[ python-Bugs-1563630 ] IDLE doesn't load - apparently without firewall problems

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Bugs item #1563630, was opened at 2006-09-22 13:19
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Category: IDLE
Group: Python 2.5
>Status: Closed
>Resolution: Works For Me
Priority: 5
Submitted By: dani (daniboy22)
Assigned to: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk)
Summary: IDLE doesn't load - apparently without firewall problems

Initial Comment:
I've installed Python in Windows XP, SP2. When I ran
IDLE for the first times, it worked ok. But then I
redefined some shorcuts (history-previous,
history-next, and expand-word). This also worked ok,
but there was a problem I wasn't expecting: I changed
the history-previous to the short-cut <Ctrl> + P, and
when I use it for the first time it printed the content
of the window... I forgot that this shorcut was already
in use...

Then came the real problem. I went to redefine the
history-previous to another key set, but each time I
clicked for "oK" for the new keys, the shell wrote some
errors in red (-/+ 7/8 lines). I did that a few times
until I closed IDLE and tried to restarted it again.
Then it stop working.

The only thing it does now is to show the hourglass
logo in the mouse pointer for a few seconds and then it
does not do anything else.

I've installed Python in its default path
(C:\Python25), and tried to switch off all the
firewalls I remembered (Windows Firewall and disabled
McAfee Virus Scan). None of that worked. I tried
several times to reinstall the software, but that
didn't work either.

I even tried to install a previous version of Python
(v2.4.3), but it had exactly the same problem.

I haven't found any similar problem on the web.

Thanks,
Dani 

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>Comment By: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk)
Date: 2006-10-08 21:11

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OK, thanks.  I'm closing this for now, but if you
manage to get something definitive, please reopen
the bug and post the error messages or describe a
sequence of events which would allow me to duplicate
it.



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Comment By: dani (daniboy22)
Date: 2006-10-08 16:53

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Dear kbk,

I no longer have problems with IDLE. I believe that probably
there still a bug on IDLE, but on the day that my problem
appeared, I did a lot of things and I am not fully able to
reproduce what happened. 

Anyway, with some luck, perhaps this error does not come up
again and/or will be solved indirectly later :-)

Tx,
Dani

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Comment By: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk)
Date: 2006-10-07 13:52

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I take it that the problem is gone now?  If it's real,
to have any hope of addressing it I need to be able
to reproduce it.  IDLE may be printing error messages
to stderr.  If you have more problems, start IDLE from
a command window so you can see the error messages:

cd to idlelib and run ..\..\python .\PyShell.py

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Comment By: jordanramz (jordanramz)
Date: 2006-10-04 19:58

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Well I think there is just a problem with my OS files or 
something anyway.  There are a couple other things (i.e. 
my "Recent Documents" folder) that do the same thing, even 
when I'm logged on as myself.  Thanks for the help 
though.  I need something to run and find/fix errors with 
my system, but not sure what the best program is.  If you 
know of any, could you let me know. :)  Thanks

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Comment By: dani (daniboy22)
Date: 2006-10-04 10:38

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Usually I do not need to boot on safe mode to log in as
asministrator (I also work on a laptop)... The safe mode
reduces some of the Windows functionalities... Perhaps this
is the real reason for your problem.

Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you more... :-(

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Comment By: jordanramz (jordanramz)
Date: 2006-10-03 22:45

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The problem is that it is my laptop, so I am the 
administrator.  I booted up in safe mode so that I could 
log on as the administrator, and even then it wouldn't let 
me access any of my (username) documents, so I couldn't 
even get in to view that folder let alone change the 
name.  

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Comment By: dani (daniboy22)
Date: 2006-10-03 09:33

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Well, I'm also not a specialist on the subject, but in my
case I don't have any problems in opening the folder. I just
had some problems to rename it (it didn't accepted a name
starting with a "."), but I resolve it (I rename it to "pinga").

Concerning your problem, my hint is that your account is not
an administrator one. Try to enter as an administrator and
make the necessary changes. Or else change the permissions
of your account to the "administrator" type (ask someone
that is already an administrator on that computer to do that).

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Comment By: jordanramz (jordanramz)
Date: 2006-10-02 18:15

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Thanks for that, I found it.  However, I guess I'm not as 
skilled with the computer as I thought...  It won't let me 
change the name, open the folder etc.  It says access is 
denied.  Know why it's doing that when I try to modify it?

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Comment By: dani (daniboy22)
Date: 2006-10-02 10:13

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Dear kbk,

I tried your solution and everything seems to work fine. I
even recreated the problem (with the details that I still
remember), and everything is OK.

Many thanks!
Dani

P.S. For jordanramz: the .idlerc folder can be found in the
directory c:\Documents and Settings (assuming you installed
Windows on C:), and then selecting the folder corresponding
to your ID (say, "jordanramz").

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Comment By: dani (daniboy22)
Date: 2006-10-02 10:12

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Dear kbk,

I tried your solution and everything seems to work fine. I
even recreated the problem (with the details that I still
remember), and everything is OK.

Many thanks!
Dani

P.S. For jordanramz: the .idlerc folder can be found in the
directory c:\Documents and Settings (assuming you installed
Windows on C:), and then selecting the folder corresponding
to your ID (say, "jordanramz").

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Comment By: jordanramz (jordanramz)
Date: 2006-10-01 12:42

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What is the .idlerc customization folder?

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Comment By: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk)
Date: 2006-09-30 22:38

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Use the task manager to kill all Python processes.

Then set aside your .idlerc customization folder (i.e.
rename it).

Now IDLE should start.  Try to recreate the problem and
post any error messages you see here.

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Comment By: jordanramz (jordanramz)
Date: 2006-09-22 17:15

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I am having the same problem.  When I first installed it, 
it ran okay.  Now everytime I go back to run it, the 
hourglass on my mouse shows up for a few seconds and then 
nothing.  At first I had v2.4.3 because that's what we're 
using in my class, but I tried v2.5(final) thinking it 
would help, but it didn't, so I reinstalled v2.4.3.   I 
noticed that with my task manager in view, when I click 
the IDLE program my processes jump up one number for a few 
seconds also, then goes back.  So apparently it's running 
but then ending before it loads up?  I tried messing with 
my firewall and stuff also, with no success, so I'm in the 
same boat as you.

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