From jek at discorporate.us Wed Sep 3 23:35:58 2008 From: jek at discorporate.us (jason kirtland) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:35:58 -0300 Subject: [portland] Next Meeting: Django on Jython / Python Eggs - Tuesday, September 9th at 7pm Message-ID: <48BF033E.7030504@discorporate.us> Hi everyone, Our September Python meeting is next week and we have a great meeting in store, including a special guest speaker! First up, our own Brett will be show us how to produce Python eggs and publish them to the Python Package Index (aka the Cheeseshop). Then Leo Soto, a Jython GSoC hacker, will be presenting his DjangoCon 2008 talk "Django on Jython". In Leo's own words: "Django is the most popular Python web framework, and have managed to go through the hard steps of making a high quality 1.0 release. The Jython project has awaken on the last years after a dark period, and is in the road of its 2.5 release. This scenario presents the cool opportunity of exploring the use of a modern Python web framework on top of the Java infrastructure. I will talk on how to use Django under Jython, the common pitfalls on this setup, and start some discussion about what can take the Python (and Django) community from the JVM, and what advantages Django development on top of Jython propose for Java projects." Also we'll get some news from DjangoCon (this weekend, 9/6 and 9/7), have some chats, surprise door prizes and maybe more- stay tuned! And after we'll head to either the Green Dragon patio or Produce Row. - Tuesday, September 9th 7PM at CubeSpace - Maps, RSVP, etc.: http://python.meetup.com/183/ Some pre-meeting links: Brett & Eggs: brett at rdnzl.net http://docs.python.org/lib/module-distutils.html http://pypi.python.org/pypi Leo & Django on Jython: http://blog.leosoto.com/ http://www.djangoproject.com/ http://www.jython.org/Project/ See you there! Cheers, Jason From jek at discorporate.us Tue Sep 9 01:14:30 2008 From: jek at discorporate.us (jason kirtland) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:14:30 -0700 Subject: [portland] Reminder: Meeting tomorrow! 7pm! In-Reply-To: <48BF033E.7030504@discorporate.us> References: <48BF033E.7030504@discorporate.us> Message-ID: <48C5B1D6.3070904@discorporate.us> Hi all, Just a reminder that we're meeting tomorrow at 7pm! It's going to be a great meeting- Brett will be showing us how to package up modules and contribute them to the Cheeseshop, and Leo (visiting us from Santiago, Chile) will be talking to us about Django and Jython- a great secret weapon to shoehorn Python into Java projects. ;) And if you're downtown today 5ish, stop in at Bailey's Taproom for a casual get together to welcome Leo and the Vidoop transplants to Portland. Cheers, Jason jason kirtland wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Our September Python meeting is next week and we have a great meeting in > store, including a special guest speaker! > > First up, our own Brett will be show us how to produce Python eggs and > publish them to the Python Package Index (aka the Cheeseshop). > > Then Leo Soto, a Jython GSoC hacker, will be presenting his DjangoCon > 2008 talk "Django on Jython". In Leo's own words: > > "Django is the most popular Python web framework, and have managed to go > through the hard steps of making a high quality 1.0 release. The Jython > project has awaken on the last years after a dark period, and is in the > road of its 2.5 release. This scenario presents the cool opportunity of > exploring the use of a modern Python web framework on top of the Java > infrastructure. > > I will talk on how to use Django under Jython, the common pitfalls on > this setup, and start some discussion about what can take the Python > (and Django) community from the JVM, and what advantages Django > development on top of Jython propose for Java projects." > > Also we'll get some news from DjangoCon (this weekend, 9/6 and 9/7), > have some chats, surprise door prizes and maybe more- stay tuned! And > after we'll head to either the Green Dragon patio or Produce Row. > > - Tuesday, September 9th 7PM at CubeSpace > - Maps, RSVP, etc.: http://python.meetup.com/183/ > > Some pre-meeting links: > > Brett & Eggs: > brett at rdnzl.net > http://docs.python.org/lib/module-distutils.html > http://pypi.python.org/pypi > > Leo & Django on Jython: > http://blog.leosoto.com/ > http://www.djangoproject.com/ > http://www.jython.org/Project/ > > See you there! > > Cheers, > Jason > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > From litlblob at spiritone.com Tue Sep 9 15:08:06 2008 From: litlblob at spiritone.com (litlblob at spiritone.com) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:08:06 -0700 Subject: [portland] Help For pySerial in XP Message-ID: <200809091308.m89D86aH030509@sapphire.spiritone.com> I'm involved in a project to use RS-232 and modify data between two systems. I have a small budget and could use some help. Sunday P.M. I put Python on one of two laptops. I spent most of Mon. P.M. trying to get pySerial into the Python. Tue. A.M. I'm re-loading XP on the second laptop. The end of this project will be to put Ubuntu on 5 'Wind' units, but I need to get the first up and running (Faster with the existing XP than to put Ubuntu on the laptops) in order to pay for the last sytems. I'm planning on being at the user group meeting tonight. Thanks for any help (In a way, E-Mail "focused on this" help would be great!) Larry T. From