[PyLadies-BLR] Pyladies Bangalore in Times of India

Noufal Ibrahim noufal at nibrahim.net.in
Tue Sep 24 07:47:49 CEST 2013


Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com> writes:


[...]

>> 3. I believe she spoke to Anand Chitipothu who has both my number and email
>> address. He could have done the kind deed of giving it to the reporter.
>>
>
> I told her about PyLadies and gave your email. You can't blame me if she
> didn't contact you or if she made mistakes in her report.
>
> And your tone though out that email thread was not right, it was too
> demanding. Please show some respect to people and request when you
> need a favor from them. If you continue to be like that, I'll probably
> ignore all your emails.

Agreed. 

"He could have done the kind deed of giving it to the reporter."  is
innuendo at best, an outright accusation at worst.

I for one don't remember seeing anyone from Pyladies at the
conference. Anand, Vijay, Konark and the others were all overloaded with
work for the conference and if they weren't there, there would be no
PyCon India this year. For the record, there were many female volunteers
too.

If I were Anand, I don't I would have done the "kind deed", as you so
unctuously put it, to give anyone your number or email address. As
someone who was in charge of one of the earlier conferences, I know the
stress that's associated with it and I'm not going to go out of my way
to pass on email addresses and phone numbers of people who don't even
show up for the event. Anand's a lot more nicer than me and he did pass
on your contact information but you, instead of giving him the benefit
of doubt, shot off an accusation and that too on a public mailing list.

I remember the ruckus caused by Anand Pillai's github repository a while
ago and there were lots of emails demanding disciplinary action from the
PSF and an apology from him. I recollect a mail from you warning others
of associating with him. While his taste in humour might be
questionable, it was a joke and there was still a huge thread. This, on
the other hand, is not a joke but an outright (false) accusation and I
don't see the same interest by any of the people who participated on the
previous thread.

I'm very much in favour of making the conference accessible to as many
people as possible and against anybody behaving in a way that makes
other delegates uncomfortable. I have done work towards this in many
ways which I don't want to elaborate here.

However, the bottom line for a community event is work. If there's any
organisation that wants to promote itself under PyCon India, we're happy
to do so as long as it doesn't conflict with our general guidelines. The
few volunteers are not going to go out of their ways to do the heavy
lifting for the organisation. People from the organisation should be
doing the hard work (e.g. the FSMK at this years event). I didn't see
any such interest at PyCon India from PyLadies. I even reached out to
the group for some help to find accomodations for an outstation female
participant, I didn't get any replies. If this kind of apathy is what
we're going to be seeing, I'm not very optimistic about what the future
holds for pyladies Bangalore.

And then, after this, to accuse one of the lead organisers of not doing
the "kind deed" of sharing your contact information with a journalist
makes you sound like nothing more than a vocal but annoying pipsqueak.

This whole email is longer and harsher than what I usually write but I
really needed to make this clear. You owe "Mr. Anand" and the whole list
a public apology for the accusation, for not giving him the benefit of
doubt and the general arrogant tone in your emails.

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in


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