieve
>> via Python Latino, I'm in! :)
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:03 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>>> To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>>> Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky
>>> <mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes
>>> <pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>>> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>>>> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April
Fool's
>>>> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>>>> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>>>> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>>>> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true,
naturally),
>>>> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard
from
>>>> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>>>>
>>>> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>>>> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest
in
>>>> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund
or
>>>> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup
fees or
>>>> the like, and further communication with developers in that nation
(e.g.
>>>> blog about their work and community).
>>>>
>>>> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this purpose,
>>>> and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann, and
Doug,
>>>> and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the WG/committees
I've
>>>> founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of it, just a
member.
>>>> Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is only a little
bit
>>>> better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent speaker of
Spanish
>>>> (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid that language
>>>> barrier).
>>>>
>>>> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a chair,
>>>> but also including other members who would like to help with this
particular
>>>> outreach effort.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes, David...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PSF-Members mailing list
>>>> PSF-Members at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>>>> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>>>> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>>>> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> cordially,
>>> Anna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.



--
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg



-- 
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from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Fri May  8 14:28:57 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 07:28:57 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
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That's wonderful, Roberto.  Let me make you Chair of the committee, and
keep myself as Vice-Chair (but not co-chair).  I'll add you permissions to
the mailing list.

Thank you so much, David....

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Roberto Rosario <
roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the reaching out David and thanks Anna for the recommendation.
> I've been trying to make a PyCon happen in Latin American since 2013 (first
> effort was PyCon Caribe in Puerto Rico), so as organizer of the Python
> Latino initiative (pythonlatino.com) I'm thrilled the PSF has decided to
> create a working group to devote the energy and resources to make this
> happen. Being fully bilingual (born and raised in Puerto Rico) I put myself
> at the disposition of the PSF as chair, vice chair, co-chair or any other
> role it thinks I can be more useful in the working group. Thanks!
>
> On May 6, 2015 11:03 PM, "David Mertz" <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
> >
> > I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
> > To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
> > Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
> mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
> pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April Fool's
> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true, naturally),
> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard from
> local Cuban Pythonistas.
> >>
> >> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest in
> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund or
> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup fees
> or the like, and further communication with developers in that nation (e.g.
> blog about their work and community).
> >>
> >> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this purpose,
> and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann, and Doug,
> and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the WG/committees I've
> founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of it, just a member.
> Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is only a little bit
> better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent speaker of Spanish
> (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid that language
> barrier).
> >>
> >> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a chair,
> but also including other members who would like to help with this
> particular outreach effort.
> >>
> >> Best wishes, David...
> >>
> >> --
> >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> >> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> PSF-Members mailing list
> >> PSF-Members at python.org
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
> >> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
> >> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
> >> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > cordially,
> > Anna
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> > advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>



-- 
Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Fri May  8 23:41:38 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 14:41:38 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
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On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 2:02 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We have a mailing list now! So that's good progress.  I hope you are all
> happy to participate, and I'd love to have more; especially actual Cubans.
>

I'm looking for our mailing list here:

https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

I'm eager to join psf-community but will settle for psf-volunteers as one
step in the right direction.

I'm also signing up for I18n as Diversity is a dead end and diversity-sig
is being sat upon by people who don't want it to go live.

I18n covers a little of what we mean by Diversity, including Pycons in
multiple languages (e.g. Spanish etc.).

Kirby
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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sat May  9 20:20:27 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 13:20:27 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] Recognition of new working group
Message-ID: <CAEbHw4aZDQErAXa6_HvxmHAJ2e-te7xz-eMDxwrhV_2yc6pNqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Board,

I would like to have "Python in Cuba" recognized as a working group of the
PSF.  I have obtained the mailing list python-cuba, that is CC'd here.

Roberto Rosario has agreed to serve as Chair of this group, and I have
agree to be Vice-Chair (which seems more appropriate that co-chair, since
my Spanish is extremely minimal, at best).

Members will be Luciano Ramalho, Kirby Urner, Mary Ann Sushinsky, and Pedro
Urra, subject to modification by the Chair.

At this time, I/we don't have any specific budget request or anything like
that.  In principle, in the future, we might want to request PSF funding
towards some conference, user group, association, bringing in speakers from
elsewhere, or the like.  But it's exploratory enough that I have no idea
how much or when such requests might occur.

Yours, David Mertz...

-- 
Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sun May 10 02:09:49 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 19:09:49 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] Fwd: Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
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Thank you Pablo.  I've added you to the working group/mailing list.  I
think I just accidentally omitted you on initial creation, but hope you're
OK with being there.  Let's use the list address to have the archives and
make sure we don't miss anyone.

Great initial efforts.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Pablo Gabriel Celayes <pablocelayes at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 9, 2015 at 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
Cc: Roberto Rosario <roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com>,
python-cuba at python.org, PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann
Sushinsky <mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <
doug.napoleone at gmail.com>


Hello everyone!

I'm really happy about seeing this begin to take some shape and you can
definitely count on me to help a first Python event in Cuba become a
reality.

I have Cuban colleague that I am working with remotely, and we had the idea
of organizing a small PyDay next year when I visit him ( that will be
around a year from now).

In the meantime, some other cuban developers have started their own plans
to develop a local community, I have already contacted some of them and
offered help:

https://humanos.uci.cu/2015/04/convocatoriacomunidad-python-cuba/
https://twitter.com/pythoncuba
https://twitter.com/COsielRV

If you want we can have a hangout or chat one of these days to define some
lines of action to start with.

Thanks David once again for turning this into a serious thing ;)

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> That's wonderful, Roberto.  Let me make you Chair of the committee, and
> keep myself as Vice-Chair (but not co-chair).  I'll add you permissions to
> the mailing list.
>
> Thank you so much, David....
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Roberto Rosario <
> roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reaching out David and thanks Anna for the recommendation.
>> I've been trying to make a PyCon happen in Latin American since 2013 (first
>> effort was PyCon Caribe in Puerto Rico), so as organizer of the Python
>> Latino initiative (pythonlatino.com) I'm thrilled the PSF has decided to
>> create a working group to devote the energy and resources to make this
>> happen. Being fully bilingual (born and raised in Puerto Rico) I put myself
>> at the disposition of the PSF as chair, vice chair, co-chair or any other
>> role it thinks I can be more useful in the working group. Thanks!
>>
>> On May 6, 2015 11:03 PM, "David Mertz" <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>> > To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>> > Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
>> mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
>> pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April Fool's
>> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true, naturally),
>> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard from
>> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>> >>
>> >> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest in
>> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund or
>> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup fees
>> or the like, and further communication with developers in that nation (e.g.
>> blog about their work and community).
>> >>
>> >> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this
>> purpose, and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann,
>> and Doug, and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the
>> WG/committees I've founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of
>> it, just a member.  Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is
>> only a little bit better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent
>> speaker of Spanish (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid
>> that language barrier).
>> >>
>> >> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a chair,
>> but also including other members who would like to help with this
>> particular outreach effort.
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes, David...
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> >> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> PSF-Members mailing list
>> >> PSF-Members at python.org
>> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>> >> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>> >> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>> >> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > cordially,
>> > Anna
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> > advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>



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From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Sun May 10 02:13:20 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 21:13:20 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] Fwd: Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
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On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:09 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Thank you Pablo.  I've added you to the working group/mailing list.  I
> think I just accidentally omitted you on initial creation, but hope you're
> OK with being there.  Let's use the list address to have the archives and
> make sure we don't miss anyone.
>

Thanks David, I'll use the mailing list from now on.

Cheers, have a great weekend!

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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sun May 10 02:19:44 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 19:19:44 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] Recognition of new working group
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Oh, sorry, didn't mean to forget Pablo Gabriel Celayes in there.

On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:20 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Hi Board,
>
> I would like to have "Python in Cuba" recognized as a working group of the
> PSF.  I have obtained the mailing list python-cuba, that is CC'd here.
>
> Roberto Rosario has agreed to serve as Chair of this group, and I have
> agree to be Vice-Chair (which seems more appropriate that co-chair, since
> my Spanish is extremely minimal, at best).
>
> Members will be Luciano Ramalho, Kirby Urner, Mary Ann Sushinsky, and
> Pedro Urra, subject to modification by the Chair.
>
> At this time, I/we don't have any specific budget request or anything like
> that.  In principle, in the future, we might want to request PSF funding
> towards some conference, user group, association, bringing in speakers from
> elsewhere, or the like.  But it's exploratory enough that I have no idea
> how much or when such requests might occur.
>
> Yours, David Mertz...
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>



-- 
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sun May 10 05:24:51 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 20:24:51 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] PyDay on PiDay... a true story
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3TY_f2P5Ktew_A2NjMv_sywi8LsMYFAGXqq6ppLgibCiw@mail.gmail.com>

Let me give some more background:  I'm a huge
fan of the Python decimal type and watched it
mature and get in, boosting Python into the banking
industry big time.  Whatever you think of that
industry's need to control decimal points, having
a language built to suit is a technical challenge
worthy of geekdom. I went to many talks on it.

However I also know through Portland Python
User Group a guy at Mentor Graphics who works
on gmpy2 and such, an extended precision lineage
in its own right, boasting Alex Martelli in the mix.

The idea of showcasing this package, alongside
Decimal, is what brought me to this idea:

A contest on PiDay to generate Pi to 1000 places
using Standard Library or 3rd Party module of your
choice.  Further rule:  use this convergent sum by
Ramanujan << specific sigma notation goes here,
and it's for 1/PI actually so you have to flip it over
at the end >>.

A guy from University of Havana won the contest.
For me, that was like a mini-PyDay on PiDay or
vice versa.

I've posted some links about this on math-teach:

http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=2246748&tstart=0

That's not my only connection to a Cuba context.

I'm very self-documenting so lots of autobio about
me out there, I won't presume to dictate how to go
about your digging as we all have our favorite ways.[1]

The Pi connection is nice though.

Also PyCuba and PyCUDA come up in searches
and I have done a couple tweets combining them
as a meme.

I know about CUDA from a "truckologist", a 60+
year old Visual FoxPro refugee like me (50+) who
is building more and more Python into his uber-
sophisticated proprietary stack which to this day
routes trucks all over North America (and who
knows where else by now), a one man show.
I'd nominate him for some kind of award but not
sure which one yet.  Trucks still have a bright future,
even with global climate change and all, or so
Jim would aver.

Kirby

[1]

Blog post that mentions Cuba,
"""
I was most fortunate to reconnect with Glenn Baker, high school chum in the
Philippines.  He'd been in Vienna, Virginia before Manila, in India, Turkey
and Pakistan before that, another expat brat, like me.  His dad was USIS
when I knew them, mine USAID, former UN, a free lancer.  My dad'd also
worked for the Libyans, the Egyptians and the Swiss.  Glenn stayed with our
family that time we were living in DC and I was rather newly into the Bucky
stuff.  Glenn got a job with CDI
<http://web.archive.org/web/19990208003721/http://cdi.org/>, and formed
better relations with Cuba.  I went on in software, developing applications
in a proprietary Microsoft language (acquired, formerly *FoxPro 2*, another
in the *xBase* genre), then migrated to Python, which is what brought me
here, courtesy of *The Open Bastion* and my day job.
"""

http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2012/09/djangocon-2012.html
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From mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com  Sun May 10 05:42:43 2015
From: mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com (Mary Ann Sushinsky)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 20:42:43 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Tweet from Guido van Rossum (@gvanrossum)
Message-ID: <CAOPk9+0mWj2sUsr3CDqhnfVbDDLk8i-b5VC8SWaX=fGpc_NvnA@mail.gmail.com>

Guido van Rossum (@gvanrossum) tweeted at 6:10 PM on Thu, May 07, 2015:
See you next year in Cuba? https://t.co/VAxTVWx5le
(https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/596482347752493056?s=03)

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From mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com  Sun May 10 05:49:20 2015
From: mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com (Mary Ann Sushinsky)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 20:49:20 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Fwd: Article going around on Twitter
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mary Ann Sushinsky <mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 9, 2015 at 8:47 PM
Subject: Article going around on Twitter
To: Python-Cuba at python.org


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-norvell/grand-ambitions-young-cub_b_7225436.html?utm_campaign=naytev&utm_content=554bde72e4b099665fd010fb

We should definitely contact these people!

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From mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com  Sun May 10 05:47:36 2015
From: mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com (Mary Ann Sushinsky)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 20:47:36 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Article going around on Twitter
Message-ID: <CAOPk9+00ckpZsqYFa29AHjn4_HE_0bxdA0apmzrrEt9N625VeQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-norvell/grand-ambitions-young-cub_b_7225436.html?utm_campaign=naytev&utm_content=554bde72e4b099665fd010fb

We should definitely contact these people!

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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sun May 10 07:01:44 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 00:01:44 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] Article going around on Twitter
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Cool!
On May 9, 2015 8:53 PM, "Mary Ann Sushinsky" <mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-norvell/grand-ambitions-young-cub_b_7225436.html?utm_campaign=naytev&utm_content=554bde72e4b099665fd010fb
>
> We should definitely contact these people!
>
> --Mary Ann
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sun May 10 07:21:08 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 22:21:08 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Spreading the word...
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3R6h8npu2b-SWMqorGxSu44zoYFPmOBT+GishjMxAv+Tg@mail.gmail.com>

I am letting my network know of our working
group, here are two pointers to my haunts:

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/edu-sig/2015-May/011244.html

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/2015-May/001676.html

Also updated my co-workers at O'Reilly School
that this exists.

Debra Woods, school principal, was just in
Cuba a few weeks ago.

I've never been, though I consider myself well
traveled (Moscow, Thimphu, Shanghai...).

Nothing shared with Manila Users Group yet.

I think an important thing to remind people is Pycons
are not designed to run serially but in parallel.

Some may be thinking "we could not do a Pycon
without stealing someone else's thunder" like a
zero sum game.

