From tw-public at gmx.de Sat Nov 1 20:52:40 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:52:40 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.8.0 released! Message-ID: <1225587160.9795.1.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive and the change log. Some system text translations and help pages still need improvement - if you know a non-english language, you can also help translating and/or fixing stuff on master18, see: http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Translation - your work will get into 1.8.1 release then. From gd026215 at googlemail.com Sun Nov 2 06:34:26 2008 From: gd026215 at googlemail.com (di gaf) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:34:26 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Again problems with error logging with new logging mechanism Message-ID: <77df0e640811020334t42880cf4nf25b475ea78eeacc@mail.gmail.com> Hello, *1) what I did:* ** ** log.load_config('C:/Python24/share/moin/config/logging/stderr') os.environ['MOIN_DEBUG'] = '1' in moin.cgi with apache and moinmoin1.7 2)Then I force a dummy "import notexist" in some own plugin/action/test.py, (notexist really not exist), activate this action via http://localhost/cgi-bin/moin1.cgi?action=test and 3) see nothing there. In the old times I saw a detailed error message on my screen. Could you pls give an example logging file instead of given stderr how I can see the error message on my screen as before with version1.5? Best regards Dietmar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauer at biplane.com.au Sun Nov 2 08:03:34 2008 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:03:34 +1100 Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrading from 1.5.3 Message-ID: <1225631014.9932.260.camel@karl> Hi. I want to upgrade from 1.5.3 to the latest version, 1.8.0. I've read the file README.migration but have a few questions still. For example, under 1.5.3 migration you say: First make sure you have run all the old mig scripts ONCE (and only once) on your data dirs. The old style stuff moved here: MoinMoin/script/old/migration/ Since I can't find any migration scripts in my current 1.5.3 installation, I'm assuming you mean I should run the scripts supplied with 1.8.0. However, none of the scripts in that directory appear to relate to 1.5.3 (they all relate to earlier versions); should I really run them all? Then in "Post 1.5.3 new style migration" you write: b) Invoke the following command: moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir \ --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data Note: If you did not use setup.py, you can call the moin script directly. It is located in MoinMoin/script/moin.py Which config dir should I specify, the old one or the new one? What is the wiki-url exactly? Is the slash on the end of it necessary? Are "migration" and "data" literals, or do I substitute particular values there? If so, what values? Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) GPG fingerprint: DD23 0DF3 2260 3060 7FEC 5CA8 1AF6 D9E3 CFEE 6B28 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <99285.92761.qm@web36208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Nick Arnett wrote: > From: Nick Arnett > Subject: [Moin-user] Superuser pw after install??? > To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:27 PM > I'm feeling like an idiot because I have searched and > search, re-read the > docs multiple times... yet I can't see what password to > use for the > superuser account after installation. I see nowhere to set > it, nor any > default. > > Any help appreciated.... > > Nick There isn't any superuser account created automatically. Register yourself by any name, and then make yourself a superuser by adding a customization parameter to wikiconfig.py: superuser = [u"JohnDoe", ] Roger Haase From kauer at biplane.com.au Sun Nov 2 16:55:46 2008 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:55:46 +1100 Subject: [Moin-user] Superuser pw after install??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1225662946.9932.299.camel@karl> On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 14:27 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: > I'm feeling like an idiot because I have searched and search, re-read > the docs multiple times... yet I can't see what password to use for > the superuser account after installation. I see nowhere to set it, > nor any default. This is very old info, as I'm still on 1.5, but in that version the "super user" is just whatever user is specified in the configuration file with the right permissions: superuser = [u"SomeUser", ] That is, in wikiconfig.py, there is a "superuser" config item in which you set the username that you want as superuser. Then you set up a "before everything else" ACL: acl_rights_before = u"SomeUser:read,write,delete,revert,admin" Dunno if that still applies in 1.8... Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) GPG fingerprint: DD23 0DF3 2260 3060 7FEC 5CA8 1AF6 D9E3 CFEE 6B28 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: From narnett at mccmedia.com Sun Nov 2 17:35:39 2008 From: narnett at mccmedia.com (Nick Arnett) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:35:39 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Superuser pw after install??? In-Reply-To: <1225662946.9932.299.camel@karl> References: <1225662946.9932.299.camel@karl> Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Karl Auer wrote: > > This is very old info, as I'm still on 1.5, but in that version the > "super user" is just whatever user is specified in the configuration > file with the right permissions: > > superuser = [u"SomeUser", ] > > That is, in wikiconfig.py, there is a "superuser" config item in which > you set the username that you want as superuser. Then you set up a > "before everything else" ACL: > > acl_rights_before = u"SomeUser:read,write,delete,revert,admin" I did all that. But I still can't log in as that user. That's where I'm stuck -- that user needs a password to log in, but I don't see where to set it or docs that tell me what it is by default. Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From narnett at mccmedia.com Sun Nov 2 17:40:46 2008 From: narnett at mccmedia.com (Nick Arnett) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:40:46 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Superuser pw after install??? In-Reply-To: References: <1225662946.9932.299.camel@karl> Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > I did all that. But I still can't log in as that user. That's where I'm > stuck -- that user needs a password to log in, but I don't see where to set > it or docs that tell me what it is by default. > I finally realized that I need to create the account from the Wiki itself, using the superuser name. During the account creation, I set the password. It might be a good idea to explain that in the installation docs... ;-) Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tw-public at gmx.de Sun Nov 2 18:35:47 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:35:47 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrading from 1.5.3 In-Reply-To: <1225631014.9932.260.camel@karl> References: <1225631014.9932.260.camel@karl> Message-ID: <1225668947.25680.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > I want to upgrade from 1.5.3 to the latest version, 1.8.0. Good idea. :) > For example, under 1.5.3 migration you say: > > First make sure you have run all the old mig scripts ONCE (and only > once) on your data dirs. > > The old style stuff moved here: MoinMoin/script/old/migration/ > > Since I can't find any migration scripts in my current 1.5.3 > installation, I'm assuming you mean I should run the scripts supplied > with 1.8.0. However, none of the scripts in that directory appear to > relate to 1.5.3 (they all relate to earlier versions); should I really > run them all? The docs above are assuming that you ran an old moin version (like 1.2 or 1.3) and then migrate to 1.5.3. To do that (for this case) means to run all appropriate mig scripts ONCE (not multiple times) to successfully migrate your data dir to 1.5.3. Of course, if you never had a moin version older than 1.5.3, you don't need to run those old mig scripts. And if you had run them ONCE in the past to migrate to 1.5.3, you don't have to run them again either. Maybe just check if you have a data/meta file with the version number in it. If not, you at least need to run the last one of the old mig scripts (that creates this file). > > Then in "Post 1.5.3 new style migration" you write: > > b) Invoke the following command: > moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir \ > --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data > > Note: If you did not use setup.py, you can call the moin script > directly. It is located in MoinMoin/script/moin.py > > Which config dir should I specify, the old one or the new one? The new one (of course you need to have a working config in there). > What is the wiki-url exactly? Is the slash on the end of it necessary? It is an expression that is matched by farmconfig's "wikis" list (just like a URL you use to access your wiki by browser - but without the http:// part). If you don't run a farmconfig, but just a single wiki, every wiki url will work. > Are "migration" and "data" literals, or do I substitute particular > values there? If so, what values? Literals. BTW, in case of trouble, there are some migration howtos linked from the MoinMoinDownload wiki page. From tw-public at gmx.de Sun Nov 2 19:39:07 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:39:07 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Again problems with error logging with new logging mechanism In-Reply-To: <77df0e640811020334t42880cf4nf25b475ea78eeacc@mail.gmail.com> References: <77df0e640811020334t42880cf4nf25b475ea78eeacc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1225672747.25680.19.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > log.load_config('C:/Python24/share/moin/config/logging/stderr') That means your log output will go to stderr. > os.environ['MOIN_DEBUG'] = '1' I never use that. > in moin.cgi with apache and moinmoin1.7 If you run cgi, stderr goes to apache's error.log IIRC. > 2)Then I force a dummy "import notexist" in some own > plugin/action/test.py, (notexist really not exist), activate > this action via > > http://localhost/cgi-bin/moin1.cgi?action=test I did exactly that, using no configuration at all and just running ./wikiserver.py from the console and got the traceback to the console. > 3) see nothing there. In the old times I saw a detailed error message > on my screen. I don't think you ever get something on your screen if you use apache. But if you just use wikiserver.py, you'll have it on screen, by default. > From haase at msg.ucsf.edu Mon Nov 3 05:18:33 2008 From: haase at msg.ucsf.edu (Sebastian Haase) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:18:33 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrading from 1.5.3 In-Reply-To: <1225668947.25680.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> References: <1225631014.9932.260.camel@karl> <1225668947.25680.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:35 AM, Thomas Waldmann wrote: >> I want to upgrade from 1.5.3 to the latest version, 1.8.0. > > b) Invoke the following command: > moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir \ > --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data > > Note: If you did not use setup.py, you can call the moin script > directly. It is located in MoinMoin/script/moin.py > > Which config dir should I specify, the old one or the new one? The new one (of course you need to have a working config in there). > What is the wiki-url exactly? Is the slash on the end of it necessary? > It is an expression that is matched by farmconfig's "wikis" list (just > like a URL you use to access your wiki by browser - but without the > http:// part). > > If you don't run a farmconfig, but just a single wiki, every wiki url > will work. > So for "normal", i.e. non farmwikis this --wiki-url=... option could be left off entirely ? I run a DesktopVersion, so there is no proper URL that I could think of ! Thanks, Sebastian Haase From gerg.ward+moin at gmail.com Mon Nov 3 10:46:40 2008 From: gerg.ward+moin at gmail.com (Greg Ward) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:46:40 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] moin on a different backed for revision control? In-Reply-To: <804e5c70810310832y20ab37b9k53898e9f9dbcde2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <804e5c70810310832y20ab37b9k53898e9f9dbcde2b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081103154640.GA11760@intelerad.com> On 31 October 2008, Lukasz Szybalski said: > I was wondering if moinmoin is able to support a different backend for > revision control? Current versions of MoinMoin do not have this feature: there is one and only one storage backend for MoinMoin 1.7 and 1.8, namely the simple filesystem layout where each page is a directory. If I understand the plans, 1.9 will be basically the same. Things are supposed to get more interesting around 2.0 -- I believe that is where the branch you discovered is due to be merged in. Greg From steveo at syslang.net Tue Nov 4 17:13:23 2008 From: steveo at syslang.net (Steven W. Orr) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:13:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with TrustedEditorGroup Message-ID: The content of the file is: [root at saturn nicciwiki]# cat TrustedEditorGroup/revisions/00000002 #acl StevenOrr:read,write,delete,revert * StevenOrr * LindaDunbrack [root at saturn nicciwiki]# But when I'm logged in as StevenOrr, it keeps asking me the textchas question. textchas_disabled_group = u"TrustedEditorGroup" This started when I upgraded to 1.7.2 Any ideas? TIA -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net From tw-public at gmx.de Wed Nov 5 01:16:17 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:16:17 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with TrustedEditorGroup In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1225865777.25911.2.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > textchas_disabled_group = u"TrustedEditorGroup" > > This started when I upgraded to 1.7.2 > > Any ideas? Yes. Please read docs/CHANGES about required page_*_regex changes. If you just want regexes working for English, you can also just remove them all from your wikiconfig and use the builtin defaults. From M.Mazurek at netsync.pl Thu Nov 6 16:53:37 2008 From: M.Mazurek at netsync.pl (Marcin Mazurek) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:53:37 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] importing old wiki Message-ID: <20081106215337.GB29948@netsync.pl> Hi, I have a 1.5 moin installation and I plan to do an upgrade to current version 1.8. As inside is a quite big number of articles I looking for a solution to import or translate old moinwiki link styles to new ones: eg. ["lalala"] -> [[lalala]] [:one/two:bla bla bla] -> [[one/two|bla bla bla]] Can You recommend any good solution, some script maybe? regards -- Marcin Mazurek From gerg.ward+moin at gmail.com Thu Nov 6 16:59:36 2008 From: gerg.ward+moin at gmail.com (Greg Ward) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:59:36 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] importing old wiki In-Reply-To: <20081106215337.GB29948@netsync.pl> References: <20081106215337.GB29948@netsync.pl> Message-ID: <20081106215934.GA6201@intelerad.com> On 06 November 2008, Marcin Mazurek said: > I have a 1.5 moin installation and I plan to do an upgrade to current > version 1.8. As inside is a quite big number of articles I looking for a > solution to import or translate old moinwiki link styles to new ones: > > eg. > > ["lalala"] -> [[lalala]] > > [:one/two:bla bla bla] -> [[one/two|bla bla bla]] That should be done automatically by the upgrade scripts. Just follow the instructions in HelpOnUpdating. Greg From steveo at syslang.net Fri Nov 7 20:32:23 2008 From: steveo at syslang.net (Steven W. Orr) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:32:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with TrustedEditorGroup In-Reply-To: <1225865777.25911.2.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> References: <1225865777.25911.2.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: On Wednesday, Nov 5th 2008 at 01:16 -0000, quoth Thomas Waldmann: => =>> textchas_disabled_group = u"TrustedEditorGroup" =>> =>> This started when I upgraded to 1.7.2 =>> =>> Any ideas? => =>Yes. Please read docs/CHANGES about required page_*_regex changes. => =>If you just want regexes working for English, you can also just remove =>them all from your wikiconfig and use the builtin defaults. Sorry if I'm being dense here, but I don't get it. I commented out the lines in my wikiconfig.py that assign to page_category_regex = ur'(?PCategory(?P(?!Template)\S+))' page_dict_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Dict)' page_group_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Group)' page_template_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Template)' and I end up with an attempt to try to edit a page still asking me for a textcha answer. The content of my current TrustedEditorGroup is simply #acl MrAdmin:read,write,delete,revert * Name1Admin * Name2Admin What should I do? TIA -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net From tw-public at gmx.de Sun Nov 9 03:10:14 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 09:10:14 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with TrustedEditorGroup In-Reply-To: References: <1225865777.25911.2.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: <1226218214.28200.7.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > =>> textchas_disabled_group = u"TrustedEditorGroup" > The content of my current TrustedEditorGroup is simply > > #acl MrAdmin:read,write,delete,revert > > * Name1Admin > * Name2Admin > That should work (no textchas) if you're logged in as Name1/2Admin. Maybe stop wiki engine, delete the cache (data/cache/...), start wiki engine. > =>Yes. Please read docs/CHANGES about required page_*_regex changes. > => > =>If you just want regexes working for English, you can also just remove > =>them all from your wikiconfig and use the builtin defaults. > > Sorry if I'm being dense here, but I don't get it. > > I commented out the lines in my wikiconfig.py that assign to > page_category_regex = ur'(?PCategory(?P(?!Template)\S+))' > page_dict_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Dict)' > page_group_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Group)' > page_template_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Template)' > and I end up with an attempt to try to edit a page still asking me for a > textcha answer. OK, it looks like your regexes already were 1.7 compatible (assuming you are editing the config that is used for your wikis). From steveo at syslang.net Sun Nov 9 11:13:59 2008 From: steveo at syslang.net (Steven W. Orr) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:13:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with TrustedEditorGroup In-Reply-To: <1226218214.28200.7.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> References: <1225865777.25911.2.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> <1226218214.28200.7.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: On Sunday, Nov 9th 2008 at 03:10 -0000, quoth Thomas Waldmann: =>> =>> textchas_disabled_group = u"TrustedEditorGroup" =>> The content of my current TrustedEditorGroup is simply =>> =>> #acl MrAdmin:read,write,delete,revert =>> =>> * Name1Admin =>> * Name2Admin =>> => =>That should work (no textchas) if you're logged in as Name1/2Admin. => =>Maybe stop wiki engine, delete the cache (data/cache/...), start wiki engine. => =>> =>Yes. Please read docs/CHANGES about required page_*_regex changes. =>> => =>> =>If you just want regexes working for English, you can also just remove =>> =>them all from your wikiconfig and use the builtin defaults. =>> =>> Sorry if I'm being dense here, but I don't get it. =>> =>> I commented out the lines in my wikiconfig.py that assign to =>> page_category_regex = ur'(?PCategory(?P(?!Template)\S+))' =>> page_dict_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Dict)' =>> page_group_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Group)' =>> page_template_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Template)' =>> and I end up with an attempt to try to edit a page still asking me for a =>> textcha answer. => =>OK, it looks like your regexes already were 1.7 compatible (assuming you =>are editing the config that is used for your wikis). That did it. I stopped apache, deleted the content of data/cache and then restarted apache. As a general question, when do I need to do this? From rb.proj at gmail.com Mon Nov 10 03:54:03 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:54:03 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with TrustedEditorGroup In-Reply-To: References: <1225865777.25911.2.