From kai at aplteam.com  Sat Mar  1 05:28:27 2008
From: kai at aplteam.com (kai at aplteam.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:28:27 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] Page got lost
Message-ID: <99f673360803010228t7979c2b0q5d6943231571a20e@mail.gmail.com>

I just changed a page and tried to save it.

After some time I got a "CGI time out" error. I was told that a
process was killed. That message was obviously returned by IIS on the
server.

When I tried to display the page it was no longer available. Recent
changes is reporting the page as "Deleted" ???!
When I tried to revert the previous version I got the MoinMoin message:

"Page could not get locked. Missing 'current' file"

Advice es very welcome

Kai



From tw-public at gmx.de  Sat Mar  1 14:21:07 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:21:07 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Page got lost
In-Reply-To: <99f673360803010228t7979c2b0q5d6943231571a20e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99f673360803010228t7979c2b0q5d6943231571a20e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1204399267.15050.93.camel@black>

> "Page could not get locked. Missing 'current' file"

Go to the page directory in the file system:

cd data/pages/PageName

Look if there is a "current.locked" file, rename it to "current".

Check that the content of it points to the last revision in the
revisions directory.





From yahoo at jimpop.com  Sun Mar  2 01:22:16 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:22:16 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] <site>/data file system permissions
Message-ID: <7ff145960803012222r68096d65g124add492dd28768@mail.gmail.com>

What are the best practices / recommendations for file system
permissions on the <site>/data directory?   I understand that MoinMoin
needs write access via the webserver, but does it need write access to
everything in /data/ or just some things.   Additionally, is there any
problem with having /data/plugin/*/*.py owned by non webserver IDs
(specifically so users can edit them)?

Thx,

-Jim P.



From tw-public at gmx.de  Sun Mar  2 12:26:38 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:26:38 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] <site>/data file system permissions
In-Reply-To: <7ff145960803012222r68096d65g124add492dd28768@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803012222r68096d65g124add492dd28768@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1204478798.8176.4.camel@black>


> What are the best practices / recommendations for file system
> permissions on the <site>/data directory?

Moin uses a umask of 0770 by default, so starting with a data dir with
uid/gid == that of the moin process and rwX for user and group (and no
access for world) is a good idea.

> I understand that MoinMoin
> needs write access via the webserver, but does it need write access to
> everything in /data/ or just some things.

For simplicity, assume everything.

> Additionally, is there any
> problem with having /data/plugin/*/*.py owned by non webserver IDs
> (specifically so users can edit them)?

As long as the moin process can find and read the *.py, it is fine.
For some better performance, you also want python to be able to store
the *.pyc, so creating new files (writing the *.pyc) should be also
possible.





From tja at tja-server.de  Mon Mar  3 10:42:26 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas Ackermann)
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:42:26 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
Message-ID: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>

Hello,
this is my first mail to this list :)

I try to include pages with <<Include(^Test/.*, , titlesonly)>>, but 
this get?s me too much headers - i would like to restrict the included 
headers to level 2, for example ...

Any idea how to accomplish this with MoinMoin?

Thanx!




From holzum1 at netcologne.de  Tue Mar  4 12:28:57 2008
From: holzum1 at netcologne.de (Bernd Holzum)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:28:57 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] utf8 problem with german umlauts
Message-ID: <pfd0a5-j04.ln1@holzum.myfqdn.de>

Hi,

does anyone have an idea why this error might occur?

http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-holzumbe2/wiki_img/wiki_utf8_problem.jpg

It comes up when I do a text search in the wiki. Obviously German Umlauts
are exspected at the place where the script struggles. 

In the past I updated the wiki over several versions of moinmoin wiki. Maybe
I made a kind of utf8 conversion error at one step of the update process?

Thanks in advance
Bernd Holzum




From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Mar  4 12:28:33 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:28:33 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] utf8 problem with german umlauts
In-Reply-To: <pfd0a5-j04.ln1@holzum.myfqdn.de>
References: <pfd0a5-j04.ln1@holzum.myfqdn.de>
Message-ID: <47CD86C1.90803@gmx.de>

  > does anyone have an idea why this error might occur?
> 
> http://www.netcologne.de/~nc-holzumbe2/wiki_img/wiki_utf8_problem.jpg

Because your page content is not completely utf-8.

Maybe someone put some iso-8859-1 content into the page.

Maybe some bits on your disk changed...

> It comes up when I do a text search in the wiki. Obviously German Umlauts
> are exspected at the place where the script struggles. 

German umlauts are no problem. utf-8 can represent all unicode chars. 
German, chinese, hebrew, ...

In that concrete case, the biggest problem is locating byte 5758, the 
error message only shows the beginning and the end of the content, not 
the problematic location...




From tja at anykey.de  Tue Mar  4 16:36:24 2008
From: tja at anykey.de (Thomas Ackermann)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:36:24 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>

That does not seem to be a question anybody cares about.
:-/


Thomas Ackermann schrieb:
> Hello,
> this is my first mail to this list :)
> 
> I try to include pages with <<Include(^Test/.*, , titlesonly)>>, but 
> this get?s me too much headers - i would like to restrict the included 
> headers to level 2, for example ...
> 
> Any idea how to accomplish this with MoinMoin?
> 
> Thanx!
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
> _______________________________________________
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> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user

BTW, i dont like my mail to be sponsored by Microsoft - how about 
changing that?



From yahoo at jimpop.com  Tue Mar  4 18:03:28 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:03:28 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de> <47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>
Message-ID: <7ff145960803041503k4e0ebcf7ua3bc0932c70937e@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Thomas Ackermann <tja at anykey.de> wrote:
> That does not seem to be a question anybody cares about.
>  :-/

;-) or nobody knows the answer and just didn't want to clutter up the
list by saying that.

Best wishes,

-Jim P.



From ndo95132 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  4 18:19:26 2008
From: ndo95132 at yahoo.com (Nam Do)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:19:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user] how to embed HTML into moinmoin
Message-ID: <91642.4103.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi all,

I searched the HelpOn topics and couldn't find
anything on how to embed straight HTML into moin moin.

i tried silly things like:

<html>
  <a href="www.google.com"> google </a>
</html>

[html  <a href="www.google.com"> google </a> ]

[[html <a href="www.google.com"> google </a> ]]

{{{#!html
<a href="www.google.com"> google </a>
}}}

none of which worked... 

btw, i dont mind reading src if someone could point me
to a python i should start reading which may be near
the info i am looking for.

btw, sorry if this is a recent duplicate topic.

Thanks in advance





      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs



From darver at vmware.com  Tue Mar  4 18:25:04 2008
From: darver at vmware.com (Dexter Arver)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:25:04 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] how to embed HTML into moinmoin
In-Reply-To: <91642.4103.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <91642.4103.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B317A7DF-E74E-4228-AC6B-51B3E103806E@vmware.com>

You use the HTML parser like so (you had the right syntax):

{{{#!html
<b>html baby!</b>
}}}

http://moinmo.in/counterpoke

-Dexter

On Mar 4, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Nam Do wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I searched the HelpOn topics and couldn't find
> anything on how to embed straight HTML into moin moin.
>
> i tried silly things like:
>
> <html>
>  <a href="www.google.com"> google </a>
> </html>
>
> [html  <a href="www.google.com"> google </a> ]
>
> [[html <a href="www.google.com"> google </a> ]]
>
> {{{#!html
> <a href="www.google.com"> google </a>
> }}}
>
> none of which worked...
>
> btw, i dont mind reading src if someone could point me
> to a python i should start reading which may be near
> the info i am looking for.
>
> btw, sorry if this is a recent duplicate topic.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
>
>       
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
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From tja at tja-server.de  Tue Mar  4 18:25:33 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:25:33 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] how to embed HTML into moinmoin
In-Reply-To: <91642.4103.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <91642.4103.qm@web51302.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47CDDA6D.2060603@tja-server.de>

What about straight http://www.google.com
?!?



Nam Do schrieb:
> Hi all,
> 
> I searched the HelpOn topics and couldn't find
> anything on how to embed straight HTML into moin moin.
> 
> i tried silly things like:
> 
> <html>
>   <a href="www.google.com"> google </a>
> </html>
> 
> [html  <a href="www.google.com"> google </a> ]
> 
> [[html <a href="www.google.com"> google </a> ]]
> 
> {{{#!html
> <a href="www.google.com"> google </a>
> }}}
> 
> none of which worked... 
> 
> btw, i dont mind reading src if someone could point me
> to a python i should start reading which may be near
> the info i am looking for.
> 
> btw, sorry if this is a recent duplicate topic.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user




From tja at tja-server.de  Wed Mar  5 06:53:48 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas Ackermann)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:53:48 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <99f673360803042257i6397b254i8fce73fa8e27dfd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de> <47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>
	<99f673360803042257i6397b254i8fce73fa8e27dfd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CE89CC.3070708@tja-server.de>

Would a server to host the mailing-lists be enough, instead of money?

kai at aplteam.com schrieb:
> Thomas,
>
> I am sure they will accept your money instead of Microsoft's.
>
> Go ahead!
>
> Kai
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Thomas Ackermann <tja at anykey.de> wrote:
>   
>> That does not seem to be a question anybody cares about.
>>  :-/
>>
>>
>>  Thomas Ackermann schrieb:
>>  > Hello,
>>  > this is my first mail to this list :)
>>  >
>>  > I try to include pages with <<Include(^Test/.*, , titlesonly)>>, but
>>  > this get?s me too much headers - i would like to restrict the included
>>  > headers to level 2, for example ...
>>  >
>>  > Any idea how to accomplish this with MoinMoin?
>>  >
>>  > Thanx!
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
>>  > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
>>  > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
>>  > _______________________________________________
>>  > Moin-user mailing list
>>  > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>  > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
>>  BTW, i dont like my mail to be sponsored by Microsoft - how about
>>  changing that?
>>
>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
>>  Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
>>  http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Moin-user mailing list
>>  Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
>>     




From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 07:14:13 2008
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:14:13 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Help with linking (inline images)
In-Reply-To: <16de708d0802040910l4624e0c4qe5f1878c1114dbe1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <16de708d0802040910l4624e0c4qe5f1878c1114dbe1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4459f0d30803050414m6b632396o943e6868ae87c8f3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello. Arthur

> I am in need of assistance with embedded images
>  I need to essentially be able to generate <img
>  src="/static/media/pictures/official_acm_logo.png">

If it's content you should attach the image to the desired page and
use the attachment:official_acm_log.png syntax.