It's not like that.  Think of "Pycon" as a synonym
of "Python Circus".

Having one in Cuba at the same time a Pycon
is also happening elsewhere is in principle not
something to worry about.  One could set up
live tele-links between them and do panel talks
together and stuff, lots of possibilities.

I'm not suggesting the misapprehension is
widespread, but I do think "parallel versus
sequential" and the fact that Pycons are
designed to run in parallel, is worth addressing
up front.

Kirby
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From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Sun May 10 02:04:19 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2015 21:04:19 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] Fwd: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
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Hello everyone!

I'm really happy about seeing this begin to take some shape and you can
definitely count on me to help a first Python event in Cuba become a
reality.

I have Cuban colleague that I am working with remotely, and we had the idea
of organizing a small PyDay next year when I visit him ( that will be
around a year from now).

In the meantime, some other cuban developers have started their own plans
to develop a local community, I have already contacted some of them and
offered help:

https://humanos.uci.cu/2015/04/convocatoriacomunidad-python-cuba/
https://twitter.com/pythoncuba
https://twitter.com/COsielRV

If you want we can have a hangout or chat one of these days to define some
lines of action to start with.

Thanks David once again for turning this into a serious thing ;)

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> That's wonderful, Roberto.  Let me make you Chair of the committee, and
> keep myself as Vice-Chair (but not co-chair).  I'll add you permissions to
> the mailing list.
>
> Thank you so much, David....
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Roberto Rosario <
> roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reaching out David and thanks Anna for the recommendation.
>> I've been trying to make a PyCon happen in Latin American since 2013 (first
>> effort was PyCon Caribe in Puerto Rico), so as organizer of the Python
>> Latino initiative (pythonlatino.com) I'm thrilled the PSF has decided to
>> create a working group to devote the energy and resources to make this
>> happen. Being fully bilingual (born and raised in Puerto Rico) I put myself
>> at the disposition of the PSF as chair, vice chair, co-chair or any other
>> role it thinks I can be more useful in the working group. Thanks!
>>
>> On May 6, 2015 11:03 PM, "David Mertz" <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>> > To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>> > Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
>> mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
>> pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April Fool's
>> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true, naturally),
>> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard from
>> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>> >>
>> >> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest in
>> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund or
>> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup fees
>> or the like, and further communication with developers in that nation (e.g.
>> blog about their work and community).
>> >>
>> >> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this
>> purpose, and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann,
>> and Doug, and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the
>> WG/committees I've founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of
>> it, just a member.  Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is
>> only a little bit better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent
>> speaker of Spanish (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid
>> that language barrier).
>> >>
>> >> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a chair,
>> but also including other members who would like to help with this
>> particular outreach effort.
>> >>
>> >> Best wishes, David...
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> >> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> PSF-Members mailing list
>> >> PSF-Members at python.org
>> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>> >> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>> >> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>> >> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > cordially,
>> > Anna
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> > advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>



-- 

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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sun May 10 14:55:08 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 07:55:08 -0500
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Members] Fwd: Python Cuba working group
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This sounds great. Would you reply as chair, Roberto?
On May 10, 2015 5:18 AM, "Sebasti?n Magr?" <sebasmagri at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'd like to offer my help for this initiative.
>
> I've been doing Python advocacy in Venezuela the last 8 years. During that
> time, I had the opportunity to work with a group of devs from the Cuban
> university of computer science (UCI [0]) and I still have some contacts
> there.
>
> We recently established a foundation in Venezuela to help with the
> promotion of Python, and we're open to participate in initiatives in Latin
> America and the Caribbean.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> [0] http://www.uci.cu/
>
> 2015-05-09 19:34 GMT-04:30 Pablo Gabriel Celayes <pablocelayes at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I'm really happy about seeing this begin to take some shape and you can
>> definitely count on me to help a first Python event in Cuba become a
>> reality.
>>
>> I have Cuban colleague that I am working with remotely, and we had the
>> idea of organizing a small PyDay next year when I visit him ( that will be
>> around a year from now).
>>
>> In the meantime, some other cuban developers have started their own plans
>> to develop a local community, I have already contacted some of them and
>> offered help:
>>
>> https://humanos.uci.cu/2015/04/convocatoriacomunidad-python-cuba/
>> https://twitter.com/pythoncuba
>> https://twitter.com/COsielRV
>>
>> If you want we can have a hangout or chat one of these days to define
>> some lines of action to start with.
>>
>> Thanks David once again for turning this into a serious thing ;)
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>
>>> That's wonderful, Roberto.  Let me make you Chair of the committee, and
>>> keep myself as Vice-Chair (but not co-chair).  I'll add you permissions to
>>> the mailing list.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much, David....
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Roberto Rosario <
>>> roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reaching out David and thanks Anna for the
>>>> recommendation. I've been trying to make a PyCon happen in Latin American
>>>> since 2013 (first effort was PyCon Caribe in Puerto Rico), so as organizer
>>>> of the Python Latino initiative (pythonlatino.com) I'm thrilled the
>>>> PSF has decided to create a working group to devote the energy and
>>>> resources to make this happen. Being fully bilingual (born and raised in
>>>> Puerto Rico) I put myself at the disposition of the PSF as chair, vice
>>>> chair, co-chair or any other role it thinks I can be more useful in the
>>>> working group. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On May 6, 2015 11:03 PM, "David Mertz" <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>>>> > Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>>>> > To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>>>> > Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
>>>> mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
>>>> pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>>>> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>>>> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April Fool's
>>>> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>>>> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>>>> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>>>> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true, naturally),
>>>> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard from
>>>> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>>>> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest in
>>>> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund or
>>>> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup fees
>>>> or the like, and further communication with developers in that nation (e.g.
>>>> blog about their work and community).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this
>>>> purpose, and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann,
>>>> and Doug, and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the
>>>> WG/committees I've founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of
>>>> it, just a member.  Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is
>>>> only a little bit better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent
>>>> speaker of Spanish (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid
>>>> that language barrier).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a
>>>> chair, but also including other members who would like to help with this
>>>> particular outreach effort.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best wishes, David...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> >> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> PSF-Members mailing list
>>>> >> PSF-Members at python.org
>>>> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>>>> >> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>>>> >> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>>>> >> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > cordially,
>>>> > Anna
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> > advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
>> *MailFilterGateway has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>> "ar.linkedin.com" claiming to be*
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PSF-Members mailing list
>> PSF-Members at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebasti?n Ram?rez Magr?
>
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From: luciano at ramalho.org (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 09:59:15 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Members] Fwd: Python Cuba working group
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Welcome, Sebasti?n!

I'll follow your lead and introduce myself and a bit about Python in
Brazil. I've been using Python since 1998, and evangelizing and
teaching it in Brazil since 1999. The Brazilian Python community has
had yearly national events since 2005 -- the conference is called
PythonBrasil (one word). Since 2008 we've had several foreign keynote
speakers in PythonBrasil. Lynn Root, Daniel Greenfeld, Audrey Roy
Greenfeld, Fernando Perez, Tarek Ziad? and Alex Gaynor were our guest
speakers in 2014.

I helped incorporate the Brazilian Python Association (APyB) and was
elected its president for two terms. The APyB implements the
"Institution" interface which the community needs to sign contracts,
accept sponsorships and make payments, all of which are needed to run
an event.

A few years ago I had the privilege of interacting with Pedro Urra
when he was director of BIREME, a documentation center of the PAHO
(Pan-American Health Organization) located in S?o Paulo, where I live.
I jumped at the opportunity to help the Python Cuba working group
because I was very impressed with the work of Pedro and of all the
Cubans I met while at BIREME, and it would be a pleasure to
collaborate with them again.

?Saludos!

Luciano






On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Sebasti?n Magr? <sebasmagri at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to offer my help for this initiative.
>
> I've been doing Python advocacy in Venezuela the last 8 years. During that
> time, I had the opportunity to work with a group of devs from the Cuban
> university of computer science (UCI [0]) and I still have some contacts
> there.
>
> We recently established a foundation in Venezuela to help with the promotion
> of Python, and we're open to participate in initiatives in Latin America and
> the Caribbean.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> [0] http://www.uci.cu/
>
> 2015-05-09 19:34 GMT-04:30 Pablo Gabriel Celayes <pablocelayes at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I'm really happy about seeing this begin to take some shape and you can
>> definitely count on me to help a first Python event in Cuba become a
>> reality.
>>
>> I have Cuban colleague that I am working with remotely, and we had the
>> idea of organizing a small PyDay next year when I visit him ( that will be
>> around a year from now).
>>
>> In the meantime, some other cuban developers have started their own plans
>> to develop a local community, I have already contacted some of them and
>> offered help:
>>
>> https://humanos.uci.cu/2015/04/convocatoriacomunidad-python-cuba/
>> https://twitter.com/pythoncuba
>> https://twitter.com/COsielRV
>>
>> If you want we can have a hangout or chat one of these days to define some
>> lines of action to start with.
>>
>> Thanks David once again for turning this into a serious thing ;)
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's wonderful, Roberto.  Let me make you Chair of the committee, and
>>> keep myself as Vice-Chair (but not co-chair).  I'll add you permissions to
>>> the mailing list.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much, David....
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Roberto Rosario
>>> <roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reaching out David and thanks Anna for the
>>>> recommendation. I've been trying to make a PyCon happen in Latin American
>>>> since 2013 (first effort was PyCon Caribe in Puerto Rico), so as organizer
>>>> of the Python Latino initiative (pythonlatino.com) I'm thrilled the PSF has
>>>> decided to create a working group to devote the energy and resources to make
>>>> this happen. Being fully bilingual (born and raised in Puerto Rico) I put
>>>> myself at the disposition of the PSF as chair, vice chair, co-chair or any
>>>> other role it thinks I can be more useful in the working group. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On May 6, 2015 11:03 PM, "David Mertz" <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>>>> > Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>>>> > To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>>>> > Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky
>>>> > <mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes
>>>> > <pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>>>> > specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>>>> >> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April Fool's
>>>> >> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>>>> >> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>>>> >> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>>>> >> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true, naturally),
>>>> >> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard from
>>>> >> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>>>> >> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest in
>>>> >> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund or
>>>> >> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup fees or
>>>> >> the like, and further communication with developers in that nation (e.g.
>>>> >> blog about their work and community).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this
>>>> >> purpose, and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann,
>>>> >> and Doug, and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the
>>>> >> WG/committees I've founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of
>>>> >> it, just a member.  Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is
>>>> >> only a little bit better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent
>>>> >> speaker of Spanish (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid
>>>> >> that language barrier).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a chair,
>>>> >> but also including other members who would like to help with this particular
>>>> >> outreach effort.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best wishes, David...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> >> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> PSF-Members mailing list
>>>> >> PSF-Members at python.org
>>>> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>>>> >> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>>>> >> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>>>> >> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > cordially,
>>>> > Anna
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> > advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> ?ll?ll? ????? ?ll?l?
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PSF-Members mailing list
>> PSF-Members at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebasti?n Ram?rez Magr?
>
> _______________________________________________
> PSF-Members mailing list
> PSF-Members at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)



-- 
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg

From roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com  Mon May 11 00:57:22 2015
From: roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com (Roberto Rosario)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 18:57:22 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] Python Cuba working group
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Hello everybody, thanks for stepping forwards to help make this happen!

Before joining this work group I had started piecing together a roadmap for
PyCon Latam Cuba.

Right now there is no Cuban Python community, at least not under a unified
banner. I think that goes before doing a PyCon. With this in mind I started
contacting some Cuban and Latinamerican colleagues who had contacts in Cuba
and will extend them the invitation to join this mailing list.

I'm sure our Cuban friends will be able to explain this much better than
me, but there are things about Cuba we need to keep in mind that will
determine how and the extents at which we will be able to help and how the
event might even take place. Things that are typical in a PyCon events like
sponsorship could be or not allowed by the government in Cuba. With that on
mind we must keep an open mind for the kind of things the subsequent
members might request of us.

Internet access is regulated and E-mails are monitored, if we want to help,
we have to be judicious in our correspondence with Cuban Pythonistas. If we
want to be able to attend the subsequent PyCon Cuba we have to be judicious
in our correspondence too.

