From kbk at shore.net Tue May 1 15:34:58 2012 From: kbk at shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 09:34:58 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - Mark Shannon Message-ID: <1335879298.18181.140661069687809.07E363D7@webmail.messagingengine.com> We received a contributor agreement for Mark Shannon by postal mail. I will forward it to our Administrator. -- KBK From patcam at python.org Tue May 1 17:32:12 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:32:12 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Allegro Group Contributor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Maria: Thank-you for submitting your CLA. Pat 2012/4/30 Maria Lysek > Hello, **** > > ** ** > > I am pleased to send you CLA which has been signed by our company in order > to give our employees free way to send their patches.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Best regards, **** > > *Maria Lysek * > > IT Strategic Projects Coordinator **** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Phone (0048)616306630**** > > Grupa Allegro Sp. z o.o.**** > > http://www.allegro.pl**** > > maria.lysek at allegro.pl**** > > ** ** > > [image: cid:image001.png at 01CAE54A.2DD8E450]**** > > Grupa Allegro Sp. z o.o. z siedzib? w Poznaniu, 60-324 Pozna?, przy ul. > Marceli?skiej 90, wpisana do rejestru przedsi?biorc?w prowadzonego przez > S?d Rejonowy Pozna? - Nowe Miasto i Wilda, Wydzia? VIII Gospodarczy > Krajowego Rejestru S?dowego pod numerem KRS 0000268796, o kapitale > zak?adowym w 33 474 500 z?, posiadaj?ca numer identyfikacji podatkowej NIP: > 5272525995.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin at v.loewis.de Tue May 1 18:01:18 2012 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 18:01:18 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Allegro Group Contributor In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA008CE.8080809@v.loewis.de> Also thanks to allegro for making such a decision as a company. It's important that employers recognize the contributions of their employees to free software. Pat, I'm not sure how we are tracking this: we need to somewhere post what company assignments we received, so that contributors can then claim that they are covered by some company assignment. Additionally, we need to track what individual contributors are covered by a company agreement. I plan to add a field for this to the bug tracker; meanwhile, please track this privately, and just add the data into the tracker as if these people had individually submitted a contributor form. Regards, Martin On 01.05.2012 17:32, Pat Campbell wrote: > Hi Maria: > > Thank-you for submitting your CLA. > > Pat > > 2012/4/30 Maria Lysek > > > Hello, ____ > > __ __ > > I am pleased to send you CLA which has been signed by our company in > order to give our employees free way to send their patches.____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > Best regards, ____ > > *Maria Lysek ____* > > IT Strategic Projects Coordinator ____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > Phone (0048)616306630____ > > Grupa Allegro Sp. z o.o.____ > > http://www.allegro.pl ____ > > maria.lysek at allegro.pl ____ > > __ __ > > cid:image001.png at 01CAE54A.2DD8E450____ > > Grupa Allegro Sp. z o.o. z siedzib? w Poznaniu, 60-324 Pozna?, przy > ul. Marceli?skiej 90, wpisana do rejestru przedsi?biorc?w > prowadzonego przez S?d Rejonowy Pozna? - Nowe Miasto i Wilda, > Wydzia? VIII Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru S?dowego pod numerem KRS > 0000268796, o kapitale zak?adowym w 33 474 500 z?, posiadaj?ca numer > identyfikacji podatkowej NIP: 5272525995.____ > > __ __ > > __ __ > > > > > -- > Pat Campbell > PSF Administrator/Secretary > patcam at python.org > > > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers From patcam at python.org Tue May 1 18:14:46 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 12:14:46 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Allegro Group Contributor In-Reply-To: <4FA008CE.8080809@v.loewis.de> References: <4FA008CE.8080809@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: Hi Martin: I was thinking the very same thing!! On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > Also thanks to allegro for making such a decision as a company. > It's important that employers recognize the contributions of > their employees to free software. > > Pat, I'm not sure how we are tracking this: we need to somewhere > post what company assignments we received, so that contributors > can then claim that they are covered by some company assignment. > Okay, but the individual company employee will need a profile on the bug tracker. Correct? Maybe, they should also include the company's name into their online profile so that the forms can be tracked. > > Additionally, we need to track what individual contributors are > covered by a company agreement. I plan to add a field for this > to the bug tracker; Great. > meanwhile, please track this privately, okay. > and > just add the data into the tracker as if these people had > individually submitted a contributor form. > I will need a "user # & name" to track them. Thanks, Pat > > Regards, > Martin > > > On 01.05.2012 17:32, Pat Campbell wrote: > >> Hi Maria: >> >> Thank-you for submitting your CLA. >> >> Pat >> >> 2012/4/30 Maria Lysek > > >> >> Hello, ____ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> I am pleased to send you CLA which has been signed by our company in >> order to give our employees free way to send their patches.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> __ __ >> >> Best regards, ____ >> >> *Maria Lysek ____* >> >> IT Strategic Projects Coordinator ____ >> >> __ __ >> >> __ __ >> >> Phone (0048)616306630____ >> >> Grupa Allegro Sp. z o.o.____ >> >> http://www.allegro.pl ____ >> >> maria.lysek at allegro.pl ____ >> >> __ __ >> >> cid:image001.png at 01CAE54A.**2DD8E450____ >> >> >> Grupa Allegro Sp. z o.o. z siedzib? w Poznaniu, 60-324 Pozna?, przy >> ul. Marceli?skiej 90, wpisana do rejestru przedsi?biorc?w >> prowadzonego przez S?d Rejonowy Pozna? - Nowe Miasto i Wilda, >> Wydzia? VIII Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru S?dowego pod numerem KRS >> 0000268796, o kapitale zak?adowym w 33 474 500 z?, posiadaj?ca numer >> identyfikacji podatkowej NIP: 5272525995.____ >> >> __ __ >> >> __ __ >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Campbell >> PSF Administrator/Secretary >> patcam at python.org >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> python-committers mailing list >> python-committers at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-**committers >> > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Wed May 2 15:27:00 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributors form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Gaurav: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement. It has been added to the PSF online bug tracker. 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URL: From patcam at python.org Wed May 2 22:42:11 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:42:11 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement form received on 3/13/2012 Message-ID: Hi Jeff: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. It has been added to the PSF online bug tracker. Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Wed May 2 22:56:32 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 16:56:32 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement form received on 3/13/2012 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You are very welcome! Pat On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:55 PM, shanka.mns at gmail.com wrote: > Thank you! > > > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > >> Hi Shashank: >> >> Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement. It has been added >> to the PSF online bug tracker. >> >> Pat >> >> -- >> Pat Campbell >> PSF Administrator/Secretary >> patcam at python.org >> > > > > -- > Shashank Bharadwaj > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Sat May 12 18:19:06 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 12:19:06 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] contribution agreement In-Reply-To: <4FAB942F.9040401@in.waw.pl> References: <4FAB942F.9040401@in.waw.pl> Message-ID: Hi Zbigniew: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to add your form to the PSF online bug tracker. In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile (on the online bug tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide the link to your "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your contributor agreement form. Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name (the way it appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to access the webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. Thanking you in advance, Pat On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek < zbyszek at in.waw.pl> wrote: > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The login webpage is "case sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. Thanking you in advance, Pat On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Zachary Ware wrote: > Hello, > > Attached is a photo of my signed contributor agreement. To guard against > illegiblity, my information is as follows: > > Contributor: Zachary Ware > Address: 277 Sedan Ln, / Republic, MO 65738 > Email: zachary.ware at gmail.com > > Initial license: Academic Free License v. 2.1 > > The previous contributions portion is included at the top of image, though > I don't know that there is anything it would really apply to. > > Please let me know if there's anything further I need to do or if I've > missed something. > > Thanks, > > Zachary Ware > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dickinsm at gmail.com Sun May 13 17:19:51 2012 From: dickinsm at gmail.com (Mark Dickinson) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:19:51 +0100 Subject: [python-committers] contribution agreement In-Reply-To: References: <4FAB942F.9040401@in.waw.pl> Message-ID: I believe that http://bugs.python.org/user10329 is the correct user webpage for Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek. Mark On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > Hi Zbigniew: > > Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to > add your > form to the PSF online bug tracker. > > In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile (on > the online bug > tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide > the link to your > "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your > contributor > agreement form. > > Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name (the > way it appears > on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to access > the webpage based > on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case > sensitive", therefore, the > data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. > > Thanking you in advance, > Pat > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > > -- > Pat Campbell > PSF Administrator/Secretary > patcam at python.org > > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > From solipsis at pitrou.net Sun May 13 20:50:29 2012 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 20:50:29 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Commit rights for Hynek Schlawack Message-ID: <1336935029.3373.