markgross at thegnar.org Tue Sep 9 15:45:22 2008 From: markgross at thegnar.org (mark gross) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:45:22 -0700 Subject: [portland] Help For pySerial in XP In-Reply-To: <200809091308.m89D86aH030509@sapphire.spiritone.com> References: <200809091308.m89D86aH030509@sapphire.spiritone.com> Message-ID: <20080909134522.GA5372@thegnar.org> I've used pyserial on linux before, what is your issue? do you have some test code that's failing? --mgross On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 06:08:06AM -0700, litlblob at spiritone.com wrote: > I'm involved in a project to use RS-232 and modify data between two > systems. I have a small budget and could use some help. Sunday > P.M. I put Python on one of two laptops. I spent most of Mon. P.M. > trying to get pySerial into the Python. Tue. A.M. I'm re-loading > XP on the second laptop. The end of this project will be to put > Ubuntu on 5 'Wind' units, but I need to get the first up and running > (Faster with the existing XP than to put Ubuntu on the laptops) in > order to pay for the last sytems. > > I'm planning on being at the user group meeting tonight. > > Thanks for any help (In a way, E-Mail "focused on this" help would be great!) > > Larry T. > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From Ron at FascinatingElectronics.com Tue Sep 9 18:04:12 2008 From: Ron at FascinatingElectronics.com (Ron Jackson) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:04:12 -0700 Subject: [portland] Help For pySerial in XP In-Reply-To: <20080909134522.GA5372@thegnar.org> References: <200809091308.m89D86aH030509@sapphire.spiritone.com> <20080909134522.GA5372@thegnar.org> Message-ID: <48C69E7C.9040009@FascinatingElectronics.com> Hey Larry, I've used PySerial on XP. It installed OK for me. You need to have PyWin32 installed for it to work. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32/ I've also used USPP, which I found to be an easier to understand implementation than PySerial. It also requires pywin32. Check out: http://ibarona.googlepages.com/uspp I am actually using USB hardware, which enumerates as a CDC device. I didn't need the legacy serial support features in both packages. So I ended up creating my own USB-specific library and directly calling the Win32File functions for read and write. USPP was very helpful for that. I'm planning on being at the meeting tonight also. -- Ron mark gross wrote: > I've used pyserial on linux before, what is your issue? > do you have some test code that's failing? > > --mgross > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 06:08:06AM -0700, litlblob at spiritone.com wrote: >> I'm involved in a project to use RS-232 and modify data between two >> systems. I have a small budget and could use some help. Sunday >> P.M. I put Python on one of two laptops. I spent most of Mon. P.M. >> trying to get pySerial into the Python. Tue. A.M. I'm re-loading >> XP on the second laptop. The end of this project will be to put >> Ubuntu on 5 'Wind' units, but I need to get the first up and running >> (Faster with the existing XP than to put Ubuntu on the laptops) in >> order to pay for the last sytems. >> >> I'm planning on being at the user group meeting tonight. >> >> Thanks for any help (In a way, E-Mail "focused on this" help would be great!) >> >> Larry T. >> _______________________________________________ >> Portland mailing list >> Portland at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 189 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > URL: > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -- Website: http://www.FascinatingElectronics.com Fascinating Electronics Inc, 925 SW 83 Avenue, Portland, OR 97225-6307 Toll Free: 800.683.5487 Direct Dial: 503.296.8579 From kirby.urner at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 21:32:00 2008 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:32:00 -0700 Subject: [portland] Recap and Possible Future Topic? Message-ID: For those of you not able to make it and/or for those that did, here's my little writeup of our meeting on Tuesday evening: http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2008/09/ppug-200899.html Apropos of DemocracyLab, I attended another meeting on that topic this morning, and would recommend this as a fun focus for some future PPUG presentation depending on Scott's availability. Scott is doing good work bridging the Python and Java worlds, with a little help from GWT and some others, as is our recent speaker and Jython developer Mr. Soto: http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2008/09/another-mad-cover.html I also 2nd Jason's idea of planning a Py3K release party (that's what we used to call the Python 3.0 project, mimicking Y2K, the impending "crisis" of that day). OK, time to follow the herd and go grab me a Chrome, just for fun, http://www.google.com/chrome Kirby Urner 4dsolutions.net learn2teach gnuMath: /ocn/cp4e.html From jek at discorporate.us Sat Sep 13 02:06:53 2008 From: jek at discorporate.us (jason kirtland) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:06:53 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! Message-ID: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> Hi all, Two new major versions of Python are nearly upon us. 2.6 is scheduled for release on October 1st, and Python 3.0 shortly after that. At the September meeting we talked about having a release party at