Hopefully we soon will be greeting some Cuban Python lovers to make this
happen! :)

This sounds great. Would you reply as chair, Roberto?
On May 10, 2015 5:18 AM, "Sebasti?n Magr?" <sebasmagri at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'd like to offer my help for this initiative.
>
> I've been doing Python advocacy in Venezuela the last 8 years. During that
> time, I had the opportunity to work with a group of devs from the Cuban
> university of computer science (UCI [0]) and I still have some contacts
> there.
>
> We recently established a foundation in Venezuela to help with the
> promotion of Python, and we're open to participate in initiatives in Latin
> America and the Caribbean.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> [0] http://www.uci.cu/
>
> 2015-05-09 19:34 GMT-04:30 Pablo Gabriel Celayes <pablocelayes at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I'm really happy about seeing this begin to take some shape and you can
>> definitely count on me to help a first Python event in Cuba become a
>> reality.
>>
>> I have Cuban colleague that I am working with remotely, and we had the
>> idea of organizing a small PyDay next year when I visit him ( that will be
>> around a year from now).
>>
>> In the meantime, some other cuban developers have started their own plans
>> to develop a local community, I have already contacted some of them and
>> offered help:
>>
>> https://humanos.uci.cu/2015/04/convocatoriacomunidad-python-cuba/
>> https://twitter.com/pythoncuba
>> https://twitter.com/COsielRV
>>
>> If you want we can have a hangout or chat one of these days to define
>> some lines of action to start with.
>>
>> Thanks David once again for turning this into a serious thing ;)
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>
>>> That's wonderful, Roberto.  Let me make you Chair of the committee, and
>>> keep myself as Vice-Chair (but not co-chair).  I'll add you permissions to
>>> the mailing list.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much, David....
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Roberto Rosario <
>>> roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reaching out David and thanks Anna for the
>>>> recommendation. I've been trying to make a PyCon happen in Latin American
>>>> since 2013 (first effort was PyCon Caribe in Puerto Rico), so as organizer
>>>> of the Python Latino initiative (pythonlatino.com) I'm thrilled the
>>>> PSF has decided to create a working group to devote the energy and
>>>> resources to make this happen. Being fully bilingual (born and raised in
>>>> Puerto Rico) I put myself at the disposition of the PSF as chair, vice
>>>> chair, co-chair or any other role it thinks I can be more useful in the
>>>> working group. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On May 6, 2015 11:03 PM, "David Mertz" <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>>>> > Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>>>> > To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>>>> > Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
>>>> mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
>>>> pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>>>> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>>>> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April Fool's
>>>> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>>>> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>>>> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>>>> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true, naturally),
>>>> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard from
>>>> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>>>> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest in
>>>> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund or
>>>> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup fees
>>>> or the like, and further communication with developers in that nation (e.g.
>>>> blog about their work and community).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this
>>>> purpose, and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann,
>>>> and Doug, and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the
>>>> WG/committees I've founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of
>>>> it, just a member.  Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is
>>>> only a little bit better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent
>>>> speaker of Spanish (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid
>>>> that language barrier).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a
>>>> chair, but also including other members who would like to help with this
>>>> particular outreach effort.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Best wishes, David...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> >> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> PSF-Members mailing list
>>>> >> PSF-Members at python.org
>>>> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>>>> >> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>>>> >> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>>>> >> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > cordially,
>>>> > Anna
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> > advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
>> *MailFilterGateway has detected a possible fraud attempt from
>> "ar.linkedin.com" claiming to be*
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PSF-Members mailing list
>> PSF-Members at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebasti?n Ram?rez Magr?
>

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From sebasmagri at gmail.com  Sun May 10 14:18:45 2015
From: sebasmagri at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?U2ViYXN0acOhbiBNYWdyw60=?=)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 07:48:45 -0430
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Members] Fwd: Python Cuba working group
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Hi!

I'd like to offer my help for this initiative.

I've been doing Python advocacy in Venezuela the last 8 years. During that
time, I had the opportunity to work with a group of devs from the Cuban
university of computer science (UCI [0]) and I still have some contacts
there.

We recently established a foundation in Venezuela to help with the
promotion of Python, and we're open to participate in initiatives in Latin
America and the Caribbean.

Best Regards,

[0] http://www.uci.cu/

2015-05-09 19:34 GMT-04:30 Pablo Gabriel Celayes <pablocelayes at gmail.com>:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I'm really happy about seeing this begin to take some shape and you can
> definitely count on me to help a first Python event in Cuba become a
> reality.
>
> I have Cuban colleague that I am working with remotely, and we had the
> idea of organizing a small PyDay next year when I visit him ( that will be
> around a year from now).
>
> In the meantime, some other cuban developers have started their own plans
> to develop a local community, I have already contacted some of them and
> offered help:
>
> https://humanos.uci.cu/2015/04/convocatoriacomunidad-python-cuba/
> https://twitter.com/pythoncuba
> https://twitter.com/COsielRV
>
> If you want we can have a hangout or chat one of these days to define some
> lines of action to start with.
>
> Thanks David once again for turning this into a serious thing ;)
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>
>> That's wonderful, Roberto.  Let me make you Chair of the committee, and
>> keep myself as Vice-Chair (but not co-chair).  I'll add you permissions to
>> the mailing list.
>>
>> Thank you so much, David....
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:36 AM, Roberto Rosario <
>> roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the reaching out David and thanks Anna for the
>>> recommendation. I've been trying to make a PyCon happen in Latin American
>>> since 2013 (first effort was PyCon Caribe in Puerto Rico), so as organizer
>>> of the Python Latino initiative (pythonlatino.com) I'm thrilled the PSF
>>> has decided to create a working group to devote the energy and resources to
>>> make this happen. Being fully bilingual (born and raised in Puerto Rico) I
>>> put myself at the disposition of the PSF as chair, vice chair, co-chair or
>>> any other role it thinks I can be more useful in the working group. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2015 11:03 PM, "David Mertz" <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I'd love to have your help Roberto... maybe as chair even!
>>> >
>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > From: Anna Ravenscroft <annaraven at gmail.com>
>>> > Date: Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [PSF-Members] Python Cuba working group
>>> > To: David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>
>>> > Cc: PSF Members List <psf-members at python.org>, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
>>> mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com>, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
>>> pablocelayes at gmail.com>, Douglas Napoleone <doug.napoleone at gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I recommend Roberto Rosario as a member. He's in Puerto Rico, working
>>> specifically on the development of Python Latin America, including Cuba.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I'd very much like to form a new working group to do outreach
>>> specifically to Cuban Pythonistas.  After the tongue-in-cheek April Fool's
>>> joke of the official PyCon being held there in two years--which is
>>> unfortunately unlikely to actually happen, but maybe it should; why
>>> not?!--Mary Ann and I received good positive feedback from a few Cuban
>>> programmers who chuckled at the pos (only wishing it were true, naturally),
>>> and I understand that Doug Napoleone and some other folks also heard from
>>> local Cuban Pythonistas.
>>> >>
>>> >> While I have tried to promote diversity in a general way as chair of
>>> Outreach & Education, and in other ways too, I have a special interest in
>>> making connections with Cuban developers, perhaps helping the PSF fund or
>>> otherwise assist some conference there, or at very least some meetup fees
>>> or the like, and further communication with developers in that nation (e.g.
>>> blog about their work and community).
>>> >>
>>> >> So I'd very much like to have a new PSF working group for this
>>> purpose, and I'd like to serve on it.  I also especially invite Mary Ann,
>>> and Doug, and Pablo, to join.  However, unlike with most of the
>>> WG/committees I've founded and worked on, I think I should not be chair of
>>> it, just a member.  Sadly, my Spanish is barely existent, and Mary Ann's is
>>> only a little bit better, and I think whoever chairs it should be a fluent
>>> speaker of Spanish (perhaps themselves Cuban, but at least able to avoid
>>> that language barrier).
>>> >>
>>> >> In other words, this is a call for volunteers, starting with a chair,
>>> but also including other members who would like to help with this
>>> particular outreach effort.
>>> >>
>>> >> Best wishes, David...
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> >> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> >> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> >> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> >> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> PSF-Members mailing list
>>> >> PSF-Members at python.org
>>> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
>>> >> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
>>> >> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
>>> >> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > cordially,
>>> > Anna
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> > from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> > uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> > advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> > to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>
> _______________________________________________
> PSF-Members mailing list
> PSF-Members at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-members
> PSF home page (http://www.python.org/psf/)
> PSF membership FAQ (http://www.python.org/psf/membership/)
> PSF members' wiki (http://wiki.python.org/psf/)
>



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From roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com  Mon May 11 01:05:47 2015
From: roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com (Roberto Rosario)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 19:05:47 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] Cuba Python User Group organizer
Message-ID: <CAJxbt+gCBxH1XqGP5m6hwS-9TYjnq_aOeS8EvDDdDjdYk=t+ZA@mail.gmail.com>

I've managed to contact Carlos Osiel Rojas Velazquez who made the call to
unify the Cuban Python developers and created the @pythoncuba twitter
account. I've extended Carlos an invitation to join the mailing list.
Hopefully we will soon have a direct Cuban contact to get things on track.
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From mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com  Mon May 11 01:53:24 2015
From: mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com (Mary Ann Sushinsky)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 16:53:24 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Cuba Python User Group organizer
In-Reply-To: <CAJxbt+gCBxH1XqGP5m6hwS-9TYjnq_aOeS8EvDDdDjdYk=t+ZA@mail.gmail.com>
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Wonderful!
On May 10, 2015 4:30 PM, "Roberto Rosario" <
roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've managed to contact Carlos Osiel Rojas Velazquez who made the call to
> unify the Cuban Python developers and created the @pythoncuba twitter
> account. I've extended Carlos an invitation to join the mailing list.
> Hopefully we will soon have a direct Cuban contact to get things on track.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
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From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Mon May 11 03:14:43 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 22:14:43 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] Cuba Python User Group organizer
In-Reply-To: <CAOPk9+3h0OH8Oyded=RKTUPKJf=K7AY4E3vnBPtoeyKzxwm5EQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJxbt+gCBxH1XqGP5m6hwS-9TYjnq_aOeS8EvDDdDjdYk=t+ZA@mail.gmail.com>
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Excellent! :D

We can also invite my colleague Alejandro Zamora Fonseca (on copy) to join
the conversation.

He is a Cuban Python dev working with me since a year ago on different Data
Science projects.

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Mary Ann Sushinsky <
mary.ann.sushinsky at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wonderful!
> On May 10, 2015 4:30 PM, "Roberto Rosario" <
> roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've managed to contact Carlos Osiel Rojas Velazquez who made the call to
>> unify the Cuban Python developers and created the @pythoncuba twitter
>> account. I've extended Carlos an invitation to join the mailing list.
>> Hopefully we will soon have a direct Cuban contact to get things on track.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Python-cuba mailing list
>> Python-cuba at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>


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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Mon May 11 21:52:15 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:52:15 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Now that browsers are looking for us...
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3Th655R8nA5AYp7Ri3LDC=h69Vh_AhkDV1hs7u46xeG-w@mail.gmail.com>

When I search on keywords to find our Python.org working group, I get other
hits of course, like:

http://www.as-coa.org/cuba-working-group

It pays to stay aware of the neighborhood, in Search Engine world.

Kirby
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From ewa at python.org  Tue May 12 04:08:02 2015
From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska)
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 19:08:02 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAEbHw4b7QVAK4O9XMTaV9p8Qx_63wEzZkLMrP+nMeyRGRQR24w@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks, David. I will add this to the next board agenda, which currently is
TBD.



On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:19 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Oh, sorry, didn't mean to forget Pablo Gabriel Celayes in there.
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:20 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Board,
>>
>> I would like to have "Python in Cuba" recognized as a working group of
>> the PSF.  I have obtained the mailing list python-cuba, that is CC'd here.
>>
>> Roberto Rosario has agreed to serve as Chair of this group, and I have
>> agree to be Vice-Chair (which seems more appropriate that co-chair, since
>> my Spanish is extremely minimal, at best).
>>
>> Members will be Luciano Ramalho, Kirby Urner, Mary Ann Sushinsky, and
>> Pedro Urra, subject to modification by the Chair.
>>
>> At this time, I/we don't have any specific budget request or anything
>> like that.  In principle, in the future, we might want to request PSF
>> funding towards some conference, user group, association, bringing in
>> speakers from elsewhere, or the like.  But it's exploratory enough that I
>> have no idea how much or when such requests might occur.
>>
>> Yours, David Mertz...
>>
>> --
>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>
> _______________________________________________
> PSF-Board mailing list
> PSF-Board at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>
>


-- 
Best regards,

Ewa
Event Coordinator
Python Software Foundation
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Tue May 12 20:59:41 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 11:59:41 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Members] Fwd: Python Cuba working group
In-Reply-To: <CALxg4FU_A5K3b-_kyCSUYX_g=UnMLBdvwjgzuYk_Y6u+9NAK3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEbHw4bJ=ViK4FMnPbD2mBQaHkaN4kcExp=ncDNmM1gvs4AGKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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> BTW, the Brazilian PyCon is called PythonBrasil (one word). There's a
> story behind the name switch: one of our first conferences was in a
> small city, and the local media was really excited about the
> conference. So on the local paper and radio station there was a lot of
> buzz about the "Pycon" language conference coming to town, how the
> "Pycon" language was used in major companies like Google, and so on.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luciano
>
>
Interesting story. **

I know Henrique Bastos from Brasil.  He's visited Portland lots.  And Tati.

Anyway, given our Monty Python heritage and Monty Python's Flying Circus,
I think any word that gives the flavor of "circus" or "carnival" is what we
might want, in any vernacular.

PyCirco?

Does that work at all?  Same in Spanish and Portuguese.

PyCircus in English or PyCarnival.  PyCon is more business sounding
though, not suggesting any changes there.

The etymology of the English / Amerish word "geek" is connected:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=geek

So it all fits, in other words.  :-D

Hi Facundo, I've been in some of your talks.

Kirby


https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0327/

** Switching this back to Python Cuba group.  psf-members is so secretive,
not sure I trust it.
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From luciano at ramalho.org  Tue May 12 21:17:34 2015
From: luciano at ramalho.org (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 16:17:34 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Members] Fwd: Python Cuba working group
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3R6Arpm7YJqSFzE4yKfRS1gaCc=jK9nefkCWAJTrJ2Y5A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEbHw4bJ=ViK4FMnPbD2mBQaHkaN4kcExp=ncDNmM1gvs4AGKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALxg4FUv8saQKK8WN5UFamU31V2qRDeWA3sq5BETMiH0FK+S6g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:59 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> BTW, the Brazilian PyCon is called PythonBrasil (one word). There's a
>> story behind the name switch: one of our first conferences was in a
>> small city, and the local media was really excited about the
>> conference. So on the local paper and radio station there was a lot of
>> buzz about the "Pycon" language conference coming to town, how the
>> "Pycon" language was used in major companies like Google, and so on.

> I know Henrique Bastos from Brasil.  He's visited Portland lots.  And Tati.

Yes, we are all friends. Henrique will couch surf in my place later
this month. Tati is working in the UK now.

> Anyway, given our Monty Python heritage and Monty Python's Flying Circus,
> I think any word that gives the flavor of "circus" or "carnival" is what we
> might want, in any vernacular.
>
> PyCirco?

:-)

> Does that work at all?  Same in Spanish and Portuguese.

In Brazilian Portuguese the word "circo" does mean circus, but is most
often used with negative connotation, implying a disorganized place or
event.