If it is part of the theme, it goes in the wiki config file.

Regards...


-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

http://simplementewiki.org

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/



From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Mar  5 07:11:43 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:11:43 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <47CE89CC.3070708@tja-server.de>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
	<47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>	<99f673360803042257i6397b254i8fce73fa8e27dfd@mail.gmail.com>
	<47CE89CC.3070708@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <47CE8DFF.4050303@gmx.de>

Hi Thomas,

> Would a server to host the mailing-lists be enough, instead of money?

As far as we (moin development) are concerned, it is not primarily the 
server that's missing, but someone reliable dealing with the mailing 
list: serving, administration, maintenance, keeping spam off the list, etc..

Cheers,

Thomas




From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 08:34:10 2008
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:34:10 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de> <47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>
Message-ID: <3130eec50803050534v6ccb19abk161534555aa42508@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/4/08, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
>  I dont like my mail to be sponsored by Microsoft - how about
> changing that?

Hehe... I love it that people on this list are constantly complaining
about that. It's almost like an added feature to test our loyalties...
LOL

-- Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/Gnarlodious



From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 08:57:17 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:57:17 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <3130eec50803050534v6ccb19abk161534555aa42508@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de> <47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>
	<3130eec50803050534v6ccb19abk161534555aa42508@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0803050557i6def711fo342c4d5c2ce997ae@mail.gmail.com>

I'm with Gnarlie on this one-- who care's that Microsoft is sponsoring this
server?

As far as I'm concerned, *someone* has to pay for it, so why not con your
competitor?  It's not like they're making any converts.  Personally, I think
it's great (in an ironic sort of way) that Microsoft is supporting
open-source like this, especially considering their public stance.  I say,
"Thanks Microsoft! (suckers)."

-Rick


On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Gnarlodious <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 3/4/08, Thomas Ackermann wrote:
> >  I dont like my mail to be sponsored by Microsoft - how about
> > changing that?
>
> Hehe... I love it that people on this list are constantly complaining
> about that. It's almost like an added feature to test our loyalties...
> LOL
>
> -- Gnarlie
> http://Gnarlodious.com/Gnarlodious
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Mar  5 09:08:54 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:08:54 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0803050557i6def711fo342c4d5c2ce997ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
	<47CDC0D8.1060805@anykey.de>	<3130eec50803050534v6ccb19abk161534555aa42508@mail.gmail.com>
	<5c39e1ca0803050557i6def711fo342c4d5c2ce997ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47CEA976.4080307@gmx.de>

> I'm with Gnarlie on this one-- who care's that Microsoft is sponsoring 
> this server?
> 
> As far as I'm concerned, *someone* has to pay for it, so why not con 
> your competitor?  It's not like they're making any converts.  
> Personally, I think it's great (in an ironic sort of way) that Microsoft 
> is supporting open-source like this, especially considering their public 
> stance.  I say, "Thanks Microsoft! (suckers)."

Rick and Gnarlie,

I see that (sponsoring) part in a quite similar way. I even said "Thank 
you" to the Microsoft booth personell on LinuxTag while passing their 
booth (they looked back at me slightly confused :). I guess that booth 
was really expensive for them and helped funding LinuxTag. :D

The other part is having advertisements of the dark side in front of 
your nose all the time (sometimes even 3times by quoting). I dislike that.

Yes, I also use Adblock Plus for Firefox. :)

Cheers,

Thomas



From bradeyh at gmail.com  Wed Mar  5 13:11:08 2008
From: bradeyh at gmail.com (Bradey Honsinger)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:11:08 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] Help with linking (inline images)
In-Reply-To: <16de708d0802040910l4624e0c4qe5f1878c1114dbe1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <16de708d0802040910l4624e0c4qe5f1878c1114dbe1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d89d5920803051011u2d8d23f1h93646727931b269e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 4, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Arthur Pemberton <pemboa at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am in need of assistance with embedded images
>
>  My site is: http://umkcacm.org/
>  An image could be:
>  https://umkcacm.org/static/media/pictures/official_acm_logo.png
>
>  I need to essentially be able to generate <img
>  src="/static/media/pictures/official_acm_logo.png">

Use the HTML parser:

{{{#!html
<img src="/static/media/pictures/official_acm_logo.png">
}}}

It's included in 1.6.0, which I see you're running--you shouldn't have
to do anything to enable it.

  - Bradey



From tja at tja-server.de  Thu Mar  6 04:08:50 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas Ackermann)
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:08:50 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <20080306010159.323f6c2f@blacksun.localdomain>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
	<20080306010159.323f6c2f@blacksun.localdomain>
Message-ID: <47CFB4A2.8080408@tja-server.de>

Dmitriy Zotikov schrieb:
> I've faced the same problem, tried several regexps -- with no success.
>
> Basically, this is what makes me think of using another wiki system,
> like MediaWiki, maybe.  (sad, MoinMoin is so cool... :( )
>   

We think similar :)
Also looked at MediaWiki already.

In MoinMoin, i currently  try to just restrict headers to level 3, 4 and 5
Level 4 and 5 get included and deeper is not possible.
This way, i have a better structure, but am forced to use bold face for 
other headers - and they are no headers anymore ...

Thanx for your reply!





From darver at vmware.com  Fri Mar  7 14:45:10 2008
From: darver at vmware.com (Dexter Arver)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:45:10 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] Help with Attachments in 1.6
Message-ID: <88F99B27-C7B4-4232-89CF-D0AFC7618C9A@vmware.com>

Hello.

I have a question regarding attachments in MoinMoin 1.6.

In 1.5, when you linked to an attachment, it basically linked to the  
"get" link to that file so that when you clicked on the link, you'd  
download the file.

In 1.6, all the links to the attachment goes to the "view" link. Is  
there anyway to post a link to the attachment, but have it be the  
"get" link?

-Dexter



From scott at MIT.EDU  Fri Mar  7 15:24:39 2008
From: scott at MIT.EDU (Scott R. Ehrlich)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:24:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Moin-user] Help Migrating 1.5.5a from Linux to Windows
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64L.0803071519100.29227@biohazard-cafe.mit.edu>

I have been charged with the task of migrating a production Moin 1.5.5a 
wiki from Linux to a Windows XP Pro w/Service Pack 2 system.  I did get 
the out of box configuration going with Apache2 and ActivePerl, but now I 
need to learn how to integrate the links and other stuff from the Linux 
system (it was tar.gz'd for me) to the Windows system.

What files in mywiki, apache, and anywhere else do I need to update?

Thanks.

Scott



From darver at vmware.com  Fri Mar  7 17:58:03 2008
From: darver at vmware.com (Dexter Arver)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:58:03 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] Help with Attachments in 1.6
In-Reply-To: <88F99B27-C7B4-4232-89CF-D0AFC7618C9A@vmware.com>
References: <88F99B27-C7B4-4232-89CF-D0AFC7618C9A@vmware.com>
Message-ID: <20B57E0C-A7A6-490F-AFDD-CFB9BD2D9AD8@vmware.com>

Sorry found it in /docs/CHANGES

[[attachment:foo.pdf|Direct download of foo.pdf|&do=get]]

-Dexter

On Mar 7, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Dexter Arver wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I have a question regarding attachments in MoinMoin 1.6.
>
> In 1.5, when you linked to an attachment, it basically linked to the  
> "get" link to that file so that when you clicked on the link, you'd  
> download the file.
>
> In 1.6, all the links to the attachment goes to the "view" link. Is  
> there anyway to post a link to the attachment, but have it be the  
> "get" link?
>
> -Dexter




From io-subscribe at mail.ru  Sat Mar  8 07:13:46 2008
From: io-subscribe at mail.ru (tetrakida)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:13:46 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <20080308151346.2639eb38@blacksun.localdomain>

?? Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:42:26 +0100
Thomas Ackermann <tja at tja-server.de> ????????:

> Hello,
> this is my first mail to this list :)
> 
> I try to include pages with <<Include(^Test/.*, , titlesonly)>>, but 
> this get?s me too much headers - i would like to restrict the
> included headers to level 2, for example ...
> 
> Any idea how to accomplish this with MoinMoin?
> 
> Thanx!

Have a look at Navitree macros, it is what you need.

http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/Navitree

-- 
wbr, io



From kai at aplteam.com  Sat Mar  8 08:48:44 2008
From: kai at aplteam.com (kai at aplteam.com)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 14:48:44 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade 1.5.5 to 1.6.6
Message-ID: <99f673360803080548m7bda065fy5a63a9e3ff747ce9@mail.gmail.com>

I am in trouble upgrading an existing 1.5.5 to 1.6.1 under Windows with IIS 6.

I have taken the moin.cgi template from 1.6 and made a few changes,
all of them in the first 4 lines. I did not touch the rest so the
whole things

------------------------------
#! C:\python25\python
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
sys.path.append('C:\Moin\Lib\site-packages')
sys.path.insert(0, 'D:\Wikis\apl')

from MoinMoin.server.server_cgi import CgiConfig, run

class Config(CgiConfig):
    name = 'moin'

run(Config)
-----------------------------------

because this reflects reality on my server.

Rick Vanderveer suggested in
http://moinmo.in/RickVanderveer/MigratingFromMoin15ToMoin16
also to change
MoinMoin.request import RequestCGI
to something different but there is no such thing in my script.

In my wikiconfig.py I only changed
##### from MoinMoin.multiconfig import DefaultConfig
to
from MoinMoin.config.multiconfig import DefaultConfig
and nothging else.

Now I should be able to access the wiki but instead I get
--------------------
CGI-Fehler
Die angegebene CGI-Anwendung hat keinen vollst?ndigen Satz von
HTTP-Headern zur?ckgegeben.
-------------------

Advice is very welcome

Kai

From tja at tja-server.de  Sat Mar  8 11:31:53 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:31:53 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Restricting cncluded titles to a certain level
In-Reply-To: <20080308151346.2639eb38@blacksun.localdomain>
References: <47CC1C62.2070404@tja-server.de>
	<20080308151346.2639eb38@blacksun.localdomain>
Message-ID: <47D2BF79.9050600@tja-server.de>

tetrakida schrieb:
> Have a look at Navitree macros, it is what you need.
> 
> http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/Navitree


Thanx!

