From betsy at python.org Wed Sep 9 19:42:20 2015 From: betsy at python.org (Betsy Waliszewski) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 10:42:20 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] PSF Sponsored Event: nginx.conf 2015 Message-ID: Hello Pythonistas! The PSF is sponsoring the upcoming nginx.conf 2015 - a conference for people who want to discover how to deliver their sites and apps with performance, security, and scale. It?s happening September 22-24, 2015 in San Francisco. We have three tickets to give away to our members, on a first-come, first-served basis. We also have a 30% discount registration code for our members. If you?re interested in one of the tickets or the discount code, please email me at: betsy at python.org. https://www.nginx.com/nginxconf/ Cheers, Betsy -- Betsy Waliszewski Python Software Foundation Event Coordinator / Administrator @betswaliszewski -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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St?phane -- St?phane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise From diana.joan.clarke at gmail.com Wed Sep 16 02:47:59 2015 From: diana.joan.clarke at gmail.com (Diana Clarke) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:47:59 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] PSF Board Meeting Minutes - 2015-08-11 Message-ID: Hi folks: The PSF board meeting minutes from August 11th, 2015 are now available online: https://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2015-08-11/ The following grants (https://www.python.org/psf/grants/) were approved since the last meeting, totalling $8,350 USD. - Django Girls Seattle Workshop https://djangogirls.org/seattle/ Seattle, USA August 7 & 8, 2015 Amount: $630 USD - PyConZA 2015 https://za.pycon.org/ Johannesburg, South Africa October 1 - 4, 2015 Amount: $1,970 USD - Django Girls Krakow Workshop https://djangogirls.org/krakow/ Krakow, Poland August 23, 2015 Amount: $750 USD - South America Outreach & Education by Manuel Kaufmann, Grant #2 Amount: $5,000 USD The PSF also hired a new Event Coordinator/Administrator: Betsy Waliszewski, and promoted Ewa Jodlowska to Director of Operations. Welcome to the team Betsy, and congratulations on your well deserved promotion Ewa! For more updates from the PSF, please visit our blog and follow us on Twitter. https://twitter.com/ThePSF https://pyfound.blogspot.com/ Cheers, --diana From betsy at python.org Wed Sep 16 22:32:42 2015 From: betsy at python.org (Betsy Waliszewski) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:32:42 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] PSF Hosted Sprints at SF Python Project Night October 21 Message-ID: Hi, The PSF is hoping to host a collaborative event with the San Francisco User Group October 21. We are looking for PSF members in the bay area who are willing to be at the meet up on October 21st at 6pm to host a python related sprint project. If you are interested, please contact me before September 28th. Cheers, Betsy -- Betsy Waliszewski Python Software Foundation Event Coordinator / Administrator @betswaliszewski -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From diana.joan.clarke at gmail.com Sat Sep 19 00:21:05 2015 From: diana.joan.clarke at gmail.com (Diana Clarke) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 18:21:05 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] Contents of PSF-Community Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Martin: You'll need to contact the ConFoo organizers directly. Don't forget to submit a proposal before the Sept 20th deadline. Good luck! http://confoo.ca/en/call-for-papers http://confoo.ca/en/contact Have a great weekend! Cheers, --diana On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Martin Nwachukwu wrote: > 1. The ConFoo Conference is looking for Python speakers > > Good day, > > I would like to be be amongst the Python speakers, if possible. If you don't > mind, please furnish me with the details of what I need to do or know. > > I live and work in Nigeria and I develop full time with Flask in my day's > job. > > Thanks. > > iChux? > http://bit.ly/iscrape > Behind every no entry sign, there is a door. From humitos at gmail.com Sat Sep 19 03:24:59 2015 From: humitos at gmail.com (Manuel Kaufmann) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 21:24:59 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] Presentations Message-ID: <55FCB96B.6040807@gmail.com> Hi all! I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one "official" mailing list. So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to meet each other? (maybe I missed that) If you don't start yet with this, I will start with myself: I'm Manuel Kaufmann, from Argentina. I belong to the Python Argentina community since 2006 when I met Python thanks to Facundo Batista and Lucio Torre at Santa Fe, Argentina on a PyDay organized by the Python Argentina community. I fell in love with it immediately :D After that day I start studying Python a lot and some months later it became my paid work for more than 8 years now. Tired of work and looking for something more social (I worked remotely all the time) I started a project called "Argentina en Python"[1] to share Python with all the people that I meet on the trip: I travel by car around different countries now. Delivering courses, lectures and organizing this kind of amazing PyDay events was my "excuse" to keep traveling and shared what I learned from the PyAr community and... for free! That was 2 years ago, when I started with this project. Now, we (I met a Fortran-Girl-Developer on my trip, and a Python-Girl-Developer now ;) ) are in Copacabana, Bolivia with this project. In the next days we are going to Per?. You can find a lot of information on its website. Most of my professional and personal life is based on Python and its community, so this is a good opportunity to say: THANK YOU PEOPLE! Let's keep rocking together! ;D [1] http://argentinaenpython.com.ar/ -- Kaufmann Manuel -- http://elblogdehumitos.com.ar/ From ewa at python.org Sun Sep 20 01:10:30 2015 From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 16:10:30 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] Presentations In-Reply-To: <55FCB96B.6040807@gmail.com> References: <55FCB96B.6040807@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Manuel Kaufmann wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think > it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one > "official" mailing list. > > So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to > meet each other? (maybe I missed that) > Hi Manuel, You did not miss any presentations, but I think this is a great idea. Thank you for initiating it! Members - please feel free to send in introductions about yourself. 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Greetings. -- https://profiles.google.com/cherny.berbesi > On Sep 19, 2015, at 17:10, Ewa Jodlowska wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Manuel Kaufmann > wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one "official" mailing list. > > So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to meet each other? (maybe I missed that) > > Hi Manuel, > > You did not miss any presentations, but I think this is a great idea. Thank you for initiating it! > > Members - please feel free to send in introductions about yourself. Knowing who is behind this mailing list will only make it that much more valuable to our community! > > Best regards, > > Ewa > Director of Operations > Python Software Foundation > Cell: 415-319-5237 > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From masnun at gmail.com Sun Sep 20 20:20:37 2015 From: masnun at gmail.com (Abu Ashraf Masnun) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600 Subject: [PSF-Community] Presentations In-Reply-To: References: <55FCB96B.6040807@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: http://pybd.org - but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time :) Regards, Masnun On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 5:33 AM, "Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan)" < cherny.berbesi at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi members, > > I was seeing a little bit the Argentina community and is awesome :-) > > In my case, I?m starting a small community in Costa Rica and I hope to get > the attention from a lot of students here. Feel free to drop me a message > if you are planning to visit on Costa Rica anytime (if you are already in > CR please join us!). > > Greetings. > > -- > https://profiles.google.com/cherny.berbesi > > On Sep 19, 2015, at 17:10, Ewa Jodlowska wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Manuel Kaufmann > wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think >> it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one >> "official" mailing list. >> >> So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to >> meet each other? (maybe I missed that) >> > > Hi Manuel, > > You did not miss any presentations, but I think this is a great idea. > Thank you for initiating it! > > Members - please feel free to send in introductions about yourself. > Knowing who is behind this mailing list will only make it that much more > valuable to our community! > > Best regards, > > Ewa > Director of Operations > Python Software Foundation > Cell: 415-319-5237 > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lac at openend.se Sun Sep 20 20:38:57 2015 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:38:57 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] Presentations In-Reply-To: References: <55FCB96B.6040807@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201509201838.t8KIcvrW010780@fido.openend.se> In a message of Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600, Abu Ashraf Masnun writes: >Hi, > >I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last >year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this >year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: http://pybd.org >- but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. > >I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and >international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to >Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time >:) > >Regards, >Masnun Hi Masnun, and everybody else. I will make a larger presentation about me later. But one of the things I do is answer questions as webmaster at python.org. (I have help. There are a few webmasters.) I am hoping that people on this mailing list also know about the python wiki. In particular I hope they know about https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups If you have a local group, please add it here. The wiki is free for everybody to add to, though due to SPAM we have had to make people register for a wiki account and now have capchas (which are python programming questions). webmaster often gets asked about 'is there a local group, and if so where?'. Last winter somebody in Chittagong wanted to know if there were any groups in Bangladesh, and I had to say ... not as far as I know. They didn't know about your fb presence, either. They seemed lonely. Next time I will know better. But if people kept that page updated, it would work against having such problems. Thank you, and very pleased I am to see you ... Laura Creighton (just another python hacker ...) From masnun at gmail.com Sun Sep 20 20:41:12 2015 From: masnun at gmail.com (Abu Ashraf Masnun) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:41:12 +0600 Subject: [PSF-Community] Presentations In-Reply-To: <201509201838.t8KIcvrW010780@fido.openend.se> References: <55FCB96B.6040807@gmail.com> <201509201838.t8KIcvrW010780@fido.openend.se> Message-ID: Hi Laura, I shall try to keep things updated. Thanks for the pointer. Going to update it right away! Regards, Masnun On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > In a message of Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600, Abu Ashraf Masnun writes: > >Hi, > > > >I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last > >year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this > >year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: > http://pybd.org > >- but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. > > > >I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and > >international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to > >Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time > >:) > > > >Regards, > >Masnun > > Hi Masnun, and everybody else. > I will make a larger presentation about me later. But one of the things > I do is answer questions as webmaster at python.org. (I have help. There > are a few webmasters.) I am hoping that people on this mailing list also > know about the python wiki. > > In particular I hope they know about > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups > > If you have a local group, please add it here. The wiki is free for > everybody to add to, though due to SPAM we have had to make people > register for a wiki account and now have capchas (which are python > programming questions). > > webmaster often gets asked about 'is there a local group, and > if so where?'. Last winter somebody in Chittagong wanted to know > if there were any groups in Bangladesh, and I had to say ... not > as far as I know. They didn't know about your fb presence, either. > They seemed lonely. > > Next time I will know better. > > But if people kept that page updated, it would work against having > such problems. > > Thank you, and very pleased I am to see you ... > > Laura Creighton > (just another python hacker ...) > -- Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:34 AM, wrote: > Send PSF-Community mailing list submissions to > psf-community at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psf-community-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psf-community-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSF-Community digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Presentations (Abu Ashraf Masnun) > 2. Re: Presentations (Laura Creighton) > 3. Re: Presentations (Abu Ashraf Masnun) > 4. Introduction (AN'IL'IDEAL GUY) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600 > From: Abu Ashraf Masnun > To: Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan) > Cc: Ewa Jodlowska , psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations > Message-ID: > 8eq38T8cW8TGRvBMWg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, > > I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last > year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this > year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: > http://pybd.org > - but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. > > I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and > international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to > Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time > :) > > Regards, > Masnun > > On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 5:33 AM, "Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan)" < > cherny.berbesi at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi members, > > > > I was seeing a little bit the Argentina community and is awesome :-) > > > > In my case, I?m starting a small community in Costa Rica and I hope to > get > > the attention from a lot of students here. Feel free to drop me a message > > if you are planning to visit on Costa Rica anytime (if you are already in > > CR please join us!). > > > > Greetings. > > > > -- > > https://profiles.google.com/cherny.berbesi > > > > On Sep 19, 2015, at 17:10, Ewa Jodlowska wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Manuel Kaufmann > > wrote: > > > >> Hi all! > >> > >> I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think > >> it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one > >> "official" mailing list. > >> > >> So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to > >> meet each other? (maybe I missed that) > >> > > > > Hi Manuel, > > > > You did not miss any presentations, but I think this is a great idea. > > Thank you for initiating it! > > > > Members - please feel free to send in introductions about yourself. > > Knowing who is behind this mailing list will only make it that much more > > valuable to our community! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ewa > > Director of Operations > > Python Software Foundation > > Cell: 415-319-5237 > > _______________________________________________ > > PSF-Community mailing list > > PSF-Community at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PSF-Community mailing list > > PSF-Community at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > > > > -- > Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/psf-community/attachments/20150921/15d83f7d/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:38:57 +0200 > From: Laura Creighton > To: Abu Ashraf Masnun > Cc: Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan) , > psf-community at python.org, lac at openend.se > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations > Message-ID: <201509201838.t8KIcvrW010780 at fido.openend.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In a message of Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600, Abu Ashraf Masnun writes: > >Hi, > > > >I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last > >year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this > >year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: > http://pybd.org > >- but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. > > > >I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and > >international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to > >Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time > >:) > > > >Regards, > >Masnun > > Hi Masnun, and everybody else. > I will make a larger presentation about me later. But one of the things > I do is answer questions as webmaster at python.org. (I have help. There > are a few webmasters.) I am hoping that people on this mailing list also > know about the python wiki. > > In particular I hope they know about > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups > > If you have a local group, please add it here. The wiki is free for > everybody to add to, though due to SPAM we have had to make people > register for a wiki account and now have capchas (which are python > programming questions). > > webmaster often gets asked about 'is there a local group, and > if so where?'. Last winter somebody in Chittagong wanted to know > if there were any groups in Bangladesh, and I had to say ... not > as far as I know. They didn't know about your fb presence, either. > They seemed lonely. > > Next time I will know better. > > But if people kept that page updated, it would work against having > such problems. > > Thank you, and very pleased I am to see you ... > > Laura Creighton > (just another python hacker ...) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:41:12 +0600 > From: Abu Ashraf Masnun > To: Laura Creighton > Cc: Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan) , > psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations > Message-ID: > AkrBA6Min8aS0A2Usxt2w at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Laura, > > I shall try to keep things updated. Thanks for the pointer. Going to update > it right away! > > Regards, > Masnun > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > > > In a message of Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600, Abu Ashraf Masnun > writes: > > >Hi, > > > > > >I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. > Last > > >year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for > this > > >year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: > > http://pybd.org > > >- but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. > > > > > >I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and > > >international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to > > >Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun > time > > >:) > > > > > >Regards, > > >Masnun > > > > Hi Masnun, and everybody else. > > I will make a larger presentation about me later. But one of the things > > I do is answer questions as webmaster at python.org. (I have help. There > > are a few webmasters.) I am hoping that people on this mailing list also > > know about the python wiki. > > > > In particular I hope they know about > > > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups > > > > If you have a local group, please add it here. The wiki is free for > > everybody to add to, though due to SPAM we have had to make people > > register for a wiki account and now have capchas (which are python > > programming questions). > > > > webmaster often gets asked about 'is there a local group, and > > if so where?'. Last winter somebody in Chittagong wanted to know > > if there were any groups in Bangladesh, and I had to say ... not > > as far as I know. They didn't know about your fb presence, either. > > They seemed lonely. > > > > Next time I will know better. > > > > But if people kept that page updated, it would work against having > > such problems. > > > > Thank you, and very pleased I am to see you ... > > > > Laura Creighton > > (just another python hacker ...) > > > > > > -- > Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/psf-community/attachments/20150921/3d147895/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:34:03 +0530 > From: "AN'IL'IDEAL GUY" > To: psf-community at python.org > Subject: [PSF-Community] Introduction > Message-ID: > Mpw1M1-mq7mgM3g at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi All, > > > > > I am Anil. I am from Bangalore India. 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URL: From amru.rosyada at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 10:27:41 2015 From: amru.rosyada at gmail.com (Amru Rosyada) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:27:41 +0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] PSF-Community Digest, Vol 1, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <81B27DBE-1CF6-4E5F-916C-1C8C1A164DA7@gmail.com> Hello my name Amru Rosyada, I am kiddies programmer and big fan of python. I create some project and share it to the world, you can also visit my current project but it is still in beta version http://sikilku.com I hope I can share everything and helping other as soon as I can do it to this community and give me more knowledge about python. Regards, > On Sep 21, 2015, at 1:41 PM, diliup gabadamudalige wrote: > > Hi! > I am Diliup-G from Sri Lanka. I was a musician/composer before but now I am retired and teaching music and coding in Python as a hobby. I have written three games and two music educational tools which I share with the world. I would like to share my knowledge with you and also learn from you what I do not know. Please feel free to visit my web site and download any software and code you may want to see. > > http://soft.diliupg.com/ > > May all be well. > > > >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 8:34 AM, wrote: >> Send PSF-Community mailing list submissions to >> psf-community at python.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> psf-community-request at python.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> psf-community-owner at python.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of PSF-Community digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Presentations (Abu Ashraf Masnun) >> 2. Re: Presentations (Laura Creighton) >> 3. Re: Presentations (Abu Ashraf Masnun) >> 4. Introduction (AN'IL'IDEAL GUY) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600 >> From: Abu Ashraf Masnun >> To: Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan) >> Cc: Ewa Jodlowska , psf-community at python.org >> Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi, >> >> I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last >> year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this >> year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: http://pybd.org >> - but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. >> >> I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and >> international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to >> Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time >> :) >> >> Regards, >> Masnun >> >> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 5:33 AM, "Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan)" < >> cherny.berbesi at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi members, >> > >> > I was seeing a little bit the Argentina community and is awesome :-) >> > >> > In my case, I?m starting a small community in Costa Rica and I hope to get >> > the attention from a lot of students here. Feel free to drop me a message >> > if you are planning to visit on Costa Rica anytime (if you are already in >> > CR please join us!). >> > >> > Greetings. >> > >> > -- >> > https://profiles.google.com/cherny.berbesi >> > >> > On Sep 19, 2015, at 17:10, Ewa Jodlowska wrote: >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Manuel Kaufmann >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi all! >> >> >> >> I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think >> >> it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one >> >> "official" mailing list. >> >> >> >> So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to >> >> meet each other? (maybe I missed that) >> >> >> > >> > Hi Manuel, >> > >> > You did not miss any presentations, but I think this is a great idea. >> > Thank you for initiating it! >> > >> > Members - please feel free to send in introductions about yourself. >> > Knowing who is behind this mailing list will only make it that much more >> > valuable to our community! >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > Ewa >> > Director of Operations >> > Python Software Foundation >> > Cell: 415-319-5237 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > PSF-Community mailing list >> > PSF-Community at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > PSF-Community mailing list >> > PSF-Community at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 20:38:57 +0200 >> From: Laura Creighton >> To: Abu Ashraf Masnun >> Cc: Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan) , >> psf-community at python.org, lac at openend.se >> Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations >> Message-ID: <201509201838.t8KIcvrW010780 at fido.openend.se> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> In a message of Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600, Abu Ashraf Masnun writes: >> >Hi, >> > >> >I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last >> >year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this >> >year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: http://pybd.org >> >- but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. >> > >> >I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and >> >international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to >> >Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time >> >:) >> > >> >Regards, >> >Masnun >> >> Hi Masnun, and everybody else. >> I will make a larger presentation about me later. But one of the things >> I do is answer questions as webmaster at python.org. (I have help. There >> are a few webmasters.) I am hoping that people on this mailing list also >> know about the python wiki. >> >> In particular I hope they know about >> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups >> >> If you have a local group, please add it here. The wiki is free for >> everybody to add to, though due to SPAM we have had to make people >> register for a wiki account and now have capchas (which are python >> programming questions). >> >> webmaster often gets asked about 'is there a local group, and >> if so where?'. Last winter somebody in Chittagong wanted to know >> if there were any groups in Bangladesh, and I had to say ... not >> as far as I know. They didn't know about your fb presence, either. >> They seemed lonely. >> >> Next time I will know better. >> >> But if people kept that page updated, it would work against having >> such problems. >> >> Thank you, and very pleased I am to see you ... >> >> Laura Creighton >> (just another python hacker ...) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:41:12 +0600 >> From: Abu Ashraf Masnun >> To: Laura Creighton >> Cc: Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan) , >> psf-community at python.org >> Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Laura, >> >> I shall try to keep things updated. Thanks for the pointer. Going to update >> it right away! >> >> Regards, >> Masnun >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: >> >> > In a message of Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600, Abu Ashraf Masnun writes: >> > >Hi, >> > > >> > >I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last >> > >year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for this >> > >year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: >> > http://pybd.org >> > >- but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. >> > > >> > >I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and >> > >international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to >> > >Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time >> > >:) >> > > >> > >Regards, >> > >Masnun >> > >> > Hi Masnun, and everybody else. >> > I will make a larger presentation about me later. But one of the things >> > I do is answer questions as webmaster at python.org. (I have help. There >> > are a few webmasters.) I am hoping that people on this mailing list also >> > know about the python wiki. >> > >> > In particular I hope they know about >> > >> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups >> > >> > If you have a local group, please add it here. The wiki is free for >> > everybody to add to, though due to SPAM we have had to make people >> > register for a wiki account and now have capchas (which are python >> > programming questions). >> > >> > webmaster often gets asked about 'is there a local group, and >> > if so where?'