[Pandas-dev] Remove old mailing lists

[Marc Garcia]

I was granting admin permissions to maintainers on the new Discourse, and
looks like we've got a limit of 5. Spoke with Discourse support, and they
want us to pay >$300 per month to have more. I think we could live with
this, but I'm a bit worried about their open source plan being more of a
freemium plan they use to make big open source projects pay. I was reading
the details of the conditions, and seems like we also have bandwidth limits
we may reach.

An alternative is to host the instance ourselves. If we do that, we can
also consider other alternatives. Just seem Flarum, which is in beta, but
at a first glance it looks like it manages subcategories in a way that
would make it possible to have a NumFOCUS broad forum. Not sure if they
have the feature of letting categories/subcategories behave as mailing
lists, need to research.

What are your thoughts?

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 9:12 PM Marc Garcia <garcia.marc at gmail.com> wrote:

> That's the GitHub issue, most of the discussion was in a thread in this
> (pandas-dev) list. I'm in my phone and can't look for the thread now, but I
> think it started in the conversation about the website hosting, and then
> Joris created a separate thread specific to Discourse.
>
> As I said, I have no preference on Discourse (never used it as I said),
> but I think what we have now is suboptimal, and would be great to have
> something better. But we had that discussion several weeks ago. We decided
> to move forward with Discourse at that time. I spent many hours learning
> about it, and setting it up. So, I'm not really looking forward to start
> again with this. I'm happy to hand over this to you, if you want to
> research further and lead the discussion. And implement whatever is best.
>
> But if I need to continue spending time on this myself, I'd appreciate if
> you can find solutions and not problems. I have no idea about how to set up
> Discourse as a mailing list, or how to do it for subcommunities. But if you
> have a specific way you want it to work, please do the research, and
> propose (and implement) the best solution for all us. Or is your proposal
> to stay with what we have.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, 20:46 Pietro Battiston, <me at pietrobattiston.it>
> wrote:
>
>> Marc,
>>
>> is the thread you refer to
>> https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas/issues/27903 ?
>>
>> Again, I didn't participate in the discussion, I am not contributing
>> much lately, and so my opinion is not very important. But I had
>> followed the discussion, I now checked the thread above, and while I
>> derived the idea that Discourse could (and probably should) replace the
>> pydata ML as a frontend to users (ideally of pydata, not just pandas),
>> I fail to see a real discussion, or even just arguments, in favour of
>> replacing the devs MLs.
>>
>>
>> Il giorno mar, 12/11/2019 alle 20.21 +0100, Marc Garcia ha scritto:
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > As it has been said, Discourse can be set up to work as a mailing
>> > list for people who don't want to use the Discourse interface. So, I
>> > don't think this should be a reason to not move forward, you'll just
>> > need to subscribe elsewhere, and send messages to a different email
>> > address.
>>
>> I just read the FAQ about how to "use Discourse via email"... I guess
>> we can live with filtering incoming emails by List-ID, but I don't
>> understand whether there will be multiple emails address to write to,
>> for the different "subcommunities". Could you shed some light?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pietro
>>
>>
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, 20:46 Pietro Battiston, <me at pietrobattiston.it>
> wrote:
>
>> Marc,
>>
>> is the thread you refer to
>> https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas/issues/27903 ?
>>
>> Again, I didn't participate in the discussion, I am not contributing
>> much lately, and so my opinion is not very important. But I had
>> followed the discussion, I now checked the thread above, and while I
>> derived the idea that Discourse could (and probably should) replace the
>> pydata ML as a frontend to users (ideally of pydata, not just pandas),
>> I fail to see a real discussion, or even just arguments, in favour of
>> replacing the devs MLs.
>>
>>
>> Il giorno mar, 12/11/2019 alle 20.21 +0100, Marc Garcia ha scritto:
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > As it has been said, Discourse can be set up to work as a mailing
>> > list for people who don't want to use the Discourse interface. So, I
>> > don't think this should be a reason to not move forward, you'll just
>> > need to subscribe elsewhere, and send messages to a different email
>> > address.
>>
>> I just read the FAQ about how to "use Discourse via email"... I guess
>> we can live with filtering incoming emails by List-ID, but I don't
>> understand whether there will be multiple emails address to write to,
>> for the different "subcommunities". Could you shed some light?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pietro
>>
>>
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