[Moin-user] Nesting wiki syntax and delimiters
Christopher MacMinn
cmac at mit.edu
Sun Apr 5 12:29:24 EDT 2009
Hi again, everyone -
This is a long one, so sorry about that. I'm having a few problems with
basic wiki syntax, all loosely related to slightly more advanced use.
Thoughts, opinions, corrections, etc. are all welcome.
First: end-of-line and blank lines.
The wiki parser appears to insert multiple meaningless <span> and <p>
elements into the HTML output -- they have ids like "line-1" and "line867".
This leads to ugly HTML for what should be a very simple page, and I think
it comes from how blank lines are handled. I would suggest that at the very
least, these should not have ids -- certainly, it would not be advisable to
try to style them since they are not user-generated, so I think the ids just
clutter the output.
Also on this topic, some things do not work as expected -- the syntax
instructions state that a definition list with multiple definitions for a
single term should be constructed like this:
Term::
:: definition 1
:: definition 2
:: definition 3
And this pretends to produce the desired output, but in fact the three <dd>
elements are not associated with the correct <dt> element at all -- each
<dd> is handled as a separate definition for a term with a blank <dt>.
Semantically, this is bad... and it could also lead to CSS problems.
Second: nesting wiki syntax.
It appears that many types of wiki syntax don't nest. For example, consider
the following:
=== [[userpage|User's Name]] ===
* [[userpage|User's Name]]
* blah blah
[[userpage|User's Name]]::
:: blah blah
Only the middle of these three works as expected -- the other two don't
parse the link. It also doesn't work to nest a definition list within an
unordered list, or vice-versa:
* Term 1::
:: definition
* Term 2:: definition
Term 1::
:: * Item 1
* Item 2
* Item 3
Term 3::
:: definition
I realize that these may be slightly tricky to parse correctly, but they are
trivial to construct with HTML. Which brings me to my next point...
Third: delimiters for wiki syntax
Is there a way to manually delimit the beginning and end of a wiki element?
For example,
* { Term 1::
:: definition 1
:: definition 2
:: definition 3 }
* item 2
This way, everything between the curly brackets would be shoved inside the
first <li> element of the <ul>. I think the structural clarity this would
bring is well worth the trade-off of bracket-clutter.
Thanks!
Best, Chris MacMinn
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