. Last winter somebody in Chittagong wanted to know >> > if there were any groups in Bangladesh, and I had to say ... not >> > as far as I know. They didn't know about your fb presence, either. >> > They seemed lonely. >> > >> > Next time I will know better. >> > >> > But if people kept that page updated, it would work against having >> > such problems. >> > >> > Thank you, and very pleased I am to see you ... >> > >> > Laura Creighton >> > (just another python hacker ...) >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 08:34:03 +0530 >> From: "AN'IL'IDEAL GUY" >> To: psf-community at python.org >> Subject: [PSF-Community] Introduction >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> >> I am Anil. I am from Bangalore India. I started learning python in my >> graduation and then now i am giving guest lectures for the local college >> students. I started my professional career very recent. Waiting for a >> chance to align my career in python stream. >> >> >> >> --Anil >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of PSF-Community Digest, Vol 1, Issue 7 >> ******************************************* > > > > -- > Diliup Gabadamudalige > > http://www.diliupg.com > http://soft.diliupg.com/ > > ********************************************************************************************** > This e-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or have received it in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. 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I use python almost eight years and had developed great projects.] You can count me in. Long live to all pythonists. -- Marlon Petry Quem quiser chegar a ser o que n?o ?, dever? principiar por n?o ser o que ?. Carlos Bernardo Gonz?lez Pecotche Lembretes Aleat?rios. Dispon?vel na Play Store Experimente!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k at kmonsoor.com Mon Sep 21 16:47:53 2015 From: k at kmonsoor.com (Khaled Monsoor) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:47:53 +0600 Subject: [PSF-Community] self.introduction Message-ID: hello to all PSF members, i'm khaled from Dhaka, Bangladesh. i work as a Python developer for a local company. I am also a hobbyist data "scientist". during my ongoing learning of Python, i try to contribute back to the community by contributing to open-source projects on Github, answering StackOverflow questions, and occasionally by blogging my experience. i missed the first PyCon in Bangladesh, in 2014, thanks to knowing at the last minute :(. But, looking forward to join this year. Would love to contribute by any possible means. Nice to meet you guys. As a fellow Pythonista, you are most welcome to add me on Facebook, LinkedIn (/kmonsoor) or twitter(@KhaledMonsoor). ciao ! regards, Khaled Monsoor Dhaka, Bangladesh e: k at kmonsoor.com m: +880 182 7070777 On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 4:00 PM, wrote: > Send PSF-Community mailing list submissions to > psf-community at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psf-community-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psf-community-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSF-Community digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Presentations (Ewa Jodlowska) > 2. Re: Presentations (Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 16:10:30 -0700 > From: Ewa Jodlowska > To: Manuel Kaufmann > Cc: psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations > Message-ID: > < > CADx+GQPGJSem7ENYJ5S6m7_gG_6KNP8CwLrL1b6714tyA8TLsQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Manuel Kaufmann > wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think > > it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one > > "official" mailing list. > > > > So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to > > meet each other? (maybe I missed that) > > > > Hi Manuel, > > You did not miss any presentations, but I think this is a great idea. Thank > you for initiating it! > > Members - please feel free to send in introductions about yourself. Knowing > who is behind this mailing list will only make it that much more valuable > to our community! > > Best regards, > > Ewa > Director of Operations > Python Software Foundation > Cell: 415-319-5237 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/psf-community/attachments/20150919/62012feb/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 17:33:06 -0600 > From: "Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan)" > To: Ewa Jodlowska > Cc: Manuel Kaufmann , psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Presentations > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi members, > > I was seeing a little bit the Argentina community and is awesome :-) > > In my case, I?m starting a small community in Costa Rica and I hope to get > the attention from a lot of students here. Feel free to drop me a message > if you are planning to visit on Costa Rica anytime (if you are already in > CR please join us!). > > Greetings. > > -- > https://profiles.google.com/cherny.berbesi > > > On Sep 19, 2015, at 17:10, Ewa Jodlowska wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Manuel Kaufmann > wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > I'm here because I received an email about this mailing list and I think > it was an amazing idea to connect all the PSF Community in just one > "official" mailing list. > > > > So, now, are you doing a round of presentation or something like that to > meet each other? (maybe I missed that) > > > > Hi Manuel, > > > > You did not miss any presentations, but I think this is a great idea. > Thank you for initiating it! > > > > Members - please feel free to send in introductions about yourself. > Knowing who is behind this mailing list will only make it that much more > valuable to our community! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Ewa > > Director of Operations > > Python Software Foundation > > Cell: 415-319-5237 > > _______________________________________________ > > PSF-Community mailing list > > PSF-Community at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/psf-community/attachments/20150919/4ff1c077/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > ------------------------------ > > End of PSF-Community Digest, Vol 1, Issue 6 > ******************************************* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it so much of an inconvenience? > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Andreas Jung > wrote: > Where are these pointless self introductions going to stop? > > > On 21 Sep 2015, at 16:53, Daniel Mattos wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > > PSF-Community mailing list > > PSF-Community at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community ---------------------------- Alexander C. S. Hendorf MD hendorf at opotoc.com twitter @opotoc phon +49.621.122 8181 4 mobil +49.179.75 65 173 ---------------------------- opotoc IT GmbH, M2 4-5, 68161 Mannheim, www.opotoc.com Finanzamt Mannheim-Stadt 38186/46306 Registergericht Mannheim HRB718272 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Alexander Hendorf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From remirampin at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 17:11:12 2015 From: remirampin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?UsOpbWkgUmFtcGlu?=) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:11:12 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : > I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? > It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm from Ycountry and use Python"). I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment > where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, > launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This > community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. [...] Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include > your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, > this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored > publicly for a very long time. The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). Cheers -- R?mi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dadvand.mehrdad at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 17:12:00 2015 From: dadvand.mehrdad at gmail.com (Mehrdad Dadvand) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:42:00 +0430 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: HI all What are we gonna do after self-introduction -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't > request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting > content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got > (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are > really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content > into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm > from Ycountry and use Python"). > > I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must > be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? > > The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment >> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, >> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This >> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. > > [...] > > Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include >> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, >> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored >> publicly for a very long time. > > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large > audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > Cheers > -- > R?mi > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Alex Kavanagh Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name @ajkavanagh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The first few emails I got > (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are > really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content > into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm > from Ycountry and use Python"). > > I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must be > a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? > > The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment >> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, >> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This >> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. > > [...] > > Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include >> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, >> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored >> publicly for a very long time. > > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large > audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > Cheers > -- > R?mi > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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But let's try to keep this focused on things that are useful to the community. Thanks, Van PSF Chair _________________________________ Van Lindberg van.lindberg at gmail.com m: 214.364.7985 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drlatech at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 17:22:43 2015 From: drlatech at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RHJhxb5lbiBMYXphcmV2acSH?=) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:22:43 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] Presentations In-Reply-To: References: <55FCB96B.6040807@gmail.com> <201509201838.t8KIcvrW010780@fido.openend.se> Message-ID: Hello everybody, It is nice to see how active this community is. My name is Drazen Lazarevic, and I come from Bosnia and Herzegovina, small country in south - eastern Europe, till 1990s part of Yugoslawia. I've started with Python 2010 - 11, after my senior year on University. It was just playing with syntax and structure and comparing with languages that I used on faculty (Java and C). I fell in love with Python expresiveness on the first sight. Reading well written Python code is like reading a book, because standard libraries are so sensefull, speaking about their names, same as functions and methods written by medium Python Developer. After graduation, I've started to work in some smaller company which developed tourism industry software, as Python Developer, backend. I've worked there for 2 years. My wishes are to author some useful Python libraries and contribute to Python Community somehow. Best regards and cheers, Drazen Lazarevic On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Abu Ashraf Masnun wrote: > Hi Laura, > > I shall try to keep things updated. Thanks for the pointer. Going to > update it right away! > > Regards, > Masnun > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Laura Creighton wrote: > >> In a message of Mon, 21 Sep 2015 00:20:37 +0600, Abu Ashraf Masnun writes: >> >Hi, >> > >> >I am Masnun, from Bangladesh. We have a nice growing community here. Last >> >year we arranged PyCon Dhaka (http://dhaka.pycon.org/) and plans for >> this >> >year is under way. Our community is mostly facebook centric: >> http://pybd.org >> >- but we also arrange some offline meetups and workshops. >> > >> >I am a big fan of Python and would love to contribute to the local and >> >international community in any ways possible. If any of you ever come to >> >Bangladesh, do let us know, would love to hang out and have some fun time >> >:) >> > >> >Regards, >> >Masnun >> >> Hi Masnun, and everybody else. >> I will make a larger presentation about me later. But one of the things >> I do is answer questions as webmaster at python.org. (I have help. There >> are a few webmasters.) I am hoping that people on this mailing list also >> know about the python wiki. >> >> In particular I hope they know about >> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups >> >> If you have a local group, please add it here. The wiki is free for >> everybody to add to, though due to SPAM we have had to make people >> register for a wiki account and now have capchas (which are python >> programming questions). >> >> webmaster often gets asked about 'is there a local group, and >> if so where?'. Last winter somebody in Chittagong wanted to know >> if there were any groups in Bangladesh, and I had to say ... not >> as far as I know. They didn't know about your fb presence, either. >> They seemed lonely. >> >> Next time I will know better. >> >> But if people kept that page updated, it would work against having >> such problems. >> >> Thank you, and very pleased I am to see you ... >> >> Laura Creighton >> (just another python hacker ...) >> > > > > -- > Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at 216software.com Mon Sep 21 17:17:57 2015 From: matt at 216software.com (W. Matthew Wilson) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:17:57 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An introduction from every python user around the world sounds like a fun project, just not with email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alain.legault at mail.mcgill.ca Mon Sep 21 17:09:22 2015 From: alain.legault at mail.mcgill.ca (Alain Legault) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:09:22 +0000 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <6D5469C8-7056-4995-A423-38C4603EF920@opotoc.com> References: <6D5469C8-7056-4995-A423-38C4603EF920@opotoc.com> Message-ID: Ditto ? From: PSF-Community [mailto:psf-community-bounces+alain.legault=mail.mcgill.ca at python.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Hendorf Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM To: justin at justinholmes.com Cc: psf-community at python.org Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] No more me +1 I also do enjoy reading them? Am 21.09.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Justin Myles Holmes >: I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Andreas Jung > wrote: Where are these pointless self introductions going to stop? On 21 Sep 2015, at 16:53, Daniel Mattos wrote: > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community ---------------------------- Alexander C. S. Hendorf MD hendorf at opotoc.com twitter @opotoc phon +49.621.122 8181 4 mobil +49.179.75 65 173 ---------------------------- opotoc IT GmbH, M2 4-5, 68161 Mannheim, www.opotoc.com Finanzamt Mannheim-Stadt 38186/46306 Registergericht Mannheim HRB718272 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Alexander Hendorf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From humitos at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 17:30:07 2015 From: humitos at gmail.com (Manuel Kaufmann) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:30:07 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5600227F.7030309@gmail.com> El 21/09/15 a las 11:11, R?mi Rampin escribi?: > but these "presentations" are really pointless and nothing but spam (at > least Manuel put some content into it; I fail to see why anyone would > enjoy reading "my name is X I'm from Ycountry and use Python"). Well, that was what I tried to do and generate: "A good presentation about who we are and what projects do we have about Python" instead of just "my name and where I live". Sorry if I generate this amount of pointless email for you :( -- Kaufmann Manuel -- http://elblogdehumitos.com.ar/ From yarkot1 at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 17:44:30 2015 From: yarkot1 at gmail.com (Yarko Tymciurak) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:44:30 -0500 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <5600227F.7030309@gmail.com> References: <5600227F.7030309@gmail.com> Message-ID: Manuel, Welcome, and know you do not generate pointless email at all. Forgive those who have no social manners (nor simple technical skills). A community welcomes. Those who are not interested in the worldwide introductions can simply filter them, or as the less skilled have pointed out, unsubscribe. It would be an all around service to us all, since it is those complaining emails which are the real "noise" (suggestions of alternate avenues always welcome, but let's keep introductions to that: social connection points). Again, welcome! Yarko (longtime US Pycon volunteer coordinator) On Sep 21, 2015 10:32 AM, "Manuel Kaufmann" wrote: > El 21/09/15 a las 11:11, R?mi Rampin escribi?: > >> but these "presentations" are really pointless and nothing but spam (at >> least Manuel put some content into it; I fail to see why anyone would >> enjoy reading "my name is X I'm from Ycountry and use Python"). >> > > Well, that was what I tried to do and generate: "A good presentation about > who we are and what projects do we have about Python" instead of just "my > name and where I live". > > Sorry if I generate this amount of pointless email for you :( > > -- > > Kaufmann Manuel > -- http://elblogdehumitos.com.ar/ > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Warmly, Carol On 9/21/15 8:18 AM, Andreas Jung wrote: > Guys, use Python on Google Plus for the pointless blather. > This is a mailing list and not a sink for pointless _noise_ > without any value and information....just saying..well, > perhaps time to directly unsubscribe now after getting subscribed > to this list without permission... > -- *Carol Willing* Developer | Willing Consulting https://willingconsulting.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kennethlove at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 18:00:41 2015 From: kennethlove at gmail.com (Kenneth Love) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:00:41 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the input Van. I?ll jump on the introductions bandwagon. I?m Kenneth, from the US (Portland, OR so say ?hi? at the next PyCon NA). I teach Python at teamtreehouse.com and I was a Python and Django developer for a long time before that. Some of you have probably used my django-braces package. Welcome to the mailing list, everyone. Hope to get to know you all better! Kenneth > On Sep 21, 2015, at 08:22 , VanL wrote: > > To those asking about what is next, or not wanting to worry about introductions: Introductions are a fine way to start things out. Let's make sure that we welcome those who are sharing so that we can maintain this list as a nice place to be. > > As to what is next, that is a good question. It's isn't for us to dictate. Generally, what is on topic here are things that fellow Pythonistas will find interesting and useful. Community events, calls for papers, discussions of Python, of libraries, and of interesting articles. > > Aren't sure something that someone else posted is on topic? We should give each other the benefit of the doubt before criticizing or using inflammatory language. But let's try to keep this focused on things that are useful to the community. > > Thanks, > > Van > > PSF Chair > > _________________________________ > Van Lindberg > van.lindberg at gmail.com > m: 214.364.7985 > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From harlin.seritt at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 18:14:36 2015 From: harlin.seritt at gmail.com (Harlin Seritt) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:14:36 -0600 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I'm Harlin Seritt. I am in Colorado Springs, Colorado. I work at Alfresco Software doing technical support. Python has not always been the programming language primarily used where I've worked but I have carried it everywhere I've gone as I've found it to be indispensable to my daily work. I have been coding in Python since around 2001. I enjoy also creating sites/web apps with Django. Look forward to working with all of you down the road. All the best, Harlin On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Kenneth Love wrote: > Thanks for the input Van. > > I?ll jump on the introductions bandwagon. I?m Kenneth, from the US > (Portland, OR so say ?hi? at the next PyCon NA). I teach Python at > teamtreehouse.com and I was a Python and Django developer for a long time > before that. Some of you have probably used my django-braces package. > > Welcome to the mailing list, everyone. Hope to get to know you all better! > > Kenneth > > > On Sep 21, 2015, at 08:22 , VanL wrote: > > To those asking about what is next, or not wanting to worry about > introductions: Introductions are a fine way to start things out. Let's make > sure that we welcome those who are sharing so that we can maintain this > list as a nice place to be. > > As to what is next, that is a good question. It's isn't for us to dictate. > Generally, what is on topic here are things that fellow Pythonistas will > find interesting and useful. Community events, calls for papers, > discussions of Python, of libraries, and of interesting articles. > > Aren't sure something that someone else posted is on topic? We should give > each other the benefit of the doubt before criticizing or using > inflammatory language. But let's try to keep this focused on things that > are useful to the community. > > Thanks, > > Van > > PSF Chair > > _________________________________ > Van Lindberg > van.lindberg at gmail.com > m: 214.364.7985 > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dadvand.mehrdad at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 18:19:01 2015 From: dadvand.mehrdad at gmail.com (Mehrdad Dadvand) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:49:01 +0430 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introduction Message-ID: I'm getting email every 5 min -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hope to get to know you all better! > > Kenneth > > > On Sep 21, 2015, at 08:22 , VanL wrote: > > To those asking about what is next, or not wanting to worry about > introductions: Introductions are a fine way to start things out. Let's make > sure that we welcome those who are sharing so that we can maintain this > list as a nice place to be. > > As to what is next, that is a good question. It's isn't for us to dictate. > Generally, what is on topic here are things that fellow Pythonistas will > find interesting and useful. Community events, calls for papers, > discussions of Python, of libraries, and of interesting articles. > > Aren't sure something that someone else posted is on topic? We should give > each other the benefit of the doubt before criticizing or using > inflammatory language. But let's try to keep this focused on things that > are useful to the community. > > Thanks, > > Van > > PSF Chair > > _________________________________ > Van Lindberg > van.lindberg at gmail.com > m: 214.364.7985 > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm Lacey, and I'm a developer for the University of Texas at Austin, but I live in Portland. I'm pretty active in Django Girls; I've co-organized 2 workshops, and I'm on their support team now. I was also on the organizing team for DjangoCon US, which happened 2 weeks ago in Austin, TX. Glad to be getting to know you all! Lacey laceynwilliams at gmail.com / @laceynwilliams On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM Don Sheu wrote: > Kenneth, visit us at Puget Sound Programming Python (PuPPy) I'm Seattle > sometime. Love to have you speak for our group. For our first year, > community favorite talk was in GeoDjango by Corinne Hutchinson. > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:08 AM Kenneth Love > wrote: > >> Thanks for the input Van. >> >> I?ll jump on the introductions bandwagon. I?m Kenneth, from the US >> (Portland, OR so say ?hi? at the next PyCon NA). I teach Python at >> teamtreehouse.com and I was a Python and Django developer for a long >> time before that. Some of you have probably used my django-braces package. >> >> Welcome to the mailing list, everyone. Hope to get to know you all better! >> >> Kenneth >> >> >> On Sep 21, 2015, at 08:22 , VanL wrote: >> >> To those asking about what is next, or not wanting to worry about >> introductions: Introductions are a fine way to start things out. Let's make >> sure that we welcome those who are sharing so that we can maintain this >> list as a nice place to be. >> >> As to what is next, that is a good question. It's isn't for us to >> dictate. Generally, what is on topic here are things that fellow >> Pythonistas will find interesting and useful. Community events, calls for >> papers, discussions of Python, of libraries, and of interesting articles. >> >> Aren't sure something that someone else posted is on topic? We should >> give each other the benefit of the doubt before criticizing or using >> inflammatory language. But let's try to keep this focused on things that >> are useful to the community. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Van >> >> PSF Chair >> >> _________________________________ >> Van Lindberg >> van.lindberg at gmail.com >> m: 214.364.7985 >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ctbrown at ucdavis.edu Mon Sep 21 18:36:44 2015 From: ctbrown at ucdavis.edu (C. Titus Brown) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:36:44 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 04:18:26PM +0100, Alex Kavanagh wrote: > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, > "large audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > I agree. Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list > where people introduce themselves. Hi all, I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I was not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people other than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better next time.) Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited introductions on September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging directly with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. cheers, --titus > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM, R??mi Rampin wrote: > > > 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : > > > >> I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? > >> > > > > It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't > > request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting > > content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got > > (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are > > really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content > > into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm > > from Ycountry and use Python"). > > > > I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must > > be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? > > > > The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment > >> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, > >> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This > >> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. > > > > [...] > > > > Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include > >> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, > >> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored > >> publicly for a very long time. > > > > > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large > > audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I > > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these > > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > > > Cheers > > -- > > R??mi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PSF-Community mailing list > > PSF-Community at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > > > > -- > Alex Kavanagh > Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name > @ajkavanagh > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -- C. Titus Brown, ctbrown at ucdavis.edu From don at sheu.com Mon Sep 21 18:47:24 2015 From: don at sheu.com (Don Sheu) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:47:24 +0000 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lacey, visit PuPPy in Seattle. Would love to have you speak. We meet 2nd Wednesday of every month. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM Lacey Williams Henschel < laceynwilliams at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm Lacey, and I'm a developer for the University of Texas at Austin, but > I live in Portland. I'm pretty active in Django Girls; I've co-organized 2 > workshops, and I'm on their support team now. I was also on the organizing > team for DjangoCon US, which happened 2 weeks ago in Austin, TX. > > Glad to be getting to know you all! > > Lacey > > laceynwilliams at gmail.com / @laceynwilliams > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM Don Sheu wrote: > >> Kenneth, visit us at Puget Sound Programming Python (PuPPy) I'm Seattle >> sometime. Love to have you speak for our group. For our first year, >> community favorite talk was in GeoDjango by Corinne Hutchinson. >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:08 AM Kenneth Love >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the input Van. >>> >>> I?ll jump on the introductions bandwagon. I?m Kenneth, from the US >>> (Portland, OR so say ?hi? at the next PyCon NA). I teach Python at >>> teamtreehouse.com and I was a Python and Django developer for a long >>> time before that. Some of you have probably used my django-braces package. >>> >>> Welcome to the mailing list, everyone. Hope to get to know you all >>> better! >>> >>> Kenneth >>> >>> >>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 08:22 , VanL wrote: >>> >>> To those asking about what is next, or not wanting to worry about >>> introductions: Introductions are a fine way to start things out. Let's make >>> sure that we welcome those who are sharing so that we can maintain this >>> list as a nice place to be. >>> >>> As to what is next, that is a good question. It's isn't for us to >>> dictate. Generally, what is on topic here are things that fellow >>> Pythonistas will find interesting and useful. 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I was also on the organizing > team for DjangoCon US, which happened 2 weeks ago in Austin, TX. > > Glad to be getting to know you all! > > Lacey > > laceynwilliams at gmail.com / @laceynwilliams > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM Don Sheu wrote: > >> Kenneth, visit us at Puget Sound Programming Python (PuPPy) I'm Seattle >> sometime. Love to have you speak for our group. For our first year, >> community favorite talk was in GeoDjango by Corinne Hutchinson. >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:08 AM Kenneth Love >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the input Van. >>> >>> I?ll jump on the introductions bandwagon. I?m Kenneth, from the US >>> (Portland, OR so say ?hi? at the next PyCon NA). I teach Python at >>> teamtreehouse.com and I was a Python and Django developer for a long >>> time before that. Some of you have probably used my django-braces package. >>> >>> Welcome to the mailing list, everyone. Hope to get to know you all >>> better! >>> >>> Kenneth >>> >>> >>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 08:22 , VanL wrote: >>> >>> To those asking about what is next, or not wanting to worry about >>> introductions: Introductions are a fine way to start things out. Let's make >>> sure that we welcome those who are sharing so that we can maintain this >>> list as a nice place to be. >>> >>> As to what is next, that is a good question. It's isn't for us to >>> dictate. Generally, what is on topic here are things that fellow >>> Pythonistas will find interesting and useful. Community events, calls for >>> papers, discussions of Python, of libraries, and of interesting articles. >>> >>> Aren't sure something that someone else posted is on topic? We should >>> give each other the benefit of the doubt before criticizing or using >>> inflammatory language. 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URL: From mertz at gnosis.cx Mon Sep 21 19:03:10 2015 From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:03:10 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> Message-ID: I think the introductions from enthusiastic Python programmers in various parts of the world are sweet, and they might help connect local communities in those places. Just chill about a few extra emails in your inbox, complainers. Or choose digest mode for this list! On Sep 21, 2015 9:37 AM, "C. Titus Brown" wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 04:18:26PM +0100, Alex Kavanagh wrote: > > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, > > "large audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see > how > > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But > I > > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were > these > > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > > > I agree. Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list > > where people introduce themselves. > > Hi all, > > I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- > > I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I was > not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything > underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people other > than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better > next time.) > > Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited introductions > on > September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging directly > with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less > intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. > > Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either > digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. > > cheers, > --titus > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM, R??mi Rampin > wrote: > > > > > 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : > > > > > >> I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? > > >> > > > > > > It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't > > > request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting > > > content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got > > > (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" > are > > > really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content > > > into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm > > > from Ycountry and use Python"). > > > > > > I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their > must > > > be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this > list? > > > > > > The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an > environment > > >> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share > experiences, > > >> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This > > >> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to > everyone. > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may > include > > >> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. > Remember, > > >> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be > stored > > >> publicly for a very long time. > > > > > > > > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, > "large > > > audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > > > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. > But I > > > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were > these > > > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > > > > > Cheers > > > -- > > > R??mi > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PSF-Community mailing list > > > PSF-Community at python.org > > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alex Kavanagh > > Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name > > @ajkavanagh > > > _______________________________________________ > > PSF-Community mailing list > > PSF-Community at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > -- > C. 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If anyone is ever in the region, drop me a mail or just come to our monthly meetups if you have the time :-) - Horst > Kris Hardy > 21 Sep 2015 18:40 > Hi All! I'm Kris Hardy from Albuquerque, NM. I am the organizer of > ABQpy (The Albuquerque Python User's Group), and am an embedded > systems developer and occasional web and desktop application > developer. If anyone is ever down in the Land of Enchantment, Green > Chile and Hot Air Balloons, drop me a line! > > > -Kris > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > Lacey Williams Henschel > 21 Sep 2015 18:31 > Hi everyone! > > I'm Lacey, and I'm a developer for the University of Texas at Austin, > but I live in Portland. I'm pretty active in Django Girls; I've > co-organized 2 workshops, and I'm on their support team now. I was > also on the organizing team for DjangoCon US, which happened 2 weeks > ago in Austin, TX. > > Glad to be getting to know you all! > > Lacey > > laceynwilliams at gmail.com / > @laceynwilliams > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > Don Sheu > 21 Sep 2015 18:18 > Kenneth, visit us at Puget Sound Programming Python (PuPPy) I'm > Seattle sometime. Love to have you speak for our group. For our first > year, community favorite talk was in GeoDjango by Corinne Hutchinson. > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at doughellmann.com Mon Sep 21 19:24:58 2015 From: doug at doughellmann.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:24:58 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> Message-ID: <37249B7A-5366-4198-8576-5EB4643E0230@doughellmann.com> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:36 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 04:18:26PM +0100, Alex Kavanagh wrote: >>> The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, >> "large audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how >> introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I >> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these >> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). >> >> I agree. Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list >> where people introduce themselves. > > Hi all, > > I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- > > I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I was > not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything > underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people other > than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better > next time.) > > Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited introductions on > September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging directly > with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less > intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. > > Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either > digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. > > cheers, > ?titus +1 ? it?s great to see a PSF mailing list full of nice messages Doug > >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM, R??mi Rampin wrote: >> >>> 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : >>> >>>> I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? >>>> >>> >>> It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't >>> request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting >>> content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got >>> (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are >>> really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content >>> into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm >>> from Ycountry and use Python"). >>> >>> I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must >>> be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? >>> >>> The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment >>>> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, >>>> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This >>>> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>> Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include >>>> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, >>>> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored >>>> publicly for a very long time. >>> >>> >>> The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large >>> audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how >>> introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I >>> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these >>> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). >>> >>> Cheers >>> -- >>> R??mi >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Alex Kavanagh >> Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name >> @ajkavanagh > >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > -- > C. Titus Brown, ctbrown at ucdavis.edu > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community From johnderosa at me.com Mon Sep 21 19:27:06 2015 From: johnderosa at me.com (John DeRosa) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:27:06 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Howdy - I?m John DeRosa from Seattle, WA. I?ve been working almost exclusively in Python and Django since 2005. Currently working on OpenStack stuff for Solinea. John From mcorbett at gmx.co.uk Mon Sep 21 19:36:59 2015 From: mcorbett at gmx.co.uk (Matt Corbett) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:36:59 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] Intro from UK Message-ID: <5600403B.8070900@gmx.co.uk> Hi All, I am a Software Engineer and Database Administrator from Cambridge, UK. I work for a European Science agency involved in Bioinformatics. I use Python for any programming projects I am given and a keen Pythonista as a hobbyist as well as a professional. I am learning django, which is a great add on in it's own right, cheers, matt From kirk at strauser.com Mon Sep 21 19:40:37 2015 From: kirk at strauser.com (Kirk Strauser) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:40:37 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F@strauser.com> Hello, gang! I?m Kirk Strauser from San Francisco. I?ve been using Python since 1999 or so, currently with a cozy startup. I also mentor its use among teens in Hacker Scouts^W^WCuriosity Hacked to help hatch the next generation of Pythonistas. I?ve missed the last couple of PyCons, but I will be in Portland if I have to hitchhike. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But I >>> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these >>> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). >>> >>> I agree. Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list >>> where people introduce themselves. >> >> Hi all, >> >> I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- >> >> I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I was >> not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything >> underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people other >> than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better >> next time.) >> >> Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited introductions on >> September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging directly >> with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less >> intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. >> >> Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either >> digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. >> >> cheers, >> ?titus > > +1 ? it?s great to see a PSF mailing list full of nice messages > > Doug > >> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM, R??mi Rampin wrote: >>> >>>> 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : >>>> >>>>> I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? >>>>> >>>> >>>> It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't >>>> request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting >>>> content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got >>>> (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are >>>> really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content >>>> into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm >>>> from Ycountry and use Python"). >>>> >>>> I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must >>>> be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? >>>> >>>> The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment >>>>> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, >>>>> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This >>>>> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. >>>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>> Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include >>>>> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, >>>>> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored >>>>> publicly for a very long time. >>>> >>>> >>>> The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large >>>> audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how >>>> introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I >>>> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these >>>> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> -- >>>> R??mi >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PSF-Community mailing list >>>> PSF-Community at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alex Kavanagh >>> Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name >>> @ajkavanagh >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> >> -- >> C. 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Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list > > where people introduce themselves. > > Hi all, > > I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- > > I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I was > not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything > underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people other > than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better > next time.) > > Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited introductions > on > September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging directly > with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less > intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. > > Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either > digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. Thank you, Titus. I share the same opinions. Everyone was sent an invitation. If you received an automatic subscription, this was done by error, we apologize! If anyone has trouble digesting this mailing list, please let us know off-list and we will walk you through it. Again, if you need technical assistance with this mailing list, please reach out to me directly or to the admins via psf-community-owner at python.org . -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vasudevram at gmail.com Mon Sep 21 20:33:17 2015 From: vasudevram at gmail.com (Vasudev Ram) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 00:03:17 +0530 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F@strauser.com> References: <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F@strauser.com> Message-ID: Hi people, I'm Vasudev Ram, a developer throughout my career, and a consultant and trainer (on Python and other topics) for some years now. Live in India. Python, Linux, databases and open source tech are some of my main interests. Creator of xtopdf, a Python toolkit for PDF creation. Run a blog at jugad2.blogspot.com where I blog a good amount about Python, open source, Linux, startups and software innovation - basically whatever interests me in the field of software. Nice to read all these introductions, Vasudev --- Vasudev Ram - Dancing Bison Enterprises Independent software consultant and trainer: About: http://jugad2.blogspot.in/p/about-vasudev-ram.html LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/vasudevram On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > Hello, gang! I?m Kirk Strauser from San Francisco. I?ve been using Python > since 1999 or so, currently with a cozy startup. I also mentor its use among > teens in Hacker Scouts^W^WCuriosity Hacked to help hatch the next generation > of Pythonistas. > > I?ve missed the last couple of PyCons, but I will be in Portland if I have > to hitchhike. > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > From ewa at python.org Mon Sep 21 20:44:27 2015 From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:44:27 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F@strauser.com> References: <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F@strauser.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > Hello, gang! I?m Kirk Strauser from San Francisco. I?ve been using Python > since 1999 or so, currently with a cozy startup. I also mentor its use > among teens in Hacker Scouts^W^WCuriosity Hacked to help hatch the next > generation of Pythonistas. > > I?ve missed the last couple of PyCons, but I *will* be in Portland if I > have to hitchhike. > Hi Kirk and members, We look forward to having you at PyCon US! The site will launch later this week and registration will open mid-October! All are welcome to follow our twitter account for updates: https://twitter.com/pycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From brian at cubo2.net Mon Sep 21 20:57:24 2015 From: brian at cubo2.net (Brian Jimenez) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 20:57:24 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Hello there, This is Brian Jimenez, from Barcelona, Spain. It is nice to read about all of you and I'm glad to be subscribed to this list. I am a software engineer enrolled in a scientific PhD (bioinformatics, mainly protein simulations). I've been using Python since 2005 when I started developing in Zope/Plone. Currently I'd like to consider myself a Pythonista. I'm a user of several numeric and scientific libraries such as numpy, scipy, biopython and many others and I'm really interested in building quality into scientific software, which I've found many times lacking enough testing, robustness or reproducibility. Thank you all for your time and effort. Best wishes, Brian El 21/09/15 a las 20:38, psf-community-request at python.org escribi?: > Send PSF-Community mailing list submissions to > psf-community at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psf-community-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psf-community-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSF-Community digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Introductions (John DeRosa) > 2. Intro from UK (Matt Corbett) > 3. Re: Introductions (Kirk Strauser) > 4. Re: No more me (Christian Tismer) > 5. Re: No more me (Ewa Jodlowska) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:27:06 -0700 > From: John DeRosa > To: psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Introductions > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Howdy - > > I?m John DeRosa from Seattle, WA. I?ve been working almost exclusively in Python and Django since 2005. Currently working on OpenStack stuff for Solinea. > > John > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:36:59 +0100 > From: Matt Corbett > To: psf-community at python.org > Subject: [PSF-Community] Intro from UK > Message-ID: <5600403B.8070900 at gmx.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi All, I am a Software Engineer and Database Administrator from > Cambridge, UK. I work for a European Science agency involved in > Bioinformatics. I use Python for any programming projects I am given and > a keen Pythonista as a hobbyist as well as a professional. I am learning > django, which is a great add on in it's own right, cheers, matt > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:40:37 -0700 > From: Kirk Strauser > To: PSF-Community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Introductions > Message-ID: <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F at strauser.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello, gang! I?m Kirk Strauser from San Francisco. I?ve been using Python since 1999 or so, currently with a cozy startup. I also mentor its use among teens in Hacker Scouts^W^WCuriosity Hacked to help hatch the next generation of Pythonistas. > > I?ve missed the last couple of PyCons, but I will be in Portland if I have to hitchhike. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:32:15 +0200 > From: Christian Tismer > To: Doug Hellmann , psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] No more me > Message-ID: <56003F1F.5050906 at stackless.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes, it is a nice feeling. > > everybody I know already (and these are _many_) behaves as I'm used to. > Feels like a great D?j?-vu. :-P > > Cheers - Chris > > > On 21/09/15 19:24, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:36 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 04:18:26PM +0100, Alex Kavanagh wrote: >>>>> The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, >>>> "large audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how >>>> introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I >>>> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these >>>> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). >>>> >>>> I agree. Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list >>>> where people introduce themselves. >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- >>> >>> I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I was >>> not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything >>> underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people other >>> than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better >>> next time.) >>> >>> Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited introductions on >>> September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging directly >>> with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less >>> intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. >>> >>> Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either >>> digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. >>> >>> cheers, >>> ?titus >> +1 ? it?s great to see a PSF mailing list full of nice messages >> >> Doug >> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM, R??mi Rampin wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : >>>>> >>>>>> I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? >>>>>> >>>>> It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't >>>>> request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting >>>>> content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got >>>>> (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are >>>>> really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content >>>>> into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm >>>>> from Ycountry and use Python"). >>>>> >>>>> I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must >>>>> be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? >>>>> >>>>> The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment >>>>>> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, >>>>>> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This >>>>>> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>> Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include >>>>>> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, >>>>>> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored >>>>>> publicly for a very long time. >>>>> >>>>> The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large >>>>> audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how >>>>> introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I >>>>> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these >>>>> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> -- >>>>> R??mi >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PSF-Community mailing list >>>>> PSF-Community at python.org >>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alex Kavanagh >>>> Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name >>>> @ajkavanagh >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PSF-Community mailing list >>>> PSF-Community at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> -- >>> C. Titus Brown, ctbrown at ucdavis.edu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From willingc at willingconsulting.com Mon Sep 21 22:11:27 2015 From: willingc at willingconsulting.com (Carol Willing) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:11:27 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <56005123.1000505@python.org> References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> <56005123.1000505@python.org> Message-ID: <5600646F.7030309@willingconsulting.com> On 9/21/15 11:49 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > Le 21/09/2015 20:38, Ewa Jodlowska a ?crit : >> Everyone was sent an invitation. If you received an automatic >> subscription, this was done by error, we apologize! If anyone has >> trouble digesting this mailing list, please let us know off-list and we >> will walk you through it. > Not sure what "digesting" means, but it would be good to offer a gmane > mirror for the list. Antoine, thanks for the gmane suggestion. I think this would be a nice enhancement for users. Moderators, let's take a look at implementing gmane. Warmly, Carol -- *Carol Willing* Developer | Willing Consulting https://willingconsulting.