From martin at v.loewis.de Tue Feb 1 00:17:04 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:17:04 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> > It seems code.python.org (perhaps other hosts) sometimes has slight network > problems. Users have been reporting problems coding the hg mirrors recently, see > the latest messages on http://mercurial.selenic.com/bts/issue2595 /var/log/messages has occasionally (a few times a day) such messages: Jan 31 22:21:14 dinsdale kernel: [13457235.269759] nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. Jan 31 22:40:36 dinsdale kernel: [13458959.742522] nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. Jan 31 22:41:09 dinsdale kernel: [13459011.771598] nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. In addition, more frequently, we get Jan 31 20:55:45 dinsdale kernel: [13446691.558830] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 79.233.242.14:56632/80 shrinks window 4210464589:4210484917. Repaired. Jan 31 20:55:46 dinsdale kernel: [13446692.713712] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 79.233.242.14:56632/80 shrinks window 4210464589:4210484917. Repaired. Jan 31 20:57:34 dinsdale kernel: [13446956.911520] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 79.233.242.14:56658/80 shrinks window 1608315970:1608334846. Repaired. Jan 31 20:57:34 dinsdale kernel: [13446958.298794] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 79.233.242.14:56658/80 shrinks window 1608315970:1608334846. Repaired. Jan 31 20:57:36 dinsdale kernel: [13446961.222678] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 79.233.242.14:56658/80 shrinks window 1608315970:1608334846. Repaired. Jan 31 21:07:39 dinsdale kernel: [13448395.084188] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 93.140.176.110:57259/80 shrinks window 2077391401:2077394305. Repaired. Jan 31 21:07:39 dinsdale kernel: [13448396.530021] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 93.140.176.110:57259/80 shrinks window 2077391401:2077394305. Repaired. Jan 31 21:08:24 dinsdale kernel: [13448506.672476] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 93.140.176.110:57259/80 shrinks window 2080979293:2080982197. Repaired. Jan 31 21:08:25 dinsdale kernel: [13448508.117862] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 93.140.176.110:57259/80 shrinks window 2080979293:2080982197. Repaired. Jan 31 21:08:32 dinsdale kernel: [13448526.923619] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 93.140.176.110:57259/80 shrinks window 2081894053:2081896957. Repaired. If you can reproduce the problem, please take note and report the exact date and time of the problem (in UTC). Regards, Martin From solipsis at pitrou.net Tue Feb 1 00:29:12 2011 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 00:29:12 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:17:04 +0100 "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > If you can reproduce the problem, please take note and report the > exact date and time of the problem (in UTC). One such occurrence could be: 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:05:45 +0100] "GET /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 HTTP/1.1" 200 5149626 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" (this is not UTC, but DLT - Dinsdale Local Time ;-)) Regards Antoine. From patcam at python.org Tue Feb 1 00:32:26 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:32:26 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- December 2010 In-Reply-To: <20110131195842.GA6321@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> References: <20110131195842.GA6321@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> Message-ID: Thank-you Andrew for posting the approved minutes for Oct-Dec 2010 online. Pat On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:58 PM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:56:52PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online at > > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/ the usual web > locations. > > Done, for Oct-Dec 2010. Sorry for the delay. > > --amk > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Tue Feb 1 00:46:34 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:46:34 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Update PSF Community Awards Webpage - with December 2010 winners In-Reply-To: <20110131200928.GB6321@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> References: <20110131200928.GB6321@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> Message-ID: Thanks Andrew. The webpage looks very nice! Pat On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 3:09 PM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 04:38:03PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Update PSF Community Awards Webpage: Could you please update the ?Python > > Software Foundation Community Awards? at > > http://www.python.org/community/awards/psf-awards/ with the following > update > > information: *December 2010* > > Done. > > --amk > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin at v.loewis.de Tue Feb 1 00:55:19 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:55:19 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? In-Reply-To: <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> Message-ID: <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> Am 01.02.2011 00:29, schrieb Antoine Pitrou: > On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:17:04 +0100 > "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >> If you can reproduce the problem, please take note and report the >> exact date and time of the problem (in UTC). > > One such occurrence could be: > > 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:05:45 +0100] "GET > /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > HTTP/1.1" 200 5149626 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" > > (this is not UTC, but DLT - Dinsdale Local Time ;-)) So what was the problem? Looks like a successful request to me. Regards, Martin From solipsis at pitrou.net Tue Feb 1 00:58:51 2011 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 00:58:51 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:55:19 +0100 "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > Am 01.02.2011 00:29, schrieb Antoine Pitrou: > > On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:17:04 +0100 > > "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > >> If you can reproduce the problem, please take note and report the > >> exact date and time of the problem (in UTC). > > > > One such occurrence could be: > > > > 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:05:45 +0100] "GET > > /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > HTTP/1.1" 200 5149626 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" > > > > (this is not UTC, but DLT - Dinsdale Local Time ;-)) > > So what was the problem? Looks like a successful request to me. No, the transfer size should have been much larger. The hg clone ended up corrupted. A later attempt got the correct full transfer: 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:10:15 +0100] "GET /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 HTTP/1.1" 200 77229968 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" From martin at v.loewis.de Tue Feb 1 01:31:39 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:31:39 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? In-Reply-To: <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> Message-ID: <4D47546B.4040107@v.loewis.de> >>> 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:05:45 +0100] "GET >>> /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 >>> HTTP/1.1" 200 5149626 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" >>> >>> (this is not UTC, but DLT - Dinsdale Local Time ;-)) >> >> So what was the problem? Looks like a successful request to me. > > No, the transfer size should have been much larger. The hg clone ended > up corrupted. A later attempt got the correct full transfer: > > 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:10:15 +0100] > "GET /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > HTTP/1.1" 200 77229968 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" Ah. Could this be a request timeout? How long does the cloning take? There is a global apache timeout of 300s; not sure whether that's relevant. Regards, Martin From solipsis at pitrou.net Tue Feb 1 14:51:46 2011 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:51:46 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> <4D47546B.4040107@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:31:39 +0100 "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > >>> 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:05:45 +0100] "GET > >>> /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > >>> HTTP/1.1" 200 5149626 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" > >>> > >>> (this is not UTC, but DLT - Dinsdale Local Time ;-)) > >> > >> So what was the problem? Looks like a successful request to me. > > > > No, the transfer size should have been much larger. The hg clone ended > > up corrupted. A later attempt got the correct full transfer: > > > > 213.41.240.54 - - [30/Jan/2011:17:10:15 +0100] > > "GET /hg/branches/release2.7-maint/?cmd=changegroup&roots=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > > HTTP/1.1" 200 77229968 "-" "mercurial/proto-1.0" > > Ah. Could this be a request timeout? How long does the cloning take? > There is a global apache timeout of 300s; not sure whether that's > relevant. I don't think so. The cloning just failed again, much quicker: $ time hg clone http://code.python.org/hg/branches/release2.7-maint/ destination directory: release2.7-maint requesting all changes adding changesets adding manifests adding file changes transaction abort! rollback completed abandon?: premature EOF reading chunk (got 2517 bytes, expected 5105) Command exited with non-zero status 255 19.66user 1.01system 0:46.80elapsed 44%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 203504maxresident)k 3648inputs+79040outputs $ LANG=C date Tue Feb 1 14:38:42 CET 2011 Actually, I've just managed to reproduce it from dinsdale itself: $ time hg clone http://code.python.org/hg/branches/release2.7-maint/ destination directory: release2.7-maint requesting all changes adding changesets adding manifests adding file changes transaction abort! rollback