From rb.proj at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 03:58:31 2009
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:58:31 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Is it possible to install current stable version on
 Bluehost hosting services?
In-Reply-To: <720dc91f0911301118r48db06ew2a7674106c645b9f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <720dc91f0911301118r48db06ew2a7674106c645b9f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <hf2lrn$p0h$1@ger.gmane.org>

Mauricio Hernandez Z. schrieb:
> Bluehost does provide SSH access and Python.
> 
> Any successful installation story and howto?
> 
> Regards,
> 

Hi Mauricio,

Do they provide also mod_wsgi?

A installation by ssh should be basically no problem.


cheers
Reimar



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From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Dec  1 12:56:09 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:56:09 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Is it possible to install current stable version	on
	Bluehost hosting services?
In-Reply-To: <hf2lrn$p0h$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <720dc91f0911301118r48db06ew2a7674106c645b9f@mail.gmail.com>
	<hf2lrn$p0h$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1259690169.6514.38.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>


> > Bluehost does provide SSH access and Python.
> > Any successful installation story and howto?

> Do they provide also mod_wsgi?

I doubt that someone offers mod_wsgi for 7 USD/m.
If you're "lucky", you get a working python for cgi.

Mauricio, do you like to tell what that wiki will be about?





From mhz.chile at gmail.com  Tue Dec  1 20:46:15 2009
From: mhz.chile at gmail.com (mhz)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 22:46:15 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Is it possible to install current stable version on
	Bluehost hosting services?
In-Reply-To: <1259690169.6514.38.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
References: <720dc91f0911301118r48db06ew2a7674106c645b9f@mail.gmail.com>
	<hf2lrn$p0h$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<1259690169.6514.38.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <720dc91f0912011746g24cce145oe7b70fb4db5fb686@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I'll ask Bluehost about it, right away.

Hey, Thomas!

I want to provide a Trikke Knowledge Base, the "Trikkepedia". An
instance where Trikke riders and dealers can wiki about Riding tips,
Riding techniques, Mechanics, Workouts, etc.

And if possible to run a Moin instance, I'd love to get back my hands
onto wiki loving, and so I'd also take advantage of it and would like
to run TrikkeChile.com on Moin instead of current wordpress.

Cordialmente,

Mauricio Hern?ndez Z.
+569 77785043



On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> > Bluehost does provide SSH access and Python.
>> > Any successful installation story and howto?
>
>> Do they provide also mod_wsgi?
>
> I doubt that someone offers mod_wsgi for 7 USD/m.
> If you're "lucky", you get a working python for cgi.
>
> Mauricio, do you like to tell what that wiki will be about?
>
>
>
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From john.perry at usm.edu  Tue Dec  1 20:58:59 2009
From: john.perry at usm.edu (John Perry)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 19:58:59 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] why /var/www ?!?
Message-ID: <200912011958.59426.john.perry@usm.edu>

Hi,

I set up MoinMoin successfully today. I thought I followed the directions, but 
I kept encountering a problem. The CSS did not seem to load, and Apache kept 
reporting the error,

    [Tue Dec 01 19:48:28 2009] [error] [client 131.95.120.109] File does not
    exist: /var/www/home, referer:
    http://[deleted]/MyStartingPage

Once I added a symbolic link /var/www/home -> /home, the error stopped 
appearing and the CSS loaded fine.

I guess I must have set something up wrong. Weirdly, adding an Alias directive 
in Apache didn't fix the problem, either. Does anyone have any idea why this 
happened?

regards
john perry
-- 
John Perry, PhD
University of Southern Mississippi
Assistant Professor, Department of Mathematics
http://www.math.usm.edu/perry/
john.perry at usm.edu
601-266-4293

endless loop: See endless loop.
(AmigaDOS 3.1 manual, Glossary, pg. 4)



From rb.proj at gmail.com  Wed Dec  2 08:14:04 2009
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:14:04 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] why /var/www ?!?
In-Reply-To: <200912011958.59426.john.perry@usm.edu>
References: <200912011958.59426.john.perry@usm.edu>
Message-ID: <hf5p6s$3jo$1@ger.gmane.org>

Hi John,

can you please add more details:
Which moin version is it?
>From where is it?
How do you have installed?
Which directions do you have followed?

cheers
Reimar

John Perry schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I set up MoinMoin successfully today. I thought I followed the directions, but 
> I kept encountering a problem. The CSS did not seem to load, and Apache kept 
> reporting the error,
> 
>     [Tue Dec 01 19:48:28 2009] [error] [client 131.95.120.109] File does not
>     exist: /var/www/home, referer:
>     http://[deleted]/MyStartingPage
> 
> Once I added a symbolic link /var/www/home -> /home, the error stopped 
> appearing and the CSS loaded fine.
> 
> I guess I must have set something up wrong. Weirdly, adding an Alias directive 
> in Apache didn't fix the problem, either. Does anyone have any idea why this 
> happened?
> 
> regards
> john perry




From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Dec  2 10:33:05 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:33:05 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] why /var/www ?!?
In-Reply-To: <200912011958.59426.john.perry@usm.edu>
References: <200912011958.59426.john.perry@usm.edu>
Message-ID: <1259767985.598.8.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

Hi John,

> I set up MoinMoin successfully today. I thought I followed the directions, but 
> I kept encountering a problem. The CSS did not seem to load,

That is usually because the Alias for /moin_static185 (e.g.) is missing
or is not working.

> and Apache kept reporting the error,
> 
>     [Tue Dec 01 19:48:28 2009] [error] [client 131.95.120.109] File does not
>     exist: /var/www/home, referer:
>     http://[deleted]/MyStartingPage

moin does not access /var/www/home on its own. Maybe you have
misconfigured something in apache, search for "home" there.

> Once I added a symbolic link /var/www/home -> /home, the error stopped 
> appearing and the CSS loaded fine.

You shouldn't link all your home directories to be accessible via the
webserver, because they are linked to be below documentroot.

That could be a major security/privacy issue.

> I guess I must have set something up wrong. Weirdly, adding an Alias directive 
> in Apache didn't fix the problem, either.

Maybe you added it at the wrong place? As Reimar already noted: we need
more details and your configs.

Regards,

Thomas





From john.perry at usm.edu  Wed Dec  2 15:14:15 2009
From: john.perry at usm.edu (John Perry)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:14:15 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] why /var/www ?!?
Message-ID: <200912021414.15715.john.perry@usm.edu>

> You shouldn't link all your home directories to be accessible via the
> webserver, because they are linked to be below documentroot.

Ooooooops. I happened to mention my difficulties with one of my 
security-conscious colleagues, and he promptly went and read everything on 
the machine, just to prove your point.

Okay, removed that symlink.

> > I set up MoinMoin successfully today. I thought I followed the directions,
> > but
> > I kept encountering a problem. The CSS did not seem to load, 
> 
> That is usually because the Alias for /moin_static185 (e.g.) is missing
> or is not working.

This was in fact my problem. I didn't understand your hint until I looked 
carefully at both the Apache setup file and the wikiconfig.py. In case anyone 
else Googles across this, I'll explain my confusion, along with what I did to 
fix it.

The wikiconfig.py requires the assignment of three directories,

    data_dir
    data_underlay_dir
    url_prefix

The defaults for the first two ('./data' and './underlay') don't work, at 
least not on my system. When it fails, a helpful error message recommends 
giving the absolute pathname, e.g., /home/luser/read/the/directions . (That's 
not the actual help text I saw, in case anyone's wondering. It's just how I 
felt. ;-))

I figured the third one (url_prefix) would need an absolute path, too, and I 
seem to have misread at least one of the many web pages online that discuss 
the setup & configuration of this file. So url_prefix had the absolute path 
to the static files, when it wants a *relative* path.

So that was the problem. I got it to work by changing url_prefix 
to '/moin_static160'. Likewise Apache's configuration *must* have the alias 
directive

    Alias /moin_static160/ /absolute/path/to/moin_static160/

I should have caught this sooner, but I didn't understand the hint in 
wikiconfig.py on THE LINE ABOVE THAT VERY ASSIGNMENT:

    # For CGI, it should match your Apache Alias setting.

I understand what it's saying now, but that was weird.

If someone has better advice, I'm open to it. For reference, I'm running Moin 
1.90 on Ubuntu 8.04.3.

regards
john perry
-- 
John Perry, PhD
University of Southern Mississippi
Assistant Professor, Department of Mathematics
http://www.math.usm.edu/perry/
john.perry at usm.edu
601-266-4293

endless loop: See endless loop.
(AmigaDOS 3.1 manual, Glossary, pg. 4)



From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Dec  3 03:15:27 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:15:27 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] why /var/www ?!?
In-Reply-To: <200912021414.15715.john.perry@usm.edu>
References: <200912021414.15715.john.perry@usm.edu>
Message-ID: <1259828127.3378.36.camel@x300>

> Ooooooops.

X)

> The wikiconfig.py requires the assignment of three directories,
> 
>     data_dir
>     data_underlay_dir
>     url_prefix

Ehrm, not quite. *_dir are directories in the filesystem (and yes, using
an absolute path is a good idea, because relative pathes are ...
relative :).

