From rshepard at appl-ecosys.com Thu Sep 2 00:44:41 2010 From: rshepard at appl-ecosys.com (Rich Shepard) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations Message-ID: I'm redoing my company's web site and have been encouraged to use a CMS. My partner recommended WordPress but that mandates MySQL, and I use both postgres and sqlite; I don't want to install and learn a third dbms. I see there's Django, Plone, and more that are python based. I'm sure each has strengths and weaknesses, and I'm looking for one appropriate for a professional consulting site, not a store. Please suggest an easy to learn, maintain, and use python-based CMS. Thanks, Rich From jd at commandprompt.com Thu Sep 2 01:13:31 2010 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua D. Drake) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:13:31 -0700 Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1283382811.17138.52.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 15:44 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: > I'm redoing my company's web site and have been encouraged to use a CMS. > My partner recommended WordPress but that mandates MySQL, and I use both > postgres and sqlite; I don't want to install and learn a third dbms. > > I see there's Django, Plone, and more that are python based. I'm sure each > has strengths and weaknesses, and I'm looking for one appropriate for a > professional consulting site, not a store. Django is not really a CMS, although it has a CMS you can plug into it. > > Please suggest an easy to learn, maintain, and use python-based CMS > . Take a look at http://www.django-cms.org/ JD > > Thanks, > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -- PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 509.416.6579 Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering http://twitter.com/cmdpromptinc | http://identi.ca/commandprompt From rshepard at appl-ecosys.com Thu Sep 2 01:30:28 2010 From: rshepard at appl-ecosys.com (Rich Shepard) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: <1283382811.17138.52.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> References: <1283382811.17138.52.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Django is not really a CMS, although it has a CMS you can plug into it. > Take a look at http://www.django-cms.org/ Thanks, Josh. For the dozen-and-a-half web pages I don't know that I really need a CMS at all. I add downloadable documents to it, but that's about all. Rich From monk at netjunky.com Thu Sep 2 01:53:57 2010 From: monk at netjunky.com (jonathan karon) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:53:57 -0700 Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rich, On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Rich Shepard wrote: > ?I see there's Django, Plone, and more that are python based. I'm sure each > has strengths and weaknesses, and I'm looking for one appropriate for a > professional consulting site, not a store. > > ?Please suggest an easy to learn, maintain, and use python-based CMS. > If you're just looking to publish a small web site and make it easily maintainable, stacks like Django and Plone are vast overkill and come with a great deal of setup and learning you shouldn't have to deal with. Django is a web app framework and Plone is as much an App Server as a CMS. Setting up and running a MySQL instance and WordPress will actually be less work than getting a usable web site up and running on Plone or Django-CMS (especially if your server has prebuilt MySQL, PHP, and Apache packages). It's not Python, but you might have a look at Drupal as it does have good Postgres support. If anyone knows of good simple CMS / blogging frameworks in Python I'd love to hear about them. From rshepard at appl-ecosys.com Thu Sep 2 02:08:49 2010 From: rshepard at appl-ecosys.com (Rich Shepard) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, jonathan karon wrote: > If you're just looking to publish a small web site and make it easily > maintainable, stacks like Django and Plone are vast overkill and come with > a great deal of setup and learning you shouldn't have to deal with. > Django is a web app framework and Plone is as much an App Server as a CMS. Jonathan, I've been writing my web site in html/xhtml and css for more than a dozen years. I've changed the site a half-dozen times and do all my editing in emacs. There are 18 .shtml pages, a slew of publications, some images, and a couple of .css files. The most frequent page to change is (currently) "What's New" when I post a new newsletter, white paper, or article. Perhaps there are features in Django that will attract more potential clients, but I've no idea what such attractions might be. > Setting up and running a MySQL instance and WordPress will actually be > less work than getting a usable web site up and running on Plone or > Django-CMS (especially if your server has prebuilt MySQL, PHP, and Apache > packages). I am resistant to installing and learning MySQL because I've used postgres and sqlite for years and don't want to learn and maintain a third dbms. I don't make money by writing Web sites, and so far it's not directly generated any business for us. I'll be changing the focus and content, but I like the looks of the current site. > It's not Python, but you might have a look at Drupal as it does have > good Postgres support. My preference for Python is that I've written our approximate reasoning models in Python and don't want to learn PHP, Java, or Ruby just for the Web site. Again, it's not my business so I want to modify the site then ignore it as I've done in the past. I'll take a look at Drypal, too. Thanks, Rich From pacopablo at pacopablo.com Thu Sep 2 06:24:16 2010 From: pacopablo at pacopablo.com (John Hampton) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:24:16 -0700 Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C7F26F0.7090309@pacopablo.com> On 9/1/10 4:53 PM, jonathan karon wrote: > If anyone knows of good simple CMS / blogging frameworks in Python I'd > love to hear about them. Not a CMS, but for blogging, I like Zine [1]. It's simple, elegant, and Python! -John [1] http://zine.pocoo.org/ From rick.flosi at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 18:10:52 2010 From: rick.flosi at gmail.com (Rick Flosi) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:10:52 -0700 Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: <4C7F26F0.7090309@pacopablo.com> References: <4C7F26F0.7090309@pacopablo.com> Message-ID: Just adding to the list to consider... Google App Engine and web2py. Not sure if either have a CMS app, but depending on what you want to do you might not want a generic CMS and instead might want to build some small apps for specific content. Pylons and Turbogears might be of interest too. I believe Turbogears is built on top of Pylons nowadays. I'd be interested to know what you decide to go with. -r. On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM, John Hampton wrote: > On 9/1/10 4:53 PM, jonathan karon wrote: > >> If anyone knows of good simple CMS / blogging frameworks in Python I'd >> love to hear about them. >> > > > Not a CMS, but for blogging, I like Zine [1]. It's simple, elegant, and > Python! > > -John > > [1] http://zine.pocoo.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jd at commandprompt.com Thu Sep 2 18:10:49 2010 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua D. Drake) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:10:49 -0700 Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1283443849.3791.1.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 17:08 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, jonathan karon wrote: > Perhaps there are features in Django that will attract more potential > clients, but I've no idea what such attractions might be. Well as I said previously Django won't do what you want. It is just a framework. However a Django application might, Django-Cms is what I would look into. > I am resistant to installing and learning MySQL because I've used postgres > and sqlite for years and don't want to learn and maintain a third dbms. I > don't make money by writing Web sites, and so far it's not directly > generated any business for us. I'll be changing the focus and content, but I > like the looks of the current site. Oh come on, there are a lot more reasons than that to not learn MySQL :P > > > It's not Python, but you might have a look at Drupal as it does have > > good Postgres support. > > My preference for Python is that I've written our approximate reasoning > models in Python and don't want to learn PHP, Java, or Ruby just for the Web > site. Again, it's not my business so I want to modify the site then ignore > it as I've done in the past. Well, a true CMS you don't have to learn the language. Drupal has a huge community around it. It has a ton of modules. The PostgreSQL Conference site for example is in Drupal. I would prefer it be Python and Pylons or something but I would never have to the time to get it deployed as I have with Drupal. Joshua D. Drake -- PostgreSQL.org Major Contributor Command Prompt, Inc: http://www.commandprompt.com/ - 509.416.6579 Consulting, Training, Support, Custom Development, Engineering http://twitter.com/cmdpromptinc | http://identi.ca/commandprompt From snowhitster at gmail.com Thu Sep 2 18:11:34 2010 From: snowhitster at gmail.com (Timothy Snowhite) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:11:34 -0400 Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: <4C7F26F0.7090309@pacopablo.com> References: <4C7F26F0.7090309@pacopablo.com> Message-ID: Another option for you might be MoinMoin[2], a wiki engine in python. It's not database driven. (Presumably, when you're doing the templating you'll be able to remove the wiki editing elements from the end-client facing pages. There seem to be templates[3] available