For what i read, it is a 1.5 macro - and also does not seem to work 
completely, but i will have a try :)



From io-subscribe at mail.ru  Sun Mar  9 12:18:59 2008
From: io-subscribe at mail.ru (Dmitriy Zotikov)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:18:59 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Bug in NewPage macros?
Message-ID: <20080309191859.660e3637@blacksun.localdomain>

Hello,

I have a problem using <<NewPage>> macros:

when I choose non-latin page name (such as "???????/???????") for a
template in the macros, I have "Template
%D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8B/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82
not found" error.

Here is an example:

<<NewPage(???????/???????,???????? ???????, at SELF)>>

I use:
  - MoinMoin-1.6.0
  - Python-2.4.3

-- 
wbr, io



From scott at MIT.EDU  Sun Mar  9 12:22:28 2008
From: scott at MIT.EDU (Scott R. Ehrlich)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:22:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] Help Migrating 1.5.5a from Linux to Windows
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64L.0803091221320.20128@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu>

[I sent this to the list, but not sure it properly propagated, so I'm 
sending it again]

I have been charged with the task of migrating a production Moin 1.5.5a wiki 
from Linux to a Windows XP Pro w/Service Pack 2 system.  I did get the out of 
box configuration going with Apache2 and ActivePerl, but now I need to learn 
how to integrate the links and other stuff from the Linux system (it was 
tar.gz'd for me) to the Windows system.

What files in mywiki, apache, and anywhere else do I need to update?

Thanks.

Scott



From io-subscribe at mail.ru  Sun Mar  9 12:33:56 2008
From: io-subscribe at mail.ru (Dmitriy Zotikov)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:33:56 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Generate categories-based page list
Message-ID: <20080309193356.507c6972@blacksun.localdomain>

Hello everybody,

is it possible to generate a list of pages, based on more than one
category names, to which the pages belong?

For example, it would be nice to fetch in one request "All
_philosophy_ articles, written in _2005_ year" (assuming that
the pages were correctly "tagged").

Thanks!

-- 
wbr, io



From tw-public at gmx.de  Sun Mar  9 14:05:10 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:05:10 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.5.9 released, fixing security issues
Message-ID: <1205085910.23906.7.camel@black>

Hi,

if you are still running some 1.5.x (or even older) wiki, it is strongly
advised to:

 * either upgrade to some recent 1.6.x release (maybe 1.6.2 will be a
good opportunity if you didn't go for 1.6.x yet),
 * or upgrade to 1.5.9, the final 1.5.x release fixing some important
security issues (if you have good reasons to not migrate to 1.6.x yet).

Please note that 1.5.9 is the last 1.5.x release, there won't be any
future 1.5.x releases any more.

Cheers,

Thomas





From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  9 16:04:56 2008
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] Help Migrating 1.5.5a from Linux to Windows
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64L.0803091221320.20128@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <981083.22490.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- "Scott R. Ehrlich" <scott at MIT.EDU> wrote:

> 
> I have been charged with the task of migrating a production Moin
> 1.5.5a wiki 
> from Linux to a Windows XP Pro w/Service Pack 2 system.  I did get
> the out of 
> box configuration going with Apache2 and ActivePerl, but now I need
> to learn 
> how to integrate the links and other stuff from the Linux system (it
> was 
> tar.gz'd for me) to the Windows system.
> 
> What files in mywiki, apache, and anywhere else do I need to update?
> 

Hopefully you meant ActivePython rather than ActivePerl.

The way I would go about it is to stay on Linux.  But if you must go
Windows I would install a new 1.6.1 wiki using either Apache with
FastCGI, modpython, or maybe modWSGI.  It is probably easiest to use
whatever was used on Linux and copy the Linux Apache statements over to
Windows apache.  See http://moinmo.in/HelpOnInstalling for links to
your favorite flavor of Apache.

Once you can access the frontpage of the new wiki, you should be able
to unzip the Linux wiki and move/copy/rename it to your mywiki root. 
Run the migration scripts to go from 1.5.5 to 1.6.1.  Read the
migration instructions and recopy the underlay and htdocs directory
from 1.6.1 (if needed).

That should get you running.  Check RecentChanges to see if there are
any issues caused by changed/mangled timestamps on the wiki files.

Roger


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From mail at heavy.ch  Sun Mar  9 16:33:20 2008
From: mail at heavy.ch (mail at heavy.ch)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:33:20 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Generate categories-based page list
In-Reply-To: <20080309193356.507c6972@blacksun.localdomain>
References: <20080309193356.507c6972@blacksun.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1205094800.7323.15.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>

Hi there

I mainly use the FullSearch Macro for this purpose, see
http://moinmo.in/HelpOnMacros and http://moinmo.in/HelpOnSearching .
Normally I put something like <<FullSearchCached(CategoryPhilosophy
Category2005)>> on my page, but you can also use some regex.

cya
Marcel



Am Sonntag, den 09.03.2008, 19:33 +0300 schrieb Dmitriy Zotikov:

> Hello everybody,
> 
> is it possible to generate a list of pages, based on more than one
> category names, to which the pages belong?
> 
> For example, it would be nice to fetch in one request "All
> _philosophy_ articles, written in _2005_ year" (assuming that
> the pages were correctly "tagged").
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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From shavrin.ivan at gmail.com  Sun Mar  9 17:30:53 2008
From: shavrin.ivan at gmail.com (shiva)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:30:53 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Bug in NewPage macros?
In-Reply-To: <fff6e00c0803091419q7763811fu6429012cae0c4aea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080310001146.4fb07498@blacksun.localdomain>
	<fff6e00c0803091419q7763811fu6429012cae0c4aea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fff6e00c0803091430x14f1c771qdc5f4c9fe7944e85@mail.gmail.com>

 > Hello,
  >
  > I have a problem using <<NewPage>> macros:
  >
  > when I choose non-latin page name (such as "???????/???????") for a
  > template in the macros, I have "Template
  > %D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8B/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82
  > not found" error.
  >
  > Here is an example:
  >
  > <<NewPage(???????/???????,???????? ???????, at SELF)>>
  >
  > I use:
  >   - MoinMoin-1.6.0
  >   - Python-2.4.3

  Hello Dmitriy,

  it happens because of a bug in NewPage macro, which results in
  double-encoding of percent signs.  I've fixed it a while ago, see
  attachment.  Currently, it's more like a kluge, but, anyway, works great
  as a workaround.


  --
  yours, shiva
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From scott at MIT.EDU  Sun Mar  9 17:41:34 2008
From: scott at MIT.EDU (Scott R. Ehrlich)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:41:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] Help Migrating 1.5.5a from Linux to Windows
In-Reply-To: <981083.22490.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <981083.22490.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64L.0803091737480.6290@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu>

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Roger Haase wrote:

> Hopefully you meant ActivePython rather than ActivePerl.
>
> The way I would go about it is to stay on Linux.  But if you must go
> Windows I would install a new 1.6.1 wiki using either Apache with
> FastCGI, modpython, or maybe modWSGI.  It is probably easiest to use
> whatever was used on Linux and copy the Linux Apache statements over to
> Windows apache.  See http://moinmo.in/HelpOnInstalling for links to
> your favorite flavor of Apache.
>
> Once you can access the frontpage of the new wiki, you should be able
> to unzip the Linux wiki and move/copy/rename it to your mywiki root.
> Run the migration scripts to go from 1.5.5 to 1.6.1.  Read the
> migration instructions and recopy the underlay and htdocs directory
> from 1.6.1 (if needed).
>
> That should get you running.  Check RecentChanges to see if there are
> any issues caused by changed/mangled timestamps on the wiki files.

Hi Roger and the list:

Yes, ActivePython (thanks).  I did try to expand the production 1.5.5a zip 
file from the Linux machine "on top of" the working 1.5.5a Windows 
installation, with the PC having been restarted, and the production 
instance shows no sign of having been integrated, thus my thinking that 
files may have paths that need to be adjusted, both for the wiki and 
Apache, and maybe for Python.

And I don't see why I would need to upgrade to the newer version until I 
can get same version working on a new platform?

Ideas welcome.

Thanks.

Scott

>
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>
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From GregNoel at tigris.org  Sun Mar  9 20:43:34 2008
From: GregNoel at tigris.org (Greg Noel)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:43:34 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates v. ACLs
Message-ID: <DF22286A-CF86-4EAB-98F1-3A6C80713986@tigris.org>

Hi, moin-users,

I have a problem with templates.  The problem is that the ACL I want  
on the page  as a template is not the same as the ACL I want on page  
that's generated from the template.

In particular, I want one group to be able to edit the template and  
have the template publicly readable, but when the template is  
instantiated, I want only the page owner to be able to edit the page  
and have the page private (not publicly readable).

I've thought about this, and I don't see any easy way to do it, so  
I'm asking the combined wisdom of the list to see if there's a way.

Currently, we're hand-editing the ACL (with a text editor on the page  
file) after the page is instantiated, but that's not going to scale.   
We really need some way of applying the ACL automatically.

If anyone has any suggestions or insight, I'd appreciate it.  I'm  
willing to make changes to the moin source, if that's what it takes.

Tks,
-- Greg Noel, retired UNIX guru



From ludwig at fh-worms.de  Mon Mar 10 01:25:31 2008
From: ludwig at fh-worms.de (Christoph Ludwig)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:25:31 +0900
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.5.9 released, fixing security issues
In-Reply-To: <1205085910.23906.7.camel@black>
References: <1205085910.23906.7.camel@black>
Message-ID: <20080310052530.GB6845@castellio.cbs.curtin.edu.au>

Hi,

On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:05:10PM +0100, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> if you are still running some 1.5.x (or even older) wiki, it is strongly
> advised to:
> 
>  * either upgrade to some recent 1.6.x release (maybe 1.6.2 will be a
> good opportunity if you didn't go for 1.6.x yet),
>  * or upgrade to 1.5.9, the final 1.5.x release fixing some important
> security issues (if you have good reasons to not migrate to 1.6.x yet).

could you provide some details what changed in 1.5.9, in particular which
security issues you fixed?
<URL:http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/subscribe/SecurityFixes> does not mention
anything for 1.5.9 vs. 1.5.8.