> PyCircus in English or PyCarnival.  PyCon is more business sounding
> though, not suggesting any changes there.

Sometimes we think about going back to PyCon Brasil, but now people
are very used to PythonBrasil, so the community will probably stick
with that.

> Hi Facundo, I've been in some of your talks.
>
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0327/

Yes, Decimal is great. I've never been to one of Facundo's talk in
person, but I've watched some, and I learned a lot from his and
Gustavo Niemeyer's contribution to the Python Cookbook, 2 ed.

> ** Switching this back to Python Cuba group.  psf-members is so secretive,
> not sure I trust it.

;-)

Cheers,

Luciano


-- 
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg

From ewa at python.org  Tue May 12 23:27:08 2015
From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska)
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 14:27:08 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAEbHw4aZDQErAXa6_HvxmHAJ2e-te7xz-eMDxwrhV_2yc6pNqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEbHw4aZDQErAXa6_HvxmHAJ2e-te7xz-eMDxwrhV_2yc6pNqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADx+GQN-sUVzXdc6WUaxZOveNCjnokcRXWa3u=GTF2pS=LtKSw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David,

In the meantime, can you work with the team to create a charter for your
workgroup? Here is an example for charter:
https://wiki.python.org/psf/Example%20PSF%20Workgroup%20Charter.

Thanks,

Ewa


On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:20 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Hi Board,
>
> I would like to have "Python in Cuba" recognized as a working group of the
> PSF.  I have obtained the mailing list python-cuba, that is CC'd here.
>
> Roberto Rosario has agreed to serve as Chair of this group, and I have
> agree to be Vice-Chair (which seems more appropriate that co-chair, since
> my Spanish is extremely minimal, at best).
>
> Members will be Luciano Ramalho, Kirby Urner, Mary Ann Sushinsky, and
> Pedro Urra, subject to modification by the Chair.
>
> At this time, I/we don't have any specific budget request or anything like
> that.  In principle, in the future, we might want to request PSF funding
> towards some conference, user group, association, bringing in speakers from
> elsewhere, or the like.  But it's exploratory enough that I have no idea
> how much or when such requests might occur.
>
> Yours, David Mertz...
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>
> _______________________________________________
> PSF-Board mailing list
> PSF-Board at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>
>


-- 
Best regards,

Ewa
Event Coordinator
Python Software Foundation
Cell: 415-319-5237
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From roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com  Thu May 14 03:06:47 2015
From: roberto.rosario.gonzalez at gmail.com (Roberto Rosario)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:06:47 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] Python Cuba organizer
Message-ID: <CAJxbt+jKH-xRAVRNXPLfZT5bTD3j4gsVBZ-ATHvGLsEMadcYrg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everybody,

I'm glad to announce that Carlos Osiel (osiel8809 at gmail.com
<https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-cuba/osiel8809--at--gmail.com>)
organizer of Python Cuba (https://twitter.com/pythoncuba) has just joined
the list. He is at the forefront of PyCon Cuba as well as creating the
Python Cuba community. I've asked Carlos to outline what he needs from us
so that we may better help the new community being former in parallel to
PyCon Cuba.
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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Thu May 14 04:53:20 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 19:53:20 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CADx+GQN-sUVzXdc6WUaxZOveNCjnokcRXWa3u=GTF2pS=LtKSw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEbHw4aZDQErAXa6_HvxmHAJ2e-te7xz-eMDxwrhV_2yc6pNqA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAEbHw4Yt=CfZc-+=S4+BAWm3_VO63v+05M0X2otx9F7fYSNBJA@mail.gmail.com>

Would members of the python-cuba working group please help to complete the
charter for the PSF:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19INDHbhg94zKgpeE1Y_VD3AIDXoPiaivvVAgurwYOWw/edit?usp=sharing

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa at python.org> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> In the meantime, can you work with the team to create a charter for your
> workgroup? Here is an example for charter:
> https://wiki.python.org/psf/Example%20PSF%20Workgroup%20Charter.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ewa
>
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:20 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Board,
>>
>> I would like to have "Python in Cuba" recognized as a working group of
>> the PSF.  I have obtained the mailing list python-cuba, that is CC'd here.
>>
>> Roberto Rosario has agreed to serve as Chair of this group, and I have
>> agree to be Vice-Chair (which seems more appropriate that co-chair, since
>> my Spanish is extremely minimal, at best).
>>
>> Members will be Luciano Ramalho, Kirby Urner, Mary Ann Sushinsky, and
>> Pedro Urra, subject to modification by the Chair.
>>
>> At this time, I/we don't have any specific budget request or anything
>> like that.  In principle, in the future, we might want to request PSF
>> funding towards some conference, user group, association, bringing in
>> speakers from elsewhere, or the like.  But it's exploratory enough that I
>> have no idea how much or when such requests might occur.
>>
>> Yours, David Mertz...
>>
>> --
>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PSF-Board mailing list
>> PSF-Board at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ewa
> Event Coordinator
> Python Software Foundation
> Cell: 415-319-5237
>



-- 
Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
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From david.mertz at gmail.com  Thu May 14 04:52:24 2015
From: david.mertz at gmail.com (David Mertz (via Google Docs))
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 02:52:24 +0000
Subject: [Python-cuba] Python Cuba Working Group - Invitation to edit
Message-ID: <20cf30334641367ff6051601d1b2@google.com>

I've shared an item with you:

Python Cuba Working Group
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19INDHbhg94zKgpeE1Y_VD3AIDXoPiaivvVAgurwYOWw/edit?usp=sharing&invite=CP_DqvgE

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online. To open this item, just click  
the link above.
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu May 14 05:10:46 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:10:46 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAEbHw4Yt=CfZc-+=S4+BAWm3_VO63v+05M0X2otx9F7fYSNBJA@mail.gmail.com>
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Here's my first shot.  Invite adding more, yet keeping it simple so we
don't get hung up on this simple step.
Purpose & Common Goals

To help connect Pythonistas in Cuba with the PSF in terms of providing
resources and support to User Groups and Events, such as Pycons or PyDays
in Cuba.

Active Time

The workgroup will consider disbanding after a few Python-related events in
Cuba occur smoothly, with PSF participation and support.  Our job will be
done then.

Core Values & Internal Governance

The group will abide by the guidelines of the PSF when it comes to advising
others as to its stipulations regarding use of trademarks the PSF works to
protect.

Rules & Decision Making Procedures

The working group may draw up memoranda of intent conveying plans to
provide support which may require PSF Board approval.  We will move forward
by consensus punctuated by periods of brainstorming and free-wheeling
debate.

Communication Plan

The working group takes the form of a mail-man listserv within Python.org.
It has a public archive.  One joins by approval of the moderator.

List of Participants/Who we are

David Mertz is the moderator.  Other members of the group are currently:
....  One does not need to be a member of the PSF, voting or otherwise, in
order to join the working group.  We may seek to invite guest subscribers
to share expert advice and perspectives.

Support Requirements Simply a mail-man listserv in the Python.org domain
with a public archive and a public listing as a Working Group.


==

*WG vs SIG?*

I am curious what charter is required simply for a listserv, such as
i18n at python.org -- what is the difference between a SIG and a Working Group
I wonder.

Part of the reason I ask is there's been some talk of a psf-community to
allow public engagement in our electronic voting (e-voting) experiments,
something the PSF is engaged in of intrinsic interest to voters everywhere.

I was thinking in terms of evote-sig or psf-elections-sig more as a
listserv than as a working group and need to learn more about the
difference.


Kirby
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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Thu May 14 05:23:50 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:23:50 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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Looks good to me. Could you or it in the shared doc? I want to give final
approval to Roberto. But it's easier to collaborate on changes via the
shared doc then on email back and forth.
On May 13, 2015 8:11 PM, "kirby urner" <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's my first shot.  Invite adding more, yet keeping it simple so we
> don't get hung up on this simple step.
> Purpose & Common Goals
>
> To help connect Pythonistas in Cuba with the PSF in terms of providing
> resources and support to User Groups and Events, such as Pycons or PyDays
> in Cuba.
>
> Active Time
>
> The workgroup will consider disbanding after a few Python-related events
> in Cuba occur smoothly, with PSF participation and support.  Our job will
> be done then.
>
> Core Values & Internal Governance
>
> The group will abide by the guidelines of the PSF when it comes to
> advising others as to its stipulations regarding use of trademarks the PSF
> works to protect.
>
> Rules & Decision Making Procedures
>
> The working group may draw up memoranda of intent conveying plans to
> provide support which may require PSF Board approval.  We will move forward
> by consensus punctuated by periods of brainstorming and free-wheeling
> debate.
>
> Communication Plan
>
> The working group takes the form of a mail-man listserv within
> Python.org.  It has a public archive.  One joins by approval of the
> moderator.
>
> List of Participants/Who we are
>
> David Mertz is the moderator.  Other members of the group are currently:
> ....  One does not need to be a member of the PSF, voting or otherwise, in
> order to join the working group.  We may seek to invite guest subscribers
> to share expert advice and perspectives.
>
> Support Requirements Simply a mail-man listserv in the Python.org domain
> with a public archive and a public listing as a Working Group.
>
>
> ==
>
> *WG vs SIG?*
>
> I am curious what charter is required simply for a listserv, such as
> i18n at python.org -- what is the difference between a SIG and a Working
> Group I wonder.
>
> Part of the reason I ask is there's been some talk of a psf-community to
> allow public engagement in our electronic voting (e-voting) experiments,
> something the PSF is engaged in of intrinsic interest to voters everywhere.
>
> I was thinking in terms of evote-sig or psf-elections-sig more as a
> listserv than as a working group and need to learn more about the
> difference.
>
>
> Kirby
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu May 14 05:33:24 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:33:24 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAEbHw4ag0+sRTRKqS8Kb9MLHaBpy_BQCgFd9USjpnPbCTUYXTw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:23 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Looks good to me. Could you or it in the shared doc? I want to give final
> approval to Roberto. But it's easier to collaborate on changes via the
> shared doc then on email back and forth.
>

If Roberto cuts and pastes this plaintext he'll have something skeletal to
start with at least.

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-cuba/2015-May/000029.html

I haven't put in in DropBox as yet given it's not a fancy format document.
Glad you liked it!

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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Thu May 14 05:36:45 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:36:45 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3Qk98s67-8yjndJvxM_nHa3vB5pTB-XmqgKdc7YBr-6Dw@mail.gmail.com>
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Basically, a working group might spend PSF money, but a SIG probably won't.
Is like that option if it becomes relevant.
On May 13, 2015 8:33 PM, "kirby urner" <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:23 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>
>> Looks good to me. Could you or it in the shared doc? I want to give final
>> approval to Roberto. But it's easier to collaborate on changes via the
>> shared doc then on email back and forth.
>>
>
> If Roberto cuts and pastes this plaintext he'll have something skeletal to
> start with at least.
>
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-cuba/2015-May/000029.html
>
> I haven't put in in DropBox as yet given it's not a fancy format
> document.  Glad you liked it!
>
> Kirby
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu May 14 05:51:12 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 20:51:12 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:36 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Basically, a working group might spend PSF money, but a SIG probably
> won't. Is like that option if it becomes relevant.
>


That makes sense.

On edu-sig, where I've been the longest (in terms of Python.org sigs) we
plan about eduSummit and maybe EduPycon, things like that, i.e. they have
the flavor of planning and taking action.

But the sig itself is not the fiduciary authority when it comes to putting
those plans into action.  Various subscribers work with other entities to
make the various wheels turn.  Naomi Cedar and Jeff Elkner are among those
who've taken an active role

https://twitter.com/naomiceder
https://twitter.com/jelkner

If you think our WG might have budget e.g. might get voting member sponsors
to fund travel in exchange for advertising their support of Python / PSF in
Cuba, then some words to that effect might go a long way down the road.
Don't let my overly miserly ways get us off on the wrong foot in that
regard.

Saying we just need a mail-list might be too self-denying as well.

Like I might want to hop a PSF jet (we have a fleet of GulfStreams right?)
and bill it to the WG at some point. I bet I'm not the only one.  ;-D

As long as we stay accountable and do more with less ("lets keep it
dymaxion" as some of my friends would say).

Good thing we have the Decimal class to help us keep track of all the $$!.

Kirby
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu May 14 18:35:53 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:35:53 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:51 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:36 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>
>> Basically, a working group might spend PSF money, but a SIG probably
>> won't. Is like that option if it becomes relevant.
>>
>
>
> That makes sense.
>
> On edu-sig, where I've been the longest (in terms of Python.org sigs) we
> plan about eduSummit and maybe EduPycon, things like that, i.e. they have
> the flavor of planning and taking action.
>
> But the sig itself is not the fiduciary authority when it comes to putting
> those plans into action.  Various subscribers work with other entities to
> make the various wheels turn.  Naomi Cedar and Jeff Elkner are among those
> who've taken an active role
>
> https://twitter.com/naomiceder
> https://twitter.com/jelkner
>


I don't want to make it sound like sigs are that easy to get though.  On
another list we were told to ask a particular email address nicely and we
might get our sig, but I knew from previous experience with diversity-sig
and psf-community (which both exist) that some of our moderators are
hostile to the whole idea of posting to their sigs.  Getting a sig
approved, in other words, means nothing if the moderator keeps the door
locked.

I'm glad this WG is getting some support.  I think that has a lot to do
with Mertz already being a PSF heavy-weight.

I'd think from a Cuban point a view a first question would be "what would
be in it for us to work with PSF?" i.e. the Python language is free and
open source and no one needs our permission to download it and teach about
it, have meetups or whatever.

So why bother with PSF at all?  Good FAQ question.

After all, we might conceivably be a front for something else, given how
nonprofits are used cynically as astroturf by politicos.  Takes due
diligence to research any NGO, to establish its bona fides.  When needs
that level of transparency consistent with getting tax breaks, but look at
churches and cults, how transparent are they?  Exactly.