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ewa at python.org Mon Sep 21 22:45:31 2015 From: ewa at python.org (Ewa Jodlowska) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:45:31 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <56005123.1000505@python.org> References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> <56005123.1000505@python.org> Message-ID: "Digests" in this case means: If you turn digest mode on, you'll get posts bundled together (usually one per day but possibly more on busy lists), instead of singly when they're sent. This can be enabled from your options page on mailman: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/psf-community/[INSERT YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS HERE] Best regards, Ewa Director of Operations Python Software Foundation Cell: 415-319-5237 On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Le 21/09/2015 20:38, Ewa Jodlowska a ?crit : > > > > Everyone was sent an invitation. If you received an automatic > > subscription, this was done by error, we apologize! If anyone has > > trouble digesting this mailing list, please let us know off-list and we > > will walk you through it. > > Not sure what "digesting" means, but it would be good to offer a gmane > mirror for the list. Daily digests are a low-quality interface for > mailing-list discussions, especially when wanting to participate. > > Regards > > Antoine. > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barry at python.org Mon Sep 21 22:58:58 2015 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:58:58 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <5600646F.7030309@willingconsulting.com> References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> <56005123.1000505@python.org> <5600646F.7030309@willingconsulting.com> Message-ID: <20150921165858.6b0d0a6c@anarchist.wooz.org> On Sep 21, 2015, at 01:11 PM, Carol Willing wrote: >Moderators, let's take a look at implementing gmane. This came up when we were creating the mailing lists, although I'm not sure we specifically addressed *this* mailing list. The question is whether this is a public mailing list or not, and if so which of these three Gmane posting options would be most appropriate: Posting allowed (i.e. through Gmane) Read-only (for announcement lists, CVS logs etc.) Non-public (posting through Gmane allowed for list members) Unidirectional (no posting allowed through Gmane) Cheers, -Barry From aclark at aclark.net Mon Sep 21 23:27:51 2015 From: aclark at aclark.net (Alex Clark) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 17:27:51 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <20150921165858.6b0d0a6c@anarchist.wooz.org> References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> <56005123.1000505@python.org> <5600646F.7030309@willingconsulting.com> <20150921165858.6b0d0a6c@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: Hi Barry, all: "Posting allowed" is probably fine for the purposes of this list i.e. fostering open communication between the communities. And while we are at it, hello! I am Alex Clark: - Long-time "Plone guy" in Washington, DC, USA - DC Python Meetup organizer - Author of Pillow (PIL fork) - Python Web Developer /me hugs Andreas Jung Oh, & if someone could change ZPUGDC (zpugdc.org) to DC Python (dcpython.org) here I'd appreciate it: https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups (or add "Alex Clark" to editors list). Thank you! On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Sep 21, 2015, at 01:11 PM, Carol Willing wrote: > > >Moderators, let's take a look at implementing gmane. > > This came up when we were creating the mailing lists, although I'm not > sure we > specifically addressed *this* mailing list. The question is whether this > is a > public mailing list or not, and if so which of these three Gmane posting > options would be most appropriate: > > Posting allowed (i.e. through Gmane) > Read-only (for announcement lists, CVS logs etc.) > Non-public (posting through Gmane allowed for list members) > Unidirectional (no posting allowed through Gmane) > > Cheers, > -Barry > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -- Alex Clark ? http://aclark.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at holdenweb.com Mon Sep 21 23:43:07 2015 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:43:07 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> <56005123.1000505@python.org> <5600646F.7030309@willingconsulting.com> <20150921165858.6b0d0a6c@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <76B62E03-EADD-4B74-BBCB-91E64F3882E1@holdenweb.com> Hi Alex, Long time no hear. Hope everything is well with ZPUGDC. I?m Steve Holden, and have in the past been both a director of the PSF and its chairman. I started PyCon in the States. These things are all in the past now, and they are all doing better since I left them. It?s great that so many people are enthusiastic about joining this list. I remember being in on the relatively early days of python-list, and one of the things that most it so attractive was its determinedly positive approach. This gets more difficult as a list gets larger, so I would encourage you all to think of yourselves as empowered to maintain that (gently and positively) whenever anyone begins to go off the rails. S > On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Alex Clark wrote: > > Hi Barry, all: "Posting allowed" is probably fine for the purposes of this list i.e. fostering open communication between the communities. And while we are at it, hello! I am Alex Clark: > Long-time "Plone guy" in Washington, DC, USA > DC Python Meetup organizer > Author of Pillow (PIL fork) > Python Web Developer > /me hugs Andreas Jung > > Oh, & if someone could change ZPUGDC (zpugdc.org ) to DC Python (dcpython.org ) here I'd appreciate it: https://wiki.python.org/moin/LocalUserGroups (or add "Alex Clark" to editors list). Thank you! > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Barry Warsaw > wrote: > On Sep 21, 2015, at 01:11 PM, Carol Willing wrote: > > >Moderators, let's take a look at implementing gmane. > > This came up when we were creating the mailing lists, although I'm not sure we > specifically addressed *this* mailing list. 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From chewxy at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 01:16:15 2015 From: chewxy at gmail.com (Xuanyi Chew) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:16:15 +1000 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: So while we're on the topic of introductions... Hi, I'm Xuanyi (most people call me Chewxy). I co-run the Sydney Python group (SyPy). If anyone here's from Sydney, Australia (as opposed to Sydney Nova Scotia Canada), please do feel free to join us. We meet up every first thursday of the month (check meetup.com). Cheers *Xuanyi Chew* *@chewxy on Twitter* *Read:* my blog | *Watch:* Monads, in Python (PyConAU 2015) *+61403928398* On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Brian Jimenez wrote: > Hello there, > > This is Brian Jimenez, from Barcelona, Spain. It is nice to read about all > of you and I'm glad to be subscribed to this list. > I am a software engineer enrolled in a scientific PhD (bioinformatics, > mainly protein simulations). I've been using Python since 2005 when I > started developing in Zope/Plone. Currently I'd like to consider myself a > Pythonista. I'm a user of several numeric and scientific libraries such as > numpy, scipy, biopython and many others and I'm really interested in > building quality into scientific software, which I've found many times > lacking enough testing, robustness or reproducibility. > > Thank you all for your time and effort. > > Best wishes, > Brian > > El 21/09/15 a las 20:38, psf-community-request at python.org escribi?: > > Send PSF-Community mailing list submissions to > psf-community at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psf-community-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psf-community-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSF-Community digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Introductions (John DeRosa) > 2. Intro from UK (Matt Corbett) > 3. Re: Introductions (Kirk Strauser) > 4. Re: No more me (Christian Tismer) > 5. Re: No more me (Ewa Jodlowska) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:27:06 -0700 > From: John DeRosa > To: psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Introductions > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Howdy - > > I?m John DeRosa from Seattle, WA. I?ve been working almost exclusively in Python and Django since 2005. Currently working on OpenStack stuff for Solinea. > > John > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:36:59 +0100 > From: Matt Corbett > To: psf-community at python.org > Subject: [PSF-Community] Intro from UK > Message-ID: <5600403B.8070900 at gmx.co.uk> <5600403B.8070900 at gmx.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Hi All, I am a Software Engineer and Database Administrator from > Cambridge, UK. I work for a European Science agency involved in > Bioinformatics. I use Python for any programming projects I am given and > a keen Pythonista as a hobbyist as well as a professional. I am learning > django, which is a great add on in it's own right, cheers, matt > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:40:37 -0700 > From: Kirk Strauser > To: PSF-Community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Introductions > Message-ID: <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F at strauser.com> <539E5DF3-F158-4BB9-87CC-4F445088111F at strauser.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello, gang! I?m Kirk Strauser from San Francisco. I?ve been using Python since 1999 or so, currently with a cozy startup. I also mentor its use among teens in Hacker Scouts^W^WCuriosity Hacked to help hatch the next generation of Pythonistas. > > I?ve missed the last couple of PyCons, but I will be in Portland if I have to hitchhike. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:32:15 +0200 > From: Christian Tismer > To: Doug Hellmann , psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] No more me > Message-ID: <56003F1F.5050906 at stackless.com> <56003F1F.5050906 at stackless.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes, it is a nice feeling. > > everybody I know already (and these are _many_) behaves as I'm used to. > Feels like a great D?j?-vu. :-P > > Cheers - Chris > > > On 21/09/15 19:24, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:36 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 04:18:26PM +0100, Alex Kavanagh wrote: > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, > > "large audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > I agree. Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list > where people introduce themselves. > > Hi all, > > I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- > > I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I was > not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything > underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people other > than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better > next time.) > > Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited introductions on > September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging directly > with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less > intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. > > Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either > digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. > > cheers, > ?titus > > +1 ? it?s great to see a PSF mailing list full of nice messages > > Doug > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM, R??mi Rampin wrote: > > > 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : > > > I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? > > > It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't > request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting > content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got > (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" are > really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content > into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm > from Ycountry and use Python"). > > I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their must > be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this list? > > The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment > > where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, > launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This > community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to everyone. > > [...] > > Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may include > > your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. Remember, > this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be stored > publicly for a very long time. > > The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, "large > audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. But I > don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were these > would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > > Cheers > -- > R??mi > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing listPSF-Community at python.orghttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- > Alex Kavanagh > Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name > @ajkavanagh > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing listPSF-Community at python.orghttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- > C. Titus Brown, ctbrown at ucdavis.edu > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing listPSF-Community at python.orghttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing listPSF-Community at python.orghttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cheeming at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 02:47:51 2015 From: cheeming at gmail.com (Chew Chee Ming) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:47:51 +0800 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Hi, I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). Great to read about others around the world. Chee Ming http://infinite-code.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cjwelborn at live.com Mon Sep 21 21:44:07 2015 From: cjwelborn at live.com (Christopher Welborn) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:44:07 -0500 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joshua at tellander.net Tue Sep 22 03:16:40 2015 From: joshua at tellander.net (joshua at tellander.net) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 01:16:40 +0000 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Hello, While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; I'm being honest and not rude. If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python group; then don't tell us who you are. When you have a python problem to solve, or a python question, say hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. We all like you, we don't like the spam. Thanks, Joshua Madison, WI On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" wrote: Hi, I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). Great to read about others around the world. Chee Ming http://infinite-code.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community From twotonespirit at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 03:23:29 2015 From: twotonespirit at gmail.com (Justin Myles Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:23:29 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Everyone's mileage varies of course, but I'm personally reading and enjoying every single one. And on the charge of it not being sufficiently python related: these people *are* python. I can't guarantee I'll remember everyone, but I may remember some names when I see them on name badges at PyCon. And what's the harm? Please just ignore them if you don't like them - no need to critique their neurochemical state or maternal relationship. I say keep the intros coming. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:16 PM, wrote: > Hello, > While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer > introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the > emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we > were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over > the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; > I'm being honest and not rude. > > If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe > have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say > hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python > group; then don't tell us who you are. > > When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, > state your name, then focus on the python details. > > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > > Thanks, > > Joshua > Madison, WI > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < > cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python > for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I > love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! > > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" > PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > > > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joshua at tellander.net Tue Sep 22 03:25:53 2015 From: joshua at tellander.net (joshua at tellander.net) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 01:25:53 +0000 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Good point :o) we *are* python. Have a food day/night everyone! Joshua On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:23 PM -0700, "Justin Myles Holmes" wrote: Everyone's mileage varies of course, but I'm personally reading and enjoying every single one. And on the charge of it not being sufficiently python related: these people *are* python. I can't guarantee I'll remember everyone, but I may remember some names when I see them on name badges at PyCon. And what's the harm? Please just ignore them if you don't like them - no need to critique their neurochemical state or maternal relationship. I say keep the intros coming. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:16 PM, wrote: > Hello, > While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer > introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the > emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we > were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over > the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; > I'm being honest and not rude. > > If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe > have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say > hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python > group; then don't tell us who you are. > > When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, > state your name, then focus on the python details. > > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > > Thanks, > > Joshua > Madison, WI > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < > cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python > for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I > love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! > > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" > PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > > > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alanfitzgerald at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 03:27:21 2015 From: alanfitzgerald at gmail.com (Alan Fitzgerald) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1442885241287.5780966@Nodemailer> Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, null wrote: > Hello, > While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; I'm being honest and not rude. > If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python group; then don't tell us who you are. > When you have a python problem to solve, or a python question, say hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > Thanks, > Joshua > Madison, WI > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" wrote: > Hi, > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python > for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I > love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" > PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jackiekazil at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 03:41:02 2015 From: jackiekazil at gmail.com (Jacqueline Kazil) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:41:02 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: <1442885241287.5780966@Nodemailer> References: <1442885241287.5780966@Nodemailer> Message-ID: Introductions allow for folks who are new to the community to understand who is lurking and allows for folks who have been a part of the community for awhile to see who is joining. If I was new to the community, and I posted an introduction and received a harsh email that discouraged me -- I might never come back or want to participate. Instead of going back and forth on this practice -- what if we started a thread called 'Introductions' or something like that? - Folks who want to read it can keep it coming in. - Folks who don't want to read it can filter that one thread (or threads). Yes? No? On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Alan Fitzgerald wrote: > Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the > unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, joshua at tellander.net < > joshua at tellander.net> wrote: > >> Hello, >> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >> I'm being honest and not rude. >> >> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >> group; then don't tell us who you are. >> >> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, >> state your name, then focus on the python details. >> >> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joshua >> Madison, WI >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >> >> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >> Great to read about others around the world. >> >> >> Chee Ming >> http://infinite-code.com/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No? > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Alan Fitzgerald > wrote: > >> Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the >> unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, joshua at tellander.net < >> joshua at tellander.net> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >>> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >>> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >>> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >>> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >>> I'm being honest and not rude. >>> >>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >>> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >>> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >>> group; then don't tell us who you are. >>> >>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say >>> hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>> >>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joshua >>> Madison, WI >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >>> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >>> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >>> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>> >>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >>> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>> Great to read about others around the world. >>> >>> >>> Chee Ming >>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > > > -- > Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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No? > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Alan Fitzgerald > wrote: > >> Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the >> unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, joshua at tellander.net < >> joshua at tellander.net> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >>> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >>> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >>> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >>> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >>> I'm being honest and not rude. >>> >>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >>> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >>> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >>> group; then don't tell us who you are. >>> >>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say >>> hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>> >>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joshua >>> Madison, WI >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >>> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >>> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >>> love how Python works, and never looked back. 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URL: From iqbal at pycon.my Tue Sep 22 03:53:24 2015 From: iqbal at pycon.my (Iqbal Abdullah) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 10:53:24 +0900 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, Thank you to Ewa for setting up a community list to connect us all together. There has been some flack on the self-introductions, but as Justin mentioned in a different thread: "We *are* python". And since the purpose of this list is: "The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an environment where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share experiences, launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests." I am happy to read many of us sharing our python experiences and also doing a really good job at giving back to the community or working hard to be better at python. In the same spirit, my name is Iqbal and I am residing in Tokyo. Community wise, me and a few friends founded PyCon JP in 2011 with the first mini PyCon with 100 people coming and enjoying a day of python tracks. We've been doing regular local PyCons since then: we hosted PyCon APAC in 2013 in Tokyo and our upcoming PyCon JP 2015 will be held on Oct 9th 2015 in Tokyo. We expect 500 people to come and join us. Tickets are still on sale if you're interested to check out how diverse and fun the PyCon in Tokyo is! (https://pycon.jp/2015/en/registration/) I am also the founder and chair for PyCon MY (Malaysia). We had our first mini PyCon MY in 2014, with a small group of 70 people participating for a one-day one-track event just to check out how much interest the community has for a local PyCon. We had wonderful feedback for the mini PyCon, and so we decided to have our first major local PyCon MY 2015 in Aug 21 to 23, which was a 2-track event, including a workshop for beginners (http://www.pycon.my). The community and our corporate sponsors was very encouraging and with their help, we managed to make it into a fun event! The plan now is to have a regular yearly local PyCon, to build up on the newly found interest for a local python conference. At the same time, I am also working closely with the larger APAC community (active participation is currently from SG, JP, TW, KR, MY, HK with PH showing strong interests). We are now working towards creating a common framework for the APAC countries to host an APAC PyCon (something like the EuroPython). I believe having a closer regional PyCon conference is beneficial for this part of the world, to support pythonistas that are not able to attend the larger US or Europe conferences due to financial, time and travel restrictions. The PSF has been supportive by granting us grants for the JP, MY PyCons and also supportive of our work for the APAC community. Van Lindberg was also in Taipei during the last APAC conference and was one of the panelist for our APAC community discussion event, giving insights on what the PSF can help with and ideas on how to move the APAC community forward. If you are interested to know more about JP, MY or the larger APAC community, please drop me an email. I will be more than happy to answer your questions. Live long and prosper, - Iqbal On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Christopher Welborn wrote: > My name is Chris Welborn. I live around Birmingham, AL (USA). I've been > writing code since childhood (32 now) using various languages, though Python > is definitely one of my favorites. I've also built a couple sites using > Django. It's really nice. > > It's hard for me to make it to the PyCons, but if I ever see one closer to > home I will be there. Like I said though, I live "around" Birmingham not in > it, so it makes it even harder for me to make it to meetups. > > As for the "introductions or not" discussion, I think it could be annoying > for some people at first, but surely the amount will settle a little after > some time. I also like reading the introductions to see what other people > are up to. I recently turned emails off for python-list because the amount > was too much, even as digests. I still read the list using Thunderbird and > GMane though. > > Sorry for the long message. You can find me on IRC (freenode, #python) as > cjwelborn, or on github as cjwelborn and welbornprod. I try to help out > where I can, and receive help from those that are more experienced than me. > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > From ehsan985 at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 03:56:48 2015 From: ehsan985 at gmail.com (Ehsan Keshavarzian) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:56:48 +1000 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <1442885241287.5780966@Nodemailer> Message-ID: There's always a nicer and better solution to everything and we are supposed to be (as programmers) solution makers. I like you and your manners Jacqueline. Thanks for your suggestion. I'm for it. Cheers On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jacqueline Kazil wrote: > Introductions allow for folks who are new to the community to understand > who is lurking and allows for folks who have been a part of the community > for awhile to see who is joining. > > If I was new to the community, and I posted an introduction and received a > harsh email that discouraged me -- I might never come back or want to > participate. > > Instead of going back and forth on this practice -- what if we started a > thread called 'Introductions' or something like that? > - Folks who want to read it can keep it coming in. > - Folks who don't want to read it can filter that one thread (or threads). > > Yes? No? > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Alan Fitzgerald > wrote: > >> Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the >> unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, joshua at tellander.net < >> joshua at tellander.net> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >>> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >>> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >>> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >>> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >>> I'm being honest and not rude. >>> >>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >>> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >>> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >>> group; then don't tell us who you are. >>> >>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say >>> hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>> >>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joshua >>> Madison, WI >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >>> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >>> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >>> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>> >>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >>> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>> Great to read about others around the world. >>> >>> >>> Chee Ming >>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > > > -- > Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Ehsan .Keshavarzian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm for it. > > Cheers > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jacqueline Kazil wrote: >> Introductions allow for folks who are new to the community to understand who is lurking and allows for folks who have been a part of the community for awhile to see who is joining. >> >> If I was new to the community, and I posted an introduction and received a harsh email that discouraged me -- I might never come back or want to participate. >> >> Instead of going back and forth on this practice -- what if we started a thread called 'Introductions' or something like that? >> - Folks who want to read it can keep it coming in. >> - Folks who don't want to read it can filter that one thread (or threads). >> >> Yes? No? >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Alan Fitzgerald wrote: >>> Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, joshua at tellander.net wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; I'm being honest and not rude. >>>> >>>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python group; then don't tell us who you are. >>>> >>>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a python question, say hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>>> >>>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Joshua >>>> Madison, WI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>>> >>>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>>> Great to read about others around the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chee Ming >>>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > -- > > > Ehsan .Keshavarzian > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That background got me my job at Google (offer extended and accepted in 2004 -- I only started in 2005 due to visa issues) which I still happily hold to this day. I'm currently working on the third edition of "Python in a Nutshell" - with two awesome co-authors, the above-mentioned Steve Holden (who essentially made the PSF *happen*, and was President for many years) and my wife Anna Ravenscroft (also a PSF Fellow) -- both of my co-authors are also winners of the Frank Willison award (Anna was the first woman so honored). Don't hold your breath -- all three of us have demanding full-time jobs, it WILL be quite a while before the 3rd edition (covering Python 2.7 AND 3.5) is ready for even public preview, sorry. But, it IS happening... we're racing towards the second milestone, "half chapters complete"...!