Thanks

Christoph
-- 
FH Worms - University of Applied Sciences
Fachbereich Informatik / Telekommunikation
Erenburgerstr. 19, 67549 Worms, Germany



From GregNoel at tigris.org  Mon Mar 10 06:12:07 2008
From: GregNoel at tigris.org (Greg Noel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:12:07 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates v. ACLs
In-Reply-To: <DF22286A-CF86-4EAB-98F1-3A6C80713986@tigris.org>
References: <DF22286A-CF86-4EAB-98F1-3A6C80713986@tigris.org>
Message-ID: <E393A9F6-F2EF-4B14-93C7-2E5D6D4194E0@tigris.org>

On Mar 9, 2008, at 5:43 PM, I wrote:

> I have a problem with templates.  The problem is that the ACL I  
> want on the template page is not the same as the ACL I want on the  
> page that's instantiated from the template.

I've been trying to come up with an idea to make this work.  The only  
one I've found so far goes like this:

The ACL in the page can be divided into two parts by a @TEMPLATE:  
marker.  When the page is read as a normal page, this marker stops  
the scan of the ACLs (at least the ACLS in the page; the usual  
acl_rights_after processing still takes place).  When the page is  
instantiated as a template, everything up to the @TEMPLATE: marker is  
removed; this becomes the ACL for the new page (if the ACL is then  
empty, the line is removed).

Is there a reason why this won't work?  If it will work, where should  
I start looking at the sources to make a fix?  I need this pretty  
urgently, so I need to get started on it now.

Thanks in advance for any help,
-- Greg Noel, retired UNIX guru



From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Mar 10 10:44:18 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:44:18 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates v. ACLs
In-Reply-To: <DF22286A-CF86-4EAB-98F1-3A6C80713986@tigris.org>
References: <DF22286A-CF86-4EAB-98F1-3A6C80713986@tigris.org>
Message-ID: <47D54942.3020905@gmx.de>

> I have a problem with templates.  The problem is that the ACL I want  
> on the page  as a template is not the same as the ACL I want on page  
> that's generated from the template.

That's a problem with the current system. If you want to change ACLs, 
you need admin rights.

> In particular, I want one group to be able to edit the template and  
> have the template publicly readable, but when the template is  
> instantiated, I want only the page owner

Moin (and most wikis) don't have a concept of "page ownership" because 
it is often hard to define who should be that owner.

> I've thought about this, and I don't see any easy way to do it, so  
> I'm asking the combined wisdom of the list to see if there's a way.

If there are some specific conditions when a user should have admin 
rights, it can be done by a security policy. Maybe look at the autoadmin 
secpol (see MoinMoin/security/autoadmin.py).

> If anyone has any suggestions or insight, I'd appreciate it.  I'm  
> willing to make changes to the moin source, if that's what it takes.

Maybe a future moin template system should not load the template into 
the editor, but instantiate a page with a copy of that template as first 
revision (and thus, creating the ACL internally, without the user 
needing to be able to do that). Of course this is only half a solution 
for your special case.



From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Mar 10 10:47:43 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:47:43 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.5.9 released, fixing security issues
In-Reply-To: <20080310052530.GB6845@castellio.cbs.curtin.edu.au>
References: <1205085910.23906.7.camel@black>
	<20080310052530.GB6845@castellio.cbs.curtin.edu.au>
Message-ID: <47D54A0F.10008@gmx.de>

>> if you are still running some 1.5.x (or even older) wiki, it is strongly
>> advised to:
>>
>>  * either upgrade to some recent 1.6.x release (maybe 1.6.2 will be a
>> good opportunity if you didn't go for 1.6.x yet),
>>  * or upgrade to 1.5.9, the final 1.5.x release fixing some important
>> security issues (if you have good reasons to not migrate to 1.6.x yet).
> 
> could you provide some details what changed in 1.5.9, in particular which
> security issues you fixed?

See there:

http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.5/file/1.5.9/docs/CHANGES

> <URL:http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/subscribe/SecurityFixes> does not mention
> anything for 1.5.9 vs. 1.5.8.

Well, if you read the page completely, it should be clear.




From smurray at cs.odu.edu  Mon Mar 10 12:15:43 2008
From: smurray at cs.odu.edu (Steven A Murray)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:15:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] Authentication with php_session
Message-ID: <37999.66.16.132.162.1205165743.squirrel@cartero.cs.odu.edu>

I'm looking to embed MoinMoin into Joomla! that uses php and I was
wondering how I could go about using php_session for a single sign on
integration. I see that it's currently only supported with eGroupWare 1.2,
but examples on how to use php_session to extract session info seems to
not be around, as well as trying to get it to work for another
application. Any help here?  I'm using MoinMoin version 1.5.8, python
version 2.5.1 and php version 5.2.4. Thanks in advance.





From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 10 13:57:26 2008
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:57:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] Help Migrating 1.5.5a from Linux to Windows
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64L.0803091737480.6290@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <517328.56955.qm@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- "Scott R. Ehrlich" <scott at MIT.EDU> wrote:


> 
> I did try to expand the production
> 1.5.5a zip 
> file from the Linux machine "on top of" the working 1.5.5a Windows 
> installation, with the PC having been restarted, and the production 
> instance shows no sign of having been integrated, thus my thinking
> that 
> files may have paths that need to be adjusted, both for the wiki and 
> Apache, and maybe for Python.
> 
> And I don't see why I would need to upgrade to the newer version
> until I 
> can get same version working on a new platform?
> 

Going from 1.5.5 on Linux to 1.5.5 on Windows should work OK.  
  1. Compare the Linux httpd.conf against the Windows version for
differences (just the few moin related statements).
  2. Compare the wikiconfig.py on the two versions, especially the
statements under the section marked critical setup.
  3. You need to offer more clues as to what is failing, exactly.

I regularly use Unison to sync my test copy on Windows up with the
production copy on Fedora Core 6.  

Roger


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From smart at smart-knowhow.de  Mon Mar 10 14:27:27 2008
From: smart at smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:27:27 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Bounty for MoinMoin
Message-ID: <0ML25U-1JYmib3rtR-0003HZ@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de>

Hi everybody,

please have a look at:
http://moinmo.in/Bounty/BountyWebformMetaData

Anyone interested?

Kind regards,
Andrew 




From GregNoel at tigris.org  Mon Mar 10 18:23:40 2008
From: GregNoel at tigris.org (Greg Noel)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:23:40 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates v. ACLs
In-Reply-To: <47D54942.3020905@gmx.de>
References: <DF22286A-CF86-4EAB-98F1-3A6C80713986@tigris.org>
	<47D54942.3020905@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <81827C1A-C992-4B4E-851D-FBFB5ED6ABCF@tigris.org>

On Mar 10, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Thomas Waldmann wrote:

> ... If you want to change ACLs, you need admin rights.

Yes, and I think that should remain true.  I considered schemes where  
the new ACL was passed in from the macro, but they were always  
insecure in some way.  I didn't want that; I want a scheme that is  
completely controllable from the template (the editors of which would  
need admin rights on the template to change the ACLs, of course).

> Moin (and most wikis) don't have a concept of "page ownership"  
> because it is often hard to define who should be that owner.

Ah, true; in this case, I meant the @ME@ who instantiated the  
template; the creator.

> If there are some specific conditions when a user should have admin  
> rights, it can be done by a security policy. Maybe look at the  
> autoadmin secpol (see MoinMoin/security/autoadmin.py).

Hmmm...  I'd seen this in the docs (although I didn't know the name),  
but what I want is for there to be specific privileges on _one_ page  
below a master page: read/write by the creator, read by a special  
group, not accessible to the public.  (The last is the killer; if you  
use @ME@ for the creator, he doesn't have read permission on the  
template when trying to instantiate it.)

I'll have to look at how the security policies are done; maybe it's  
an alternative to the scheme I suggested in my last message.

> Maybe a future moin template system should not load the template  
> into the editor, but instantiate a page with a copy of that  
> template as first revision (and thus, creating the ACL internally,  
> without the user needing to be able to do that). Of course this is  
> only half a solution for your special case.

It would be sufficient to solve my special case, but it seems like a  
lot more of an upheaval than the scheme I suggested.  I'll look at  
doing this, as well.

I appreciate your comments; there are two alternatives here that I  
hadn't thought of.  It will give me something to work with.

Tks,
-- Greg Noel, retired UNIX guru



From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk  Tue Mar 11 06:07:15 2008
From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:07:15 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] Corrupt downloads?
Message-ID: <1205230035.2698.298.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>

There seems to be a problem with the downloads at
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload.

I've downloaded both moin-1.5.9.tar.gz and moin-1.6.1.tar.gz but neither
matches its checksum listed there, and neither is a valid .tar.gz file,
e.g.

$ md5sum /tmp/moin-1.6.1.tar.gz 
ce37ce07c1ebd2b6f866c5fe1ee47609  /tmp/moin-1.6.1.tar.gz

$ tar ztf /tmp/moin-1.6.1.tar.gz 
tar: This does not look like a tar archive
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

Jim





From GregNoel at tigris.org  Tue Mar 11 06:37:36 2008
From: GregNoel at tigris.org (Greg Noel)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:37:36 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Corrupt downloads?
In-Reply-To: <1205230035.2698.298.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
References: <1205230035.2698.298.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <F726E946-7C44-4B40-884E-72DD7A6F2A55@tigris.org>

On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:07 AM, Jim Wight wrote:

> I've downloaded both moin-1.5.9.tar.gz and moin-1.6.1.tar.gz but  
> neither matches its checksum listed there, and neither is a  
> valid .tar.gz file, ...

I was burned by this, too, but was able to figure it out.  It's been  
encoded _twice_ by gzip, so you have to gunzip it twice (or gunzip it  
once and use the -z option to tar to decode it the second time).

Hope this helps,
-- Greg Noel, retired UNIX guru



From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Mar 11 07:42:42 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:42:42 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Corrupt downloads?
In-Reply-To: <F726E946-7C44-4B40-884E-72DD7A6F2A55@tigris.org>
References: <1205230035.2698.298.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
	<F726E946-7C44-4B40-884E-72DD7A6F2A55@tigris.org>
Message-ID: <1205235762.10097.3.camel@black>

> > I've downloaded both moin-1.5.9.tar.gz and moin-1.6.1.tar.gz but  
> > neither matches its checksum listed there, and neither is a  
> > valid .tar.gz file, ...

