From dick at dicksteffens.com  Thu Dec 12 22:38:53 2013
From: dick at dicksteffens.com (Dick Steffens)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:38:53 -0800
Subject: [portland] Recommendation for GUI environment on Ubuntu 12.04 with
	Gnome fallback
Message-ID: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com>

I run a couple of Python programs that work fine on Ubuntu 10.04 but 
don't behave quite so well on Ubuntu 12.04. I've made a couple of tweaks 
that help, but I'd like to recompile them (or whatever the right concept 
is with Python) so they work well on Ubuntu 12.04.

One of the programs is called Footpedal. It can be found at:

http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/downloads/detail?name=footpedal_0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb

and some instructions for tweaking are at:

http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/issues/detail?id=4#c5

Those helped, but I'd like to make it cleaner.

Something seems to be missing from Gnome fallback that Footpedal uses. 
When I run it on Ubuntu 10.04 a little foot icon appears on the top line 
of the screen. When I right click on that icon I can change some 
settings to suit the way I want the foot pedal to respond. That icon no 
longer appears on the top line of the 12.04 screen, and I haven't found 
a way to get at that configuration menu. I'd like to rewrite the program 
so the I can get to the configuration menu.

The part more relevant to this mailing list is what GUI "environment" 
(or whatever it's called) can I use for Python with Ubuntu 12.04? I'd 
like to start with a graphic version of Hello World so I can understand 
what widgets to use and how to place and control buttons, etc. I've 
fiddled with the text mode version of Hello World and understand it -- 
well, at least enough of it to handle Hello World. I'd like to get the 
same familiarity with a GUI program.

The other program is called Transcribe. It is a program that plays audio 
files with some controls built in suitable for use by transcribers, such 
as backing up x number of seconds when stopped. It runs okay mostly. 
Sometimes I'll get a pop up window that tells me that it has crashed. 
Maybe something crashed, but it wasn't the part of the program that I 
use. I'm less concerned with finding out what's wrong with this one. But 
once I get comfortable tweaking Footpedal I'll dig further into Transcribe.

TIA for any advice and/or links to tutorials.

-- 
Regards,

Richard C. Steffens


From jchampion at zetacentauri.com  Thu Dec 12 23:19:59 2013
From: jchampion at zetacentauri.com (Jason Champion)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:19:59 -0800
Subject: [portland] Recommendation for GUI environment on Ubuntu 12.04
 with Gnome fallback
In-Reply-To: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com>
References: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com>
Message-ID: <CAGQDDo=wzVfEk2Vz_jLT+pE+1BCgXtGkKnN78bOgZU=-_cJMAQ@mail.gmail.com>

I swear by PyQt for Python GUI work on Linux.

The PyQt book by Mark Summerfield is superb. I imagine there are also
plenty of good tutorials on the web.

There's also wxPython, which is fairly widely-used. I used to use that, but
switched to pyQt a while back. On Python both frameworks are pretty similar
in capability. I only switched for consistency because the C++ work I do
switched entirely to Qt (Qt is FAR better/smoother to use with C++). Both
frameworks are multi-platform so you can get OSX and Windows for "nearly
free" if you use one of them.

Cheers,
Jason


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Dick Steffens <dick at dicksteffens.com>wrote:

> I run a couple of Python programs that work fine on Ubuntu 10.04 but don't
> behave quite so well on Ubuntu 12.04. I've made a couple of tweaks that
> help, but I'd like to recompile them (or whatever the right concept is with
> Python) so they work well on Ubuntu 12.04.
>
> One of the programs is called Footpedal. It can be found at:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/downloads/detail?
> name=footpedal_0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
>
> and some instructions for tweaking are at:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/issues/detail?id=4#c5
>
> Those helped, but I'd like to make it cleaner.
>
> Something seems to be missing from Gnome fallback that Footpedal uses.
> When I run it on Ubuntu 10.04 a little foot icon appears on the top line of
> the screen. When I right click on that icon I can change some settings to
> suit the way I want the foot pedal to respond. That icon no longer appears
> on the top line of the 12.04 screen, and I haven't found a way to get at
> that configuration menu. I'd like to rewrite the program so the I can get
> to the configuration menu.
>
> The part more relevant to this mailing list is what GUI "environment" (or
> whatever it's called) can I use for Python with Ubuntu 12.04? I'd like to
> start with a graphic version of Hello World so I can understand what
> widgets to use and how to place and control buttons, etc. I've fiddled with
> the text mode version of Hello World and understand it -- well, at least
> enough of it to handle Hello World. I'd like to get the same familiarity
> with a GUI program.
>
> The other program is called Transcribe. It is a program that plays audio
> files with some controls built in suitable for use by transcribers, such as
> backing up x number of seconds when stopped. It runs okay mostly. Sometimes
> I'll get a pop up window that tells me that it has crashed. Maybe something
> crashed, but it wasn't the part of the program that I use. I'm less
> concerned with finding out what's wrong with this one. But once I get
> comfortable tweaking Footpedal I'll dig further into Transcribe.
>
> TIA for any advice and/or links to tutorials.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard C. Steffens
>
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>



-- 
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Software Architect
Zeta Centauri
http://zetacentauri.com
jchampion at zetacentauri.com
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From dick at dicksteffens.com  Fri Dec 13 01:03:52 2013
From: dick at dicksteffens.com (Dick Steffens)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:03:52 -0800
Subject: [portland] Recommendation for GUI environment on Ubuntu 12.04
 with Gnome fallback
In-Reply-To: <CAGQDDo=wzVfEk2Vz_jLT+pE+1BCgXtGkKnN78bOgZU=-_cJMAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com>
 <CAGQDDo=wzVfEk2Vz_jLT+pE+1BCgXtGkKnN78bOgZU=-_cJMAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52AA4EE8.9030900@dicksteffens.com>

On 12/12/2013 02:19 PM, Jason Champion wrote:
> I swear by PyQt for Python GUI work on Linux.
>
> The PyQt book by Mark Summerfield is superb. I imagine there are also
> plenty of good tutorials on the web.
>
> There's also wxPython, which is fairly widely-used. I used to use that, but
> switched to pyQt a while back. On Python both frameworks are pretty similar
> in capability. I only switched for consistency because the C++ work I do
> switched entirely to Qt (Qt is FAR better/smoother to use with C++). Both
> frameworks are multi-platform so you can get OSX and Windows for "nearly
> free" if you use one of them.

I found a tutorial and successfully ran the fist two examples. That 
should get me on my way.

Thanks!

-- 
Regards,

Richard C. Steffens


From dermot at tenbridges.com  Fri Dec 13 01:41:41 2013
From: dermot at tenbridges.com (TenBridges LLC)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:41:41 -0800
Subject: [portland] Recommendation for GUI environment on Ubuntu 12.04
 with Gnome fallback
In-Reply-To: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com>
References: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com>
Message-ID: <1386895301.5845.7.camel@10B-2>

I would also take a serious look at PyCharm from JetBrains.  It is an
excellent editor with great integrations (Django, Git, etc............).
I have run it on the last 3 LTS versions of Ubuntu (including 12.04 ).
I think there is a free version too.


http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/



On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 13:38 -0800, Dick Steffens wrote:

> I run a couple of Python programs that work fine on Ubuntu 10.04 but 
> don't behave quite so well on Ubuntu 12.04. I've made a couple of tweaks 
> that help, but I'd like to recompile them (or whatever the right concept 
> is with Python) so they work well on Ubuntu 12.04.
> 
> One of the programs is called Footpedal. It can be found at:
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/downloads/detail?name=footpedal_0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb
> 
> and some instructions for tweaking are at:
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/issues/detail?id=4#c5
> 
> Those helped, but I'd like to make it cleaner.
> 
> Something seems to be missing from Gnome fallback that Footpedal uses. 
> When I run it on Ubuntu 10.04 a little foot icon appears on the top line 
> of the screen. When I right click on that icon I can change some 
> settings to suit the way I want the foot pedal to respond. That icon no 
> longer appears on the top line of the 12.04 screen, and I haven't found 
> a way to get at that configuration menu. I'd like to rewrite the program 
> so the I can get to the configuration menu.
> 
> The part more relevant to this mailing list is what GUI "environment" 
> (or whatever it's called) can I use for Python with Ubuntu 12.04? I'd 
> like to start with a graphic version of Hello World so I can understand 
> what widgets to use and how to place and control buttons, etc. I've 
> fiddled with the text mode version of Hello World and understand it -- 
> well, at least enough of it to handle Hello World. I'd like to get the 
> same familiarity with a GUI program.
> 
> The other program is called Transcribe. It is a program that plays audio 
> files with some controls built in suitable for use by transcribers, such 
> as backing up x number of seconds when stopped. It runs okay mostly. 
> Sometimes I'll get a pop up window that tells me that it has crashed. 
> Maybe something crashed, but it wasn't the part of the program that I 
> use. I'm less concerned with finding out what's wrong with this one. But 
> once I get comfortable tweaking Footpedal I'll dig further into Transcribe.
> 
> TIA for any advice and/or links to tutorials.
> 


-- 


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From chiller at decipherinc.com  Fri Dec 13 02:01:49 2013
From: chiller at decipherinc.com (Christopher Hiller)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:01:49 -0800
Subject: [portland] Recommendation for GUI environment on Ubuntu 12.04
 with Gnome fallback
In-Reply-To: <1386895301.5845.7.camel@10B-2>
References: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com> <1386895301.5845.7.camel@10B-2>
Message-ID: <etPan.52aa5c7d.1befd79f.676a@lectroid.local>

I?ve used PyCharm exclusively for a few years now and it?s amazing (great for full-stack JS too). ?JetBrains really knows how to make an IDE.
--?
Christopher Hiller
Decipher, Inc.

On December 12, 2013 at 4:50:05 PM, TenBridges LLC (dermot at tenbridges.com) wrote:

I would also take a serious look at PyCharm from JetBrains. It is an  
excellent editor with great integrations (Django, Git, etc............).  
I have run it on the last 3 LTS versions of Ubuntu (including 12.04 ).  
I think there is a free version too.  


http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/  



On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 13:38 -0800, Dick Steffens wrote:  

> I run a couple of Python programs that work fine on Ubuntu 10.04 but  
> don't behave quite so well on Ubuntu 12.04. I've made a couple of tweaks  
> that help, but I'd like to recompile them (or whatever the right concept  
> is with Python) so they work well on Ubuntu 12.04.  
>  
> One of the programs is called Footpedal. It can be found at:  
>  
> http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/downloads/detail?name=footpedal_0.4-0ubuntu1_all.deb  
>  
> and some instructions for tweaking are at:  
>  
> http://code.google.com/p/footpedal/issues/detail?id=4#c5  
>  
> Those helped, but I'd like to make it cleaner.  
>  
> Something seems to be missing from Gnome fallback that Footpedal uses.  
> When I run it on Ubuntu 10.04 a little foot icon appears on the top line  
> of the screen. When I right click on that icon I can change some  
> settings to suit the way I want the foot pedal to respond. That icon no  
> longer appears on the top line of the 12.04 screen, and I haven't found  
> a way to get at that configuration menu. I'd like to rewrite the program  
> so the I can get to the configuration menu.  
>  
> The part more relevant to this mailing list is what GUI "environment"  
> (or whatever it's called) can I use for Python with Ubuntu 12.04? I'd  
> like to start with a graphic version of Hello World so I can understand  
> what widgets to use and how to place and control buttons, etc. I've  
> fiddled with the text mode version of Hello World and understand it --  
> well, at least enough of it to handle Hello World. I'd like to get the  
> same familiarity with a GUI program.  
>  
> The other program is called Transcribe. It is a program that plays audio  
> files with some controls built in suitable for use by transcribers, such  
> as backing up x number of seconds when stopped. It runs okay mostly.  
> Sometimes I'll get a pop up window that tells me that it has crashed.  
> Maybe something crashed, but it wasn't the part of the program that I  
> use. I'm less concerned with finding out what's wrong with this one. But  
> once I get comfortable tweaking Footpedal I'll dig further into Transcribe.  
>  
> TIA for any advice and/or links to tutorials.  
>  


--  


TenBridges.Com L.L.C.  

