[python-committers] PEP 462: Workflow automation for CPython

[R. David Murray]

On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:35:59 -0800, Eli Bendersky <eliben at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 6:14 AM, R. David Murray <rdmurray at bitdance.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:49:56 -0800, Eli Bendersky <eliben at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > do the latter in Python, which carries a problem we'll probably need to
> > > resolve first - how to know that the bots are green enough. That really
> > > needs human attention.
> >
> > By "that needs human attention", do you mean: dealing with the remaining
> > flaky tests, so that "stable buildbots are green" is a binary decision?
> > We strive for that now, but Nick's proposal would mean we'd have to
> > finally buckle down and complete the work.  I'm sure we'd make some new
> > flaky tests at some point, but in this future they'd become show-stoppers
> > until they were fixed.  I think this would be a good thing, overall :)
> >
> 
> Non-flakiness of bots is a holy grail few projects attain. If your bots are
> consistently green with no flakes, it just means you're not testing enough
> :-)

How does OpenStack do it, then?  I haven't actually looked at Zuul yet,
though it is on my shortlist.

--David