-) Today, my role at work is leading the "1:many" team for Google Cloud tech support -- not fully Python-centric (as were my previous roles in Infrastructure, then Business Intelligence software) though of course Python IS a core language in Google Cloud (esp. but not exclusively in Google App Engine)... Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From srjptl2050 at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 05:51:56 2015 From: srjptl2050 at gmail.com (Suraj Patil) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:21:56 +0530 Subject: [PSF-Community] PSF-Community Digest, Vol 1, Issue 22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My apologies to those who get yet another introduction email. Hello everyone, I am Suraj from Pune, India, I've been using python since four years now, at home and one year at work to automate business pocesses, I love the language and was surprised to be added to this DL! I love python so much that when I was in college they used to call me a marketing guy of PSF. I have written a small script to extract firefox & chrome browsing history and bookmarks, http://github.com/thewhitetulip/pyfox Regards, Suraj On 9/22/15, psf-community-request at python.org wrote: > Send PSF-Community mailing list submissions to > psf-community at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > psf-community-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > psf-community-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PSF-Community digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Introductions (Chew Chee Ming) > 2. Re: Introductions (Christopher Welborn) > 3. Re: STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS (joshua at tellander.net) > 4. Re: STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS (Justin Myles Holmes) > 5. Re: STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS (joshua at tellander.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:47:51 +0800 > From: Chew Chee Ming > To: psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Introductions > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi, > > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python > for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I > love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! > > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" > PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > > > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:44:07 -0500 > From: Christopher Welborn > To: psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] Introductions > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 01:16:40 +0000 > From: > To: , > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello, > > While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer > introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the > emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we > were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over > the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; > I'm being honest and not rude. > > > If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe > have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say > hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python > group; then don't tell us who you are. > > > When you have a python problem to solve, or a python question, say hi, state > your name, then focus on the python details. > > > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > > > Thanks, > > > Joshua > > Madison, WI > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" > wrote: > Hi, > > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python > for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I > love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! > > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" > PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > > > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 21:23:29 -0400 > From: Justin Myles Holmes > To: joshua at tellander.net > Cc: cheeming at gmail.com, psf-community at python.org > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Everyone's mileage varies of course, but I'm personally reading and > enjoying every single one. > > And on the charge of it not being sufficiently python related: these people > *are* python. > > I can't guarantee I'll remember everyone, but I may remember some names > when I see them on name badges at PyCon. > > And what's the harm? Please just ignore them if you don't like them - no > need to critique their neurochemical state or maternal relationship. > > I say keep the intros coming. > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:16 PM, wrote: > >> Hello, >> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate >> the >> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If >> we >> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all >> over >> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember >> you; >> I'm being honest and not rude. >> >> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then >> say >> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >> group; then don't tell us who you are. >> >> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, >> state your name, then focus on the python details. >> >> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joshua >> Madison, WI >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >> >> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >> Great to read about others around the world. >> >> >> Chee Ming >> http://infinite-code.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 01:25:53 +0000 > From: > To: > Cc: , > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Good point :o) we *are* python. > > > Have a food day/night everyone! > > > Joshua > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 6:23 PM -0700, "Justin Myles Holmes" > wrote: > Everyone's mileage varies of course, but I'm personally reading and > enjoying every single one. > > And on the charge of it not being sufficiently python related: these people > *are* python. > > I can't guarantee I'll remember everyone, but I may remember some names > when I see them on name badges at PyCon. > > And what's the harm? Please just ignore them if you don't like them - no > need to critique their neurochemical state or maternal relationship. > > I say keep the intros coming. > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:16 PM, wrote: > >> Hello, >> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate >> the >> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If >> we >> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all >> over >> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember >> you; >> I'm being honest and not rude. >> >> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then >> say >> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >> group; then don't tell us who you are. >> >> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, >> state your name, then focus on the python details. >> >> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joshua >> Madison, WI >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >> >> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >> Great to read about others around the world. >> >> >> Chee Ming >> http://infinite-code.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > ------------------------------ > > End of PSF-Community Digest, Vol 1, Issue 22 > ******************************************** > From satishvis at yahoo.com Tue Sep 22 08:28:31 2015 From: satishvis at yahoo.com (Satish Viswanathan) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [PSF-Community] Introduction Message-ID: <539550014.1185905.1442903311173.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi All, I am Satish Viswanathan from New Delhi india, I am the director of Temkey Consulting, a startup for consulting and training on Project Management, Logistics and IT. Have been using Python for about 12 years for my private projects, now using it as a powertool for SCM optimization. It is a pleasure to hear, see, read and be in the company of the greats giving their introductions. People whom we see and look up with awe and admiration - Wow. This is for all the opponents of Introductions. Hope to contribute something back to the community. And Python makes it possible. ?Regards and Best Wishes Satish Viswanathan + 91 9968121333 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mahmoud at hatnote.com Tue Sep 22 08:40:35 2015 From: mahmoud at hatnote.com (Mahmoud Hashemi) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 23:40:35 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] Intromeme Message-ID: If Alex Martelli is doing it , then brace yourselves because the floodgates are open. I first used Python as a junior in a South Dakota high school, off a Knoppix CD because "Live CDs " were all the rage then. It was a good fad because I didn't have a computer, and the Windows machines at school weren't writable and didn't have Python (2.2 at the time). I read a bit of the tutorial and wrote a really bad prime number sieve . After a professional loop through Java, C++, C#, and finally PHP, I resumed Python development in 2009 as a full-stack web developer at PayPal. I wrote the tool that (still) manages all the pricing arrangements. >From there I hired my first teammate and we wrote a couple other business-critical components before standardizing out PayPal's first grassroots alternative stack. That was early 2011 and since then we've had a lot of fun and come so far . Now we're focusing on PayPal's security offerings: putting Python at the very heart of PayPal's availability model, handling *billions* of requests per day. And believe me when I say that's it's the best thing that's happened to PayPal's security in a long time! The details will have to wait for a future blog post (and upcoming O'Reilly project). Or, if you're remotely as excited as I am, you can email me directly. :) On the side, I really enjoy working on Wikipedia -based projects under the banner of Hatnote , all Python. Most recently, we did the official Wikipedia IFTTT channel (handling 1.3 million requests per day). And because I can't get enough, a bunch of open-source stuff , most notably Boltons , where I've been particularly busy lately. If you're in the Bay Area, do *not* hesitate to reach out to talk about Python, Wikipedia, security, federated and open systems (like BBS stuff), or even PayPal! Specifically, this is sort of odd, but October 14th at 1pm, I'm doing an overview of Python usage at PayPal, and would like to invite anyone senior and curious to be my guest and come to PayPal in San Jose to check it out. Guido came in 2012 and he loved it . And stuff now is waaaay cooler! 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If we > were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over > the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; > I'm being honest and not rude. > > If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe > have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say > hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python > group; then don't tell us who you are. > > When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, > state your name, then focus on the python details. > > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > > Thanks, > > Joshua > Madison, WI > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < > cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python > for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I > love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! > > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" > PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > > > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.lindberg at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 09:00:48 2015 From: van.lindberg at gmail.com (VanL) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:00:48 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] WhatsApp chat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ...and if you want to respond to Mehrdad, please do so in a private email to him. Thanks! _________________________________ Van Lindberg van.lindberg at gmail.com m: 214.364.7985 On Sep 22, 2015 7:58 AM, "Mehrdad Dadvand" wrote: > Hi all > Is there anyone in whatsApp to chat about python and more? > If it's possible and you what please send me phone number of whatsApp > Tnx all > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dadvand.mehrdad at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 09:22:37 2015 From: dadvand.mehrdad at gmail.com (Mehrdad Dadvand) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:52:37 +0430 Subject: [PSF-Community] Telegram group In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all What's your vote to create telegram groups For example a group socially for django or twisted or PIL or socket and so more -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm for it. > > Cheers > >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jacqueline Kazil wrote: >> Introductions allow for folks who are new to the community to understand who is lurking and allows for folks who have been a part of the community for awhile to see who is joining. >> >> If I was new to the community, and I posted an introduction and received a harsh email that discouraged me -- I might never come back or want to participate. >> >> Instead of going back and forth on this practice -- what if we started a thread called 'Introductions' or something like that? >> - Folks who want to read it can keep it coming in. >> - Folks who don't want to read it can filter that one thread (or threads). >> >> Yes? No? >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Alan Fitzgerald wrote: >>> Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, joshua at tellander.net wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; I'm being honest and not rude. >>>> >>>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python group; then don't tell us who you are. >>>> >>>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a python question, say hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>>> >>>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Joshua >>>> Madison, WI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>>> >>>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>>> Great to read about others around the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chee Ming >>>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > -- > > > Ehsan .Keshavarzian > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at ilovetux.com Tue Sep 22 09:24:07 2015 From: me at ilovetux.com (iLoveTux -) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 03:24:07 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] [ PSF community ] my introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, World: I, too, have been lurking in the background trying to see what the general consensus was around these introductions. As most people seem in favor of them, I've decided to add mine. Online I go by the pseudonym iLoveTux, although my real name is Cliff. I started programming in the '97 with QBasic (that's what was taught in my high school's intro to computer programming class) and moved on to Pascal, but I stuck with QBasic for my hobbyist adventures (I credit this to an online publication called "The QuickBasic Fanzine" which kept my interest). Around this time I got very interested in the move to object oriented programming, and started in on C++ (and subsequently C), but life got in the way of pursuing my career as a software developer. In 2003, I was arrested for three counts of armed robbery and spent 5+ years in prison. I was then released on parole in 2008 and pursued any employment I could find. I worked at McDonald's for about 4 years (I made it to manager after 6 months which is about the time I met my loving wife), then I learned how to make hand tossed New York style pizza, which earned me more money than McDonald's. This is about the time that I had my first child, a boy, and I soon became manager of the pizza shop. I then got a job offer, my uncle who I would talk to on the phone about random computer stuff (I never lost my interest in computer programming) had an opening for a developer and wanted me to learn Python, so I hopped on codeacademy and started to learn. A few months later (I still had to work), I was ready to move on and start this new job. It is around this time that I had my second son. Well, my new job was to develop a tool to help manage multiple IBM DataPower appliances. After three rewrites, I have a pretty cool architecture, although right now there is a big cleanup effort going on because I just learned about what are probably the two best, and underutilized tools for working on large applications in Python, setuptools entry_points (for a ready-made plug-in system), and (while not strictly a Python tool) git submodules. Also, I have incorporated the Anaconda/MiniConda Python Distributions to serve the same purpose as the (new in Python 3.5) embedded distribution of Python. So three new things added to our product caused a major need for some major cleanup, but it's going well especially for a product that has taught me (through trial and error) so much about real-world programming. Also, recently I became enamored with the (new to me) concept of Test Driven Development (remember I had dropped out of the scene from 2003-2013). To start with this concept I created a project called data.store which acts as a primitive database whose syntax is inspired by MongoDB. You can check this out at https://github.com/ilovetux/datastore or just "pip install data.store" Anyway, that's the abbridged version. With an eye to the future I'm pursuing a udacity nano-degree in full stack development and otherwise trying to keep busy. I have also just added my third child, a daughter, to our family. I hope everyone on this list is having as much fun in life as I am! If anyone needs any help our just want to talk shop, you can email me at me at ilovetux.com, and if you want to check out my (not quite abandoned) blog you can find it at www.ilovetux.com. 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Personally I don't see the need for something like this as it would kind of compete with pre-existing communities :-) - Horst > Mehrdad Dadvand > 22 Sep 2015 09:22 > > Hi all > What's your vote to create telegram groups > For example a group socially for django or twisted or PIL or socket > and so more > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dattaniharsh12 at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 09:33:51 2015 From: dattaniharsh12 at gmail.com (Harsh Dattani) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:03:51 +0530 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: <0977272E-C18C-4107-992A-BB3AE5891F5B@gmail.com> References: <1442885241287.5780966@Nodemailer> <0977272E-C18C-4107-992A-BB3AE5891F5B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, A thread dedicated to Introduction is must, so we all can know who all other members are and can also introduce own self to them. On Sep 22, 2015 12:57 PM, wrote: > Or we can devise a solution just for introduction apart from Facebook and > Google+ powered by Python :) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22-Sep-2015, at 7:26 AM, Ehsan Keshavarzian wrote: > > There's always a nicer and better solution to everything and we are > supposed to be (as programmers) solution makers. I like you and your > manners Jacqueline. Thanks for your suggestion. I'm for it. > > Cheers > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jacqueline Kazil > wrote: > >> Introductions allow for folks who are new to the community to understand >> who is lurking and allows for folks who have been a part of the community >> for awhile to see who is joining. >> >> If I was new to the community, and I posted an introduction and received >> a harsh email that discouraged me -- I might never come back or want to >> participate. >> >> Instead of going back and forth on this practice -- what if we started a >> thread called 'Introductions' or something like that? >> - Folks who want to read it can keep it coming in. >> - Folks who don't want to read it can filter that one thread (or >> threads). >> >> Yes? No? >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Alan Fitzgerald < >> alanfitzgerald at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Totally agree, please stop. Moments ago I was looking for the >>> unsubscribe...holding off now hoping the spam stops. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 9:18 PM, joshua at tellander.net < >>> joshua at tellander.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >>>> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >>>> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >>>> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >>>> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >>>> I'm being honest and not rude. >>>> >>>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the >>>> globe have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and >>>> then say hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome >>>> python group; then don't tell us who you are. >>>> >>>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say >>>> hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>>> >>>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Joshua >>>> Madison, WI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >>>> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using >>>> Python for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile >>>> apps. I love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>>> >>>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >>>> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>>> Great to read about others around the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chee Ming >>>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > > > -- > > > Ehsan .Keshavarzian > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is people starting out expressing where they are from. > > If you don't like it, don't participate; if you wish to see a discussion > around some substantial Python question, start one! > > Thanks, > Van > > _________________________________ > Van Lindberg > van.lindberg at gmail.com > m: 214.364.7985 > On Sep 22, 2015 2:18 AM, wrote: > >> Hello, >> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >> I'm being honest and not rude. >> >> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >> group; then don't tell us who you are. >> >> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, >> state your name, then focus on the python details. >> >> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joshua >> Madison, WI >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >> >> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >> Great to read about others around the world. >> >> >> Chee Ming >> http://infinite-code.