From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Sep  3 04:16:04 2008
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:16:04 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting - 9/3
Message-ID: <5aaed53f0809021916jd899b5p4e8248b9b174a927@mail.gmail.com>

The next meeting is tomorrow.  http://www.omahapython.org/

Does anyone have a topic that they would like to speak about?


-Jeff

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From elicriffield at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 20:05:36 2008
From: elicriffield at gmail.com (Eli Criffield)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:05:36 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting - 9/3
In-Reply-To: <5aaed53f0809021916jd899b5p4e8248b9b174a927@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5aaed53f0809021916jd899b5p4e8248b9b174a927@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18e3f33d0809031105l72eac2bcu1b144ea1a7c4476e@mail.gmail.com>

I will be there, and i have one google hat to give away as a door prize.

We can always just do lightning talks about your favorite python tips.

Eli

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:
> The next meeting is tomorrow.  http://www.omahapython.org/
>
> Does anyone have a topic that they would like to speak about?
>
>
> -Jeff
>
> --
> Jeff Hinrichs
> Dundee Media & Technology, Inc
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Wed Sep  3 20:09:55 2008
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:09:55 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Upcoming Meeting - 9/3
In-Reply-To: <18e3f33d0809031105l72eac2bcu1b144ea1a7c4476e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5aaed53f0809021916jd899b5p4e8248b9b174a927@mail.gmail.com>
	<18e3f33d0809031105l72eac2bcu1b144ea1a7c4476e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5aaed53f0809031109y5f60842bgcfe8c35e4c2e705d@mail.gmail.com>

Outstanding!

2.6 was just released - AMK has his always helpful "What's New"  page up
too.   http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html

Look forward to seeing you there.

-Jeff

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Eli Criffield <elicriffield at gmail.com>wrote:

> I will be there, and i have one google hat to give away as a door prize.
>
> We can always just do lightning talks about your favorite python tips.
>
> Eli
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> wrote:
> > The next meeting is tomorrow.  http://www.omahapython.org/
> >
> > Does anyone have a topic that they would like to speak about?
> >
> >
> > -Jeff
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > Dundee Media & Technology, Inc
> > jeffh at dundeemt.com
> > 402.218.1473
> > web: www.dundeemt.com
> > blog: inre.dundeemt.com
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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Fri Sep  5 05:34:47 2008
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:34:47 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Disco Friday?
Message-ID: <5aaed53f0809042034j3f4757c5sfba713230b513466@mail.gmail.com>

On the CouchDB list someone just brought up Disco -- new project, just a
couple of days old.

"Disco is an open-source implementation of the Map-Reduce
framework<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MapReduce>for distributed
computing. As the original framework, Disco supports
parallel computations over large data sets on unreliable cluster of
computers.

The Disco core is written in Erlang <http://www.erlang.org/>, a functional
language that is designed for building robust fault-tolerant distributed
applications. Users of Disco typically write jobs in
Python<http://www.python.org/>,
which makes it possible to express even complex algorithms or data
processing tasks often only in tens of lines of code. This means that you
can quickly write scripts to process massive amounts of data."

http://discoproject.org/

Kind of funny since we were talking about Erlang at the last Python
meeting.


hmmmm.

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From mike at hostetlerhome.com  Mon Sep  8 15:42:52 2008
From: mike at hostetlerhome.com (Mike Hostetler)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:42:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [omaha] Spring for Python
Message-ID: <35347.69.58.248.102.1220881372.squirrel@email.powweb.com>



Maybe I'm the only Java guy in the group, so then I'm the only one that
will find this interesting:

http://springpython.webfactional.com/

A Python version is
interesting to say the least.? It should make it easier for DB
interaction.? For Inversion of Control, it maybe seem silly in Python
but I use Java Spring all the time in Jython and I find it wonderful.


From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Mon Sep  8 16:22:55 2008
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:22:55 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Spring for Python
In-Reply-To: <35347.69.58.248.102.1220881372.squirrel@email.powweb.com>
References: <35347.69.58.248.102.1220881372.squirrel@email.powweb.com>
Message-ID: <5aaed53f0809080722i13bd810wdb5b98d2679ef012@mail.gmail.com>

Do you have any experience with sqlAlchemy or Elixir?  If so, how does
springpython compare/contrast to existing python ORMs or is python spring
more than just database?  Sorry but I don't have any spring knowledge.