BUT: url_prefix (or url_prefix_static as it is called in later moins) is
a URL, not a filesystem directory. It is the url moin uses to generate
static file URLs in the html it emits. The clientside browser then uses
these URLs to fetch css, images, javascript etc.

Thus, for moin < 1.9.0, you need to configure your web server to serve
those static files when that url_prefix URL is accessed, that's what
this Alias is for.

In moin >= 1.9.0 we serve the static files by a server functionality
built into moin, so one does not NEED the apache Alias any more. If you
have moin as a long running process and you have sane clientside
browsers (doing caching), it gives quite good performance.
Of course if you run moin as cgi (sloooow) or if you want to tweak the
last microsecond, you MAY still use apache to serve the static files
(moin only serves requests it GETS, if Apache catches it first, Apache
will serve it).

>     Alias /moin_static160/ /absolute/path/to/moin_static160/

Left side is the url, right side is the file system path.

> If someone has better advice, I'm open to it. For reference, I'm running Moin 
> 1.90 on Ubuntu 8.04.3.

The alias rather looks like you are running moin 1.6.0 (which is pretty
outdated). You can check this on page SystemInfo in your wiki.

We'll likely release moin 1.8.6 and 1.9.0 soon, btw. :)





From rb.proj at gmail.com  Thu Dec  3 03:34:31 2009
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:34:31 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] why /var/www ?!?
In-Reply-To: <1259828127.3378.36.camel@x300>
References: <200912021414.15715.john.perry@usm.edu>
	<1259828127.3378.36.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <hf7t6n$44v$1@ger.gmane.org>

Thomas Waldmann schrieb:
>> Ooooooops.
> 
> X)
> 
>> The wikiconfig.py requires the assignment of three directories,
>>
>>     data_dir
>>     data_underlay_dir
>>     url_prefix
> 
> Ehrm, not quite. *_dir are directories in the filesystem (and yes, using
> an absolute path is a good idea, because relative pathes are ...
> relative :).
> 
> BUT: url_prefix (or url_prefix_static as it is called in later moins) is
> a URL, not a filesystem directory. It is the url moin uses to generate
> static file URLs in the html it emits. The clientside browser then uses
> these URLs to fetch css, images, javascript etc.
> 
> Thus, for moin < 1.9.0, you need to configure your web server to serve
> those static files when that url_prefix URL is accessed, that's what
> this Alias is for.
> 
> In moin >= 1.9.0 we serve the static files by a server functionality
> built into moin, so one does not NEED the apache Alias any more. If you
> have moin as a long running process and you have sane clientside
> browsers (doing caching), it gives quite good performance.
> Of course if you run moin as cgi (sloooow) or if you want to tweak the
> last microsecond, you MAY still use apache to serve the static files
> (moin only serves requests it GETS, if Apache catches it first, Apache
> will serve it).
> 
>>     Alias /moin_static160/ /absolute/path/to/moin_static160/
> 
> Left side is the url, right side is the file system path.
> 
>> If someone has better advice, I'm open to it. For reference, I'm running Moin 
>> 1.90 on Ubuntu 8.04.3.
> 
> The alias rather looks like you are running moin 1.6.0 (which is pretty
> outdated). You can check this on page SystemInfo in your wiki.

or if you have had to configure this alias you may have it set too in
your wikiconfig.py (url_prefix_static).

If your previous wiki was running version 1.6, do you have run the
migration script for your data dir and updated your configuration?

If it is still 1.6 you should read http://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes
and upgrade soon to a recent version.

cheers

Reimar




From mike.freeman.3832 at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 14:36:08 2009
From: mike.freeman.3832 at gmail.com (Michael Freeman)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:36:08 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin wiki hosting (was Re: Is it possible to
	install current stable version on Bluehost hosting services?)
Message-ID: <be8917ed0912051136j6b218c35jf568526e4a7f47b4@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:46 PM, mhz <mhz.chile at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I'll ask Bluehost about it, right away.
>
> I want to provide a Trikke Knowledge Base, the "Trikkepedia". An
> instance where Trikke riders and dealers can wiki about Riding tips,
> Riding techniques, Mechanics, Workouts, etc.

Check out: SabMagFaq.org

> And if possible to run a Moin instance, I'd love to get back my hands
> onto wiki loving, and so I'd also take advantage of it and would like
> to run TrikkeChile.com on Moin instead of current wordpress.

I run SabMagFAQ on HCoop.  Currently they charge $7/month for hosting.
 MoinMoin is installed and maintained by the admins.  You just have to
set up your local configuration.

I registered the domain name through gandi.net for $17.94 per year.

There are links to HCoop and gandi.net in the footer of the SabMagFAQ wiki.



-- 
Michael J. Freeman
Reserve, LA



From rb.proj at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 16:23:28 2009
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:23:28 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.8.6 released
Message-ID: <hfej0g$6h1$1@ger.gmane.org>

See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive and the
change log.

BTW, we still need much more people helping with cleaning up on
master19.moinmo.in.

So, especially if you speak some non-english language, you can help!

See http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation for details.




From rb.proj at gmail.com  Sat Dec  5 19:00:17 2009
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:00:17 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin-1.9.0 released
Message-ID: <hfes6h$tnu$1@ger.gmane.org>

See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive and the
change log.

BTW, we still need much more people helping with cleaning up on
master19.moinmo.in.

So, especially if you speak some non-english language, you can help!

See http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation for details.




From zoom.quiet at gmail.com  Sun Dec  6 04:15:30 2009
From: zoom.quiet at gmail.com (Zoom.Quiet)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 17:15:30 +0800
Subject: [Moin-user] moin-1.9.0 released
In-Reply-To: <hfes6h$tnu$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <hfes6h$tnu$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <9dad9f0a0912060115y135f4095l5a6fa72d5cdbefd6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 08:00, R.Bauer <rb.proj at gmail.com> wrote:
> See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive and the
> change log.
>
that great news!
i'm join in MoinMoin 1.9.* Chinese translating...
MoinI18n/zh - 1.9 Master Wiki
http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/zh

SystemPagesInSimplifiedChineseGroup - 1.9 Master Wiki
http://master19.moinmo.in/SystemPagesInSimplifiedChineseGroup

> BTW, we still need much more people helping with cleaning up on
> master19.moinmo.in.
>
> So, especially if you speak some non-english language, you can help!
>
> See http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation for details.
>
>
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From marcel at frightanic.com  Sun Dec  6 07:32:19 2009
From: marcel at frightanic.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marcel_St=F6r?=)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:32:19 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Installing MoinMoin on a typical web host
Message-ID: <2964CE47-974B-44E2-B9DC-7D2031C580DE@frightanic.com>

For someone coming from the PHP-corner going through the install docs  
at http://master19.moinmo.in/InstallDocs/ can be a somewhat  
intimidating experience. At least if the "1 minute MoinMoin install"  
doesn't suit you.

For me it isn't a matter of lack-of-know-how, but rather a matter of  
lack-of-latitude.

I would like use MoinMoin on the hosting account with my ISP i.e. I  
don't run my own server. Therefore, I don't have admin rights, I can't  
control Apache by myself and I can't use a shell. What I can do/use:  
FTP...I can also set up virtual directories (activating CGI and  
FastCGI for them) and I can configure mod_rewrite rules.

Looking at Python as "just another scripting language" (I assume for  
those who love it it's a bit more ;-)) I assume that it should be  
possible to run MoinMoin in such a confined environment. I simply  
haven't found related hints the docs or the FAQ.

Regards,
Marcel

-- 
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Couchsurfing: http://www.couchsurfing.com/people/marcelstoer
Skype: marcelstoer




From lists at iDIAcomputing.com  Sun Dec  6 13:37:02 2009
From: lists at iDIAcomputing.com (George Dinwiddie)
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:37:02 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Installing MoinMoin on a typical web host
In-Reply-To: <2964CE47-974B-44E2-B9DC-7D2031C580DE@frightanic.com>
References: <2964CE47-974B-44E2-B9DC-7D2031C580DE@frightanic.com>
Message-ID: <4B1BF9CE.8030904@iDIAcomputing.com>

Marcel,

I've not moved to 1.9 (in fact, I'm still running 1.8.4), but I do have 
it running on a shared server (DreamHost).

When I upgraded to 1.8.4, I installed everything under one directory 
(moin-1.8.4-installed) to make things easier to upgrade in the future. 
I put the bin, lib, & share directories under that, as well as my 
wikifarm directory which contains the configs & contents for the wikis 
themselves.

I don't have access to the apache config, either, but I use .htaccess to 
rewrite:

ReWriteEngine on
ReWriteRule ^moin(/.*)? _moin.cgi$1

Does that help?