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Abu Ashraf Masnun | +8801711960803 | http://masnun.me -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cjbarnes18 at member.fsf.org Tue Sep 22 09:28:55 2015 From: cjbarnes18 at member.fsf.org (Craig Barneses) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:28:55 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] Code Clubs in Rugby UK Message-ID: <56010337.1080001@member.fsf.org> Hi All, I'm starting a couple of code clubs at schools in Rugby UK this year, I'm also part of "Rugby Open Code Club aka ROCC" which is primarily for teens and grown up's. If there is anyone in my area on this list that that would like to help out at the schools, or would like more information about ROCC, please let me know. By the way. My name is Craig, I'm recovering from PyconUK which concluded with a bomb yesterday. I have been using Python for ~7 years, have contributed to Qtile, Tryton, and Saltstack to a small degree. Thank you for inviting me to this list. From harshjv at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 10:56:43 2015 From: harshjv at gmail.com (Harsh Vakharia) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:26:43 +0530 Subject: [PSF-Community] No more me In-Reply-To: <37249B7A-5366-4198-8576-5EB4643E0230@doughellmann.com> References: <20150921163644.GA11374@idyll.org> <37249B7A-5366-4198-8576-5EB4643E0230@doughellmann.com> Message-ID: Hello guys, I've created a Slack channel for Python Community (open for everyone ?). Anyone can join this channel from https://python-community-slack.herokuapp.com (open for everyone ?) Channel URL: https://python-community.slack.com (open for everyone ?) Come let's introduce ourselves there! Harsh :) On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > On Sep 21, 2015, at 12:36 PM, C. Titus Brown > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 04:18:26PM +0100, Alex Kavanagh wrote: > >>> The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, > >> "large audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see > how > >> introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. > But I > >> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were > these > >> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > >> > >> I agree. Please also don't subscribe me to a high-volume mailing-list > >> where people introduce themselves. > > > > Hi all, > > > > I wanted to speak to this point about directly being subscribed -- > > > > I received an invitation to join the mailing list, and I confirmed. I > was > > not subscribed automatically. So I think the admins did not do anything > > underhanded or inappropriate, unless they directly subscribed people > other > > than me. (If this did happen, the admins should apologize and do better > > next time.) > > > > Also, Ewa Jodlowska (Director of Operations for PSF) invited > introductions on > > September 19th, in response to Manuel Kaufmann. I think engaging > directly > > with Ewa or the list moderators to express disapproval would be less > > intrusive then sending e-mails to the entire list. > > > > Personally, I agree with Yarko and Van about being welcoming and either > > digesting or unsubscribing if you can't handle the list volume. > > > > cheers, > > ?titus > > +1 ? it?s great to see a PSF mailing list full of nice messages > > Doug > > > > >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 4:11 PM, R??mi Rampin > wrote: > >> > >>> 2015-09-21 11:03 EDT, Justin Myles Holmes : > >>> > >>>> I'm enjoying reading them. Is it so much of an inconvenience? > >>>> > >>> > >>> It is. I was surprised to get subscribed to this mailing-list (I didn't > >>> request it), but was ok with it if it was to be filled with interesting > >>> content relating to Python communities. The first few emails I got > >>> (conferences, calls for speakers) were fine, but these "presentations" > are > >>> really pointless and nothing but spam (at least Manuel put some content > >>> into it; I fail to see why anyone would enjoy reading "my name is X I'm > >>> from Ycountry and use Python"). > >>> > >>> I have nothing against this kind of email, but I really think their > must > >>> be a better place for them. Or did I misunderstand the purpose of this > list? > >>> > >>> The purpose of the psf-community mailing list is to provide an > environment > >>>> where pythonistas can communicate with a large audience, share > experiences, > >>>> launch projects, and/or discuss their Python & OSS interests. This > >>>> community mailing list will have public archives, accessible to > everyone. > >>> > >>> [...] > >>> > >>> Keep in mind that a large audience will see your posts. This may > include > >>>> your current or future employers. Take care in what you write. > Remember, > >>>> this mailing list is publicly archived, and that your words will be > stored > >>>> publicly for a very long time. > >>> > >>> > >>> The mailing-list's description does mention that it is an archived, > "large > >>> audience" list for projects, experiences and OSS. I fail to see how > >>> introductions from every Python user around the world fit into this. > But I > >>> don't have anything against a separate, high-volume mailing-list were > these > >>> would take place (so long as no one subscribes me to it). > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> -- > >>> R??mi > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> PSF-Community mailing list > >>> PSF-Community at python.org > >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Alex Kavanagh > >> Home: http://alex.kavanagh.name > >> @ajkavanagh > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PSF-Community mailing list > >> PSF-Community at python.org > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > > > -- > > C. Titus Brown, ctbrown at ucdavis.edu > > _______________________________________________ > > PSF-Community mailing list > > PSF-Community at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harshjv at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 10:57:30 2015 From: harshjv at gmail.com (Harsh Vakharia) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:27:30 +0530 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Hello guys, I've created a Slack channel for Python Community (open for everyone ?). Anyone can join this channel from https://python-community-slack.herokuapp.com (open for everyone ?) Channel URL: https://python-community.slack.com (open for everyone ?) Come let's introduce ourselves there! Harsh :) On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM, wrote: > Hello, > While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer > introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the > emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we > were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over > the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; > I'm being honest and not rude. > > If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe > have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say > hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python > group; then don't tell us who you are. > > When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, > state your name, then focus on the python details. > > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > > Thanks, > > Joshua > Madison, WI > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < > cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python > for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I > love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! > > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" > PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > > > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harshjv at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 10:59:54 2015 From: harshjv at gmail.com (Harsh Vakharia) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:29:54 +0530 Subject: [PSF-Community] Slack Channel Message-ID: Hello guys, I've created a Slack channel for Python Community (open for everyone ?). Anyone can join this channel from https://python-community-slack.herokuapp.com (open for everyone ?) Channel URL: https://python-community.slack.com (open for everyone ?) Come let's introduce ourselves there! 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[0] https://telegram.org/ Greetings. -- https://profiles.google.com/cherny.berbesi > On Sep 22, 2015, at 00:58, Mehrdad Dadvand wrote: > > Hi all > Is there anyone in whatsApp to chat about python and more? > If it's possible and you what please send me phone number of whatsApp > Tnx all > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jackiekazil at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 12:26:33 2015 From: jackiekazil at gmail.com (Jacqueline Kazil) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:26:33 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] [ PSF community ] my introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Loved reading about your transition -- there is a org in the DC area that helps folks basically go through the transition that you did, but in more of larger community supported / structured manner. More here: http://www.mission-launch.org/rebuilding_re_entry On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:24 AM, iLoveTux - wrote: > Hello, World: > > I, too, have been lurking in the background trying to see what the general > consensus was around these introductions. As most people seem in favor of > them, I've decided to add mine. > > Online I go by the pseudonym iLoveTux, although my real name is Cliff. I > started programming in the '97 with QBasic (that's what was taught in my > high school's intro to computer programming class) and moved on to Pascal, > but I stuck with QBasic for my hobbyist adventures (I credit this to an > online publication called "The QuickBasic Fanzine" which kept my interest). > Around this time I got very interested in the move to object oriented > programming, and started in on C++ (and subsequently C), but life got in > the way of pursuing my career as a software developer. > > In 2003, I was arrested for three counts of armed robbery and spent 5+ > years in prison. I was then released on parole in 2008 and pursued any > employment I could find. I worked at McDonald's for about 4 years (I made > it to manager after 6 months which is about the time I met my loving wife), > then I learned how to make hand tossed New York style pizza, which earned > me more money than McDonald's. This is about the time that I had my first > child, a boy, and I soon became manager of the pizza shop. I then got a job > offer, my uncle who I would talk to on the phone about random computer > stuff (I never lost my interest in computer programming) had an opening for > a developer and wanted me to learn Python, so I hopped on codeacademy and > started to learn. A few months later (I still had to work), I was ready to > move on and start this new job. It is around this time that I had my second > son. > > Well, my new job was to develop a tool to help manage multiple IBM > DataPower appliances. After three rewrites, I have a pretty cool > architecture, although right now there is a big cleanup effort going on > because I just learned about what are probably the two best, and > underutilized tools for working on large applications in Python, setuptools > entry_points (for a ready-made plug-in system), and (while not strictly a > Python tool) git submodules. Also, I have incorporated the > Anaconda/MiniConda Python Distributions to serve the same purpose as the > (new in Python 3.5) embedded distribution of Python. So three new things > added to our product caused a major need for some major cleanup, but it's > going well especially for a product that has taught me (through trial and > error) so much about real-world programming. > > Also, recently I became enamored with the (new to me) concept of Test > Driven Development (remember I had dropped out of the scene from > 2003-2013). To start with this concept I created a project called > data.store which acts as a primitive database whose syntax is inspired by > MongoDB. You can check this out at https://github.com/ilovetux/datastore > or just "pip install data.store" > > Anyway, that's the abbridged version. With an eye to the future I'm > pursuing a udacity nano-degree in full stack development and otherwise > trying to keep busy. I have also just added my third child, a daughter, to > our family. I hope everyone on this list is having as much fun in life as I > am! > > If anyone needs any help our just want to talk shop, you can email me at > me at ilovetux.com, and if you want to check out my (not quite abandoned) > blog you can find it at www.ilovetux.com. > > My other interests in addition to Python: > > Open Source Software > Linux (usually Fedora or CentOS) > ksh > Docker > Splunk > XML/XSLT/XPath > JQuery > HTML/CSS/JavaScript > Pandas > SQL > Regular Expressions > And a few others I can't think of right now > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jackiekazil at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 12:31:07 2015 From: jackiekazil at gmail.com (Jacqueline Kazil) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 06:31:07 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] Slack Channel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is my understanding that part of the purpose of this list was to have an open list w/ archives. While Slack has some great features -- supporting an open source community w/ free archive is not one of them. To my knowledge there is a 1000 message limit in history. The cost per user per month not sustainable for this community. On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Harsh Vakharia wrote: > Sorry for inconvenience, but due to a lot of introductory emails from > mailing-list (yes, i forgot to enable digest and do some filtering) I've > lost (deleted, permanently) an important mail today. Bad it was, but as a > solution, I thought of Slack and promoted it to mailing list so others can > feel free to use mailing list as they were using before and eliminate > further inconvenience to them. > > I regret for spamming about this, but the intention was of no commercial > promotion. > > Sorry again, > > Harsh > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at holdenweb.com Tue Sep 22 12:58:08 2015 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:58:08 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Joshua, While I appreciate and understand the sentiment behind your email I find it astonishingly unfriendly and unwelcoming, and don?t think this is the way we want to present ourselves to people who may be considering going their local Python community. The mission of the PSF is to promote the development of the language and the growth on the international Python community. There are already many adequate forums for asking Python questions, and I would remind you this list is called ?python-community,? not ?python-questions.? Please, next time you feel the need to post such an email. restrain yourself. Thanks. 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There are linkedin, about.me and other websites to do this job and people can add link to their profiles in their email signatures so they don't waste ~700 people's times (assuming ~50 are interested in reading those introductions) Best On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM Steve Holden wrote: > Joshua, > > While I appreciate and understand the sentiment behind your email I find > it astonishingly unfriendly and unwelcoming, and don?t think this is the > way we want to present ourselves to people who may be considering going > their local Python community. > > The mission of the PSF is to promote the development of the language and > the growth on the international Python community. There are already many > adequate forums for asking Python questions, and I would remind you this > list is called ?python-community,? not ?python-questions.? > > Please, next time you feel the need to post such an email. restrain > yourself. Thanks. > > S > > On Sep 22, 2015, at 2:16 AM, > wrote: > > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aclark at aclark.net Tue Sep 22 15:27:39 2015 From: aclark at aclark.net (Alex Clark) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 09:27:39 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Folks, Since this list is new, let's let everyone express their vision for in-scope content. I am +1 for continued introductions because I find them valuable. I am -1 for anyone trying to convince *me* they're not valuable to *me*. But I tolerate the continued attempts (to convince me they are not valuable to me), because in the worst case I can unsubscribe or filter. I will never attempt to convince anyone else what they should feel about the issue, and long term I'll most likely switch to reading this on GMANE. Would this list traffic be any less objectionable if it were "real content" (as dictated by someone's individual's standards)? I suspect "no", and therefore suggest folks uncomfortable with "introduction content" seek alternatives as I will do if I'm uncomfortable with "anti-introduction content". On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > It's not "python-introductions" either. There are linkedin, about.me and > other websites to do this job and people can add link to their profiles in > their email signatures so they don't waste ~700 people's times (assuming > ~50 are interested in reading those introductions) > > Best > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM Steve Holden wrote: > >> Joshua, >> >> While I appreciate and understand the sentiment behind your email I find >> it astonishingly unfriendly and unwelcoming, and don?t think this is the >> way we want to present ourselves to people who may be considering going >> their local Python community. >> >> The mission of the PSF is to promote the development of the language and >> the growth on the international Python community. There are already many >> adequate forums for asking Python questions, and I would remind you this >> list is called ?python-community,? not ?python-questions.? >> >> Please, next time you feel the need to post such an email. restrain >> yourself. Thanks. >> >> S >> >> On Sep 22, 2015, at 2:16 AM, >> wrote: >> >> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Alex Clark ? http://aclark.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dattaniharsh12 at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 15:29:04 2015 From: dattaniharsh12 at gmail.com (Harsh Dattani) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 13:29:04 +0000 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: +1 Alex On Tue, Sep 22, 2015, 6:57 PM Alex Clark wrote: > Folks, > > Since this list is new, let's let everyone express their vision for > in-scope content. I am +1 for continued introductions because I find them > valuable. I am -1 for anyone trying to convince *me* they're not valuable > to *me*. But I tolerate the continued attempts (to convince me they are > not valuable to me), because in the worst case I can unsubscribe or filter. > > I will never attempt to convince anyone else what they should feel about > the issue, and long term I'll most likely switch to reading this on GMANE. > > Would this list traffic be any less objectionable if it were "real > content" (as dictated by someone's individual's standards)? I suspect > "no", and therefore suggest folks uncomfortable with "introduction content" > seek alternatives as I will do if I'm uncomfortable with "anti-introduction > content". > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Amir Ladsgroup > wrote: > >> It's not "python-introductions" either. There are linkedin, about.me and >> other websites to do this job and people can add link to their profiles in >> their email signatures so they don't waste ~700 people's times (assuming >> ~50 are interested in reading those introductions) >> >> Best >> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM Steve Holden wrote: >> >>> Joshua, >>> >>> While I appreciate and understand the sentiment behind your email I find >>> it astonishingly unfriendly and unwelcoming, and don?t think this is the >>> way we want to present ourselves to people who may be considering going >>> their local Python community. >>> >>> The mission of the PSF is to promote the development of the language and >>> the growth on the international Python community. There are already many >>> adequate forums for asking Python questions, and I would remind you this >>> list is called ?python-community,? not ?python-questions.? >>> >>> Please, next time you feel the need to post such an email. restrain >>> yourself. Thanks. >>> >>> S >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 2:16 AM, < >>> joshua at tellander.net> wrote: >>> >>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > > > -- > Alex Clark ? http://aclark.net > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From antoine at python.org Tue Sep 22 12:35:08 2015 From: antoine at python.org (Antoine Pitrou) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 12:35:08 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] "stop the introductions" In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: <56012EDC.7020207@python.org> So while we do not have enough data right now, the question of mailing-list traffic may become legitimate. Too much traffic can deter people whose social, economic, personal environment does not allow them to make such an effort of skimming through 50+ daily emails. While open source communities do and will probably always promote people who have quite some free time anyway, I think it would be a worthwhile goal to try and moderate that bias. Regards Antoine. Le 22/09/2015 08:59, VanL a ?crit : > Joshua, > > These sort of introductions are in scope for this list, especially right > now as we are getting started. It isn't spam - no one is selling Viagra > or penny stocks. This is people starting out expressing where they are from. > > If you don't like it, don't participate; if you wish to see a discussion > around some substantial Python question, start one! > > Thanks, > Van > > _________________________________ > Van Lindberg > van.lindberg at gmail.com > m: 214.364.7985 > > On Sep 22, 2015 2:18 AM, > wrote: > > Hello, > While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to > offer introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't > appreciate the emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; > not who you are. If we were a team of 20 people introductions would > be great, but we are all over the world and introductions are > pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; I'm being honest and not > rude. > > If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the > globe have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, > and then say hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of > this awesome python group; then don't tell us who you are. > > When you have a python problem to solve, or a _python_ question, say > hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. > > We all like you, we don't like the spam. > > Thanks, > > Joshua > Madison, WI > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" > > wrote: > > Hi, > > I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using > Python for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering > mobile apps. I love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim > for life! > > We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a > "mini" PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). > Great to read about others around the world. > > > Chee Ming > http://infinite-code.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > From rhys.yorke at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 00:51:43 2015 From: rhys.yorke at gmail.com (Rhys Yorke) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 18:51:43 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions Message-ID: Well, it looks like introductions are in order then. One thing I have always appreciated about Python in particular is its welcoming community. With a few exceptions, the community has been composed of some of the most friendly and helpful people I've had the opportunity to meet. I met a few of you at *PyCon 2015* this year, and spent some time playing a few great board games (Kenneth and Lacey, I'm looking at you). Currently, I'm working as a *Sr. Full Stack Developer*, and while I don't have an opportunity to use Python everyday (our tech stack is Rails), I do reach for it when I get the opportunity to - and I'd certainly love the opportunity to use it more frequently. Of particular interest for me is *machine learning* and *game development* (I spent several years in the entertainment industry before turning to web development),* teaching*, *writing*, as well as *craftsmanship*. I'd love to become more involved with the Python community if the opportunity presents itself. Cheers, Rhys -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I agree with you that some people might leave the mailing list due to the harsh feedback, but some people may also leave the mailing list due to the enormous amount of introduction e-mails. It gets annoying after a while to keep being notified of new e-mails that are only introductions from lots of people around the globe. However, I don't think there is a thing we can do about it. Just stand it, for the sake of it :-) Actually, I think there is something we can do. As soon as we start talking about Python, it may get less annoying. Let's go! PS: About my introduction, my e-mail signature is enough, I think. Best regards, Marcel Ribeiro Dantas, Biomedical Engineering Researcher at LAIS Laboratory for Technological Innovation in Healthcare (LAIS-HUOL) Free Software Advocate - "An idea is only knowledge, when shared." http://mribeirodantas.fedorapeople.org mribeirodantas at fedoraproject.org mribeirodantas at lais.huol.ufrn.br -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uche at ogbuji.net Tue Sep 22 16:46:12 2015 From: uche at ogbuji.net (Uche Ogbuji) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 08:46:12 -0600 Subject: [PSF-Community] [ PSF community ] my introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just had to delurk to say "wow!" I've read every single one of these intro e-mail messages, despite being in a pretty busy period. I don't find them pointless at all, and I particularly enjoyed reading this fascinating introduction. Thanks for this, Cliff. The first thing that got me hooked on Python, back in '95 or so was its readability, but what has really always kept me in this community, starting with my trip to IPC7, Houston in '98 [1] has been the people. I hope we never grow too large, 700-member mailing list or no, to appreciate the individuals who keep it worth sticking around. [1] http://legacy.python.org/workshops/1998-11/proceedings.html --Uche On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 1:24 AM, iLoveTux - wrote: > Hello, World: > > I, too, have been lurking in the background trying to see what the general > consensus was around these introductions. As most people seem in favor of > them, I've decided to add mine. > > Online I go by the pseudonym iLoveTux, although my real name is Cliff. I > started programming in the '97 with QBasic (that's what was taught in my > high school's intro to computer programming class) and moved on to Pascal, > but I stuck with QBasic for my hobbyist adventures (I credit this to an > online publication called "The QuickBasic Fanzine" which kept my interest). > Around this time I got very interested in the move to object oriented > programming, and started in on C++ (and subsequently C), but life got in > the way of pursuing my career as a software developer. > > In 2003, I was arrested for three counts of armed robbery and spent 5+ > years in prison. I was then released on parole in 2008 and pursued any > employment I could find. I worked at McDonald's for about 4 years (I made > it to manager after 6 months which is about the time I met my loving wife), > then I learned how to make hand tossed New York style pizza, which earned > me more money than McDonald's. This is about the time that I had my first > child, a boy, and I soon became manager of the pizza shop. I then got a job > offer, my uncle who I would talk to on the phone about random computer > stuff (I never lost my interest in computer programming) had an opening for > a developer and wanted me to learn Python, so I hopped on codeacademy and > started to learn. A few months later (I still had to work), I was ready to > move on and start this new job. It is around this time that I had my second > son. > > Well, my new job was to develop a tool to help manage multiple IBM > DataPower appliances. After three rewrites, I have a pretty cool > architecture, although right now there is a big cleanup effort going on > because I just learned about what are probably the two best, and > underutilized tools for working on large applications in Python, setuptools > entry_points (for a ready-made plug-in system), and (while not strictly a > Python tool) git submodules. Also, I have incorporated the > Anaconda/MiniConda Python Distributions to serve the same purpose as the > (new in Python 3.5) embedded distribution of Python. So three new things > added to our product caused a major need for some major cleanup, but it's > going well especially for a product that has taught me (through trial and > error) so much about real-world programming. > > Also, recently I became enamored with the (new to me) concept of Test > Driven Development (remember I had dropped out of the scene from > 2003-2013). To start with this concept I created a project called > data.store which acts as a primitive database whose syntax is inspired by > MongoDB. You can check this out at https://github.com/ilovetux/datastore > or just "pip install data.store" > > Anyway, that's the abbridged version. With an eye to the future I'm > pursuing a udacity nano-degree in full stack development and otherwise > trying to keep busy. I have also just added my third child, a daughter, to > our family. I hope everyone on this list is having as much fun in life as I > am! > > If anyone needs any help our just want to talk shop, you can email me at > me at ilovetux.com, and if you want to check out my (not quite abandoned) > blog you can find it at www.ilovetux.com. > > My other interests in addition to Python: > > Open Source Software > Linux (usually Fedora or CentOS) > ksh > Docker > Splunk > XML/XSLT/XPath > JQuery > HTML/CSS/JavaScript > Pandas > SQL > Regular Expressions > And a few others I can't think of right now > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Uche Ogbuji http://uche.ogbuji.net Founding Partner, Zepheira http://zepheira.com Author, _Ndewo, Colorado_ http://uche.ogbuji.net/ndewo/ Founding editor, Kin Poetry Journal http://wearekin.org http://copia.ogbuji.