[Pydotorg-redesign] Draft HTML for redesign proposal

[Laura Creighton]

In a message of Mon, 13 Oct 2003 01:30:48 BST, Matt Goodall writes:
>It depends what you're using. GNOME 2.2 has a built in screenshot 
>utility (available as a panel button), KDE has something called 
>ksnapshot, Imagemagick includes a command line app called import.

Ksnapshot it is, then
>
>>Is this how I ask my mozilla to tell me what version it is so I can tell
>>you?  about: under help menu says ...
>>
>>Mozilla 1.0
>>Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/
>1.0.0-0.woody.1
>>
>Wow, are you really using Debian Stable? I thought everyone immediately 
>switched to testing ;-).

Well, at work, I use unstable.  But this is my laptop, which has to
work on airplanes, trains, and other places where I cannot just
get the odd file when something breaks ....

>
>This must be a Mozilla 1.0 problem as the page works ok in 1.4 and seems 
>to work ok in 1.1 and 1.3. I may be able to install 1.0 to help Tim but 
>is it honestly worth it? Anyone know how many Moz 1.0 users the site gets
>?

Don't do it for me -- or for the can opener.
>
>[snip]
>
>>But now I need bed more than anything else.
>>
>Me too!
>
>Cheers, Matt

Ok, awake now.

Here are 2 pngs, the first from my laptop mozilla, the second from my
laptop konqueror.

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And I think I understand what is happening.  Tim has made something I
am going to call a Google-widget.  It is that pretty grey box with the
Google advertising and Search and the Go button, and of course the
all important text window.  Now, as far as I am concerned, anything
but the Go button and the text window is 'chart junk'.  (for those
of you who are reading this, and haven't read Tufte, I am being
constructively critical here.  And reading Tufte is a joy).  However,
'Google' is a legal requirement, and, I don't know, maybe there are some
people on the planet who don't recognise a search window when they see it.

My problem is that Tim's Google-widget is of fixed size.  You resize
the window, and the Google widget moves back and forth, stuck to the
right hand border of the window, and eating up the space between the
'Python' and its left most border as needed.  I want a different
Google-widget, one that automatically sizes its text window to take up
all the space that is available.  I want the left most border of the
Google-widget glued to some space just to the right of 'Python' the logo,
the right most border glued to the rhs, wherever that is, and the whole
thing to float in width as I resize it.

That way I can paste things like:

     'Haskell monadic modular interpreters'

into the window, and see whether we have had a discussion about them
someplace, before I start another round of 'making Python more
Haskell-like' or whatever is my favorite poison of the moment.  (I am
assuming that I will get to access the mailing lists via this
Google-widget as well, and I think that a 'advanced search' click link
for people who only want to search the mailing lists, say, would be
useful.)

Am I making any sense?

Laura