Dermot Maty, Owner  

1631 NE Broadway #522  

Portland, OR, 97232  

pho: 503.427.8362  

mob: 503.702.0724  

Dermot at tenbridges.com  

www.tenbridges.com  

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From ernest.bonat at gmail.com  Fri Dec 13 02:01:57 2013
From: ernest.bonat at gmail.com (Ernest Bonat, Ph.D.)
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:01:57 -0800
Subject: [portland] Recommendation for GUI environment on Ubuntu 12.04
 with Gnome fallback
In-Reply-To: <52AA4EE8.9030900@dicksteffens.com>
References: <52AA2CED.4060200@dicksteffens.com>
 <CAGQDDo=wzVfEk2Vz_jLT+pE+1BCgXtGkKnN78bOgZU=-_cJMAQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <52AA4EE8.9030900@dicksteffens.com>
Message-ID: <CANutusz=cuojjquXfAQ1zYZh-S0nzXUjAhWVO5H+mypUgFjexg@mail.gmail.com>

Why not to use Eclipse IDE with PyDev plugin? Simple and good!

PyDev is a Python IDE for Eclipse, which may be used in Python, Jython and
IronPython development.

It comes with many goodies such as:

?         Django integration

?         Code completion

?         Code completion with auto import

?         Type hinting

?         Code analysis

?         Go to definition

?         Refactoring

?         Debugger

?         Remote debugger

?         Tokens browser

?         Interactive console

?         Unit-test integration

?         Code coverage

?         Find References (Ctrl+Shift+G)

?         and many others:

 Thanks


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Dick Steffens <dick at dicksteffens.com>wrote:

> On 12/12/2013 02:19 PM, Jason Champion wrote:
>
>> I swear by PyQt for Python GUI work on Linux.
>>
>> The PyQt book by Mark Summerfield is superb. I imagine there are also
>> plenty of good tutorials on the web.
>>
>> There's also wxPython, which is fairly widely-used. I used to use that,
>> but
>> switched to pyQt a while back. On Python both frameworks are pretty
>> similar
>> in capability. I only switched for consistency because the C++ work I do
>> switched entirely to Qt (Qt is FAR better/smoother to use with C++). Both
>> frameworks are multi-platform so you can get OSX and Windows for "nearly
>> free" if you use one of them.
>>
>
> I found a tutorial and successfully ran the fist two examples. That should
> get me on my way.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard C. Steffens
>
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>



-- 
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Senior Software Engineer
Senior Business Statistics Analyst
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From sgarman at zenlinux.com  Tue Dec 24 00:50:45 2013
From: sgarman at zenlinux.com (Scott Garman)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:50:45 -0800
Subject: [portland] Current django learning resources?
Message-ID: <52B8CC55.10301@zenlinux.com>

Hey folks,

I'm planning to spend some time during the holidays to write my first
django webapp, and was wondering what recommendations people have for
books and online resources to get me bootstrapped and using the latest
best practices? I have some background in Rails, though that's gotten
quite rusty in recent years, and I consider myself intermediate-level
with python itself. Practical resources which include things like how to
deploy a django app are especially welcome - I have a Linode server
running Debian 7 as my target webhost.

Suggestions?

Thanks, and Happy Holidays!