The checksum was checked by me after transferring the files to the
download server, they are correct.

> I was burned by this, too, but was able to figure it out.  It's been  
> encoded _twice_ by gzip, so you have to gunzip it twice (or gunzip it  
> once and use the -z option to tar to decode it the second time).

Hmm, seems that some clients still implement transport encoding wrong
and "forget" to decode stuff before storing it to disk. 8(

I removed SetOutputFilter deflate from the Apache config for now.





From matthew.brett at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 14:03:32 2008
From: matthew.brett at gmail.com (Matthew Brett)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:03:32 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] HTTP success status for no-permission pages.
Message-ID: <1e2af89e0803111103o5ef6d8f3ndf6d2f5aaeee6670@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Our university web gurus wrote to complain about the fact that a 'you
do not have permission to view this page'  error in Moin results in a
success HTML status - message below.

Would it be sensible to output an HTML non-success message for this case?

Thanks a lot,

Matthew

Forwarded message:

Also, trying the [wiki] link from the [html] home page, I got a
"You are not allowed to view this page." message - which is fair enough -
but it was served with 200 success HTTP status, which is bad news for
search engines since any page that gives a success response is by
definition a candidate for indexing. Error pages really ought to give an
appropriate HTTP error status, so that client software can recognise it as
an error.



From darver at vmware.com  Tue Mar 11 17:02:08 2008
From: darver at vmware.com (Dexter Arver)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:02:08 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Subscriptable object error
Message-ID: <2711D178-BFB9-4E10-950A-4226503A6324@vmware.com>

Hello.

Has anyone seen this error in their apache error logs?

"
Exception in thread Thread-1227:
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/threading.py", line 442, in __bootstrap
     self.run()
   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/threading.py", line 422, in run
     self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/search/builtin.py",  
line 332, in func
     return f(*args, **kwargs)
   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/search/Xapian.py",  
line 297, in _do_queued_updates
     self._index_page(writer, p, mode='update')
   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/search/Xapian.py",  
line 464, in _index_page
     author = page.last_edit(request)['editor']
TypeError: unsubscriptable object
"

I am getting tons of those errors in my error logs, but I don't think  
they're showing up for my users (or they would have submitted tickets  
to me).

-Dexter



From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 10:50:58 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:50:58 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] user_checkbox_defaults
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0803120750r3a58b1dfu9ce267b3d0a279e2@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,
I would like to configure Moin so that "Publish my email (not my wiki
homepage) in author info" is checked as the default value for my wiki.

I understand that user_checkbox_defaults in the farmconfig.py is the correct
config option, but what is the name of the "publish my email"?

(I check http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences, but it's not
listed...)

Thanks in advance!

-Rick
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Mar 12 10:38:50 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:38:50 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] user_checkbox_defaults
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0803120750r3a58b1dfu9ce267b3d0a279e2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c39e1ca0803120750r3a58b1dfu9ce267b3d0a279e2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D7EAFA.3060904@gmx.de>

Hi Rick,

> I would like to configure Moin so that "Publish my email (not my wiki 
> homepage) in author info" is checked as the default value for my wiki.
> 
> I understand that user_checkbox_defaults in the farmconfig.py is the 
> correct config option, but what is the name of the "publish my email"? 
> 
> (I check http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences, but it's 
> not listed...)

See there:

http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences


Cheers,

Thomas



From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 11:41:51 2008
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:41:51 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Bounty for MoinMoin
In-Reply-To: <0ML25U-1JYmib3rtR-0003HZ@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de>
References: <0ML25U-1JYmib3rtR-0003HZ@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de>
Message-ID: <4459f0d30803120841rda78c8cs25c2a682f4aa2c14@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Andrew.

>  http://moinmo.in/Bounty/BountyWebformMetaData

I've added some comments there. If I undestood OK, there is more
chance to get it done, faster and better.

Did you subscribed to that page?

Regards...

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

http://simplementewiki.org

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/



From ndbecker2 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 13:38:08 2008
From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:38:08 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] moving attachments
Message-ID: <fr94e0$meb$1@ger.gmane.org>

I have a bunch of attachments at some_page

I have (accidentally) created a some_page.txt, which is now current and has
some more attachments.

How can I move the attachments from 'some_page' to 'some_page.txt'?  The
links in 'some_page.txt' already point to those attachment names.




From dodecatheon at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 17:13:12 2008
From: dodecatheon at gmail.com (Ted Stern)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:13:12 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] moving attachments
In-Reply-To: <fr94e0$meb$1@ger.gmane.org> (Neal Becker's message of "Wed, 12
	Mar 2008 13:38:08 -0400")
References: <fr94e0$meb$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <lspabl3hcif.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>

On 12 Mar 2008 10:38:08 -0700, Neal Becker wrote:
>
> I have a bunch of attachments at some_page
>
> I have (accidentally) created a some_page.txt, which is now current
> and has some more attachments.
>
> How can I move the attachments from 'some_page' to 'some_page.txt'?
> The links in 'some_page.txt' already point to those attachment
> names.

They're just plain files, stored in a filesystem directory.  If you
have direct access to the files of the wiki, you can simply copy files
from

     YourWiki/data/pages/some_page.txt/attachments/

to

     YourWiki/data/pages/some_page/attachments/

-- Ted
     
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-- 
 dodecatheon at gmail dot com
 Frango ut patefaciam -- I break so that I may reveal



From duaw at gmx.de  Thu Mar 13 11:42:02 2008
From: duaw at gmx.de (Dr. Uwe Werner)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:42:02 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moving attachments
In-Reply-To: <lspabl3hcif.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>
References: <fr94e0$meb$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<lspabl3hcif.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>
Message-ID: <80EF9BFF-D333-4610-B0AE-789C7A5ABE60@gmx.de>

This shows us that attachements are dealt with rather poorly by Moin.  
In addition to this lack of usability, the otherwise nice feature  
"wiki sync" completely ignores attachments.

--uw


Am 12.03.2008 um 22:13 schrieb Ted Stern:

> On 12 Mar 2008 10:38:08 -0700, Neal Becker wrote:
>>
>> I have a bunch of attachments at some_page
>>
>> I have (accidentally) created a some_page.txt, which is now current
>> and has some more attachments.
>>
>> How can I move the attachments from 'some_page' to 'some_page.txt'?
>> The links in 'some_page.txt' already point to those attachment
>> names.
>
> They're just plain files, stored in a filesystem directory.  If you
> have direct access to the files of the wiki, you can simply copy files
> from
>
>     YourWiki/data/pages/some_page.txt/attachments/
>
> to
>
>     YourWiki/data/pages/some_page/attachments/
>
> -- Ted
>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
>
> -- 
> dodecatheon at gmail dot com
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>
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From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 12:07:56 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:07:56 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] moving attachments
In-Reply-To: <80EF9BFF-D333-4610-B0AE-789C7A5ABE60@gmx.de>
References: <fr94e0$meb$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<lspabl3hcif.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>
	<80EF9BFF-D333-4610-B0AE-789C7A5ABE60@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0803130907wc6ade24v57c99286b4b2c550@mail.gmail.com>

Well now, I think you'll find some philosophical disagreement on attachment
handling, Dr. Werner... :-)

(ignoring the "wiki sync" issue for a moment, which is another issue
altogether).

Basically, something like a wiki has fundamentally two options for storing
attachments: either attached/associated with a particular page, or in one
common directory.  Using one common directory could/would quickly become a
logistical nightmare, trying to manage what attachment goes with what page
(assuming that you have a wiki with lots of attachments, like I do).  How
would one ever begin to sort all of them?  Or, even linking to one? You
would have to have extremely descriptive [long] filenames, which gets
unwieldy also.

So that leaves attachments associated with a page. This is fundamentally how
large websites are also created (i.e. you don't have a single large file
directory, but a tree of HTML files and their folder of
images/attachments).  In the case of this original email, two pages were
accidently created.  It *is* fairly trivial to go onto the backend and copy
the attachments from one page to another.  But lets say it was intentional,
(like a page called ProjectA and a page called ProjectB).  You can still
have those two separate pages, and you can crosslink between them.  Lets say
on ProjectA, you want to link to a doc on ProjectB.  Just include the path,
like this:  attachment:ProjectB/myfile.doc

Also, on our wiki, we sometimes have a need for simply posting documents, so
that they're convienent. In which case, we use the <<AttachList>> macro
(built-in) or the better looking third-party <<AttachTable>> macro
(available on the MacroMarket page).


Sorry, I get a little wordy sometimes...

-Rick


On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Dr. Uwe Werner <duaw at gmx.de> wrote:

> This shows us that attachements are dealt with rather poorly by Moin.
> In addition to this lack of usability, the otherwise nice feature
> "wiki sync" completely ignores attachments.
>
> --uw
>
>
> Am 12.03.2008 um 22:13 schrieb Ted Stern:
>
> > On 12 Mar 2008 10:38:08 -0700, Neal Becker wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a bunch of attachments at some_page
> >>
> >> I have (accidentally) created a some_page.txt, which is now current
> >> and has some more attachments.
> >>
> >> How can I move the attachments from 'some_page' to 'some_page.txt'?
> >> The links in 'some_page.txt' already point to those attachment
> >> names.
> >
> > They're just plain files, stored in a filesystem directory.  If you
> > have direct access to the files of the wiki, you can simply copy files
> > from
> >
> >     YourWiki/data/pages/some_page.txt/attachments/
> >
> > to
> >
> >     YourWiki/data/pages/some_page/attachments/
> >
> > -- Ted
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
> >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
> >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
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> >>
> >
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> >
> >
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>
>
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Mar 13 13:26:17 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:26:17 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moving attachments
In-Reply-To: <80EF9BFF-D333-4610-B0AE-789C7A5ABE60@gmx.de>
References: <fr94e0$meb$1@ger.gmane.org>	<lspabl3hcif.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>
	<80EF9BFF-D333-4610-B0AE-789C7A5ABE60@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <47D963B9.2080000@gmx.de>

Dr. Uwe Werner schrieb:
> This shows us that attachements are dealt with rather poorly by Moin.  