our October meeting. There seemed to be general enthusiasm for the idea, so... - Do we want to have a party? (I.e. with snacks, "Beverage") - Or just a meeting and we talk about new features? - Or a combination? - If it's going to be a party: Beverage sponsor? Location? - Some volunteers to make it happen October's 2nd Tuesday is 10/14. The PostgreSQL Conference will be here in town Friday 10/10- Sunday 10/12. We could see about combining forces and throwing a combined Python/Postgres party, possibly on the Saturday. (Might make finding Beverage sponsorship easier!) Or not. Thoughts? -j From freyley at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 00:33:17 2008 From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:33:17 -0700 Subject: [portland] Fwd: [xpportland] Wed, Sep 17th: Agile Lightning Summaries Message-ID: <8db4a1910809131533s41271008if1f8d86a3e296332@mail.gmail.com> Folks, If you're interested in hearing what happened at the recent Agile Conference, or you like watching people try to fit everything into a minute, you might want to come for this. Agile Lightning Summaries Wednesday, September 17th 6:30pm, Cubespace http://calagator.org/events/1250455713 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Arlo Belshee Date: Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:06 PM Subject: [xpportland] Wed, September 17 evening meeting announcement To: xpportland at yahoogroups.com Agile Lightning Summaries Wed, September 17, 6:30pm (pizza), 7pm (talk), beer after. CubeSpace, 622 SE Grand, second floor. (http://www.cubespacepdx.com/directions) We're going to run a lightning summaries round on Agile 2008. Lightning summaries are a creative technique for exploring an area of knowledge. They consist of a large number of short talks on, or near, a theme. The rules are as follows: 1. Each talk lasts no longer than 60 seconds. 2. Each talk starts with the last sentence of the talk before it. Jon Marshall and Arlo Belshee ran a session at Agile Open NW, and it worked really well. It was a heck of a lot of fun, and we came up with all sorts of interesting juxtapositions and experiences. Also, lots of weird diagrams. This time, our theme will be current Agile thought, starting with what people experienced at Agile 2008. Of course, we wander from the theme routinely - it just gives us something to come back to after each flurry. So come, listen to experiences that remind you of things, and then give us your 60 seconds to take the conversation in an interesting direction. We will have a drawing surface (probably flipcharts), so draw away! You don't need to prepare anything - just bring your own experiences, insights, and conundrums. After all, in 60 seconds, you couldn't do much of a prepared talk anyway. As ever, we will follow the meeting with a chat and hang out at a local pub. Arlo __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Visit Your Group Search Ads Get new customers. List your web site in Yahoo! Search. Y! Messenger Want a quick chat? Chat over IM with group members. Real Food Group Share recipes and favorite meals w/ Real Food lovers. . __,_._,___ From freyley at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 00:51:46 2008 From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:51:46 -0700 Subject: [portland] Calagator sprints Message-ID: <8db4a1910809131551k2580e726m57e636e06e55c835@mail.gmail.com> Python folks, Calagator, a local open-sourced project to provide a calender aggregator for the tech community, is starting up again after the summer break. First, on Saturday, September 20th, from 10am-6pm there'll be a documentation sprint. This is primarily intended as a way to make it easy for new folks, and folks who haven't been in a while, to get involved in the project. There'll be lots of opportunities to learn about the project and contribute to it without any knowledge needed. I also want to show off a minimal reservations system intended to spark a discussion about what the right way to build such a system is. That leads into our next sprint, which is on October 4th. On Saturday, October 4th, from 10am-6pm, there'll be a sprint on the reservations system. This will be mostly new code, working on either the minimal base that I have, or on something else we decide at the September 20th sprint. Hopefully we'll be working in Django for this. http://calagator.org/events/1250455687 http://calagator.org/events/1250455720 If you can only come for a few minutes or a couple of hours, please feel free to drop by. Thanks, Jeff From mde at micahelliott.com Sun Sep 14 01:09:43 2008 From: mde at micahelliott.com (Micah Elliott) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:09:43 -0700 Subject: [portland] Calagator sprints In-Reply-To: <8db4a1910809131551k2580e726m57e636e06e55c835@mail.gmail.com> References: <8db4a1910809131551k2580e726m57e636e06e55c835@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1edb3c420809131609v7cd4bfd8v667166bd686cdce8@mail.gmail.com> Hi Jeff -- Thanks for the invite. If you do decide to work in Django, my team (4 devs) will probably want to join the sprints. I've added them to our calendar. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > Python folks, > > Calagator, a local open-sourced project to provide a calender > aggregator for the tech community, is starting up again after the > summer break. > > First, on Saturday, September 20th, from 10am-6pm there'll be a > documentation sprint. > > This is primarily intended as a way to make it easy for new folks, and > folks who haven't been in a while, to get involved in the project. > There'll be lots of opportunities to learn about the project and > contribute to it without any knowledge needed. > > I also want to show off a minimal reservations system intended to > spark a discussion about what the right way to build such a system is. > That leads into our next sprint, which is on October 4th. > > On Saturday, October 4th, from 10am-6pm, there'll be a sprint on the > reservations system. > > This will be mostly new code, working on either the minimal base that > I have, or on something else we decide at the September 20th sprint. > Hopefully we'll be working in Django for this. > > http://calagator.org/events/1250455687 > http://calagator.org/events/1250455720 > > If you can only come for a few minutes or a couple of hours, please > feel free to drop by. > > Thanks, > > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -- Micah Elliott | mde at MicahElliott.com | http://MicahElliott.blogspot.com From freyley at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 01:28:33 2008 From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 16:28:33 -0700 Subject: [portland] Fermentation Message-ID: <8db4a1910809131628t434c5282h4fce9e7321c108ab@mail.gmail.com> Hey Python folks, As I may have announced at the last meeting, there's now a group for Fermentation geeks. pdxferment! http://groups.google.com/group/pdxferment/ If it sounds a little like revolution, well, that ain't bad. Our first meeting is on September 21st at 2pm, at Foster & Dobbs. http://calagator.org/events/1250455715 Thanks, Jeff From spkane00 at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 18:42:20 2008 From: spkane00 at gmail.com (Sean P. Kane) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:42:20 -0700 Subject: [portland] Looking for strong Python/Django developer in the Portland area In-Reply-To: <285a1a5b0809141054td3d6224n1bfffb28d4a4349@mail.gmail.com> References: <285a1a5b0809141054td3d6224n1bfffb28d4a4349@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <285a1a5b0809150942q417f84a7qc91151d59ddc2d87@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone. I am looking for an agile and enthusiastic Python/Django developer in the Portland area. I have a business idea that I am starting with a friend and we are looking for a reliable developer to join the team. This isn't currently a full-time gig, so it could be in addition to any other work the one might be doing, as long as you can commit some regular level of effort to this and helping get our prototype off the ground, quickly. Is this something that you would be interested in talking about more, or could you make any recommendations of strong candidates? Thanks, Sean -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean P. Kane spkane00 at gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jd at commandprompt.com Mon Sep 15 20:50:28 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:50:28 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> Message-ID: <20080915115028.7ff0458f@jd-laptop> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:06:53 -0700 jason kirtland wrote: > October's 2nd Tuesday is 10/14. The PostgreSQL Conference will be > here in town Friday 10/10- Sunday 10/12. We could see about > combining forces and throwing a combined Python/Postgres party, > possibly on the Saturday. (Might make finding Beverage sponsorship > easier!) Or not. Just to throw in my two cents. Generally the conference has a party we could dual license the party :P if people were up for it. The only issue is to figure out how to deal with folks that come to the party but don't come to the conference. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > Thoughts? > > -j > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From igal at pragmaticraft.com Tue Sep 16 20:57:15 2008 From: igal at pragmaticraft.com (Igal Koshevoy) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:57:15 -0700 Subject: [portland] Calagator sprints In-Reply-To: <1edb3c420809131609v7cd4bfd8v667166bd686cdce8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8db4a1910809131551k2580e726m57e636e06e55c835@mail.gmail.com> <1edb3c420809131609v7cd4bfd8v667166bd686cdce8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D0018B.1070602@pragmaticraft.com> Micah, Great, thanks for the interest. I look forward to seeing you and your team there. -igal (Calagator co-developer) Micah Elliott wrote: > Hi Jeff -- Thanks for the invite. If you do decide to work in Django, > my team (4 devs) will probably want to join the sprints. I've added > them to our calendar. > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > >> Python folks, >> >> Calagator, a local open-sourced project to provide a calender >> aggregator for the tech community, is starting up again after the >> summer break. >> >> First, on Saturday, September 20th, from 10am-6pm there'll be a >> documentation sprint. >> >> This is primarily intended as a way to make it easy for new folks, and >> folks who haven't been in a while, to get involved in the project. >> There'll be lots of opportunities to learn about the project and >> contribute to it without any knowledge needed. >> >> I also want to show off a minimal reservations system intended to >> spark a discussion about what the right way to build such a system is. >> That leads into our next sprint, which is on October 4th. >> >> On Saturday, October 4th, from 10am-6pm, there'll be a sprint on the >> reservations system. >> >> This will be mostly new code, working on either the minimal base that >> I have, or on something else we decide at the September 20th sprint. >> Hopefully we'll be working in Django for this. >> >> http://calagator.org/events/1250455687 >> http://calagator.org/events/1250455720 >> >> If you can only come for a few minutes or a couple of hours, please >> feel free to drop by. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff >> _______________________________________________ >> Portland mailing list >> Portland at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland >> >> > > > > From bmurray at aiveacorp.aivea.com Tue Sep 16 21:09:25 2008 From: bmurray at aiveacorp.aivea.com (Beth Murray) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:09:25 -0700 Subject: [portland] Hillsboro-Contract- Start Date September 22nd Message-ID: Hi, My name is Beth and I wanted two post two contract jobs available in the area. Looking for a Senior Developer and also a mid level one. Start date September 22nd. Feel free to forward to friends and other interested parties. Have a great day. Title: Senior Developer - UNIX or Linux, Python ORMs - Duration: 4 months+ Location: Hillsboro, OR Job Description: ========== In this position, you will be working with a team of talented software engineers at all layers of an exciting and multi-faceted software project that includes cluster technology, Web application frameworks, Web 2.0 and Web 3.0 technologies, and database technologies such as ORMs. You will be responsible for both high-level and low-level aspects of the project, from the design and documentation of APIs to the actual implementation. As time permits, there may also be opportunities to optimize and tune software/systems for increased performance. This project is geared towards next-generation sequencing and bioinformatics, and there is opportunity to learn about this rapidly evolving field of biology. 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A party sounds good, but I'd definitely like to hear a discussion of the changes either at this event or the next meeting. Would anyone in the group be interested in presenting a summary of the changes and show code samples? If coming up with a real presentation seems like too much, we've had great luck in other groups by simply having a facilitator read through the list of changes, have people in the audience jump in if they're familiar with them, and then demo these live on the projector. Some ways to do such an event: - Go to CubeSpace for the technical content and then go to another venue for food and drink. This would be the easiest thing to do, especially if we expect a modest-sized group. - Have the entire event at CubeSpace, and offer drink and maybe food. This would require some planning and someone to act as cashier, but kegs and pizza are easy to arrange and are affordable. I handled planning for an event of this sort recently and would be glad to assist. The food/drink can be sponsored, or we could collect donations before and at the event. However, for this to work, we'd need a reasonable idea of expected attendance to figure out how much to buy. - Have the entire event at the Holocene, where they have a screen, as well as a bar and kitchen. We had some medium-sized Ruby events there in the past, and these were easy to do because the venue took care of food/drink and was free/cheap as long as attendees bought enough food/drinks. However, reserving the space may be tricky because they have a fairly full calendar of concerts. > The PostgreSQL Conference will be here in town Friday 10/10- Sunday > 10/12. We could see about combining forces and throwing a combined > Python/Postgres party, possibly on the Saturday. (Might make finding > Beverage sponsorship easier!) Interesting suggestion. I've contacted Selena of the PostgreSQL group and CC'ed Jason to see if she thinks this may be a good match, whether an event is already in the works, and who we can talk with about this further. -igal From jd at commandprompt.com Tue Sep 16 23:50:07 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:50:07 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> Message-ID: <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:58:44 -0700 Igal Koshevoy wrote: > > The PostgreSQL Conference will be here in town Friday 10/10- Sunday > > 10/12. We could see about combining forces and throwing a combined > > Python/Postgres party, possibly on the Saturday. (Might make finding > > Beverage sponsorship easier!) > Interesting suggestion. I've contacted Selena of the PostgreSQL group > and CC'ed Jason to see if she thinks this may be a good match, whether > an event is already in the works, and who we can talk with about this > further. The person you need to talk to is me :P Joshua D. Drake > > -igal > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From RWagoner at volt.com Tue Sep 16 23:29:08 2008 From: RWagoner at volt.com (Wagoner, Roger) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:29:08 -0700 Subject: [portland] Python Developer Position Message-ID: Hi, I'm a technical recruiter new to this list, and I'm hoping that I've found the correct place to let people know about open jobs (if not please let me know!). I have 2 Python development contracts that opened today in