Scott

From jchampion at zetacentauri.com  Tue Dec 24 05:21:25 2013
From: jchampion at zetacentauri.com (Jason Champion)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:21:25 -0800
Subject: [portland] Current django learning resources?
In-Reply-To: <52B8CC55.10301@zenlinux.com>
References: <52B8CC55.10301@zenlinux.com>
Message-ID: <52B90BC5.7000108@zetacentauri.com>

Hi Scott,

I'd recommend their basic poll tutorial for a start:

https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/tutorial01/

The Django book is a good intro:

http://www.djangobook.com/en/2.0/index.html

Once you have a good understanding of the basics, the Two Scoops of 
Django book is mighty good:

http://www.amazon.com/Two-Scoops-Django-Best-Practices-ebook/dp/B00CCK619K/

It doesn't matter that it's a version behind, the core concepts don't 
generally change quickly with Django.

For deployments, Fabric is very much worth learning, and not too hard to 
get the hang of:

http://docs.fabfile.org/en/1.8/

I love Linode. Their servers perform very well with Django (I have ~20 
sites running on one of their $40 Ubuntu servers and it's /fast/). :D

Cheers,
Jason

On 12/23/2013 03:50 PM, Scott Garman wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm planning to spend some time during the holidays to write my first
> django webapp, and was wondering what recommendations people have for
> books and online resources to get me bootstrapped and using the latest
> best practices? I have some background in Rails, though that's gotten
> quite rusty in recent years, and I consider myself intermediate-level
> with python itself. Practical resources which include things like how to
> deploy a django app are especially welcome - I have a Linode server
> running Debian 7 as my target webhost.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks, and Happy Holidays!
>
> Scott
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland


From keturn at keturn.net  Tue Dec 24 05:25:12 2013
From: keturn at keturn.net (Kevin Turner)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:25:12 -0800
Subject: [portland] Current django learning resources?
In-Reply-To: <52B8CC55.10301@zenlinux.com>
References: <52B8CC55.10301@zenlinux.com>
Message-ID: <1387859112.20474.63117921.3762C23F@webmail.messagingengine.com>

I think "Two Scoops of Django" <https://django.twoscoops.org/> is
probably a good resource for you. It assumes some prior knowledge about
the mechanics of web applications, so I don't recommend it for a
first-time introduction to the domain, but I expect your rails
background will have prepared you with the basic concepts. It is very
much oriented toward the practical, and I appreciated the content.

It's only the last two months that I started doing any real work with
Django myself, and I've written some about the experience at
http://keturn.net/blog/

That's primarily a diary, rather than a tutorial or a reference work,
but I do write in the hope that it will help others avoid the pitfalls I
found along my way. (And I have four weeks of entries yet to write.
Yikes!)

Good luck,

 - Kevin


From brett at rdnzl.net  Tue Dec 24 07:49:51 2013
From: brett at rdnzl.net (Brett Carter)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 22:49:51 -0800
Subject: [portland] Current django learning resources?
In-Reply-To: <52B90BC5.7000108@zetacentauri.com>
References: <52B8CC55.10301@zenlinux.com> <52B90BC5.7000108@zetacentauri.com>
Message-ID: <CALeEg386urhC9zqb7pFFO+FOjJRYAk+VuAb3VGhVzR6bjxKjzA@mail.gmail.com>

I second this.  I worked through the tutorial - it's a great intro.

-Brett


On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Jason Champion
<jchampion at zetacentauri.com>wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> I'd recommend their basic poll tutorial for a start:
>
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/tutorial01/
>
> The Django book is a good intro:
>
> http://www.djangobook.com/en/2.0/index.html
>
> Once you have a good understanding of the basics, the Two Scoops of Django
> book is mighty good:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Two-Scoops-Django-Best-Practices-
> ebook/dp/B00CCK619K/
>
> It doesn't matter that it's a version behind, the core concepts don't
> generally change quickly with Django.
>
> For deployments, Fabric is very much worth learning, and not too hard to
> get the hang of:
>
> http://docs.fabfile.org/en/1.8/
>
> I love Linode. Their servers perform very well with Django (I have ~20
> sites running on one of their $40 Ubuntu servers and it's /fast/). :D
>
> Cheers,
> Jason
>
>
> On 12/23/2013 03:50 PM, Scott Garman wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I'm planning to spend some time during the holidays to write my first
>> django webapp, and was wondering what recommendations people have for
>> books and online resources to get me bootstrapped and using the latest
>> best practices? I have some background in Rails, though that's gotten
>> quite rusty in recent years, and I consider myself intermediate-level
>> with python itself. Practical resources which include things like how to
>> deploy a django app are especially welcome - I have a Linode server
>> running Debian 7 as my target webhost.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks, and Happy Holidays!
>>
>> Scott
>> _______________________________________________
>> Portland mailing list
>> Portland at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>
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From dick at dicksteffens.com  Tue Dec 24 18:46:04 2013
From: dick at dicksteffens.com (Dick Steffens)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 09:46:04 -0800
Subject: [portland] Image location for PyQT4?
Message-ID: <52B9C85C.10809@dicksteffens.com>

