[Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy
David Cournapeau
cournape at gmail.com
Sun Jul 6 05:02:08 EDT 2014
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:24 AM, Julian Taylor <jtaylor.debian at googlemail.com
> wrote:
> On 05.07.2014 19:11, David Cournapeau wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Julian Taylor
> > <jtaylor.debian at googlemail.com <mailto:jtaylor.debian at googlemail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > On 05.07.2014 18:40, David Cournapeau wrote:
> > > The efforts are on average less demanding than this discussion. We
> are
> > > talking about adding entries to a list in most cases...
> > >
> > > Also, while adding the optimization support for bento, I've
> > noticed that
> > > a lot of the related distutils code is broken, and does not work as
> > > expected on at least OS X + clang.
> >
> > It just spits out a lot of warnings but they are harmless.
> >
> >
> > Adding lots of warnings are not harmless as they render the compiler
> > warning system near useless (too many false alarms).
> >
>
> true but until now we haven't received a single complaint nor fixes so
> probably not many developers are actually using macs/clang to work on
> numpy C code.
> But I do agree its bad and I have fixing that on my todo list, I didn't
> get around to it yet.
>
Here is an attempt: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/4842
It uses a vile hack, but I did not see any other simple way. It fixes the
warnings on osx, once travis-ci confirms the tests pass ok on linux, I will
test it on msvc.
David
>
> > I will fix the checks for both distutils and bento (using the autoconf
> > macros setup, which should be more reliable than what we use for builtin
> > and __attribute__-related checks)
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > We could remove them by using with -Werror=attribute for the
> conftests
> > if it really bothers someone.
> > Or do you mean something else?
> >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com
> > <mailto:njs at pobox.com>
> > > <mailto:njs at pobox.com <mailto:njs at pobox.com>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 3:21 PM, David Cournapeau
> > <cournape at gmail.com <mailto:cournape at gmail.com>
> > > <mailto:cournape at gmail.com <mailto:cournape at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith
> > <njs at pobox.com <mailto:njs at pobox.com>
> > > <mailto:njs at pobox.com <mailto:njs at pobox.com>>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe bento will revive and take over the new python
> > packaging world!
> > > >> Maybe not. Maybe something else will. I don't see how our
> > support for
> > > >> it will really affect these outcomes in any way. And I
> > especially
> > > >> don't see why it's important to spend time *now* on keeping
> > bento
> > > >> working, just in case it becomes useful *later*.
> > > >
> > > > But it is working right now, so that argument is moot.
> > >
> > > My suggestion was that we should drop the rule that a patch
> has to
> > > keep bento working to be merged. We're talking about future
> > breakages
> > > and future effort. The fact that it's working now doesn't say
> > anything
> > > about whether it's worth continuing to invest time in it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Nathaniel J. Smith
> > > Postdoctoral researcher - Informatics - University of Edinburgh
> > > http://vorpus.org
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