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hello, Hynek Schlawack has now contributed several patches (11 of which appear to have been committed) and has generally been pleasant to work with, being both responsive to comments and able to produce quality patches. I therefore propose to give him commit rights. What do you think? Regards Antoine. From brian at python.org Sun May 13 21:06:05 2012 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 14:06:05 -0500 Subject: [python-committers] Commit rights for Hynek Schlawack In-Reply-To: <1336935029.3373.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1336935029.3373.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Hello, > > Hynek Schlawack has now contributed several patches (11 of which appear > to have been committed) and has generally been pleasant to work with, > being both responsive to comments and able to produce quality patches. I > therefore propose to give him commit rights. What do you think? Sounds good to me. +1 From jnoller at gmail.com Sun May 13 21:13:56 2012 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 15:13:56 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Commit rights for Hynek Schlawack In-Reply-To: References: <1336935029.3373.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <2D0D33EF-E91C-4AEC-A055-F1CD0C4721CB@gmail.com> +1 On May 13, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Brian Curtin wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Hynek Schlawack has now contributed several patches (11 of which appear >> to have been committed) and has generally been pleasant to work with, >> being both responsive to comments and able to produce quality patches. I >> therefore propose to give him commit rights. What do you think? > > Sounds good to me. +1 > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers From nad at acm.org Sun May 13 21:16:26 2012 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 12:16:26 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Commit rights for Hynek Schlawack References: <1336935029.3373.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: In article <1336935029.3373.1.camel at localhost.localdomain>, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Hynek Schlawack has now contributed several patches (11 of which appear > to have been committed) and has generally been pleasant to work with, > being both responsive to comments and able to produce quality patches. I > therefore propose to give him commit rights. What do you think? +1 -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From petri at digip.org Mon May 14 08:06:45 2012 From: petri at digip.org (Petri Lehtinen) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 09:06:45 +0300 Subject: [python-committers] Commit rights for Hynek Schlawack In-Reply-To: <1336935029.3373.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1336935029.3373.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20120514060645.GA14322@p16> Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Hello, > > Hynek Schlawack has now contributed several patches (11 of which appear > to have been committed) and has generally been pleasant to work with, > being both responsive to comments and able to produce quality patches. I > therefore propose to give him commit rights. What do you think? +1 From ncoghlan at gmail.com Mon May 14 13:23:41 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:23:41 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban Message-ID: I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> types.build_class in Python change). Regards, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From patcam at python.org Mon May 14 23:01:28 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:01:28 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] contribution agreement In-Reply-To: References: <4FAB942F.9040401@in.waw.pl> Message-ID: Thanks for your input Mark. Pat On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Mark Dickinson wrote: > I believe that > > http://bugs.python.org/user10329 > > is the correct user webpage for Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek. > > Mark > > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Hi Zbigniew: > > > > Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to > > add your > > form to the PSF online bug tracker. > > > > In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile > (on > > the online bug > > tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide > > the link to your > > "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your > > contributor > > agreement form. > > > > Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name > (the > > way it appears > > on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to access > > the webpage based > > on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case > > sensitive", therefore, the > > data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. > > > > Thanking you in advance, > > Pat > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pat Campbell > > PSF Administrator/Secretary > > patcam at python.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > python-committers mailing list > > python-committers at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Mon May 14 23:00:26 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 17:00:26 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] contribution agreement In-Reply-To: <4FAEB594.7070303@in.waw.pl> References: <4FAB942F.9040401@in.waw.pl> <4FAEB594.7070303@in.waw.pl> Message-ID: Hi Zbigniew: Thank-you for submitting your user number information. I was able to add your contributor agreement form to the online bug tracker. Pat On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek < zbyszek at in.waw.pl> wrote: > On 05/12/2012 06:19 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Hi Zbigniew: > > > > Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like > > to add your > > form to the PSF online bug tracker. > > > > In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile > > (on the online bug > > tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please > > provide the link to your > > "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your > > contributor > > agreement form. > Hi Pat, > > bugs.python.org/user10329 > > Thank you, > Zbyszek J?drzejewski-Szmek > > > Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name > > (the way it appears > > on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to > > access the webpage based > > on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case > > sensitive", therefore, the > > data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. > > > > Thanking you in advance, > > Pat > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Zbigniew J?drzejewski-Szmek > > > wrote: > > > > Pat Campbell > > PSF Administrator/Secretary > > patcam at python.org > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue May 15 12:54:22 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 06:54:22 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Daniel: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Daniel Urban wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sending my signed contributor form (see attached file). > > My "official" name: Urb?n D?niel > (I don't know if that matters, but "Urb?n" is my family name, and > "D?niel" is my given name.) > Bugtracker username: durban (http://bugs.python.org/user11409) > > > Thanks, > Daniel > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue May 15 13:18:03 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 07:18:03 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Yuval Greenfield In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Yuval: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to add your form to the PSF online bug tracker. In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile (on the online bug tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide the link to your "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your contributor agreement form. Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name (the way it appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to access the webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. Thanking you in advance, Pat On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Yuval Greenfield wrote: > Contributor Agreement attached > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope that's OK, but > let me know if I should fill in the other form. > > (If someone wants to clear up the discrepancy, the license FAQ links > to http://www.python.org/psf/contrib-form.html , which doesn't ask for > a username, while the 'Contributor forms' page links to > http://www.python.org/psf/contrib/contrib-form/ , which does). > > Thanks, > Thomas > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue May 15 15:52:38 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:52:38 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Yuval Greenfield In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Yuval: Your contributor agreement form has now been added to the online bug tracker. Thanks, Pat On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Yuval Greenfield wrote: > http://bugs.python.org/user11078 > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > >> Hi Yuval: >> >> >> Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to >> add your >> form to the PSF online bug tracker. >> >> In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile >> (on the online bug >> tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide >> the link to >> >> your "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving >> your contributor >> agreement form. >> >> Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name >> (the way it >> >> appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able >> to access the >> >> webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage >> is "case >> >> sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site >> must be exact. >> >> Thanking you in advance, >> Pat >> >> >> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Yuval Greenfield wrote: >> >>> Contributor Agreement attached >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Campbell >> PSF Administrator/Secretary >> patcam at python.org >> > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue May 15 16:54:35 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 10:54:35 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor agreement In-Reply-To: <4FB26769.7070405@netwok.org> References: <4FAAF22F.2040402@netwok.org> <4FADD5EA.80601@netwok.org> <4FB26769.7070405@netwok.org> Message-ID: Hi Eric: Lately, I have been receiving many contributor agreement forms which have been sent from contributors at python.org by the contributor. Therefore, I am not sure why, I have not received Guillaume Pratte's form, since it was sent from the same online email address. On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:25 AM, ?ric Araujo wrote: > Hi Pat, > > Here are the headers of Guillaume?s mail: > > Object: Contributor Agreement > Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 22:34:49 -0400 > From: Guillaume Pratte > To: contributors at python.org > On the same topic, I have PDFs containing scanned agreements from new > contributors, with more than one agreement per file; should I send you this > or do you prefer one file per person? > If you would like to submit agreement forms from new contributors, please send them as individual forms or as separate pdf files. Thanks, Pat > > Thanks > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbk at shore.net Tue May 15 21:47:16 2012 From: kbk at shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 15:47:16 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor Message-ID: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> We received a contributor agreement from Grupa Allegro Sp covering David Tudor, signed by him and Krzysztof Dabrowski CIO I will mail the agreement to our Administrator. KBK From ncoghlan at gmail.com Wed May 16 02:59:57 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:59:57 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. > > He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for > 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass > machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating > of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on > mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> > types.build_class in Python change). Nobody else has an opinion on this? Positive *or* negative? Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From jnoller at gmail.com Wed May 16 03:20:46 2012 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 21:20:46 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0DD855E4-71AB-4263-A47F-CF11A3F38FC8@gmail.com> I'm +1 on your recommendation alone On May 15, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. >> >> He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for >> 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass >> machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating >> of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on >> mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> >> types.build_class in Python change). > > Nobody else has an opinion on this? Positive *or* negative? > > Cheers, > Nick. > > -- > Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan at gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers From martin at v.loewis.de Wed May 16 03:26:12 2012 From: martin at v.loewis.de (martin at v.loewis.de) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 03:26:12 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120516032612.Horde.2BI5ULuWis5PswI0MQuApbA@webmail.df.eu> Zitat von Nick Coghlan : > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. >> >> He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for >> 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass >> machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating >> of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on >> mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> >> types.build_class in Python change). > > Nobody else has an opinion on this? Positive *or* negative? -0. I don't know who Daniel Urban is. It seems that he posted a total of four messages to python-dev this year, all related to a single feature of Python. My question now is whether he really *needs* commit privileges (or, rather, whether whoever checks in his changes at the moment would gain a desirable reduction of workload if Daniel could push changes himself). Regards, Martin From ncoghlan at gmail.com Wed May 16 03:50:51 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 11:50:51 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: <20120516032612.Horde.2BI5ULuWis5PswI0MQuApbA@webmail.df.eu> References: <20120516032612.Horde.2BI5ULuWis5PswI0MQuApbA@webmail.df.eu> Message-ID: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 11:26 AM, wrote: > > Zitat von Nick Coghlan : > > >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >>> >>> I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. >>> >>> He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for >>> 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass >>> machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating >>> of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on >>> mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> >>> types.build_class in Python change). >> >> >> Nobody else has an opinion on this? Positive *or* negative? > > -0. I don't know who Daniel Urban is. It seems that he posted a total > of four messages to python-dev this year, all related to a single feature > of Python. My question now is whether he really *needs* commit privileges > (or, rather, whether whoever checks in his changes at the moment would > gain a desirable reduction of workload if Daniel could push changes > himself). Most of my interaction with Daniel has been through the tracker rather than python-dev, and it's specifically his work on fixing some (obscure) latent defects in the metaclass calculation for 3.2 that earned my respect (although he's worked on several other patches as well, the results of which can be seen in Misc/NEWS). Regards, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From solipsis at pitrou.net Wed May 16 09:41:36 2012 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:41:36 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1337154096.3374.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> Le mercredi 16 mai 2012 ? 10:59 +1000, Nick Coghlan a ?crit : > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. > > > > He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for > > 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass > > machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating > > of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on > > mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> > > types.build_class in Python change). > > Nobody else has an opinion on this? Positive *or* negative? Not having interacted with him, I can't really have an opinion :) Regards Antoine. From petri at digip.org Wed May 16 11:04:02 2012 From: petri at digip.org (Petri Lehtinen) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:04:02 +0300 Subject: [python-committers] Contrib forms In-Reply-To: <4F943F2A.6060709@v.loewis.de> References: <4F943F2A.6060709@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <20120516090402.GA2822@p16> "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > As some may have been noticed, I started urging contributors more > intensely to submit contributor forms before accepting their patches. > I encourage all committers to do the same, for non-trivial changes. > > You may wonder what changed between before and now: we (the PSF) now > have a good management of the forms, thanks to them being listed in > Roundup, and thanks to Pat (Campbell) keeping track of all forms that > we receive. So we (the committers) are now in a position to actually > verify that we have a contrib form received before deciding whether or > not to commit a patch. The devguide [1] currently says: It?s unlikely bug fixes will require a Contributor Licensing Agreement unless they touch a lot of code. For new features, it is preferable to ask that the contributor submit a signed CLA to the PSF as the associated comments, docstrings and documentation are far more likely to reach a copyrightable standard. Is this still the case? How about new features that are quite small? (e.g. http://bugs.python.org/issue14809 whose patch adds a few constants from a newer RFC) If we are to require a signed agreement from smaller changes too, the devguide should be updated. [1] http://docs.python.org/devguide/committing.html#contributor-licensing-agreements From martin at v.loewis.de Wed May 16 11:35:01 2012 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 11:35:01 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Contrib forms In-Reply-To: <20120516090402.GA2822@p16> References: <4F943F2A.6060709@v.loewis.de> <20120516090402.GA2822@p16> Message-ID: <4FB374C5.8030209@v.loewis.de> > The devguide [1] currently says: > > It?s unlikely bug fixes will require a Contributor Licensing > Agreement unless they touch a lot of code. For new features, it is > preferable to ask that the contributor submit a signed CLA to the > PSF as the associated comments, docstrings and documentation are > far more likely to reach a copyrightable standard. > > Is this still the case? No. IANAL, but I think the proper requirement is that there must be some creative act in writing the code (such as naming an identifier). If the work is under copyright (which isn't up to the author to decide), then we need the form from the author. > How about new features that are quite small? > (e.g. http://bugs.python.org/issue14809 whose patch adds a few > constants from a newer RFC) It's probably a border case, as anybody would have likely come up with roughly the same patch. Still, I would have put EungJun Yi into Misc/ACKS (for doing the research), and asked him for a contributor form. > If we are to require a signed agreement from smaller changes too, the > devguide should be updated. Will do! Regards, Martin From lukasz at langa.pl Wed May 16 13:26:31 2012 From: lukasz at langa.pl (=?iso-8859-2?Q?