Yes, AttachFile is rather old & crappy code, a quick hack from 2001. No 
news. :)

We are trying to unify attachments with page storage, there has been 
some work by Heinrich Wendel in SOC 2007, but it needs some more work 
before we can switch to the new backend.

After that, attachments will be handled by same code as page items, will 
have revisions, own ACLs, other metadata, same UI functions, etc.

> In addition to this lack of usability, the otherwise nice feature  
> "wiki sync" completely ignores attachments.

I guess this will also be solved by that.




From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 23:55:22 2008
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:55:22 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding a subscribable user database to Moin
Message-ID: <3130eec50803132055g486c52d0r6367dffe594376b4@mail.gmail.com>

My local Mac User Group (MUG) wants a new website. I proposed the Moin
software, and they like the idea. You can see the site here:
http://SantaFeMUG.org/

Only one consideration. The MUG has members who renew yearly, paying
$35 for access to the meetings and website private area. This work is
all handled by the secretary, but we want to automate it. We want the
user to be reminded by email when their membership expires. They would
then click on a button that would allow them to pay online. This is
all voluntary, of course, and non-payers would not necessarily be
kicked off the site.

I realize MoinMoin is not set up for this kind of user management.
Does it sound possible to add it as a plug-in? Is there any easy way
to edit a user database in the Moin software? I am talking about
names, phone numbers and email address, etc. Or would it be best to
use a separate script and integrate that into the moin userlist?

Any comments or suggestions are welcome. I would also add that such
capability might be very popular with usergroups and clubs in general.

-- Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/



From johnkarp at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 00:50:00 2008
From: johnkarp at gmail.com (John Karp)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:50:00 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Stripping out wiki actions
Message-ID: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm setting up a moinmoin wiki for the first time for a small group
that uses the internet to coordinate. I want to set it up so that by
default, none of the wiki-specific actions or toolbars (except for
'login') is visible to people without accounts.

I know the docs give a way of making both the anon and default user
profiles hide those elements, but I don't want this... I only want to
pare things down for the anonymous; new accounts should default to
showing the full wikiness.

Secondly... is there a way for me to have a different header for just
the front page? Such as having a fancier image and no written out
title text? I can resort to having a static page, but I'd rather have
it modifiable like everything else on the site.

Thanks,
John Karp



From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de  Fri Mar 14 04:16:23 2008
From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:16:23 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding a subscribable user database to Moin
In-Reply-To: <3130eec50803132055g486c52d0r6367dffe594376b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3130eec50803132055g486c52d0r6367dffe594376b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bc657ead0803140116n447f3946u8fefc1549095856d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I'm using this opportunity to ask a question I'm thinking about for a long time:
How would / could Django (www.djangoproject.com) play together with MoinMoin ?
It would probably be non-feasable to "completely rewrite MoinMoin" as
a Django application ;-)
Even though, had Django existed prior, it would have made making
MoinMoin much easier!
But more specific: The first thing one would want is that user-logins
would be "exchanged" between MoinMoin and
Django: so a user who logs into one  would automatically get
recognized as an existing user in the other.

Now to the OP's question:  If a database like you want it is not
easily implemented within MoinMoin, then a django app would certainly
be a quite easy homework kind-of task to write.


Cheers,
Sebastian Haase



On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Gnarlodious
<lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com> wrote:
> My local Mac User Group (MUG) wants a new website. I proposed the Moin
> software, and they like the idea. You can see the site here:
> http://SantaFeMUG.org/
>
> Only one consideration. The MUG has members who renew yearly, paying
> $35 for access to the meetings and website private area. This work is
> all handled by the secretary, but we want to automate it. We want the
> user to be reminded by email when their membership expires. They would
> then click on a button that would allow them to pay online. This is
> all voluntary, of course, and non-payers would not necessarily be
> kicked off the site.
>
> I realize MoinMoin is not set up for this kind of user management.
> Does it sound possible to add it as a plug-in? Is there any easy way
> to edit a user database in the Moin software? I am talking about
> names, phone numbers and email address, etc. Or would it be best to
> use a separate script and integrate that into the moin userlist?
>
> Any comments or suggestions are welcome. I would also add that such
> capability might be very popular with usergroups and clubs in general.
>
> -- Gnarlie
> http://Gnarlodious.com/
>
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From tja at tja-server.de  Fri Mar 14 04:56:35 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas Ackermann)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:56:35 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding new pages with a script?
Message-ID: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>

Hello,
i have much content in form of text and html files ...

Is there any way of adding them with a script instead of manually over a 
webbrowser?

Thanx!




From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 06:56:00 2008
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:56:00 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding a subscribable user database to Moin
In-Reply-To: <bc657ead0803140116n447f3946u8fefc1549095856d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3130eec50803132055g486c52d0r6367dffe594376b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc657ead0803140116n447f3946u8fefc1549095856d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3130eec50803140356w4cacdf32o54f7e0c9ac6f725d@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/14/08, Sebastian Haase wrote:

> It would probably be non-feasable to "completely rewrite MoinMoin" as
> a Django application ;-)
I don't know what Django is but I do know that it uses WSGI as Apache
interface. And there has been much talk of WSGI on this list.

> But more specific: The first thing one would want is that user-logins
> would be "exchanged" between MoinMoin and
> Django: so a user who logs into one would automatically get
> recognized as an existing user in the other.
That would work for my purposes. Moin doesn't need to do everything I
want, only that user database be accessible by both scripts.

-- Gnarlie



From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 14 07:15:30 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:15:30 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding a subscribable user database to Moin
In-Reply-To: <3130eec50803132055g486c52d0r6367dffe594376b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3130eec50803132055g486c52d0r6367dffe594376b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DA5E52.4060005@gmx.de>

> Only one consideration. The MUG has members who renew yearly, paying
> $35 for access to the meetings and website private area. This work is
> all handled by the secretary, but we want to automate it. We want the
> user to be reminded by email when their membership expires. They would
> then click on a button that would allow them to pay online. This is
> all voluntary, of course, and non-payers would not necessarily be
> kicked off the site.

That doesn't sound much like you want to handle it with a wiki.

If you want to restrict access to the wiki, your member application can 
just export a member list (see MoinMoin/script/... for a group page 
updater script) and you can use ACLs based on that group.




From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 14 07:18:12 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:18:12 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Stripping out wiki actions
In-Reply-To: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DA5EF4.3020505@gmx.de>


> I'm setting up a moinmoin wiki for the first time for a small group
> that uses the internet to coordinate. I want to set it up so that by
> default, none of the wiki-specific actions or toolbars (except for
> 'login') is visible to people without accounts.

There is a theme "modern_cms" that does this (or "did this", I didn't 
try it for some time, maybe it needs an update).

> Secondly... is there a way for me to have a different header for just
> the front page? Such as having a fancier image and no written out
> title text? I can resort to having a static page, but I'd rather have
> it modifiable like everything else on the site.

The theme itself does not change per page.
But you can add some html header or footer using a python function (and 
check the pagename in that function).




From newz at bearfruit.org  Fri Mar 14 09:49:14 2008
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:49:14 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding new pages with a script?
In-Reply-To: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>
References: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <f3c0b4080803140649u6cc4d0ffr9cc98d91374b17ea@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Thomas Ackermann <tja at tja-server.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>  i have much content in form of text and html files ...
>
>  Is there any way of adding them with a script instead of manually over a
>  webbrowser?

It's just HTTP, there's nothing too clever involved. Spammers do it
all the time.

Maybe Gustavo's editmoin program can give you some inspiration:
http://labix.org/editmoin

-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode



From tja at tja-server.de  Fri Mar 14 10:02:06 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas Ackermann)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:02:06 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding new pages with a script?
In-Reply-To: <f3c0b4080803140649u6cc4d0ffr9cc98d91374b17ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>
	<f3c0b4080803140649u6cc4d0ffr9cc98d91374b17ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DA855E.5000305@tja-server.de>

Matthew Nuzum schrieb:
> It's just HTTP, there's nothing too clever involved. Spammers do it
> all the time.
>
> Maybe Gustavo's editmoin program can give you some inspiration:
> http://labix.org/editmoin
>   
Thank you ...
It seems we mean different things.
I wanted to use a script on the server itself to pump data-files into 
MoinMoin!

While waiting, i modified the import-Skript for irclogs to import any 
data and used it via "moin ... import files ..."

Works :)


Still strange, that nobody seems to use such things :-O



From newz at bearfruit.org  Fri Mar 14 10:05:12 2008
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:05:12 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Stripping out wiki actions
In-Reply-To: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f3c0b4080803140705u68f58292j4fd09769de82cfad@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:50 PM, John Karp <johnkarp at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  I'm setting up a moinmoin wiki for the first time for a small group
>  that uses the internet to coordinate. I want to set it up so that by
>  default, none of the wiki-specific actions or toolbars (except for
>  'login') is visible to people without accounts.
>
>  I know the docs give a way of making both the anon and default user
>  profiles hide those elements, but I don't want this... I only want to
>  pare things down for the anonymous; new accounts should default to
>  showing the full wikiness.

This technique involves digging into a little bit of code.

When you install Moin it puts a good portion of its code in your
site-wide python library folder. All of your globally available python
modules are there. In an Ubuntu 6.06 server I'm logged into now it's
at:
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/

In there you'll see a folder called theme which contains a file called
__init__.py. This file has the definition for ThemeBase that all
themes use to get their default values. See for example modern theme:

    class Theme(ThemeBase):

        name = "modern"
    ...

So basically, when you make a theme you're just taking ThemeBase and
adding your customized theme specific code/html.

Therefore the way I've taken to doing custom things is to look through
ThemeBase for the parts I want to change and then overriding them in
my theme. For example, you can override editbar to change what options
show up in the edit bar.

>  Secondly... is there a way for me to have a different header for just
>  the front page? Such as having a fancier image and no written out
>  title text? I can resort to having a static page, but I'd rather have
>  it modifiable like everything else on the site.
>

Create or install a macro that allows you to put HTML in your wiki
page (make sure to do this in a secure fashion). When you customize
your theme, have it customize the <body> tag (or some child tag) to
include a unique identifier for the page. So, you could do something
like:

 <body id="frontpage">...

This gives you the ability to create special style rules that affect
individual pages.