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> <1226218214.28200.7.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: Steven W. Orr schrieb: > On Sunday, Nov 9th 2008 at 03:10 -0000, quoth Thomas Waldmann: > > =>> =>> textchas_disabled_group = u"TrustedEditorGroup" > =>> The content of my current TrustedEditorGroup is simply > =>> > =>> #acl MrAdmin:read,write,delete,revert > =>> > =>> * Name1Admin > =>> * Name2Admin > =>> > => > =>That should work (no textchas) if you're logged in as Name1/2Admin. > => > =>Maybe stop wiki engine, delete the cache (data/cache/...), start wiki engine. > => > =>> =>Yes. Please read docs/CHANGES about required page_*_regex changes. > =>> => > =>> =>If you just want regexes working for English, you can also just remove > =>> =>them all from your wikiconfig and use the builtin defaults. > =>> > =>> Sorry if I'm being dense here, but I don't get it. > =>> > =>> I commented out the lines in my wikiconfig.py that assign to > =>> page_category_regex = ur'(?PCategory(?P(?!Template)\S+))' > =>> page_dict_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Dict)' > =>> page_group_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Group)' > =>> page_template_regex = ur'(?P(?P\S+)Template)' > =>> and I end up with an attempt to try to edit a page still asking me for a > =>> textcha answer. > => > =>OK, it looks like your regexes already were 1.7 compatible (assuming you > =>are editing the config that is used for your wikis). > > That did it. I stopped apache, deleted the content of data/cache and then > restarted apache. > > As a general question, when do I need to do this? Whenever you change the regex for the group definition. I do it always after migration to a newer version. cheers Reimar From duaw at gmx.de Mon Nov 10 08:58:15 2008 From: duaw at gmx.de (Dr. Uwe Werner) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:58:15 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Added attachment lacking in Recent Changes Message-ID: <18DDE1A5-550B-4244-BF67-B4CD1CBCDC66@gmx.de> Hi, after having switched to 1.8.0, in two cases adding an attachment to a page (two different attachments, two different pages) was NOT reflected in the history under Recent Changes. Other added attachments do show up there. The files are uploaded, stored correctly. Just unknown to RecentChanges. The observed behaviour seems not predictably repeatable. It'a a local wiki, few users. Anyone else experiencing this? Cheers, Uwe Werner From rb.proj at gmail.com Mon Nov 10 12:27:37 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:27:37 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Added attachment lacking in Recent Changes In-Reply-To: <18DDE1A5-550B-4244-BF67-B4CD1CBCDC66@gmx.de> References: <18DDE1A5-550B-4244-BF67-B4CD1CBCDC66@gmx.de> Message-ID: Dr. Uwe Werner schrieb: > Hi, > > after having switched to 1.8.0, in two cases adding an attachment to a > page (two different attachments, two different pages) was NOT > reflected in the history under Recent Changes. Other added attachments > do show up there. The files are uploaded, stored correctly. Just > unknown to RecentChanges. > > The observed behaviour seems not predictably repeatable. It'a a local > wiki, few users. > > Anyone else experiencing this? > > Cheers, > Uwe Werner Not yet please file a bug report and give the needed amount of information http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs (Report new bug) OS, filesystem, python version, ... cheers Reimar > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ From lnr at qad.com Mon Nov 10 19:43:42 2008 From: lnr at qad.com (Linda Rose) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:43:42 -0800 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin search Message-ID: Hi, I'm a MoinMoin newbie so I apologize if this is a stupid question. I recently installed the desktop version of MoinMoin and populated it with content generated from ePublisher. I have about 15 User Guides on the wiki. I am puzzled by my Search results. Some strings I know exist come up as Not Found. Am I missing something? Was I supposed to configure the search somehow? If anyone could point me to any helpful information about the search, I would greatly appreciate it. The way the search operates now makes my wiki unusable. Thanks, Linda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnr at qad.com Mon Nov 10 20:10:01 2008 From: lnr at qad.com (Linda Rose) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:10:01 -0800 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin search In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Dylan, When I do a title search, it doesn't find the string, even though the string is a heading in the wiki TableOfContents. When I do a full-text search, it takes forever and I finally just stop it. I have a LOT of content on this wiki-probably roughly equivalent to 10,000 printed pages. I don't think you can get to my wiki (firewall)? But you could try: http://dxp-co-dt.qad.com:8080/UserGuides Thanks, Linda "Dylan Martin" Sent by: dmartin at seattlecentral.edu 11/10/2008 05:02 PM To "Linda Rose" cc moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject Re: [Moin-user] MoinMoin search Are you searching the full text or just doing a title search? If you're doing a full text search, can you tell us more about what's going on? Examples of what doesn't work, URL etc..? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Linda Rose wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm a MoinMoin newbie so I apologize if this is a stupid question. I > recently installed the desktop version of MoinMoin and populated it with > content generated from ePublisher. I have about 15 User Guides on the wiki. > I am puzzled by my Search results. Some strings I know exist come up as Not > Found. > Am I missing something? Was I supposed to configure the search somehow? If > anyone could point me to any helpful information about the search, I would > greatly appreciate it. 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URL: From rb.proj at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 04:07:04 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:07:04 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin search In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Linda Rose schrieb: > Hi Dylan, > > When I do a title search, it doesn't find the string, even though the > string is a heading in the wiki TableOfContents. > > When I do a full-text search, it takes forever and I finally just stop it. > I have a LOT of content on this wiki-probably roughly equivalent to 10,000 > printed pages. > > I don't think you can get to my wiki (firewall)? But you could try: > http://dxp-co-dt.qad.com:8080/UserGuides > > Thanks, > > Linda > > Hi Linda what is your Moin version (SystemInfo) how do you search e.g. by xapian? Reimar > > > > > > "Dylan Martin" > Sent by: dmartin at seattlecentral.edu > 11/10/2008 05:02 PM > > To > "Linda Rose" > cc > moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Subject > Re: [Moin-user] MoinMoin search > > > > > > > Are you searching the full text or just doing a title search? If > you're doing a full text search, can you tell us more about what's > going on? Examples of what doesn't work, URL etc..? > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Linda Rose wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm a MoinMoin newbie so I apologize if this is a stupid question. I >> recently installed the desktop version of MoinMoin and populated it with >> content generated from ePublisher. I have about 15 User Guides on the > wiki. >> I am puzzled by my Search results. Some strings I know exist come up as > Not >> Found. >> Am I missing something? Was I supposed to configure the search somehow? > If >> anyone could point me to any helpful information about the search, I > would >> greatly appreciate it. The way the search operates now makes my wiki >> unusable. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Linda >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Moin-user mailing list >> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user >> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From kentsin at yahoo.com Tue Nov 11 04:47:04 2008 From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:47:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] moinmoin standalone server on windows Message-ID: <701739.78258.qm@web37506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The help page show an option --docs= however, the 1.8 command does not accept that. It always complain that can not find the htdocs directory. Moreover, I would like to confirm which moin.py to copy to the wiki directory. Thank you. Kent From rb.proj at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 05:02:22 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:02:22 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] moinmoin standalone server on windows In-Reply-To: <701739.78258.qm@web37506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <701739.78258.qm@web37506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: kent sin schrieb: > The help page show an option --docs= > > however, the 1.8 command does not accept that. > > It always complain that can not find the htdocs directory. > > Moreover, I would like to confirm which moin.py to copy to the wiki directory. > > Thank you. > > Kent > > In 1.8 you don't need to copy something into the wiki directory. To run the standalone server just go into the main level dir e.g. moin-1.8.0 and start wikiserver.py cheers Reimar From olivier.lauret at googlemail.com Tue Nov 11 10:49:06 2008 From: olivier.lauret at googlemail.com (Olivier Lauret) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:49:06 +0000 Subject: [Moin-user] Import text file Message-ID: Hello, I'm new with Moimoin and I'm trying to import text files into my wiki automatically. I've seen on Internet the following code " http://moinmo.in/ScriptMarket/AppendTextScript" but on the following import, the RequestCLI isn't valid in my environment: from MoinMoin.request import RequestCLI I've replace RequestCLI by request_cli (the only similar python script available on my server), but here again I have another error: TypeError: 'module' object is not callable when it calls: request = resquest_cli(url=url, pagename=pagename) If you know another way to import text file, I'll be happy to try as this feature is crutial for the wiki deployement. I've installed the lastest wiki version available (1.8.0) using ApacheWithModWSGI. Any help is welcome. Thank you reading the message. Regards, woody -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rb.proj at gmail.com Tue Nov 11 16:17:15 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:17:15 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Import text file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Olivier Lauret schrieb: > Hello, > > I'm new with Moimoin and I'm trying to import text files into my wiki > automatically. I've seen on Internet the following code " > http://moinmo.in/ScriptMarket/AppendTextScript" but on the following import, > the RequestCLI isn't valid in my environment: > > from MoinMoin.request import RequestCLI > > I've replace RequestCLI by request_cli (the only similar python script > available on my server), but here again I have another error: > > TypeError: 'module' object is not callable > > when it calls: > > request = resquest_cli(url=url, pagename=pagename) > > If you know another way to import text file, I'll be happy to try as this > feature is crutial for the wiki deployement. > > I've installed the lastest wiki version available (1.8.0) using > ApacheWithModWSGI. > > Any help is welcome. > > Thank you reading the message. > > Regards, > woody > Hi How many text files do you like to import? If only a few files try Action Load (see more action menu) If you like to do it using a request object you do find lot's of example on http://moinmo.in/MoinAPI/Beispiele e.g. saving content of 'example.txt' on page u'ExamplePage' from MoinMoin.request import request_cli request = request_cli.Request() from MoinMoin.PageEditor import PageEditor pagename = u'ExamplePage' page = PageEditor(request, pagename) text = file('example.txt', 'r').readlines() try: page.saveText(''.join(text), 0) except page.Unchanged: print "You did not change the page content, not saved!" if you like to use xml-rpc you do find the example at http://moinmo.in/MoinAPI/Beispiele#xmlrpc.putPage.28.29 The text can be translated into your language, currently it is written in german: http://translate.google.com/translate_t is your friend cheers Reimar > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From olivier.lauret at googlemail.com Wed Nov 12 06:43:01 2008 From: olivier.lauret at googlemail.com (Olivier Lauret) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:43:01 +0000 Subject: [Moin-user] Import text file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dylan, Thank you for your message. Very appreciated. Indeed, the changes below works perfectly. Thank you. I tried to apply this script to a non-existing page, in order to create pages automatically from another source, but I encountered some ACL issues. Would you know how to create a page and set its ACL? I guess you have to use the PageEditor import and the parseACL, but I have no idea how this works since the parseACL doesn't take any argument. Sorry if the question is too basic. Regards, Woody. 2008/11/11 Dylan Martin > The append-text.py script from the script market does not seem to work with > MoinMoin 1.6. This patch attempts to make it work. > > Please note that you must edit append-text.py to add your config dir > (where wikiconfig.py is) and the directory where the MoinMoin library > scripts are located to sys.path. If you want to edit MoinMoin pages that > are not world-writable, you must edit append-text.py to set the > 'editor_email' variable. > > To apply this patch run "patch -p 1 < append-text.py" in the same dir > as append-text.py. > > -Dylan > > --- old/append-text.py 2005-05-28 21:18:27.000000000 -0700 > +++ patched/append-text.py 2008-11-11 14:27:00.000000000 -0800 > @@ -44,14 +44,22 @@ > # The path to moinmoin, not needed if its installed with > setup.py > '/Volumes/Home/nir/Projects/moin/fix'] + sys.path > > +# set this to the email addr of the moin user who this script should act > as > +# or leave as None > +editor_email = None > +# editor_email = 'editor at example.com' > > from MoinMoin.PageEditor import PageEditor > -from MoinMoin.request import RequestCLI > - > +from MoinMoin.request.request_cli import Request > +from MoinMoin.user import get_by_email_address > > def append(url, pagename, text): > - request = RequestCLI(url=url, pagename=pagename) > + request = Request(url=url, pagename=pagename) > editor = PageEditor(request, pagename) > + if editor_email: > + if not get_by_email_address(request,editor_email): > + raise Exception, 'No MoinMoin user found with email > address ' + editor_email > + request.user = get_by_email_address(request,editor_email) > text = editor.get_raw_body() + editor.normalizeText(text) > dummy, revision, exists = editor.get_rev() > return editor.saveText(text, revision) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks. -- Barry Cornelius Oxford University Computing Services University of Oxford, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK www.barrycornelius.com 01865 273267 or +44 1865 273267 From rb.proj at gmail.com Wed Nov 12 10:04:37 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:04:37 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Is BadContent being updated? In-Reply-To: <20081112124305.GA29318@karhide> References: <20081112124305.GA29318@karhide> Message-ID: Barry Cornelius schrieb: > We are using the "AntiSpamGlobalSolution" described at > http://moinmo.in/AntiSpamGlobalSolution > Our BadContent file has not been updated since 26th October. > When this has failed in the past, it has been because an IP > address has changed or one of our firewalls has been altered. > > Before I investigate these possibilities, can you please confirm > whether the master BadContent is being updated. I see that: > http://moinmo.in/BadContent > was last updated at about the same time. > > Thanks. > Well no new entry since 2008-10-26 00:10:54 see http://master.moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/BadContent?action=info cheers Reimar From kentsin at yahoo.com Wed Nov 12 10:13:43 2008 From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:13:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] option to run moinmoin in windows? Message-ID: <157380.11212.qm@web37508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Since standalone is gone with 1.8, what is the suggested platform for install moinmoin for a windows personal server? Is lighttpd still work? Which part of the moinmoin is out-dated? Since my desktop is slow, I would like to have a most light weight way to install moinmoin. Thanks in advance. Thank you for reading this also. Kent. From Dennis.Benzinger at gmx.net Wed Nov 12 10:22:56 2008 From: Dennis.Benzinger at gmx.net (Dennis Benzinger) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:22:56 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] option to run moinmoin in windows? In-Reply-To: <157380.11212.qm@web37508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <157380.11212.qm@web37508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <491AF4D0.4000702@gmx.net> Hi Kent! Am 12.11.2008 16:13, kent sin schrieb: > Since standalone is gone with 1.8, what is the suggested platform for install moinmoin for a windows personal server? > [...] What do you mean by standalone is gone? You can still start MoinMoin by simply running wikiserver.py . HTH, Dennis Benzinger From rb.proj at gmail.com Wed Nov 12 10:29:19 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:29:19 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] option to run moinmoin in windows? In-Reply-To: <157380.11212.qm@web37508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <157380.11212.qm@web37508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: kent sin schrieb: > Since standalone is gone with 1.8, what is the suggested platform for install moinmoin for a windows personal server? It is not gone it is builtin just go into the mainlevel dir and invoke ./wikiserver.py that's all. Of yourse you need to install python on windows. Reimar > > Is lighttpd still work? Which part of the moinmoin is out-dated? > > Since my desktop is slow, I would like to have a most light weight way to install moinmoin. > > Thanks in advance. > > Thank you for reading this also. > > Kent. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ From lnr at qad.com Wed Nov 12 16:02:11 2008 From: lnr at qad.com (Linda Rose) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:02:11 -0800 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin-user Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Reimar, Version 1.8. I was doing title searches and full text searches. What is xapian? Thanks, Linda Hi Linda what is your Moin version (SystemInfo) how do you search e.g. by xapian? Reimar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Nov 13 03:02:43 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:02:43 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Added attachment lacking in Recent Changes In-Reply-To: <18DDE1A5-550B-4244-BF67-B4CD1CBCDC66@gmx.de> References: <18DDE1A5-550B-4244-BF67-B4CD1CBCDC66@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1226563363.15097.5.