=A3ukasz_Langa?=) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:26:31 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor In-Reply-To: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Some words of explanation. David Tudor specifically is not a contributor, neither is Krzysztof D?browski. Those are representatives of the company. This is my employer and it was my explicit will that the company signs an agreement implicitly for its employees. At least by Polish law, when I'm at work, any copyrightable things I produce are owned by the employer. Now, as the corporation became a contributor, there is no worry that my work done during work hours can infringe copyright laws of my employer. Wiadomo?? napisana przez Kurt B. Kaiser w dniu 15 maj 2012, o godz. 21:47: > We received a contributor agreement from Grupa Allegro Sp covering > > David Tudor, signed by him and Krzysztof Dabrowski CIO > > I will mail the agreement to our Administrator. > > KBK > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers -- Best regards, ?ukasz Langa Senior Systems Architecture Engineer IT Infrastructure Department Grupa Allegro Sp. z o.o. http://lukasz.langa.pl/ +48 791 080 144 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rdmurray at bitdance.com Wed May 16 18:31:16 2012 From: rdmurray at bitdance.com (R. David Murray) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:31:16 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> On Wed, 16 May 2012 10:59:57 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > > I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. > > > > He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for > > 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass > > machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating > > of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on > > mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> > > types.build_class in Python change). > > Nobody else has an opinion on this? Positive *or* negative? Certainly not negative. I haven't taken a look at his patch history, but certainly the traffic I saw about the metaclass stuff gave me a very positive impression. --David From martin at v.loewis.de Wed May 16 20:47:23 2012 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:47:23 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor In-Reply-To: References: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4FB3F63B.6050403@v.loewis.de> On 16.05.2012 13:26, ?ukasz Langa wrote: > Some words of explanation. > > David Tudor specifically is not a contributor, neither is Krzysztof > D?browski. Those are representatives of the company. This is my employer > and it was my explicit will that the company signs an agreement > implicitly for its employees. At least by Polish law, when I'm at work, > any copyrightable things I produce are owned by the employer. > Now, as the corporation became a contributor, there is no worry that my > work done during work hours can infringe copyright laws of my employer. Thanks! I'll make changing the tracker to represent company agreements a priority. Regards, Martin From tjreedy at udel.edu Wed May 16 20:48:54 2012 From: tjreedy at udel.edu (Terry Reedy) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:48:54 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor In-Reply-To: References: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4FB3F696.3010403@udel.edu> On 5/16/2012 7:26 AM, ?ukasz Langa wrote: > Some words of explanation. > > David Tudor specifically is not a contributor, neither is Krzysztof > D?browski. Those are representatives of the company. This is my employer > and it was my explicit will that the company signs an agreement > implicitly for its employees. At least by Polish law, when I'm at work, > any copyrightable things I produce are owned by the employer. > Now, as the corporation became a contributor, there is no worry that my > work done during work hours can infringe copyright laws of my employer. It is more or less the same in the US. Do we have a separate corporate contributors form? tjr From merwok at netwok.org Thu May 17 00:35:45 2012 From: merwok at netwok.org (=?UTF-8?B?w4lyaWMgQXJhdWpv?=) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 18:35:45 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor In-Reply-To: <4FB3F696.3010403@udel.edu> References: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4FB3F696.3010403@udel.edu> Message-ID: <4FB42BC1.9070702@netwok.org> Le 16/05/2012 14:48, Terry Reedy a ?crit : > Do we have a separate corporate contributors form? On a related subject, is there a separate form to be signed by someone other that the patch author, e.g. my boss at work, or does anyone who needs it edit the standard form? From ncoghlan at gmail.com Thu May 17 06:44:33 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 14:44:33 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> Message-ID: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:31 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2012 10:59:57 +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> > I'm proposing we grant commit privileges to Daniel Urban. >> > >> > He's provided patches for a number of fixes and feature requests for >> > 3.2 and 3.3, including a particularly thorny one in the metaclass >> > machinery. He's been very responsive on the tracker, and accommodating >> > of the occasional dramatic shift in direction for a patch based on >> > mailing list feedback (most recently, the operator.build_class in C -> >> > types.build_class in Python change). >> >> Nobody else has an opinion on this? Positive *or* negative? > > Certainly not negative. ?I haven't taken a look at his patch history, > but certainly the traffic I saw about the metaclass stuff gave > me a very positive impression. In the absence of any -1 votes, I'll get Daniel to send his public key through to the hgaccounts address. I'll still watch his commits and remind him that getting patches reviewed on the tracker first is still often the preferred approach, even for committers. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From senthil at uthcode.com Thu May 17 07:47:31 2012 From: senthil at uthcode.com (Senthil Kumaran) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:47:31 +0800 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> Message-ID: Hi Nick, On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > In the absence of any -1 votes, I'll get Daniel to send his public key > through to the hgaccounts address. I'll still watch his commits and > remind him that getting patches reviewed on the tracker first is still > often the preferred approach, even for committers. One more thing to consider is, did he request for it ? If he requested and you are vouching, then +1. If not, I think, it may be helpful to ask him if he okay with the new privileges at this moment. :) Thanks, Senthil From patcam at python.org Thu May 17 12:13:47 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 06:13:47 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Xavier de Gaye Contributor Agreement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Xavier de Gaye: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Xavier de Gaye wrote: > Petri Lehtinen has recommended that I should send you a Contributor > Agreement. Please find it attached to this mail. > > Regards. > > Xavier de Gaye > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 17 13:16:18 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 07:16:18 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi ??????Yi, EungJun: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to add your form to the PSF online bug tracker. In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile (on the online bug tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide the link to your "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your contributor agreement form. Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name (the way it appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to access the webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. Thanking you in advance, Pat On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Yi, EungJun wrote: > Dear Python Software Foundation, > > I submit the contributor agreements. > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 17 14:38:27 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:38:27 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor In-Reply-To: <4FB3F63B.6050403@v.loewis.de> References: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4FB3F63B.6050403@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: Hi Martin: Please keep me in the loop on any final decisions you may come up with & decide on dealing with the company-type contributor agreement form processing versus the way an individual's form is added online. Thanks, Pat On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > On 16.05.2012 13:26, ?ukasz Langa wrote: > >> Some words of explanation. >> >> David Tudor specifically is not a contributor, neither is Krzysztof >> D?browski. Those are representatives of the company. This is my employer >> and it was my explicit will that the company signs an agreement >> implicitly for its employees. At least by Polish law, when I'm at work, >> any copyrightable things I produce are owned by the employer. >> Now, as the corporation became a contributor, there is no worry that my >> work done during work hours can infringe copyright laws of my employer. >> > > Thanks! I'll make changing the tracker to