-Jeff

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Mike Hostetler <mike at hostetlerhome.com>wrote:

>
>
> Maybe I'm the only Java guy in the group, so then I'm the only one that
> will find this interesting:
>
> http://springpython.webfactional.com/
>
> A Python version is
> interesting to say the least.  It should make it easier for DB
> interaction.  For Inversion of Control, it maybe seem silly in Python
> but I use Java Spring all the time in Jython and I find it wonderful.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
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From choman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 05:09:18 2008
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:09:18 -0500
Subject: [omaha] 2.6 and 3.0
Message-ID: <d74b4e610809082009q29cc610etc2aab795a28cc46a@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all, as announced at the python meeting last Wednesday.  The beta3 of
python 2.6
and 3.0 was released for linux/unix systems.  I just looked today and the M$
Windows
versions are now available as well.  yippe...progress

enjoy

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From mike at hostetlerhome.com  Tue Sep  9 14:39:49 2008
From: mike at hostetlerhome.com (Mike Hostetler)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:39:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [omaha] Spring for Python
In-Reply-To: <5aaed53f0809080722i13bd810wdb5b98d2679ef012@mail.gmail.com>
References: <35347.69.58.248.102.1220881372.squirrel@email.powweb.com>
	<5aaed53f0809080722i13bd810wdb5b98d2679ef012@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50553.69.58.248.102.1220963989.squirrel@email.powweb.com>



I have some experience with SQLObject.? Spring isn't an ORM but (on
the Java side at least) it makes using ORM's easier.

What
Spring does do for databases and? Java (and Python, by looking at the
pages) is that it makes a common way to access the SQL layer.? In
Java, it is nice -- you configure your database, inject into a
SimpleJDBCTemplate object, and then you can use that anywhere you
like.? Want to change database platforms?? Just change the
config!

On the? ORM note, I'll send you one of my favorite
articles on the subject:
http://blogs.tedneward.com/2006/06/26/The+Vietnam+Of+Computer+Science.aspx


Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T wrote:
> Do you have any
experience with sqlAlchemy or Elixir?  If so, how does
>
springpython compare/contrast to existing python ORMs or is python
spring
> more than just database?  Sorry but I don't have any
spring knowledge.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> On Mon,
Sep 8, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Mike Hostetler
>
<mike at hostetlerhome.com>wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Maybe I'm the only Java guy in the group, so then
I'm the only one that
>> will find this interesting:
>>
>> http://springpython.webfactional.com/
>>
>> A Python version is
>> interesting to
say the least.  It should make it easier for DB
>> interaction.
 For Inversion of Control, it maybe seem silly in Python
>> but
I use Java Spring all the time in Jython and I find it wonderful.
>>
>>
_______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python
Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>>
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>>
http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> 
> 
>

> --
> Jeff Hinrichs
> Dundee Media &
Technology, Inc
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> 402.218.1473
> web: www.dundeemt.com
> blog: inre.dundeemt.com
>
_______________________________________________
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Users Group mailing list
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>
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>
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From bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu  Tue Sep  9 15:32:12 2008
From: bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:32:12 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Re Python
Message-ID: <OFDCD48EA5.D56D4566-ON862574BF.004A5C2C@nebraska.edu>

Hi Mike

Thanks for taking the time for me last night. I think I found a piece of code last night that will help solve this problem. I just don't understand it so I will send it to you for discussion. Basically if we find the position in the string where Principal position is then we need to find the closest table tag w/o using Bsoup. A shortcut will be to not begin at the beginning but start at some fraction of the position where PP exists. I am thinking that we would take the integer that is the result of taking  the string location for PP and say divide by 7. 

While I appreciate your coding I also want/need help with learning the language so when I get to the office and find that code again I first want to talk about its syntax. This before modifying the code because otherwise I will not learn anything.

Burch
Burch Kealey
Sent by my Blackberry; 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hostetler" [mike at hostetlerhome.com]
Sent: 09/09/2008 07:39 AM EST
To: "Omaha Python Users Group" <omaha at python.org>
Subject: Re: [omaha] Spring for Python





I have some experience with SQLObject.? Spring isn't an ORM but (on
the Java side at least) it makes using ORM's easier.

What
Spring does do for databases and? Java (and Python, by looking at the
pages) is that it makes a common way to access the SQL layer.? In
Java, it is nice -- you configure your database, inject into a
SimpleJDBCTemplate object, and then you can use that anywhere you
like.? Want to change database platforms?? Just change the
config!

On the? ORM note, I'll send you one of my favorite
articles on the subject:
http://blogs.tedneward.com/2006/06/26/The+Vietnam+Of+Computer+Science.aspx


Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T wrote:
> Do you have any
experience with sqlAlchemy or Elixir?  If so, how does
>
springpython compare/contrast to existing python ORMs or is python
spring
> more than just database?  Sorry but I don't have any
spring knowledge.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> On Mon,
Sep 8, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Mike Hostetler
>
<mike at hostetlerhome.com>wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Maybe I'm the only Java guy in the group, so then
I'm the only one that
>> will find this interesting:
>>
>> http://springpython.webfactional.com/
>>
>> A Python version is
>> interesting to
say the least.  It should make it easier for DB
>> interaction.
 For Inversion of Control, it maybe seem silly in Python
>> but
I use Java Spring all the time in Jython and I find it wonderful.
>>
>>
_______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python
Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>>
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>>
http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> 
> 
>

> --
> Jeff Hinrichs
> Dundee Media &
Technology, Inc
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> 402.218.1473
> web: www.dundeemt.com
> blog: inre.dundeemt.com
>
_______________________________________________
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Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
>
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>
http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
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From bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu  Tue Sep  9 16:03:47 2008
From: bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu (Burch Kealey)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:03:47 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Sorry
Message-ID: <OF5415476D.1DE74B56-ON862574BF.004D403D@nebraska.edu>