Portland area; please let me know if you'd like more detail. Thanks, Roger Wagoner Technical Recruiter Six Sigma Yellow Belt Volt Technical Resources 1300 SW 5th Ave, Suite 2625 | Portland, OR 97201 rwagoner at volt.com | t: 503.221.8797. | f: 503.221.6992 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From igal at pragmaticraft.com Wed Sep 17 00:46:58 2008 From: igal at pragmaticraft.com (Igal Koshevoy) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:46:58 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> Message-ID: <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> Joshua Drake wrote: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:58:44 -0700 > Igal Koshevoy wrote: > >> Interesting suggestion. I've contacted Selena of the PostgreSQL group >> and CC'ed Jason to see if she thinks this may be a good match, whether >> an event is already in the works, and who we can talk with about this >> further. >> > > The person you need to talk to is me :P Doh. Your recent reply to Jason makes a lot more sense now that I realize that the "we" meant PostgreSQL, and not Python. :> > The only > issue is to figure out how to deal with folks that come to the party > but don't come to the conference. That'd be good to resolve so that this event can be accessible to general Python enthusiasts. Is there an issue of badged access to the venue or the costs? If it's the later, I'm sure that if a funding target was published, something could be resolved with donations and sponsorships to make this work. -igal PS: I enjoyed your "Practical PostgreSQL" book and was just looking at your conference announcement post this morning when adding the event to Calagator. Sorry for not realizing who you were sooner. From jd at commandprompt.com Wed Sep 17 00:56:37 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:56:37 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> Message-ID: <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:46:58 -0700 Igal Koshevoy wrote: > > The person you need to talk to is me :P > Doh. Your recent reply to Jason makes a lot more sense now that I > realize that the "we" meant PostgreSQL, and not Python. :> Well it works either way. Python is my preferred language :) > That'd be good to resolve so that this event can be accessible to > general Python enthusiasts. Is there an issue of badged access to the > venue or the costs? If it's the later, I'm sure that if a funding > target was published, something could be resolved with donations and > sponsorships to make this work. Traditionally we have a party Saturday night right after the conference, so around 6-6:30. Last year we charged a 10.00 door fee for those who wanted to come but didn't necessarily want to go to the conference (and husbands/wives etc...). The party at this time is set to be at the Paramount Hotel/Dragon Fish cafe. Last year we had about 40 people (the conference was bigger). It was a blast. Of course the more people we can get to come to the conference the better. It would be easy enough to just have badges you get when you go to the conference. If you don't have a badge, cough up 10 bucks? Does that seem reasonable? > > -igal > > PS: I enjoyed your "Practical PostgreSQL" book and was just looking at > your conference announcement post this morning when adding the event > to Calagator. Sorry for not realizing who you were sooner. No sweat, I don't consider myself famous :) Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From igal at pragmaticraft.com Wed Sep 17 02:18:46 2008 From: igal at pragmaticraft.com (Igal Koshevoy) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:18:46 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> Message-ID: <48D04CE6.3060108@pragmaticraft.com> Joshua Drake wrote: > Traditionally we have a party Saturday night right after the > conference, so around 6-6:30. Last year we charged a 10.00 door fee for > those who wanted to come but didn't necessarily want to go to the > conference (and husbands/wives etc...). > > The party at this time is set to be at the Paramount Hotel/Dragon > Fish cafe. Last year we had about 40 people (the conference was > bigger). It was a blast. Of course the more people we can get to come > to the conference the better. > > It would be easy enough to just have badges you get when you go to the > conference. If you don't have a badge, cough up 10 bucks? Does that > seem reasonable? Thank you for making this offer, your solution sounds simple and reasonable. So how about the Pythoneers join the PostgreSQL conference party to celebrate, then a couple days later at the October meeting, spend some time reviewing the changes in these new releases at CubeSpace, and then probably celebrate a bit more? Jason, everyone else ... your thoughts? -igal From jd at commandprompt.com Wed Sep 17 02:34:01 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:34:01 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <48D04CE6.3060108@pragmaticraft.com> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> <48D04CE6.3060108@pragmaticraft.com> Message-ID: <20080916173401.3e96eddf@jd-laptop> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:18:46 -0700 Igal Koshevoy wrote: > So how about the Pythoneers join the PostgreSQL conference party to > celebrate, then a couple days later at the October meeting, spend some > time reviewing the changes in these new releases at CubeSpace, and > then probably celebrate a bit more? > > Jason, everyone else ... your thoughts? Well if you don't mind one minor suggestion. I have zero problem making space at the conference for python folks. Now unfortunately I would have to do the standard charges for it but it would enable you to talk a bit about python? A little advocacy along with the upcoming release? I would be happy to open a slot for the group. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > -igal > -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From RWagoner at volt.com Wed Sep 17 17:08:10 2008 From: RWagoner at volt.com (Wagoner, Roger) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:08:10 -0700 Subject: [portland] 2 Python Development positions Message-ID: Hi everyone, Someone just asked me to resend my Python job with more info, so here we go! My client is looking for a junior and a senior level developer for two 4 month contracts in the Portland area. The junior level position will be integrating the application and user interfaces, doing development, debug, integration and test creation. The senior level position will be working with a team of SW engineers on high and low level aspects, including design and documentation of the APIs to implementation. Ideal candidates would have experience in any or all of the following: SQLAlchemy, web application development, Web 3.0, PostgresSQL or SQLite, and open source software development. If you're interested, please contact me at the email below or give me a call. Thanks, Roger Wagoner Technical Recruiter Six Sigma Yellow Belt Volt Technical Resources 1300 SW 5th Ave, Suite 2625 | Portland, OR 97201 rwagoner at volt.com | t: 503.221.8797. | f: 503.221.6992 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jd at commandprompt.com Wed Sep 17 19:12:20 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:12:20 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <20080916173401.3e96eddf@jd-laptop> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> <48D04CE6.3060108@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916173401.3e96eddf@jd-laptop> Message-ID: <20080917101220.7fe198de@jd-laptop> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:34:01 -0700 Joshua Drake wrote: > Well if you don't mind one minor suggestion. I have zero problem > making space at the conference for python folks. Now unfortunately I > would have to do the standard charges for it but it would enable you > to talk a bit about python? A little advocacy along with the upcoming > release? I would be happy to open a slot for the group. Also I thought it might be interesting to invite SEAPY... what do you guys think? Joshua D. Drake -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From kirby.urner at gmail.com Thu Sep 18 01:12:01 2008 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:12:01 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> Message-ID: > A party sounds good, but I'd definitely like to hear a discussion of the > changes either at this event or the next meeting. > I've been spinning Py3K as a "mock apocalypse" kind of in parody of Y2K, for which Py3K was named in some degree. Here you had a bunch of people running around thinking the world would end because 99 would become 00 and we'd suddenly have no money! > Would anyone in the group be interested in presenting a summary of the > changes and show code samples? > I just blew my T-shirt budget on DemocracyLab T-shirts (for September), but I bet there's a market for esoteric and allusive slogan's like >>> print ( "this" ) -- a dig at Python 2.5's inability to do so. Some of you have probably been chuckling about this one, more Django-related: http://hackety.org/2008/09/15/documentsRevealDjangoPonyTailOfLies.html > If coming up with a real presentation seems like too much, we've had > great luck in other groups by simply having a facilitator read through > the list of changes, have people in the audience jump in if they're > familiar with them, and then demo these live on the projector. > Or we could all writhe on the floor under a strobe light because the world is soon to end... Keeping Portland weird, Kirby From jd at commandprompt.com Thu Sep 18 01:48:01 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:48:01 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> Message-ID: <20080917164801.125a4a4f@jd-laptop> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:12:01 -0700 "kirby urner" wrote: > > A party sounds good, but I'd definitely like to hear a discussion > > of the changes either at this event or the next meeting. O.k. PgCon.West confirmed their party reservations at the Portland Paramount : http://www.portlandparamount.com. They use the food from the Dragon Fish Cafe which is mucho beuno. I also confirmed that we can do the 10.00 ticket deal for those who wish to not come to the conference. Are we all in or what? Joshua D. Drake -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From igal at pragmaticraft.com Mon Sep 22 11:03:21 2008 From: igal at pragmaticraft.com (Igal Koshevoy) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:03:21 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <20080916173401.3e96eddf@jd-laptop> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> <48D04CE6.3060108@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916173401.3e96eddf@jd-laptop> Message-ID: <48D75F59.9060905@pragmaticraft.com> > > So how about the Pythoneers join the PostgreSQL conference party to > celebrate, then