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > after having switched to 1.8.0, in two cases adding an attachment to a > page (two different attachments, two different pages) was NOT > reflected in the history under Recent Changes. Other added attachments > do show up there. The files are uploaded, stored correctly. Just > unknown to RecentChanges. > > The observed behaviour seems not predictably repeatable. It'a a local > wiki, few users. > > Anyone else experiencing this? No. Please check these things: data/edit-log - is there an entry for this attachment (ATTNEW)? (I suspect there is not, otherwise it would be visible on RecentChanges) data/pages/PageName/edit-log - same question (see also info action of that page) - is it logged there? Moin usually adds (same) entries to both logs. Do you use NFS? Windows? Anything special in Moin's log from the time when the attachment happened? From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Nov 13 03:13:39 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:13:39 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin search In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1226564019.15097.15.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > When I do a title search, it doesn't find the string, even though the > string is a heading in the wiki TableOfContents. That's a misunderstanding. "title" in that context means the page name (also visible as part of the URL), not the different headings in the wiki content. > When I do a full-text search, it takes forever and I finally just stop > it. I have a LOT of content on this wiki-probably roughly equivalent > to 10,000 printed pages. Then you should rather use Xapian based indexed search (much faster for big wikis, can also search attachments and history). See the help page about it. But be warned: indexed search will only find stuff that was put into the index. For example, if your page has the content "This is completely FooBar.", then Xapian will happily find: * this * is * complete * completely * foo * Bar * foobar But it will likely NOT find: * his * omple * oo * oba This is because the tokenizer that splits the content into pieces before putting those pieces into the index does the splitting at different kind of boundaries, usually blanks, punctuation and CamelCase word boundaries. A good ideas when you setup xapian search is to delete / rebuild the index at some time when nobody uses the wiki. Moin also does dynamic updates of the index, but don't rely on that over long periods of time. You are also strongly advised to use a recent moin version (1.8.0, or 1.7.2 if you don't use gui editor). From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Nov 13 03:20:49 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:20:49 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Is BadContent being updated? In-Reply-To: <20081112124305.GA29318@karhide> References: <20081112124305.GA29318@karhide> Message-ID: <1226564449.15097.22.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 12:43 +0000, Barry Cornelius wrote: > We are using the "AntiSpamGlobalSolution" described at > http://moinmo.in/AntiSpamGlobalSolution > Our BadContent file has not been updated since 26th October. > When this has failed in the past, it has been because an IP > address has changed or one of our firewalls has been altered. > > Before I investigate these possibilities, can you please confirm > whether the master BadContent is being updated. I see that: > http://moinmo.in/BadContent > was last updated at about the same time. See Reimar's post for correct URL of the BadContent master copy. Just as an additional note: BadContent lives from the moin community updating it. I.E. if you see spam on your wiki, don't simply delete/revert it, but generate patterns from it and put it onto the master BadContent page. Until about a year ago, I personally was very active doing this and entered all spam I found on our wiki sites. But, since running moin 1.6.0 (also applies for 1.7 and 1.8 now), we get about zero spam due to the use of textchas. Therefore, I have nothing to update the master BadContent, so all users still using some old moin version (or a new moin without textchas enabled) need to do this themselves and update the BadContent master copy. From barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk Thu Nov 13 03:51:40 2008 From: barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Barry Cornelius) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:51:40 +0000 Subject: [Moin-user] Is BadContent being updated? In-Reply-To: <1226564449.15097.22.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> References: <20081112124305.GA29318@karhide> <1226564449.15097.22.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: <20081113085140.GA3612@karhide> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 09:20:49AM +0100, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > Until about a year ago, I personally was very active doing this and > entered all spam I found on our wiki sites. But, since running moin > 1.6.0 (also applies for 1.7 and 1.8 now), we get about zero spam due to > the use of textchas. OK. Thanks. -- Barry Cornelius Oxford University Computing Services University of Oxford, 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK www.barrycornelius.com 01865 273267 or +44 1865 273267 From gerg.ward+moin at gmail.com Thu Nov 13 11:31:37 2008 From: gerg.ward+moin at gmail.com (Greg Ward) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:31:37 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin-user Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20081113163137.GB13077@intelerad.com> On 12 November 2008, Linda Rose said: > Version 1.8. I was doing title searches and full text searches. > > What is xapian? STFW: http://www.google.com/search?q=xapian Greg From mail at heavy.ch Thu Nov 13 14:00:23 2008 From: mail at heavy.ch (Mail@Heavy.ch) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:00:23 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin-user Digest, Vol 30, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <491C7947.9090609@heavy.ch> Linda Rose schrieb: > Hi Reimar, > > Version 1.8. I was doing title searches and full text searches. > > What is xapian? Look in your MoinMoin: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnXapian bye Marcel From skip at pobox.com Thu Nov 13 15:54:08 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:54:08 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] problem after Ubuntu upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid Message-ID: <18716.37872.734437.641311@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> I upgraded a basically pristine Ubuntu Hardy box to Intrepid this afternoon to get at a MoinMoin version > 1.5.x. So now I have 1.7.1: # apt-cache show python-moinmoin Package: python-moinmoin Priority: optional Section: python Installed-Size: 23164 Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers Original-Maintainer: Jonas Smedegaard Architecture: all Source: moin Version: 1.7.1-1ubuntu1 ... However, a simple little smoketest fails: # python Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Oct 5 2008, 19:24:49) [GCC 4.3.2] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import MoinMoin >>> import MoinMoin.macro 2008-11-13 13:52:08,206 WARNING MoinMoin.log:120 using logging configuration read from built-in fallback in MoinMoin.log module! Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/MoinMoin/macro/__init__.py", line 51, in class Macro: File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/MoinMoin/macro/__init__.py", line 79, in Macro for lang in i18n.wikiLanguages(): TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable How do I get around this problem without going outside the Ubuntu package management environment? Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://smontanaro.dyndns.org/ From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Thu Nov 13 19:54:04 2008 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:54:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] problem after 15 to 1.7 upgrade - Was: after Ubuntu upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid In-Reply-To: <18716.37872.734437.641311@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <497620.47003.qm@web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 11/13/08, skip at pobox.com wrote: > to get at a MoinMoin version > 1.5.x. So now I have > 1.7.1: > However, a simple little smoketest fails: > > # python > Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Oct 5 2008, 19:24:49) > [GCC 4.3.2] on linux2 > Type "help", "copyright", > "credits" or "license" for more > information. > >>> import MoinMoin > >>> import MoinMoin.macro > 2008-11-13 13:52:08,206 WARNING MoinMoin.log:120 using > logging configuration > read from built-in fallback in MoinMoin.log module! > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/MoinMoin/macro/__init__.py", > line > 51, in > class Macro: > File > "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/MoinMoin/macro/__init__.py", > line > 79, in Macro > for lang in i18n.wikiLanguages(): > TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable > > How do I get around this problem without going outside the > Ubuntu package > management environment? I think that after 1.6.0, there is a new parameter required in wikiconfig.py: language_default = 'en' Roger Haase From skip at pobox.com Thu Nov 13 20:09:02 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:09:02 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] problem after 15 to 1.7 upgrade - Was: after Ubuntu upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid In-Reply-To: <497620.47003.qm@web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <18716.37872.734437.641311@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> <497620.47003.qm@web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <18716.53166.504421.275483@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Roger> I think that after 1.6.0, there is a new parameter required in Roger> wikiconfig.py: Roger> language_default = 'en' Thanks, but notice that I'm not even at the point where a wikiconfig.py file comes into play. I'm just trying to import modules from the MoinMoin package at the interpreter prompt. Maybe the default return value for MoinMoin.i18n.wikiLanguages() should be an empty list instead of None. Skip From mwood23 at gmail.com Fri Nov 14 18:54:51 2008 From: mwood23 at gmail.com (Matthew W) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:54:51 -0800 Subject: [Moin-user] template links seems to be missing after update Message-ID: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> Hi all-- I recently updated from 1.6.1 to 1.8.0. Everything seems fine except that now the links to the page templates are all missing when one tries to create a new page. Here's a screenshot: http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4226/notemplatesai1.png I did the install from the 1.8.0 src distro. I did the htdocs overwrite. I did the migration script. I did the cgi script update. I did the underlay overwrite, and I did the moin maint cleancache. And of course I've restarted apache a few times :) But I just can't seem to get the links to the page templates to appear. Nothing of note shows up in the apache error logs. I guess I'm just out of ideas on what to check next. Could someone offer some advice? thanks! -Matt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com Fri Nov 14 19:03:30 2008 From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:03:30 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] template links seems to be missing after update In-Reply-To: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811141603h1866d9b0ta10665f37ed4153d@mail.gmail.com> You may need to specify the underlay directory in your wikiconfig.py file: data_underlay_dir = r'path to directory' -Rick On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Matthew W wrote: > Hi all-- > > I recently updated from 1.6.1 to 1.8.0. Everything seems fine except that > now the links to the page templates are all missing when one tries to create > a new page. Here's a screenshot: > > http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4226/notemplatesai1.png > > I did the install from the 1.8.0 src distro. I did the htdocs overwrite. I > did the migration script. I did the cgi script update. I did the underlay > overwrite, and I did the moin maint cleancache. And of course I've > restarted apache a few times :) > > But I just can't seem to get the links to the page templates to appear. > Nothing of note shows up in the apache error logs. I guess I'm just out of > ideas on what to check next. 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URL: From mwood23 at gmail.com Fri Nov 14 19:14:19 2008 From: mwood23 at gmail.com (Matthew W) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:14:19 -0800 Subject: [Moin-user] template links seems to be missing after update In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0811141603h1866d9b0ta10665f37ed4153d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> <5c39e1ca0811141603h1866d9b0ta10665f37ed4153d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2716488c0811141614y3a78520dx8c84b0fc90c51b6d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Rick- thanks for the note! well yeah that was something I did the first time I installed... nothing ever worked right without those absolute paths set in wikiconfig.py :) this is what I have there... # Where your mutable wiki pages are. You want to make regular # backups of this directory. data_dir = '/usr/local/wiki/share/moin/nemowiki/data/' # Where read-only system and help page are. You might want to share # this directory between several wikis. When you update MoinMoin, # you can safely replace the underlay directory with a new one. This # directory is part of MoinMoin distribution, you don't have to # backup it. data_underlay_dir = '/usr/local/wiki/share/moin/nemowiki/underlay/' On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Rick Vanderveer wrote: > > You may need to specify the underlay directory in your wikiconfig.py file: > > data_underlay_dir = r'path to directory' > > -Rick > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Matthew W wrote: >> >> Hi all-- >> >> I recently updated from 1.6.1 to 1.8.0. Everything seems fine except that now the links to the page templates are all missing when one tries to create a new page. Here's a screenshot: >> >> http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4226/notemplatesai1.png >> >> I did the install from the 1.8.0 src distro. I did the htdocs overwrite. I did the migration script. I did the cgi script update. I did the underlay overwrite, and I did the moin maint cleancache. And of course I've restarted apache a few times :) >> >> But I just can't seem to get the links to the page templates to appear. Nothing of note shows up in the apache error logs. I guess I'm just out of ideas on what to check next. Could someone offer some advice? thanks! >> >> -Matt >> >> > From tw-public at gmx.de Sat Nov 15 03:13:08 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:13:08 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] template links seems to be missing after update In-Reply-To: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1226736788.6139.1.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > I recently updated from 1.6.1 to 1.8.0. Everything seems fine except > that now the links to the page templates are all missing If you still have the old page_*_regex in your config, just remove them. See docs/CHANGES for more details. From rb.proj at gmail.com Sat Nov 15 05:05:37 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:05:37 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] template links seems to be missing after update In-Reply-To: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi check the configuration by creating a page and adding <>. The superuser get's the config vars shown which are different from the default settings. This page is also later on usefull. If you have your old page_*_regex settings Thomas mentioned already then you likely missed to read the HINT lines in doc/CHANGES. cheers Reimar Matthew W schrieb: > Hi all-- > > I recently updated from 1.6.1 to 1.8.0. Everything seems fine except that > now the links to the page templates are all missing when one tries to create > a new page. Here's a screenshot: > > http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4226/notemplatesai1.png > > I did the install from the 1.8.0 src distro. I did the htdocs overwrite. I > did the migration script. I did the cgi script update. I did the underlay > overwrite, and I did the moin maint cleancache. And of course I've > restarted apache a few times :) > > But I just can't seem to get the links to the page templates to appear. > Nothing of note shows up in the apache error logs. I guess I'm just out of > ideas on what to check next. Could someone offer some advice? thanks! > > -Matt > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From skip at pobox.com Sat Nov 15 15:14:05 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:14:05 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] ACLs no longer work after upgrade from 1.5 to 1.7 Message-ID: <18719.11661.508344.343587@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> The Python wiki was upgrade from 1.5.3 to 1.7.1 as a side effect of a Debian upgrade. The ACLs no longer work. For example, there is an AdminGroup page: http://wiki.python.org/moin/AdminGroup of which I am a member (SkipMontanaro). I'm logged in yet Moin marks the page as immutable. Same for several other key pages. I took a look at the main.py script for the old and new versions but found little different: # diff -u {instances,instances_1.5}/main.py --- instances/main.py 2008-11-15 11:14:27.000000000 +0100 +++ instances_1.5/main.py 2007-12-27 13:15:11.000000000 +0100 @@ -74,7 +74,7 @@ # Link spam protection for public wikis (Uncomment to enable) # Needs a reliable internet connection. - from MoinMoin.security.antispam import SecurityPolicy + from MoinMoin.util.antispam import SecurityPolicy # Mail -------------------------------------------------------------- In particular, ACLs are enabled: # egrep acl instances/main.py # Enable acl (0 to disable) acl_enabled = 1 acl_rights_before = u"BlockedUsersGroup: AdminGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin" Any suggestions about where to look for clues to this mystery? Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://smontanaro.dyndns.org/ From skip at pobox.com Sat Nov 15 19:22:13 2008 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:22:13 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] How to convert Moin markup to Creole? Message-ID: <18719.26549.201337.945584@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> I see that Moin has a CreoleParser and that it's possible to make Creole the default markup. Is it possible to convert a large number of pages in Moin markup format to Creole? A bit of googling didn't turn anything up. Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://smontanaro.dyndns.org/ From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Nov 17 00:56:46 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:56:46 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] ACLs no longer work after upgrade from 1.5 to 1.7 In-Reply-To: <18719.11661.508344.343587@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> References: <18719.11661.508344.343587@montanaro-dyndns-org.local> Message-ID: <1226901406.6053.1.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > Any suggestions about where to look for clues to this mystery? docs/CHANGES, as usual. You likely need to remove your old page_*_regex settings. From waqas805 at hotmail.com Mon Nov 17 10:56:43 2008 From: waqas805 at hotmail.com (waqas ahmad) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:43 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Embeded Video and svg images Message-ID: Hi, I want to show some movies and svg images on moinmoin pages. Can some body tell me how i can do this. I m using moinmoin 1.7. and i tried to put some video files on pages but page show only window media player but doesnt play the video. I changed my wikiconfig.py also regarding this document.(http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnMacros/EmbedObject). but i cant play video on pages. i see only the window media player on page. you can also mail me here. waqas805 at hotmail.com. I shall be thankful to you really. bye _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Then, once raw.py is installed, you can paste in some code like this: {{{ #!raw }}} Help this helps... -Rick On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:56 AM, waqas ahmad wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I want to show some movies and svg images on moinmoin pages. Can some body > tell me how i can do this. > > I m using moinmoin 1.7. > > and i tried to put some video files on pages but page show only window > media player but doesnt play the video. > > I changed my wikiconfig.py also regarding this document.