  - George

Marcel St?r wrote:
> For someone coming from the PHP-corner going through the install docs  
> at http://master19.moinmo.in/InstallDocs/ can be a somewhat  
> intimidating experience. At least if the "1 minute MoinMoin install"  
> doesn't suit you.
> 
> For me it isn't a matter of lack-of-know-how, but rather a matter of  
> lack-of-latitude.
> 
> I would like use MoinMoin on the hosting account with my ISP i.e. I  
> don't run my own server. Therefore, I don't have admin rights, I can't  
> control Apache by myself and I can't use a shell. What I can do/use:  
> FTP...I can also set up virtual directories (activating CGI and  
> FastCGI for them) and I can configure mod_rewrite rules.
> 
> Looking at Python as "just another scripting language" (I assume for  
> those who love it it's a bit more ;-)) I assume that it should be  
> possible to run MoinMoin in such a confined environment. I simply  
> haven't found related hints the docs or the FAQ.
> 
> Regards,
> Marcel
> 

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From tw-public at gmx.de  Sun Dec  6 14:31:53 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:31:53 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Installing MoinMoin on a typical web host
In-Reply-To: <2964CE47-974B-44E2-B9DC-7D2031C580DE@frightanic.com>
References: <2964CE47-974B-44E2-B9DC-7D2031C580DE@frightanic.com>
Message-ID: <1260127913.25816.23.camel@x300>

On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 13:32 +0100, Marcel St?r wrote:
> For someone coming from the PHP-corner going through the install docs  
> at http://master19.moinmo.in/InstallDocs/ can be a somewhat  
> intimidating experience. At least if the "1 minute MoinMoin install"  
> doesn't suit you.

Well, php is easy because your web hoster installed mod_php and
configured everything for you, so you can just drop in your php files
and it works.

You could have a similar experience with mod_wsgi and WSGI python apps
(moin is one), but only if your hoster really cares about Python/WSGI
and installs/configures that for you.

The bad news is that most hosters don't, but let you alone with slow cgi
or rather complicated fastcgi.

> I would like use MoinMoin on the hosting account with my ISP i.e. I  
> don't run my own server. Therefore, I don't have admin rights, I can't  
> control Apache by myself and I can't use a shell.

That's not quite the most comfortable environment to install moin into.

I am not saying that it is impossible, but it is somehow like painting
the living room through the keyhole. The best approach to make that not
a complete pain is maybe to replicate your hoster's setup locally, make
it work locally and then, after you have all working, ftp everything to
the other side.

> FTP...I can also set up virtual directories (activating CGI and  
> FastCGI for them) and I can configure mod_rewrite rules.

For both cgi and fastcgi, with moin 1.9, you'll have to use some (e.g.
"flup") middleware to convert that to wsgi. Please read flup's and
apache's docs about that (and have a look into wiki/server/ directory in
your moin download). As soon as you manage to run any (test) wsgi app on
your host, you are ready for moin and for our docs.

> Looking at Python as "just another scripting language" (I assume for  
> those who love it it's a bit more ;-)) I assume that it should be  
> possible to run MoinMoin in such a confined environment. I simply  
> haven't found related hints the docs or the FAQ.

We only document running moin as a wsgi app, because wsgi is our
interface to the outer world.

We won't document how you have to use apache or flup (or any other web
server or middleware needed), because there is better docs for that
written by other people.

BTW, moin 1.8.x still offers a direct (fast)cgi interface, but the
future (1.9 and beyond) will be wsgi, for good reasons. :)





From marcel at frightanic.com  Sun Dec  6 14:51:23 2009
From: marcel at frightanic.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marcel_St=F6r?=)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:51:23 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Installing MoinMoin on a typical web host
In-Reply-To: <1260127913.25816.23.camel@x300>
References: <2964CE47-974B-44E2-B9DC-7D2031C580DE@frightanic.com>
	<1260127913.25816.23.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <79C246EB-46E1-450E-9E11-E109BEDB15FE@frightanic.com>


On 06.12.2009, at 20:31, Thomas Waldmann wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 13:32 +0100, Marcel St?r wrote:
>> For someone coming from the PHP-corner going through the install docs
>> at http://master19.moinmo.in/InstallDocs/ can be a somewhat
>> intimidating experience. At least if the "1 minute MoinMoin install"
>> doesn't suit you.
>
> Well, php is easy because your web hoster installed mod_php and
> configured everything for you, so you can just drop in your php files
> and it works.
>
> You could have a similar experience with mod_wsgi and WSGI python apps
> (moin is one), but only if your hoster really cares about Python/WSGI
> and installs/configures that for you.
>
> The bad news is that most hosters don't, but let you alone with slow  
> cgi
> or rather complicated fastcgi.
>
>> I would like use MoinMoin on the hosting account with my ISP i.e. I
>> don't run my own server. Therefore, I don't have admin rights, I  
>> can't
>> control Apache by myself and I can't use a shell.
>
> That's not quite the most comfortable environment to install moin  
> into.
>
> I am not saying that it is impossible, but it is somehow like painting
> the living room through the keyhole. The best approach to make that  
> not
> a complete pain is maybe to replicate your hoster's setup locally,  
> make
> it work locally and then, after you have all working, ftp everything  
> to
> the other side.
>
>> FTP...I can also set up virtual directories (activating CGI and
>> FastCGI for them) and I can configure mod_rewrite rules.
>
> For both cgi and fastcgi, with moin 1.9, you'll have to use some (e.g.
> "flup") middleware to convert that to wsgi. Please read flup's and
> apache's docs about that (and have a look into wiki/server/  
> directory in
> your moin download). As soon as you manage to run any (test) wsgi  
> app on
> your host, you are ready for moin and for our docs.
>
>> Looking at Python as "just another scripting language" (I assume for
>> those who love it it's a bit more ;-)) I assume that it should be
>> possible to run MoinMoin in such a confined environment. I simply
>> haven't found related hints the docs or the FAQ.
>
> We only document running moin as a wsgi app, because wsgi is our
> interface to the outer world.
>
> We won't document how you have to use apache or flup (or any other web
> server or middleware needed), because there is better docs for that
> written by other people.
>
> BTW, moin 1.8.x still offers a direct (fast)cgi interface, but the
> future (1.9 and beyond) will be wsgi, for good reasons. :)


Ok, what I understood or rather "interpreted" going through the  
various installation documents:
- if I can access and run myhost//wiki/server/test.wsgi once the  
archive is on the server I know that the host supports wsgi
- then I'd have to follow http://moinmo.in/HowTo/Run%20Moin%20using%20the%20download%20archive 
  because it's this document that describes the setup without setup.py

Correct?

Regards,
Marcel

-- 
Marcel St?r, http://www.frightanic.com
Couchsurfing: http://www.couchsurfing.com/people/marcelstoer
Skype: marcelstoer




From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Dec  7 06:53:45 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:53:45 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Installing MoinMoin on a typical web host
In-Reply-To: <79C246EB-46E1-450E-9E11-E109BEDB15FE@frightanic.com>
References: <2964CE47-974B-44E2-B9DC-7D2031C580DE@frightanic.com>
	<1260127913.25816.23.camel@x300>
	<79C246EB-46E1-450E-9E11-E109BEDB15FE@frightanic.com>
Message-ID: <1260186825.881.2.camel@x300>

> > The bad news is that most hosters don't, but let you alone with slow  
> > cgi or rather complicated fastcgi.

!!!

> Ok, what I understood or rather "interpreted" going through the  
> various installation documents:
> - if I can access and run myhost//wiki/server/test.wsgi once the  
> archive is on the server I know that the host supports wsgi

Yes. Depends on the hosters configuration, though.

> - then I'd have to follow http://moinmo.in/HowTo/Run%20Moin%20using%20the%20download%20archive 
>   because it's this document that describes the setup without setup.py

That was written for 1.8, but is rather generic, so it still applies for
1.9 also.





From roger.bos at rothschild.com  Mon Dec  7 16:33:12 2009
From: roger.bos at rothschild.com (Bos, Roger)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:33:12 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] How to link to wiki when using DNS entry
Message-ID: <D8C95B444AD6EE4AAD638D818A9CFD340370E231@RINNYCSE000.rth.ad.rothschild.com>

Hello,

I run moin 1.8.5 called "testwiki" on our intranet on a server called
rins0050.  So the following address takes me to the wiki:

http://rins0050/testwiki

To make matters easier for users, I had our IT dept create a DNS entry
called "pad" that takes the user to rins0050.  This for fine for my web
pages, but does work for my testwiki.  The following link doesn't work:

http://pad/testtwiki

Anyone have any ideas on how I can get it to work?

Thanks,

Roger

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From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Dec  8 02:53:52 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:53:52 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] How to link to wiki when using DNS entry
In-Reply-To: <D8C95B444AD6EE4AAD638D818A9CFD340370E231@RINNYCSE000.rth.ad.rothschild.com>
References: <D8C95B444AD6EE4AAD638D818A9CFD340370E231@RINNYCSE000.rth.ad.rothschild.com>
Message-ID: <1260258832.18990.2.camel@x300>


> I run moin 1.8.5 called "testwiki" on our intranet on a server called
> rins0050.  So the following address takes me to the wiki:
> 
> http://rins0050/testwiki
> 
> To make matters easier for users, I had our IT dept create a DNS entry
> called "pad" that takes the user to rins0050.  This for fine for my
> web pages, but does work for my testwiki.  The following link doesn't
> work:
> 
> http://pad/testtwiki
> 
> Anyone have any ideas on how I can get it to work?