I'm working through the tutorials at http://zetcode.com/gui/pyqt4/. So 
far, they all work, mostly. The mostly part refers to missing images. 
The section on PyQT4 Widgets includes an example of the use of a slider. 
The slider displays fine. But missing when I run the program is the 
image of a loud speaker and the ) shapes added to the right to indicate 
a sound level. There are a set of png files used by the program -- 
mute.png, min.png, med.png, max.png -- but they don't show up when I run 
it. Unless I skipped over something and missed it, I don't see anything 
that tells me where these files are supposed to be located. This is true 
for any other program in the set that uses an image file.

Is there some common set of files I should have downloaded when I 
installed python-qt4 on my Ubuntu 12.04 system?

Synaptic shows I have installed:

Package        Installed Version    Latest Version Description
----------     -----------------    -------------- -----------------------
python-qt4     4.9.1-2ubuntu1 4.9.1-2ubuntu1    Python bindings for Qt4

I don't see anything obvious in the list of packages in Synaptic, like 
some image library. What am I missing?

Thanks.

-- 
Regards,

Richard C. Steffens


From jchampion at zetacentauri.com  Tue Dec 24 19:42:52 2013
From: jchampion at zetacentauri.com (Jason Champion)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:42:52 -0800
Subject: [portland] Image location for PyQT4?
In-Reply-To: <52B9C85C.10809@dicksteffens.com>
References: <52B9C85C.10809@dicksteffens.com>
Message-ID: <52B9D5AC.70409@zetacentauri.com>

Hi Dick,

It sounds like they're either assuming you have certain files in your 
icon library or forgot to include links to tutorial resources -- those 
files are not part of Qt. It should be easy to get substitute images.

When I look in this folder on my Ubuntu system with Gnome 3 installed:

/usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/

I see these icons:

stock_volume-0.png  stock_volume-max.png  stock_volume-med.png 
stock_volume-min.png  stock_volume-mute.png  stock_volume.png

That sounds pretty similar to what they're asking for, and it being Qt4 
they were probably assuming a system with Gnome 2 installed. I bet their 
default icons set has images with those names.

I have a number of folders with mute/min/med/max icons on my system: 
/usr/share/icons/oxygen/, /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-dark, etc. You 
should be able to find suitable substitutes in one of the 
/usr/share/icons folders, depending on what window manager and/or theme 
libraries you have installed.

HTH,
Jason

On 12/24/2013 09:46 AM, Dick Steffens wrote:
> I'm working through the tutorials at http://zetcode.com/gui/pyqt4/. So 
> far, they all work, mostly. The mostly part refers to missing images. 
> The section on PyQT4 Widgets includes an example of the use of a 
> slider. The slider displays fine. But missing when I run the program 
> is the image of a loud speaker and the ) shapes added to the right to 
> indicate a sound level. There are a set of png files used by the 
> program -- mute.png, min.png, med.png, max.png -- but they don't show 
> up when I run it. Unless I skipped over something and missed it, I 
> don't see anything that tells me where these files are supposed to be 
> located. This is true for any other program in the set that uses an 
> image file.
>
> Is there some common set of files I should have downloaded when I 
> installed python-qt4 on my Ubuntu 12.04 system?
>
> Synaptic shows I have installed:
>
> Package        Installed Version    Latest Version Description
> ----------     -----------------    -------------- 
> -----------------------
> python-qt4     4.9.1-2ubuntu1 4.9.1-2ubuntu1    Python bindings for Qt4
>
> I don't see anything obvious in the list of packages in Synaptic, like 
> some image library. What am I missing?
>
> Thanks.
>