( > http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnMacros/EmbedObject). > > but i cant play video on pages. i see only the window media player on page. > > > you can also mail me here. waqas805 at hotmail.com. > > I shall be thankful to you really. > > bye > > > > ------------------------------ > Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From newz at bearfruit.org Mon Nov 17 12:16:08 2008 From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:16:08 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Embeded Video and svg images In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0811170855n11180ed6i1bf5f603327351e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c39e1ca0811170855n11180ed6i1bf5f603327351e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Rick Vanderveer wrote: > Hey Waqas, > After struggling for a long time, we were never able to get the EmbedObject > macro to work reliably or predictably. We finally gave up and just escape > to raw html. You need to download a 'raw' parser, as the built-in html > parser doesn't allow full media control. This is fine for internal-only > wiki's like ours, but if your wiki is public-facing it is highly advised not > to use the raw macro (since a knowledgeable user can use it to write > virtually any code they want, which can be dangerous). Creating macros isn't hard, so instead of using RAW another option is to just create a macro that accepts a single param (the url to the media file) and then writes the necessary HTML. If you suitably check/sanitize the URL then it should be safe for public wikis too. Better yet would be to accept a relative url and let your macro prepend the domain name. Someone in my company wrote a macro like this for displaying graphs. My concern with the RAW, even in a closed wiki, isn't necessarily malicious users but clueless/naive users. It's the age-old "blunt instrument" analogy. Soon you'll your users putting tags in your wiki. :-/ -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode From mwood23 at gmail.com Mon Nov 17 13:00:39 2008 From: mwood23 at gmail.com (Matthew W) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:00:39 -0800 Subject: [Moin-user] template links seems to be missing after update In-Reply-To: <1226736788.6139.1.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> References: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> <1226736788.6139.1.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: <2716488c0811171000r788f8a87l47bd267c11868827@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Thomas Waldmann wrote: >> I recently updated from 1.6.1 to 1.8.0. Everything seems fine except >> that now the links to the page templates are all missing > > If you still have the old page_*_regex in your config, just remove them. > See docs/CHANGES for more details. > ok bottom-replying this time! :) Thanks, Thomas, that was it! Sorry I didn't pore over the Changes doc more carefully. I notice that one previous regex line wasn't in the newly-generated wikiconfig.py, the one for 'Form' : page_form_regex = u'[a-z]Form$' Is that invocation obsolete now? From sunlist at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 14:24:31 2008 From: sunlist at yahoo.com (mailing list) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:24:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup Message-ID: <593441.82434.qm@web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Moin 1.8.0 on Linux. I keep getting the "FATAL ERROR..." is there a way to startup moin just to "test drive" it? I've gone through the wikiconfig.py and left it untouch as I just wanted a moin site up to try it out. What other subcommand do I need besides the "--config-dir" option? Thanks. # moin --config-dir=/usr/local/share/moin/config/ usage: moin [command] [general options] command subcommand [specific options] options: --version show program's version number and exit -q, --quiet Be quiet (no informational messages) --show-timing Show timing values [default: False] --config-dir=DIR Path to the directory containing the wiki configuration files. [default: current directory] --wiki-url=WIKIURL URL of a single wiki to migrate e.g. localhost/mywiki/ [default: CLI] --page=PAGE wiki page name [default: all pages] FATAL ERROR: You must specify a command module and name: moin ... account check ... moin ... account create ... moin ... account disable ... moin ... account resetpw ... moin ... cli show ... moin ... export dump ... moin ... import irclog ... moin ... index build ... moin ... maint cleancache ... moin ... maint cleanpage ... moin ... maint globaledit ... moin ... maint makecache ... moin ... maint mkpagepacks ... moin ... maint reducewiki ... moin ... migration data ... moin ... server standalone ... moin ... xmlrpc mailimport ... moin ... xmlrpc remote ... General options: Most commands need some general parameters before command subcommand: --config-dir=/config/directory Mandatory for most commands and specifies the directory that contains your wikiconfig.py (or farmconfig.py). --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ Mandatory for most commands and specifies the url of the wiki you like to operate on. Specific options: Most commands need additional parameters after command subcommand. To obtain additonal help on a command use 'moin module subcommand --help' From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Nov 17 15:09:57 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:09:57 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] template links seems to be missing after update In-Reply-To: <2716488c0811171000r788f8a87l47bd267c11868827@mail.gmail.com> References: <2716488c0811141554p38c8ab1dlc12fc77c9eb9610a@mail.gmail.com> <1226736788.6139.1.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> <2716488c0811171000r788f8a87l47bd267c11868827@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1226952597.6576.1.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > > If you still have the old page_*_regex in your config, just remove them. > > See docs/CHANGES for more details. > Thanks, Thomas, that was it! Sorry I didn't pore over the Changes doc > more carefully. I notice that one previous regex line wasn't in the > newly-generated wikiconfig.py, the one for 'Form' : > > page_form_regex = u'[a-z]Form$' > > > Is that invocation obsolete now? I guess the form regex was never really used / useful. From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Nov 17 15:11:43 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:11:43 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup In-Reply-To: <593441.82434.qm@web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <593441.82434.qm@web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1226952703.6576.3.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 11:24 -0800, mailing list wrote: > Moin 1.8.0 on Linux. I keep getting the "FATAL ERROR..." is there a way to startup moin just to "test drive" it? Download, unpack, start ./wikiserver.py, enjoy! :) From sunlist at yahoo.com Mon Nov 17 15:28:39 2008 From: sunlist at yahoo.com (mailing list) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:28:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup In-Reply-To: <1226952703.6576.3.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: <318951.12682.qm@web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > Download, unpack, start ./wikiserver.py, enjoy! :) I'm just getting a blank page when pointing to x.x.x.x:8080 (iptables is off). Should I see a "Moin" logo or some sort of wiki, etc.? Thanks. Mike From mail at heavy.ch Mon Nov 17 17:42:39 2008 From: mail at heavy.ch (Mail@Heavy.ch) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:42:39 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Embeded Video and svg images In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4921F35F.5020005@heavy.ch> Hi There > > and i tried to put some video files on pages but page show only window media player but doesnt play the video. > > I changed my wikiconfig.py also regarding this document.(http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnMacros/EmbedObject). > > but i cant play video on pages. i see only the window media player on page. Well I'm using also this macro with my Firefox and Video Player (Totem) and it works flawless (for normal avi files). Syntax is like: <> But I know that it can be pain, because I guess some browsers and some media plugins (maybe Microsoft?) just sucks! Because of this I would thinking about using a macro that integrate/use a simple flash video player like this one http://www.video-flash.de/flv-flash-fullscreen-video-player/. The drawback is that, the user would need flash and he can not anymore choose how he would like to play the video file. but it would work I guess. bye Marcel From rb.proj at gmail.com Mon Nov 17 18:58:58 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:58:58 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Embeded Video and svg images In-Reply-To: References: <5c39e1ca0811170855n11180ed6i1bf5f603327351e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Matthew Nuzum schrieb: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Rick Vanderveer > wrote: >> Hey Waqas, >> After struggling for a long time, we were never able to get the EmbedObject >> macro to work reliably or predictably. We finally gave up and just escape >> to raw html. You need to download a 'raw' parser, as the built-in html >> parser doesn't allow full media control. This is fine for internal-only >> wiki's like ours, but if your wiki is public-facing it is highly advised not >> to use the raw macro (since a knowledgeable user can use it to write >> virtually any code they want, which can be dangerous). > > Creating macros isn't hard, so instead of using RAW another option is > to just create a macro that accepts a single param (the url to the > media file) and then writes the necessary HTML. If you suitably > check/sanitize the URL then it should be safe for public wikis too. If this doessn't work for you <> please file a bug report cheers Reimar > > Better yet would be to accept a relative url and let your macro > prepend the domain name. Someone in my company wrote a macro like this > for displaying graphs. > > My concern with the RAW, even in a closed wiki, isn't necessarily > malicious users but clueless/naive users. It's the age-old "blunt > instrument" analogy. Soon you'll your users putting tags in > your wiki. :-/ > From rb.proj at gmail.com Mon Nov 17 19:05:24 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:05:24 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup In-Reply-To: <318951.12682.qm@web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <1226952703.6576.3.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> <318951.12682.qm@web63808.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: mailing list schrieb: > --- On Mon, 11/17/08, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > >> Download, unpack, start ./wikiserver.py, enjoy! :) > > I'm just getting a blank page when pointing to x.x.x.x:8080 (iptables is off). Should I see a "Moin" logo or some sort of wiki, etc.? Thanks. > > > Mike Download from http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload unpack cd moin-1.8.0 ./wikiserver.py point your browser to 127.0.0.1:8080 which browser? Do you have toggled into offline mode? cheers Reimar > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ From waqas805 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 18 03:26:07 2008 From: waqas805 at hotmail.com (waqas ahmad) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:26:07 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] expired pages and versionHandling In-Reply-To: <4921F35F.5020005@heavy.ch> References: <4921F35F.5020005@heavy.ch> Message-ID: Hi, can moinmoin show the pages after a some time limit automatic that it expired? For example, I create one page and i want to make changes in this page after some time (maybe after 6 months), there is any option that give me reminder, that, this page is expired and i should make changes in it. or it will give me some warning that this page expired on 10.10.2010. Because after a long time maybe after one year, i have created lot of pages and i dont know which pages have to refersh . if there is any option that show me expire date with page_list then it would also very helpful for me. The problem is that i have lot of pages for different product version in moinmoin. some have needs to refersh them and some are valid for some version.maybe it look like this. PageList ExpiredDate ProductValidVersionTestPage 10.10.2009 IE6,IE7,... Testpage2 11.12.2910 TestPage3 09.01.2009 IS6,IE7 if there is any way to solve this then please help me. I shall be thankful to you. have a nice day, Best Regards, Waqas Ahmad (waqas805 at hotmail.com) _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rb.proj at gmail.com Tue Nov 18 03:55:05 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:55:05 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] expired pages and versionHandling In-Reply-To: References: <4921F35F.5020005@heavy.ch> Message-ID: waqas ahmad schrieb: > > Hi, can moinmoin show the pages after a some time limit automatic that it expired? For example, I create one page and i want to make changes in this page after some time (maybe after 6 months), there is any option that give me reminder, that, this page is expired and i should make changes in it. or it will give me some warning that this page expired on 10.10.2010. Because after a long time maybe after one year, i have created lot of pages and i dont know which pages have to refersh . if there is any option that show me expire date with page_list then it would also very helpful for me. The problem is that i have lot of pages for different product version in moinmoin. some have needs to refersh them and some are valid for some version.maybe it look like this. PageList ExpiredDate ProductValidVersionTestPage 10.10.2009 IE6,IE7,... Testpage2 11.12.2910 TestPage3 09.01.2009 IS6,IE7 > > > if there is any way to solve this then please help me. I shall be thankful to you. > have a nice day, Best Regards, Waqas Ahmad (waqas805 at hotmail.com) e.g. You can patch PageEditor for example diff -r f414aece63e0 MoinMoin/PageEditor.py --- a/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py Tue Nov 11 22:00:33 2008 +0100 +++ b/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py Tue Nov 18 09:47:31 2008 +0100 @@ -775,7 +775,8 @@ 'USERNAME': signature, 'USER': "-- %s" % signature, 'SIG': "-- %s <>" % (signature, now), - 'EMAIL': "<>" % (obfuscated_email_address) + 'EMAIL': "<>" % (obfuscated_email_address), + 'TBC': "CategoryDate%s" % (now.split('T')[0].replace('-','')) } then you can add a Category with a timestring into any page you edit by @TBC@ cheers Reimar > _________________________________________________________________ > Explore the seven wonders of the world > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From rb.proj at gmail.com Tue Nov 18 07:06:30 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:06:30 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] expired pages and versionHandling In-Reply-To: References: <4921F35F.5020005@heavy.ch> Message-ID: R.Bauer schrieb: > waqas ahmad schrieb: >> Hi, can moinmoin show the pages after a some time limit automatic that it expired? For example, I create one page and i want to make changes in this page after some time (maybe after 6 months), there is any option that give me reminder, that, this page is expired and i should make changes in it. or it will give me some warning that this page expired on 10.10.2010. Because after a long time maybe after one year, i have created lot of pages and i dont know which pages have to refersh . if there is any option that show me expire date with page_list then it would also very helpful for me. The problem is that i have lot of pages for different product version in moinmoin. some have needs to refersh them and some are valid for some version.maybe it look like this. PageList ExpiredDate > ProductValidVersionTestPage 10.10.2009 IE6,IE7,... Testpage2 11.12.2910 TestPage3 09.01.2009 IS6,IE7 >> >> >> if there is any way to solve this then please help me. I shall be thankful to you. >> have a nice day, Best Regards, Waqas Ahmad (waqas805 at hotmail.com) > > > e.g. > You can patch PageEditor for example > > diff -r f414aece63e0 MoinMoin/PageEditor.py > --- a/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py Tue Nov 11 22:00:33 2008 +0100 > +++ b/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py Tue Nov 18 09:47:31 2008 +0100 > @@ -775,7 +775,8 @@ > 'USERNAME': signature, > 'USER': "-- %s" % signature, > 'SIG': "-- %s <>" % (signature, now), > - 'EMAIL': "<>" % (obfuscated_email_address) > + 'EMAIL': "<>" % (obfuscated_email_address), > + 'TBC': "CategoryDate%s" % (now.split('T')[0].replace('-','')) > } > > then you can add a Category with a timestring into any page you edit by > @TBC@ > > cheers > Reimar > > you can write a macro which collects the pages dependent of the category and did format the results by widget.browser. cheers Reimar From sunlist at yahoo.com Tue Nov 18 10:03:48 2008 From: sunlist at yahoo.com (mailing list) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:03:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <776200.35312.qm@web63804.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 11/17/08, R.Bauer wrote: > > > >> Download, unpack, start ./wikiserver.py, enjoy! :) > > > > I'm just getting a blank page when pointing to > x.x.x.x:8080 (iptables is off). Should I see a > "Moin" logo or some sort of wiki, etc.? Thanks. > > > > > > Mike > Download from http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload > unpack > cd moin-1.8.0 > ./wikiserver.py > > point your browser to 127.0.0.1:8080 > > which browser? Do you have toggled into offline mode? I need for others to access the installation to try out the new features as well, just not for myself. I can get to 127.0.0.1:8080 on the same box, but I need for outside access as well. I already dropped the firewall/iptables. Anything else I need to do to allow others to test drive Moin? Thanks. Mike From rb.proj at gmail.com Tue Nov 18 10:27:58 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:27:58 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup In-Reply-To: <776200.35312.qm@web63804.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <776200.35312.qm@web63804.