Well, I guess it is not the typo (double-t in the middle of testwiki)
that causes the fault, right?

If it is not that and you are running a farm configuration, you maybe
have to fix the farmconfig.py, so it also (or only) matches the new URL.





From fpiat at klabs.be  Tue Dec  8 03:10:33 2009
From: fpiat at klabs.be (Frank Lin PIAT)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:10:33 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] wikis URLs in farmconfig (moin 1.9.0)
Message-ID: <1260259833.3974.756.camel@solid.paris.klabs.be>

Hello,

It seems there's a discrepancy in farmconfig.py[1] for moinmoin-1.9.0 :

The documentation (comments) mention that 
> #  * the right part does NOT include "http://" nor "https://" at
>      the beginning

But a few line below, the example is:
>    #("wiki1", r"^http://wiki1\.example\.org/.*$"),

BTW, I suggest that the example is changed to:
>    #("wiki1", r"^https?://wiki2\.example\.org/.*$"),

Franklin


[1] http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/f992fed6e94a/wiki/config/wikifarm/farmconfig.py
[2] http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.8/file/tip/wiki/config/wikifarm/farmconfig.py




From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Tue Dec  8 06:17:40 2009
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:17:40 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] wikis URLs in farmconfig (moin 1.9.0)
In-Reply-To: <1260259833.3974.756.camel@solid.paris.klabs.be>
References: <1260259833.3974.756.camel@solid.paris.klabs.be>
Message-ID: <1260271060.18990.4.camel@x300>

Moin Franklin,

> It seems there's a discrepancy in farmconfig.py[1] for moinmoin-1.9.0 :

Thanks for reporting this, it is fixed by:

http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/a7477cf9c536

Cheers,

Thomas





From roger.bos at rothschild.com  Tue Dec  8 07:36:46 2009
From: roger.bos at rothschild.com (Bos, Roger)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 07:36:46 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] How to link to wiki when using DNS entry
In-Reply-To: <1260258832.18990.2.camel@x300>
References: <D8C95B444AD6EE4AAD638D818A9CFD340370E231@RINNYCSE000.rth.ad.rothschild.com>
	<1260258832.18990.2.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <D8C95B444AD6EE4AAD638D818A9CFD340370E244@RINNYCSE000.rth.ad.rothschild.com>

Thomas,

Yes, I had to add the URL to the farmconfig.py.  Thanks so much for your
help!

Thanks,

Roger 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Waldmann [mailto:tw-public at gmx.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:54 AM
To: Bos, Roger
Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] How to link to wiki when using DNS entry


> I run moin 1.8.5 called "testwiki" on our intranet on a server called 
> rins0050.  So the following address takes me to the wiki:
> 
> http://rins0050/testwiki
> 
> To make matters easier for users, I had our IT dept create a DNS entry

> called "pad" that takes the user to rins0050.  This for fine for my 
> web pages, but does work for my testwiki.  The following link doesn't
> work:
> 
> http://pad/testtwiki
> 
> Anyone have any ideas on how I can get it to work?

Well, I guess it is not the typo (double-t in the middle of testwiki)
that causes the fault, right?

If it is not that and you are running a farm configuration, you maybe
have to fix the farmconfig.py, so it also (or only) matches the new URL.

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From hamjavar at unm.edu  Tue Dec  8 11:03:36 2009
From: hamjavar at unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar)
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:03:36 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] nested renaming
Message-ID: <4B1E78D8.8070305@unm.edu>


moin 1.8.4

Hello,

I have a documentaion comprised of pages in which there
linked pages and.... It's 4 or 5 level nested hierarchiy.

How would I go about changing their names?
I would hope that by changing the name of the top page,
Moin will figure out the rest and chnage the names of
all pages underneath .....

Is that true?


Thanks,
Farid




From fpiat at klabs.be  Thu Dec 10 02:19:59 2009
From: fpiat at klabs.be (Frank Lin PIAT)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:19:59 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] cookie_lifetime, anonymous_session_lifetime,
 and openid in MoinMoin 1.9
Message-ID: <1260429599.15218.76.camel@solid.paris.klabs.be>

Hello,

The variables cookie_lifetime and anonymous_session_lifetime have
changed in an incompatible way in moin 1.9:

in moin 1.8 [1], the variables use to be:
  cookie_lifetime = INTEGER
  anonymous_session_lifetime = INTEGER

in moin 1.9 [2], the variables use to be:
  cookie_lifetime = TUPLE, like:   (0, 12)
  anonymous_session_lifetime -> NOT USED.

Make sure you update the variable in your configuration file, to avoid:
1. the Error 
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/MoinMoin/user.py", line 874, in _wantTrail
   return (not self.valid and self._request.cfg.cookie_lifetime[0]  # anon sessions enabled
   TypeError: 'int' object is unsubscriptable
2. broken OpenID authentication (??)


Wiki translators:
   The Spanish, Chinese, Ukrainian, Portuguese and 
   French wiki pages needs to be updated (search 
   "cookie_lifetime" see [3]).

For more information, see:
  http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/CookieLifetimeSmoothTransition 

Franklin


[1] http://master18.moinmo.in/HelpOnSessions
[2] http://master19.moinmo.in/HelpOnSessions
[3] http://master19.moinmo.in/FrontPage?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=cookie_lifetime&fullsearch=Text





From kdmoyers at gmail.com  Thu Dec 10 15:41:00 2009
From: kdmoyers at gmail.com (Kirby Moyers)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:41:00 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] making a macro to tell the page rev number
Message-ID: <912741790912101241n414f0d55mc798447d57d40f90@mail.gmail.com>

I'm having trouble making a macro to tell the page rev number
and last rev date.  My short poor attempt is listed below.  I am a
fairly experienced coder, but have never worked with python before.

The calculation of the rev number works sometimes, but
other times makes an error "unsubscriptable", I guess
because the expression did not return a list.  Is there
a more reliable way to get the rev number?

The rev date calculation is just me taking shots
in the dark.  I have no firm idea how to find this value.

Anyone got an idea how to find these two values?

As last ditch, I guess I could try to go find the edit-log
file and read out the last line, but that seemed to violate
the general flow of the 1.8.5 moinmoin code.

Thanks in advance for any help!!
-Kirby


from MoinMoin.wikiutil import get_unicode, get_bool, get_int, get_float

Dependencies = []
generates_headings = False

def macro_PageRevision(macro):
    # arguments passed in can be None or a unicode object

    Dependencies = ["pages"] # is this right??

    # saw suggestion: macro.form.get("rev")   which sometimes produces [u'25']
    # saw suggestion: macro.request.page.rev  which always produces 0

    thisrev = int(macro.form.get("rev")[0])+1   # this actually worked sometimes
    thistim = macro.form.get('time', [''])[0]   # this never worked

    return macro.formatter.text("Rev "+thisrev+" "+thistim)



From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Dec 11 02:58:42 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:58:42 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] nested renaming
In-Reply-To: <4B1E78D8.8070305@unm.edu>
References: <4B1E78D8.8070305@unm.edu>
Message-ID: <1260518322.18013.10.camel@x300>


> I would hope that by changing the name of the top page,
> Moin will figure out the rest and chnage the names of
> all pages underneath .....

It optionally renames all sub-pages also.

BUT: it won't fix the links that point to the renamed page.





From matt.price at utoronto.ca  Sat Dec 12 09:12:52 2009
From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 09:12:52 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] visual map of my wiki?
Message-ID: <1260627172.2761.6226.camel@gont>

Hi folks,

I have a little project with a friend that started life as a kind of map
of relationships using the bubbl.us mapping website (here's a picture:
http://www.derailleur.org/images/bubblus_Hidden_Cameras.jpg ).  But
bubbl.us's interface is a little limiting, and I think the project makes
more sense as a wiki, where nodes can be easily cross-linked and
descriptions expanded arbitarily.  So I'd like to create a wiki -- but
then automatically generate something like the original map from the
wiki links. I can imagine one might do this two ways -- either just by
reading all the links in a wiki page, or by adding some kind of new
field to a page that signals a relationship type, say:
{relation:parent:WinnipegBabysitter} 
or something like that.  Probably just organically following the links
would be more interesting.  

Anyway I'm just beginning, don't have any experience with visualization
tools, and it seems to me this is likely something that's already been
done, and I'd just as soon not have to reinvent the wheel.  So has
anyone out there done something similar already?

Thanks very much for your help!

Matt


-- 
Matt Price
matt.price at utoronto.ca
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From matt.price at utoronto.ca  Sat Dec 12 11:33:22 2009
From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:33:22 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] visual map of my wiki?
Message-ID: <1260635602.2761.6812.camel@gont>

Hi folks,

I have a little project with a friend that started life as a kind of map
of relationships using the bubbl.us mapping website (here's a picture:
http://www.derailleur.org/images/bubblus_Hidden_Cameras.jpg ).  But
bubbl.us's interface is a little limiting, and I think the project makes
more sense as a wiki, where nodes can be easily cross-linked and
descriptions expanded arbitarily.  So I'd like to create a wiki -- but
then automatically generate something like the original map from the
wiki links. 