I hit reply w/o thinking
Burch Kealey
Sent by my Blackberry; 


----- Original Message -----
From: Burch Kealey [bkealey at mail.unomaha.edu]
Sent: 09/09/2008 08:32 AM EST
To: "Omaha Python Users Group" <omaha at python.org>
Subject: [omaha] Re Python



Hi Mike

Thanks for taking the time for me last night. I think I found a piece of code last night that will help solve this problem. I just don't understand it so I will send it to you for discussion. Basically if we find the position in the string where Principal position is then we need to find the closest table tag w/o using Bsoup. A shortcut will be to not begin at the beginning but start at some fraction of the position where PP exists. I am thinking that we would take the integer that is the result of taking  the string location for PP and say divide by 7. 

While I appreciate your coding I also want/need help with learning the language so when I get to the office and find that code again I first want to talk about its syntax. This before modifying the code because otherwise I will not learn anything.

Burch
Burch Kealey
Sent by my Blackberry; 


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hostetler" [mike at hostetlerhome.com]
Sent: 09/09/2008 07:39 AM EST
To: "Omaha Python Users Group" <omaha at python.org>
Subject: Re: [omaha] Spring for Python





I have some experience with SQLObject.? Spring isn't an ORM but (on
the Java side at least) it makes using ORM's easier.

What
Spring does do for databases and? Java (and Python, by looking at the
pages) is that it makes a common way to access the SQL layer.? In
Java, it is nice -- you configure your database, inject into a
SimpleJDBCTemplate object, and then you can use that anywhere you
like.? Want to change database platforms?? Just change the
config!

On the? ORM note, I'll send you one of my favorite
articles on the subject:
http://blogs.tedneward.com/2006/06/26/The+Vietnam+Of+Computer+Science.aspx


Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T wrote:
> Do you have any
experience with sqlAlchemy or Elixir?  If so, how does
>
springpython compare/contrast to existing python ORMs or is python
spring
> more than just database?  Sorry but I don't have any
spring knowledge.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> On Mon,
Sep 8, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Mike Hostetler
>
<mike at hostetlerhome.com>wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Maybe I'm the only Java guy in the group, so then
I'm the only one that
>> will find this interesting:
>>
>> http://springpython.webfactional.com/
>>
>> A Python version is
>> interesting to
say the least.  It should make it easier for DB
>> interaction.
 For Inversion of Control, it maybe seem silly in Python
>> but
I use Java Spring all the time in Jython and I find it wonderful.
>>
>>
_______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python
Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>>
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>>
http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
> 
> 
>

> --
> Jeff Hinrichs
> Dundee Media &
Technology, Inc
> jeffh at dundeemt.com
> 402.218.1473
> web: www.dundeemt.com
> blog: inre.dundeemt.com
>
_______________________________________________
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Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
>
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>
http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
_______________________________________________
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Omaha at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org
_______________________________________________
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From choman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 22:18:08 2008
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:18:08 -0500
Subject: [omaha] python 2.6 RC1
Message-ID: <d74b4e610809151318t2cb95008w9b6f874712ec75c9@mail.gmail.com>

I am sure most people know this already, but for those who don't
python 2.6rc1 is in the wild.  sweeter than apple pie


In case your looking for change log info/features:
http://python.org/download/releases/2.6/

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From choman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 20 18:58:00 2008
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:58:00 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Getting Closer
Message-ID: <d74b4e610809200958h62fc9ec6s2fd1e530f4f5129@mail.gmail.com>

I am sure most already know, but I decided to make an announcement for
those that don't know.  The new releases of python are getting closer.

And on the note, enjoy.

Python 2.6rc2 and Python 3.0rc1 released

The second release candidate for Python
2.6<http://python.org/download/releases/2.6/>and first
release candidate for Python 3.0
<http://python.org/download/releases/3.0/>are now available.
Published: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:57 -0400


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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue Sep 30 04:10:53 2008
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:10:53 -0500
Subject: [omaha] ANN: Omaha Python Users Group Meeting -- Wed,
	October 1st @ 7pm
Message-ID: <5aaed53f0809291910o3de79569k67e2766df57fd8a8@mail.gmail.com>

The first Wednesday of the month is fast approaching.

Bring your questions, lightning talks and generally good natured humor to
the meeting.  It looks to be our best meeting ever!

Same time and place as always, details are on the site,
http://www.omahapython.org


Look forward to seeing you there.


-Jeff

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402.218.1473
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From choman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 15:54:53 2008
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:54:53 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 19, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1222768805.13147.omaha@python.org>
References: <mailman.17.1222768805.13147.omaha@python.org>
Message-ID: <d74b4e610809300654w6c57d64fle23effe4a46d0201@mail.gmail.com>

With regret, I am stuck in Colorado Springs.  I will not be able to attend.
On a personal note, the transporter device will not come soon enough.



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> Same time and place as always, details are on the site,
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>
>
> Look forward to seeing you there.
>
>
> -Jeff
>
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