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: mailing list schrieb: > --- On Mon, 11/17/08, R.Bauer wrote: > >>>> Download, unpack, start ./wikiserver.py, enjoy! :) >>> I'm just getting a blank page when pointing to >> x.x.x.x:8080 (iptables is off). Should I see a >> "Moin" logo or some sort of wiki, etc.? Thanks. >>> >>> Mike >> Download from http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload >> unpack >> cd moin-1.8.0 >> ./wikiserver.py >> >> point your browser to 127.0.0.1:8080 >> >> which browser? Do you have toggled into offline mode? > > I need for others to access the installation to try out the new features as well, just not for myself. I can get to 127.0.0.1:8080 on the same box, but I need for outside access as well. I already dropped the firewall/iptables. Anything else I need to do to allow others to test drive Moin? > > Thanks. change wikiserverconfig.py #interface = 'localhost' to the interface you want use '' for all interface or "1.2.3.4" for some specific IP the Desktopedition is preconfigured for personal usage, you may want to change also wikiconfig.py cheers Reimar > > > Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ From sunlist at yahoo.com Tue Nov 18 14:02:19 2008 From: sunlist at yahoo.com (mailing list) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:02:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <413015.13876.qm@web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 11/18/08, R.Bauer wrote: > > --- On Mon, 11/17/08, R.Bauer > wrote: > > > >>>> Download, unpack, start ./wikiserver.py, > enjoy! :) > >>> I'm just getting a blank page when > pointing to > >> x.x.x.x:8080 (iptables is off). Should I see a > >> "Moin" logo or some sort of wiki, etc.? > Thanks. > >>> > >>> Mike > >> Download from http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload > >> unpack > >> cd moin-1.8.0 > >> ./wikiserver.py > >> > >> point your browser to 127.0.0.1:8080 > >> > >> which browser? Do you have toggled into offline > mode? > > > > I need for others to access the installation to try > out the new features as well, just not for myself. I can > get to 127.0.0.1:8080 on the same box, but I need for > outside access as well. I already dropped the > firewall/iptables. Anything else I need to do to allow > others to test drive Moin? > > > > Thanks. > > change > wikiserverconfig.py > > #interface = 'localhost' to the interface you want > use '' for all > interface or "1.2.3.4" for some specific IP > > the Desktopedition is preconfigured for personal usage, you > may want to > change also wikiconfig.py I can access 127.0.0.1:8080 but accessing x.x.x.x:8080 returns a blank page, even after changing the "interface" option to an IP or ''. (I restarted wikiserver.py and httpd to make certain). Mike From rb.proj at gmail.com Tue Nov 18 16:29:42 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:29:42 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Basic startup In-Reply-To: <413015.13876.qm@web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <413015.13876.qm@web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: mailing list schrieb: > --- On Tue, 11/18/08, R.Bauer wrote: > >>> --- On Mon, 11/17/08, R.Bauer >> wrote: >>>>>> Download, unpack, start ./wikiserver.py, >> enjoy! :) >>>>> I'm just getting a blank page when >> pointing to >>>> x.x.x.x:8080 (iptables is off). Should I see a >>>> "Moin" logo or some sort of wiki, etc.? >> Thanks. >>>>> Mike >>>> Download from http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload >>>> unpack >>>> cd moin-1.8.0 >>>> ./wikiserver.py >>>> >>>> point your browser to 127.0.0.1:8080 >>>> >>>> which browser? Do you have toggled into offline >> mode? >>> I need for others to access the installation to try >> out the new features as well, just not for myself. I can >> get to 127.0.0.1:8080 on the same box, but I need for >> outside access as well. I already dropped the >> firewall/iptables. Anything else I need to do to allow >> others to test drive Moin? >>> Thanks. >> change >> wikiserverconfig.py >> >> #interface = 'localhost' to the interface you want >> use '' for all >> interface or "1.2.3.4" for some specific IP >> >> the Desktopedition is preconfigured for personal usage, you >> may want to >> change also wikiconfig.py > > I can access 127.0.0.1:8080 but accessing x.x.x.x:8080 returns a blank page, even after changing the "interface" option to an IP or ''. (I restarted wikiserver.py and httpd to make certain). > > > Mike join us on #moin of chat.freenode.net. It is probably there easier to solve than using the mailing list. It looks like that you have changed the wrong file or do have an indenting mismatch. cheers Reimar > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ From waqas805 at hotmail.com Wed Nov 19 05:40:23 2008 From: waqas805 at hotmail.com (waqas ahmad) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:40:23 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] New page Message-ID: Hi, I am using default macro NewPage() on my pages. How I can change its NewPage "Page_name_bar". Because my every new page is a combination of three names. e.g:- Test 12.12.2008 pros (this is the name of my newpage). when i go to the create new page button. it shows only one long max="30" length name bar. i want to divide into three portions.but after i give the name, then it show one complete pagename. like Test 12.12.2008 pros . Example:-(its my Goal) page Date Info -------|-------|------- createPageButton when i click createPageButton, then it show me "page Date Info" as a new page name. It will be my new page (page Date Info). Please tell me how i can make parts of this single bar into three bars in NewPage macro. I shall be thankful to you. Best Regards, Waqas Ahmad _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. 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URL: From kramer at iram.es Wed Nov 19 08:59:15 2008 From: kramer at iram.es (Carsten Kramer) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:59:15 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] replace contents Message-ID: <49241BB3.5020700@iram.es> we were wondering whether it is possible to replace all occurrences of one word against another word. Thanks, Carsten From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com Wed Nov 19 11:08:45 2008 From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:08:45 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] NewPage GUI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811190808w7f5181dfle27e958f88e5a6c6@mail.gmail.com> There are two ways to do this: 1. For the individual user, they can set this as a preference within their account settings. 2. Globally, you can set the preferred editor within the wikiconfig.py file ('text' or 'gui'). So, you essentially set the GUI editor as the default editor for anyone that edits a page. See http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration#editor for details. -Rick On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:09 AM, waqas ahmad wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I am using default NewPage macro. when i click on create new page, then it > goes directly in TextEditor, is it possible that it goest directly in > GUI_editor. > > Thanks a lot. > > Have a nice day, > > take care > > bye and cu soon. > > > > ------------------------------ > Explore the seven wonders of the world Learn more! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had some answers which really helped me a lot. Here is the quick summary of the script that I used: ****************** import sys sys.path.insert(0, '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages') sys.path.insert(0, '/opt/mywiki/') sys.path.insert(0, '/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin') import urllib, sgmllib, re from MoinMoin.request.request_cli import Request from MoinMoin.user import get_by_email_address from MoinMoin.PageEditor import PageEditor from xml.dom import minidom as dom pagen = 'testpage3' textContent = "This is a automated test page." emailad = "olivier.lauret at googlemail.com" request = Request(url = 'localhost/mywiki', pagename = pagen) p = PageEditor(request, pagen) try: p.saveText(textContent, 0) except PageEditor.SaveError, e: print "Got %r" % (e, ) ********************** However, when I run this script, the page was created but instead of seeing the page, I was getting the following error inteh browser: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/opt/mywiki/data/pages/testpage3/revisions/99999999' I found out why I had this error: I was running the script under root (cmd: "python myscript.py") and it was creating some files into MoinMoin havingn root as the owner. Therefore, the browser which was using the apache user couldn't have access to it. Solution: run the script under the apache user (cmd: sudo -u apache python myscript.py). You might need to replace apache by the user used by your httpd server such as www-data. Thank you Dylan and Reimar. Regards, Olivier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john_nowlan at carleton.ca Thu Nov 20 12:49:30 2008 From: john_nowlan at carleton.ca (John_Nowlan) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:49:30 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] moin --start on windows? (1.8) Message-ID: <53C341FE4EA0B744B5BB64CA5C708C8C0C2339@CCSEXB10.CUNET.CARLETON.CA> I'm trying to config daemonize moin on a windows box. I've been running moin 1.5.3 on a unix box. I can run standalone fine, but if I try: Edit wikiserver.py: sys.argv = ["moin.py", "server", "standalone", "--start"] Then: E:\moin\moin-1.8.0>e:\Python26\python wikiserver.py 2008-11-20 12:15:08,157 INFO MoinMoin.log:124 using logging configuration read f rom "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\wikiserverlogging.conf" Traceback (most recent call last): File "wikiserver.py", line 38, in MoinScript().run() File "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\MoinMoin\script\__init__.py", line 138, in run self.mainloop() File "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\MoinMoin\script\__init__.py", line 255, in mainloop plugin_class(args[2:], self.options).run() # all starts again there File "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\MoinMoin\script\__init__.py", line 138, in run self.mainloop() File "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\MoinMoin\script\server\standalone.py", line 129, in m ainloop daemon.do_start() File "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\MoinMoin\server\daemon.py", line 94, in do_start self.daemonize() File "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\MoinMoin\server\daemon.py", line 188, in daemonize if os.fork(): # launch child and... AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fork' Is this a bug? I do not see it listed at http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs I get the same thing when I try: E:\moin\wikis\add>e:\Python26\python moin --config-dir=e:\moin\wikis\add server standalone --docs=e:\moin\moin-1.8.0\wiki\htdocs --start Trying to run my own wiki instance. I assume this is a bug but am not confident with the file copying/setup I have done. Anyone know of a work around to put moin in daemon mode on windows, other than not use windows? I wanted to run moin standalone behind apache. Anyone running moin1.8 on windows using these other options that could work for me? Other options: - Wsgi mode with apache? - fcgi with apache - iis (how do I authenticate? Can use 'built in' authentication w\iis? Anyone doing ldap?) From mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de Thu Nov 20 14:19:32 2008 From: mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de (Mark Ziegler) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:19:32 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Updating tragedy with MoinMoin Message-ID: <200811202019.32157.mark.ziegler@rakekniven.de> Hello, I started using MoinMoin privatly in 2004 and installed it in the same year in our company. This list kept me addicted and so I read most postings and installed every update til 1.5.9. After reaching this version I was very disappointed about the updating description and stayed with it. Til then and now I used time to have a look at other wikis and their install and update mechanism and documentation. Two weeks ago we made a decision and two people migrated three moinmoin wikis to mediawiki and we are very happy with it. It was a hard work. We would have stayed with moinmoin but the documentation is not in good shape for my view. Developing a nice app is only one side of a coin. Users need good docs to stay up-to-date easily. I would like to say thank you for using your nice wiki for some years and getting support on this list without beeing ironic. Cheers, Mark From waqas805 at hotmail.com Fri Nov 21 03:20:15 2008 From: waqas805 at hotmail.com (waqas ahmad) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:20:15 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] FullSearchCached Message-ID: Hi, The following command in moinmoin_1.7 sometimes dont work. <> On some pages it works very fine and showing the all pages under category and sometimes it shows nothing. I am not understanding that it is bug in moinmoin or it is happing only with my moinmoin. and when i use only "<>" Then it show list of pages under category and also it shows the categoryGrf on same page. This look not professional. I want to see only list of pages related category . please guide me how i can use this command for better result. i shall be thankful to you. Best Regards, Waqas Ahmad _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rb.proj at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 03:53:55 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:53:55 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] FullSearchCached In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: waqas ahmad schrieb: > > > Hi, > > The following command in moinmoin_1.7 sometimes dont work. > > <> > On some pages it works very fine and showing the all pages under category and sometimes it shows nothing. I am not understanding that it is bug in moinmoin or it is happing only with my moinmoin. > cached means it is cached. Two options: clean the cache on demand by more action menu delete cache use the not cached version <> > and when i use only "<>" Then it show list of pages under category and also it shows the categoryGrf on same page. This look not professional. this usage does dipla the result of a full text search. > > I want to see only list of pages related category . please guide me how i can use this command for better result. i shall be thankful to you. > cheers Reimar > > Best Regards, > > Waqas Ahmad > _________________________________________________________________ > Explore the seven wonders of the world > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From martinmichel at gmx.de Fri Nov 21 04:57:53 2008 From: martinmichel at gmx.de (Martin Michel) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:57:53 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] DesktopEdition for small team Message-ID: <20081121095753.68780@gmx.net> Hello everybody, I'm new to MoinMoin and tested it at my linux system at home. Well, it looks very nice and now I want to start a wiki for my small team at work. We have Windows XP running with local administator rights and acces to network drives. I can imagine the following and want to hear your opinion whether it would be a good installation: - Each team member will install Python2.6 and moin1.8 as explaind in BasicInstallation - I move the moin1.8 folder to a network folder where only our team member have access to. - From here each team member can start the standalone server at his desktop with wikiserver.py and work with the wiki on the network drive Will this work? Or do you have a better idea? I know that the DesktopEdition is not intented for multiuser usage, but I do not want to involve the IT department for installing the wiki. They will probably not support such a straight-forward open source solution for our team. Does this way impose any security risks? Or functionality loss? 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All other members of your team can access the wiki by the url (ip-address/hostname) of that machine. cheers Reimar Martin Michel schrieb: > Hello everybody, > > I'm new to MoinMoin and tested it at my linux system at home. Well, it > looks very nice and now I want to start a wiki for my small team at work. > We have Windows XP running with local administator rights and acces to > network drives. I can imagine the following and want to hear your opinion > whether it would be a good installation: > > - Each team member will install Python2.6 and moin1.8 as explaind in > BasicInstallation > > - I move the moin1.8 folder to a network folder where only our team member > have access to. > > - From here each team member can start the standalone server at his desktop > with wikiserver.py and work with the wiki on the network drive > > Will this work? Or do you have a better idea? > > I know that the DesktopEdition is not intented for multiuser usage, but I > do not want to involve the IT department for installing the wiki. They will > probably not support such a straight-forward open source solution for our > team. > > Does this way impose any security risks? Or functionality loss? Which files > do I have to move to the network drive (I only want the necessary stuff on > the net drive) ? > > Thanks for answers, > > Martin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Nov 21 05:56:43 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:56:43 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] moin --start on windows? (1.8) In-Reply-To: <53C341FE4EA0B744B5BB64CA5C708C8C0C2339@CCSEXB10.CUNET.CARLETON.CA> References: <53C341FE4EA0B744B5BB64CA5C708C8C0C2339@CCSEXB10.CUNET.CARLETON.CA> Message-ID: <1227265003.6745.3.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > File "E:\moin\moin-1.8.0\MoinMoin\server\daemon.py", line 188, in > daemonize > if os.fork(): # launch child and... > AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'fork' Looks like windows does not support fork(). > Is this a bug? No, rather a missing feature on windows. > I wanted to run moin standalone behind apache. Why don't you simply use mod_wsgi? IIRC it doesn't support daemon mode on windows, but embedded mode should work. From rb.proj at gmail.com Fri Nov 21 07:18:13 2008 From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:18:13 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] DesktopEdition for small team In-Reply-To: References: <20081121095753.68780@gmx.net> Message-ID: R.Bauer schrieb: > Hi > you need only one system to start the DesktopEdition standalone > webserver and this system needs py >=2.3. > > The DesktopEdition configuration needs a bit changed to remove the > relaxed security settings for only one user. > That's only a few lines changed in wikiconfig.py > > In wikiserverconfig.py you have to change localhost to the ip address of > your computer. > > All other members of your team can access the wiki by the url > (ip-address/hostname) of that machine. > > > cheers > Reimar For configuration options please read HelpOnConfiguration e.g. DesktopEdition superuser acl_rights_default acl_rights_before if you like to discuss in a faster way than email please join us on irc chat.freenode.net #moin cheers Reimar From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Nov 21 09:46:57 2008 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:46:57 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Updating tragedy with MoinMoin In-Reply-To: <200811202019.32157.mark.ziegler@rakekniven.de> References: <200811202019.32157.mark.ziegler@rakekniven.de> Message-ID: <1227278817.16214.13.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de> > After reaching this version I was very disappointed about the updating > description and stayed with it. There are 2 additional, more verbose upgrading instructions linked directly from our download page (one from Rick, one from me). > Til then and now I used time to have a look > at other wikis and their install and update mechanism and documentation. The effort needed to do an upgrade depends on the amount of change that happens. Between 1.5 and 1.6, we changed a lot (same is true for 1.2/1.3). We don't do that massive changes often, but sometimes is it necessary to change to be able to improve. We will also change many things in the future. So for the upgrading, it won't be as easy as if you use a software that doesn't change that much. > Two weeks ago we made a decision and two people migrated three moinmoin wikis > to mediawiki and we are very happy with it. It was a hard work. I can imagine. X-) Did you use a good converter for your content? > We would have stayed with moinmoin but the documentation is not in good shape > for my view. Well, complaining doesn't help much. We need more people improving the docs. We also need more developers. More testers. More ... > I would like to say thank you for using your nice wiki for some years and > getting support on this list without beeing ironic. Thanks. :) Have fun with PHP. :P From mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de Fri Nov 21 10:51:35 2008 From: mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de (Mark Ziegler) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:51:35 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Updating tragedy with MoinMoin In-Reply-To: <1227278817.16214.13.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de> References: <200811202019.32157.mark.ziegler@rakekniven.de> <1227278817.16214.13.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: <200811211651.35402.mark.ziegler@rakekniven.de> Hello, > We will also change many things in the future. So for the upgrading, it > won't be as easy as if you use a software that doesn't change that much. Understood. > > Two weeks ago we made a decision and two people migrated three moinmoin > > wikis to mediawiki and we are very happy with it. It was a hard work. > > I can imagine. X-) Did you use a good converter for your content? Hmmh. Some scripts and Notepad++/Kate. Attachment had been a big part of the migration. And listing which have pictures and 
 text in it.