completed ** unknown exception encountered, please report by visiting ** http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/BugTracker ** Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jan 24 2010, 14:53:14) [GCC 4.3.2] ** Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 1.7.3) ** Extensions loaded: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/hg", line 38, in mercurial.dispatch.run() File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 16, in run sys.exit(dispatch(sys.argv[1:])) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 36, in dispatch return _runcatch(u, args) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 58, in _runcatch return _dispatch(ui, args) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 590, in _dispatch cmdpats, cmdoptions) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 401, in runcommand ret = _runcommand(ui, options, cmd, d) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 641, in _runcommand return checkargs() File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 595, in checkargs return cmdfunc() File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/dispatch.py", line 588, in d = lambda: util.checksignature(func)(ui, *args, **cmdoptions) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/util.py", line 426, in check return func(*args, **kwargs) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/commands.py", line 736, in clone branch=opts.get('branch')) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/hg.py", line 337, in clone dest_repo.clone(src_repo, heads=revs, stream=stream) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/localrepo.py", line 1886, in clone return self.pull(remote, heads) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/localrepo.py", line 1295, in pull return self.addchangegroup(cg, 'pull', remote.url(), lock=lock) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/localrepo.py", line 1739, in addchangegroup if fl.addgroup(source, revmap, trp) is None: File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/revlog.py", line 1381, in addgroup p1, p2, (chainrev, delta), ifh, dfh) File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/mercurial/revlog.py", line 1220, in _addrevision cachedelta[1]) mpatch.mpatchError: patch cannot be decoded real 1m15.848s user 0m52.479s sys 0m2.120s svn2hg at dinsdale:~/t$ LANG=C date Tue Feb 1 14:45:10 CET 2011 Cloning locally (without network access) succeeds: $ time hg clone --pull /data/home/svn2hg/cpython/public_27-full/ destination directory: public_27-full requesting all changes adding changesets adding manifests adding file changes added 45831 changesets with 99150 changes to 8586 files updating to branch release27-maint 4218 files updated, 0 files merged, 0 files removed, 0 files unresolved real 1m31.074s user 1m26.053s sys 0m3.260s Regards Antoine. From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Feb 1 15:09:39 2011 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:09:39 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? In-Reply-To: <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> References: <4D47546B.4040107@v.loewis.de> <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> Message-ID: <201102011509.39864.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Tuesday 01 February 2011 14:51:46 Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > I don't think so. The cloning just failed again, much quicker: > > $ time hg clone http://code.python.org/hg/branches/release2.7-maint/ > destination directory: release2.7-maint > requesting all changes > adding changesets > adding manifests > adding file changes > transaction abort! > rollback completed > abandon?: premature EOF reading chunk (got 2517 bytes, expected 5105) > Command exited with non-zero status 255 > 19.66user 1.01system 0:46.80elapsed 44%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata > 203504maxresident)k 3648inputs+79040outputs Is it possible to see what you actually receive using something like Wireshark? I did experience repeatable problems viewing pages served by hgwebdir with the repository version of Mercurial a few months ago - the request would hang, and upon a reload I'd get the end of the last response and the start of a new one - but the problem seems to have gone away now. This was hgwebdir + CGI + Apache 2.2 on Ubuntu 8.04. Paul From webmaster at python.org Tue Feb 1 15:19:55 2011 From: webmaster at python.org (Python.org Team) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:19:55 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: on python.org/doc/versions page, click on 3.1.3 gives forbidden error Message-ID: <4D48168B.5050409@python.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: on python.org/doc/versions page, click on 3.1.3 gives forbidden error Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:00:45 -0600 From: Philip Rynes Reply-To: To: *Forbidden* You don't have permission to access /release/3.1.3/ on this server. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ /Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.5.1 mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_wsgi/2.5 Python/2.5.2 Server at docs.python.org Port 80/// -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin at v.loewis.de Tue Feb 1 20:54:31 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:54:31 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? In-Reply-To: <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> <4D47546B.4040107@v.loewis.de> <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> Message-ID: <4D4864F7.70200@v.loewis.de> > Actually, I've just managed to reproduce it from dinsdale itself: So I doubt that it's an issue with the networking configuration; more likely, this looks like a Mercurial bug. Regards, Martin From georg at python.org Tue Feb 1 22:10:30 2011 From: georg at python.org (Georg Brandl) Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:10:30 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: on python.org/doc/versions page, click on 3.1.3 gives forbidden error In-Reply-To: <4D48168B.5050409@python.org> References: <4D48168B.5050409@python.org> Message-ID: <4D4876C6.3070500@python.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Should be fixed now. Georg Am 01.02.2011 15:19, schrieb Python.org Team: > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: on python.org/doc/versions page, click on 3.1.3 gives forbidden error > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:00:45 -0600 > From: Philip Rynes > Reply-To: > To: > > > > *Forbidden* > > You don't have permission to access /release/3.1.3/ on this server. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > /Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) DAV/2 SVN/1.5.1 mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8g mod_wsgi/2.5 > Python/2.5.2 Server at docs.python.org Port 80/// > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1IdsUACgkQN9GcIYhpnLDlWgCfaXgyMfruSd6fNF240w19WnK1 cGMAoJllTyCouzjPQADWw9WwWH7TKItL =PJJ4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From solipsis at pitrou.net Tue Feb 1 23:23:57 2011 From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 23:23:57 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> <4D47546B.4040107@v.loewis.de> <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> <4D4864F7.70200@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <20110201232357.2c3c4508@pitrou.net> On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:54:31 +0100 "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > > Actually, I've just managed to reproduce it from dinsdale itself: > > So I doubt that it's an issue with the networking configuration; > more likely, this looks like a Mercurial bug. Well, at this point it could be an issue anywhere on the host machine, including Mercurial, mod_wsgi, Apache, or the kernel network stack. I've tried to reproduce with Wireshark capturing, but still haven't managed to. Regards Antoine. From techtonik at gmail.com Wed Feb 2 08:27:16 2011 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 09:27:16 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? In-Reply-To: <20110201232357.2c3c4508@pitrou.net> References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> <4D47546B.4040107@v.loewis.de> <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> <4D4864F7.70200@v.loewis.de> <20110201232357.2c3c4508@pitrou.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:54:31 +0100 > "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > >> > Actually, I've just managed to reproduce it from dinsdale itself: >> >> So I doubt that it's an issue with the networking configuration; >> more likely, this looks like a Mercurial bug. > > Well, at this point it could be an issue anywhere on the host machine, > including Mercurial, mod_wsgi, Apache, or the kernel network stack. > > I've tried to reproduce with Wireshark capturing, but still haven't > managed to. Can it be caused by some hacked daemon that tries to capture passwords like it occurred recently with SourceForge? -- anatoly t. From martin at v.loewis.de Wed Feb 2 08:35:34 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 08:35:34 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Connectivity/network problems? In-Reply-To: References: <4D4742F0.7080401@v.loewis.de> <20110201002912.12f6c327@pitrou.net> <4D474BE7.8030909@v.loewis.de> <20110201005851.5d3f4409@pitrou.net> <4D47546B.4040107@v.loewis.de> <20110201145146.42a27dcc@pitrou.net> <4D4864F7.70200@v.loewis.de> <20110201232357.2c3c4508@pitrou.net> Message-ID: <4D490946.9060502@v.loewis.de> > Can it be caused by some hacked daemon that tries to capture passwords > like it occurred recently with SourceForge? Unlikely, we don't use passwords. Regards, Martin From mfoord at python.org Wed Feb 2 17:58:16 2011 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:58:16 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: [Pydotorg] Jython wiki: please block "AutoInsurance" and "lifeinsurance" Message-ID: <4D498D28.5040708@python.