[omaha] Idea for Multi - meeting/person/topic presentations

Steve Young wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
Thu Mar 15 16:59:40 CET 2012


I am able to make posts, but not edit pages.

Steve


On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Jeff Hinrichs <jeffh at delasco.com> wrote:

> Sounds fine Steve, you should have permission to make the changes, let me
> know if that is not the case.
>
> Best,
>
> -Jeff
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Wed is fine. See other email for details.
> >
> > Jeff, we should update the 'where and when' page on the website to
> reflect
> > the changes.  I can do it if you give me permission.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> >
> > > I'm open to any app type that meets the general requirements.  And no
> > group
> > > project will last forever as a demo since it will eventually "be done"
> or
> > > so advanced in coding techniques that it will no longer serve as an
> > > introductory app for new members.
> > >
> > > As for it being a Todo app, Paul Graham thinks it could be a great
> idea.
> > > http://paulgraham.com/ambitious.html. #2. :-!  Prolly not but who
> knows?
> > > I'm hoping once we get it under way others will volunteer to use it as
> a
> > > base for their talk on subject X.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > On Mar 14, 2012 8:44 PM, "Steve Young" <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I love the idea.  Sounds like a great way to learn Python and much
> > more.
> > >  I
> > > > must say a ToDo app isn't very exciting - but I can't think of
> anything
> > > > better at the moment...
> > > >
> > > > Next meeting is this Monday.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> > > > <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There have been requests for a beginning Python topic for each
> > meeting
> > > in
> > > > > addition to the current type of topics.  From prior presentations
> on
> > > > > beginning topics, they are usually quite dry, running down a
> laundry
> > > list
> > > > > of topics from dictionaries, to PEP8 to iterators, etc.  The
> > > > presentations
> > > > > are ok but I was thinking about a way to have a multi-focus project
> > > that
> > > > > would cover the spectrum.  Something completely different...
> > > > >
> > > > > As a thought experiment, pick a slightly more than trivial project
> --
> > > say
> > > > > Gina Trapani's Todo.txt  http://todotxt.com/  -- a nifty idea for
> a
> > > > > simplistic but workable todo list app.  But built on a hodge podge
> of
> > > > bash,
> > > > > awk, sed with plugin's using programming langauges all over the
> > > universe.
> > > > > Say we agreed to re-implement the app in Python.  It's GPL we can
> do
> > > > that.
> > > > >  It is flat file based with lots of string processing and user
> > > > interaction
> > > > > -- just the kind of stuff that make for a decent first program.  We
> > can
> > > > > show off file handling, iterators, etc.    Pretty good topics for
> > > > beginning
> > > > > pythonistas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now we have also had requests for presentations on testing.   This
> > > would
> > > > > make a good vehicle for demonstrating unit tests, smoke tests,
> > > > integration
> > > > > tests and acceptance testing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every meeting we would have someone volunteer to give a talk on
> > topic X
> > > > and
> > > > > use this on-going project as the guinea pig for demonstrating.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   - We would host the code up on a public repository, say bitbucket
> > and
> > > > >   then people could demo using mercurial and git.
> > > > >   - It would be a candidate for using Tox
> > > > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/toxto
> > > > >   assist in making it 2/3 compatible
> > > > >   - Documenting your project with sphinx and/or read the docs
> > > > >   http://readthedocs.org/
> > > > >      - checking your documentation examples with doctests
> > > > >   - Packaging your app for Linux, Mac, Windows and putting it up on
> > > pypi
> > > > >   - Using nosetest   w/wo coverage.py
> > > > >   - The list goes on, webify it, make a gui, etc, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now not every talk would be using this "group project" as the
> example
> > > --
> > > > a
> > > > > lot of times it just wouldn't make sense, but when it did make
> sense,
> > > we
> > > > > would have a common code base that all were familiar with or could
> > get
> > > > > familiar with quickly.
> > > > >
> > > > > I look forward to your responses -- I hope you get my angle on
> this,
> > > but
> > > > I
> > > > > think we could make this or something like this a real win for the
> > > group.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Hinrichs
> > > > > 402.218.1473
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