> > We would have stayed with moinmoin but the documentation is not in good
> > shape for my view.
>
> Well, complaining doesn't help much. We need more people improving the
> docs. We also need more developers. More testers. More ...
I know. Privatly I work a lot for kde and there is the same situation. We have 
superb devs but promotion and user support is missing man power.

Cheers,
Mark

-- 
MarkyMark listen to "Crematory - Wake Up (Live Revolution)



From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Nov 21 17:13:28 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:13:28 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.7.3 released  /  master wikis
Message-ID: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive and the
change log.

This is just a final maintenance release with all changes we did since
1.7.2, including updated system texts and master pages.

You should only use 1.7.3 if you have special reasons to not use 1.8.x -
for most users 1.8.x is the recommended release (1.8.0 includes many of
the fixes in 1.7.3, some will be in 1.8.1 later).


Language maintainers should please concentrate their activities on
master18 and master19 wikis now.

The master17 wiki will be switched to read-only now (future 1.7.x
releases, if there are any, will only contain major security fixes, no
i18n updates).

The master16 wiki will be switched off completely (use your local help
pages if you still use 1.6.x).





From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Fri Nov 21 23:31:18 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:31:18 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.7.3 released / master wikis
In-Reply-To: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Thomas,Just curious, what features are planned for Moin 1.9?

-Rick




On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Thomas Waldmann  wrote:

> See http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload for the release archive and the
> change log.
>
> This is just a final maintenance release with all changes we did since
> 1.7.2, including updated system texts and master pages.
>
> You should only use 1.7.3 if you have special reasons to not use 1.8.x -
> for most users 1.8.x is the recommended release (1.8.0 includes many of
> the fixes in 1.7.3, some will be in 1.8.1 later).
>
>
> Language maintainers should please concentrate their activities on
> master18 and master19 wikis now.
>
> The master17 wiki will be switched to read-only now (future 1.7.x
> releases, if there are any, will only contain major security fixes, no
> i18n updates).
>
> The master16 wiki will be switched off completely (use your local help
> pages if you still use 1.6.x).
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> challenge
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> prizes
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From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:02:09 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.9 - new deployment and new docs
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>


> Just curious, what features are planned for Moin 1.9?

In 1.9 we integrate the Summer of Code 2008 project of Florian Krupicka
(mentor: Armin Ronacher), which was about refactoring the moin core to
be a WSGI application (see http://wsgi.org/ ).

The new code replaces the previous request.* and server.* packages
within moin and the server adaptor scripts (all that existed to support
different types of servers like cgi, fastcgi, mod_python, twisted, ...)
with a core that just talks WSGI.

This will simplify maintenance and debugging of the moin code, because
everyone will (as far as moin is concerned) use the same WSGI code.

Some (python) servers meanwhile directly speak WSGI to python web apps,
some other servers (like apache) have wsgi support modules (mod_wsgi is
really great).

Other servers that do not (yet) support WSGI, will be supported by some
3rd party code we bundle with moin (flup and wsgiref code will support
cgi, fastcgi, scgi (new), ajp (new) and standalone).

mod_python support was dropped (it was a constant source of troubles and
no moin developer used it, so we are rather relieved about not having to
support it any more). For apache users mod_wsgi is a great replacement
of mod_python, that works far better, more secure and more comfortable.

Twisted support: we currently have nothing special for Twisted in moin
1.9. Maybe someone from the Twisted community can help us with this if
they need more than a moin WSGI app. I guess it could be done as a
generic Twisted -> WSGI middleware as flup does it for other servers.

Other servers: there is lots of activity in the python world to support
WSGI. So if you don't see your server supported (and you also don't want
to run CGI, that should work for every server), just browse through the
wsgi.org site and use google - maybe someone already has written some
nice middleware.

Docs: as you can imagine, the install docs need major changes due to
this. I already killed all old (en and de) install docs and server
specifics from the master19 wiki. They soon will be replaced by new
docs.

In the new docs, there will be some fundamental changes:
 * we will concrentrate on documenting moin (not web server
configuration, not server administration, not generic operating system
usage)
 * we will broadly document one kind of "easy, 5mins installation" of
moin - this is for desktop users, users in a hurry, moin newbies and for
users without (web) server admin knowledge. We already have that for
Linux, still searching someone doing it for Windows and Mac OS X.
 * for all other "server class" stuff, we will require server admin
knowledge and that for stuff like Linux, Apache, lighttpd, mod_wsgi,
flup, etc. you will just have to read THEIR docs. We'll briefly describe
the moin specifics and requirements.

We hope that we get some support from the moin community with testing
and improving of the new docs, so that users will be more satisfied with
our docs in future.

Language maintainers that did not yet remove the old install docs:
please do so (see the english pages).





From haase at msg.ucsf.edu  Sat Nov 22 09:49:02 2008
From: haase at msg.ucsf.edu (Sebastian Haase)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:49:02 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.9 - new deployment and new docs
In-Reply-To: <1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: 

Hi,
hoping that this is not off-topic - short question: if moin would run
as a WSGI app - will this help to somehow integrate a moin wiki into
an existing environment of Django applications ?
I guess I'm also thinking about user / login management and authentication ....

Thanks,
Sebastian Haase


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Thomas Waldmann  wrote:
>
>> Just curious, what features are planned for Moin 1.9?
>
> In 1.9 we integrate the Summer of Code 2008 project of Florian Krupicka
> (mentor: Armin Ronacher), which was about refactoring the moin core to
> be a WSGI application (see http://wsgi.org/ ).
>
> The new code replaces the previous request.* and server.* packages
> within moin and the server adaptor scripts (all that existed to support
> different types of servers like cgi, fastcgi, mod_python, twisted, ...)
> with a core that just talks WSGI.
>
> This will simplify maintenance and debugging of the moin code, because
> everyone will (as far as moin is concerned) use the same WSGI code.
>
> Some (python) servers meanwhile directly speak WSGI to python web apps,
> some other servers (like apache) have wsgi support modules (mod_wsgi is
> really great).
>
> Other servers that do not (yet) support WSGI, will be supported by some
> 3rd party code we bundle with moin (flup and wsgiref code will support
> cgi, fastcgi, scgi (new), ajp (new) and standalone).
>
> mod_python support was dropped (it was a constant source of troubles and
> no moin developer used it, so we are rather relieved about not having to
> support it any more). For apache users mod_wsgi is a great replacement
> of mod_python, that works far better, more secure and more comfortable.
>
> Twisted support: we currently have nothing special for Twisted in moin
> 1.9. Maybe someone from the Twisted community can help us with this if
> they need more than a moin WSGI app. I guess it could be done as a
> generic Twisted -> WSGI middleware as flup does it for other servers.
>
> Other servers: there is lots of activity in the python world to support
> WSGI. So if you don't see your server supported (and you also don't want
> to run CGI, that should work for every server), just browse through the
> wsgi.org site and use google - maybe someone already has written some
> nice middleware.
>
> Docs: as you can imagine, the install docs need major changes due to
> this. I already killed all old (en and de) install docs and server
> specifics from the master19 wiki. They soon will be replaced by new
> docs.
>
> In the new docs, there will be some fundamental changes:
>  * we will concrentrate on documenting moin (not web server
> configuration, not server administration, not generic operating system
> usage)
>  * we will broadly document one kind of "easy, 5mins installation" of
> moin - this is for desktop users, users in a hurry, moin newbies and for
> users without (web) server admin knowledge. We already have that for
> Linux, still searching someone doing it for Windows and Mac OS X.
>  * for all other "server class" stuff, we will require server admin
> knowledge and that for stuff like Linux, Apache, lighttpd, mod_wsgi,
> flup, etc. you will just have to read THEIR docs. We'll briefly describe
> the moin specifics and requirements.
>
> We hope that we get some support from the moin community with testing
> and improving of the new docs, so that users will be more satisfied with
> our docs in future.
>
> Language maintainers that did not yet remove the old install docs:
> please do so (see the english pages).
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge
> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes
> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
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> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
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From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Sat Nov 22 12:11:10 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:11:10 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.9 - new deployment and new docs
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811220911k2b0cf44arc6e8e69be9c2163c@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, I think this is a really exciting direction!  I'm probably a little bit
biased, but I happen to think that Moin is superior to most other wiki's
I've evaluated.  :-)  However, (as pointed out the other day) the Moin
install documentation can be a little thin at times.  When I look at other
projects, one thing I've always admired is that they have one set of easy
step-by-step setup documentation that will get you up and running.  My hope
is unifying the Moin set up under one WSGI configuration will get us to that
same level.  This is great news!


To this end, I can try to help with the Windows and Mac installer
documentation for 1.9.  I run Moin on Windows for work, and I use a Mac at
home.  Can you give me some guidance on what you want me to test (i.e. test
set up with Apache)?