For my part, I reassure even my own Quakers, a subsect of unprogrammed
Friends (Amigos) in the Pacific Northwest, always suspicious and paranoid
by training, that my involvement with PSF is ethical, despite all the
secrecy around elections.

We're up front about using e-voter technology at the Python.org web site,
on public pages, so this idea of "secrecy" is possibly over-done.  Just dig
and ye shall find.

We're aware of the need to keep walking our talk when it comes to GNU, GPL
etc. (even though the Python license itself is less strict). One can't be
going around proclaiming the virtues of "openness" while completely
concealing one's own inner workings.  That just doesn't work.

On the other hand, no one is saying a company needs to spill its guts in
public, just a 501(c)(3) is deliberately designed / organized to illuminate
its own interior (out of pride in our workmanship if nothing else, and as
the best way to attract event sponsors (fund accounting, a special kind of
accounting used with non-profits, means funders / sponsors clearly see
where their donations went)).

Kirby
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu May 14 18:46:47 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:46:47 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:35 AM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:51 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:36 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>
>>> Basically, a working group might spend PSF money, but a SIG probably
>>> won't. Is like that option if it becomes relevant.
>>>
>> I don't want to make it sound like sigs are that easy to get though.  On
> another list we were told to ask a particular email address nicely and we
> might get our sig, but I knew from previous experience with diversity-sig
> and psf-community (which both exist)
>



Sorry, it's psf-volunteers that already exists, pardon the confusion.

The moderator there insinuated our election-related posts are all spam in
his view.

Kirby
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu May 14 21:50:50 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:50:50 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] More about PSF benefits when organizing
	Python-related events
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3QBH8ZAAy9a5ckfo0juy+h5jycHwUrNvJ2QqH1dRtCavQ@mail.gmail.com>

The fact that PSF is a hub for networking
around Python-related merchandise is
another benefit of having PSF involved in
your event planning, your PyDay or
whatever event.

Yes, a lot of swag is of somewhat dubious
value and we've all been skeptical of the
swag bag contents we've received at whatever
geek conference (many of us go to several
in the average year).

A Gift Shop lets you pick and choose and
show your own personality.  That's an
advantage over swag bags:  you choose.

I would imagine that Cubans are highly
skeptical of US practices around branding,
given the extreme ulgification that occurs
with the spread of fast food franchise
aesthetics.

Havana is a global tourist destination in part
thanks to relative the *absence* of Coca-Cola
billboards and McDonalds advertising every-
where.  Any Python conference should remain
sensitive to this distrust of rampant
commercialism at the expense of human values
and basic aesthetics.  The PSF is not a
creature of the fast food industry.

So far be it from me to push a lot of bags
of dubious swag -- perhaps a PSF gift card
pre charged, choose your own selection?

I do want the PSF to continue cultivating
supply channels for a tasteful selection of
branded goods that allows Pythonistas to
show their pride in being members of this
tribe.  We stand for something.  Our PR
has already been like that.  Idealism is not
out of place.

Example:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/3398043925/in/album-72157616066135225/
(note idealistic "save the world" stickers)

Purchasing a beer mug or clothing article
with the Python logo on it is not "selling out".

Everyone understands about sports teams
and showing loyalty.  The PSF is all about
helping fans of Python show their loyalty.

As a nonprofit, the proceeds from our direct
sales would go to scholarships and travel for
Pythonistas.  PSF helps with PyLadies and
other upstart meetups.  Buying our brand
shows your approval of our inclusiveness
and commitment to openness and freedom
in the coding world.

Kirby
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Fri May 22 04:08:18 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 19:08:18 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] sharing Python with copyleft materials /
	indigenous schools
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3R4J64dxUyvt28eCZOe6sfiKW-iG=Cf-mfaWgg8fJoEMA@mail.gmail.com>

This article was posted by one of my co-workers to an internal company
discussion list.  It describes our market pretty well.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-07/coding-classes-attract-college-grads-who-want-better-jobs

I'm guessing South / Central America are no different from North America in
finding that programming skills are (A) marketable (in demand) and (B)
acquirable on-line.

I've talked with Tati from Brazil quite a bit about what Python in
Portuguese from a distance learning source might look like.  This was a
theme of our school at OSCON last year:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/sets/72157645488715488

I'm guessing Cuba is well able to come up with indigenous schools that
answer this growing need i.e. I'm not suggesting off-shore solutions or
out-sourcing in any way, although one might argue that increasingly
geography is not what matters (where the racks are in the cloud is
immaterial).

On the contrary, I would imagine a way to be useful would be to suggest
ways to share Python locally and effectively, and to also learn from many
in-place examples.  What distance learning solutions are emerging in Cuba
and neighboring regions?

As a North American (Pacific side, almost in Canada) I'm very aware that
we're still working to figure it out -- how to use distance learning
technology most effective.

I just was at a whole conference on this topic (USDLA in St. Louis MO) and
learned about some of the bold experiments different US states are trying.
They're not all the same!

Creative Commons and copyleft in general is a way to save on curriculum
materials (the opening keynote was on this).  For example, I've put Python
materials on Wikieducator, a Wiki for teachers willing to open source their
materials.

Example:  Here's a Creative Commons Wiki page I picked up from a previous
editor and fleshed out a lot more.

http://wikieducator.org/PYTHON_TUTORIALS

A Cuban Wiki with lots of Pythonistas contributing might be something
Python.org could either encourage and/or at least link to.

Kirby Urner
Python Mentor
O'Reilly School of Technology
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From ewa at python.org  Sat May 23 00:03:32 2015
From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 15:03:32 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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Hi Python Cuba WG,

I am checking on the status of the charter. Once it is complete, please
send me the final file so I can share it with the board and add it to our
wiki.  At that point the PSF board will vote on acknowledging the
workgroup. At minimal, we need to know how you will vote on items, how you
will communicate, and who is part of the group.

Thanks,

Ewa

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:53 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:

> Would members of the python-cuba working group please help to complete the
> charter for the PSF:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19INDHbhg94zKgpeE1Y_VD3AIDXoPiaivvVAgurwYOWw/edit?usp=sharing
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa at python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> In the meantime, can you work with the team to create a charter for your
>> workgroup? Here is an example for charter:
>> https://wiki.python.org/psf/Example%20PSF%20Workgroup%20Charter.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ewa
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:20 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Board,
>>>
>>> I would like to have "Python in Cuba" recognized as a working group of
>>> the PSF.  I have obtained the mailing list python-cuba, that is CC'd here.
>>>
>>> Roberto Rosario has agreed to serve as Chair of this group, and I have
>>> agree to be Vice-Chair (which seems more appropriate that co-chair, since
>>> my Spanish is extremely minimal, at best).
>>>
>>> Members will be Luciano Ramalho, Kirby Urner, Mary Ann Sushinsky, and
>>> Pedro Urra, subject to modification by the Chair.
>>>
>>> At this time, I/we don't have any specific budget request or anything
>>> like that.  In principle, in the future, we might want to request PSF
>>> funding towards some conference, user group, association, bringing in
>>> speakers from elsewhere, or the like.  But it's exploratory enough that I
>>> have no idea how much or when such requests might occur.
>>>
>>> Yours, David Mertz...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ewa
>> Event Coordinator
>> Python Software Foundation
>> Cell: 415-319-5237
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>



-- 
Best regards,

Ewa
Event Coordinator
Python Software Foundation
Cell: 415-319-5237
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sat May 23 00:32:59 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 15:32:59 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Python Cuba WG,
>
> I am checking on the status of the charter. Once it is complete, please
> send me the final file so I can share it with the board and add it to our
> wiki.  At that point the PSF board will vote on acknowledging the
> workgroup. At minimal, we need to know how you will vote on items, how you
> will communicate, and who is part of the group.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ewa
>


In my initial rough draft just to get the ball rolling, I assumed a
consensus model, with "memoranda of intent" to the Board, should we need
them to give a hand.

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-cuba/2015-May/000029.html

Like if we wanna do a Pycon at University of Havana next Fall, we could
write a memo requesting Board blessings with a concession of merchandise
for the scholarship / travel fund.  Something like that?

I wonder if being a WG implies voting is required.

In my community service role as Tech Clerk for NPYM.org, I participate in a
350+ year old NGO that does not use voting, but does make decisions, albeit
sometimes slowly.  NPYM.org provides board and corporation members to yet
another 501(c)(3) that likewise doesn't vote, yet will be 100 years old in
2017 (AFSC.org).

I'm too unversed in PSF Bylaws to know if there's room for consensus in
workgroups.

Plus we may indeed want to do some e-voting given Mertz is our moderator.

Not saying it's up to me, just raising the general question about whether
voting is mandatory.

Anyway, if the WG thing is too uphill, we could always fall back to SIG
status right?

I think a listing on the community page as Pycon-Cuba-SIG would be just as
apropos in terms of getting the job done.

Kirby
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From idertator at gmail.com  Sat May 23 13:01:33 2015
From: idertator at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Roberto_Antonio_Becerra_Garc=C3=ADa?=)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 13:01:33 +0200
Subject: [Python-cuba] Hello Python Cuba Workgroup
Message-ID: <8967342E-EEDC-4972-A09A-15D4ED54D0A5@gmail.com>

My name is Roberto Becerra, i?m a professor in the Faculty of Informatics and Mathematics at University of Holgu?n (a province at northeast of Cuba). I have more than five years of experience with the Python programming language developing biomedical signal processing applications, using the python scientific stack (NumPy, SciPy, Matplotlib, Pandas, Scikit-Learn). In previous years i taught courses of PyQt and Django to undergraduate students in my faculty, trying to expand the use of Python in my region (with some degree of success i guess).

I know several good pythonistas near me, so i want to offer my help in the organization of the group in my country and specifically in my region.

My best regards for all,

Roberto

From luciano at ramalho.org  Sat May 23 13:16:24 2015
From: luciano at ramalho.org (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 08:16:24 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] Hello Python Cuba Workgroup
In-Reply-To: <8967342E-EEDC-4972-A09A-15D4ED54D0A5@gmail.com>
References: <8967342E-EEDC-4972-A09A-15D4ED54D0A5@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALxg4FWOmUG1Z413+8+Mif5Q+iHy66fprLzs4NceMduuBf0AVg@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome, Roberto!

Congratulations on your work with Python and spreading it.

Slowly but surely this python-cuba working group is taking shape!

?Salud!

Luciano

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Roberto Antonio Becerra Garc?a
<idertator at gmail.com> wrote:
> My name is Roberto Becerra, i?m a professor in the Faculty of Informatics and Mathematics at University of Holgu?n (a province at northeast of Cuba). I have more than five years of experience with the Python programming language developing biomedical signal processing applications, using the python scientific stack (NumPy, SciPy, Matplotlib, Pandas, Scikit-Learn). In previous years i taught courses of PyQt and Django to undergraduate students in my faculty, trying to expand the use of Python in my region (with some degree of success i guess).
>
> I know several good pythonistas near me, so i want to offer my help in the organization of the group in my country and specifically in my region.
>
> My best regards for all,
>
> Roberto
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba



-- 
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg

From alfonso.ali at gmail.com  Sat May 23 14:36:12 2015
From: alfonso.ali at gmail.com (Alfonso Ali)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 08:36:12 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
Message-ID: <CANeoTMfkTaY_xsFzbdpbLKbLzvxcnf7aKiOo06fT-JD+f50YmA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

My name is Alfonso Ali, i'm a system administrator of the national health
network (Infomed). I've been working, teaching and developing with python
for more than 10 years.

I have strong ties to the local free software community and several
pythonistas, so, i can help spreading the news about this group.

I'll like to know about the objectives for this group. Is it a space for
everyone working with python in Cuba to debate and share, a coordinating
group for python related activities in Cuba or something else?

In any case i'll like to know what should we do next, bring all the people
in Cuba interested in python to this group? coordinate some activity? etc.

Best regards,
  Ali
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sat May 23 18:20:41 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:20:41 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
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On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:36 AM, Alfonso Ali <alfonso.ali at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Alfonso Ali, i'm a system administrator of the national health
> network (Infomed). I've been working, teaching and developing with python
> for more than 10 years.
>
> I have strong ties to the local free software community and several
> pythonistas, so, i can help spreading the news about this group.
>
> I'll like to know about the objectives for this group. Is it a space for
> everyone working with python in Cuba to debate and share, a coordinating
> group for python related activities in Cuba or something else?
>

Hello Ali --

Thank you for joining this listserv!

Kirby here, also long time Python user, teaching it full time for O'Reilly
School of Technology, part of the O'Reilly publishing company that produces
the Open Source Convention (OSCON) every year.

>From that event, and Pycon, I know many Pythonistas, plus I attend and
helped organize (many years ago by now) the Portland User Group.

Some recent history:  on April 1, which I call Misinformation Day but which
is really known as April Fools Day, the Python Software Foundation blogged
its annual / ritual / traditional "joke post".  This year, the joke was how
the next Pycon after Portland in 2016/ 2017 would be in Cuba.

As often happens, people forget its April 1 and fall for the joke, then
remember.  In this case, many were happily surprised by the news and
disappointed to realize the post was a joke.  They really wanted a Pycon in
Cuba, sounded fun and cool.

Then board member David Mertz, who was a co-author of the post, really
wanted to encourage thinking in that direction, i.e. he was only half
joking. His intent was to spark more discussion and outreach, which in fact
has now occurred.

A lot of us who realized we truly hoped for more Python events in Cuba
(which some of us might be able to attend) banded together in the aftermath
of that post and because we want a Pycon in Cuba for real.

What's important to realize is that a "Pycon" (short for Python Conference
or Python Convention) may happen in parallel with other Pycons i.e. at any
given time we could have ten or more Pycons happening around the world.

India and Australia have Pycons and so on, ditto Ukraine and many more.