represent company agreements > a priority. > > Regards, > Martin > > ______________________________**_________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/python-**committers > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 17 15:03:55 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:03:55 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor agreement for James Oakley In-Reply-To: <844491214.243.1337198798894.JavaMail.root@mail.funktronics.ca> References: <1464918013.219.1337198741841.JavaMail.root@mail.funktronics.ca> <844491214.243.1337198798894.JavaMail.root@mail.funktronics.ca> Message-ID: Hi James: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM, James Oakley wrote: > Here is my contributor agreement, as requested by Antoine Pitrou in > http://bugs.python.org/issue14780 > > -- > James Oakley > jfunk at funktronics.ca > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 17 15:26:40 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 09:26:40 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] bfroehle In-Reply-To: <019067DCAAF941CFBFEB26B418CC7357@gmail.com> References: <019067DCAAF941CFBFEB26B418CC7357@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Bradley: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Bradley M. Froehle wrote: > Dear PSF Secretary, > > Attached please attached the PSF Contributor Agreement covering both past > and future contributions. > > Sincerely, > Bradley M Froehle > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kbk at shore.net Wed May 16 20:57:30 2012 From: kbk at shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:57:30 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor In-Reply-To: <4FB3F63B.6050403@v.loewis.de> References: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4FB3F63B.6050403@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <1337194650.32266.140661076442149.4F072F90@webmail.messagingengine.com> Attached is a scan of the agreement, so you can see what they sent. KBK On Wed, May 16, 2012, at 08:47 PM, Martin v. L?wis wrote: > On 16.05.2012 13:26, ?ukasz Langa wrote: > > Some words of explanation. > > > > David Tudor specifically is not a contributor, neither is Krzysztof > > D?browski. Those are representatives of the company. This is my employer > > and it was my explicit will that the company signs an agreement > > implicitly for its employees. At least by Polish law, when I'm at work, > > any copyrightable things I produce are owned by the employer. > > Now, as the corporation became a contributor, there is no worry that my > > work done during work hours can infringe copyright laws of my employer. > > Thanks! I'll make changing the tracker to represent company agreements > a priority. > > Regards, > Martin > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tudor_contrib_002.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 50683 bytes Desc: not available URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 17 17:16:08 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 11:16:08 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - David Tudor In-Reply-To: <1337194650.32266.140661076442149.4F072F90@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1337111236.19910.140661075967697.0EFE6B23@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4FB3F63B.6050403@v.loewis.de> <1337194650.32266.140661076442149.4F072F90@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Thanks Kurt, I received & processed this same document about a week or so ago. Pat On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Kurt B. Kaiser wrote: > Attached is a scan of the agreement, so you can see what they sent. > > KBK > > On Wed, May 16, 2012, at 08:47 PM, Martin v. L?wis wrote: > > On 16.05.2012 13:26, ?ukasz Langa wrote: > > > Some words of explanation. > > > > > > David Tudor specifically is not a contributor, neither is Krzysztof > > > D?browski. Those are representatives of the company. This is my > employer > > > and it was my explicit will that the company signs an agreement > > > implicitly for its employees. At least by Polish law, when I'm at work, > > > any copyrightable things I produce are owned by the employer. > > > Now, as the corporation became a contributor, there is no worry that my > > > work done during work hours can infringe copyright laws of my employer. > > > > Thanks! I'll make changing the tracker to represent company agreements > > a priority. > > > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 17 19:01:16 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:01:16 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreements In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Yi: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. In addition, the link you provided was very helpful toward the effort of getting your online contributor information updated. Pat On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Yi, EungJun wrote: > Well, I hope this link is what you need. > > http://bugs.python.org/user14332 > > Thanks for your effort. > > > 2012/5/17 Pat Campbell : > > Hi ??????Yi, EungJun: > > > > Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to > > add your > > form to the PSF online bug tracker. > > > > In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile > (on > > the online bug > > tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide > > the link to your > > > > "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your > > contributor > > agreement form. > > > > Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name > (the > > way it > > > > appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able > to > > access the > > > > webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage > is > > "case sensitive", > > > > therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. > > > > Thanking you in advance, > > Pat > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:53 AM, Yi, EungJun > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Python Software Foundation, > >> > >> I submit the contributor agreements. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pat Campbell > > PSF Administrator/Secretary > > patcam at python.org > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Fri May 18 12:13:53 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 06:13:53 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] contributor license agreement. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi ??????Peter: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to add your form to the PSF online bug tracker. In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile (on the online bug tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide the link to your "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your contributor agreement form. Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name (the way it appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to access the webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. Thanking you in advance, Pat On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Peter Moody wrote: > -- > Peter Moody Google 1.650.253.7306 > Security Engineer pgp:0xC3410038 > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Fri May 18 13:05:42 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:05:42 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement form for Mark Shannon Message-ID: Hi Mark: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gh at ghaering.de Sun May 20 14:43:59 2012 From: gh at ghaering.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gerhard_H=E4ring?=) Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 14:43:59 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] ssh key Message-ID: Hi guys, I'm the maintainer of the sqlite3 module and want to get more active again. my ssh key apparently wasn't transferred when the svn => hg switch was made. Can somebody please install my public ssh key? -- Gerhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Nick Wilson wrote: > Contributor agreement attached. > > > Nick Wilson > nick at njwilson.net > Username: njwilson > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Mon May 21 12:09:29 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 06:09:29 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] contributor license agreement. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Peter: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. The link you sent me was very helpful. Pat On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Peter Moody wrote: > Hi Pat, > > http://bugs.python.org/user9293 is my user-number page. Is that what you > need? > > Cheers, > peter > > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:13 AM, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Hi ??????Peter: > > > > Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to > > add your > > form to the PSF online bug tracker. > > > > In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile > (on > > the online bug > > tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide > > the link to your > > > > "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your > > contributor > > agreement form. > > > > Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name > (the > > way it > > > > appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able > to > > access the > > > > webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage > is > > "case sensitive", > > > > therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. > > > > Thanking you in advance, > > Pat > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Peter Moody wrote: > >> > >> -- > >> Peter Moody Google 1.650.253.7306 > >> Security Engineer pgp:0xC3410038 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pat Campbell > > PSF Administrator/Secretary > > patcam at python.org > > > > -- > Peter Moody Google 1.650.253.7306 > Security Engineer pgp:0xC3410038 > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gh at ghaering.de Mon May 21 14:07:41 2012 From: gh at ghaering.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gerhard_H=E4ring?=) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 14:07:41 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] ssh key In-Reply-To: <1337518118.3366.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1337518118.3366.