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/ucheogbuji http://twitter.com/uogbuji -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tismer at stackless.com Tue Sep 22 16:58:51 2015 From: tismer at stackless.com (Christian Tismer) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 16:58:51 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] [ PSF community ] my introduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56016CAB.2070505@stackless.com> Hi Uche, yes, I remember very well, it was nice to see you at IPC7 in Houston. I will not elaborate here, would become too sentimental. See you next time at PyCon, I hope, talking then. cheers - chris On 22/09/15 16:46, Uche Ogbuji wrote: > I just had to delurk to say "wow!" I've read every single one of these > intro e-mail messages, despite being in a pretty busy period. I don't > find them pointless at all, and I particularly enjoyed reading this > fascinating introduction. Thanks for this, Cliff. > > The first thing that got me hooked on Python, back in '95 or so was its > readability, but what has really always kept me in this community, > starting with my trip to IPC7, Houston in '98 [1] has been the people. I > hope we never grow too large, 700-member mailing list or no, to > appreciate the individuals who keep it worth sticking around. > > [1] http://legacy.python.org/workshops/1998-11/proceedings.html > > > --Uche > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 1:24 AM, iLoveTux - > wrote: > > Hello, World: > > I, too, have been lurking in the background trying to see what the > general consensus was around these introductions. As most people > seem in favor of them, I've decided to add mine. > > Online I go by the pseudonym iLoveTux, although my real name is > Cliff. I started programming in the '97 with QBasic (that's what was > taught in my high school's intro to computer programming class) and > moved on to Pascal, but I stuck with QBasic for my hobbyist > adventures (I credit this to an online publication called "The > QuickBasic Fanzine" which kept my interest). Around this time I got > very interested in the move to object oriented programming, and > started in on C++ (and subsequently C), but life got in the way of > pursuing my career as a software developer. > > In 2003, I was arrested for three counts of armed robbery and spent > 5+ years in prison. I was then released on parole in 2008 and > pursued any employment I could find. I worked at McDonald's for > about 4 years (I made it to manager after 6 months which is about > the time I met my loving wife), then I learned how to make hand > tossed New York style pizza, which earned me more money than > McDonald's. This is about the time that I had my first child, a boy, > and I soon became manager of the pizza shop. I then got a job offer, > my uncle who I would talk to on the phone about random computer > stuff (I never lost my interest in computer programming) had an > opening for a developer and wanted me to learn Python, so I hopped > on codeacademy and started to learn. A few months later (I still had > to work), I was ready to move on and start this new job. It is > around this time that I had my second son. > > Well, my new job was to develop a tool to help manage multiple IBM > DataPower appliances. After three rewrites, I have a pretty cool > architecture, although right now there is a big cleanup effort going > on because I just learned about what are probably the two best, and > underutilized tools for working on large applications in Python, > setuptools entry_points (for a ready-made plug-in system), and > (while not strictly a Python tool) git submodules. Also, I have > incorporated the Anaconda/MiniConda Python Distributions to serve > the same purpose as the (new in Python 3.5) embedded distribution of > Python. So three new things added to our product caused a major need > for some major cleanup, but it's going well especially for a product > that has taught me (through trial and error) so much about > real-world programming. > > Also, recently I became enamored with the (new to me) concept of > Test Driven Development (remember I had dropped out of the scene > from 2003-2013). To start with this concept I created a project > called data.store which acts as a primitive database whose syntax is > inspired by MongoDB. You can check this out at > https://github.com/ilovetux/datastore or just "pip install data.store" > > Anyway, that's the abbridged version. With an eye to the future I'm > pursuing a udacity nano-degree in full stack development and > otherwise trying to keep busy. I have also just added my third > child, a daughter, to our family. I hope everyone on this list is > having as much fun in life as I am! > > If anyone needs any help our just want to talk shop, you can email > me at me at ilovetux.com , and if you want to > check out my (not quite abandoned) blog you can find it at > www.ilovetux.com . > > My other interests in addition to Python: > > Open Source Software > Linux (usually Fedora or CentOS) > ksh > Docker > Splunk > XML/XSLT/XPath > JQuery > HTML/CSS/JavaScript > Pandas > SQL > Regular Expressions > And a few others I can't think of right now > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > > -- > Uche Ogbuji http://uche.ogbuji.net > Founding Partner, Zepheira http://zepheira.com > Author, _Ndewo, Colorado_ http://uche.ogbuji.net/ndewo/ > Founding editor, Kin Poetry Journal http://wearekin.org > http://copia.ogbuji.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/ucheogbuji > http://twitter.com/uogbuji > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -- Christian Tismer :^) tismer at stackless.com Software Consulting : http://www.stackless.com/ Karl-Liebknecht-Str. 121 : https://github.com/PySide 14482 Potsdam : GPG key -> 0xFB7BEE0E phone +49 173 24 18 776 fax +49 (30) 700143-0023 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mark Lawrence From alfonsodg at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 19:24:28 2015 From: alfonsodg at gmail.com (Alfonso de la Guarda) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 12:24:28 -0500 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introductions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, My name is Alfonso de la Guarda from Lima - Per?, I have been working with python for 14 years in various research projects and technological development ranging from mining to military simulations (in fact I have participated in several conferences presenting such work but basically in South America), now I'm really into machine learning, big data and cloud computing with open stack applying this to the health sector. In addition to this years I was working in my country with the spread of the language through courses by some institutes and centers. Saludos, -------------------------------- Alfonso de la Guarda Twitter: @alfonsodg Redes sociales: alfonsodg Telef. 991935157 1024D/B23B24A4 5469 ED92 75A3 BBDB FD6B 58A5 54A1 851D B23B 24A4 On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:22 AM, VanL wrote: > To those asking about what is next, or not wanting to worry about > introductions: Introductions are a fine way to start things out. Let's make > sure that we welcome those who are sharing so that we can maintain this list > as a nice place to be. > > As to what is next, that is a good question. It's isn't for us to dictate. > Generally, what is on topic here are things that fellow Pythonistas will > find interesting and useful. Community events, calls for papers, discussions > of Python, of libraries, and of interesting articles. > > Aren't sure something that someone else posted is on topic? We should give > each other the benefit of the doubt before criticizing or using inflammatory > language. But let's try to keep this focused on things that are useful to > the community. > > Thanks, > > Van > > PSF Chair > > _________________________________ > Van Lindberg > van.lindberg at gmail.com > m: 214.364.7985 > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > From swfiua at gmail.com Tue Sep 22 19:59:04 2015 From: swfiua at gmail.com (John Gill) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:59:04 -0300 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introduction Message-ID: <87pp1a72tz.fsf@gmail.com> First, it has been good to see some familiar names on this list and some fascinating stories. I started using python in 2000. I'd kept seeing people suggesting "scripting it with python" too many times not to take a look and see what this python thing was. It was pretty much love at first sight. Lucky enough to attend several pycon's over the years and found many wonderful people along the way. I am currently living in Bermuda and have spent much of the last year working with others to develop free software and python community here. There are lots of pockets of python (and other free software) activity on this small island: * teachers using it to teach programming * robotics with raspberry pi's and arduino's * individuals running summer schools for young people * data analysis and risk modelling in finance companies * weather and environmental research * hackathons It is an exciting time. Lots of individual initiatives, with people just starting to discover what others are doing. I am hopeful we will be organising a mini conference some time soon -- will post details here as and when. In the meanwhile, would love to hear from any pythonistas visiting the island. 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URL: From lac at openend.se Tue Sep 22 23:27:26 2015 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 23:27:26 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] Search engines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201509222127.t8MLRQ5P012015@fido.openend.se> In a message of Wed, 23 Sep 2015 00:37:42 +0330, Mehrdad Dadvand writes: >When I subscribed psf there was one option on registration page that said >do you want to make search engines able to index your profile and make your >profile public? I choose yes. And now after 2 weeks I search my name in >Google and there is no sign of python and psf Menas search engines dont >find me in psf and show people my biology that I have written in my psf >profile Google has been slow hitting this place. There was something I posted to python-list in July I wanted to copy and paste to somebody else who needed the same thing about 2 weeks ago, and, Google hadn't been by. Note: It is possible to integrate a mailman mailing list with HT:Dig and thus make the whole mailing list searchable from the archive page. see: http://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20make%20the%20archives%20searchable We could do this. Laura From russg at rnstech.com Tue Sep 22 23:29:52 2015 From: russg at rnstech.com (Russ Gibson) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:29:52 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: <5601C850.5000607@rnstech.com> Advice taken, unsubscribing. --> Russ On 9/22/2015 6:27 AM, Alex Clark wrote: > Folks, > > Since this list is new, let's let everyone express their vision for > in-scope content. I am +1 for continued introductions because I find > them valuable. I am -1 for anyone trying to convince /me/ they're not > valuable to /me/. But I tolerate the continued attempts (to convince > me they are not valuable to me), because in the worst case I can > unsubscribe or filter. > > I will never attempt to convince anyone else what they should feel > about the issue, and long term I'll most likely switch to reading this > on GMANE. > > Would this list traffic be any less objectionable if it were "real > content" (as dictated by someone's individual's standards)?**I suspect > "no", and therefore suggest folks uncomfortable with "introduction > content" seek alternatives as I will do if I'm uncomfortable with > "anti-introduction content". > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Amir Ladsgroup > wrote: > > It's not "python-introductions" either. There are linkedin, > about.me and other websites to do this job and > people can add link to their profiles in their email signatures so > they don't waste ~700 people's times (assuming ~50 are interested > in reading those introductions) > > Best > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM Steve Holden > wrote: > > Joshua, > > While I appreciate and understand the sentiment behind your > email I find it astonishingly unfriendly and unwelcoming, and > don?t think this is the way we want to present ourselves to > people who may be considering going their local Python community. > > The mission of the PSF is to promote the development of the > language and the growth on the international Python community. > There are already many adequate forums for asking Python > questions, and I would remind you this list is called > ?python-community,? not ?python-questions.? > > Please, next time you feel the need to post such an email. > restrain yourself. 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URL: From rhysyorke at icloud.com Tue Sep 22 20:32:13 2015 From: rhysyorke at icloud.com (Rhys Yorke) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:32:13 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] Introduction In-Reply-To: <87pp1a72tz.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87pp1a72tz.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sounds like a perfect location to spend the cold winter months. At the first opportunity, I'm there! :) Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, John Gill wrote: > > First, it has been good to see some familiar names on this list and some > fascinating stories. > > I started using python in 2000. I'd kept seeing people suggesting > "scripting it with python" too many times not to take a look and see > what this python thing was. > > It was pretty much love at first sight. Lucky enough to attend several > pycon's over the years and found many wonderful people along the way. > > I am currently living in Bermuda and have spent much of the last year > working with others to develop free software and python community here. > > There are lots of pockets of python (and other free software) activity > on this small island: > > * teachers using it to teach programming > * robotics with raspberry pi's and arduino's > * individuals running summer schools for young people > * data analysis and risk modelling in finance companies > * weather and environmental research > * hackathons > > It is an exciting time. Lots of individual initiatives, with people > just starting to discover what others are doing. > > I am hopeful we will be organising a mini conference some time soon -- > will post details here as and when. > > In the meanwhile, would love to hear from any pythonistas visiting the > island. > > Johnny Gill > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community From stephane at wirtel.be Wed Sep 23 16:28:55 2015 From: stephane at wirtel.be (=?utf-8?q?St=C3=A9phane?= Wirtel) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 16:28:55 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] Telegram group In-Reply-To: <56010369.1050402@zerokspot.com> References: <56010369.1050402@zerokspot.com> Message-ID: <31B95F1F-D137-43A5-A330-7B2FC9FB6AC3@wirtel.be> Hi Mehrdad, Really, I am not for that, the PSF community is growing, and there is a limit for that. I prefer to use IRC or the emails (I don?t like to miss something) I already use IRC, Jabber, Slack, HipChat, Messenger and the emails. For my part, it?s enough. We have the mailing list, and this ML should be only one point for discussions. Why do you want to use Telegram ? Stephane On 22 Sep 2015, at 9:29, Horst Gutmann wrote: > Don't these groups usually already have dedicated lists? Personally I don't see the need for something like this as it would kind of compete with pre-existing communities :-) > > - Horst > >> Mehrdad Dadvand >> 22 Sep 2015 09:22 >> >> Hi all >> What's your vote to create telegram groups >> For example a group socially for django or twisted or PIL or socket and so more >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -- St?phane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >> I'm being honest and not rude. >> >> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >> group; then don't tell us who you are. >> >> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say hi, >> state your name, then focus on the python details. >> >> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joshua >> Madison, WI >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >> >> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >> Great to read about others around the world. >> >> >> Chee Ming >> http://infinite-code.com/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- *Claudio Sparpaglione* linkedin | twitter | website -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Claudio Sparpaglione wrote: > +1 for Harsh's idea about Slack > > > > Claudio > > On 22 September 2015 at 10:57, Harsh Vakharia wrote: > >> Hello guys, >> >> I've created a Slack channel for >> Python Community (open for everyone ?). >> >> Anyone can join this channel from >> https://python-community-slack.herokuapp.com (open for everyone ?) >> >> Channel URL: https://python-community.slack.com (open for everyone ?) >> >> Come let's introduce ourselves there! >> >> Harsh :) >> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM, wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >>> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >>> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >>> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >>> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >>> I'm being honest and not rude. >>> >>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >>> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >>> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >>> group; then don't tell us who you are. >>> >>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say >>> hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>> >>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joshua >>> Madison, WI >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >>> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >>> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >>> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>> >>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >>> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>> Great to read about others around the world. >>> >>> >>> Chee Ming >>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > > > -- > *Claudio Sparpaglione* > linkedin | twitter > | website > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -- Jacqueline Kazil | @jackiekazil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Emma From cherny.berbesi at gmail.com Thu Sep 24 14:42:57 2015 From: cherny.berbesi at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?=22Cherny_D=2E_C=2E_Berbes=C3=AD_I=2E_=28chachan=29=22?=) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 06:42:57 -0600 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: <5603E76F.8050103@levit.be> References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> <5603E76F.8050103@levit.be> Message-ID: <303A2922-57AB-4250-A38A-52B1A693B4B5@gmail.com> +1 Great idea -- https://profiles.google.com/cherny.berbesi > On Sep 24, 2015, at 06:07, Emmanuelle Delescolle wrote: > > >> However, one of the purposes of this list was to have an archive that is open. Slack does not provide this feature with out lots of $$$, which does not make this a viable option to achieve one of the goals that was intended of this list..... IMHO. >> > Slack has stated a while ago that they were looking into providing those features for free to OpenSource communities. Since the Python Community Slack has been created, it might be worth it for the PSF to ask them where they stand about this now and if they would be willing to enable the feature for this community. > > Cheers, > Emma > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu Thu Sep 24 14:46:32 2015 From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 14:46:32 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: <303A2922-57AB-4250-A38A-52B1A693B4B5@gmail.com> References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> <5603E76F.8050103@levit.be> <303A2922-57AB-4250-A38A-52B1A693B4B5@gmail.com> Message-ID: Am .09.2015, 14:42 Uhr, schrieb Cherny D. C. Berbes? I. (chachan) : > +1 > Great idea Terrible idea. Please take the discussions about what you'd like to replace the mailing list with elsewhere: it's just noise that has nothing to do with the "community". EOM From chris at improbable.org Thu Sep 24 15:47:32 2015 From: chris at improbable.org (Chris Adams) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:47:32 -0400 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jacqueline Kazil wrote: > However, one of the purposes of this list was to have an archive that is > open. Slack does not provide this feature with out lots of $$$, which does > not make this a viable option to achieve one of the goals that was intended > of this list..... IMHO. > Agreed - Slack is great for real-time communication, which doesn't feel like the right format for introductions. It feels like the best answer might be something like a profile page on the website where completed profiles could be selected and queued for some sort of regular ?We are Python? blog. Since I just made everyone's new mail notification to go off anyway, hi everyone. I live in Washington DC and work for the Library of Congress, which uses an increasingly large amount of Python both for special projects like wdl.org and viewshare.org, but also a growing number of core applications like https://loc.gov/search/ and https://congress.gov, http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/, etc. and as part of the content processing pipeline for many projects. There's a lot of non-Python open-source activity as well ? as you might imagine, Solr gets quite the workout ? and that's leading to more participation in the community, too: https://github.com/libraryofcongress. Finally, I'm a maintainer for django-haystack and pysolr ? if anyone is interested in contributing more to either of those projects, please get in touch. Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mertz at gnosis.cx Thu Sep 24 16:47:41 2015 From: mertz at gnosis.cx (David Mertz) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 07:47:41 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: I know that I for one will not join "yet another special communication channel" rather than email. I've never heard of slack, other than seeing that it's a walled garden. Other folks are welcome to use what they want, but choosing some non-standard flavor of the month will certainly exclude the majority of people who use universal email. On Sep 24, 2015 1:02 AM, "Claudio Sparpaglione" wrote: > +1 for Harsh's idea about Slack > > > > Claudio > > On 22 September 2015 at 10:57, Harsh Vakharia wrote: > >> Hello guys, >> >> I've created a Slack channel for >> Python Community (open for everyone ?). >> >> Anyone can join this channel from >> https://python-community-slack.herokuapp.com (open for everyone ?) >> >> Channel URL: https://python-community.slack.com (open for everyone ?) >> >> Come let's introduce ourselves there! >> >> Harsh :) >> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM, wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >>> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >>> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >>> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >>> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >>> I'm being honest and not rude. >>> >>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >>> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >>> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >>> group; then don't tell us who you are. >>> >>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say >>> hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>> >>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Joshua >>> Madison, WI >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >>> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >>> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >>> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>> >>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >>> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>> Great to read about others around the world. >>> >>> >>> Chee Ming >>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > > > -- > *Claudio Sparpaglione* > linkedin | twitter > | website > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stephane at wirtel.be Thu Sep 24 19:54:46 2015 From: stephane at wirtel.be (=?utf-8?q?St=C3=A9phane?= Wirtel) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 19:54:46 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: <6AA310B6-20A2-465E-981C-ABC66924D1C8@wirtel.be> Hi David, For my part, I explained I won?t use the slack channel, because we risk to be asynchronous. The priority channel is the mailing list. Why: 1. The PSF manages the servers and the mailing lists 2. We have the archives for free, just download the files from the web interface 3. There is no limit on the Mailing List 4. We don?t need a bot to extract the discussion to an archive ;-) 5. It?s free 6. There is IRC for a real time chat 7. You want to share an image, share it on your google+ account, imgur and share the link 8. There is no quota on the documents, limited with slack excepted if you have a free account 9. It?s asynchronous, we can reply to a thread at any time (real interesting for an international community) 10. I already have a client on Linux, OS X, Windows, iOS, Android, ncurses, etc? I already use a lot of communication tools, IRC, Jabber, Messenger, Slack, HipChat, ICQ, etc? but it?s too. It?s really boring to switch all the time and try to follow a thread or a topic :/ My 2 cents Stephane On 24 Sep 2015, at 16:47, David Mertz wrote: > I know that I for one will not join "yet another special communication > channel" rather than email. I've never heard of slack, other than seeing > that it's a walled garden. > > Other folks are welcome to use what they want, but choosing some > non-standard flavor of the month will certainly exclude the majority of > people who use universal email. > On Sep 24, 2015 1:02 AM, "Claudio Sparpaglione" wrote: > >> +1 for Harsh's idea about Slack >> >> >> >> Claudio >> >> On 22 September 2015 at 10:57, Harsh Vakharia wrote: >> >>> Hello guys, >>> >>> I've created a Slack channel for >>> Python Community (open for everyone ?). >>> >>> Anyone can join this channel from >>> https://python-community-slack.herokuapp.com (open for everyone ?) >>> >>> Channel URL: https://python-community.slack.com (open for everyone ?) >>> >>> Come let's introduce ourselves there! >>> >>> Harsh :) >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM, wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer >>>> introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the >>>> emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we >>>> were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over >>>> the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; >>>> I'm being honest and not rude. >>>> >>>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe >>>> have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say >>>> hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python >>>> group; then don't tell us who you are. >>>> >>>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a *python* question, say >>>> hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>>> >>>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Joshua >>>> Madison, WI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" < >>>> cheeming at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python >>>> for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I >>>> love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>>> >>>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" >>>> PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>>> Great to read about others around the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chee Ming >>>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PSF-Community mailing list >>>> PSF-Community at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Claudio Sparpaglione* >> linkedin | twitter >> | website >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -- St?phane Wirtel - http://wirtel.be - @matrixise -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is no quota on the documents, limited with slack excepted if you have a free account > 9. It?s asynchronous, we can reply to a thread at any time (real interesting for an international community) > 10. I already have a client on Linux, OS X, Windows, iOS, Android, ncurses, etc? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From harshjv at gmail.com Fri Sep 25 06:12:01 2015 From: harshjv at gmail.com (harshjv at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 09:42:01 +0530 Subject: [PSF-Community] STOP THE INTRODUCTIONS In-Reply-To: References: <56005314.2090102@cubo2.net> Message-ID: Slack is not a drop-in replacement over mailing-list for our Python community, but for social introductions and quick messages definitely slack can be used without message archives (or as Emmanuelle Delescolle pointed out, Python being Open Source, Slack can provide archiving feature for free). (FYI, so far 28 users have registered on Slack channel and is growing.) Sent from my iPhone > On 24-Sep-2015, at 8:17 PM, David Mertz wrote: > > I know that I for one will not join "yet another special communication channel" rather than email. I've never heard of slack, other than seeing that it's a walled garden. > > Other folks are welcome to use what they want, but choosing some non-standard flavor of the month will certainly exclude the majority of people who use universal email. > >> On Sep 24, 2015 1:02 AM, "Claudio Sparpaglione" wrote: >> +1 for Harsh's idea about Slack >> >> >> >> Claudio >> >>> On 22 September 2015 at 10:57, Harsh Vakharia wrote: >>> Hello guys, >>> >>> I've created a Slack channel for Python Community (open for everyone ?). >>> >>> Anyone can join this channel from https://python-community-slack.herokuapp.com (open for everyone ?) >>> >>> Channel URL: https://python-community.slack.com (open for everyone ?) >>> >>> Come let's introduce ourselves there! >>> >>> Harsh :) >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:46 AM, wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> While you all are wonderful people, there are too many of us to offer introductions. Stop introducing yourselves. Most of us don't appreciate the emails. Please keep the replies relating to python; not who you are. If we were a team of 20 people introductions would be great, but we are all over the world and introductions are pointless. Nobody is going to remember you; I'm being honest and not rude. >>>> >>>> If you feel the need to introduce yourself to a group spanning the globe have a nice chamomile tea, maybe a GABA pill, get some sleep, and then say hi to your mom and tell her how you are a member of this awesome python group; then don't tell us who you are. >>>> >>>> When you have a python problem to solve, or a python question, say hi, state your name, then focus on the python details. >>>> >>>> We all like you, we don't like the spam. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Joshua >>>> Madison, WI >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM -0700, "Chew Chee Ming" wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I am Chee Ming and I hail from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Been using Python for quite a few years, building web apps and APIs powering mobile apps. I love how Python works, and never looked back. And vim for life! >>>> >>>> We have a small Python community in Malaysia, but enough to do a "mini" PyCon recently (http://www.pycon.my/). >>>> Great to read about others around the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> Chee Ming >>>> http://infinite-code.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PSF-Community mailing list >>>> PSF-Community at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> >> >> -- >> Claudio Sparpaglione >> linkedin | twitter | website >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From huguestayittey14 at gmail.com Fri Sep 25 19:38:57 2015 From: huguestayittey14 at gmail.com (Huguest E. Ayittey) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:38:57 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) Message-ID: I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. 