I'm not at all familiar with Graphviz,and in fact have no experience
with visualization software at all;  but I see there are graphViz
plugins for several popular wiki systems -- I use MoinMoin, but I guess
it works for mediawiki, too.  But most of the examples I find there are
for static graphs, and I want to dynamically generate a graph of the
whole wiki -- and maybe also smaller graphs that would go, say, atthe
base of each page.  


Can you give me some hints for stariting out -- maybe links to other
graphs that do similar things, or some such?  It'd be a tremendous help.
Thanks so much,

Matt
-- 
Matt Price
matt.price at utoronto.ca

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From matt.price at utoronto.ca  Sat Dec 12 11:36:12 2009
From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:36:12 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] visual map of my wiki?
In-Reply-To: <1260635602.2761.6812.camel@gont>
References: <1260635602.2761.6812.camel@gont>
Message-ID: <1260635772.2761.6826.camel@gont>

On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 11:33 -0500, Matt Price wrote:
sorry, just discovered the graphviz plugin & was writing to graphviz.
apologies for the duplicates! 

matt
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From kdmoyers at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 15:24:57 2009
From: kdmoyers at gmail.com (Kirby Moyers)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:24:57 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] making a macro to tell the page rev number
In-Reply-To: <912741790912101241n414f0d55mc798447d57d40f90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <912741790912101241n414f0d55mc798447d57d40f90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <912741790912171224l3103678am84425987b4e551b8@mail.gmail.com>

I think I've got it!  see below

I don't think I know what "Dependencies" is for though, and so that part is
probably wrong.  But the revision and date seem correct!!

PageRevision.py

from MoinMoin import wikiutil
from MoinMoin.wikiutil import get_unicode, get_bool, get_int, get_float
from MoinMoin.logfile import editlog

Dependencies = []
generates_headings = False

def macro_PageRevision(macro):

    request = macro.request
    pagename = request.page.page_name

    Dependencies = ["pages"] # is this right??

    log = editlog.EditLog(request, rootpagename=pagename)
    for line in log.reverse():
        rev = str(int(line.rev))
        tim = request.user.getFormattedDateTime(wikiutil.version2timestamp(line.ed_time_usecs))
        break
    return macro.formatter.text("Rev "+rev+" at "+tim)


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Kirby Moyers <kdmoyers at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm having trouble making a macro to tell the page rev number
> and last rev date. ?My short poor attempt is listed below. ?I am a
> fairly experienced coder, but have never worked with python before.
>
> The calculation of the rev number works sometimes, but
> other times makes an error "unsubscriptable", I guess
> because the expression did not return a list. ?Is there
> a more reliable way to get the rev number?
>
> The rev date calculation is just me taking shots
> in the dark. ?I have no firm idea how to find this value.
>
> Anyone got an idea how to find these two values?
>
> As last ditch, I guess I could try to go find the edit-log
> file and read out the last line, but that seemed to violate
> the general flow of the 1.8.5 moinmoin code.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help!!
> -Kirby
>
>
> from MoinMoin.wikiutil import get_unicode, get_bool, get_int, get_float
>
> Dependencies = []
> generates_headings = False
>
> def macro_PageRevision(macro):
> ? ?# arguments passed in can be None or a unicode object
>
> ? ?Dependencies = ["pages"] # is this right??
>
> ? ?# saw suggestion: macro.form.get("rev") ? which sometimes produces [u'25']
> ? ?# saw suggestion: macro.request.page.rev ?which always produces 0
>
> ? ?thisrev = int(macro.form.get("rev")[0])+1 ? # this actually worked sometimes
> ? ?thistim = macro.form.get('time', [''])[0] ? # this never worked
>
> ? ?return macro.formatter.text("Rev "+thisrev+" "+thistim)
>



From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 17 16:11:36 2009
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:11:36 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] PageComment2 update for Moin 1.9?
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0912171311j22294e12ja7ea40947c4a23a9@mail.gmail.com>

While I have Moin 1.9 tested and running on my backup test server (and
update instructions here for anyone else who may benefit
http://moinmo.in/RickVanderveer/UpgradingFromMoin18ToMoin19), I cannot yet
roll it out to our live production server because of one measly incompatible
plugin: PageComment2 (found here: http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/PageComment2).

The error in the error logs is this:

AttributeError: Macro instance has no attribute 'form'

Anyone with any real python skills interested in updating this?  Pretty
please?  I simply lack the programming skills to even know where to begin on
tackling this...

-Rick
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Dec 18 03:44:39 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:44:39 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] PageComment2 update for Moin 1.9?
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0912171311j22294e12ja7ea40947c4a23a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c39e1ca0912171311j22294e12ja7ea40947c4a23a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1261125879.27895.5.camel@x300>

> AttributeError: Macro instance has no attribute 'form'

macro.form is gone.

This was deprecated since quite a while and because there is not only
request.form now, but also request.args and request.values, we finally
killed it.

request.form = current POST form fields
request.args = current URL args
request.values = both mixed together

http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.9/FormReview





From chris at edesix.com  Mon Dec 21 16:58:16 2009
From: chris at edesix.com (Chris Paulson-Ellis)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:58:16 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable after 1.6 to 1.8
	upgrade
Message-ID: <hgor1p$ek7$1@ger.gmane.org>

I just upgraded from 1.6 to 1.8 (fedora 10 to fedora 11 package 
moin-1.8.5-1.fc11) and applied the usual upgrade steps (replacing the 
underlay, updating moin.wsgi and wikiconfig.py, etc.).

Now I'm getting a Python exception on any page access:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py", 
line 1311, in run
     handler(self.page.page_name, self)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/action/__init__.py", 
line 253, in do_show
     content_only=content_only,
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 1173, 
in send_page
     html_head=html_head,
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py", 
line 1578, in send_title
     page_front_page = wikiutil.getFrontPage(request).page_name
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 
787, in getFrontPage
     return getLocalizedPage(request, request.cfg.page_front_page)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 
756, in getLocalizedPage
     i18n_name = request.getText(pagename)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py", 
line 248, in &lt;lambda&gt;
     self.getText = lambda text, i18n=self.i18n, request=self, 
lang=self.lang, **kv: i18n.getText(text, request, lang, **kv)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/i18n/__init__.py", 
line 285, in getText
     language = languages[lang]['x-language-in-english']
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable


I've attached the full error page.

Can anyone who knows the code make sense of this?
Thanks,
Chris.
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Dec 21 18:26:16 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:26:16 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable after 1.6 to
 1.8 upgrade
In-Reply-To: <hgor1p$ek7$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <hgor1p$ek7$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1261437976.9804.4.camel@x300>


> I just upgraded from 1.6 to 1.8 (fedora 10 to fedora 11 package 
> moin-1.8.5-1.fc11) and applied the usual upgrade steps (replacing the 
> underlay, updating moin.wsgi and wikiconfig.py, etc.).

Maybe add "moin ... cleancache" to the list. :)





From chris at edesix.com  Mon Dec 21 20:08:51 2009
From: chris at edesix.com (Chris Paulson-Ellis)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:08:51 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable after 1.6 to
	1.8 upgrade
In-Reply-To: <1261437976.9804.4.camel@x300>
References: <hgor1p$ek7$1@ger.gmane.org> <1261437976.9804.4.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <hgp673$fc7$1@ger.gmane.org>

>> I just upgraded from 1.6 to 1.8 (fedora 10 to fedora 11 package
>> moin-1.8.5-1.fc11) and applied the usual upgrade steps (replacing the
>> underlay, updating moin.wsgi and wikiconfig.py, etc.).
>
> Maybe add "moin ... cleancache" to the list. :)
>

Yep, did that!




From chris at edesix.com  Tue Dec 22 07:08:13 2009
From: chris at edesix.com (Chris Paulson-Ellis)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:08:13 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable after 1.6 to
 1.8 upgrade [FIXED]
In-Reply-To: <hgor1p$ek7$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <hgor1p$ek7$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <hgqcrd$cs0$1@ger.gmane.org>

Chris Paulson-Ellis wrote:
> I just upgraded from 1.6 to 1.8 (fedora 10 to fedora 11 package
> moin-1.8.5-1.fc11) and applied the usual upgrade steps (replacing the
> underlay, updating moin.wsgi and wikiconfig.py, etc.).
> 
> Now I'm getting a Python exception on any page access:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
[snip]
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/MoinMoin/i18n/__init__.py",
> line 285, in getText
>     language = languages[lang]['x-language-in-english']
> TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable

I fixed my problem by doing "chown -R apache:apache data/cache", the redoing the "moin ... cleancache". The fedora package update seems to have resulted in the cache/__common__/i18n directory being owned by root, which caused the cache read/write code in i18n/__init__.py to fail. I would have found this easier to debug if the cache read/write code had logged some errors due to the permissions problem.

Chris.