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi Antoine, On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > [...] >> Can somebody please install my public ssh key? > > Done, can you try now? Now it works. Thanks! -- Gerhard From merwok at netwok.org Mon May 21 19:38:00 2012 From: merwok at netwok.org (=?UTF-8?B?w4lyaWMgQXJhdWpv?=) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 13:38:00 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Form In-Reply-To: References: <555D53CC-B501-4202-B0A2-EEFB7CC29879@me.com> Message-ID: <4FBA7D78.1010902@netwok.org> Hello, > On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Robin Schreiber wrote: >> I attached a signed Contributor Form needed for my GSOC participation. I thought GSoC contributions were covered by Google?s blanket agreement? From martin at v.loewis.de Mon May 21 19:57:45 2012 From: martin at v.loewis.de (martin at v.loewis.de) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:57:45 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Form In-Reply-To: <4FBA7D78.1010902@netwok.org> References: <555D53CC-B501-4202-B0A2-EEFB7CC29879@me.com> <4FBA7D78.1010902@netwok.org> Message-ID: <20120521195745.Horde.7I1TGLuWis5PuoIZpL6R5uA@webmail.df.eu> >> On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Robin Schreiber >> wrote: >>> I attached a signed Contributor Form needed for my GSOC participation. > > I thought GSoC contributions were covered by Google?s blanket agreement? Why would they? From the GSoC FAQ: 1. Who owns the code produced by student developers? Each student (or her/his mentoring organization) must license all student Google Summer of Code code under an Open Source Initiative approved license palatable to the mentoring organization. Some organizations will require students to assign copyright to them, but many will allow them to retain copyright. If Google is a student's sponsoring organization, then the student keeps copyright to her/his code. The Google blanket agreement only applies to Google employees (which quite a number of core contributors are). Regards, Martin From patcam at python.org Tue May 22 13:37:38 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 07:37:38 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor agreements for Montreal packaging sprinters In-Reply-To: <4FBA8725.7060008@netwok.org> References: <4FBA8725.7060008@netwok.org> Message-ID: Hi Eric: Thank-you for submitting the contributor agreement forms below: Is it possible to have each contributor create a profile on the online tracker (in order for me to give them credit for providing a signed form to the PSF). I can hold their contributor agreement forms (below) until a profile is created. However, I should be able to process Julien Courteau's form, since, he has a tracker account. And, I will check into Mathieu Leduc-Hamel, however, if his ID does not match and he is unable to access his account, then he may want to create a new one. Thanks, Pat On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:19 PM, ?ric Araujo wrote: > Dear Pam, > > Please find attached contributor agreements from the recent packaging > sprinters, including the one that was sent to you but not received. > > Only one of them has a tracker account yet: Julien Courteau, > http://bugs.python.org/user15969. > > On a related note, Mathieu Leduc-Hamel should have sent a contributor > agreement two years ago but his profile (can?t find the ID, the name is > mlhamel) does not reflect that. Please tell him or me if the agreement > can?t be found and a new one is needed. > > FYI I used the PDF-Shuffler program to split the scan file into > individual PDFs; it comes in handy! > > Thanks and best regards > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue May 22 13:50:45 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 07:50:45 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement for Julien Courteau Message-ID: Hi Julien: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What is the process? -Frank From jnoller at gmail.com Wed May 23 19:59:11 2012 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 13:59:11 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] How to get commit rights for new Jython committers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01B11016B7374628A5597A766DAD74AC@gmail.com> Get CLA's in to Pat Cambell so she can set your bit in the tracker and send in your public SSH keys, as far as I know :) On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 1:52 PM, fwierzbicki at gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > So far Philip Jenvey has been doing the foot work for getting new > Jython committers a commit bit - I have one (and probably soon a > couple more) new committers to set up. What is the process? > > -Frank > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org (mailto:python-committers at python.org) > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers From fwierzbicki at gmail.com Wed May 23 20:01:18 2012 From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (fwierzbicki at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 11:01:18 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] How to get commit rights for new Jython committers In-Reply-To: <01B11016B7374628A5597A766DAD74AC@gmail.com> References: <01B11016B7374628A5597A766DAD74AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: > Get CLA's in to Pat Cambell so she can set your bit in the tracker and send in your public SSH keys, as far as I know :) CLAs are done - do I send public SSH keys here? -Frank From jnoller at gmail.com Wed May 23 20:05:57 2012 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:05:57 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] How to get commit rights for new Jython committers In-Reply-To: References: <01B11016B7374628A5597A766DAD74AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48F53B24F0F848AA89F905996059B430@gmail.com> That's a question for martin or georg/antoine I think On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at 2:01 PM, fwierzbicki at gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: > > Get CLA's in to Pat Cambell so she can set your bit in the tracker and send in your public SSH keys, as far as I know :) > > > > CLAs are done - do I send public SSH keys here? > > -Frank From merwok at netwok.org Wed May 23 20:28:42 2012 From: merwok at netwok.org (=?UTF-8?B?w4lyaWMgQXJhdWpv?=) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:28:42 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] How to get commit rights for new Jython committers In-Reply-To: <48F53B24F0F848AA89F905996059B430@gmail.com> References: <01B11016B7374628A5597A766DAD74AC@gmail.com> <48F53B24F0F848AA89F905996059B430@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4FBD2C5A.1030901@netwok.org> Hi, >> CLAs are done - do I send public SSH keys here? See http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev#ssh Cheers From petri at digip.org Wed May 23 20:26:24 2012 From: petri at digip.org (Petri Lehtinen) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 21:26:24 +0300 Subject: [python-committers] How to get commit rights for new Jython committers In-Reply-To: References: <01B11016B7374628A5597A766DAD74AC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20120523182624.GA2386@chang> fwierzbicki at gmail.com wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Jesse Noller wrote: > > Get CLA's in to Pat Cambell so she can set your bit in the tracker and send in your public SSH keys, as far as I know :) > > CLAs are done - do I send public SSH keys here? According to the devguide, you should send them to hgaccounts at python.org: http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html#ssh From fwierzbicki at gmail.com Wed May 23 20:51:42 2012 From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (fwierzbicki at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 11:51:42 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] How to get commit rights for new Jython committers In-Reply-To: <20120523182624.GA2386@chang> References: <01B11016B7374628A5597A766DAD74AC@gmail.com> <20120523182624.GA2386@chang> Message-ID: On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Petri Lehtinen wrote: > According to the devguide, you should send them to hgaccounts at python.org: > > ? ?http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html#ssh Drat, I should have RTFM :) -Frank From patcam at python.org Thu May 24 20:22:35 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:22:35 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement form for Pierre Paul Lefebvre Message-ID: Hi Pierre: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 24 20:42:06 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:42:06 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement In-Reply-To: <20120524180345.GN16366@alittletooquiet.net> References: <20120524180345.GN16366@alittletooquiet.net> Message-ID: Hi Forest: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Forest Bond wrote: > Hi, > > Scan is attached. > > Thanks, > Forest > -- > Forest Bond > http://www.alittletooquiet.net > http://www.rapidrollout.com > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk++eAEACgkQRO4fQQdv5AxM1gCgvJd6PAKnAP2nPsyenUT2AVHy > IM8AnRAmMOK1EQGarNY7Q/c09lNVabgq > =uNqL > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Fri May 25 20:44:41 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 14:44:41 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor agreement for ssm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Sidney: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like to add your form to the PSF online bug tracker. In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile (on the online bug tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please provide the link to your "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your contributor agreement form. Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name (the way it appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able to access the webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage is "case sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site must be exact. Thanking you in advance, Pat On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Sidney San Mart?n wrote: > Hey, > > I was just asked to sign a contributor agreement on bug 14835. It?s > attached! > > Thanks, > Sidney > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.brandl at gmx.net Mon May 28 19:53:57 2012 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:53:57 +0200 Subject: [python-committers] Alpha 4 tomorrow Message-ID: Hi all, it has been requested to delay a4 a bit more, so I will tag tomorrow either afternoon or evening UTC. It's just another alpha after all, so there is no rush to get in features yet (and I hope there won't be before beta either). Georg From patcam at python.org Tue May 29 15:04:54 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:04:54 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tim: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Tim Silk wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > Please find attached my completed python contributor form. > > Tim Silk. > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue May 29 15:23:43 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:23:43 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor agreement for ssm In-Reply-To: <01DA4E8F9A604C409BF6E30D45498342@sidneysm.com> References: <01DA4E8F9A604C409BF6E30D45498342@sidneysm.com> Message-ID: Hi Sidney: Yes, I was able to update your contributor agreement form information located on the online bug tracker. Thanks, Pat On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Sidney San Mart?n wrote: > Thanks Pat! > > Is this the page you?re looking for? > > http://bugs.python.org/user15625 > > > On Friday, May 25, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > > > Hi Sidney: > > > > > > Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form. I would like > to add your > > form to the PSF online bug tracker. > > > > In order for me to add your contributor agreement form to your profile > (on the online bug > > tracker) I will need to access your user number webpage or please > provide the link to your > > > > > > "user# editing" webpage in order for me to mark (Yes) to receiving your > contributor > > agreement form. > > > > Or, you could provide me with your "user name, user number, & real name > (the way it > > > > > > > > appears on the online bug tracker "login" webpage, since I was not able > to access the > > > > > > > > webpage based on the information provided on the form. The login webpage > is "case > > > > > > > > sensitive", therefore, the data used to access a webpage on this site > must be exact. > > > > Thanking you in advance, > > Pat > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Sidney San Mart?n s at sidneysm.com)> wrote: > > > Hey, > > > > > > I was just asked to sign a contributor agreement on bug 14835. It?s > attached! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sidney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Pat Campbell > > PSF Administrator/Secretary > > patcam at python.org (mailto:patcam at python.org) > > > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue May 29 15:44:32 2012 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 09:44:32 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] signed contributors agreement In-Reply-To: <20120529090243.GA12371@runtux.com> References: <20120529090243.GA12371@runtux.com> Message-ID: Hi Ralf: Thank-you for submitting your contributor agreement form to the PSF. It has been added to the online bug tracker. Pat On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Ralf Schlatterbeck wrote: > please find enclosed my contributors agreement > (requested for issue1079) > > Best Regards > Ralf Schlatterbeck > -- > Dr. Ralf Schlatterbeck Tel: +43/2243/26465-16 > Open Source Consulting www: http://www.runtux.com > Reichergasse 131, A-3411 Weidling email: office at runtux.com > osAlliance member email: rsc at osalliance.com > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From merwok at netwok.org Tue May 29 16:20:39 2012 From: merwok at netwok.org (=?UTF-8?B?w4lyaWMgQXJhdWpv?=) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:20:39 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Wording about packaging in the 3.3 announcement In-Reply-To: <4FA03CD1.7020605@python.org> References: <4FA03CD1.7020605@python.org> Message-ID: <4FC4DB37.5010804@netwok.org> Hi Georg, I would like to clarify something in order to remove a misleading or confusing statement from the release email: > * The new "packaging" module, building upon the "distribute" and > "distutils2" projects and deprecating "distutils" First, packaging *is* distutils2, modulo a few changesets that I have to port between the codebases. Second, I would remove the mention of distribute: packaging is an implementation of the packaging PEPs which have their origins in setuptools and which have been improved by the community, and it also takes some minor features and ideas from setuptools, but I think that ?building upon? is too strong (and mentioning only distribute may hurt the feelings of setuptools authors and users?distutils-sig is a heated place). My suggestion: * The new "packaging" module (also known as distutils2, and released standalone under this name), implementing the new packaging formats and deprecating "distutils". The whatsnew document has the same problem, and also mixes packaging (venv and packaging) with imports (namespace packages), but I did not get a chance to fix it before today, so I probably will after the alpha. Thanks From kbk at shore.net Tue May 29 23:27:31 2012 From: kbk at shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:27:31 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Contributor Agreement - Michael Driscoll Message-ID: <1338326851.13566.140661082334141.63EC9843@webmail.messagingengine.com> We received an agreement from Michael Driscoll by postal mail. I've forwarded it to our administrator. KBK From ncoghlan at gmail.com Wed May 30 00:31:42 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 08:31:42 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Wording about packaging in the 3.3 announcement In-Reply-To: <4FC4DB37.5010804@netwok.org> References: <4FA03CD1.7020605@python.org> <4FC4DB37.5010804@netwok.org> Message-ID: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM, ?ric Araujo wrote: > The whatsnew document has the same problem, and also mixes packaging (venv > and packaging) with imports (namespace packages), but I did not get a chance > to fix it before today, so I probably will after the alpha. Those additions were from me, and were a result of the fact that those are *big* changes that should have a huge positive impact for end users in the long run, but weren't being advertised in the What's New at all. (packaging was at least mentioned in the "new modules" section, but replacing the framework for component distribution deserves a lot more prominence than that - it's far more significant for the future of Python than minor syntactic changes like PEP 380 or 409). The reason they're lumped together like that is because they're all related to code distribution - namespace packages are about being able to easily split up a single Python package across multiple installed components, PEP 405 is about maintaining multiple independent sets of installed components on a single machine, and packaging/pysetup is the new system for building and installing components in general. While it makes sense that Raymond doesn't want to devote too much time to cleaning up What's New until the feature set stabilises in the first beta, we need to remember that alpha users also need some pointers to the shiny new toys we'd like them to tinker with. pysetup and pyvenv in particular are rather hard to test in an automated fashion, so we'd really like people hammering on them manually. In the absence of preliminary entries on those topics, I added the shorthand section so that they were at least mentioned and users would know to go look at them and try them out. Ideally, each of those bullet points will be expanded out to an entire section in their own right. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From ncoghlan at gmail.com Wed May 30 05:46:04 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:46:04 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> Message-ID: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > In the absence of any -1 votes, I'll get Daniel to send his public key > through to the hgaccounts address. I'll still watch his commits and > remind him that getting patches reviewed on the tracker first is still > often the preferred approach, even for committers. On reflection, I decided to instead extend Daniel an offer that he could add me to the nosy list on any issues he was working on and I'd take a look. An explicit offer to review any patches he submits seems like a sensible interim step prior to granting him direct push access. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From steve at holdenweb.com Wed May 30 05:51:54 2012 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:51:54 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Commit privileges for Daniel Urban In-Reply-To: References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> Message-ID: On May 29, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> In the absence of any -1 votes, I'll get Daniel to send his public key >> through to the hgaccounts address. I'll still watch his commits and >> remind him that getting patches reviewed on the tracker first is still >> often the preferred approach, even for committers. > > On reflection, I decided to instead extend Daniel an offer that he > could add me to the nosy list on any issues he was working on and I'd > take a look. > > An explicit offer to review any patches he submits seems like a > sensible interim step prior to granting him direct push access. > Probably a bit less scary for him as well, we might hope. I know I am in trepidation of even looking at the codebase when I consider the chops of those who wrote most of it. He's going to make it! regards Steve PS: Will be leaving committers as soon as I find out how, but not for any other reason than bandwisth. I hope you all know where to find me if you need me. Devs-keep-devving. As you were. -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: Open Django Central Jun 8-9: http://opendjango.com/central/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at holdenweb.com Wed May 30 05:57:55 2012 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:57:55 