[pydotorg-www] Repeated outages of python.org

[Michael Foord]

On 25/07/2011 11:52, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Michael Foord wrote:
>> On 25/07/2011 10:10, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> Michael Foord wrote:
>>>> On 25/07/2011 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>>>> Could one of the list admins please turn the list archive
>>>>> of the pydotorg-www list into a private one ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it's a good idea to let our setup information leak
>>>>> to the Internnet via search engines.
>>>> The *point* of pydotorg-www is that it is a public list. Private
>>>> information should be sent to pydotorg not pydotorg-www.
>>> I was only talking about the archives, not making it a private
>>> list altogether.
>> Sure, but losing public archives, and the ability to use search engines
>> to search the archives is a big loss.
>>
>> We don't make the archives of other public lists private because someone
>> sent an email they shouldn't have done - in fact we generally refuse to
>> even remove those emails from the archive.
> Right, but this mailing list is special in the sense that it
> discusses an important piece of the Python infrastructure.
>
> Unlike other mailing lists where such leakage usually only has impact
> on the one accidentally sending it, it can cause potential harm to
> the PSF servers in case of this list.

Does the information leaked present a real risk? I have a very strong 
preference for keeping the archives public unless we absolutely have to. 
I'd rather offending messages were scrubbed from the archive than the 
list archives made private.

> BTW: How often do you actually search on this mailing list ?
>

What I often do is browse the archives, having to log in is a nuisance. 
I also link to discussions on the list - making them private effectively 
prevents that as people have to join the  list just to view the 
archives. Occasionally when I can't find a particular discussion I use 
search to find it.

All the best,

Michael Foord

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