[Numpy-discussion] setuptools/distutils merger & numpy.distutils

[David Cournapeau]

I will comment with more details on GH, but I think jraco's suggestion
makes a lot of sense. I would be willing to spend some time to merge
upstream (i.e. setuptools now :) ) some of our changes in numpy.distutils.

Assuming the numpy.distutils codebase has not changed much in the last 10
years, my sense is that a lot of the features that relied on monkey
patching can be merged upstream,  fortran support being one notable
exception.

I remember trying to put in mingw64 support in distutils upstream 10 years
ago, and the pace of communication was so slow that I gave up. But it was
technically straightforward.

David

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 8:13 PM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Preliminary conclusion: let's pin all packages to setuptools < 50.0 and
> wait for 6-9 months till the dust settles. Things may still change; the
> reception of PEP 632 [1] hasn't been a "great idea, let's just rip it out
> without a plan" one so far.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
> [1] https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-632-deprecate-distutils-module/5134
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:33 AM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I spent some time looking at the fallout of the setuptools 50.0 release.
>> There's quite a few small issues, those can/should all be worked around by
>> pinning setuptools to a lower version.
>>
>> The root cause and main longer-term issue is that numpy.distutils extends
>> and monkeypatches distutils, which mostly was fine because distutils moved
>> super slowly and had a decent QA process. Now with setuptools, any patch
>> goes into master and gets released to the whole wide world without any
>> testing. The summary of that and how to deal with it I posted on
>> https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/2372 for discussion.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
>>
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