that you can work from. You'll also probably want to hide the editing and uploading pages that you'll use to make changes to the site behind HTTP Basic Auth[4]. ) [2] MoinMoin: http://moinmo.in [3] Themes: http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarketArchive [4] How Auth works in Moin Moin: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnAuthentication Richard Shepherd wrote: > I've been writing my web site in html/xhtml and css for more than a dozen > years. I've changed the site a half-dozen times and do all my editing in > emacs. There are 18 .shtml pages, a slew of publications, some images, and > a > couple of .css files. The most frequent page to change is (currently) > "What's New" when I post a new newsletter, white paper, or article. > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:24 AM, John Hampton wrote: > > Not a CMS, but for blogging, I like Zine [1]. It's simple, elegant, and > Python! > > -John > > [1] http://zine.pocoo.org/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've used postgres for more than a dozen years and use sqlite for single-user, embedded applications. > Well, a true CMS you don't have to learn the language. True. > Drupal has a huge community around it. It has a ton of modules. The > PostgreSQL Conference site for example is in Drupal. I would prefer it be > Python and Pylons or something but I would never have to the time to get > it deployed as I have with Drupal. See above. I'm down to Drupal and Elxis. Converting my static web pages to be part of a CMS-run site is a whole new experience. I'm slowing realizing what I can do that would add value to site visitors; I'm sure that there are many more benefits that I don't know exist. Thanks, Rich From jd at commandprompt.com Thu Sep 2 18:48:33 2010 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua D. Drake) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:48:33 -0700 Subject: [portland] CMS Recommendations In-Reply-To: References: <1283443849.3791.1.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> Message-ID: <1283446113.3791.4.camel@jd-desktop.unknown.charter.com> On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 09:29 -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: > On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > Well as I said previously Django won't do what you want. It is just a > > framework. However a Django application might, Django-Cms is what I would > > look into. > > Josh, > > You are correct that I don't need a framework, but a tool to manage > content and allow me to do more with the site. I've looked very closely at > Drupal, but was told that local developers consider it to have a very steep > initial learning curve. Nahhh... you install it, you create content. It's only real learning curve is if you want to create your own modules (which you wouldn't) or theme (which you could just use one of the thousands of free ones). Good luck! 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Cheers, Jason * note: not actually first From michelle at pdxpython.org Tue Sep 14 20:07:51 2010 From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:07:51 -0700 Subject: [portland] Meeting tomorrow: VENUE CHANGE! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Pythoneers, I'm looking forward to tonight's first* Dinner Social! If you're planning on joining us and haven't yet RSVPed via Meetup, please send me an email or let me know on IRC (dael on freenode) so I can make a reservation this afternoon. They won't seat us at Deschutes until at least half the reserved number have arrived, so please be on time (6:30pm). Also, don't forget to bring cash so we don't have to split a check 29 ways! See you tonight, Michelle On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 7:01 PM, jason kirtland wrote: > End of summer vacations, DjangoCon, back to school, new jobs- most of > us seem to have been busy-busy this last month. 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We've also added an "Extreme" talk > track this year - no introduction, no fluff - only the pure > technical meat! > > PyCon 2011 will be held March 9th through the 17th, 2011 in Atlanta, > Georgia. (Home of some of the best southern food you can possibly > find on Earth!) The PyCon conference days will be March 11-13, > preceded by two tutorial days (March 9-10), and followed by four > days of development sprints (March 14-17). > > PyCon 2011 is looking for proposals for the formal presentation > tracks (this includes "extreme talks"). A request for proposals for > poster sessions and tutorials will come separately. > > Want to showcase your skills as a Python Hacker? Want to have > hundreds of people see your talk on the subject of your choice? Have > some hot button issue you think the community needs to address, or have > some package, code or project you simply love talking about? 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