a couple days later at the October meeting, spend some > time reviewing the changes in these new releases at CubeSpace, and > then probably celebrate a bit more? Jason, everyone else ... your thoughts? > Pythoneers, are you in? Any objections before I add this event to Calagator? Joshua Drake wrote: > Well if you don't mind one minor suggestion. I have zero problem making > space at the conference for python folks. Now unfortunately I would > have to do the standard charges for it but it would enable you to talk > a bit about python? A little advocacy along with the upcoming release? > I would be happy to open a slot for the group. Thanks for the offer. What would the charges to presenters or attendees be like? Keep in mind that the group doesn't have financial backing, and is thus limited by what donors are willing to offer for a good cause. Would anyone like to present something? For example, one immediately relevant topic that comes to mind is using PL/Python to write PostgreSQL functions and triggers in Python. This feature's been bundled with PostgreSQL for a long time, works great, and -- when compared to PL/pgSQL -- helps programmers and DBAs write clearer, more maintainable code. -igal From jd at commandprompt.com Mon Sep 22 18:22:16 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:22:16 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <48D75F59.9060905@pragmaticraft.com> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> <48D04CE6.3060108@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916173401.3e96eddf@jd-laptop> <48D75F59.9060905@pragmaticraft.com> Message-ID: <20080922092216.7e77625a@jd-laptop> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:03:21 -0700 Igal Koshevoy wrote: > Joshua Drake wrote: > > Well if you don't mind one minor suggestion. I have zero problem > > making space at the conference for python folks. Now unfortunately > > I would have to do the standard charges for it but it would enable > > you to talk a bit about python? A little advocacy along with the > > upcoming release? I would be happy to open a slot for the group. > Thanks for the offer. What would the charges to presenters or > attendees be like? Keep in mind that the group doesn't have financial > backing, and is thus limited by what donors are willing to offer for > a good cause. Professors, Students and presenters are free. Professionals are 75.00 dollars. You can see full details here: http://www.pgcon.us/ All the proceeds are going to PostgreSQL United States, a 501c3. I could easily offer two more 45 minutes slots without juggling things. > > Would anyone like to present something? For example, one immediately > relevant topic that comes to mind is using PL/Python to write > PostgreSQL functions and triggers in Python. This feature's been > bundled with PostgreSQL for a long time, works great, and -- when > compared to PL/pgSQL -- helps programmers and DBAs write clearer, > more maintainable code. Uhh... igal; sounds like you could speak quite well on the topic itself. How about you :P. It would be an excellent companion to the SQL Alchemy talk that Jek is giving. Joshua D. Drake -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate From jd at commandprompt.com Sat Sep 27 02:43:54 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:43:54 -0700 Subject: [portland] Planning for October Meeting / Python Release Party! In-Reply-To: <20080922092216.7e77625a@jd-laptop> References: <48CB041D.9040507@discorporate.us> <48D01E04.2090802@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916145007.06f0b49c@jd-laptop> <48D03762.1010104@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916155637.279e1c74@jd-laptop> <48D04CE6.3060108@pragmaticraft.com> <20080916173401.3e96eddf@jd-laptop> <48D75F59.9060905@pragmaticraft.com> <20080922092216.7e77625a@jd-laptop> Message-ID: <20080926174354.1610de83@jd-laptop> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:22:16 -0700 Joshua Drake wrote: > > Would anyone like to present something? For example, one immediately > > relevant topic that comes to mind is using PL/Python to write > > PostgreSQL functions and triggers in Python. This feature's been > > bundled with PostgreSQL for a long time, works great, and -- when > > compared to PL/pgSQL -- helps programmers and DBAs write clearer, > > more maintainable code. > > Uhh... igal; sounds like you could speak quite well on the topic > itself. How about you :P. It would be an excellent companion to the > SQL Alchemy talk that Jek is giving. So what are we doing? We have heard no objections but I don't want to put you guys on the schedule unless it is something you really want to do. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > Joshua D. Drake > > -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/ From jd at commandprompt.com Tue Sep 30 01:34:53 2008 From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua Drake) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:34:53 -0700 Subject: [portland] Pgcon: West schedule posted Message-ID: <20080929163453.475db1e3@jd-laptop> Hello, We have a tentative schedule posted. There is still room to get the Pythoners in on the gig. Just let me know. http://www.pgcon.us/west08/schedule Joshua D. Drake -- The PostgreSQL Company since 1997: http://www.commandprompt.com/ PostgreSQL Community Conference: http://www.postgresqlconference.org/ United States PostgreSQL Association: http://www.postgresql.us/