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If you're not, perhaps something like: - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the Terrifyingly Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed Shaw's Hard Way Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B > On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey wrote: > > I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. > Please try to work on my view, > thank you. > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From siggi at bjarnason.us Fri Sep 25 20:48:41 2015 From: siggi at bjarnason.us (Siggi Bjarnason) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:48:41 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com> References: <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Here are some learning resources I've found useful as well *Code Academy: *http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python Great beginner course, no prior experience necessary. Work at your own pace, takes approximately 13 hours to complete. *Google?s Python Class *https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ Coursera.org also has some Python classes. Siggi Bjarnason, W7RTF PVT WSG siggi at bjarnason.us http://www.supergeek.us http://www.linkedin.com/in/siggib http://www.facebook.com/sgb007 "In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and every other man is entitled not to listen." - G. Norman Collie On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Matt Rasband wrote: > I think you may be onto a good topic here, rather than asking for specific > things maybe we can expand this to be about learning resources for someone > new. > > If you're entirely new to programming I've found that this book is pretty > solid (it's not only for kids): > > - Python for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming > https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593274076/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_e5ybwb2BHG9JN > > It helps you get set up and gives you a direction along with general > background you may need. > > If you're not, perhaps something like: > > - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the > Terrifyingly Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed > Shaw's Hard Way Series) > https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B > > > On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey > wrote: > > I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can > teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had > video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up > for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult > programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python > for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do > anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat > and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It > has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program > just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. > Please try to work on my view, > thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From huguestayittey14 at gmail.com Fri Sep 25 22:11:22 2015 From: huguestayittey14 at gmail.com (Huguest E. Ayittey) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:11:22 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you all for they replies,they will be of great help.I will try each and every ones help and will get in touch with you once I have good news.Guess what,I told a friend about python and he is really in love with the idea of learning it.This help you guys have offered me will go a long way to help the both of us. Thank you pythonists,you are all really wonderful. On 25 September 2015 at 19:48, Siggi Bjarnason wrote: > Here are some learning resources I've found useful as well > > *Code Academy: *http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python > > Great beginner course, no prior experience necessary. Work at your own > pace, takes approximately 13 hours to complete. > > > > *Google?s Python Class *https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ > > > > Coursera.org also has some Python classes. > > > Siggi Bjarnason, W7RTF > PVT WSG > siggi at bjarnason.us > http://www.supergeek.us > http://www.linkedin.com/in/siggib > http://www.facebook.com/sgb007 > > "In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and > every > other man is entitled not to listen." > - G. Norman Collie > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Matt Rasband > wrote: > >> I think you may be onto a good topic here, rather than asking for >> specific things maybe we can expand this to be about learning resources for >> someone new. >> >> If you're entirely new to programming I've found that this book is pretty >> solid (it's not only for kids): >> >> - Python for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming >> https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593274076/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_e5ybwb2BHG9JN >> >> It helps you get set up and gives you a direction along with general >> background you may need. >> >> If you're not, perhaps something like: >> >> - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the >> Terrifyingly Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed >> Shaw's Hard Way Series) >> https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey >> wrote: >> >> I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can >> teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had >> video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up >> for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult >> programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python >> for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do >> anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat >> and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It >> has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program >> just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. >> Please try to work on my view, >> thank you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lac at openend.se Fri Sep 25 22:22:18 2015 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 22:22:18 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201509252022.t8PKMImA029166@fido.openend.se> If you have questions or want to talk about learning python there is the tutor mailing list. https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor We have quite a bit of fun there. Laura From joshua at tellander.net Fri Sep 25 22:21:45 2015 From: joshua at tellander.net (Joshua Tellander) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 15:21:45 -0500 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: , <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com>, , Message-ID: Also, udacity.com has a lot of free python courses. Most of their general computer science classes are based in python. You'll see that the nano degrees have a monthly cost, but all of the individual classes that make up the nano degree are free to view. I like udacity because the courses are created by individuals from big companies along with udacity employees. Joshua Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:11:22 +0100 From: huguestayittey14 at gmail.com To: siggi at bjarnason.us Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] (no subject) CC: psf-community at python.org Thank you all for they replies,they will be of great help.I will try each and every ones help and will get in touch with you once I have good news.Guess what,I told a friend about python and he is really in love with the idea of learning it.This help you guys have offered me will go a long way to help the both of us. Thank you pythonists,you are all really wonderful. On 25 September 2015 at 19:48, Siggi Bjarnason wrote: Here are some learning resources I've found useful as well Code Academy: http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python Great beginner course, no prior experience necessary. Work at your own pace, takes approximately 13 hours to complete. Google?s Python Class https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ Coursera.org also has some Python classes. Siggi Bjarnason, W7RTF PVT WSG siggi at bjarnason.us http://www.supergeek.us http://www.linkedin.com/in/siggib http://www.facebook.com/sgb007 "In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and every other man is entitled not to listen." - G. Norman Collie On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Matt Rasband wrote: I think you may be onto a good topic here, rather than asking for specific things maybe we can expand this to be about learning resources for someone new. If you're entirely new to programming I've found that this book is pretty solid (it's not only for kids): - Python for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593274076/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_e5ybwb2BHG9JN It helps you get set up and gives you a direction along with general background you may need. If you're not, perhaps something like: - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the Terrifyingly Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed Shaw's Hard Way Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey wrote: I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. Please try to work on my view, thank you. _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at holdenweb.com Fri Sep 25 23:37:49 2015 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 22:37:49 +0100 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <71B46663-7679-4453-A3B8-D52399FEDF3C@holdenweb.com> See, this is one reason why introductions are so valuable. We are beginning to perceive needs, and some of us may know resources that can help. As a long-term Python teacher I am really interested to hear that video instruction would be helpful. Those who like Python might want to know that the appearance of (British-designed) Raspberry Pi has done a lot to produce Python educational materials suitable for all ages (I?m still a kid at heart, and am not too proud to learn from children?s teaching materials when they help me learn what I want. Carrie Ann Philbin is a particularly good name to look for - she?s bright and communicative, without ever talking down to the viewer. She?s done quite a lot of good Python video. I know it?s difficult to get started when everythinh is completely alien, but stick with it, and ask for help. One thing they will definitely show you is that you learn a lot more when programming is fun, and you can share it with people across the world. Creating such a money is a part of the mission of the Python Software Foundation. If you are interested in becoming a member of the PSF (this is not a marketing message, or at least it didn?t start out as one ;-) it?s quite easy to join. If you?d like to know more, just go to https://www.python.org/psf/membership/ - theres no need for me to repeat the message. Please don?t think this is going to be a regular thing. By the way, every list should have a FAQ - we could put the PSF stuff in the FAQ, along with stuff like ?To introduce yourself, please send a message with the subject ?Introduction?, stuff like that. We (by which I mean you :-) could easily maintain a file on Bitbucket or Github, and the current version could be posted once a month so newcomers don?t have to wait too long before seeing it. S > On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Huguest E. Ayittey wrote: > > Thank you all for they replies,they will be of great help.I will try each and every ones help and will get in touch with you once I have good news.Guess what,I told a friend about python and he is really in love with the idea of learning it.This help you guys have offered me will go a long way to help the both of us. > Thank you pythonists,you are all really wonderful. > > On 25 September 2015 at 19:48, Siggi Bjarnason > wrote: > Here are some learning resources I've found useful as well > > Code Academy: http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python > Great beginner course, no prior experience necessary. Work at your own pace, takes approximately 13 hours to complete. > > > > Google?s Python Class https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ > > > Coursera.org also has some Python classes. > > > > Siggi Bjarnason, W7RTF > PVT WSG > siggi at bjarnason.us > http://www.supergeek.us > http://www.linkedin.com/in/siggib > http://www.facebook.com/sgb007 > > "In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and every > other man is entitled not to listen." > - G. Norman Collie > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Matt Rasband > wrote: > I think you may be onto a good topic here, rather than asking for specific things maybe we can expand this to be about learning resources for someone new. > > If you're entirely new to programming I've found that this book is pretty solid (it's not only for kids): > > - Python for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593274076/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_e5ybwb2BHG9JN > > It helps you get set up and gives you a direction along with general background you may need. > > If you're not, perhaps something like: > > - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the Terrifyingly Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed Shaw's Hard Way Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B > > > On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey > wrote: > >> I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. >> Please try to work on my view, >> thank you. >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > > > > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 25 September 2015 at 19:48, Siggi Bjarnason wrote: Here are some learning resources I've found useful as well Code Academy: http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python Great beginner course, no prior experience necessary. Work at your own pace, takes approximately 13 hours to complete. Google?s Python Class https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ Coursera.org also has some Python classes. Siggi Bjarnason, W7RTF PVT WSG siggi at bjarnason.us http://www.supergeek.us http://www.linkedin.com/in/siggib http://www.facebook.com/sgb007 "In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and every other man is entitled not to listen." - G. Norman Collie On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Matt Rasband wrote: I think you may be onto a good topic here, rather than asking for specific things maybe we can expand this to be about learning resources for someone new. If you're entirely new to programming I've found that this book is pretty solid (it's not only for kids): - Python for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593274076/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_e5ybwb2BHG9JN It helps you get set up and gives you a direction along with general background you may need. If you're not, perhaps something like: - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the Terrifyingly Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed Shaw's Hard Way Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey wrote: I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. Please try to work on my view, thank you. _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From diek at bellaliant.net Sat Sep 26 03:24:46 2015 From: diek at bellaliant.net (Derrick Kearney) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 22:54:46 -0230 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Not everyone has a coder on standby to teach. And even then if you think a programmer is going to walk you start to finish, then I think you need to read Matt Gemmell?s essay ?What Have You Tried? http://mattgemmell.com/what-have-you-tried/ If you can find a good coder, then a better approach is to ask them to be a mentor, vice a one on one tutor. I help admin 3 Python FB groups, we get more questions from people having trouble with Code Academy: http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python than all other sources of learning Python combined. It is a good place to reinforce learning/practise it does not build a strong foundation of the basic of Python or basic problem solving. Here are some solid first steps video. Coursera/University of Michigan https://www.coursera.org/learn/python ( for brand new programmers) Edx/MIT https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-computer-science-mitx-6-00-1x-5 ( more challenging, but still intended for new programmers), this course is also available self paced/not graded via MIT?s OpenCourseWare http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00- introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-fall-2008/ Books freely hosted online: Byte of Python http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/python/ also available as a free pdf Learn Python the Hard Way. is also online http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ Zed makes a disclaimer, that his book is meant for brand new programmers, it can be slow but it is a source that many people have used. Millions of visits. Concur with Google?s Python Class, particularly for those with existing programming experience. Paid Option. I learned a great deal from Michael Herman, Fletcher Heisler, Jeremy Johnson over @ Real Python, their Course, 3 books updated regularly. It was the best $60 I have even spent on learning. They use an tested and true approach, project driven learning. https://realpython.com/ Derrick From: PSF-Community on behalf of Dedi Setiabudidaya Date: Friday, September 25, 2015 at 10:31 PM To: "Huguest E. Ayittey" Cc: "psf-community at python.org" Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In my opinion, the best way to learn a skill is by asking one of our friends who has the skill to sit beside us and let him/her tell us what to do. Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:11:22 +0100 From: huguestayittey14 at gmail.com To: siggi at bjarnason.us Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] (no subject) CC: psf-community at python.org Thank you all for they replies,they will be of great help.I will try each and every ones help and will get in touch with you once I have good news.Guess what,I told a friend about python and he is really in love with the idea of learning it.This help you guys have offered me will go a long way to help the both of us. Thank you pythonists,you are all really wonderful. On 25 September 2015 at 19:48, Siggi Bjarnason wrote: > Here are some learning resources I've found useful as well > > > Code Academy: http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python > > > Great beginner course, no prior experience necessary. Work at your own pace, > takes approximately 13 hours to complete. > > > > Google?s Python Class https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ > > > > > Coursera.org also has some Python classes. > > > Siggi Bjarnason, W7RTF > PVT WSG > siggi at bjarnason.us > http://www.supergeek.us > http://www.linkedin.com/in/siggib > http://www.facebook.com/sgb007 > > "In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and every > other man is entitled not to listen." > - G. Norman Collie > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Matt Rasband wrote: >> I think you may be onto a good topic here, rather than asking for specific >> things maybe we can expand this to be about learning resources for someone >> new. >> >> If you're entirely new to programming I've found that this book is pretty >> solid (it's not only for kids): >> >> - Python for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming >> https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593274076/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_e5ybwb2BHG9JN >> >> It helps you get set up and gives you a direction along with general >> background you may need. >> >> If you're not, perhaps something like: >> >> - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the Terrifyingly >> Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed Shaw's Hard Way >> Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B >> >> >> On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey >> wrote: >> >>> I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can teach >>> each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had video >>> chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up for >>> python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult >>> programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python >>> for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do >>> anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat >>> and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It >>> has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program >>> just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. >>> Please try to work on my view, >>> thank you. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PSF-Community mailing list >> PSF-Community at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >> > _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kennethlove at gmail.com Sat Sep 26 03:50:03 2015 From: kennethlove at gmail.com (Kenneth Love) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:50:03 -0700 Subject: [PSF-Community] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: <81E2D440-7C5D-4D5F-8D73-5FD86DFB28E4@gmail.com> Message-ID: For another paid option, I teach Python at Treehouse (http://teamtreehouse.com ). Our plans start around $25/month and give you access to our entire library in case you want to learn other, non-Python things (for some weird reason). Kenneth > On Sep 25, 2015, at 18:24 , Derrick Kearney wrote: > > Hi, > Not everyone has a coder on standby to teach. And even then if you think a programmer is going to walk you start to finish, then I think you need to read Matt Gemmell?s essay ?What Have You Tried? http://mattgemmell.com/what-have-you-tried / If you can find a good coder, then a better approach is to ask them to be a mentor, vice a one on one tutor. > > I help admin 3 Python FB groups, we get more questions from people having trouble with Code Academy: http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python than all other sources of learning Python combined. It is a good place to reinforce learning/practise it does not build a strong foundation of the basic of Python or basic problem solving. > > Here are some solid first steps video. > Coursera/University of Michigan https://www.coursera.org/learn/python ( for brand new programmers) > Edx/MIT https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-computer-science-mitx-6-00-1x-5 ( more challenging, but still intended for new programmers), this course is also available self paced/not graded via MIT?s OpenCourseWare http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-00-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-fall-2008 / > > Books freely hosted online: > Byte of Python http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/python/ also available as a free pdf > Learn Python the Hard Way. is also online http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ > Zed makes a disclaimer, that his book is meant for brand new programmers, it can be slow but it is a source that many people have used. Millions of visits. > > Concur with Google?s Python Class, particularly for those with existing programming experience. > > Paid Option. > I learned a great deal from Michael Herman, Fletcher Heisler, Jeremy Johnson over @ Real Python, their Course, 3 books updated regularly. It was the best $60 I have even spent on learning. They use an tested and true approach, project driven learning. > https://realpython.com/ > Derrick > > From: PSF-Community > on behalf of Dedi Setiabudidaya > > Date: Friday, September 25, 2015 at 10:31 PM > To: "Huguest E. Ayittey" > > Cc: "psf-community at python.org " > > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] (no subject) > > In my opinion, the best way to learn a skill is by asking one of our friends who has the skill to sit beside us and let him/her tell us what to do. > > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 21:11:22 +0100 > From: huguestayittey14 at gmail.com > To: siggi at bjarnason.us > Subject: Re: [PSF-Community] (no subject) > CC: psf-community at python.org > > Thank you all for they replies,they will be of great help.I will try each and every ones help and will get in touch with you once I have good news.Guess what,I told a friend about python and he is really in love with the idea of learning it.This help you guys have offered me will go a long way to help the both of us. > Thank you pythonists,you are all really wonderful. > > On 25 September 2015 at 19:48, Siggi Bjarnason > wrote: >> Here are some learning resources I've found useful as well >> >> Code Academy: http://www.codecademy.com/en/tracks/python >> Great beginner course, no prior experience necessary. Work at your own pace, takes approximately 13 hours to complete. >> >> Google?s Python Class https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ >> >> Coursera.org also has some Python classes. >> >> >> Siggi Bjarnason, W7RTF >> PVT WSG >> siggi at bjarnason.us >> http://www.supergeek.us >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/siggib >> http://www.facebook.com/sgb007 >> >> "In free countries, every man is entitled to express his opinions and every >> other man is entitled not to listen." >> - G. Norman Collie >> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Matt Rasband > wrote: >>> I think you may be onto a good topic here, rather than asking for specific things maybe we can expand this to be about learning resources for someone new. >>> >>> If you're entirely new to programming I've found that this book is pretty solid (it's not only for kids): >>> >>> - Python for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming https://www.amazon.com/dp/1593274076/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_e5ybwb2BHG9JN >>> >>> It helps you get set up and gives you a direction along with general background you may need. >>> >>> If you're not, perhaps something like: >>> >>> - Learn Python the Hard Way: A Very Simple Introduction to the Terrifyingly Beautiful World of Computers and Code (3rd Edition) (Zed Shaw's Hard Way Series) https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321884914/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_jxzbwb02K2E0B >>> >>> >>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:38, Huguest E. Ayittey > wrote: >>> >>>> I was thinking if there could be a bigger chart room where members can teach each other and sharer their experiences with others.I wish we had video chats and instant messages,not always introductions.I have signed up for python,downloaded it but I have found out it is the most difficult programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program just staring into your face like that,with out any use,wasting memory space. >>>> Please try to work on my view, >>>> thank you. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PSF-Community mailing list >>>> PSF-Community at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PSF-Community mailing list >>> PSF-Community at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ PSF-Community mailing list PSF-Community at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ayittey wrote: > programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on python > for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do > anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video chat > and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to do.It > has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the program https://github.com/svaksha/pythonidae/blob/master/Resources.md#bootstrapping The `Resources.md` page also lists videos, cheatsheets, books etc.. and is by no means a comprehensive Python resource, so PR's are welcome. SVAKSHA ? http://about.me/svaksha ? 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Ayittey > wrote: > > programmer for beginner who are learning on their own.I have been on > python > > for about a month now and I still don't understand anything,and can't do > > anything with it.Please I think you have to develop python with video > chat > > and video lessons where beginners can see and know what they have to > do.It > > has to be interactive and meet the needs of the user not having the > program > > > https://github.com/svaksha/pythonidae/blob/master/Resources.md#bootstrapping > The `Resources.md` page also lists videos, cheatsheets, books etc.. > and is by no means a comprehensive Python resource, so PR's are > welcome. > SVAKSHA ? http://about.me/svaksha ? > _______________________________________________ > PSF-Community mailing list > PSF-Community at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community > -- cordially, Anna -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Hi all, We realize that this is last minute, but the PSF has 3 free conference tickets (including the after party) to give away to PyCon JP in Tokyo. The event is October 10-11. The deadline is today so please let me know if you're interested and I'll send you the details. https://pycon.jp/2015/ja/ Cheers, Betsy -- Betsy Waliszewski Python Software Foundation Event Coordinator / Administrator @betswaliszewski -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tismer at stackless.com Wed Sep 30 23:41:54 2015 From: tismer at stackless.com (Christian Tismer) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 23:41:54 +0200 Subject: [PSF-Community] Sponsored Tickets to PyCon JP - Any locals interested? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <560C5722.2060407@stackless.com> Hi Betsy, does this also work for a German? Then I would take the chance and go to JP. 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