From dick at dicksteffens.com  Tue Dec 24 20:15:13 2013
From: dick at dicksteffens.com (Dick Steffens)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:15:13 -0800
Subject: [portland] Resolved:  Image location for PyQT4?
In-Reply-To: <52B9D5AC.70409@zetacentauri.com>
References: <52B9C85C.10809@dicksteffens.com> <52B9D5AC.70409@zetacentauri.com>
Message-ID: <52B9DD41.9030504@dicksteffens.com>

On 12/24/2013 10:42 AM, Jason Champion wrote:
> Hi Dick,
>
> It sounds like they're either assuming you have certain files in your 
> icon library or forgot to include links to tutorial resources -- those 
> files are not part of Qt. It should be easy to get substitute images.
>
> When I look in this folder on my Ubuntu system with Gnome 3 installed:
>
> /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/
>
> I see these icons:
>
> stock_volume-0.png  stock_volume-max.png  stock_volume-med.png 
> stock_volume-min.png  stock_volume-mute.png  stock_volume.png

Yes. I have them, too. They are links to four other files in the same 
directory, audio-volume-high.png, etc.

The images don't match exactly what the tutorial shows, but the concept 
is the same.

> That sounds pretty similar to what they're asking for, and it being 
> Qt4 they were probably assuming a system with Gnome 2 installed. I bet 
> their default icons set has images with those names.
>
> I have a number of folders with mute/min/med/max icons on my system: 
> /usr/share/icons/oxygen/, /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-dark, etc. You 
> should be able to find suitable substitutes in one of the 
> /usr/share/icons folders, depending on what window manager and/or 
> theme libraries you have installed.

The ones you in /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/ work for me.

> HTH,

Yes. Very much, thanks.

-- 
Regards,

Richard C. Steffens


From sgarman at zenlinux.com  Tue Dec 24 20:53:03 2013
From: sgarman at zenlinux.com (Scott Garman)
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 11:53:03 -0800
Subject: [portland] Current django learning resources?
In-Reply-To: <52B90BC5.7000108@zetacentauri.com>
References: <52B8CC55.10301@zenlinux.com> <52B90BC5.7000108@zetacentauri.com>
Message-ID: <52B9E61F.2070605@zenlinux.com>

Thanks everyone for the replies! This looks like some great info for me
to embark with.

Scott

On 12/23/2013 08:21 PM, Jason Champion wrote:
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I'd recommend their basic poll tutorial for a start:
> 
> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/tutorial01/
> 
> The Django book is a good intro:
> 
> http://www.djangobook.com/en/2.0/index.html
> 
> Once you have a good understanding of the basics, the Two Scoops of
> Django book is mighty good:
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Two-Scoops-Django-Best-Practices-ebook/dp/B00CCK619K/
> 
> It doesn't matter that it's a version behind, the core concepts don't
> generally change quickly with Django.
> 
> For deployments, Fabric is very much worth learning, and not too hard to
> get the hang of:
> 
> http://docs.fabfile.org/en/1.8/
> 
> I love Linode. Their servers perform very well with Django (I have ~20
> sites running on one of their $40 Ubuntu servers and it's /fast/). :D
> 
> Cheers,
> Jason
> 
> On 12/23/2013 03:50 PM, Scott Garman wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> I'm planning to spend some time during the holidays to write my first
>> django webapp, and was wondering what recommendations people have for
>> books and online resources to get me bootstrapped and using the latest
>> best practices? I have some background in Rails, though that's gotten
>> quite rusty in recent years, and I consider myself intermediate-level
>> with python itself. Practical resources which include things like how to
>> deploy a django app are especially welcome - I have a Linode server
>> running Debian 7 as my target webhost.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks, and Happy Holidays!
>>
>> Scott
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