-Rick




On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Sebastian Haase  wrote:

> Hi,
> hoping that this is not off-topic - short question: if moin would run
> as a WSGI app - will this help to somehow integrate a moin wiki into
> an existing environment of Django applications ?
> I guess I'm also thinking about user / login management and authentication
> ....
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian Haase
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Thomas Waldmann  wrote:
> >
> >> Just curious, what features are planned for Moin 1.9?
> >
> > In 1.9 we integrate the Summer of Code 2008 project of Florian Krupicka
> > (mentor: Armin Ronacher), which was about refactoring the moin core to
> > be a WSGI application (see http://wsgi.org/ ).
> >
> > The new code replaces the previous request.* and server.* packages
> > within moin and the server adaptor scripts (all that existed to support
> > different types of servers like cgi, fastcgi, mod_python, twisted, ...)
> > with a core that just talks WSGI.
> >
> > This will simplify maintenance and debugging of the moin code, because
> > everyone will (as far as moin is concerned) use the same WSGI code.
> >
> > Some (python) servers meanwhile directly speak WSGI to python web apps,
> > some other servers (like apache) have wsgi support modules (mod_wsgi is
> > really great).
> >
> > Other servers that do not (yet) support WSGI, will be supported by some
> > 3rd party code we bundle with moin (flup and wsgiref code will support
> > cgi, fastcgi, scgi (new), ajp (new) and standalone).
> >
> > mod_python support was dropped (it was a constant source of troubles and
> > no moin developer used it, so we are rather relieved about not having to
> > support it any more). For apache users mod_wsgi is a great replacement
> > of mod_python, that works far better, more secure and more comfortable.
> >
> > Twisted support: we currently have nothing special for Twisted in moin
> > 1.9. Maybe someone from the Twisted community can help us with this if
> > they need more than a moin WSGI app. I guess it could be done as a
> > generic Twisted -> WSGI middleware as flup does it for other servers.
> >
> > Other servers: there is lots of activity in the python world to support
> > WSGI. So if you don't see your server supported (and you also don't want
> > to run CGI, that should work for every server), just browse through the
> > wsgi.org site and use google - maybe someone already has written some
> > nice middleware.
> >
> > Docs: as you can imagine, the install docs need major changes due to
> > this. I already killed all old (en and de) install docs and server
> > specifics from the master19 wiki. They soon will be replaced by new
> > docs.
> >
> > In the new docs, there will be some fundamental changes:
> >  * we will concrentrate on documenting moin (not web server
> > configuration, not server administration, not generic operating system
> > usage)
> >  * we will broadly document one kind of "easy, 5mins installation" of
> > moin - this is for desktop users, users in a hurry, moin newbies and for
> > users without (web) server admin knowledge. We already have that for
> > Linux, still searching someone doing it for Windows and Mac OS X.
> >  * for all other "server class" stuff, we will require server admin
> > knowledge and that for stuff like Linux, Apache, lighttpd, mod_wsgi,
> > flup, etc. you will just have to read THEIR docs. We'll briefly describe
> > the moin specifics and requirements.
> >
> > We hope that we get some support from the moin community with testing
> > and improving of the new docs, so that users will be more satisfied with
> > our docs in future.
> >
> > Language maintainers that did not yet remove the old install docs:
> > please do so (see the english pages).
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's
> challenge
> > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great
> prizes
> > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the
> world
> > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
> > _______________________________________________
> > Moin-user mailing list
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From don at donaldegray.com  Sat Nov 22 17:55:44 2008
From: don at donaldegray.com (Don Gray)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:55:44 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] recent visited pages
Message-ID: <758952914.20081122175544@donaldegray.com>


I recently migrated from the desktop version to 1.7.2 Thing are mostly
OK. I'm dealing with syntax changes as I find them. No big deal.

However I have 3 questions. From most likely to least likely for help:

1. With the desktop version I could see the last pages I'd visited in
   the header. Very convenient way to pop back 2 - 3 pages. This is
   missing in my 1.7.2 instance. I assume there's a configuration
   option to allow this. Where may I find documentation on how to have
   the "trail of pages" (?same as breadcrumbs?) on my personal wiki?

2. How do I limit the number of historical pages? My FrontPage is
   currently at 113. I could care less about anything lower than 109.
   Again, I assume there's a config option I can edit to not save
   really old versions of stuff I don't care about.

I belive the community can help with 1 & 2. I'm stepping out with #3.

I have massive amounts of information in InfoSelect.
http://miclog.com/is/index.shtml Since I've started using MoinMoin and
starting to think about alternate computers (not Wintel) in my future,
I'm looking at options.

I've started using Google Desktop to index the information on my
computer. GD doesn't index InfoSelect. From what I can tell, at
this time GD doesn't index MoinMoin wiki pages either, even though the
wiki pages are text files.

3. Can someone point me to documentation to get GD to index my
   MoinMoin pages?

--
Don (336)374-7591

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It is a by-product of working, playing, loving and living. Haim Ginott
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Sat Nov 22 17:59:45 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:59:45 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.9 - new deployment and new docs
In-Reply-To: 
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	
Message-ID: <1227394785.21753.62.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

> hoping that this is not off-topic - short question: if moin would run
> as a WSGI app - will this help to somehow integrate a moin wiki into
> an existing environment of Django applications ?

Well, maybe it is a step into that direction, but we are currently
working on just getting it completely working "as it was". So better
don't expect too much too soon.

I guess the first visible improvements will be better maintained
request/server code (as it is all wsgi), after that better WSGI-based
test, getting some stuff separated into middlewares, etc.

> I guess I'm also thinking about user / login management and authentication ....

You can adapt moin easily using auth objects.





From tw-public at gmx.de  Sat Nov 22 18:34:03 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:34:03 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.9 - new deployment and new docs
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0811220911k2b0cf44arc6e8e69be9c2163c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	
	<5c39e1ca0811220911k2b0cf44arc6e8e69be9c2163c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1227396843.21753.73.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

> Wow, I think this is a really exciting direction!  I'm probably a
> little bit biased, but I happen to think that Moin is superior to most
> other wiki's I've evaluated.  :-)  However, (as pointed out the other
> day) the Moin install documentation can be a little thin at times.
> When I look at other projects, one thing I've always admired is that
> they have one set of easy step-by-step setup documentation that will
> get you up and running.

I also have looked at some other projects' docs. They often restrict
themselves to either a single environment or are just rather briefly
describing THEIR stuff. They don't try to teach web server
administration for dummies, like we tried.

That's why their docs are so short and simple. And because they are
short and simple, people read them.

Ours were not short and not simple and some stuff got outdated after it
was written and my impression is many people don't really read them.

> My hope is unifying the Moin set up under one WSGI configuration will
> get us to that same level.  This is great news!

Yes, I hope so, too.

> To this end, I can try to help with the Windows and Mac installer
> documentation for 1.9.  I run Moin on Windows for work, and I use a
> Mac at home.  Can you give me some guidance on what you want me to
> test (i.e. test set up with Apache)?

http://moinmo.in/NewDocs

See the quick installation docs and the links to the non-existing pages
for windows and mac.





From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Sun Nov 23 00:42:38 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:42:38 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.9 - new deployment and new docs
In-Reply-To: <1227396843.21753.73.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	
	<5c39e1ca0811220911k2b0cf44arc6e8e69be9c2163c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1227396843.21753.73.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811222142o7325fde9y1f9ab137e467fd77@mail.gmail.com>

Oh, I definitely like the direction of the new documentation!  I really like
that specific stuff (like platform-specific help) are nicely organized as
subpages, and I like the conciseness, and the flow.
I'll try to round out the Mac and Windows blank links over the next few
days.
-Rick



On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Thomas Waldmann  wrote:

> > Wow, I think this is a really exciting direction!  I'm probably a
> > little bit biased, but I happen to think that Moin is superior to most
> > other wiki's I've evaluated.  :-)  However, (as pointed out the other
> > day) the Moin install documentation can be a little thin at times.
> > When I look at other projects, one thing I've always admired is that
> > they have one set of easy step-by-step setup documentation that will
> > get you up and running.
>
> I also have looked at some other projects' docs. They often restrict
> themselves to either a single environment or are just rather briefly
> describing THEIR stuff. They don't try to teach web server
> administration for dummies, like we tried.
>
> That's why their docs are so short and simple. And because they are
> short and simple, people read them.
>
> Ours were not short and not simple and some stuff got outdated after it
> was written and my impression is many people don't really read them.
>
> > My hope is unifying the Moin set up under one WSGI configuration will
> > get us to that same level.  This is great news!
>
> Yes, I hope so, too.
>
> > To this end, I can try to help with the Windows and Mac installer
> > documentation for 1.9.  I run Moin on Windows for work, and I use a
> > Mac at home.  Can you give me some guidance on what you want me to
> > test (i.e. test set up with Apache)?
>
> http://moinmo.in/NewDocs
>
> See the quick installation docs and the links to the non-existing pages
> for windows and mac.
>
>
>
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From jdd at dodin.org  Sun Nov 23 02:18:52 2008
From: jdd at dodin.org (jdd for http://tldp.org)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:18:52 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.9 - new deployment and new docs
In-Reply-To: <1227396843.21753.73.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
References: <1227305608.9262.13.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>	<5c39e1ca0811212031k4809f777pdf61bb1a708ec1c@mail.gmail.com>	<1227355329.21753.52.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>		<5c39e1ca0811220911k2b0cf44arc6e8e69be9c2163c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1227396843.21753.73.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <492903DC.4050302@dodin.org>

Thomas Waldmann a ?crit :

> Ours were not short and not simple and some stuff got outdated after it
> was written and my impression is many people don't really read them.

I don't think so.

The problem of the Moin doc is organisation and searching.

It's very difficult to find what you need. Searching send you mostly
to bugreports or whislist or obsolete doc (about 1.6, for example,
quoted as the last version).

I know it's a difficult task, I'm myself on the work of re-organising
the Linux Documentation Project :-)

I dropped some clues about Moin here
http://wiki.tldp.org/TldpMoinHelp, and will certainly port them to the
Moin doc, but only when I have sorted out the LDP problems, and this
will not be soon :-((

but Moin is very good, keep on :-)

jdd


-- 
jdd for the Linux Documentation Project
http://wiki.tldp.org
http://www.dodin.net




From tw-public at gmx.de  Sun Nov 23 16:10:04 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:10:04 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] recent visited pages
In-Reply-To: <758952914.20081122175544@donaldegray.com>
References: <758952914.20081122175544@donaldegray.com>
Message-ID: <1227474604.7981.8.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

> I recently migrated from the desktop version to 1.7.2 Thing are mostly
> OK. I'm dealing with syntax changes as I find them. No big deal.

There are migrations scripts doing most conversions needed.

> 1. With the desktop version I could see the last pages I'd visited in
>    the header. Very convenient way to pop back 2 - 3 pages. This is
>    missing in my 1.7.2 instance. I assume there's a configuration
>    option to allow this. Where may I find documentation on how to have
>    the "trail of pages" (?same as breadcrumbs?) on my personal wiki?

The trail will appear as soon as you've created an account and logged
in. If it does not, check your user preferences and enable it.

> 2. How do I limit the number of historical pages?

You don't. :)

We maybe will have some purge policy in some future moin version (that
also revisions files items), but for now the policy is just that we
don't care.

In the age of Terabyte hard disks, storing 100 (or 1000 or 10000)
revisions with a few KByte each doesn't matter much.

> 3. Can someone point me to documentation to get GD to index my
>    MoinMoin pages?

Sorry, I don't use GD.

If you have huge amounts of stuff in moin, you can enable xapian based
indexed search within moin.





From don at donaldegray.com  Tue Nov 25 10:09:23 2008
From: don at donaldegray.com (Don Gray)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:09:23 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] recent visited pages
In-Reply-To: <1227474604.7981.8.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
References: <758952914.20081122175544@donaldegray.com>
	<1227474604.7981.8.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <704447722.20081125100923@donaldegray.com>

Thomas,

> The trail will appear as soon as you've created an account and logged
> in.

  This was the magic. Thank you. Apparently I did this in the desktop
  version, but didn't bother with 1.7.2.

>> 2. How do I limit the number of historical pages?
> 
> You don't. :)

  That makes it simple. I agree with the drive space thoughts. I
  remember purchasing my first 10 Megabyte hard drive, so worrying
  about old unused files goes back a long time. ;{)>

> If you have huge amounts of stuff in moin, you can enable xapian based
> indexed search within moin.

  Not yet, but the InfoSelect data file is over 2 gig, so it could be
  on the horizon.

  I found some Google Desktop extensions that enable adding
  non-supported (by Google) file types to be added to the indexing.
  The moin pages are text files, but don't have a file extension. Is
  there some way to put a file extension on moin wiki page files?

-- 
Don (336)374-7591

I believe that we form our own lives, that we create our own reality and
that every thing works out for the best. I know I drive some people crazy
with what seems to be ridiculous optimism, but it has always worked for me.
Jim Henson
Add to your optimism at the AYE Conference Nov 7 - 11, 2009
www.AYEconference.com




From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 13:09:28 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:09:28 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] recent visited pages
In-Reply-To: <704447722.20081125100923@donaldegray.com>
References: <758952914.20081122175544@donaldegray.com>
	<1227474604.7981.8.camel@black.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<704447722.20081125100923@donaldegray.com>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811261009r40ee5edexd988be160121da49@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Don,

Re: Google Desktop--
Thinking this thru, having Google Desktop index your wiki pages would
actually be a lousy idea.  First of all, moin wiki has searching built-in,
and it works quite well.  For a personal wiki, text searching is quite fast.
Even on our corporate wiki, where we have thousands of pages, and text
searching is still extremely fast (and we're not even running Xapian or any
other indexing engine).

The problem with using Google Desktop on you wiki would be:

   - first, if you typed in a keyword to search your wiki, it will return
   both current and all past history edits.  So, instead returning just a few
   relevent results, you would have a results-return of all the past revisions
   as well. So, with lots of edits and revisions, you would get a lot of noise.
   - secondly, if you tried to open that page, all you'd get is a text file.
   Remember that the wiki is constructing the page from a bunch of different
   files, with the content being just one of them.  It wouldn't open
   automatically within the wiki where it would be nicely formated.  Instead,
   you'd be looking at a text page where the relative links wouldn't work, and
   formatting would be like '''bold''' instead of actually showing the text in
   bold.

So, my advice is use the wiki as it was meant to be used, not fight it with
something like Google Desktop.  :-)

-Rick





On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Don Gray  wrote:

> Thomas,
>
> > The trail will appear as soon as you've created an account and logged
> > in.
>
>   This was the magic. Thank you. Apparently I did this in the desktop
>  version, but didn't bother with 1.7.2.
>
> >> 2. How do I limit the number of historical pages?
> >
> > You don't. :)
>
>   That makes it simple. I agree with the drive space thoughts. I
>  remember purchasing my first 10 Megabyte hard drive, so worrying
>  about old unused files goes back a long time. ;{)>
>
> > If you have huge amounts of stuff in moin, you can enable xapian based
> > indexed search within moin.
>
>   Not yet, but the InfoSelect data file is over 2 gig, so it could be
>  on the horizon.
>
>  I found some Google Desktop extensions that enable adding
>  non-supported (by Google) file types to be added to the indexing.
>  The moin pages are text files, but don't have a file extension. Is
>  there some way to put a file extension on moin wiki page files?
>
> --
> Don (336)374-7591
>
> I believe that we form our own lives, that we create our own reality and
> that every thing works out for the best. I know I drive some people crazy
> with what seems to be ridiculous optimism, but it has always worked for me.
> Jim Henson
> Add to your optimism at the AYE Conference Nov 7 - 11, 2009
> www.AYEconference.com
>
>
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From lnr at qad.com  Wed Nov 26 13:59:21 2008
From: lnr at qad.com (Linda Rose)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:59:21 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] auto deployment of content to MediaWiki
Message-ID: 

Hi 

I am using ePublisher 2008.3 to output and deploy content to MediaWiki. I 
am able to get the content automatically deployed; however, none of the 
images deploy automatically. I am presented with a manual upload at the 
point in the wiki where the image is to appear. I can manually upload the 
image but that is not an option with the amount of content we are planning 
to deploy on a regular basis. Is there a setting somewhere that I am 
missing that needs to be set to allow image files to be deployed to Media 
Wiki?

Background: Quadralay's ePublisher is a tool that transforms Framemaker 
source files to MediaWiki output and deploys the files to the wiki site. 
ePublisher employs a custom client that uses the MediaWiki API to push the 
pages to the MediaWiki instance. 

The MediaWiki instance is 1.13 
Software:  Windows Server 2003 SP2 (32-bit), MySQL 5.0.24, PHP  5.2.6.6 , 
IIS 6.0

Thanks for help.

