From renato.pontefice at gmail.com Thu Mar 7 13:22:57 2019 From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (Renato Pontefice) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 19:22:57 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] can I use jus MoinMoin 2.0? Message-ID: Hi, I know that the subject is not good. I try to explain: I need to start to write the documentation for the group I work with. I thought to: - write the doc using a wiki - transfer the content of wiki to sphinx - create .pdf or web site with the same content But I saw today, that moon 2 can do anything by himself. Is it? Thank you Renato -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mehmasarja at gmail.com Thu Mar 7 13:37:47 2019 From: mehmasarja at gmail.com (Mehma Sarja) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 10:37:47 -0800 Subject: [moin-user] can I use jus MoinMoin 2.0? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B75A6F1-6A06-49F0-BADB-8E79FC32F0A4@gmail.com> Write the documentation in MoinMoin and maintain it there. Lots of benefits. Easy to update, convenient for users. Yudhvir Singh Sidhu > On Mar 7, 2019, at 10:22 AM, Renato Pontefice wrote: > > Hi, > I know that the subject is not good. > I try to explain: > I need to start to write the documentation for the group I work with. > I thought to: > - write the doc using a wiki > - transfer the content of wiki to sphinx > - create .pdf or web site with the same content > > But I saw today, that moon 2 can do anything by himself. > Is it? > > Thank you > Renato > _______________________________________________ > moin-user mailing list > moin-user at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/moin-user From renato.pontefice at gmail.com Fri Mar 8 17:17:19 2019 From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (Renato Pontefice) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 23:17:19 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] MoinMoin 2.0 Message-ID: Hi, I would start to use MoinMOin 2, because I think that is the way that it's build, is better and it?s feature are useful for my projects . Can someone show me a link for a MoinMoin 2 that could be useful to me? Thankyou Renato From renato.pontefice at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 07:08:37 2019 From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (Renato Pontefice) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:08:37 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] moin 1.x, or better 2made the same work of sphinx + readthedoc? Message-ID: Renato Pontefice 12:05 (0 minuti fa) a moin-user Hi, I'm quite confused but I think I've understand. I mean: I've understand that i can: - write - store - to mantain the documentation in both method: or by moinmoin or by writing in python, store and keep by readthedoc Is it? I mean: moinmoin can do both meanwhile I need two product in the other case. quite right? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From renato.pontefice at gmail.com Mon Mar 11 07:35:50 2019 From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (Renato Pontefice) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:35:50 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] sorry if I'send it twice Message-ID: Hi, I'm quite confused but I think I've understand. I mean: I've understand that i can: - write - store - to mantain the documentation in both method: or by moinmoin or by writing in python, store and keep by readthedoc Is it? I mean: moinmoin can do both meanwhile I need two product in the other case. quite right? Thank you Renato -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at boddie.org.uk Mon Mar 11 11:27:51 2019 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:27:51 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] can I use jus MoinMoin 2.0? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <12035600.TovHuyMZe4@jeremy> On Thursday 7. March 2019 19.22.57 Renato Pontefice wrote: > Hi, > I know that the subject is not good. > I try to explain: > I need to start to write the documentation for the group I work with. > I thought to: > - write the doc using a wiki > - transfer the content of wiki to sphinx > - create .pdf or web site with the same content > > But I saw today, that moon 2 can do anything by himself. > Is it? As was already noted, you can use Moin 1.x or 2.0 to maintain documentation for publishing on the Web: you just create and edit pages and they will already be available on the Web as HTML documents. For PDF, there is an export "action" that converts pages to PDF, although I think that printing to PDF in the browser probably does the job better. As I understand it, Sphinx is a tool that allows you to maintain a collection of documents that are then converted to other formats for publishing. So, you run Sphinx on some files and it will produce some HTML documents for serving via a normal Web server. (There may also be some "dynamic" functionality with Sphinx such as searching, and let us not forget Sphinx's huge JavaScript payloads and rather badly implemented sidebar.) Whether you (or your group) prefer Moin or Sphinx probably depends on a few things. Moin does support multiple document formats (Moin wiki syntax and reStructuredText, for example), whereas Sphinx appears to favour reStructuredText. So if you prefer Moin syntax then I doubt that Sphinx would be a good choice. Meanwhile, Sphinx probably supports output as PDF directly, but I wonder whether it too is as good as what your browser would generate. Moin is also a system that you have to deploy to dynamically serve up its pages whereas Sphinx, again as far as I know, favours static publishing. You can export Moin sites to static content using the "export dump" functionality, but it has its drawbacks. I had to change it to generate reasonable links and then put a script in front of the result, which almost defeats the point of generating static pages. (Almost, because the script is vastly simpler than deploying Moin and worrying about it.) You could edit Moin pages in the filesystem and then generate "export dumps" if you really wanted to, with Moin never being used on the Web. My approach has been to write some tools for converting Moin format documents directly to HTML, and I hope to make these tools available soon. I hope this helps to explain things. Paul From renato.pontefice at gmail.com Tue Mar 12 08:04:16 2019 From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (Renato Pontefice) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 13:04:16 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] one step ahead: can I use repository to store file? Message-ID: Hi, I made one step ahead (I think) in my project of build a platform to use for writing the doc. I would act in this way: - install moinmoin (1.9.x it's good enought) use all the feature that this software offer write documentation in Restructuredtext export all the doc - import it on Read the Docs platorm - export doc in every format readthedoc offer. And this is good for me. I've just a question: readthedoc want the documentation on a repository. Can I use it by default? I mean without save in local the entire tree and upload the file on a repository. TIA Renato -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at sumpfralle.de Tue Mar 12 22:26:16 2019 From: lists at sumpfralle.de (Lars Kruse) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 03:26:16 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] one step ahead: can I use repository to store file? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190313032616.1a3160b9@erker.lan> Hello Renato, Am Tue, 12 Mar 2019 13:04:16 +0100 schrieb Renato Pontefice : > I've just a question: > readthedoc want the documentation on a repository. > > Can I use it by default? > I mean without save in local the entire tree and upload the file on a > repository. moinmoin 1.9 only supports a file-based storage. Thus you would need to export its content into a repository periodically (or triggered by changes). In case you feel comfortable writing a bit of shell or python scripts, you will be able to do so. But I could imagine, that moinmoin is not the perfect fit for your goals: * restructured text: it is not moinmoin's primary markup language * repository storage: needs to be added manually via scripts Maybe there are other wiki engines (or a completely different kind of tool) out there, that are closer to your specific set of requirements. "gitit" comes to my mind, but I never used it in the way you intend. Anyway: enjoy your ride! Cheers, Lars From renato.pontefice at gmail.com Tue Mar 19 10:59:11 2019 From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (Renato Pontefice) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 15:59:11 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] Is it possible to install moinmoin 2 with python 3.6..5 Message-ID: Hi, I?ve a iMac with latest o.s. And there is install python 3.6.5 When I try to install moinmoin2 (dowloaded from GITHUB) I receive an error of virtual environment. Because I?m not a useful user of python I would understand if the prob is on the version of python or something else TIA Renato From pcolsen at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 16:15:11 2019 From: pcolsen at gmail.com (Peter Olsen) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 20:15:11 +0000 Subject: [moin-user] When is logging in not loggin in? Message-ID: Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm trying to change some of the user preference items of my stand-alone, single-user MoinMoin Wiki. I'm sure I'm signing in correctly because I am taken to my homepage with no complaint about either username or password and I get a link saying "logout". But when I hit the "Settings" link on my homepage I get the error "You must login to use this action: userprefs." When I login again from that page it again appears to work correctly, but when I try to use "Settings" again, I get sent right back to the "You must login...." Wash, rinse, repeat, etc. What am I doing wrong -- Peter Olsen olsen at sigmaxi.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at sumpfralle.de Fri Mar 22 17:42:05 2019 From: lists at sumpfralle.de (Lars Kruse) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:42:05 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] When is logging in not loggin in? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190322224205.5979d045@erker.lan> Hello Peter, Am Fri, 22 Mar 2019 20:15:11 +0000 schrieb Peter Olsen : > But when I hit the "Settings" link on my homepage I get the error "You must > login to use this action: userprefs." just in order to exclude external influences: did you try this in another browser, too? (or maybe just use the "privacy mode" of your browser) If that fails, too: did you take a look at the webserver log? Cheers, Lars From lists at sumpfralle.de Fri Mar 22 17:50:32 2019 From: lists at sumpfralle.de (Lars Kruse) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2019 22:50:32 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] Is it possible to install moinmoin 2 with python 3.6..5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190322225032.6e4d8758@erker.lan> Hello Renato, Am Tue, 19 Mar 2019 15:59:11 +0100 schrieb Renato Pontefice : > I?ve a iMac with latest o.s. > And there is install python 3.6.5 > When I try to install moinmoin2 (dowloaded from GITHUB) I receive an error of virtual environment. > > Because I?m not a useful user of python I would understand if the prob is on > the version of python or something else I am not sure, how moinmoin 2.0 progressed recently, but when I did setup a wiki around two years ago, I vaguely remember to have struggled quite a bit. (in general I feel quite comfortable with Python development tools) Thus if your goal is to learn a lot along your way towards a working moinmoin 2.0 installation, then please just go ahead. Otherwise you may want to pick a different road. Cheers, Lars PS: the very small moin 2.0 installation I mentioned above is working just fine From renato.pontefice at gmail.com Wed Mar 27 05:41:25 2019 From: renato.pontefice at gmail.com (Renato Pontefice) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 10:41:25 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] is it possible to import a repository? Message-ID: Hi, I would start to make documentation using moinmoin wiki. I've already made 1 manual, using gitbook.com the book are made in markdown and are stored on a repository. I'm wondering if is it possible to import it in moinmoin. I mean: can I set moinmoin to find the file on a repository, instead of a local file? TIA Renato -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So, if it?s a problem to do in sandbox I can use in both my pc (one at work, one at home) TIA Renato From lists at sumpfralle.de Fri Mar 29 20:22:05 2019 From: lists at sumpfralle.de (Lars Kruse) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2019 01:22:05 +0100 Subject: [moin-user] Moinmoin SandBox: how to use rat markup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190330012205.59d3fe66@erker.lan> Hello Renato, Am Fri, 29 Mar 2019 17:27:56 +0100 schrieb Renato Pontefice : > As you probably understand I?m trying moinmoin. > I?m using MoinMoin 1.9.10 and until 2.0 will be released I will use the SandBox. > I would use RST markup and a good editor are you looking for an example for using rst syntax in a moin wiki? Maybe the content of this page is helpful for you? https://moinmo.in/HelpOnParsers/ReStructuredText/RstPrimer?action=raw Cheers, Lars