From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Dec 22 10:30:08 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:30:08 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable after 1.6
	to	1.8 upgrade [FIXED]
In-Reply-To: <hgqcrd$cs0$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <hgor1p$ek7$1@ger.gmane.org>  <hgqcrd$cs0$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1261495808.27647.3.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

> I fixed my problem by doing "chown -R apache:apache data/cache",
>  the redoing the "moin ... cleancache". The fedora package update
>  seems to have resulted in the cache/__common__/i18n directory being
>  owned by root, which caused the cache read/write code in i18n/__init__.py to fail.

Oops. Maybe report a bug to Fedora about that. They should either run
chown also or execute moin script stuff under the user apache.

> I would have found this easier to debug if the cache read/write code had logged
> some errors due to the permissions problem.

I'll check that.





From mark at ucar.edu  Wed Dec 23 14:12:01 2009
From: mark at ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:12:01 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
Message-ID: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>

I have a collection of MoinMoin wikis, running a way-old version, so I
want to update them to 1.9.0.  At the same time, since it seems to be
the way of the future, I'm shifting from mod_python to WSGI.

My first attempt was to configure them using FarmConfig, but rather than
have them set up as

wiki1.example.com
wiki2.example.com
wiki3.example.com

they're configured as

example.com/wiki1/FrontPage
example.com/wiki2/FrontPage
example.com/wiki3/FrontPage

so FarmConfig didn't work, since it doesn't seem to preserve the 'wiki1'
prefix to the page URLs.

My next attempt was to put

WSGIScriptAlias /wiki1 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki1.wsgi
WSGIScriptAlias /wiki2 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki2.wsgi
WSGIScriptAlias /wiki3 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki3.wsgi

into the Apache config, with the appropriate data_dir configured in each
copy of moin.wsgi.  That seems to work for viewing pages anonymously,
but when I log in, it sticks for exactly one page view, then I'm logged
back out again.

I found this page:

http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.9WikiFarmSessionDirHandlingBroken

but applying that fix didn't seem to make a difference.

Can anyone shed some light on this issue?  My fallback plan is to go
ahead and configure wiki1.example.com, etc, and then proxy from
example.com/wiki1, but that seems awfully convoluted...

Thank you!

-- 
Mark Bradford, NCAR/EOL/CDS/CTM
<mark at ucar.edu>  (303) 497-8169



From mark at ucar.edu  Wed Dec 23 17:28:48 2009
From: mark at ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:28:48 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>
	<1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
Message-ID: <4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>

Mail at Heavy.ch wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 12:12 -0700 schrieb Mark Bradford:

>> My next attempt was to put
>>
>> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki1 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki1.wsgi
>> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki2 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki2.wsgi
>> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki3 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki3.wsgi
> 
> only one is enough! If you do not want separate the wikis by hostname
> (like wiki1.example.com), but do seperate those with a directory name
> (like example.com/wiki), you can use WSGIScriptAliasMatch. See here some
> configuration hints:
> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithMoinMoin

Marcle, thanks for your reply!  I spotted that "IntegrationWithMoinMoin"
page, actually, but it seems to be doing something very similar to what
I'm doing above -- it just looks like a single line because it's doing
regular expression matching.  You still need a new something.wsgi script
for each wiki instance.

I'll try grabbing the code from Mercurial, thank you!

-- 
Mark Bradford, NCAR/EOL/CDS/CTM
<mark at ucar.edu>  (303) 497-8169



From mark at ucar.edu  Wed Dec 23 17:36:22 2009
From: mark at ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:36:22 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>	<1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
	<4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <4B329B66.9080805@ucar.edu>

Mark Bradford wrote:

> I'll try grabbing the code from Mercurial, thank you!

...Sadly, that doesn't seem to rectify the issue.

-- 
Mark Bradford, NCAR/EOL/CDS/CTM
<mark at ucar.edu>  (303) 497-8169



From mail at heavy.ch  Wed Dec 23 17:37:58 2009
From: mail at heavy.ch (Mail@Heavy.ch)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:37:58 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>
	<1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
	<4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <1261607878.1263.58.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>

Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 15:28 -0700 schrieb Mark Bradford:
> Mail at Heavy.ch wrote:
> 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 12:12 -0700 schrieb Mark Bradford:
> 
> >> My next attempt was to put
> >>
> >> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki1 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki1.wsgi
> >> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki2 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki2.wsgi
> >> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki3 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki3.wsgi
> > 
> > only one is enough! If you do not want separate the wikis by hostname
> > (like wiki1.example.com), but do seperate those with a directory name
> > (like example.com/wiki), you can use WSGIScriptAliasMatch. See here some
> > configuration hints:
> > http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithMoinMoin
> 
> Marcle, thanks for your reply!  I spotted that "IntegrationWithMoinMoin"
> page, actually, but it seems to be doing something very similar to what
> I'm doing above -- it just looks like a single line because it's doing
> regular expression matching.  You still need a new something.wsgi script
> for each wiki instance.
> 
> I'll try grabbing the code from Mercurial, thank you!
> 

well, I running a farmwiki with different subdomains (like
wiki1.example.com), and I have only one WSGIScriptAlias and one central
moin.wsgi. the key is that you include the correct sys.path.insert to
your farmconfig dir, in your wsgi file, like: 

sys.path.insert(0, '/var/www/moinmoin/config')

bye
Marcel





From mail at heavy.ch  Wed Dec 23 17:42:38 2009
From: mail at heavy.ch (Mail@Heavy.ch)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:42:38 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <4B329B66.9080805@ucar.edu>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>
	<1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
	<4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu> <4B329B66.9080805@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <1261608158.1263.65.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>

Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 15:36 -0700 schrieb Mark Bradford:
> Mark Bradford wrote:
> 
> > I'll try grabbing the code from Mercurial, thank you!
> 
> ...Sadly, that doesn't seem to rectify the issue.
> 

maybye login to irc and ask somebody there, maybe they can help you
directly: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat

bye
Marcel





From mail at heavy.ch  Wed Dec 23 17:17:12 2009
From: mail at heavy.ch (Mail@Heavy.ch)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:17:12 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>

Hi Mark

See some feedbacks directly in your mail...

Am Mittwoch, den 23.12.2009, 12:12 -0700 schrieb Mark Bradford:

> My first attempt was to configure them using FarmConfig, but rather than
> have them set up as
> 
> wiki1.example.com
> wiki2.example.com
> wiki3.example.com
> 
> they're configured as
> 
> example.com/wiki1/FrontPage
> example.com/wiki2/FrontPage
> example.com/wiki3/FrontPage

be aware that with 1.9.x you have to add the protocol also, like:
^https?://www\.example\.com/wiki1/.*$ 

see here: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/a7477cf9c536

> My next attempt was to put
> 
> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki1 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki1.wsgi
> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki2 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki2.wsgi
> WSGIScriptAlias /wiki3 /path/to/share/moin/server/moin_wiki3.wsgi

only one is enough! If you do not want separate the wikis by hostname
(like wiki1.example.com), but do seperate those with a directory name
(like example.com/wiki), you can use WSGIScriptAliasMatch. See here some
configuration hints:
http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithMoinMoin

> 
> into the Apache config, with the appropriate data_dir configured in each
> copy of moin.wsgi.  That seems to work for viewing pages anonymously,
> but when I log in, it sticks for exactly one page view, then I'm logged
> back out again.
> 
> I found this page:
> 
> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.9WikiFarmSessionDirHandlingBroken
> 
> but applying that fix didn't seem to make a difference.
> 
> Can anyone shed some light on this issue?  My fallback plan is to go
> ahead and configure wiki1.example.com, etc, and then proxy from
> example.com/wiki1, but that seems awfully convoluted...
> 
> Thank you!
> 

you may download directly the latest version from hg, because the
session bug was fixed a few days ago, see here:
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/


bye
Marcle




From mark at ucar.edu  Thu Dec 24 10:55:09 2009
From: mark at ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 08:55:09 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <1261607878.1263.58.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>	<1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>	<4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>
	<1261607878.1263.58.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
Message-ID: <4B338EDD.8040300@ucar.edu>

Mail at Heavy.ch wrote:

> well, I running a farmwiki with different subdomains (like
> wiki1.example.com), and I have only one WSGIScriptAlias and one central
> moin.wsgi. the key is that you include the correct sys.path.insert to
> your farmconfig dir, in your wsgi file, like: 
> 
> sys.path.insert(0, '/var/www/moinmoin/config')

Yes, I understand that; I was trying for a configuration *without* using
different host names.

I looked in on the IRC channel but it was pretty silent; I may try again
next week.

Thanks for your responses!

-- 
Mark Bradford, NCAR/EOL/CDS/CTM
<mark at ucar.edu>  (303) 497-8169



From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 24 13:54:29 2009
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:54:29 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <4B338EDD.8040300@ucar.edu>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>
	<1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>	<4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>
	<1261607878.1263.58.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>
	<4B338EDD.8040300@ucar.edu>
Message-ID: <44F48CE2-22A4-47CC-82E1-23787FF0B474@gmail.com>

Mark,
I have my wiki farm configured identically to how you are describing  
yours.

http://wiki.example.com/project1
http://wiki.example.com/project2
Etc.