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Pydotorg] Jython wiki: please block "AutoInsurance" and "lifeinsurance" Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 10:57:21 -0600 From: skip at pobox.com To: pydotorg at python.org I just deleted two spam pages from the Jython wiki, "lifeinsurance" and "AutoInsurance". They were created by the respectively named users. I can't edit the Jython wiki's BlockedUsersGroup page. Can someone add those two user names to the list on that page? Thx, Skip _______________________________________________ Pydotorg mailing list Pydotorg at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfoord at python.org Thu Feb 3 22:55:25 2011 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:55:25 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Pydotorg] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> References: <20110201094744.GB1745@state-of-mind.de> <20110201092443.55d69bf9@python.org> <20110202233904.GE32136@state-of-mind.de> <20110203095220.GI12879@charite.de> <20110203101501.GF14357@state-of-mind.de> <19786.60415.446205.642258@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20110203182612.GA1712@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B1B03.30907@python.org> <4D4B1B99.5040007@python.org> <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> Message-ID: <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> Hah, you rock. Now I need to change all the subscriptions from mfoord to michael. I don't *use* PGP, so I don't currently have a PGP signature (I used to have the PGP extension for Thunderbird but it caused Thunderbird to grind to a halt whenever I received a signed message). I send email via a webfaction smtp server that isn't under my control (which is why I use it - so I *don't* have to administer it). Can I just send emails from python.org using the python.org smtp server directly? Michael On 03/02/2011 21:35, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * Michael Foord: >>> It really makes sense though to send @python.org mail over the python.org >>> mailserver. Think of it as a small price to pay for such a nice address :) >> Heh. Can I have michael at python.org then? > Your wish is my command. > > Incoming messages for michael at python.org will be routed to > michael at voidspace.org.uk from now on. > > If you want to use mail.python.org as SMTP relay tell me your PGP sig and I'll > send you authentication instructions. > > p at rick > -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From p at python.org Thu Feb 3 23:27:21 2011 From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:27:21 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Pydotorg] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> References: <20110202233904.GE32136@state-of-mind.de> <20110203095220.GI12879@charite.de> <20110203101501.GF14357@state-of-mind.de> <19786.60415.446205.642258@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20110203182612.GA1712@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B1B03.30907@python.org> <4D4B1B99.5040007@python.org> <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> Message-ID: <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> * Michael Foord : > Hah, you rock. Now I need to change all the subscriptions from > mfoord to michael. > > I don't *use* PGP, so I don't currently have a PGP signature (I used > to have the PGP extension for Thunderbird but it caused Thunderbird > to grind to a halt whenever I received a signed message). What's your login on mail.python.org? I can put the credentials in your $HOME. > I send email via a webfaction smtp server that isn't under my > control (which is why I use it - so I *don't* have to administer > it). Can I just send emails from python.org using the python.org > smtp server directly? Yep. That's what me built it for in the first. ;) p at rick From mfoord at python.org Thu Feb 3 23:41:24 2011 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:41:24 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Pydotorg] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> References: <20110202233904.GE32136@state-of-mind.de> <20110203095220.GI12879@charite.de> <20110203101501.GF14357@state-of-mind.de> <19786.60415.446205.642258@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20110203182612.GA1712@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B1B03.30907@python.org> <4D4B1B99.5040007@python.org> <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> Message-ID: <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> On 03/02/2011 22:27, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * Michael Foord: >> Hah, you rock. Now I need to change all the subscriptions from >> mfoord to michael. >> >> I don't *use* PGP, so I don't currently have a PGP signature (I used >> to have the PGP extension for Thunderbird but it caused Thunderbird >> to grind to a halt whenever I received a signed message). > What's your login on mail.python.org? I can put the credentials in your $HOME. > I don't believe I have a login on mail.python.org (yet). All the best, Michael >> I send email via a webfaction smtp server that isn't under my >> control (which is why I use it - so I *don't* have to administer >> it). Can I just send emails from python.org using the python.org >> smtp server directly? > Yep. That's what me built it for in the first. ;) > > p at rick > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From p at python.org Thu Feb 3 23:48:19 2011 From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:48:19 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Pydotorg] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> References: <20110203101501.GF14357@state-of-mind.de> <19786.60415.446205.642258@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20110203182612.GA1712@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B1B03.30907@python.org> <4D4B1B99.5040007@python.org> <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> Message-ID: <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> * Michael Foord : > On 03/02/2011 22:27, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > >* Michael Foord: > >>Hah, you rock. Now I need to change all the subscriptions from > >>mfoord to michael. > >> > >>I don't *use* PGP, so I don't currently have a PGP signature (I used > >>to have the PGP extension for Thunderbird but it caused Thunderbird > >>to grind to a halt whenever I received a signed message). > >What's your login on mail.python.org? I can put the credentials in your $HOME. > > I don't believe I have a login on mail.python.org (yet). But you do have color TV and fridges, do you? ;) p at rick P.S. Sent the credentials to your private (?) mail account. -- Patrick Ben Koetter Python.org Postmaster Team From aahz at pythoncraft.com Thu Feb 3 23:55:35 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:55:35 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> References: <19786.60415.446205.642258@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20110203182612.GA1712@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B1B03.30907@python.org> <4D4B1B99.5040007@python.org> <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> Message-ID: <20110203225535.GA14240@panix.com> So what should those of us who want to send @python.org e-mail from a third-party server do? (E.g. almost all my e-mail comes from panix.com) -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From aahz at pythoncraft.com Fri Feb 4 03:18:43 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 18:18:43 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110203230653.GS21587@state-of-mind.de> References: <4D4B1B03.30907@python.org> <4D4B1B99.5040007@python.org> <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110203225535.GA14240@panix.com> <20110203230653.GS21587@state-of-mind.de> Message-ID: <20110204021843.GA19899@panix.com> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * Aahz : >> >> So what should those of us who want to send @python.org e-mail from a >> third-party server do? (E.g. almost all my e-mail comes from panix.com) > > Follow the instructions I send to barry on the list how he should setup his > server to relay messages through mail.python.org and replace "barry" with > "aahz". You misunderstood: "third-party" means that panix.com is almost completely outside my control (it's my "ISP"). -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From p at python.org Fri Feb 4 07:21:06 2011 From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 07:21:06 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110204021843.GA19899@panix.com> References: <4D4B1B99.5040007@python.org> <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110203225535.GA14240@panix.com> <20110203230653.GS21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110204021843.GA19899@panix.com> Message-ID: <20110204062106.GB1764@state-of-mind.de> * Aahz : > On Fri, Feb 04, 2011, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > > * Aahz : > >> > >> So what should those of us who want to send @python.org e-mail from a > >> third-party server do? (E.g. almost all my e-mail comes from panix.com) > > > > Follow the instructions I send to barry on the list how he should setup his > > server to relay messages through mail.python.org and replace "barry" with > > "aahz". > > You misunderstood: "third-party" means that panix.com is almost > completely outside my control (it's my "ISP"). Indeed, I misunderstood. In this case configure your mail client to use mail.python.org as SMTP server. Either create a second account or add a second outgoing server. Which mail client do you use? p at rick -- Patrick Ben Koetter Python.org Postmaster Team From patcam at python.org Sat Feb 5 20:55:33 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:55:33 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Board Resolutions from October through December 2010 Board Meetings Message-ID: Hi pydotorg: Could you please add the following board resolutions from the October through December 2010 board meeting to this web page: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/ Please see list of board resolutions to be added below: **RESOLVED**, that the PSF buys one Mac Mini Computer, for a total of no more than 1200 USD, to be used for Python Core development; usage details are determined by the Infrastructure Committee. Approved 11-0-0 by IRC vote, 18 October 2010. **RESOLVED**, that Michael Foord receives the PSF Community Service Award Q3 2010. Approved 11-0-0 by IRC vote, 18 October 2010. **RESOLVED**, that the PSF provide a $1250 US grant to help fund sprints at the 2010 SciPy India Conference to be held in Hyderabad between December 13th to the 18th. Approved 5-4-0 by IRC vote, 15 November 2010. **RESOLVED**, that the board recommends Uniblue Systems Ltd. as a pending sponsor member. Approved 8-0-0 by IRC vote, 15 November 2010. **RESOLVED**, that the board approves the modification of the PSF Sprints Committee Charter to allow for the funding of sprints outside of the ?python core? domain. The PSF and Sprint Committee may also accept donations to the PSF to help further fund the sprints project as a whole, but not to specific sprints via donor advisement. Approved 9-0-0 by IRC vote, 15 November 2010. **RESOLVED**, that the PSF will assign the subdomain pl.python.org to Piotr Tynecki and the Polish Python Coders Group, technical details to be arranged by the Infrastructure Committee. Approved 7-0-0 by IRC vote, 15 November 2010. **RESOLVED**, that the PSF pre-finance and underwrites the costs of producing a printed Python brochure as outlined in the proposal http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/psf-board/2010-December/013532.html. Approved 6-5-0 by IRC vote, 20 December 2010. **RESOLVED**, that the PSF provide a grant of $1,000 US to sponsor the Summer pyGames Python based programming competition. Approved 10-0-1 by IRC vote, 20 December 2010. **RESOLVED**, that the 2010-Q4 PSF Community Service Award be awarded to Doug Hellmann and Andrew Kuchling. Approved 10-0-0 by IRC vote, 20 December 2010. Thanks for posting the above resolutions online, If you have any questions, please let me know. Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aahz at pythoncraft.com Sun Feb 6 05:46:52 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 20:46:52 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110204062106.GB1764@state-of-mind.de> References: <4D4B1DAE.8080702@python.org> <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110203225535.GA14240@panix.com> <20110203230653.GS21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110204021843.GA19899@panix.com> <20110204062106.GB1764@state-of-mind.de> Message-ID: <20110206044652.GA2870@panix.com> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * Aahz : >> On Fri, Feb 04, 2011, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >>> * Aahz : >>>> >>>> So what should those of us who want to send @python.org e-mail from a >>>> third-party server do? (E.g. almost all my e-mail comes from panix.com) >>> >>> Follow the instructions I send to barry on the list how he should setup his >>> server to relay messages through mail.python.org and replace "barry" with >>> "aahz". >> >> You misunderstood: "third-party" means that panix.com is almost >> completely outside my control (it's my "ISP"). > > Indeed, I misunderstood. > > In this case configure your mail client to use mail.python.org as SMTP server. > Either create a second account or add a second outgoing server. Which mail > client do you use? mutt, mostly. I can probably figure out how to go through mail.python.org if I need to. (Or just not use aahz at python.org at all; I use it to receive mail more than for sending.) -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From p at python.org Sun Feb 6 09:12:54 2011 From: p at python.org (Patrick Ben Koetter) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:12:54 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110206044652.GA2870@panix.com> References: <20110203213519.GH21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110203225535.GA14240@panix.com> <20110203230653.GS21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110204021843.GA19899@panix.com> <20110204062106.GB1764@state-of-mind.de> <20110206044652.GA2870@panix.com> Message-ID: <20110206081254.GB2022@state-of-mind.de> * Aahz : > > In this case configure your mail client to use mail.python.org as SMTP server. > > Either create a second account or add a second outgoing server. Which mail > > client do you use? > > mutt, mostly. I can probably figure out how to go through > mail.python.org if I need to. (Or just not use aahz at python.org at all; > I use it to receive mail more than for sending.) Probably something along these lines (if you use a decicated folder "pydotorg" and create the message in there): alternates "aahz at pythoncraft\.com|aahz at python\.org" folder-hook pydotorg set envelope_from_address='aahz at python.org' folder-hook pydotorg my_hdr From: Aahz folder-hook pydotorg set smtp_url=smtp://USERNAME at mail.python.org:587/ folder-hook pydotorg set smtp_authenticators="digest-md5:cram-md5" folder-hook pydotorg set smtp_pass='PASSWORD' p at rick -- Patrick Ben Koetter Python.org Postmaster Team From aahz at pythoncraft.com Sun Feb 6 15:17:36 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 06:17:36 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] SPF records for python.org In-Reply-To: <20110206081254.GB2022@state-of-mind.de> References: <4D4B244D.9080601@python.org> <20110203222721.GM21587@state-of-mind.de> <4D4B2F14.4090001@python.org> <20110203224819.GQ21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110203225535.GA14240@panix.com> <20110203230653.GS21587@state-of-mind.de> <20110204021843.GA19899@panix.com> <20110204062106.GB1764@state-of-mind.de> <20110206044652.GA2870@panix.com> <20110206081254.GB2022@state-of-mind.de> Message-ID: <20110206141735.GA12861@panix.com> On Sun, Feb 06, 2011, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: > * Aahz : >>> >>> In this case configure your mail client to use mail.python.org >>> as SMTP server. Either create a second account or add a second >>> outgoing server. Which mail client do you use? >> >> mutt, mostly. I can probably figure out how to go through >> mail.python.org if I need to. (Or just not use aahz at python.org at all; >> I use it to receive mail more than for sending.) > > Probably something along these lines (if you use a decicated folder "pydotorg" > and create the message in there): > > alternates "aahz at pythoncraft\.com|aahz at python\.org" > folder-hook pydotorg set envelope_from_address='aahz at python.org' > folder-hook pydotorg my_hdr From: Aahz > folder-hook pydotorg set smtp_url=smtp://USERNAME at mail.python.org:587/ > folder-hook pydotorg set smtp_authenticators="digest-md5:cram-md5" > folder-hook pydotorg set smtp_pass='PASSWORD' Thanks! That authenticator line is the one I probably would not have figured out quickly, so I appreciate that. -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From amk at amk.ca Sun Feb 6 17:09:15 2011 From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:09:15 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Board Resolutions from October through December 2010 Board Meetings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110206160915.GA28803@new-host.home> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:55:33PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote: > Could you please add the following board resolutions from > the October through December 2010 board meeting to this web page: Added; thanks! --amk From patcam at python.org Sun Feb 6 18:12:19 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 12:12:19 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Board Resolutions from October through December 2010 Board Meetings In-Reply-To: <20110206160915.GA28803@new-host.home> References: <20110206160915.GA28803@new-host.home> Message-ID: Thanks Andrew. Pat On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 02:55:33PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Could you please add the following board resolutions from > > the October through December 2010 board meeting to this web page: > > Added; thanks! > > --amk > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfoord at python.org Tue Feb 8 16:02:00 2011 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:02:00 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: "PyCon registration" page needs updating Message-ID: <4D515AE8.2010004@python.org> Brandon - to get commit access to the website you need to send your ssh keys to pydotorg at python.org along with a request for commit access (and the reason). I'm sure it will be granted. The address for discussing website changes is pydotorg-www. All the best, Michael Foord -------- Original Message -------- Subject: "PyCon registration" page needs updating Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:52:57 -0500 From: Brandon Craig Rhodes To: webmaster at python.org Dear Python webmaster - I am the volunteer PyCon SEO Czar, tracking down highly-rated PyCon links that still point to old PyCons. In this capacity, I note that the first Google hit for "pycon registration" is a page on python.org that sends people to two broken links (is there a link checker that runs against the Python web site?) for PyCon 2008: http://www.python.org/community/pycon/register/ Is there any way that I could get permission to edit that page? I would love the chance to add a quick one-paragraph blurb about PyCon, and to update the links to point to the current PyCon 2011 web site. Thanks! -- Brandon Craig Rhodes brandon at rhodesmill.org http://rhodesmill.org/brandon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brandon at rhodesmill.org Wed Feb 9 18:36:44 2011 From: brandon at rhodesmill.org (Brandon Craig Rhodes) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 12:36:44 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] how to set up redirects Message-ID: <87lj1pcdoz.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> Hey, everyone! As the "SEO Czar" for PyCon 2011, I noticed that the top Google result for "pycon registration" was this ancient page consisting entirely of broken links: http://www.python.org/community/pycon/register/ Mr. Kuchling helped me check out the Python web site source code to learn more about the situation. At first I thought I would just edit the page to provide links to the current PyCon 2011 registration page; but, after looking more closely at the situation, am I now thinking that I should not privilege PyCon North America that way, but should instead ask that all four of the following pages become redirects to either the www.python.org/community/pycon/ page or to www.pycon.org (but which?): /community/pycon/register/ /community/pycon/register-early/ /community/pycon/register-onsite/ /community/pycon/register-regular/ Does anyone else have an opinion about the fate of these old pages, and where they should go today? And: how do we set up redirects on the web site? By checking in a change to a special file that gets copied to an Apache or nginx config? -- Brandon Craig Rhodes brandon at rhodesmill.org http://rhodesmill.org/brandon From patcam at python.org Wed Feb 9 18:54:01 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:54:01 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] =?windows-1252?q?PSF_Members=92_Meeting_Minutes_fo?