So having one in Cuba is not contingent on getting in line behind a long
list of eager hosts.  It's not like the Olympics in that sense.

Cuba does not have to wait for Portland to have its two.

A Pycon in Cuba next September or whatever would not "conflict" with other
Pycons.

But then we may not have consensus that we even want to use the word
"Pycon".  That caused some confusion in Brazil.  PyCuba or a PyDay in Cuba
have both been suggested.  In the US we have PyOhio.

Then of course there's EuroPython, which predates Pycon is sounds more
geographically tied.

The Python Software Foundation (PSF), a nonprofit based in the US state of
Delaware, produces one of the biggest Pycons annually as apart of its job
description.  It produced the Pycon in Montreal Canada this year and is
producing the next two in Portland, my home town.

It also works to spread knowledge of Python and to provide ways for
Pythonistas to show off their tribal membership (as Pythonistas) in the
form of "swag" (merchandise) with the Python logo on it.

So it's logical to involve the PSF in the planning for Python events in
Cuba, even though Python itself freely propagates with or without PSF
"permission" (the Python.org Python distros set a standard).

PSF manages the Python.org domain (where we are now, in this emerging
Workgroup, like a Special Interest Group but with more PSF resources behind
it, potentially).

My role with PSF is simply that I post to its listservs within Python.org
quite a bit (edu-sig) in particular and I am a voting member meaning I'm
one of those who e-votes on who gets to be on the PSF board.

This level of participation is sufficient to allow me to follow a lot of
what goes on, but I am not now nor have I ever been a PSF board member
myself.

I hope all this answers some of your questions.  I think it's useful review
for all of us and I am expecting others will have perspectives to add.

I don't think this working group actually needs to be very large as we're
simply hoping to catalyze events on the ground, which in turn could involve
many more people.

If Pycons in Cuba (or PyCuba Days) become a normal phenomenon, this group
would no longer need to exist, as our main goal would have been
accomplished.  Pythonistas in Cuba have access to all same listserv and
wiki infrastructure within Python.org as Pythonistas anywhere so we're able
to work together through multiple channels already I would suggest.

Kirby Urner




> In any case i'll like to know what should we do next, bring all the people
> in Cuba interested in python to this group? coordinate some activity? etc.
>
> Best regards,
>   Ali
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>
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From pedro.urra at infomed.sld.cu  Sat May 23 15:55:49 2015
From: pedro.urra at infomed.sld.cu (Pedro Urra)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:55:49 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
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Message-ID: <011a01d09560$36c9ac90$a45d05b0$@infomed.sld.cu>

Roberto y Ali,

 

UN abrazo y bienvenidos!   Hay un esfuerzo por articular a la gente que en Cuba viene trabajando con Python o que quiere incorporarse a este esfuerzo con el esfuerzo internacional de la PSF. Creo que en la medida que m?s cubanos se incorporen la cosa puede avanzar. 

 

Una de las primeras cosas que hay que hacer es comprender  la forma en que opera la PSF (Python Software Foundation | Python.org) y los espacios de cooperaci?n que pueden aprovecharse para desarrollar estas relaciones.

 

Posiblemente en un futuro no lejano se puedan comenzar a desarrollar actividades en Cuba y claro est?  incrementar los v?nculos con esa comunidad y lograr  la participaci?n de cubanos en los espacios de la PSF.

 

Luciano es un amigo brasile?o que ha estado ayudando y que ha impulsado la idea junto a otros miembros de esta comunidad.

 

Mucha gente de Cuba se comunica perfectamente en ingl?s pero no debi?ramos excluir posibilidad de socializar esto en espa?ol. 

 

Abrazo

 

pedro

 

 

De: Python-cuba [mailto:python-cuba-bounces+urrape=gmail.com at python.org] En nombre de Alfonso Ali
Enviado el: s?bado, 23 de mayo de 2015 8:36
Para: python-cuba at python.org
Asunto: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps

 

Hello everyone,

 

My name is Alfonso Ali, i'm a system administrator of the national health network (Infomed). I've been working, teaching and developing with python for more than 10 years.

 

I have strong ties to the local free software community and several pythonistas, so, i can help spreading the news about this group.

 

I'll like to know about the objectives for this group. Is it a space for everyone working with python in Cuba to debate and share, a coordinating group for python related activities in Cuba or something else?

 

In any case i'll like to know what should we do next, bring all the people in Cuba interested in python to this group? coordinate some activity? etc.

 

Best regards,

  Ali

 

 



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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sat May 23 18:36:25 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:36:25 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CADx+GQO8EuoT5cqvXZVF5AZNqcY3zWwWktZa6QMnGm2H0iN97w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEbHw4aZDQErAXa6_HvxmHAJ2e-te7xz-eMDxwrhV_2yc6pNqA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAEbHw4Y1Q16aKzeQvkur37VEs_35ma890woG8x5528O1R+5uew@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ewa,

I have updated
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19INDHbhg94zKgpeE1Y_VD3AIDXoPiaivvVAgurwYOWw/edit?usp=sharing
to contain a basic charter for the working group, that I hope will suffice
for Board approval of it.  This is predominantly the wording provided by
Kirby, with just a few changes by me.

I encourage other members of the mailing-list/working group to make further
improvements, consistent with the general spirit of the document as it
exists now.

Yours, David Mertz
Vice-Chair, Python-Cuba PSF working group

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa at python.org> wrote:

> Hi Python Cuba WG,
>
> I am checking on the status of the charter. Once it is complete, please
> send me the final file so I can share it with the board and add it to our
> wiki.  At that point the PSF board will vote on acknowledging the
> workgroup. At minimal, we need to know how you will vote on items, how you
> will communicate, and who is part of the group.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ewa
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:53 PM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>
>> Would members of the python-cuba working group please help to complete
>> the charter for the PSF:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19INDHbhg94zKgpeE1Y_VD3AIDXoPiaivvVAgurwYOWw/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa at python.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> In the meantime, can you work with the team to create a charter for your
>>> workgroup? Here is an example for charter:
>>> https://wiki.python.org/psf/Example%20PSF%20Workgroup%20Charter.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ewa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:20 AM, David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Board,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to have "Python in Cuba" recognized as a working group of
>>>> the PSF.  I have obtained the mailing list python-cuba, that is CC'd here.
>>>>
>>>> Roberto Rosario has agreed to serve as Chair of this group, and I have
>>>> agree to be Vice-Chair (which seems more appropriate that co-chair, since
>>>> my Spanish is extremely minimal, at best).
>>>>
>>>> Members will be Luciano Ramalho, Kirby Urner, Mary Ann Sushinsky, and
>>>> Pedro Urra, subject to modification by the Chair.
>>>>
>>>> At this time, I/we don't have any specific budget request or anything
>>>> like that.  In principle, in the future, we might want to request PSF
>>>> funding towards some conference, user group, association, bringing in
>>>> speakers from elsewhere, or the like.  But it's exploratory enough that I
>>>> have no idea how much or when such requests might occur.
>>>>
>>>> Yours, David Mertz...
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>>>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>>>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>>>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>>>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PSF-Board mailing list
>>>> PSF-Board at python.org
>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-board
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Ewa
>>> Event Coordinator
>>> Python Software Foundation
>>> Cell: 415-319-5237
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
>> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
>> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
>> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
>> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ewa
> Event Coordinator
> Python Software Foundation
> Cell: 415-319-5237
>



-- 
Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sat May 23 18:38:15 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:38:15 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
In-Reply-To: <011a01d09560$36c9ac90$a45d05b0$@infomed.sld.cu>
References: <CANeoTMfkTaY_xsFzbdpbLKbLzvxcnf7aKiOo06fT-JD+f50YmA@mail.gmail.com>
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>
>
>
> Mucha gente de Cuba se comunica perfectamente en ingl?s pero no debi?ramos
> excluir posibilidad de socializar esto en espa?ol.
>
>
Si!

Espa?ol es el idioma m?s hablado en el mundo.

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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sat May 23 18:40:57 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:40:57 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
In-Reply-To: <011a01d09560$36c9ac90$a45d05b0$@infomed.sld.cu>
References: <CANeoTMfkTaY_xsFzbdpbLKbLzvxcnf7aKiOo06fT-JD+f50YmA@mail.gmail.com>
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Although my Spanish is very poor (and I'll probably rely on machine
translation for all but the simplest comments), the committee chair,
Roberto Rosario is a native Spanish speaker.  I encourage those more
comfortable writing in Spanish to do so, since much/most of the planning
will obviously have to be in the predominant language of Cuba itself.  Us
English speakers will just try to follow along.

Yours, David Mertz
Vice-Chair, Python-Cuba working group

P.S. In terms of what the PSF might do, here are a few things:

(a) Locate and send speakers to fledgling conferences
(b) Give grants to such activities
(c) Provide a mailing list or other communication tools useful for
organizing
(d) ... tell us what else we can do to help ...

2015-05-23 6:55 GMT-07:00 Pedro Urra <pedro.urra at infomed.sld.cu>:

> Roberto y Ali,
>
>
>
> UN abrazo y bienvenidos!   Hay un esfuerzo por articular a la gente que en
> Cuba viene trabajando con Python o que quiere incorporarse a este esfuerzo
> con el esfuerzo internacional de la PSF. Creo que en la medida que m?s
> cubanos se incorporen la cosa puede avanzar.
>
>
>
> Una de las primeras cosas que hay que hacer es comprender  la forma en que
> opera la PSF (Python Software Foundation | Python.org) y los espacios de
> cooperaci?n que pueden aprovecharse para desarrollar estas relaciones.
>
>
>
> Posiblemente en un futuro no lejano se puedan comenzar a desarrollar
> actividades en Cuba y claro est?  incrementar los v?nculos con esa
> comunidad y lograr  la participaci?n de cubanos en los espacios de la PSF.
>
>
>
> Luciano es un amigo brasile?o que ha estado ayudando y que ha impulsado la
> idea junto a otros miembros de esta comunidad.
>
>
>
> Mucha gente de Cuba se comunica perfectamente en ingl?s pero no debi?ramos
> excluir posibilidad de socializar esto en espa?ol.
>
>
>
> Abrazo
>
>
>
> pedro
>
>
>
>
>
> *De:* Python-cuba [mailto:python-cuba-bounces+urrape=gmail.com at python.org]
> *En nombre de *Alfonso Ali
> *Enviado el:* s?bado, 23 de mayo de 2015 8:36
> *Para:* python-cuba at python.org
> *Asunto:* [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> My name is Alfonso Ali, i'm a system administrator of the national health
> network (Infomed). I've been working, teaching and developing with python
> for more than 10 years.
>
>
>
> I have strong ties to the local free software community and several
> pythonistas, so, i can help spreading the news about this group.
>
>
>
> I'll like to know about the objectives for this group. Is it a space for
> everyone working with python in Cuba to debate and share, a coordinating
> group for python related activities in Cuba or something else?
>
>
>
> In any case i'll like to know what should we do next, bring all the people
> in Cuba interested in python to this group? coordinate some activity? etc.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>   Ali
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>


-- 
Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
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From mertz at gnosis.cx  Sat May 23 18:44:18 2015
From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 09:44:18 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3SfR7AkTg3cBUxfTqnXx3icxR67JEfJcPMPyC3dqYBuMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANeoTMfkTaY_xsFzbdpbLKbLzvxcnf7aKiOo06fT-JD+f50YmA@mail.gmail.com>
 <011a01d09560$36c9ac90$a45d05b0$@infomed.sld.cu>
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Message-ID: <CAEbHw4bM1K2y-xR2NQ24suz2rZzYJPq09h_uB3WjFKmemJuTfA@mail.gmail.com>

no del todo, pero cerca:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lenguas_por_n%C3%BAmero_de_hablantes_nativos

2015-05-23 9:38 GMT-07:00 kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com>:

>
>>
>> Mucha gente de Cuba se comunica perfectamente en ingl?s pero no
>> debi?ramos excluir posibilidad de socializar esto en espa?ol.
>>
>>
> Si!
>
> Espa?ol es el idioma m?s hablado en el mundo.
>
> Kirby
>
>
>
>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>


-- 
Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sat May 23 19:53:53 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 10:53:53 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Apropos of how a PyEvent launches itself (Example:
	PyTexas)
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3RdwfA8xci7VpFLyLnwiBteh6CmospUXj1fo=0QzNUDpQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm copying this off ChiPy, the Chicago User Group list, where I'm a lurker
and sometime contributor of longstanding.  -- Kirby


From: Glen Zangirolami <glenbot at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM
Subject: [python-14] PyTexas 2015 Call For Proposals
To: python-14-announce at meetup.com


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From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Sun May 24 14:27:33 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 09:27:33 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] Introducing myself and looking for next steps
In-Reply-To: <CAEbHw4bM1K2y-xR2NQ24suz2rZzYJPq09h_uB3WjFKmemJuTfA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANeoTMfkTaY_xsFzbdpbLKbLzvxcnf7aKiOo06fT-JD+f50YmA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hola a todos, bienvenidos Roberto, Ali y todos los que se han sumado en las
?ltimas semanas.

Me alegra mucho ver el inter?s que esto est? despertando, y como est?
sirviendo para conectar muchos esfuerzos que ya se ven?an realizando de
antes. Una idea m?s para sumar es la posibilidad de hacer un futuro evento
de programaci?n cient?fica, viendo que mucho del trabajo que se est?
realizando en Python es en un contexto acad?mico.

Hace unos d?as concluy? la tercera conferencia Sci Py latinoamericana [1],
se prevee realizar la de 2016 en Florian?polis Brasil, y podr?amos empezar
a pensar en tener una conferencia Sci Py LA en Cuba para 2017.

Los invitamos tambi?n a sumarse a la lista de correo de SciPy LA.[2]

Saludos!