I can give you my farmconfig example, etc., but I won't be able to get  
that to you until Monday (I'm out of town for the holidays), if you  
can wait that long.

- Rick

   <sent from iPhone>

On Dec 24, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Mark Bradford <mark at ucar.edu> wrote:

> Mail at Heavy.ch wrote:
>
>> well, I running a farmwiki with different subdomains (like
>> wiki1.example.com), and I have only one WSGIScriptAlias and one  
>> central
>> moin.wsgi. the key is that you include the correct sys.path.insert to
>> your farmconfig dir, in your wsgi file, like:
>>
>> sys.path.insert(0, '/var/www/moinmoin/config')
>
> Yes, I understand that; I was trying for a configuration *without*  
> using
> different host names.
>
> I looked in on the IRC channel but it was pretty silent; I may try  
> again
> next week.
>
> Thanks for your responses!
>
> -- 
> Mark Bradford, NCAR/EOL/CDS/CTM
> <mark at ucar.edu>  (303) 497-8169
>
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From mark at ucar.edu  Thu Dec 24 15:02:36 2009
From: mark at ucar.edu (Mark Bradford)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:02:36 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Need help migrating to WSGI
In-Reply-To: <44F48CE2-22A4-47CC-82E1-23787FF0B474@gmail.com>
References: <4B326B81.3020109@ucar.edu>	<1261606632.1263.34.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>	<4B3299A0.70108@ucar.edu>	<1261607878.1263.58.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>	<4B338EDD.8040300@ucar.edu>
	<44F48CE2-22A4-47CC-82E1-23787FF0B474@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B33C8DC.4090303@ucar.edu>

On 12/24/09 11:54 AM, Rick Vanderveer wrote:

> I can give you my farmconfig example, etc., but I won't be able to get  
> that to you until Monday (I'm out of town for the holidays), if you  
> can wait that long.

That would be great, Rick, thank you!  Happy holidays to you and yours!

-- 
Mark Bradford, NCAR/EOL/CDS/CTM
<mark at ucar.edu>  (303) 497-8169



From mailinglists at xgm.de  Fri Dec 25 11:50:53 2009
From: mailinglists at xgm.de (Florian Lindner)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:50:53 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
Message-ID: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>

Hello,

I just tried to upgrade from 1.8 to 1.9. I run the migration script and replaced the executable code as well as the moin.wsgi. But I get an server error and an error.log

[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] mod_wsgi (pid=25777): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/flindner/xgm.de/pub/rezepte'.
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] Traceback (most recent call last):
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/utils.py", line 248, in __call__
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     return self.app(environ, start_response)
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 250, in __call__
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context = init(request)
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 33, in init
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context.lang = setup_i18n_preauth(context)
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 224, in setup_i18n_preauth
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
[Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable

My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.

Thanks,

Florian



From stellars at interia.pl  Fri Dec 25 14:02:08 2009
From: stellars at interia.pl (Konrad Jelen)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 20:02:08 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
References: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
Message-ID: <EA65B29B-A1FD-4CC0-A54B-15FE63AD8A9E@interia.pl>

hi,

may I ask - what platform/os do you use? Is it Mac? I had similar problem with snow leopard, yet I have found a solution already.

Cheers

--
Konrad Jelen
stellars at interia.pl

On 25 Dec 2009, at 17:50, Florian Lindner wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I just tried to upgrade from 1.8 to 1.9. I run the migration script and replaced the executable code as well as the moin.wsgi. But I get an server error and an error.log
> 
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] mod_wsgi (pid=25777): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/flindner/xgm.de/pub/rezepte'.
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] Traceback (most recent call last):
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/utils.py", line 248, in __call__
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     return self.app(environ, start_response)
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 250, in __call__
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context = init(request)
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 33, in init
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context.lang = setup_i18n_preauth(context)
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 224, in setup_i18n_preauth
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
> 
> My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Florian
> 
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From mailinglists at xgm.de  Sat Dec 26 03:22:30 2009
From: mailinglists at xgm.de (Florian Lindner)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:22:30 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <EA65B29B-A1FD-4CC0-A54B-15FE63AD8A9E@interia.pl>
References: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
	<EA65B29B-A1FD-4CC0-A54B-15FE63AD8A9E@interia.pl>
Message-ID: <200912260922.30658.mailinglists@xgm.de>

Am Freitag, 25. Dezember 2009 20:02:08 schrieb Konrad Jelen:
> hi,
> 
> may I ask - what platform/os do you use? Is it Mac? I had similar problem with snow leopard, yet I have found a solution already.

Hello!

It is a Debian Lenny Linux system. What was the solution in your case?

Regards,

Florian

> On 25 Dec 2009, at 17:50, Florian Lindner wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I just tried to upgrade from 1.8 to 1.9. I run the migration script and replaced the executable code as well as the moin.wsgi. But I get an server error and an error.log
> > 
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] mod_wsgi (pid=25777): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/flindner/xgm.de/pub/rezepte'.
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] Traceback (most recent call last):
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/utils.py", line 248, in __call__
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     return self.app(environ, start_response)
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 250, in __call__
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context = init(request)
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 33, in init
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context.lang = setup_i18n_preauth(context)
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 224, in setup_i18n_preauth
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
> > 
> > My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.

> 



From stellars at interia.pl  Sat Dec 26 14:02:55 2009
From: stellars at interia.pl (Konrad Jelen)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:02:55 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <200912260922.30658.mailinglists@xgm.de>
References: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
	<EA65B29B-A1FD-4CC0-A54B-15FE63AD8A9E@interia.pl>
	<200912260922.30658.mailinglists@xgm.de>
Message-ID: <B6781727-DFB8-4573-8DAA-D12A3060BB65@interia.pl>

Hi.

I had this problem on my mac - it was caused by some not-loaded apache2 server modules. I have noticed, that if I disable Bonjour module, 1.8.x wsgi version works fine while 1.9 doesn't. Entries in the server error logs looked similar.

Cheers

--
Konrad Jelen
stellars at interia.pl

On 26 Dec 2009, at 09:22, Florian Lindner wrote:

> Am Freitag, 25. Dezember 2009 20:02:08 schrieb Konrad Jelen:
>> hi,
>> 
>> may I ask - what platform/os do you use? Is it Mac? I had similar problem with snow leopard, yet I have found a solution already.
> 
> Hello!
> 
> It is a Debian Lenny Linux system. What was the solution in your case?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Florian
> 
>> On 25 Dec 2009, at 17:50, Florian Lindner wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I just tried to upgrade from 1.8 to 1.9. I run the migration script and replaced the executable code as well as the moin.wsgi. But I get an server error and an error.log
>>> 
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] mod_wsgi (pid=25777): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/flindner/xgm.de/pub/rezepte'.
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] Traceback (most recent call last):
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/utils.py", line 248, in __call__
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     return self.app(environ, start_response)
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 250, in __call__
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context = init(request)
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 33, in init
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     context.lang = setup_i18n_preauth(context)
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 224, in setup_i18n_preauth
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
>>> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
>>> 
>>> My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.
> 
>> 


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From tw-public at gmx.de  Sat Dec 26 17:00:27 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:00:27 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
References: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
Message-ID: <1261864827.20176.4.camel@x300>

> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
> [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
> 
> My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.

See there: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/7c9372ef5428





From lists at zopyx.com  Sun Dec 27 07:34:24 2009
From: lists at zopyx.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:34:24 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Creating new wikis dynmaically
Message-ID: <4B375450.40207@zopyx.com>

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Hi there,

I am currently checking the options for integrating MoinMoin with the
Plone CMS.

Users should be able to create Wikis in the same way like standard
Plone content
(folders, pages, images etc.). Is there some way creating new wikis
(not wiki pages)
(e.g. through the XMLRPC API) or does it require a manual
configuration (e.g. through
farmconfig.py)?

Andreas

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From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Dec 28 05:28:03 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:28:03 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Creating new wikis dynmaically
In-Reply-To: <4B375450.40207@zopyx.com>
References: <4B375450.40207@zopyx.com>
Message-ID: <1261996083.4378.4.camel@x300>


> Users should be able to create Wikis in the same way like standard
> Plone content
> (folders, pages, images etc.). Is there some way creating new wikis
> (not wiki pages)
> (e.g. through the XMLRPC API)

No.

> or does it require a manual configuration (e.g. through farmconfig.py)?

With the moin release code, you need farmconfig.py + config modules
referenced from there. A moin config is just a python module with a
Config class in it. moin first imports farmconfig, then the wiki config
module it found by matching the URL regex.

If you do some generally interesting hacks for autocreating wikis (that
is not only usable for plone), join us on #moin-dev on freenode irc.