Linda

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From lnr at qad.com  Wed Nov 26 14:17:39 2008
From: lnr at qad.com (Linda Rose)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:17:39 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] auto deployment of content to MediaWiki
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

Hi,

I made a mistake: we are using MediaWiki 1.12.1.





Linda Rose  
11/26/2008 10:59 AM

To
Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
cc

Subject
[Moin-user] auto deployment of content to MediaWiki







Hi 

I am using ePublisher 2008.3 to output and deploy content to MediaWiki. I 
am able to get the content automatically deployed; however, none of the 
images deploy automatically. I am presented with a manual upload at the 
point in the wiki where the image is to appear. I can manually upload the 
image but that is not an option with the amount of content we are planning 
to deploy on a regular basis. Is there a setting somewhere that I am 
missing that needs to be set to allow image files to be deployed to Media 
Wiki? 

Background: Quadralay's ePublisher is a tool that transforms Framemaker 
source files to MediaWiki output and deploys the files to the wiki site. 
ePublisher employs a custom client that uses the MediaWiki API to push the 
pages to the MediaWiki instance. 


The MediaWiki instance is 1.13 
Software:  Windows Server 2003 SP2 (32-bit), MySQL 5.0.24, PHP  5.2.6.6 , 
IIS 6.0 

Thanks for help. 

Linda 
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From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Wed Nov 26 14:45:31 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:45:31 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] auto deployment of content to MediaWiki
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811261145k6ca6fceblc856c406e88355dd@mail.gmail.com>

Linda,
I think you're on the wrong email list.  This list is for users running
MoinMoin wiki, not MediaWiki.  Similar in concept, but completely different
software.  So sorry, we won't be able to help you here...

-Rick



On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Linda Rose  wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I am using ePublisher 2008.3 to output and deploy content to MediaWiki. I
> am able to get the content automatically deployed; however, none of the
> images deploy automatically. I am presented with a manual upload at the
> point in the wiki where the image is to appear. I can manually upload the
> image but that is not an option with the amount of content we are planning
> to deploy on a regular basis. Is there a setting somewhere that I am missing
> that needs to be set to allow image files to be deployed to Media Wiki?
>
> Background: Quadralay's ePublisher is a tool that transforms Framemaker
> source files to MediaWiki output and deploys the files to the wiki site.
> ePublisher employs a custom client that uses the MediaWiki API to push the
> pages to the MediaWiki instance.
> The MediaWiki instance is 1.13
> Software:  Windows Server 2003 SP2 (32-bit), MySQL 5.0.24, PHP  5.2.6.6 ,
> IIS 6.0
>
> Thanks for help.
>
> Linda
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From adiazsanchez at yahoo.es  Thu Nov 27 04:22:39 2008
From: adiazsanchez at yahoo.es (Antonio Diaz Sanchez)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:22:39 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Moin-user] wikifarm: cannot import name wikiutil
Message-ID: <354548.61118.qm@web28606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


   Hi,

   I'm trying to configure a wikifarm. I've read the documentation and I think that I've followed the right steps but whenever I try to run this the apache's log says something like that: "ImportError: cannot import name wikituil. Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi".

   I'm using python2.4 although I've also tried it using python2.5. What can I do?

   Here is the complete log message:

[Thu Nov 27 09:07:41 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] 2008-11-27 09:07:41,213 WARNING MoinMoin.log:137 using logging configuration read from built-in fallback in MoinMoin..log module!
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Traceback (most recent call last):
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/srv/wiki/bin/moin.cgi", line 37, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin.server.server_cgi import CgiConfig, run
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/server/server_cgi.py", line 25, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin.request import request_cgi
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py", line 48, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin.Page import Page
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 42, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin import config, caching, user, util, wikiutil
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/user.py", line 29, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin import config, caching, wikiutil, i18n, events
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 25, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from inspect import getargspec, isfunction, isclass, ismethod
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/inspect.py", line 31, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] import sys, os, types, string, re, dis, imp, tokenize, linecache
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/srv/wiki/dis.py", line 16, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from farmconfig import FarmConfig
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/srv/wiki/farmconfig.py", line 69, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin.config.multiconfig import DefaultConfig
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py", line 19, in ?
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]     
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin import config, error, util, wikiutil
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] ImportError
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] : 
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] cannot import name wikiutil
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] 
[Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi


      
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From waqas805 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 27 11:15:25 2008
From: waqas805 at hotmail.com (waqas ahmad)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:15:25 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Authentication
Message-ID: 



 Hi, 
 
I am using apache2.2.8 with my moinmoin1.7.2. i am using sspi module for authentication.
I configured my apache with following commands. 
 
    LoadModule sspi_auth_module modules/mod_auth_sspi.so
# Configuration for mod_auth_sspi            AuthName "A Protected TestWiki"        AuthType SSPI        SSPIAuth On        SSPIAuthoritative On        SSPIOfferBasic On        SSPIBasicPreferred Off        require valid-user  SSPIOmitDomain On    # End of mod_auth_sspi.
and i also configured wikiconfig.py as described in moinmoin document. every thing is running fine. internet explorer ask me also username and password. 
 
 
I want to ask that how authentication is working via apache. I am not understanding the process that how apache is looking my domain.that i am right domain user.Actually i want to ask how this process is working. how it is authenticating? what is the backgraound of this process?
 
and please tell me also that, the different domain users can also access moinmoin via vpn, if yes then how?
 
I shall be really thankful to you for replying.
 
Best Regards, 
 
Waqas Ahmad
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From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 12:25:32 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:25:32 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] Authentication
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0811270925l585c542k6db85b0e71e47db7@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Waqas,How this works is that, before Apache even begins to process any
python (Moin) requests, it first must pass the authentication rule.  Once
the user enters his domain\username & password, Apache then passes that to
the SSPI module, which knows how to talk to a Windows Domain Controller.
 The module has a single purpose of saying "yes" or "no" on whether this
user is valid or not, and passes this back to Apache. If yes, then Apache
processes the next step (in this case, python). If no, then it redirects to
it's 401 error page (remember, you can also create a nice looking 401 error
page, which gives your server a finishing touch).

Yes, the SSPI module is easily able to handle multiple domains, as long as
the Domain Controllers are all talking to each other.  So, if a user from
Office-A can log onto a computer in Office-B, then you will have no problem
with your Apache-Moin installation. (this is the exact configuration for my
set-up, and it works perfectly!).

Hope this helps!

-Rick




On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:15 AM, waqas ahmad  wrote:

>
>
>  Hi,
>
> I am using apache2.2.8 with my moinmoin1.7.2. i am using sspi module for
> authentication.
> I configured my apache with following commands.
>
> 
>     LoadModule sspi_auth_module modules/mod_auth_sspi.so
> 
> # Configuration for mod_auth_sspi
> 
>     
>         AuthName "A Protected TestWiki"
>         AuthType SSPI
>         SSPIAuth On
>         SSPIAuthoritative On
>         SSPIOfferBasic On
>         SSPIBasicPreferred Off
>         require valid-user
>
>  SSPIOmitDomain On
>     
> 
> # End of mod_auth_sspi.
>
> and i also configured wikiconfig.py as described in moinmoin document.
> every thing is running fine. internet explorer ask me also username and
> password.
>
>
> I want to ask that how authentication is working via apache. I am not
> understanding the process that how apache is looking my domain.that i am
> right domain user.Actually i want to ask how this process is working. how it
> is authenticating? what is the backgraound of this process?
>
> and please tell me also that, the different domain users can also access
> moinmoin via vpn, if yes then how?
>
> I shall be really thankful to you for replying.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Waqas Ahmad
>
>
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From adiazsanchez at yahoo.es  Thu Nov 27 16:54:25 2008
From: adiazsanchez at yahoo.es (Antonio Diaz)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:54:25 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] wikifarm: cannot import name wikiutil
In-Reply-To: <354548.61118.qm@web28606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
References: <354548.61118.qm@web28606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <492F1711.9070000@yahoo.es>


   I started  from scratch and now it works. I don't what was wrong.

  

Antonio Diaz Sanchez escribi??:
>
>    Hi,
>
>    I'm trying to configure a wikifarm. I've read the documentation and 
> I think that I've followed the right steps but whenever I try to run 
> this the apache's log says something like that: "ImportError: cannot 
> import name wikituil. Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi".
>
>    I'm using python2.4 although I've also tried it using python2.5. 
> What can I do?
>
>    Here is the complete log message:
>
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:41 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] 2008-11-27 
> 09:07:41,213 WARNING MoinMoin.log:137 using logging configuration read 
> from built-in fallback in MoinMoin.log module!
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Traceback 
> (most recent call last):
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/srv/wiki/bin/moin.cgi", line 37, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> MoinMoin.server.server_cgi import CgiConfig, run
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/server/server_cgi.py", 
> line 25, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> MoinMoin.request import request_cgi
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py", 
> line 48, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> MoinMoin.Page import Page
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 42, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10..141.188.134] from 
> MoinMoin import config, caching, user, util, wikiutil
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/user.py", line 29, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> MoinMoin import config, caching, wikiutil, i18n, events
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 
> 25, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> inspect import getargspec, isfunction, isclass, ismethod
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/usr/lib/python2.4/inspect.py", line 31, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] import sys, 
> os, types, string, re, dis, imp, tokenize, linecache
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/srv/wiki/dis.py", line 16, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188..134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> farmconfig import FarmConfig
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/srv/wiki/farmconfig.py", line 69, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> MoinMoin.config.multiconfig import DefaultConfig
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py", 
> line 19, in ?
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
> MoinMoin import config, error, util, wikiutil
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] ImportError
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] :
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] cannot 
> import name wikiutil
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]
> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Premature 
> end of script headers: moin.cgi
>
>
>
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From rb.proj at gmail.com  Thu Nov 27 18:34:05 2008
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:34:05 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] wikifarm: cannot import name wikiutil
In-Reply-To: <492F1711.9070000@yahoo.es>
References: <354548.61118.qm@web28606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<492F1711.9070000@yahoo.es>
Message-ID: 

Antonio Diaz schrieb:
> 
>   I started  from scratch and now it works. I don't what was wrong.
> 
may be a typo in moin.cgi, we can check if you show a diff

cheers
Reimar
>  
> 
> Antonio Diaz Sanchez escribi?:
>>
>>    Hi,
>>
>>    I'm trying to configure a wikifarm. I've read the documentation and
>> I think that I've followed the right steps but whenever I try to run
>> this the apache's log says something like that: "ImportError: cannot
>> import name wikituil. Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi".
>>
>>    I'm using python2.4 although I've also tried it using python2.5.
>> What can I do?
>>
>>    Here is the complete log message:
>>
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:41 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] 2008-11-27
>> 09:07:41,213 WARNING MoinMoin.log:137 using logging configuration read
>> from built-in fallback in MoinMoin.log module!
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Traceback
>> (most recent call last):
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/srv/wiki/bin/moin.cgi", line 37, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from
>> MoinMoin.server.server_cgi import CgiConfig, run
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/server/server_cgi.py",
>> line 25, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from
>> MoinMoin.request import request_cgi
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py",
>> line 48, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin.Page
>> import Page
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 42, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10..141.188.134] from MoinMoin
>> import config, caching, user, util, wikiutil
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/user.py", line 29, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin import
>> config, caching, wikiutil, i18n, events
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line
>> 25, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from inspect import
>> getargspec, isfunction, isclass, ismethod
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/usr/lib/python2.4/inspect.py", line 31, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] import sys, os,
>> types, string, re, dis, imp, tokenize, linecache
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/srv/wiki/dis.py", line 16, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188..134]    [Thu
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from farmconfig
>> import FarmConfig
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/srv/wiki/farmconfig.py", line 69, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from
>> MoinMoin.config.multiconfig import DefaultConfig
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py",
>> line 19, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu Nov
>> 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin import
>> config, error, util, wikiutil
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] ImportError
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] :
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] cannot
>> import name wikiutil
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Premature
>> end of script headers: moin.cgi
>>
>>
>>
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From adiazsanchez at yahoo.es  Fri Nov 28 18:08:53 2008
From: adiazsanchez at yahoo.es (Antonio Diaz)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:08:53 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] wikifarm: cannot import name wikiutil
In-Reply-To: <492F1711.9070000@yahoo.es>
References: <354548.61118.qm@web28606.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
	<492F1711.9070000@yahoo.es>
Message-ID: <49307A05.2060304@yahoo.es>


   Ok, now I know a bit more about the error. According to the 
instructions, into the "farmconfig.py" file you have to specify url's 
pattern and config's file for each wiki of the farm. In my case, one of 
these wikis is called "dis". I found out that whenever I created the 
file "dis.py" the farm broke down. That is, if I changed the name of the 
file to other one (as "wikidis.py") the problem did disappear. After of 
being thinking about it I supposed that It was possible that python was 
getting confused with other file with the same name. Indeed, I've 
checked that python's lib contains a file called "dis.py".

   My real problem lies in I know nothing about python. I took me one 
day to realize that may be there were a conflict.

   Hope it helps.

(and sorry for my english)

Antonio Diaz escribi??:
>
>   I started  from scratch and now it works. I don't what was wrong.
>
>  
>
> Antonio Diaz Sanchez escribi??:
>>
>>    Hi,
>>
>>    I'm trying to configure a wikifarm. I've read the documentation 
>> and I think that I've followed the right steps but whenever I try to 
>> run this the apache's log says something like that: "ImportError: 
>> cannot import name wikituil. Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi".
>>
>>    I'm using python2.4 although I've also tried it using python2.5. 
>> What can I do?
>>
>>    Here is the complete log message:
>>
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:41 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] 2008-11-27 
>> 09:07:41,213 WARNING MoinMoin.log:137 using logging configuration 
>> read from built-in fallback in MoinMoin.log module!
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Traceback 
>> (most recent call last):
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/srv/wiki/bin/moin.cgi", line 37, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
>> MoinMoin.server.server_cgi import CgiConfig, run
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/server/server_cgi.py", 
>> line 25, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
>> MoinMoin.request import request_cgi
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py", 
>> line 48, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
>> MoinMoin.Page import Page
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py", line 42, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10..141.188.134] from MoinMoin 
>> import config, caching, user, util, wikiutil
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/user.py", line 29, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin 
>> import config, caching, wikiutil, i18n, events
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 
>> 25, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from inspect 
>> import getargspec, isfunction, isclass, ismethod
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/usr/lib/python2.4/inspect.py", line 31, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] import sys, os, 
>> types, string, re, dis, imp, tokenize, linecache
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/srv/wiki/dis.py", line 16, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188..134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from farmconfig 
>> import FarmConfig
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/srv/wiki/farmconfig.py", line 69, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from 
>> MoinMoin.config.multiconfig import DefaultConfig
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]   File 
>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py", 
>> line 19, in ?
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]    [Thu 
>> Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] from MoinMoin 
>> import config, error, util, wikiutil
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] ImportError
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] :
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] cannot 
>> import name wikiutil
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134]
>> [Thu Nov 27 09:07:44 2008] [error] [client 10.141.188.134] Premature 
>> end of script headers: moin.cgi
>>
>>
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