From kwadroke at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 20:00:38 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:00:38 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Next Meeting (or meeting Schedule) Message-ID: When do we want to meet next? Are we going to continue to meet the same day as CARLUG? I am finally programming some Python for a project (screenshot @ hotair.kwadrix.com) and I am still trying to grasp some of the concepts and modules. -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com Arkansas Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com From gslindstrom at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 20:07:25 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:07:25 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Next Meeting (or meeting Schedule) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmmm...summer is always tough, isn't it? I'm willing to meet with or after CARLUG, or any other time. The Python conference, pyArkansas, is a go for October 10th. I'm trying to put a budget together so we can do some mailings to the local schools. I'd also like to show off what I'm doing with Django. I may even have a web page up, soon! Lastly, can you add PyAR^2 to your arkansasgeekcentral page? --greg On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Kwadroke of The Wired wrote: > When do we want to meet next? Are we going to continue to meet the > same day as CARLUG? > > I am finally programming some Python for a project (screenshot @ > hotair.kwadrix.com) and I am still trying to grasp some of the > concepts and modules. > > -- > Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > > Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org > Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org > Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com > Arkansas Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Tue Jun 10 22:47:44 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:47:44 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Next Meeting (or meeting Schedule) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: When is the CARLUG meeting? chad -----Original Message----- From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg Lindstrom Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:07 PM To: Kwadroke of The Wired Cc: pyar2 at python.org Subject: Re: [PyAR2] Next Meeting (or meeting Schedule) Hmmm...summer is always tough, isn't it? I'm willing to meet with or after CARLUG, or any other time. The Python conference, pyArkansas, is a go for October 10th. I'm trying to put a budget together so we can do some mailings to the local schools. I'd also like to show off what I'm doing with Django. I may even have a web page up, soon! Lastly, can you add PyAR^2 to your arkansasgeekcentral page? --greg On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Kwadroke of The Wired wrote: > When do we want to meet next? Are we going to continue to meet the > same day as CARLUG? > > I am finally programming some Python for a project (screenshot @ > hotair.kwadrix.com) and I am still trying to grasp some of the > concepts and modules. > > -- > Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > > Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org > Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com Arkansas > Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > _______________________________________________ PyAR2 mailing list PyAR2 at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. From kwadroke at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 23:02:53 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:02:53 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Next Meeting (or meeting Schedule) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Chad Cooper wrote: > When is the CARLUG meeting? > > chad > > -----Original Message----- > From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On > Behalf Of Greg Lindstrom > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:07 PM > To: Kwadroke of The Wired > Cc: pyar2 at python.org > Subject: Re: [PyAR2] Next Meeting (or meeting Schedule) > > Hmmm...summer is always tough, isn't it? I'm willing to meet with or > after CARLUG, or any other time. > > The Python conference, pyArkansas, is a go for October 10th. I'm trying > to put a budget together so we can do some mailings to the local > schools. > > I'd also like to show off what I'm doing with Django. I may even have a > web page up, soon! > > Lastly, can you add PyAR^2 to your arkansasgeekcentral page? > > --greg > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Kwadroke of The Wired > wrote: >> When do we want to meet next? Are we going to continue to meet the >> same day as CARLUG? >> >> I am finally programming some Python for a project (screenshot @ >> hotair.kwadrix.com) and I am still trying to grasp some of the >> concepts and modules. >> >> -- >> Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired >> Red Hat Certified Engineer >> >> >> Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org > >> Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com Arkansas >> Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com >> _______________________________________________ >> PyAR2 mailing list >> PyAR2 at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 >> > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > > Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the > addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, > you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from > your system. > The next CARLUG meeting is June 21 at 10:00am -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com Arkansas Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com From kwadroke at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 06:56:27 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:56:27 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] PyGTK and canceling downloads Message-ID: I have written a PyGTK program that downloads files off the internet using urllib.urlretrieve. The downloading works fine, but I'm having a hard time finding out how to cancel the download as it is running. I'm wanting the user to be able to hit cancel on a GUI and stop the download. I've searched Google with no success. Any ideas or docs someone can point me to? I figured out how to interact with gtk to accept button presses, but, I can't figure out how to actually stop urlretrieve from pulling down the file. -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com Arkansas Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com From srilyk at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 14:08:45 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:08:45 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] PyGTK and canceling downloads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <333efb450806110508r9032facq57f9d8e0d779a211@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Kwadroke of The Wired wrote: > I have written a PyGTK program that downloads files off the internet > using urllib.urlretrieve. The downloading works fine, but I'm having a > hard time finding out how to cancel the download as it is running. > I'm wanting the user to be able to hit cancel on a GUI and stop the > download. I've searched Google with no success. Any ideas or docs > someone can point me to? > I figured out how to interact with gtk to accept button presses, but, > I can't figure out how to actually stop urlretrieve from pulling down > the file. I'm not 100% sure on this - I've done a few things with pyGTK, so I'm sortof familiar. The first thing I would try is just create a keyboard interrupt method for stopping the download. I *think* it might work similar to what would happen if you ctrl-c'ed a command line run of it. Another option is using sockets, and creating a "hidden" window - basically just don't run the .show() So, for instance, you would have your main window, whatever you call that, and then another window that contains the urlretrieve method. When you click "download" in the main window it would send a signal, via sockets, to your hidden window. This hidden window would then start the actual download. If you're using a progress meter it would report back, via socket, to the main window. Then when you clicked on "cancel", it would emit the destroy signal to that window, which I *think* should take care of the urlretrieve. I'm not 100% sure on that, though. Hopefully one of those methods work, or at least points you in the right direction. If neither of those work, threading will probably be the way to go, but I have a really dim concept of putting threading into practice :P HTH, Wayne From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Thu Jun 19 16:33:53 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:33:53 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Free online Python books Message-ID: http://linkmingle.com/list/List-of-Free-Online-Python-Books-freebooksand articles Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kwadroke at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 17:32:35 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:32:35 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting Saturday? Message-ID: CARLUG is meeting this Saturday. Are we still meeting then? -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com Arkansas Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Thu Jun 19 18:20:17 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:20:17 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting Saturday? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm out, I have a family wedding this weekend. chad -----Original Message----- From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Kwadroke of The Wired Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:33 AM To: pyar2 at python.org Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting Saturday? CARLUG is meeting this Saturday. Are we still meeting then? -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com Arkansas Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com _______________________________________________ PyAR2 mailing list PyAR2 at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. From srilyk at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 19:18:17 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:18:17 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting Saturday? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <333efb450806191018l3ab61253k5bcf832ea20bc95e@mail.gmail.com> I'm in Seattle... On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > I'm out, I have a family wedding this weekend. > > chad > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On > Behalf Of Kwadroke of The Wired > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:33 AM > To: pyar2 at python.org > Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting Saturday? > > CARLUG is meeting this Saturday. Are we still meeting then? > > -- > Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > > Arkansas Linux Users Groups: hsalug.org carlug.org lrlug.org arlug.org > Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org > Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com > Arkansas Geek Central: arkansasgeekcentral.com > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > > Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the > addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, > you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from > your system. > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi From gslindstrom at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 01:28:04 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:28:04 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] pyArkansas 2008 Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I've been running under the radar for a few weeks, but am still excited about us putting on a Python "Mini Conference" in October (October 4th, if memory serves). UCA has been nothing short of gracious in allowing us to host this on their campus, so "thanks" to all of you for helping out. I have spoken with other Python User Groups and none of them have had the same experience. Hopefully, this will be a win-win situation; we can get lots of good publicity for Python and UCA at the same time. Anyhow, in a very rough brush, this is what I have in mind; It will run from 9AM-3PM (maybe 4PM). This would give us a couple of sessions; morning and afternoon), with a lunch break. Do we know if the UCA cafeteria will be open and, if so, available for our participants to use? Should we try to come up with a sponsor for lunch? We have 2 (or 3?) rooms per session. Certainly, one session should be an "introduction to Python" or "Python 101" class, as I am planning on sending fliers to local high schools and Colleges/Universities. I could see this class spanning both sessions. Many on the list asked for information on packages/modules. I'm not sure if they were asking about how to use modules and packages or how to write their own (if you are out there reading this, please let me know!). I'd like to show off the Django web framework (maybe someone else is better suited for it!). What other classes might be cool? Do we set up "open space" for people to get up and show off their cool stuff(tm)? I'd like to end the day with a short "keynote". I believe that one of the new UCA faculty is doing research using Python (I do not believe Python is the focus of the research). It would be nice, IMHO, to have someone show that this is a serious programming language that is being used. We could also have door prizes; O"Reilley will send us books and Elegant Stitches will give us some polo shirts to give away. Concerning Elegant Stitches; for those of you that don't know, it is my wife's home-based (for now) business. For the last three years we have offered shirts and such with the Python logo -- with the blessing of the Python Software Foundation -- at PyCon. We are going to be at pyOhio later next month and, hopefully, at OSCON in 2010. We just got word from OSCON that a table costs $5,000.00 and an entry in the swag bag is $1,500.00! You can see our work on the web at www.wearpython.com. Is there an issue with having vendors at pyArkasas? I guess that's a question for our UCA friends. We might be able to get O'Reilley down here if there is room for them and the University allows it. Who can I ask for funding? Does Acxiom still donate to such causes? Who do I write? The PSF might send us some $$, too, but I'd really like to keep this local. I'm starting to put together a budget and thing we can do this for under $1000.00 (mostly promotion; printing and mailing). And finally, if this goes well, do we want to try something similar "up North" in the Spring? Let me know what you think and any ideas you have. This is *our* conference (not mine :-). --greg From srilyk at gmail.com Thu Jun 26 17:48:49 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:48:49 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] pyArkansas 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <333efb450806260848i272db59ap1c18b8c1f91a94a9@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Greg Lindstrom wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > It will run from 9AM-3PM (maybe 4PM). This would give us a couple of > sessions; morning and afternoon), with a lunch break. Do we know if > the UCA cafeteria will be open and, if so, available for our > participants to use? Should we try to come up with a sponsor for > lunch? I'm not sure about the Christian Cafeteria, but I'm fairly certain the Student Center food court will be open by then (currently under some extensive remodeling). > We have 2 (or 3?) rooms per session. Certainly, one session should be > an "introduction to Python" or "Python 101" class, as I am planning on > sending fliers to local high schools and Colleges/Universities. I > could see this class spanning both sessions. Perhaps for the beginner session(s?) we could do a two part (or more?) series. In the introduction it might be nice to show some of the larger projects that are written in python. And probably mention some games as well. Perhaps in that session we could do some small hands-on projects (i.e. "Hello World", loops, etc.), and then the next class could put it all together with some more hands on stuff, maybe using functions, etc. > Many on the list asked for information on packages/modules. I'm not > sure if they were asking about how to use modules and packages or how > to write their own (if you are out there reading this, please let me > know!). For me, both! (I have a basic idea, but it would be helpful to have someone with more knowledge/experience explain it) > I'd like to show off the Django web framework (maybe someone > else is better suited for it!). What other classes might be cool? Do > we set up "open space" for people to get up and show off their cool > stuff(tm)? Maybe we could do that during/after lunch? Have an "Eat and Greet" type deal, where we can meet the programmers and see/use their projects. > I'd like to end the day with a short "keynote". I believe that one of > the new UCA faculty is doing research using Python (I do not believe > Python is the focus of the research). It would be nice, IMHO, to have > someone show that this is a serious programming language that is being > used. We could also have door prizes; O"Reilley will send us books > and Elegant Stitches will give us some polo shirts to give away. > > And finally, if this goes well, do we want to try something similar > "up North" in the Spring? My guess is that if there are enough people who show up here, we'd have a similar turn out "up North" > Let me know what you think and any ideas you have. This is *our* > conference (not mine :-). I don't know if any professors/teachers would be willing to offer extra credit to attend, but if they're willing, I'm sure that may increase attendance by at least 5-10% (I've witnessed the laziness of students, and participated in it myself. I'm fairly certain 5-10% fits nicely into a bell curve.) I know I'm looking forward to it! -Wayne