From kai at aplteam.com  Mon Dec 28 05:23:10 2009
From: kai at aplteam.com (Kai Jaeger)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:23:10 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] Search seems to have a problem
Message-ID: <580814a00912280223h6620de69kaa294d303368446a@mail.gmail.com>

on

http://aplwiki.com

there is a page with the title

"Open Source APL: NARS2000"

Now when I am entering "Open Source APL" into the "search for title"
box it finds only the page

OpenSourceAplStandards

A full text search doesn't work either.

Is this a bug or a feature?

Kai



From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Dec 28 06:14:17 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:14:17 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Search seems to have a problem
In-Reply-To: <580814a00912280223h6620de69kaa294d303368446a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <580814a00912280223h6620de69kaa294d303368446a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1261998857.4378.6.camel@x300>

> on
> 
> http://aplwiki.com
> 
> there is a page with the title
> 
> "Open Source APL: NARS2000"

I didn't see such a pagename there on TitleIndex.





From kai at aplteam.com  Mon Dec 28 09:12:15 2009
From: kai at aplteam.com (Kai Jaeger)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:12:15 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] Search seems to have a problem
In-Reply-To: <1261998857.4378.6.camel@x300>
References: <580814a00912280223h6620de69kaa294d303368446a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1261998857.4378.6.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <580814a00912280612q2c7cc39du4684277d7326db47@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for your efforts, Marcel and Thomas

So it's partly me - I wrongly assumed that the header matches the page
name as it should but it doesn't.

However, why is the full text search not working either? The first
sentence of that page reads "NARS2000 is an Open Source APL."

Kai

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 11:14, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
>> on
>>
>> http://aplwiki.com
>>
>> there is a page with the title
>>
>> "Open Source APL: NARS2000"
>
> I didn't see such a pagename there on TitleIndex.
>
>
>



From mailinglists at xgm.de  Mon Dec 28 12:03:59 2009
From: mailinglists at xgm.de (Florian Lindner)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:03:59 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <1261864827.20176.4.camel@x300>
References: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
	<1261864827.20176.4.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <200912281803.59697.mailinglists@xgm.de>

Am Samstag, 26. Dezember 2009 23:00:27 schrieb Thomas Waldmann:
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
> > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
> > 
> > My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.
> 
> See there: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/7c9372ef5428

Hello,

thanks f?r your reply. I habe replaced my /lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py with the one from the VCS and the error changed:

[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] mod_wsgi (pid=1445): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/flindner/xgm.de/pub/rezepte'.
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] Traceback (most recent call last):
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/utils.py", line 248, in __call__
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return self.app(environ, start_response)
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 263, in __call__
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = run(context)
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 70, in run
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = dispatch(request, context, action_name)
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 118, in dispatch
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = handle_action(context, pagename, action_name)
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 177, in handle_action
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     handler(context.page.page_name, context)
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/action/__init__.py", line 261, in do_show
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     content_only=content_only,
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 1169, in send_page
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     html_head=html_head,
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py", line 1743, in send_title
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     bodyattr.append(' %s' % self.ui_lang_attr())
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py", line 1550, in ui_lang_attr
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return ' lang="%s" dir="%s"' % (lang, i18n.getDirection(lang))
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/i18n/__init__.py", line 257, in getDirection
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return languages[lang]['x-direction']
[Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable

Thanks a lot,

Florian



From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Dec 28 12:29:45 2009
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:29:45 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Search seems to have a problem
In-Reply-To: <580814a00912280223h6620de69kaa294d303368446a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <580814a00912280223h6620de69kaa294d303368446a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1262021385.14054.0.camel@x300>

> on
> 
> http://aplwiki.com
> 
> there is a page with the title
> 
> "Open Source APL: NARS2000"
> 
> Now when I am entering "Open Source APL" into the "search for title"
> box it finds only the page
> 
> OpenSourceAplStandards
> 
> A full text search doesn't work either.

Full text search works for me and finds the NARS2000 page.





From kai at aplteam.com  Mon Dec 28 13:17:36 2009
From: kai at aplteam.com (Kai Jaeger)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:17:36 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] Search seems to have a problem
In-Reply-To: <1262021385.14054.0.camel@x300>
References: <580814a00912280223h6620de69kaa294d303368446a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1262021385.14054.0.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <580814a00912281017x4a2b5f9eg2cc32109c71adc06@mail.gmail.com>

Apparently I have not managed to scroll to the very end of the second
and last page of hits - and that's where it is, the page I was looking
for.

Although I would admire a hit list putting a page into a more
prominent place which has all the magic words in both, the page header
and the first sentence.

Feature request?!

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 17:29, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
>> on
>>
>> http://aplwiki.com
>>
>> there is a page with the title
>>
>> "Open Source APL: NARS2000"
>>
>> Now when I am entering "Open Source APL" into the "search for title"
>> box it finds only the page
>>
>> OpenSourceAplStandards
>>
>> A full text search doesn't work either.
>
> Full text search works for me and finds the NARS2000 page.
>
>
>
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From mailinglists at xgm.de  Wed Dec 30 13:03:30 2009
From: mailinglists at xgm.de (Florian Lindner)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:03:30 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
In-Reply-To: <200912281803.59697.mailinglists@xgm.de>
References: <200912251750.53629.mailinglists@xgm.de>
	<1261864827.20176.4.camel@x300>
	<200912281803.59697.mailinglists@xgm.de>
Message-ID: <200912301903.30306.mailinglists@xgm.de>

Am Montag, 28. Dezember 2009 18:03:59 schrieb Florian Lindner:
> Am Samstag, 26. Dezember 2009 23:00:27 schrieb Thomas Waldmann:
> > > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
> > > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
> > > 
> > > My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.
> > 
> > See there: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/7c9372ef5428
> 
> Hello,
> 
> thanks f?r your reply. I habe replaced my /lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py with the one from the VCS and the error changed:
> 
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] mod_wsgi (pid=1445): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/flindner/xgm.de/pub/rezepte'.
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] Traceback (most recent call last):
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/utils.py", line 248, in __call__
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return self.app(environ, start_response)
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 263, in __call__
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = run(context)
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 70, in run
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = dispatch(request, context, action_name)
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 118, in dispatch
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = handle_action(context, pagename, action_name)
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 177, in handle_action
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     handler(context.page.page_name, context)
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/action/__init__.py", line 261, in do_show
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     content_only=content_only,
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 1169, in send_page
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     html_head=html_head,
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py", line 1743, in send_title
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     bodyattr.append(' %s' % self.ui_lang_attr())
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py", line 1550, in ui_lang_attr
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return ' lang="%s" dir="%s"' % (lang, i18n.getDirection(lang))
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/i18n/__init__.py", line 257, in getDirection
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return languages[lang]['x-direction']
> [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable

No idea anyone?

:-/

Florian



From mail at heavy.ch  Wed Dec 30 16:08:06 2009
From: mail at heavy.ch (Mail@Heavy.ch)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:08:06 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.9 problems
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Am Mittwoch, den 30.12.2009, 19:03 +0100 schrieb Florian Lindner:
> Am Montag, 28. Dezember 2009 18:03:59 schrieb Florian Lindner:
> > Am Samstag, 26. Dezember 2009 23:00:27 schrieb Thomas Waldmann:
> > > > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180]     if lang is None and cfg.language_default in i18n.languages:
> > > > [Fri Dec 25 17:45:52 2009] [error] [client 79.211.124.180] TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
> > > > 
> > > > My language_default ist set to "de". I tried changing it to "en" but it changed nothing.
> > > 
> > > See there: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/7c9372ef5428
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > thanks f?r your reply. I habe replaced my /lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py with the one from the VCS and the error changed:
> > 
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] mod_wsgi (pid=1445): Exception occurred processing WSGI script '/home/flindner/xgm.de/pub/rezepte'.
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] Traceback (most recent call last):
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/utils.py", line 248, in __call__
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return self.app(environ, start_response)
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 263, in __call__
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = run(context)
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 70, in run
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = dispatch(request, context, action_name)
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 118, in dispatch
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     response = handle_action(context, pagename, action_name)
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py", line 177, in handle_action
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     handler(context.page.page_name, context)
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/action/__init__.py", line 261, in do_show
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     content_only=content_only,
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 1169, in send_page
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     html_head=html_head,
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py", line 1743, in send_title
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     bodyattr.append(' %s' % self.ui_lang_attr())
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py", line 1550, in ui_lang_attr
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return ' lang="%s" dir="%s"' % (lang, i18n.getDirection(lang))
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]   File "/home/flindner/moin//lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/i18n/__init__.py", line 257, in getDirection
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20]     return languages[lang]['x-direction']
> > [Mon Dec 28 18:01:28 2009] [error] [client 79.211.125.20] TypeError: 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable
> 
> No idea anyone?
> 
> :-/

I do not know, but here are some ideas...

1. Did you made every step explained here:
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/raw-file/ffaec355ee84/docs/UPDATE.html

2. Also read carefully the changes here:
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/ffaec355ee84/docs/CHANGES (special
this marked with HINT)

3. Update after reading this your wikiconfig correctly? 

4. Did you also clean the cache of your wiki?

5. Do you running latest WSGI 3.1 or atleast 2.5 or higher?

6. maybe not only replace, but reinstall everything with --force

bye
Marcel



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