[1] http://conf.scipyla.org/
[2] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/scipyla


2015-05-23 13:44 GMT-03:00 David Mertz <mertz at gnosis.cx>:

> no del todo, pero cerca:
>
>
> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Lenguas_por_n%C3%BAmero_de_hablantes_nativos
>
> 2015-05-23 9:38 GMT-07:00 kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>>
>>> Mucha gente de Cuba se comunica perfectamente en ingl?s pero no
>>> debi?ramos excluir posibilidad de socializar esto en espa?ol.
>>>
>>>
>> Si!
>>
>> Espa?ol es el idioma m?s hablado en el mundo.
>>
>> Kirby
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Python-cuba mailing list
>> Python-cuba at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Keeping medicines from the bloodstreams of the sick; food
> from the bellies of the hungry; books from the hands of the
> uneducated; technology from the underdeveloped; and putting
> advocates of freedom in prisons.  Intellectual property is
> to the 21st century what the slave trade was to the 16th.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>


-- 

*?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
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From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Sun May 24 14:43:48 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 09:43:48 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAEbHw4Y1Q16aKzeQvkur37VEs_35ma890woG8x5528O1R+5uew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEbHw4aZDQErAXa6_HvxmHAJ2e-te7xz-eMDxwrhV_2yc6pNqA@mail.gmail.com>
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I updated the doc with some of what David wrote on a different thread, a
little expansion of the goals and some minor fixes.

I'll try to expand it further this week.

Cheers, have a great Sunday!

*?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
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From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Sun May 24 15:25:30 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 10:25:30 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAMuNu10Ko+jqN9=wZNWC7sEburEXACK+s4ugkKaUEN1fG7iROA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAEbHw4aZDQErAXa6_HvxmHAJ2e-te7xz-eMDxwrhV_2yc6pNqA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAEbHw4Y1Q16aKzeQvkur37VEs_35ma890woG8x5528O1R+5uew@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMuNu10QefJV9F602gHJ1P+G=xQ2h8Q+g2do85vqCmsJdL0mrg@mail.gmail.com>

A minor typo someone from Pyhon Argentina detected on the mailing-list
welcome page:

where it says:
*... group for promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*

it should be:
*... group for promoting relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*

or:
*... group to promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:

> I updated the doc with some of what David wrote on a different thread, a
> little expansion of the goals and some minor fixes.
>
> I'll try to expand it further this week.
>
> Cheers, have a great Sunday!
>
> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>



-- 

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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sun May 24 15:57:14 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 06:57:14 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
In-Reply-To: <CAMuNu10QefJV9F602gHJ1P+G=xQ2h8Q+g2do85vqCmsJdL0mrg@mail.gmail.com>
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Might want to say "group for promoting relationships with *and among* Cuban
Pythonistas"?

Cuban Pythonistas have and/or are developing their own cohesiveness as a
group and python-cuba is a resource for that group in terms of getting some
PyEvents off the ground in Cuba.

It's not necessarily just about international diplomacy i.e. non-Cubans
forming relationships with Cubans and vice versa.

Put another way, there is no "them" when it comes to Python users, only
"we" (as in "we Pythonistas"), but then we all partially overlap with other
subcultures (e.g. Bay Area Silicon Valley geeks are a subculture --
different than mine).

Lets not imagine for a minute that the State of Delaware is somehow "the
hub" and everyone else is a spoke in that wheel.

Python.org is anywhere / everywhere vis-a-vis planet Earth geography.  It's
not .us, or specifically tied to a nation except by loose coupling.  If
push comes to shove, I'd say Python is Dutch (from Holland).  But that's
just my perspective.

Kirby



On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:

> A minor typo someone from Pyhon Argentina detected on the mailing-list
> welcome page:
>
> where it says:
> *... group for promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>
> it should be:
> *... group for promoting relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>
> or:
> *... group to promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
> pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I updated the doc with some of what David wrote on a different thread, a
>> little expansion of the goals and some minor fixes.
>>
>> I'll try to expand it further this week.
>>
>> Cheers, have a great Sunday!
>>
>> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>>
>
>
>
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From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Sun May 24 16:06:17 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 11:06:17 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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I completely agree, actually what I added on the doc was also going in that
direction.

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 10:57 AM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Might want to say "group for promoting relationships with *and among*
> Cuban Pythonistas"?
>
> Cuban Pythonistas have and/or are developing their own cohesiveness as a
> group and python-cuba is a resource for that group in terms of getting some
> PyEvents off the ground in Cuba.
>
> It's not necessarily just about international diplomacy i.e. non-Cubans
> forming relationships with Cubans and vice versa.
>
> Put another way, there is no "them" when it comes to Python users, only
> "we" (as in "we Pythonistas"), but then we all partially overlap with other
> subcultures (e.g. Bay Area Silicon Valley geeks are a subculture --
> different than mine).
>
> Lets not imagine for a minute that the State of Delaware is somehow "the
> hub" and everyone else is a spoke in that wheel.
>
> Python.org is anywhere / everywhere vis-a-vis planet Earth geography.
> It's not .us, or specifically tied to a nation except by loose coupling.
> If push comes to shove, I'd say Python is Dutch (from Holland).  But that's
> just my perspective.
>
> Kirby
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
> pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A minor typo someone from Pyhon Argentina detected on the mailing-list
>> welcome page:
>>
>> where it says:
>> *... group for promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>>
>> it should be:
>> *... group for promoting relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>>
>> or:
>> *... group to promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>>
>> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
>> pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I updated the doc with some of what David wrote on a different thread, a
>>> little expansion of the goals and some minor fixes.
>>>
>>> I'll try to expand it further this week.
>>>
>>> Cheers, have a great Sunday!
>>>
>>> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>>> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


-- 

*?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
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From osiel8809 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 03:02:02 2015
From: osiel8809 at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Osiel_Rojas_Vel=E1zquez?=)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 21:02:02 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] Python Cuba Community
Message-ID: <CAGKu3+DYG3rRV4iTyHqDwSjMoR-97GDK4Yk9Uy+GNrxiBFx7fg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everybody. My name is Carlos Osiel, i am graduated in the University
of Informatics Sciencie in Havana, where I currently work as a developer
and system administrator. I worked in python for many years contibuting in
community projects and profesional projects.

On april 15 in a blog post (
https://humanos.uci.cu/2015/04/convocatoriacomunidad-python-cuba/) a
announcement for create a Community in Cuba that gather lovers of python
language in this country. This idea emerged for the necessity of exchange
knowledge into python developers in this country and colaborate to create
systems to aid the country's technological development.

And we took the first steps to formalize the community and we are working
to make our first event at the end of the first quarter of 2016. The
community is composed of a total of 72 members from various institutions in
the country and regions and we plan to keep growing.

We also have our official twitter account for the community (
https://twitter.com/pythoncuba) to keep informated our members and
followers.

I have also been in contact with Roberto Rosario, member of Latin Python
Community to help us with preparations for the event we wants to make in
2016. Seek help to prepare the event and support from the PSF if
possible. Who do I contact? Could help us?

Regards
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Mon May 25 05:20:49 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 20:20:49 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] Python Cuba Community
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Hi Carlos --

I really like the Python Cuba logo as displayed on that Twitter account.
@psf_snake now following.

Looks like it's all coming together.  You've come to the right place for
getting PSF support I think.

Kirby
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From luciano at ramalho.org  Mon May 25 16:17:28 2015
From: luciano at ramalho.org (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:17:28 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] sharing Python with copyleft materials /
	indigenous schools
In-Reply-To: <CAPJgG3R4J64dxUyvt28eCZOe6sfiKW-iG=Cf-mfaWgg8fJoEMA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALxg4FWE-M8r8U=ZgTA8b6M2txjD_BHFRdEK0f2srjqko+EjGA@mail.gmail.com>

In Brazil we've translated the Python tutorial do Portuguese, and I
have some tips about how to do it if there is an effort to do the same
in Spanish (actually, a Spanish translation may already exist, I did
not look).

Having at least part of the docs translated is *extremely* helpful.
Most people in the Americas speak only their mother tongue. Those who
also know a second language are a small minority.

Cheers,

Luciano


On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:08 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This article was posted by one of my co-workers to an internal company
> discussion list.  It describes our market pretty well.
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-07/coding-classes-attract-college-grads-who-want-better-jobs
>
> I'm guessing South / Central America are no different from North America in
> finding that programming skills are (A) marketable (in demand) and (B)
> acquirable on-line.
>
> I've talked with Tati from Brazil quite a bit about what Python in
> Portuguese from a distance learning source might look like.  This was a
> theme of our school at OSCON last year:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/sets/72157645488715488
>
> I'm guessing Cuba is well able to come up with indigenous schools that
> answer this growing need i.e. I'm not suggesting off-shore solutions or
> out-sourcing in any way, although one might argue that increasingly
> geography is not what matters (where the racks are in the cloud is
> immaterial).
>
> On the contrary, I would imagine a way to be useful would be to suggest ways
> to share Python locally and effectively, and to also learn from many
> in-place examples.  What distance learning solutions are emerging in Cuba
> and neighboring regions?
>
> As a North American (Pacific side, almost in Canada) I'm very aware that
> we're still working to figure it out -- how to use distance learning
> technology most effective.
>
> I just was at a whole conference on this topic (USDLA in St. Louis MO) and
> learned about some of the bold experiments different US states are trying.
> They're not all the same!
>
> Creative Commons and copyleft in general is a way to save on curriculum
> materials (the opening keynote was on this).  For example, I've put Python
> materials on Wikieducator, a Wiki for teachers willing to open source their
> materials.
>
> Example:  Here's a Creative Commons Wiki page I picked up from a previous
> editor and fleshed out a lot more.
>
> http://wikieducator.org/PYTHON_TUTORIALS
>
> A Cuban Wiki with lots of Pythonistas contributing might be something
> Python.org could either encourage and/or at least link to.
>
> Kirby Urner
> Python Mentor
> O'Reilly School of Technology
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>



-- 
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg

From luciano at ramalho.org  Mon May 25 16:24:59 2015
From: luciano at ramalho.org (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:24:59 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] sharing Python with copyleft materials /
	indigenous schools
In-Reply-To: <CALxg4FWE-M8r8U=ZgTA8b6M2txjD_BHFRdEK0f2srjqko+EjGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPJgG3R4J64dxUyvt28eCZOe6sfiKW-iG=Cf-mfaWgg8fJoEMA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CALxg4FVQmKu8emDNjNRnjgfpQUhWgAWvXS06jjXnVWPpfn-pRg@mail.gmail.com>

Besides Python materials themselves, there are excellent books
licensed under CC licenses that would allow a translation with no need
for prior authorization. The best is Dive into Python 3. There are
also Allen Downey's several books.

Cheers,

Luciano


On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Luciano Ramalho <luciano at ramalho.org> wrote:
> In Brazil we've translated the Python tutorial do Portuguese, and I
> have some tips about how to do it if there is an effort to do the same
> in Spanish (actually, a Spanish translation may already exist, I did
> not look).
>
> Having at least part of the docs translated is *extremely* helpful.
> Most people in the Americas speak only their mother tongue. Those who
> also know a second language are a small minority.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luciano
>
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:08 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This article was posted by one of my co-workers to an internal company
>> discussion list.  It describes our market pretty well.
>>
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-07/coding-classes-attract-college-grads-who-want-better-jobs
>>
>> I'm guessing South / Central America are no different from North America in
>> finding that programming skills are (A) marketable (in demand) and (B)
>> acquirable on-line.
>>
>> I've talked with Tati from Brazil quite a bit about what Python in
>> Portuguese from a distance learning source might look like.  This was a
>> theme of our school at OSCON last year:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/sets/72157645488715488
>>
>> I'm guessing Cuba is well able to come up with indigenous schools that
>> answer this growing need i.e. I'm not suggesting off-shore solutions or
>> out-sourcing in any way, although one might argue that increasingly
>> geography is not what matters (where the racks are in the cloud is
>> immaterial).
>>
>> On the contrary, I would imagine a way to be useful would be to suggest ways
>> to share Python locally and effectively, and to also learn from many
>> in-place examples.  What distance learning solutions are emerging in Cuba
>> and neighboring regions?
>>
>> As a North American (Pacific side, almost in Canada) I'm very aware that
>> we're still working to figure it out -- how to use distance learning
>> technology most effective.
>>
>> I just was at a whole conference on this topic (USDLA in St. Louis MO) and
>> learned about some of the bold experiments different US states are trying.
>> They're not all the same!
>>
>> Creative Commons and copyleft in general is a way to save on curriculum
>> materials (the opening keynote was on this).  For example, I've put Python
>> materials on Wikieducator, a Wiki for teachers willing to open source their
>> materials.
>>
>> Example:  Here's a Creative Commons Wiki page I picked up from a previous
>> editor and fleshed out a lot more.
>>
>> http://wikieducator.org/PYTHON_TUTORIALS
>>
>> A Cuban Wiki with lots of Pythonistas contributing might be something
>> Python.org could either encourage and/or at least link to.
>>
>> Kirby Urner
>> Python Mentor
>> O'Reilly School of Technology
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Python-cuba mailing list
>> Python-cuba at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Ramalho
> |  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
> |     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
> |  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
> |  Twitter: @ramalhoorg



-- 
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg

From pablocelayes at gmail.com  Mon May 25 16:31:44 2015
From: pablocelayes at gmail.com (Pablo Gabriel Celayes)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:31:44 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] sharing Python with copyleft materials /
	indigenous schools
In-Reply-To: <CALxg4FWE-M8r8U=ZgTA8b6M2txjD_BHFRdEK0f2srjqko+EjGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPJgG3R4J64dxUyvt28eCZOe6sfiKW-iG=Cf-mfaWgg8fJoEMA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMuNu13wk7S29VKRv23KzJ-jLWDaQ=5FYFOmd4fWsyKWoh9O0w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Luciano Ramalho <luciano at ramalho.org>
wrote:

> In Brazil we've translated the Python tutorial do Portuguese, and I
> have some tips about how to do it if there is an effort to do the same
> in Spanish (actually, a Spanish translation may already exist, I did
> not look).
>
It exists indeed, the Python Argentina community did it some years ago:

http://docs.python.org.ar/tutorial/index.html



>
> Having at least part of the docs translated is *extremely* helpful.
> Most people in the Americas speak only their mother tongue. Those who
> also know a second language are a small minority.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luciano
>
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:08 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This article was posted by one of my co-workers to an internal company
> > discussion list.  It describes our market pretty well.
> >
> >
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-07/coding-classes-attract-college-grads-who-want-better-jobs
> >
> > I'm guessing South / Central America are no different from North America
> in
> > finding that programming skills are (A) marketable (in demand) and (B)
> > acquirable on-line.
> >
> > I've talked with Tati from Brazil quite a bit about what Python in
> > Portuguese from a distance learning source might look like.  This was a
> > theme of our school at OSCON last year:
> >
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/sets/72157645488715488
> >
> > I'm guessing Cuba is well able to come up with indigenous schools that
> > answer this growing need i.e. I'm not suggesting off-shore solutions or
> > out-sourcing in any way, although one might argue that increasingly
> > geography is not what matters (where the racks are in the cloud is
> > immaterial).
> >
> > On the contrary, I would imagine a way to be useful would be to suggest
> ways
> > to share Python locally and effectively, and to also learn from many
> > in-place examples.  What distance learning solutions are emerging in Cuba
> > and neighboring regions?
> >
> > As a North American (Pacific side, almost in Canada) I'm very aware that
> > we're still working to figure it out -- how to use distance learning
> > technology most effective.
> >
> > I just was at a whole conference on this topic (USDLA in St. Louis MO)
> and
> > learned about some of the bold experiments different US states are
> trying.
> > They're not all the same!
> >
> > Creative Commons and copyleft in general is a way to save on curriculum
> > materials (the opening keynote was on this).  For example, I've put
> Python
> > materials on Wikieducator, a Wiki for teachers willing to open source
> their
> > materials.
> >
> > Example:  Here's a Creative Commons Wiki page I picked up from a previous
> > editor and fleshed out a lot more.
> >
> > http://wikieducator.org/PYTHON_TUTORIALS
> >
> > A Cuban Wiki with lots of Pythonistas contributing might be something
> > Python.org could either encourage and/or at least link to.
> >
> > Kirby Urner
> > Python Mentor
> > O'Reilly School of Technology
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Python-cuba mailing list
> > Python-cuba at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Ramalho
> |  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
> |     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
> |  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
> |  Twitter: @ramalhoorg
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>



-- 

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From: luciano at ramalho.org (Luciano Ramalho)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 11:35:41 -0300
Subject: [Python-cuba] sharing Python with copyleft materials /
	indigenous schools
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On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes
<pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In Brazil we've translated the Python tutorial do Portuguese, and I
>> have some tips about how to do it if there is an effort to do the same
>> in Spanish (actually, a Spanish translation may already exist, I did
>> not look).
>
> It exists indeed, the Python Argentina community did it some years ago:
>
> http://docs.python.org.ar/tutorial/index.html

Excellent! And I see you have Python 3.4 and Django 1.5. We only have
Python 2.7 and a very old Django...

Best,

Luciano

>
>
>>
>>
>> Having at least part of the docs translated is *extremely* helpful.
>> Most people in the Americas speak only their mother tongue. Those who
>> also know a second language are a small minority.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Luciano
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:08 PM, kirby urner <kirby.urner at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > This article was posted by one of my co-workers to an internal company
>> > discussion list.  It describes our market pretty well.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-07/coding-classes-attract-college-grads-who-want-better-jobs
>> >
>> > I'm guessing South / Central America are no different from North America
>> > in
>> > finding that programming skills are (A) marketable (in demand) and (B)
>> > acquirable on-line.
>> >
>> > I've talked with Tati from Brazil quite a bit about what Python in
>> > Portuguese from a distance learning source might look like.  This was a
>> > theme of our school at OSCON last year:
>> >
>> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/kirbyurner/sets/72157645488715488
>> >
>> > I'm guessing Cuba is well able to come up with indigenous schools that
>> > answer this growing need i.e. I'm not suggesting off-shore solutions or
>> > out-sourcing in any way, although one might argue that increasingly
>> > geography is not what matters (where the racks are in the cloud is
>> > immaterial).
>> >
>> > On the contrary, I would imagine a way to be useful would be to suggest
>> > ways
>> > to share Python locally and effectively, and to also learn from many
>> > in-place examples.  What distance learning solutions are emerging in
>> > Cuba
>> > and neighboring regions?
>> >
>> > As a North American (Pacific side, almost in Canada) I'm very aware that
>> > we're still working to figure it out -- how to use distance learning
>> > technology most effective.
>> >
>> > I just was at a whole conference on this topic (USDLA in St. Louis MO)
>> > and
>> > learned about some of the bold experiments different US states are
>> > trying.
>> > They're not all the same!
>> >
>> > Creative Commons and copyleft in general is a way to save on curriculum
>> > materials (the opening keynote was on this).  For example, I've put
>> > Python
>> > materials on Wikieducator, a Wiki for teachers willing to open source
>> > their
>> > materials.
>> >
>> > Example:  Here's a Creative Commons Wiki page I picked up from a
>> > previous
>> > editor and fleshed out a lot more.
>> >
>> > http://wikieducator.org/PYTHON_TUTORIALS
>> >
>> > A Cuban Wiki with lots of Pythonistas contributing might be something
>> > Python.org could either encourage and/or at least link to.
>> >
>> > Kirby Urner
>> > Python Mentor
>> > O'Reilly School of Technology
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Python-cuba mailing list
>> > Python-cuba at python.org
>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Ramalho
>> |  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
>> |     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
>> |  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
>> |  Twitter: @ramalhoorg
>> _______________________________________________
>> Python-cuba mailing list
>> Python-cuba at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> ?ll?ll? ????? ?ll?l?
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes



-- 
Luciano Ramalho
|  Author of Fluent Python (O'Reilly, 2015)
|     http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032519.do
|  Professor em: http://python.pro.br
|  Twitter: @ramalhoorg

From ewa at python.org  Tue May 26 23:58:12 2015
From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 14:58:12 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for putting together the document.

I have created a wiki page for your workgroup and also added the current
charter there:

 * Workgroup Wiki: https://wiki.python.org/psf/PythonCubaWG
 * Charter: https://wiki.python.org/psf/PythonCubaWG/Charter

Please feel free to make further edits on the wiki. The PSF's goal is to
make a new home for all of the WG wiki things on the public Python wiki.
That migration is in the process but will happen soon so it will be useful
for all if you continue to edit your WG within these wiki pages.

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:

> A minor typo someone from Pyhon Argentina detected on the mailing-list
> welcome page:
>
> where it says:
> *... group for promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>
> it should be:
> *... group for promoting relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>
> or:
> *... group to promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
> pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I updated the doc with some of what David wrote on a different thread, a
>> little expansion of the goals and some minor fixes.
>>
>> I'll try to expand it further this week.
>>
>> Cheers, have a great Sunday!
>>
>> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>



-- 
Best regards,

Ewa
Event Coordinator
Python Software Foundation
Cell: 415-319-5237
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Wed May 27 00:17:04 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 15:17:04 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] [PSF-Board] Recognition of new working group
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Cut'n paste from the wiki for any who don't have access:

Cuban Pythonistas WG Charter

Purpose & Common Goals

   1.

   To help connect Pythonistas in Cuba with the PSF in terms of providing
   resources and support to User Groups and Events, such as Pycons or PyDays
   <https://wiki.python.org/psf/PyDays> in Cuba, including but not limited
   to:
   - a. Locating and sending speakers to fledgling conferences
      - b. Giving grants to such activities
      - c. Providing a mailing list or other communication tools useful for
      organizing
   2. To provide a meeting point point for fellow pythonistas around the
   World who wish to support and cooperate with the growth of the Cuban Python
   community.

Active Time

The workgroup will consider disbanding after a few Python-related events in
Cuba occur smoothly, with PSF participation and support. Our job will be
done then.

Core Values & Internal Governance

The group will abide by the guidelines of the PSF when it comes to advising
others as to its stipulations regarding use of trademarks the PSF works to
protect.

Rules & Decision Making Procedures

The working group may draw up memoranda of intent conveying plans to
provide support which may require PSF Board approval. We will move forward
by consensus punctuated by periods of brainstorming and free-wheeling
debate.

Communication Plan

The working group takes the form of a mailman listserv within Python.org.
It has a public archive. One joins by approval of the moderator.

List of Participants/Who we are

Roberto Rosario and David Mertz are the moderators. A number of members
have joined the mailing list since its initial formation, including some
Cubans. One does not need to be a member of the PSF, voting or otherwise,
in order to join the working group. We may seek to invite guest subscribers
to share expert advice and perspectives.

Support Requirements

Simply a mail-man listserv in the Python.org domain with a public archive
and a public listing as a Working Group.
It may occur later that the working group makes grant requests to the PSF
to support some specific activity, but we do not request any pre-authorized
budget to do so on our own.



On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Ewa Jodlowska <ewa at python.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for putting together the document.
>
> I have created a wiki page for your workgroup and also added the current
> charter there:
>
>  * Workgroup Wiki: https://wiki.python.org/psf/PythonCubaWG
>  * Charter: https://wiki.python.org/psf/PythonCubaWG/Charter
>
> Please feel free to make further edits on the wiki. The PSF's goal is to
> make a new home for all of the WG wiki things on the public Python wiki.
> That migration is in the process but will happen soon so it will be useful
> for all if you continue to edit your WG within these wiki pages.
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
> pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A minor typo someone from Pyhon Argentina detected on the mailing-list
>> welcome page:
>>
>> where it says:
>> *... group for promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>>
>> it should be:
>> *... group for promoting relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>>
>> or:
>> *... group to promote relationships with Cuban Pythonistas*
>>
>> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Pablo Gabriel Celayes <
>> pablocelayes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I updated the doc with some of what David wrote on a different thread, a
>>> little expansion of the goals and some minor fixes.
>>>
>>> I'll try to expand it further this week.
>>>
>>> Cheers, have a great Sunday!
>>>
>>> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>>> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *?l**l**?l**l**?* ????? *?ll?**l?*
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/pablogabrielcelayes
>> <http://ar.linkedin.com/pub/pablo-celayes/5/535/911/es>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ewa
> Event Coordinator
> Python Software Foundation
> Cell: 415-319-5237
>
> _______________________________________________
> Python-cuba mailing list
> Python-cuba at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-cuba
>
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From ale2014.zamora at gmail.com  Wed May 27 14:52:44 2015
From: ale2014.zamora at gmail.com (Alejandro Zamora Fonseca)
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 06:52:44 -0600
Subject: [Python-cuba] Presentation
Message-ID: <CANfGzZx5jYz6u9H_BbcKvdNTTOsZn+ozsochcVhWg1u-5ya_3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, my name is Alejandro Zamora, a Cuban Computer Scientist,
graduated at "Universidad de Oriente", Santiago de Cuba and living in
Puerto Padre, Las Tunas.
I've been using Python for almost 5 years, getting huge of fun :), you
can count me for contribute to this comunity.

greetings!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/AlejandroZamoraFonseca

From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sun May 31 23:00:06 2015
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:00:06 -0700
Subject: [Python-cuba] At least "scuba" rhymes with "cuba"
Message-ID: <CAPJgG3Qps2g6u9rTR=V4Ywuf20VwX+WL-Q1nZX7OiH48URm02Q@mail.gmail.com>

This might seem off topic at first, however it relates
to PSF in that we talk a lot about our Code of Conduct,
which has a lot to do with our not coming off like jerks
in a host country and not being invited back.  Some
people will be locals, like in Vilnius that time, with the
rest of us coming from overseas.  That's a typical
EuroPython as well.

Given a large Pycon may attract geeks from faraway
places, there may be no initial agreement on some
customs and having codes is a natural consequence.

Given globalization, we all pretty much know the standard
icons used in airports and don't go barging into the
wrong restroom by mistake.  Even here though, the
practice evolves.

Switching gears now, I'm a NAUI-trained scuba diver.

My teacher was a professional diver who recovered
stuff lost overboard or took pictures of hull damage
or whatever (I was never a professional diver, only
sports, meaning < 120 feet and following Dive Tables
for sports people, to avoid any danger of bends or
other health risks -- still easy to die from stupid mistakes).

What I really absorbed as values was never to harm
the precious seascape i.e. to not go out there and make
things worse.  Taking pictures is fine, but do we really
need to be skewering parrot fish.  Probably not, right?
Don't mess with the corals.  Learn to be respectful
of a natural local environment.

So in general what I'd like, if we contemplate Pycons
anywhere where privileged geeks might take up
scuba diving as a sport, that we not be offering lightning
talk spotlights to people who "club the seals" if you
know what I mean, i.e. lets not stumble into a situation
where it looks like "we of Python" condone thoughtless
behaviors towards pristine marine environments.

Bookmark this thought for future consideration?

Obviously my memories of the Philippines color my
thinking about any PyEvents in the balmy tropics,
where beaches and fanciful fish are sometimes
encountered.

Monty Python sketch mentioned herein:

http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/basic-scuba-discussions/473027-why-arent-more-people-taking-up-scuba-diving.html

(couldn't find a Youtube version....)

Kirby
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From jackiekazil at gmail.com  Sun May 31 23:45:04 2015
From: jackiekazil at gmail.com (Jacqueline Kazil)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 17:45:04 -0400
Subject: [Python-cuba] Is there a way to access archives?
Message-ID: <CAKD0ODwVHOf0o0GC=Ea2_Eb9uVusXQ2Uf06CNQbz6P5=m0HvVg@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way to access archives, so i can see what I missed?
I didn't join this until now. Now sure how long it has been around or where
conversations are at.


-- 
Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil
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