= =?windows-1252?q?r_February_19=2C_2010?= Message-ID: Hi Pydotorg: Could you please post ?The Python Software Foundation Minutes of the 2010 Members? Meeting February 19, 2010? online at http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/ . The Members Meeting was held at PyCon 2010 in Atlanta, Georgia. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Members_MeetingMin-'10.txt URL: From amk at amk.ca Wed Feb 9 19:01:05 2011 From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:01:05 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] how to set up redirects In-Reply-To: <87lj1pcdoz.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> References: <87lj1pcdoz.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> Message-ID: <20110209180105.GA5721@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:36:44PM -0500, Brandon Craig Rhodes wrote: > Does anyone else have an opinion about the fate of these old pages, and > where they should go today? And: how do we set up redirects on the web > site? By checking in a change to a special file that gets copied to an > Apache or nginx config? The pages are no longer useful, I think. PyCon is not likely to use the PSF's ancient donation CGI, and the PSF is likely to replace it within the next year. The ../register/ could just go to www.pycon.org with a RedirectPermanent, but I think it'll drop out of search indexes quickly once that's done. You can't add redirects through the SVN checkout; someone has to tweak the web server. (build/redirects.txt is long out of date and not used.) --amk From brandon at rhodesmill.org Wed Feb 9 19:03:41 2011 From: brandon at rhodesmill.org (Brandon Craig Rhodes) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 13:03:41 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] how to set up redirects In-Reply-To: <20110209180105.GA5721@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> (A. M. Kuchling's message of "Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:01:05 -0500") References: <87lj1pcdoz.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> <20110209180105.GA5721@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> Message-ID: <87aai5ccg2.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> "A.M. Kuchling" writes: > The pages are no longer useful, I think. Agreed! > The ../register/ could just go to www.pycon.org with a > RedirectPermanent, but I think it'll drop out of search indexes > quickly once that's done. That would be great! I would love for these old pages to disappear and make way for more relevant links, and a permanent redirect that takes care of all existing links to this page is the perfect solution, I think. -- Brandon Craig Rhodes brandon at rhodesmill.org http://rhodesmill.org/brandon From amk at amk.ca Wed Feb 9 19:17:05 2011 From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:17:05 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] how to set up redirects In-Reply-To: <87aai5ccg2.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> References: <87lj1pcdoz.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> <20110209180105.GA5721@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> <87aai5ccg2.fsf@asaph.rhodesmill.org> Message-ID: <20110209181705.GA5934@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 01:03:41PM -0500, Brandon Craig Rhodes wrote: > > The ../register/ could just go to www.pycon.org with a > > RedirectPermanent, but I think it'll drop out of search indexes > > quickly once that's done. Redirection added; /community/pycon/register now goes to www.pycon.org. I noticed that www.python.org/pycon also went to /community/pycon/ ; I've pointed that to www.pycon.org too. This might break some links to old conferences, but maybe not, since all those links are already being redirected by other rewrite rules. --amk From amk at amk.ca Wed Feb 9 19:43:26 2011 From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:43:26 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] =?utf-8?q?PSF_Members=E2=80=99_Meeting_Minutes_for?= =?utf-8?q?_February_19=2C_2010?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110209184326.GA6521@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:54:01PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote: > Could you please post ?The Python Software Foundation Minutes of the 2010 > Members? Meeting February 19, 2010? online at > http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/ . Done! --amk From patcam at python.org Wed Feb 9 23:36:37 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:36:37 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] =?windows-1252?q?PSF_Members=92_Meeting_Minutes_fo?= =?windows-1252?q?r_February_19=2C_2010?= In-Reply-To: <20110209184326.GA6521@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> References: <20110209184326.GA6521@amk-desktop.matrixgroup.net> Message-ID: Thanks Andrew!! Pat On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:43 PM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 12:54:01PM -0500, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Could you please post ?The Python Software Foundation Minutes of the > 2010 > > Members? Meeting February 19, 2010? online at > > http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/ . > > Done! > > --amk > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From patcam at python.org Thu Feb 10 17:53:34 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:53:34 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] =?windows-1252?q?PSF_Members=92_Meeting_Minutes_fo?= =?windows-1252?q?r_February_19=2C_2010?= In-Reply-To: <4D53AC52.7030709@simplistix.co.uk> References: <4D53AC52.7030709@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi Chris: I thought we had nailed this typo downed months ago :). Pat On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Chris Withers wrote: > After being recognized by the chairman of the board, V. Lindberg >> asked if the perspective members and the perspective board members >> > > prospective, surely? > maybe I don't have enough perspective on this... > > Chris > > -- > Simplistix - Content Management, Batch Processing & Python Consulting > - http://www.simplistix.co.uk > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at holdenweb.com Fri Feb 11 09:05:55 2011 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 00:05:55 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Leaving pydotorg Message-ID: <525C4F7B-9B6A-45A5-94EA-1D6AB1C279AA@holdenweb.com> Ladies and gentlemen: This note marks a turning point in my (unpaid) career with the PSF. I have been a subscriber to this list and its predecessor for many years, and in many ways regard it as the engine room of the Foundation. The web is our primary communications channel with the outside world and the main and most trusted source of information in the world about the Python programming language; I imagine that the jobs board is probably the premier place to find professional Python users with all kinds of other skills. Seeing the daily buzz across this channel has kept me in constant touch with the Foundation's vibrant roots, and convinced me even on my down days that my work for the Foundation is worthwhile. The PSF has grown immensely since I first joined, both in numbers and in scope. There have been problems, both financial and organizational, to overcome, and I think we have met those challenges and begun forward progress once more. Personal business (i.e. looking after my own financial interests for a change) mean that I have less time to devote to Foundation affairs. Sadly pydotorg is the channel that occupies most bandwidth. If I were not confident that you are perfectly capable of self-management I would be more concerned about this change, but I believe we have forged the makings of a great editorial team. As the Foundation continues to change and grow I know that you will rise to the challenge of representing its ever-increasing breadth and (I trust) diversity. I hope that technology will eventually emerge that allows us to open the editorial role much more broadly, and to have the website managed by a representative subset of the Python microcosm. Thank you all, for everything you have done and continue to do. You all know where to reach me, and I hope I will continue to hear from you regularly. regards Steve From aahz at pythoncraft.com Fri Feb 11 15:34:56 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 06:34:56 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Leaving pydotorg In-Reply-To: <525C4F7B-9B6A-45A5-94EA-1D6AB1C279AA@holdenweb.com> References: <525C4F7B-9B6A-45A5-94EA-1D6AB1C279AA@holdenweb.com> Message-ID: <20110211143456.GA28011@panix.com> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011, Steve Holden wrote: > > The PSF has grown immensely since I first joined, both in numbers and > in scope. There have been problems, both financial and organizational, > to overcome, and I think we have met those challenges and begun > forward progress once more. Personal business (i.e. looking after > my own financial interests for a change) mean that I have less time > to devote to Foundation affairs. Sadly pydotorg is the channel that > occupies most bandwidth. Thanks for all your work! You won't be missed. ;-) -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From martin at martinthomas.net Fri Feb 11 22:12:11 2011 From: martin at martinthomas.net (Martin Thomas) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:12:11 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Leaving pydotorg In-Reply-To: <525C4F7B-9B6A-45A5-94EA-1D6AB1C279AA@holdenweb.com> References: <525C4F7B-9B6A-45A5-94EA-1D6AB1C279AA@holdenweb.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Steve Holden wrote: > Ladies and gentlemen: > > This note marks a turning point in my (unpaid) career with the PSF. I have > been a subscriber to this list and its predecessor for many years, and in > many ways regard it as the engine room of the Foundation. > > The web is our primary communications channel with the outside world and > the main and most trusted source of information in the world about the > Python programming language; I imagine that the jobs board is probably the > premier place to find professional Python users with all kinds of other > skills. Seeing the daily buzz across this channel has kept me in constant > touch with the Foundation's vibrant roots, and convinced me even on my down > days that my work for the Foundation is worthwhile. > Thanks for everything you have done! //Martin > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From webmaster at python.org Sun Feb 13 15:03:22 2011 From: webmaster at python.org (webmaster at python.org) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:03:22 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Re: Connection problems with IPv6 - persistent for more than a month now Message-ID: <4D57E4AA.70902@python.org> A user having trouble with python.org over ipv6. He assures us he *can* connect to other sites with ipv6 and has provided some diagnostic information. Michael -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Connection problems with IPv6 - persistent for more than a month now Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:49:32 -0500 From: Matthew Roy To: webmaster at python.org I'm pretty sure that this is not a local problem for two reasons. First, your site _is_ reachable - it just isn't responding to HTTP requests sent over IPv6. Second, as you said, I can reach other IPv6 sites just fine: matthew at smilebox:~$ wget -6 www.google.com --2011-02-13 08:37:53-- http://www.google.com/ Resolving www.google.com... 2001:4860:8009::69 Connecting to www.google.com |2001:4860:8009::69|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: `index.html.2' [ <=> ] 8,844 39.8K/s in 0.2s 2011-02-13 08:37:53 (39.8 KB/s) - `index.html.2' saved [8844] matthew at smilebox:~$ wget www.kame.net --2011-02-13 08:48:29-- http://www.kame.net/ Resolving www.kame.net... 2001:200:dff:fff1:216:3eff:feb1:44d7, 203.178.141.194 Connecting to www.kame.net |2001:200:dff:fff1:216:3eff:feb1:44d7|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: `index.html.3' [ <=> ] 3,181 7.94K/s in 0.4s 2011-02-13 08:48:41 (7.94 KB/s) - `index.html.3' saved [3181] I'm 98% sure this problem is on your end - if I had to hazard a guess I'd say your webserver(s) or firewall are silently dropping IPv6 connections to port 80. Could it still be a weird browser or stack issue - sure, they're complicated software and could be mis-configured or have bugs, but can *you* reach the site over IPv6? Matthew On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 07:56, > wrote: Hello Matthew, We've had several reports of IPv6 connection problems in the past. They have *all* turned out to be client difficulties and not problems with python.org . Can you please check connecting to other websites using IPv6. If they work but python.org still fails come back to us. Many thanks, Michael Foord On 12/02/2011 21:46, Matthew Roy wrote: > When connecting over IPv6 all of the python.org > websites timeout - even though name resolution > and connectivity are working: > > matthew at smilebox:~$ wget -4 www.python.org > --2011-02-12 16:39:28-- http://www.python.org/ > Resolving www.python.org ... 82.94.164.162 > Connecting to www.python.org > |82.94.164.162|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 18848 (18K) [text/html] > Saving to: `index.html.1' > > 100%[======================================>] 18,848 > 95.8K/s in 0.2s > > 2011-02-12 16:39:28 (95.8 KB/s) - `index.html.1' saved > [18848/18848] > > matthew at smilebox:~$ wget -6 www.python.org > --2011-02-12 16:39:40-- http://www.python.org/ > Resolving www.python.org ... > 2001:888:2000:d::a2 > Connecting to www.python.org > |2001:888:2000:d::a2|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... > > > Yet we have good DNS entries: > > matthew at smilebox:~$ dig www.python.org ANY > > ; <<>> DiG 9.7.1-P2 <<>> www.python.org > ANY > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11917 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 6, > ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;www.python.org .INANY > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > www.python.org .82745INA82.94.164.162 > www.python.org > .82744INAAAA2001:888:2000:d::a2 > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > org.106654INNSc0.org.afilias-nst.info > . > org.106654INNSa2.org.afilias-nst.info > . > org.106654INNSb0.org.afilias-nst.org > . > org.106654INNSb2.org.afilias-nst.org > . > org.106654INNSd0.org.afilias-nst.org > . > org.106654INNSa0.org.afilias-nst.info > . > > ;; Query time: 0 msec > ;; SERVER: 192.168.2.5#53(192.168.2.5) > ;; WHEN: Sat Feb 12 16:42:20 2011 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 214 > > > > And good connectivity: > > matthew at smilebox:~$ ping6 www.python.org > -c 10 > PING www.python.org > (dinsdale.python.org > ) 56 data bytes > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=126 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=118 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=122 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=135 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=108 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=6 ttl=50 time=101 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=7 ttl=50 time=104 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=8 ttl=50 time=106 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=9 ttl=50 time=101 ms > 64 bytes from dinsdale.python.org > : icmp_seq=10 ttl=50 time=102 ms > > --- www.python.org ping statistics --- > 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9013ms > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 101.504/112.742/135.351/11.542 ms > > > If you need any additional information to help resolve these > issues please let me know. > > Mathew > -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessinghttp://www.sqlite.org/different.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de Sun Feb 13 15:08:08 2011 From: Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de (Ralf Hildebrandt) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 15:08:08 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Re: Connection problems with IPv6 - persistent for more than a month now In-Reply-To: <4D57E4AA.70902@python.org> References: <4D57E4AA.70902@python.org> Message-ID: <20110213140808.GO25340@charite.de> * webmaster at python.org : > A user having trouble with python.org over ipv6. He assures us he > *can* connect to other sites with ipv6 and has provided some > diagnostic information. I'll check, since I'm also using IPv6 :) > I'm 98% sure this problem is on your end - if I had to hazard a guess > I'd say your webserver(s) or firewall are silently dropping IPv6 > connections to port 80. Could it still be a weird browser or stack > issue - sure, they're complicated software and could be > mis-configured or have bugs, but can *you* reach the site over IPv6? $ wget -6 http://python.org --2011-02-13 15:07:03-- http://python.org/ Resolving python.org... 2001:888:2000:d::a2 Connecting to python.org|2001:888:2000:d::a2|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 18848 (18K) [text/html] Saving to: index.html.1' 100%[==============================================================================>] 18.848 37,1K/s in 0,5s 2011-02-13 15:07:03 (37,1 KB/s) - index.html.1' saved [18848/18848] $ head index.html.1 Python Programming Language – Official Website "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> > > > > > > > Python Programming Language– Official Website > > http://www.pycon.org refers to last year: "PyCon 2010 will be in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, from February 19 to 21 (with tutorials on February 17 & 18 and development sprints from February 22 to 25). " -- Carl K From aahz at pythoncraft.com Wed Feb 16 04:50:40 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:50:40 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] http://www.pycon.org out of date In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20110216035040.GC28229@panix.com> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011, Carl Karsten wrote: > > http://www.pycon.org refers to last year: > > "PyCon 2010 will be in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, from February 19 to 21 > (with tutorials on February 17 & 18 and development sprints from > February 22 to 25). " python.org has little to do with pycon.org -- contact pycon-organizers. -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From martin at v.loewis.de Sat Feb 19 00:14:43 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:14:43 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed Message-ID: <4D5EFD63.3070709@v.loewis.de> I have completed the upgrades earlier today. If there is anything broken, please post it here (or fix it yourself if you can). Regards, Martin From merwok at netwok.org Sat Feb 19 00:24:18 2011 From: merwok at netwok.org (=?UTF-8?B?w4lyaWMgQXJhdWpv?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:24:18 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed In-Reply-To: <4D5EFD63.3070709@v.loewis.de> References: <4D5EFD63.3070709@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <4D5EFFA2.4010706@netwok.org> Thanks to the sysadmins for their work. Regards From steve at holdenweb.com Sat Feb 19 00:40:58 2011 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:40:58 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed In-Reply-To: <4D5EFFA2.4010706@netwok.org> References: <4D5EFD63.3070709@v.loewis.de> <4D5EFFA2.4010706@netwok.org> Message-ID: <25536690-48B2-4203-827A-A12995A9A38A@holdenweb.com> On Feb 18, 2011, at 3:24 PM, ?ric Araujo wrote: > Thanks to the sysadmins for their work. > > Regards +1 regards Steve From techtonik at gmail.com Sat Feb 19 08:07:06 2011 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:07:06 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed In-Reply-To: <4D5EFD63.3070709@v.loewis.de> References: <4D5EFD63.3070709@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice. I've changed Wiki theme in preferences to old-python (not sure, but seems it was the last) and now I my account is blocked getting 500 errors while accessing http://wiki.python.org/moin/ BTW, can anybody send me our MoinMoin backup without users data. I want to see how can we hack themes and stuff, and also check if upgrade process didn't miss anything like new plugins, updated interwiki.txt etc. -- anatoly t. On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:14 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > I have completed the upgrades earlier today. If there is anything > broken, please post it here (or fix it yourself if you can). > > Regards, > Martin > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > From martin at v.loewis.de Sat Feb 19 10:21:04 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:21:04 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Upgrades completed In-Reply-To: References: <4D5EFD63.3070709@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <4D5F8B80.1060209@v.loewis.de> Am 19.02.2011 08:07, schrieb anatoly techtonik: > Seems like Wiki was updated to 1.9.3 - nice. I've changed Wiki theme > in preferences to old-python (not sure, but seems it was the last) and > now I my account is blocked getting 500 errors while accessing > http://wiki.python.org/moin/ Please try again; this should be fixed now. Regards, Martin From michael at python.org Mon Feb 21 18:14:27 2011 From: michael at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:14:27 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: python.org website change request Message-ID: <4D629D73.30400@python.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: python.org website change request Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:36:41 -0700 From: Steve Lang To: webmaster at python.org We have changed the home page for our PyIMSL distribution as part of VNI being acquired by Rogue Wave Software and a new website going up, so would it be possible on this page: http://python.org/download/ to change the link associated with the PyIMSL Studio distribution from http://www.vni.com/campaigns/pyimslstudioeval to http://www.roguewave.com/products/imsl-numerical-libraries/pyimsl-studio.aspx No hurry as the old link will forward for some time but for correctness and to avoid confusion it would be good to change. I have changed various wiki.python links to the new address. Thanks! (for all your work on the website) Steve Lang *Steve Lang***|**Senior Project Manager *Rogue Wave Software * 5500 Flatiron Pkwy, Suite 200, Boulder, CO 80301 *P*(303) 545-3258 Steve.Lang at roguewave.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon Feb 21 20:55:11 2011 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:55:11 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: python.org website change request In-Reply-To: <4D629D73.30400@python.org> References: <4D629D73.30400@python.org> Message-ID: <19810.49951.227480.804074@montanaro.dyndns.org> > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: python.org website change request > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:36:41 -0700 > From: Steve Lang > To: webmaster at python.org > We have changed the home page for our PyIMSL distribution as part of > VNI being acquired by Rogue Wave Software and a new website going up, > so would it be possible on this page: > http://python.org/download/ > to change the link associated with the PyIMSL Studio distribution from > http://www.vni.com/campaigns/pyimslstudioeval > to > http://www.roguewave.com/products/imsl-numerical-libraries/pyimsl-studio.aspx Done. Should be up on the website in a few minutes. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ From rdmurray at bitdance.com Fri Feb 25 15:25:32 2011 From: rdmurray at bitdance.com (R. David Murray) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:25:32 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] poor choice of MUA software (was PSF News: PSF Members Meeting to be held at PyCon 2011) In-Reply-To: <0022152d6559135b06049d1bcd69@google.com> References: <0022152d6559135b06049d1bcd69@google.com> Message-ID: <20110225142532.8CBC22394C8@kimball.webabinitio.net> Whatever mail program generated this, it did a *really* crappy job with the text version. On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:11:21 +0000, Python Software Foundation News wrote: > Python Software Foundation News > > /////////////////////////////////////////// > PSF Members Meeting to be held at PyCon 2011 > > Posted: 25 Feb 2011 05:31 AM PST > http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PythonSoftwareFoundationNews/~3/0asjPMHqR-g/psf-members-meeting-to-be-held-at-pycon.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email > > > The Python Software Foundation will hold a meeting for current and > nominated members on March 11, 2011, from 12:30 pm to 1:20 pm local, > in Atlanta, Georgia, USA at the Hyatt Regency Atlanta hotel.Agenda > The agenda for the meeting is still being set. It includes time for > newly nominated members to introduce themselves, and for members > running for the Board of Directors to present their positions. If you > have another topic you would like added to the agenda, please contact > PSF Secretary Pat Campbell before the meeting.Elections > In the past, participants at the meeting elected the new board, > approved new members of the foundation, and conducted other voting in > person. However, last year the PSF switched to an online voting > system. That system will be used again this year, with the ballots > being sent out on Friday, March 25, 2011. > Proposals that need to be voted on by the PSF membership should be > submitted in the form of resolutions. Initial discussions on the > members mailing list is encouraged to craft the language for the > resolution. > The deadline for nomination of new members and proposal of resolutions > to be voted on by the membership is Tuesday, March 22.Call for Nominations > of Directors > Please nominate candidates for the PSF Board of Directors by sending > email to the PSF Board. Self-nominations are welcome. Current > directors should also indicate whether they will stand for election > again. Candidates should post brief bios and position statements in > the PSF wiki.Call for New Member Nominations > New members are nominated to the PSF by current members. To nominate > a regular member, first confirm that they are interested in taking on > the responsibility, and then post your nomination to the members > mailing list. > The prospective member must also complete and submit a membership > application form. > See the PSF Membership FAQ > for details > > > > -- > You are subscribed to email updates from "Python Software Foundation News." > To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now: > http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailunsubscribe?k=axVYCfzGzoDPXNGi8iLmKkCE0oE > > Email delivery powered by Google. > Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 From michael at python.org Fri Feb 25 16:22:44 2011 From: michael at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:22:44 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: broken link in about page Message-ID: <4D67C944.4080302@python.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: broken link in about page Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:15:09 +0100 From: Vivian De Smedt Organization: PSI To: webmaster at python.org Dear Python Web site maintainers, In the About page: http://www.python.org/about/ The embed Python link point to: http://www.python.org/doc/ext/embedding.html where it should probably point to: http://docs.python.org/extending/embedding.html Because the former no longer exist. 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URL: From aahz at pythoncraft.com Fri Feb 25 17:08:09 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:08:09 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] FWD: redirects.txt needed for local builds Message-ID: <20110225160808.GC21256@panix.com> It appears that redirects.txt is used for local builds, not sure what the proper fix should be, so just commented it out. ----- Forwarded message from aahz ----- > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:06:34 +0100 (CET) > From: aahz > To: pydotorg-checkins at python.org > Subject: [Pydotorg-checkins] r13659 - trunk/beta.python.org/build/new-build > Reply-To: pydotorg at python.org > > Author: aahz > Date: Fri Feb 25 17:06:34 2011 > New Revision: 13659 > > Modified: > trunk/beta.python.org/build/new-build/run-server.py > Log: > comment out use of redirects.txt > > Modified: trunk/beta.python.org/build/new-build/run-server.py > ============================================================================== > --- trunk/beta.python.org/build/new-build/run-server.py (original) > +++ trunk/beta.python.org/build/new-build/run-server.py Fri Feb 25 17:06:34 2011 > @@ -71,8 +71,10 @@ > self.end_headers() > return f > > +# redirect file removed, comment this out > +for x in (): > # Read redirect file > -for line in open('redirects.txt', 'r'): > +#for line in open('redirects.txt', 'r'): > # Ignore blank lines > if line.strip() == '': > continue > _______________________________________________ > Pydotorg-checkins mailing list > Pydotorg-checkins at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-checkins ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From doug.hellmann at gmail.com Sat Feb 26 15:09:01 2011 From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:09:01 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] poor choice of MUA software (was PSF News: PSF Members Meeting to be held at PyCon 2011) In-Reply-To: <20110225142532.8CBC22394C8@kimball.webabinitio.net> References: <0022152d6559135b06049d1bcd69@google.com> <20110225142532.8CBC22394C8@kimball.webabinitio.net> Message-ID: <1B96A813-0B45-46EA-B234-CE56A0F83091@gmail.com> On Feb 25, 2011, at 9:25 AM, R. David Murray wrote: > Whatever mail program generated this, it did a *really* crappy > job with the text version. Without the email headers I can't say for sure, but it looks like that came from the feedburner email subscription service for the PSF blog. > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:11:21 +0000, Python Software Foundation News wrote: >> Python Software Foundation News >> >> /////////////////////////////////////////// >> PSF Members Meeting to be held at PyCon 2011 >> >> Posted: 25 Feb 2011 05:31 AM PST >> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/PythonSoftwareFoundationNews/~3/0asjPMHqR-g/psf-members-meeting-to-be-held-at-pycon.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email >> >> >> The Python Software Foundation will hold a meeting for current and >> nominated members on March 11, 2011, from 12:30 pm to 1:20 pm local, >> in Atlanta, Georgia, USA at the Hyatt Regency Atlanta hotel.Agenda >> The agenda for the meeting is still being set. It includes time for >> newly nominated members to introduce themselves, and for members >> running for the Board of Directors to present their positions. If you >> have another topic you would like added to the agenda, please contact >> PSF Secretary Pat Campbell before the meeting.Elections >> In the past, participants at the meeting elected the new board, >> approved new members of the foundation, and conducted other voting in >> person. However, last year the PSF switched to an online voting >> system. That system will be used again this year, with the ballots >> being sent out on Friday, March 25, 2011. >> Proposals that need to be voted on by the PSF membership should be >> submitted in the form of resolutions. Initial discussions on the >> members mailing list is encouraged to craft the language for the >> resolution. >> The deadline for nomination of new members and proposal of resolutions >> to be voted on by the membership is Tuesday, March 22.Call for Nominations >> of Directors >> Please nominate candidates for the PSF Board of Directors by sending >> email to the PSF Board. Self-nominations are welcome. Current >> directors should also indicate whether they will stand for election >> again. Candidates should post brief bios and position statements in >> the PSF wiki.Call for New Member Nominations >> New members are nominated to the PSF by current members. To nominate >> a regular member, first confirm that they are interested in taking on >> the responsibility, and then post your nomination to the members >> mailing list. >> The prospective member must also complete and submit a membership >> application form. >> See the PSF Membership FAQ >> for details >> >> >> >> -- >> You are subscribed to email updates from "Python Software Foundation News." >> To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now: >> http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailunsubscribe?k=axVYCfzGzoDPXNGi8iLmKkCE0oE >> >> Email delivery powered by Google. >> Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www From patcam at python.org Sat Feb 26 17:29:27 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:29:27 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Bugglet in one of the published resolutions In-Reply-To: <4D690048.4010103@egenix.com> References: <4D690048.4010103@egenix.com> Message-ID: Hi Pydotorg: Could you please add the missing information from the board resolution page at http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/. Please insert Brett Cannon's name in the resolution on the web page just like the resolution below: RESOLVED, that the PSF offers a USD 4,500 grant to Brett Cannon to work full-time for a period of two months on Python core development as outlined in the proposal PDF ( http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/psf-board/attachments/20100614/62bbf3b8/attachment-0001.pdf). If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Pat On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 8:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Hi Pat, > > the resolution for Brett Cannon is missing his name: > > RESOLVED, that the PSF offers a USD 4,500 grant to work full-time for a > period of two months on Python core development as outlined in the proposal > PDF ( > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/psf-board/attachments/20100614/62bbf3b8/attachment-0001.pdf). > > See http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/ > > Thanks, > -- > Marc-Andre Lemburg > eGenix.com > > Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Feb 26 2011) > >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ > >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ > >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::: > > > eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 > D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg > Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 > http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Sun Feb 27 00:16:20 2011 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:16:20 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] copyrights in the wiki? Message-ID: <19817.35268.44362.862396@montanaro.dyndns.org> Do we care about people adding copyrights to wiki pages (or the code therein)? http://wiki.python.org/moin/State%20Machine%20via%20Decorators Skip From paul at boddie.org.uk Sun Feb 27 00:31:02 2011 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:31:02 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] copyrights in the wiki? In-Reply-To: <19817.35268.44362.862396@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <19817.35268.44362.862396@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <201102270031.02487.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Sunday 27 February 2011 00:16:20 skip at pobox.com wrote: > Do we care about people adding copyrights to wiki pages (or the code > therein)? > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/State%20Machine%20via%20Decorators In this case, it makes more sense for the code to be attached. If it then has copyright and licence information, which is arguably desirable, then this is not really a problem. What is more of a problem is when such information is added to a page without being clear what the scope of the "claim" is, although the revision history can help us to figure that out. There's never been a copyright/licensing policy on the Python Wiki as long as I've had anything to do with it, probably leading to some initiatives being abandoned because of this. For example: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonCdWiki What one should do to remedy this situation, if that is considered necessary in order to let the content be delivered by other means, is rather unclear. Paul From aahz at pythoncraft.com Sun Feb 27 04:41:03 2011 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:41:03 -0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Bugglet in one of the published resolutions In-Reply-To: References: <4D690048.4010103@egenix.com> Message-ID: <20110227034103.GA27109@panix.com> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Could you please add the missing information from the board resolution page > at > > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/. > > Please insert Brett Cannon's name in the resolution on the web page just > like the resolution below: > > RESOLVED, that the PSF offers a USD 4,500 grant to Brett Cannon to work > full-time for a period of two months on Python core development as outlined > in the proposal PDF ( > http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/psf-board/attachments/20100614/62bbf3b8/attachment-0001.pdf). Done! -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "Programming language design is not a rational science. Most reasoning about it is at best rationalization of gut feelings, and at worst plain wrong." --GvR, python-ideas, 2009-03-01 From martin at v.loewis.de Sun Feb 27 07:40:17 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:40:17 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] copyrights in the wiki? In-Reply-To: <201102270031.02487.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <19817.35268.44362.862396@montanaro.dyndns.org> <201102270031.02487.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <4D69F1D1.6050503@v.loewis.de> > What one should do to remedy this situation, if that is considered necessary > in order to let the content be delivered by other means, is rather unclear. I personally think there is no need to remedy this situation. You can't put the Wiki page onto a CD without permission of all authors, period. So it is impractical to actually attempt that, and I think this is how it should be, also. Regards, Martin From mal at egenix.com Sun Feb 27 11:23:09 2011 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:23:09 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Bugglet in one of the published resolutions In-Reply-To: <20110227034103.GA27109@panix.com> References: <4D690048.4010103@egenix.com> <20110227034103.GA27109@panix.com> Message-ID: <4D6A260D.1000001@egenix.com> Aahz wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011, Pat Campbell wrote: >> >> Could you please add the missing information from the board resolution page >> at >> >> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/. >> >> Please insert Brett Cannon's name in the resolution on the web page just >> like the resolution below: >> >> RESOLVED, that the PSF offers a USD 4,500 grant to Brett Cannon to work >> full-time for a period of two months on Python core development as outlined >> in the proposal PDF ( >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/psf-board/attachments/20100614/62bbf3b8/attachment-0001.pdf). > > Done! Thank you. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Feb 27 2011) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try our new mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ From patcam at python.org Sun Feb 27 16:53:55 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:53:55 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Bugglet in one of the published resolutions In-Reply-To: <20110227034103.GA27109@panix.com> References: <4D690048.4010103@egenix.com> <20110227034103.GA27109@panix.com> Message-ID: Thanks Aahz. Pat On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Aahz wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011, Pat Campbell wrote: > > > > Could you please add the missing information from the board resolution > page > > at > > > > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/. > > > > Please insert Brett Cannon's name in the resolution on the web page just > > like the resolution below: > > > > RESOLVED, that the PSF offers a USD 4,500 grant to Brett Cannon to work > > full-time for a period of two months on Python core development as > outlined > > in the proposal PDF ( > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/psf-board/attachments/20100614/62bbf3b8/attachment-0001.pdf > ). > > Done! > -- > Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> > http://www.pythoncraft.com/ > > "Programming language design is not a rational science. 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