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...] In-Reply-To: References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> Message-ID: <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> Is any one person in the dev community anxious to represent that community in the (hopefully forthcoming) "new new python.org" development. Probably a good time to talk about that, as the RFP is open. I think I'd give bonus marks to anyone who offered (as one of the alternative styles) Jost's random multi-logoed blue designs, which I suspect might be a fond choice occasionally for some old-timers such as myself. No reason why history must be forgotten. We aren't the State Department. regards Steve PS: feel free to move to python-dev, where I no longer lurk. On May 29, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: >> In the absence of any -1 votes, I'll get Daniel to send his public key >> through to the hgaccounts address. I'll still watch his commits and >> remind him that getting patches reviewed on the tracker first is still >> often the preferred approach, even for committers. > > On reflection, I decided to instead extend Daniel an offer that he > could add me to the nosy list on any issues he was working on and I'd > take a look. > > An explicit offer to review any patches he submits seems like a > sensible interim step prior to granting him direct push access. > > Cheers, > Nick. > > -- > Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan at gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/ Next: Open Django Central Jun 8-9: http://opendjango.com/central/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll still watch his commits and > > remind him that getting patches reviewed on the tracker first is still > > often the preferred approach, even for committers. > > > On reflection, I decided to instead extend Daniel an offer that he > could add me to the nosy list on any issues he was working on and I'd > take a look. > > An explicit offer to review any patches he submits seems like a > sensible interim step prior to granting him direct push access. > > > Probably a bit less scary for him as well, we might hope. I know I am in > trepidation of even looking at the codebase when I consider the chops of > those who wrote most of it. He's going to make it! > > regards > Steve > > PS: Will be leaving committers as soon as I find out how, but not for any > other reason than bandwisth. I hope you all know where to find me if you > need me. Devs-keep-devving. 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URL: From ncoghlan at gmail.com Thu May 31 03:04:03 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 11:04:03 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...] In-Reply-To: <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > Is any one person in the dev community anxious to represent that community > in the (hopefully forthcoming) "new new python.org" development. Probably a > good time to talk about that, as the RFP is open. I'd be happy to do it if nobody else volunteers. Maybe we can get some RSS feeds hooked up in appropriate places :) Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From nad at acm.org Thu May 31 03:14:39 2012 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:14:39 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...] References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> Message-ID: In article , Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > > Is any one person in the dev community anxious to represent that community > > in the (hopefully forthcoming) "new new python.org" development. Probably a > > good time to talk about that, as the RFP is open. > > I'd be happy to do it if nobody else volunteers. Maybe we can get some > RSS feeds hooked up in appropriate places :) It would be good to ensure that someone with recent experience managing Python releases is included in the process since the release managers are major content producers for python.org (i.e. the current /downloads section including release pages) and have their own particular needs for working with the web site.. -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From jnoller at gmail.com Thu May 31 03:45:26 2012 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 21:45:26 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...] In-Reply-To: References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> Message-ID: <6ECDA7A0-E4CE-4EF9-BD14-0AC81F6DE17E@gmail.com> On May 30, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > In article > , > Nick Coghlan wrote: >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Steve Holden wrote: >>> Is any one person in the dev community anxious to represent that community >>> in the (hopefully forthcoming) "new new python.org" development. Probably a >>> good time to talk about that, as the RFP is open. >> >> I'd be happy to do it if nobody else volunteers. Maybe we can get some >> RSS feeds hooked up in appropriate places :) > > It would be good to ensure that someone with recent experience managing > Python releases is included in the process since the release managers > are major content producers for python.org (i.e. the current /downloads > section including release pages) and have their own particular needs for > working with the web site.. > Please take a look at the RFP. It doesn't look to change the download manager process, and in fact forces an offline working/contributor mode so this workflow can stay close to what it is today. From nad at acm.org Thu May 31 04:20:40 2012 From: nad at acm.org (Ned Deily) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:20:40 -0700 Subject: [python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...] References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> <6ECDA7A0-E4CE-4EF9-BD14-0AC81F6DE17E@gmail.com> Message-ID: In article <6ECDA7A0-E4CE-4EF9-BD14-0AC81F6DE17E at gmail.com>, Jesse Noller wrote: > On May 30, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > > In article > > , > > Nick Coghlan wrote: > >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Steve Holden wrote: > >>> Is any one person in the dev community anxious to represent that > >>> community > >>> in the (hopefully forthcoming) "new new python.org" development. Probably > >>> a > >>> good time to talk about that, as the RFP is open. > >> > >> I'd be happy to do it if nobody else volunteers. Maybe we can get some > >> RSS feeds hooked up in appropriate places :) > > > > It would be good to ensure that someone with recent experience managing > > Python releases is included in the process since the release managers > > are major content producers for python.org (i.e. the current /downloads > > section including release pages) and have their own particular needs for > > working with the web site.. > Please take a look at the RFP. It doesn't look to change the download manager > process, and in fact forces an offline working/contributor mode so this > workflow can stay close to what it is today. Jesse, I had read it and I think it's a good RFP. Kudos to all involved. My point was to address Steve's request for "any one person in the dev community". It seemed to me that the release managers are one of the most important content producers today on the web site so perhaps one of them should be considered as that representative. But perhaps I misunderstand what Steve was suggesting. -- Ned Deily, nad at acm.org From ncoghlan at gmail.com Thu May 31 04:56:36 2012 From: ncoghlan at gmail.com (Nick Coghlan) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:56:36 +1000 Subject: [python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...] In-Reply-To: References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> <6ECDA7A0-E4CE-4EF9-BD14-0AC81F6DE17E@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > Jesse, I had read it and I think it's a good RFP. ?Kudos to all > involved. ?My point was to address Steve's request for "any one person > in the dev community". ?It seemed to me that the release managers are > one of the most important content producers today on the web site so > perhaps one of them should be considered as that representative. ?But > perhaps I misunderstand what Steve was suggesting. I took the point to be having someone involved that can raise a red flag if something starts looking like a problem from the dev side and suggest things like "we should ask for the RMs feedback on this particular aspect". No need to have a large group involved every step of the way, but worth having a sufficiently broad range of viewpoints that most potential issues can be identified early before they have a chance to become real problems. Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan?? |?? ncoghlan at gmail.com?? |?? Brisbane, Australia From jnoller at gmail.com Thu May 31 11:49:47 2012 From: jnoller at gmail.com (Jesse Noller) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 05:49:47 -0400 Subject: [python-committers] Threadjack: python-dev input to site redesign [sorry ...] In-Reply-To: References: <20120516163117.94E662509E3@webabinitio.net> <924F705F-4C0E-4B18-A074-887FDFB6EE9A@holdenweb.com> <6ECDA7A0-E4CE-4EF9-BD14-0AC81F6DE17E@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 30, 2012, at 10:56 PM, Nick Coghlan wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Ned Deily wrote: >> Jesse, I had read it and I think it's a good RFP. Kudos to all >> involved. My point was to address Steve's request for "any one person >> in the dev community". It seemed to me that the release managers are >> one of the most important content producers today on the web site so >> perhaps one of them should be considered as that representative. But >> perhaps I misunderstand what Steve was suggesting. > > I took the point to be having someone involved that can raise a red > flag if something starts looking like a problem from the dev side and > suggest things like "we should ask for the RMs feedback on this > particular aspect". No need to have a large group involved every step > of the way, but worth having a sufficiently broad range of viewpoints > that most potential issues can be identified early before they have a > chance to become real problems. > > Cheers, > Nick. > If you aren't subbed already I'll add you today > -- > Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan at gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers