From bddicken at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 12:57:51 2023
From: bddicken at gmail.com (Benjamin Dicken)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 09:57:51 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python.org wiki page
Message-ID: <CADE6xPPVnovBXxDm637r5era4JjfMCRXmZztvXH_wObr=V+Yyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I recently created an account on the wiki.python.org website (username
BenDicken) and would like to request to be given edit access. I recently
released an online resource for learning python which I would like to add
to the site, if permitted. The resource I have developed is:

https://pyflo.net/

Which recently got some good traction on HN as well:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36936797

Thank you in advance.

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From rosuav at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 13:37:32 2023
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 03:37:32 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python.org wiki page
In-Reply-To: <CADE6xPPVnovBXxDm637r5era4JjfMCRXmZztvXH_wObr=V+Yyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADE6xPPVnovBXxDm637r5era4JjfMCRXmZztvXH_wObr=V+Yyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmo62NZpmm_xES2LmHoVzCbxGUAuj+JXQc-pfuk3m=wQ+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 02:58, Benjamin Dicken <bddicken at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I recently created an account on the wiki.python.org website (username BenDicken) and would like to request to be given edit access. I recently released an online resource for learning python which I would like to add to the site, if permitted. The resource I have developed is:
>
> https://pyflo.net/
>
> Which recently got some good traction on HN as well:
>
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36936797
>

Sure, go for it! You should have editing access.

ChrisA

From bddicken at gmail.com  Thu Aug  3 18:29:41 2023
From: bddicken at gmail.com (Benjamin Dicken)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 15:29:41 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python.org wiki page
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmo62NZpmm_xES2LmHoVzCbxGUAuj+JXQc-pfuk3m=wQ+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADE6xPPVnovBXxDm637r5era4JjfMCRXmZztvXH_wObr=V+Yyg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPTjJmo62NZpmm_xES2LmHoVzCbxGUAuj+JXQc-pfuk3m=wQ+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADE6xPMaStq74ti1P88QKspnN5-Q0nrcdYxNEYx8ZphG2vQH4g@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, it has been added.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 10:37?AM Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 02:58, Benjamin Dicken <bddicken at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently created an account on the wiki.python.org website (username
> BenDicken) and would like to request to be given edit access. I recently
> released an online resource for learning python which I would like to add
> to the site, if permitted. The resource I have developed is:
> >
> > https://pyflo.net/
> >
> > Which recently got some good traction on HN as well:
> >
> > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36936797
> >
>
> Sure, go for it! You should have editing access.
>
> ChrisA
>


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From mats at wichmann.us  Sat Aug  5 10:01:02 2023
From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann)
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 08:01:02 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] Belarusian Language
In-Reply-To: <CAB9fUqidkkqRhG_j2ZSe239bJ-RPsWhgBFHuwV+nHpFF_ODtCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB9fUqidkkqRhG_j2ZSe239bJ-RPsWhgBFHuwV+nHpFF_ODtCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c9419b8e-9191-e099-cb1f-350f44867ad7@wichmann.us>

On 8/4/23 22:50, 1QMIK :3 wrote:
> I've just found my language Belarusian on this page: 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Languages 
> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Languages> but It's spelled incorrectly 
> "belorussian" language doesn't exist. Please change It to normal name, 
> It should be: BelarusianLanguage

Forwarding this on to a different mailing list as webmaster doesn't deal 
with the wiki contents.

I don't see any problem with changing this.  We English-speaking 
not-from-Belarus did refer to the language as Belorussian prior to 
independence, so the name was not taken completely out of thin air by 
whomever created that page.

If nobody else at pydotorg-www thinks it's a problem, I can see if it 
will let me rename the page.

It would also be nice if there was some actual content! The one link 
there appears to be on a non-responsive server.  If you have any links 
that would be appropriate, perhaps you could consider becoming an 
editor?  You only need to create a wiki account and mail a request to 
pydotorg-www at python.org.



From mal at egenix.com  Sun Aug  6 07:24:38 2023
From: mal at egenix.com (Marc-Andre Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2023 13:24:38 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Webmaster] Belarusian Language
In-Reply-To: <c9419b8e-9191-e099-cb1f-350f44867ad7@wichmann.us>
References: <CAB9fUqidkkqRhG_j2ZSe239bJ-RPsWhgBFHuwV+nHpFF_ODtCQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <c9419b8e-9191-e099-cb1f-350f44867ad7@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <401e5625-0f98-46a5-a322-663a5198b232@egenix.com>

On 05.08.2023 16:01, Mats Wichmann wrote:
> On 8/4/23 22:50, 1QMIK :3 wrote:
>> I've just found my language Belarusian on this page: 
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Languages 
>> <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Languages> but It's spelled incorrectly 
>> "belorussian" language doesn't exist. Please change It to normal name, 
>> It should be: BelarusianLanguage
> 
> Forwarding this on to a different mailing list as webmaster doesn't deal 
> with the wiki contents.
> 
> I don't see any problem with changing this.? We English-speaking 
> not-from-Belarus did refer to the language as Belorussian prior to 
> independence, so the name was not taken completely out of thin air by 
> whomever created that page.
> 
> If nobody else at pydotorg-www thinks it's a problem, I can see if it 
> will let me rename the page.
> 
> It would also be nice if there was some actual content! The one link 
> there appears to be on a non-responsive server.? If you have any links 
> that would be appropriate, perhaps you could consider becoming an 
> editor?? You only need to create a wiki account and mail a request to 
> pydotorg-www at python.org.

I changed the page name and edited it to use the current transliteration.
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From s20210 at lsc.hk  Thu Aug 10 07:50:03 2023
From: s20210 at lsc.hk (Chun Hei LEE)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:50:03 -0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Edit my Home Page
Message-ID: <D66930E3-03A5-4106-8A38-4398D1F5DDB2@lsc.hk>

I Just Want to edit my home page to make my code for discord bot 
Psycho Halo

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From s20210 at lsc.hk  Thu Aug 10 07:50:05 2023
From: s20210 at lsc.hk (Chun Hei LEE)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 11:50:05 -0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Cannot edit page
Message-ID: <002C2011-148D-4DCC-9E98-0C880DDC8EDE@lsc.hk>

Username : Pyscho Halo
Page : Home Page, Pyscho Halo
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From mal at egenix.com  Thu Aug 10 08:03:10 2023
From: mal at egenix.com (Marc-Andre Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 14:03:10 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Cannot edit page
In-Reply-To: <002C2011-148D-4DCC-9E98-0C880DDC8EDE@lsc.hk>
References: <002C2011-148D-4DCC-9E98-0C880DDC8EDE@lsc.hk>
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Hi,

I've added you to the editors group, so you should now be able to add 
your home page.

Thanks.

On 04.10.2021 10:40, Chun Hei LEE wrote:
> Username : Pyscho Halo
> Page : Home Page, Pyscho Halo
> Usage : Discord Bot
> 
> 

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From alb.c.marketing at marketingtu.org  Fri Aug 11 09:01:56 2023
From: alb.c.marketing at marketingtu.org (Alberto C.)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 06:01:56 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Importante
Message-ID: <CABSquRTOWpjNrOxJ5N0PCrKvW0Brhn4FBTMjPPpQVSxgMAqaMQ@mail.gmail.com>

?Hola {{nombre}! Mi nombre es Alberto y estoy encantado de explicarte una
estrategia para mejorar el posicionamiento y reputaci?n de tu negocio en
internet. Publicando noticias en m?s de 60 peri?dicos digitales de gran
autoridad, podemos hacer que posiciones en los buscadores. ?Podr?as
proporcionarme un tel?fono para ofrecerte hasta dos meses gratuitos?
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From anjmo231 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 18:12:11 2023
From: anjmo231 at gmail.com (Anjmo)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 15:12:11 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] (no subject)
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From dmitriikazakov at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 07:48:03 2023
From: dmitriikazakov at gmail.com (Dmitry Kazakov)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:48:03 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python on Android wiki page
Message-ID: <CAAS_QYdQ9J-bAEqfidfwQ_8oCQho5_YArpOH0v9qyrhYTb2sJw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have found a promising project which allows to integrate python code on
Android and would like to extend your wiki page to share it with wider
audience.

A wiki page is:
https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android

A project is:
https://www.jython.org/

Because non-authorised users can not do this, I share it with you according
to this page <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use> info.

Kind regards,
Dmitry Kazakov <https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmkazakov/>
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From mal at egenix.com  Thu Aug 17 08:51:01 2023
From: mal at egenix.com (Marc-Andre Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 14:51:01 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python on Android wiki page
In-Reply-To: <CAAS_QYdQ9J-bAEqfidfwQ_8oCQho5_YArpOH0v9qyrhYTb2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAS_QYdQ9J-bAEqfidfwQ_8oCQho5_YArpOH0v9qyrhYTb2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Dmitry,

please send us your wiki user name. We can then make you editor and you 
can then make the needed changes.

Thanks.

On 17.08.2023 13:48, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have found a promising project which allows to integrate python code 
> on Android and would like to extend your wiki page to share it with 
> wider audience.
>
> A wiki page is:
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android
>
> A project is:
> https://www.jython.org/
>
> Because non-authorised users can not do this, I share it with you 
> according to this page <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use> info.
>
> Kind regards,
> Dmitry Kazakov <https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmkazakov/>
>
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> pydotorg-www at python.org
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From mats at wichmann.us  Thu Aug 17 10:24:55 2023
From: mats at wichmann.us (Mats Wichmann)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:24:55 -0600
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python on Android wiki page
In-Reply-To: <CAAS_QYdQ9J-bAEqfidfwQ_8oCQho5_YArpOH0v9qyrhYTb2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAS_QYdQ9J-bAEqfidfwQ_8oCQho5_YArpOH0v9qyrhYTb2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <05cb504f-fdb4-f41d-4aec-72e002ab41af@wichmann.us>

On 8/17/23 05:48, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have found a promising project which allows to integrate python code 
> on Android and would like to extend your wiki page to share it with 
> wider audience.
> 
> A wiki page is:
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android>
> 
> A project is:
> https://www.jython.org/ <https://www.jython.org/>
> 
> Because non-authorised users can not do this, I share it with you 
> according to this page <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use> info.

If you do add Jython, perhaps include a note about its status. This is a 
well known implementation mentioned elsewhere on the Python wiki, but 
the project... how to put this politely - "isn't getting a lot of love". 
It's not "dead", that would be too harsh, releases are still being made.

Most of the Python community considers Python 2 a dead language; Jython 
does not run the current Python language specification, called Python 3 
(which has been out for 15 years now).  There is a project in existence 
to make this happen, which includes a substantial revamp of Jython, but 
there's no public indication that it's making any real progress.

The current, possibly outdated, comment inthe FAQ in Jython's own wiki 
(which is hosted by python.org) might be instructive:

https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/GeneralInfo#Can_I_use_Jython_to_make_apps_for_mobile_phones.3F

The python wiki is also discouraging (remember, on wikis, somebody has 
to update information, and for statements of this type, it's hard to 
tell if up to date or not):

"Although Android's primary programming language is Java, there is no 
known port of Jython to the platform. "




From dmitriikazakov at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 10:35:35 2023
From: dmitriikazakov at gmail.com (Dmitry Kazakov)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 17:35:35 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python on Android wiki page
In-Reply-To: <05cb504f-fdb4-f41d-4aec-72e002ab41af@wichmann.us>
References: <CAAS_QYdQ9J-bAEqfidfwQ_8oCQho5_YArpOH0v9qyrhYTb2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
 <05cb504f-fdb4-f41d-4aec-72e002ab41af@wichmann.us>
Message-ID: <CAAS_QYe38buVKyzHHUT=CMbZqCui70Ck6ZBKqi4jP3w9isjOMA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you, Mats. I decided to contribute to wiki because I did some
research on this topic and python wiki looks the most complete one except
of this project. If community doesn't consider it as worthy to try and
avoid it too.

The best tool for my aim is chaquopy, I am exploring it passed an hour.
Sadly, creator actively juggling gradle config files, so I start question
is it worth to integrate.

Context of my task is I have a ml model on python or better to say a python
script which combines several classifiers and I want to quickly integrate
into my Android app. That's why I search today for python integration on
Android options. Android has its own ml kit and conversion tools to tflite
format, but it has its own limitations.

Thanks!

--
Dmitry

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, 17:25 Mats Wichmann, <mats at wichmann.us> wrote:

> On 8/17/23 05:48, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have found a promising project which allows to integrate python code
> > on Android and would like to extend your wiki page to share it with
> > wider audience.
> >
> > A wiki page is:
> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android <
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android>
> >
> > A project is:
> > https://www.jython.org/ <https://www.jython.org/>
> >
> > Because non-authorised users can not do this, I share it with you
> > according to this page <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use>
> info.
>
> If you do add Jython, perhaps include a note about its status. This is a
> well known implementation mentioned elsewhere on the Python wiki, but
> the project... how to put this politely - "isn't getting a lot of love".
> It's not "dead", that would be too harsh, releases are still being made.
>
> Most of the Python community considers Python 2 a dead language; Jython
> does not run the current Python language specification, called Python 3
> (which has been out for 15 years now).  There is a project in existence
> to make this happen, which includes a substantial revamp of Jython, but
> there's no public indication that it's making any real progress.
>
> The current, possibly outdated, comment inthe FAQ in Jython's own wiki
> (which is hosted by python.org) might be instructive:
>
>
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/GeneralInfo#Can_I_use_Jython_to_make_apps_for_mobile_phones.3F
>
> The python wiki is also discouraging (remember, on wikis, somebody has
> to update information, and for statements of this type, it's hard to
> tell if up to date or not):
>
> "Although Android's primary programming language is Java, there is no
> known port of Jython to the platform. "
>
>
>
>
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From mal at egenix.com  Thu Aug 17 11:48:02 2023
From: mal at egenix.com (Marc-Andre Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 17:48:02 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python on Android wiki page
In-Reply-To: <CAAS_QYe38buVKyzHHUT=CMbZqCui70Ck6ZBKqi4jP3w9isjOMA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAS_QYdQ9J-bAEqfidfwQ_8oCQho5_YArpOH0v9qyrhYTb2sJw@mail.gmail.com>
 <05cb504f-fdb4-f41d-4aec-72e002ab41af@wichmann.us>
 <CAAS_QYe38buVKyzHHUT=CMbZqCui70Ck6ZBKqi4jP3w9isjOMA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1f51f133-bb29-41cb-8539-c65aefaebb0f@egenix.com>

To add to what Mats already mentioned:

There are currently at least three efforts for getting better Python 
support on mobiles:

- PyScript which runs Python in a browser, so you can use a web view to 
host it inside an application. This does run some data science code, but 
I'm not sure how far you can get with it.

- BeeWare, which aims to support multiple platforms running Python with 
the same code, including mobiles.

- Kivy, which has a similar goal to BeeWare, but is more focused on 
graphics heavy apps.

I don't think any of these natively integrate into an existing Java app, 
though.

Work on Jython 3 is progressing very slowly. You may want to help out 
here: https://github.com/jython/jython/tree/main



On 17.08.2023 16:35, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> Thank you, Mats. I decided to contribute to wiki because I did some 
> research on this topic and python wiki looks the most complete one 
> except of this project. If community doesn't consider it as worthy to 
> try and avoid it too.
> 
> The best tool for my aim is chaquopy, I am exploring it passed an hour. 
> Sadly, creator actively juggling gradle config files, so I start 
> question is it worth to integrate.
> 
> Context of my task is I have a ml model on python or better to say a 
> python script which combines several classifiers and I want to quickly 
> integrate into my Android app. That's why I search today for python 
> integration on Android options. Android has its own ml kit and 
> conversion tools to tflite format, but it has its own limitations.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --
> Dmitry
> 
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, 17:25 Mats Wichmann, <mats at wichmann.us 
> <mailto:mats at wichmann.us>> wrote:
> 
>     On 8/17/23 05:48, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
>      > Hello,
>      >
>      > I have found a promising project which allows to integrate python
>     code
>      > on Android and would like to extend your wiki page to share it with
>      > wider audience.
>      >
>      > A wiki page is:
>      > https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android
>     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android>
>     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android
>     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android>>
>      >
>      > A project is:
>      > https://www.jython.org/ <https://www.jython.org/>
>     <https://www.jython.org/ <https://www.jython.org/>>
>      >
>      > Because non-authorised users can not do this, I share it with you
>      > according to this page
>     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use
>     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use>> info.
> 
>     If you do add Jython, perhaps include a note about its status. This
>     is a
>     well known implementation mentioned elsewhere on the Python wiki, but
>     the project... how to put this politely - "isn't getting a lot of
>     love".
>     It's not "dead", that would be too harsh, releases are still being made.
> 
>     Most of the Python community considers Python 2 a dead language; Jython
>     does not run the current Python language specification, called Python 3
>     (which has been out for 15 years now).? There is a project in existence
>     to make this happen, which includes a substantial revamp of Jython, but
>     there's no public indication that it's making any real progress.
> 
>     The current, possibly outdated, comment inthe FAQ in Jython's own wiki
>     (which is hosted by python.org <http://python.org>) might be
>     instructive:
> 
>     https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/GeneralInfo#Can_I_use_Jython_to_make_apps_for_mobile_phones.3F <https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/GeneralInfo#Can_I_use_Jython_to_make_apps_for_mobile_phones.3F>
> 
>     The python wiki is also discouraging (remember, on wikis, somebody has
>     to update information, and for statements of this type, it's hard to
>     tell if up to date or not):
> 
>     "Although Android's primary programming language is Java, there is no
>     known port of Jython to the platform. "
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From dmitriikazakov at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 12:13:45 2023
From: dmitriikazakov at gmail.com (Dmitry Kazakov)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 19:13:45 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Python on Android wiki page
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Thank you, Marc-Andre. I looked at Kivy early today and it seems to be for
fully python apps on Android instead of integration with Android
kotlin/java code.

I still exploring possibilities of chaquopy
<https://github.com/chaquo/chaquopy>, so far it looks the most promising
one.

Kind regards,
Dmitry Kazakov <https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmkazakov/>


??, 17 ???. 2023??. ? 18:48, Marc-Andre Lemburg <mal at egenix.com>:

> To add to what Mats already mentioned:
>
> There are currently at least three efforts for getting better Python
> support on mobiles:
>
> - PyScript which runs Python in a browser, so you can use a web view to
> host it inside an application. This does run some data science code, but
> I'm not sure how far you can get with it.
>
> - BeeWare, which aims to support multiple platforms running Python with
> the same code, including mobiles.
>
> - Kivy, which has a similar goal to BeeWare, but is more focused on
> graphics heavy apps.
>
> I don't think any of these natively integrate into an existing Java app,
> though.
>
> Work on Jython 3 is progressing very slowly. You may want to help out
> here: https://github.com/jython/jython/tree/main
>
>
>
> On 17.08.2023 16:35, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> > Thank you, Mats. I decided to contribute to wiki because I did some
> > research on this topic and python wiki looks the most complete one
> > except of this project. If community doesn't consider it as worthy to
> > try and avoid it too.
> >
> > The best tool for my aim is chaquopy, I am exploring it passed an hour.
> > Sadly, creator actively juggling gradle config files, so I start
> > question is it worth to integrate.
> >
> > Context of my task is I have a ml model on python or better to say a
> > python script which combines several classifiers and I want to quickly
> > integrate into my Android app. That's why I search today for python
> > integration on Android options. Android has its own ml kit and
> > conversion tools to tflite format, but it has its own limitations.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > Dmitry
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2023, 17:25 Mats Wichmann, <mats at wichmann.us
> > <mailto:mats at wichmann.us>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 8/17/23 05:48, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> >      > Hello,
> >      >
> >      > I have found a promising project which allows to integrate python
> >     code
> >      > on Android and would like to extend your wiki page to share it
> with
> >      > wider audience.
> >      >
> >      > A wiki page is:
> >      > https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android
> >     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android>
> >     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android
> >     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/Android>>
> >      >
> >      > A project is:
> >      > https://www.jython.org/ <https://www.jython.org/>
> >     <https://www.jython.org/ <https://www.jython.org/>>
> >      >
> >      > Because non-authorised users can not do this, I share it with you
> >      > according to this page
> >     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use
> >     <https://wiki.python.org/moin/FrontPage#use>> info.
> >
> >     If you do add Jython, perhaps include a note about its status. This
> >     is a
> >     well known implementation mentioned elsewhere on the Python wiki, but
> >     the project... how to put this politely - "isn't getting a lot of
> >     love".
> >     It's not "dead", that would be too harsh, releases are still being
> made.
> >
> >     Most of the Python community considers Python 2 a dead language;
> Jython
> >     does not run the current Python language specification, called
> Python 3
> >     (which has been out for 15 years now).  There is a project in
> existence
> >     to make this happen, which includes a substantial revamp of Jython,
> but
> >     there's no public indication that it's making any real progress.
> >
> >     The current, possibly outdated, comment inthe FAQ in Jython's own
> wiki
> >     (which is hosted by python.org <http://python.org>) might be
> >     instructive:
> >
> >
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/GeneralInfo#Can_I_use_Jython_to_make_apps_for_mobile_phones.3F
> <
> https://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/GeneralInfo#Can_I_use_Jython_to_make_apps_for_mobile_phones.3F
> >
> >
> >     The python wiki is also discouraging (remember, on wikis, somebody
> has
> >     to update information, and for statements of this type, it's hard to
> >     tell if up to date or not):
> >
> >     "Although Android's primary programming language is Java, there is no
> >     known port of Jython to the platform. "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > pydotorg-www mailing list
> > pydotorg-www at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www
>
> --
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>
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>
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From rosuav at gmail.com  Fri Aug 25 05:27:02 2023
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 19:27:02 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing PythonConsulting Page
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 at 18:43, Webmaster <webmaster at positiwise.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Team,
>
> We would like to update the PythonConsulting Wiki Page by adding our company, "Positiwise Software," as Pyhon Consultant. We have been offering Web and Software Development Solutions for the past 15 years.
>
>
> Our Company Name: Positiwise Software
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> Company Description to Add: Positiwise Software, a dynamic software & web development firm, delivers a comprehensive range of services. With extensive expertise in .NET, Python, PHP, WordPress, and WooCommerce, we excel in crafting top-notch solutions across industries.
>
> We have created our account with the following name and email address
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>
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
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From webmaster at positiwise.com  Mon Aug 28 04:15:09 2023
From: webmaster at positiwise.com (Webmaster)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 08:15:09 +0000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing PythonConsulting Page
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 at 18:43, Webmaster <webmaster at positiwise.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Team,
>
> We would like to update the PythonConsulting Wiki Page by adding our company, "Positiwise Software," as Pyhon Consultant. We have been offering Web and Software Development Solutions for the past 15 years.
>
>
> Our Company Name: Positiwise Software
> Our Website URL: https://positiwise.com/
> Python Development Page: https://positiwise.com/technologies/python-development
> Company Description to Add: Positiwise Software, a dynamic software & web development firm, delivers a comprehensive range of services. With extensive expertise in .NET, Python, PHP, WordPress, and WooCommerce, we excel in crafting top-notch solutions across industries.
>
> We have created our account with the following name and email address
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Yes, you should be. If you're still having trouble, let us know,
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We would like to update the PythonConsulting<https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonConsulting> Wiki Page by adding our company, "Positiwise Software," as Pyhon Consultant. We have been offering Web and Software Development Solutions for the past 15 years.


Our Company Name: Positiwise Software
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>
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>
> We would like to update the PythonConsulting Wiki Page by adding our company, "Positiwise Software," as Pyhon Consultant. We have been offering Web and Software Development Solutions for the past 15 years.
>

I added the user "Miles Brown" as an editor. Are you able to make edits?

ChrisA