-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode



From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 14 11:31:45 2008
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:31:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] Stripping out wiki actions
In-Reply-To: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <316069.81809.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- John Karp <johnkarp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm setting up a moinmoin wiki for the first time for a small group
> that uses the internet to coordinate. I want to set it up so that by
> default, none of the wiki-specific actions or toolbars (except for
> 'login') is visible to people without accounts.
> 
> I know the docs give a way of making both the anon and default user
> profiles hide those elements, but I don't want this... I only want to
> pare things down for the anonymous; new accounts should default to
> showing the full wikiness.
> 
> Secondly... is there a way for me to have a different header for just
> the front page? Such as having a fancier image and no written out
> title text? I can resort to having a static page, but I'd rather have
> it modifiable like everything else on the site.
> 
> Thanks,
> John Karp

I am doing something similar at http://www.digitalrockart.org.  Moin is
used as a "companion" wiki to document another application.  An apache
rewrite statement is used to redirect requests for the site default
index page to a wiki page.  wikiconfig.py has a theme_default =
'newbie' (logged in users use a different theme).

The newbie theme sub-classes the fixedleft contributed theme.  There
are no htdocs for the newbie theme, they all come from the sub-classed
theme.  The entire left panel is hard coded in the newbie theme.  To
make it usable for your site, you will have to recode it to point to
the pages you want visitors to view.  If you are interested in using
it, I can add the newbie theme code as an attachment to the fixedleft
theme.

I was thinking of trying to make the newbie theme more flexible by
creating a wiki page with a list of pages that would become the left
sidebar.  Anyone have a tip on how to read/load a wiki page within
theme code so the contents could be stuffed into the current page's
header?

Roger Haase


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs




From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 11:43:14 2008
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:43:14 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding new pages with a script?
In-Reply-To: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>
References: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <4459f0d30803140843i25586a8fyf9bc0ef77308a0c6@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Thomas.

> i have much content in form of text and html files ...
> Is there any way of adding them with a script instead of manually over a
> webbrowser?

What are your rules to import that? What is going to be a page? How
are your going to handle links? Or maybe you don't care about them?

When monolitic documents are migrated into a wiki, the biggest
challenge is usually to transform all those individual pieces into a
good hypertext.

Regards...


-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

http://simplementewiki.org

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/



From fdrake at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 11:53:46 2008
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:53:46 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] Stripping out wiki actions
In-Reply-To: <316069.81809.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>
	<316069.81809.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9cee7ab80803140853m3414621dj63e2315e92beff7f@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Roger Haase
<crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  I was thinking of trying to make the newbie theme more flexible by
>  creating a wiki page with a list of pages that would become the left
>  sidebar.  Anyone have a tip on how to read/load a wiki page within
>  theme code so the contents could be stuffed into the current page's
>  header?

The "Widget" theme does something like this for a sidebar:

  http://moinmo.in/ThemeMarket/Widget


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>
"Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 11:58:26 2008
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:58:26 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] Stripping out wiki actions
In-Reply-To: <316069.81809.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>
	<316069.81809.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3130eec50803140858g23aab3c5l7eb61f0988cf9f9d@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/14/08, Roger Haase wrote:
> An apache
> rewrite statement is used to redirect requests for the site default
> index page to a wiki page.
As long as we are talking about URL rewriting, I have blocked access
to the actions menu due to search robots sucking huge amounts of
bandwidth:


# Block robot access to actions
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} action=
RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} ^677 [OR]
RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} ^65\.55\.208\.7 [OR]
RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} ^208\.99\.195\.54 [OR]
RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} ^66\.249\.67\.82^ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^.*Slurp.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^.*Jeeves.*$ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Gigabot/ [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} LiteFinder [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} MJ12bot [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ConveraCrawler [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^MSRBOT [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^.*larbin.*$
RewriteRule . - [F]

This rule has improved performance in all kinds of ways. There is no
reason a robot need to execute every action available, it just
overloads the server.

-- Gnarlie



From jasonjwwilliams at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 12:30:33 2008
From: jasonjwwilliams at gmail.com (Jason J. W. Williams)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:30:33 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding a subscribable user database to Moin
In-Reply-To: <3130eec50803140356w4cacdf32o54f7e0c9ac6f725d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3130eec50803132055g486c52d0r6367dffe594376b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<bc657ead0803140116n447f3946u8fefc1549095856d@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803140356w4cacdf32o54f7e0c9ac6f725d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3b949f090803140930s100c6926w63dbb77acf995507@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gnarlie,

You might wannna checkout CiviCRM: www.civicrm.org

It satisfies most of your requirements.

-J



On 3/14/08, Gnarlodious <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/14/08, Sebastian Haase wrote:
>
> > It would probably be non-feasable to "completely rewrite MoinMoin" as
> > a Django application ;-)
> I don't know what Django is but I do know that it uses WSGI as Apache
> interface. And there has been much talk of WSGI on this list.
>
> > But more specific: The first thing one would want is that user-logins
> > would be "exchanged" between MoinMoin and
> > Django: so a user who logs into one would automatically get
> > recognized as an existing user in the other.
> That would work for my purposes. Moin doesn't need to do everything I
> want, only that user database be accessible by both scripts.
>
> -- Gnarlie
>
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From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk  Fri Mar 14 12:37:56 2008
From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:37:56 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] Odd layout at 1.6.1
Message-ID: <1205512676.2698.394.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>

The following

    Why is there a line break [[FrontPage|here]] when there are two <<BR>><<BR>> {{{<<BR>>}}} calls?

produces this layout

        Why is there a line break 
        
        here when there are two 
        
        <<BR>> calls?

but 

        Why is there a line break here when there are two 
        <<BR>> calls?
        
when there is only one <<BR>> call.

Why should the number of later <<BR>> calls be influencing layout near
the earlier link? The same thing happens with FootNote (and presumably
other) macro calls where the link is.

Jim





From vincefn at users.sourceforge.net  Fri Mar 14 12:47:43 2008
From: vincefn at users.sourceforge.net (Favre-Nicolin Vincent)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:47:43 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Odd layout at 1.6.1
In-Reply-To: <1205512676.2698.394.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
References: <1205512676.2698.394.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <200803141747.43610.vincefn@users.sourceforge.net>

> Why should the number of later <<BR>> calls be influencing layout near
> the earlier link? The same thing happens with FootNote (and presumably
> other) macro calls where the link is.

   Does this correspond to:
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.6.1LineBreakMacroMakesUnintendedBreaks

  It does not seem to affect the above page @ http://moinmo.in so I guess it's 
fixed in the development version of moinmoin ? I see it on my wiki which runs 
1.6.1.

	Vincent
-- 
Vincent Favre-Nicolin
Universit? Joseph Fourier
http://v.favrenicolin.free.fr
ObjCryst & Fox : http://objcryst.sourceforge.net



From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk  Fri Mar 14 12:56:27 2008
From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:56:27 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] Odd layout at 1.6.1
In-Reply-To: <200803141747.43610.vincefn@users.sourceforge.net>
References: <1205512676.2698.394.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
	<200803141747.43610.vincefn@users.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <1205513787.2698.395.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>

On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 17:47 +0100, Favre-Nicolin Vincent wrote:
> > Why should the number of later <<BR>> calls be influencing layout near
> > the earlier link? The same thing happens with FootNote (and presumably
> > other) macro calls where the link is.
> 
>    Does this correspond to:
> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.6.1LineBreakMacroMakesUnintendedBreaks

Yes, that seems to be the one.

Jim





From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 14 12:27:34 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:27:34 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Stripping out wiki actions
In-Reply-To: <3130eec50803140858g23aab3c5l7eb61f0988cf9f9d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <af51f0d00803132150i23998c9cr96fce9f7ae9eaabd@mail.gmail.com>	<316069.81809.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<3130eec50803140858g23aab3c5l7eb61f0988cf9f9d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DAA776.4020700@gmx.de>

> As long as we are talking about URL rewriting, I have blocked access
> to the actions menu due to search robots sucking huge amounts of
> bandwidth:

BTW, moin 1.6 has url_prefix_actions so one can exclude actions by 
robots.txt (at least for the sane bots).




From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 14 12:29:44 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:29:44 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Odd layout at 1.6.1
In-Reply-To: <1205512676.2698.394.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
References: <1205512676.2698.394.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <47DAA7F8.4060708@gmx.de>

>     Why is there a line break [[FrontPage|here]] when there are two <<BR>><<BR>> {{{<<BR>>}}} calls?

Because of a bug (which initially was a fix :).

Fixed by: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/rev/61fdf0769363

Will be in 1.6.2 soon.




From tja at tja-server.de  Fri Mar 14 16:05:34 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:05:34 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding new pages with a script?
In-Reply-To: <4459f0d30803140843i25586a8fyf9bc0ef77308a0c6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>
	<4459f0d30803140843i25586a8fyf9bc0ef77308a0c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DADA8E.205@tja-server.de>

Eduardo Mercovich schrieb:
> What are your rules to import that? What is going to be a page? How
> are your going to handle links? Or maybe you don't care about them?
> 
> When monolitic documents are migrated into a wiki, the biggest
> challenge is usually to transform all those individual pieces into a
> good hypertext.

I just import the files - if they need a special format-option or other 
handling, it needs to be contained in them already.

In that case, i had html Files, which i begin with a "#format html" or a 
  "{{{#!html" line ... that was added automatically when i create the 
files with other scripts.
But i wanted to read them more easily - therefor the import to my wiki.

Also, i had simple txt, that i included without special markup - if it 
contains WikiLinks, they will be usable ...

That were about 6000 articles from some forums, that i moved into my 
Wiki for reference - they are added to one page for every same topic 
(between one and some dozend artivles per page) and also contain one 
line that references back to the original forum for each original 
article (posting).

 From the "import irclog" skript, i just removed the references to irc 
and the "format plain" ...
Worked nice :)




From vakils at gmail.com  Sun Mar 16 06:50:23 2008
From: vakils at gmail.com (Mohammed Ali V)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:20:23 +0530
Subject: [Moin-user] DocBook rendering breaks with Footnote Macro
Message-ID: <1bb536810803160350t4dd576a1k59e983adaa443027@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

When I try rendering a page that has footnotes to Docbook, the resulting
page is an error. for example try Rendering this page to Docbook:
http://www.moinmo.in/MatthiasPretzer/FootNote

Is this a bug in the 1.6 version?

Mohammed Ali
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From seidel at phaget4.org  Mon Mar 17 12:26:51 2008
From: seidel at phaget4.org (Chris Seidel)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:26:51 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] macro for listing pages by user?
Message-ID: <1205771211.31973@venus.he.net>

Hi,

I'm wondering if there's a way to list all pages edited by a particular
user. I know pages in a wiki aren't tied to users, but in my small
environment, listing pages by user would be like having a table of
contents (because I know who is likely to write on which topics). Since
no one thought to tag the pages with their username in advance, the
pages do not have category tags.

Because I'm forgetful, I'd also like to list on my page, all pages I've
worked on. Any way to do this?

-Chris Seidel




From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 17:13:27 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:13:27 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin 1.6 & HTML iframes
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0803171413kcdab888hf4846719e1bc2fa4@mail.gmail.com>

under Moin 1.5.x, we used to escape to HTML, then use iframes to display
some HTML that we had living on another server. It was crude, but
effective.

With Moin 1.6, it seems this is now blocked.  I understand that this is
normally a security risk, which is probably why it's blocked. But in our
case, our wiki is only accessible from internally (no outside access), and
the HTML pages we're "embedding" are from other internal servers.  (In some
cases, we're merely providing a sudo one-stop place for our internal data,
even though it's spread across various servers).

Is there a way to over-ride this?  If so, what file do I need to edit?

-Rick
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From yahoo at jimpop.com  Mon Mar 17 20:10:35 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:10:35 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] GoogleBot
Message-ID: <7ff145960803171710w717fe23cw81928144ff59c95@mail.gmail.com>

I've noticed that GoogleBot has a UserAgent of "Mozilla/5.0
(compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" and that
EventStats/UserAgents groups GoogleBot in with all "Mozilla/5.0"
browsers.   Is there any way to tweak the code to separate the two?

Tia,

-Jim P.



From el.baby at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 20:26:08 2008
From: el.baby at gmail.com (Mariano Absatz)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:26:08 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] antispam not working automatically?
Message-ID: <47DF0C20.7000400@gmail.com>

Hi,

We're using Moin 1.5.8 in http://simplementewiki.org

We've recently started having spambots hitting us... it's an open wiki 
and we'd like to keep it this way... it's probably not even a good idea 
to use TextCha's if we can avoid it...

The thing is that I enabled the automatic BadContent checking as 
described in http://moinmo.in/AntiSpamGlobalSolution (that is I added 
"from MoinMoin.util.antispam import SecurityPolicy" to the config file).

The BadContent page is being automatically updated, but for some reason 
this isn't preventing pages with content matched by it to be saved...

What's more, if I manually do a 'despam', it finds the page, but when I 
tell it to actually revert the offending page, it says it succeeds, but 
nothing is done...

What can I be doing wrong?

TIA

-- 
Mariano Absatz - "El Baby"
el.baby at gmail.com


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From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Mar 18 08:42:48 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:42:48 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] DocBook rendering breaks with Footnote Macro
In-Reply-To: <1bb536810803160350t4dd576a1k59e983adaa443027@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1bb536810803160350t4dd576a1k59e983adaa443027@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DFB8C8.9040800@gmx.de>


> When I try rendering a page that has footnotes to Docbook, the resulting 
> page is an error. for example try Rendering this page to Docbook:
> http://www.moinmo.in/MatthiasPretzer/FootNote
> 
> Is this a bug in the 1.6 version?

Mikko is currently working on fixing the docbook formatter in the 1.7 
branch. He confirmed that footnotes are broken in 1.6, but will work in 1.7.




From vakils at gmail.com  Tue Mar 18 13:53:32 2008
From: vakils at gmail.com (Mohammed Ali V)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:23:32 +0530
Subject: [Moin-user] DocBook rendering breaks with Footnote Macro
In-Reply-To: <47DFB8C8.9040800@gmx.de>
References: <1bb536810803160350t4dd576a1k59e983adaa443027@mail.gmail.com>
	<47DFB8C8.9040800@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <1bb536810803181053r560c30c3t4aa61c784f903f76@mail.gmail.com>

Super-thanks!

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:

>
> > When I try rendering a page that has footnotes to Docbook, the resulting
> > page is an error. for example try Rendering this page to Docbook:
> > http://www.moinmo.in/MatthiasPretzer/FootNote
> >
> > Is this a bug in the 1.6 version?
>
> Mikko is currently working on fixing the docbook formatter in the 1.7
> branch. He confirmed that footnotes are broken in 1.6, but will work in
> 1.7.
>
>
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From snewdl at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 18 14:39:35 2008
From: snewdl at yahoo.com (R. Yu)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:39:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] disabled new user creation, but still find new accounts?
Message-ID: <861131.78934.qm@web37407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


hello all,

I'm using moin 1.5.7 as a personal CMS.  I've disabled new user creation by modifying userform.py,
as described in the "clean solution" here:
http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/DisableUserCreation

The modification seemed to work:  if I tried to create a new user, I get a "new user accounts
disabled" message and nothing is written to the user/data directory (which currently has write
permission).

However, whenever I check in my data/user directory after some period of time, I always find a
bunch of new users in user/data--the user accounts are created, though the new users can't
actually login.    I'm concerned that I've left a hole in my system for spammers, but for the life
of me, I can't figure out how this happens.  Does anybody know how the new user accounts get
created despite my changes to userform.py?

thanks,
-Rob




From tja at tja-server.de  Tue Mar 18 15:41:41 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:41:41 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] disabled new user creation,
	but still find new accounts?
In-Reply-To: <861131.78934.qm@web37407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <861131.78934.qm@web37407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47E01AF5.2040707@tja-server.de>

R. Yu wrote:
> I'm using moin 1.5.7 as a personal CMS.  I've disabled new user creation by modifying userform.py,
> as described in the "clean solution" here:
> http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/DisableUserCreation
>
> The modification seemed to work:  if I tried to create a new user, I get a "new user accounts
> disabled" message and nothing is written to the user/data directory (which currently has write
> permission).
>
> However, whenever I check in my data/user directory after some period of time, I always find a
> bunch of new users in user/data--the user accounts are created, though the new users can't
> actually login.    I'm concerned that I've left a hole in my system for spammers, but for the life
> of me, I can't figure out how this happens.  Does anybody know how the new user accounts get
> created despite my changes to userform.py?
>   

Why not using an ACL on the UserPreferencs page?
Works work me :)



From tja at tja-server.de  Tue Mar 18 15:44:57 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:44:57 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] disabled new user creation,
	but still find new accounts?
In-Reply-To: <47E01AF5.2040707@tja-server.de>
References: <861131.78934.qm@web37407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47E01AF5.2040707@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <47E01BB9.2010202@tja-server.de>

Thomas wrote:
> Why not using an ACL on the UserPreferencs page?
> Works work me :)
>   

Sorry - that only works because ONLY members of the one and sole group 
can read pages at all ... forgot to say.




From mail at heavy.ch  Tue Mar 18 16:35:22 2008
From: mail at heavy.ch (mail at heavy.ch)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:35:22 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin 1.6 & HTML iframes
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0803171413kcdab888hf4846719e1bc2fa4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c39e1ca0803171413kcdab888hf4846719e1bc2fa4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1205872522.7138.12.camel@lestat.vampyre.home>

Hi

I would use an macro; so you could return the iframe html, like:

def execute(macro, args):
    html= '<iframe src ="http://wantedsite.com/page.php"
width="100%"></iframe>' 
    return macro.formatter.rawHTML(html)

bye
Marcel


Am Montag, den 17.03.2008, 16:13 -0500 schrieb Rick Vanderveer:

> under Moin 1.5.x, we used to escape to HTML, then use iframes to
> display some HTML that we had living on another server. It was crude,
> but effective.  
> 
> With Moin 1.6, it seems this is now blocked.  I understand that this
> is normally a security risk, which is probably why it's blocked. But
> in our case, our wiki is only accessible from internally (no outside
> access), and the HTML pages we're "embedding" are from other internal
> servers.  (In some cases, we're merely providing a sudo one-stop place
> for our internal data, even though it's spread across various
> servers).
> 
> Is there a way to over-ride this?  If so, what file do I need to edit?
> 
> -Rick
> 
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From gunter.matella at catenic.com  Wed Mar 19 08:59:58 2008
From: gunter.matella at catenic.com (Matella, Gunter)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:59:58 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] HowTo Update 1.5.8 to 1.6.1
Message-ID: <DFF5F136E9F2FD4D8B9B92F69647BC4C02318E66@mapibe18.exchange.xchg>

Hello,

 

can someone give me a short overview how to update an existing 1.5.8
moinmoin installation (with an amount of pages) to an 1.6.1 version on
LINUX?

 

The README.migration document inside the 1.6.1 tar only describe the
update procedure of the pages but do not give any information about
updating the binary installation.

 

Should I install the new version parallel to the existing one and then
switching over the configuration (will be not easy...). Or should I
overwrite the existing installation (using same directories)

 

Additional I have to move the python package from 2.3.x to 2.4.x. How
should I handle this task?

 

Any help are welcone!

 

 

Greetings,

 

Gunter Matella

Catenic AG

 

 

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From criley at erad.com  Wed Mar 19 13:45:22 2008
From: criley at erad.com (Charles Riley)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:45:22 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] Some questions regarding standalone server
Message-ID: <47E15132.6020407@erad.com>

Hi,

I'm setting up a moinmoin wiki using the 161 standalone server, and I 
see some things which I don't quite understand.
I created an rpm using the spec file in the 161 tarball, and installed 
that.  Then I created an instance directory using createinstance.sh from 
the moin wiki.
I have the server all set up and running, can edit pages, etc.  But I 
see in the log accesses to files in /moin_static_161/, and I don't find 
that directory in /usr/share/moin, 
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin, or anywhere in my instance 
directory.  It's working.. I just don't see how!

Please help keep an old man from pulling his hair out, and clue me in.

Thanks,

Charles








From yahoo at jimpop.com  Thu Mar 20 15:52:23 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:52:23 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
Message-ID: <7ff145960803201252j79b5544fm372a7aae281f11b@mail.gmail.com>

Is there anyway to change the BadContent ACL to "All:"?

Would doing so cause undesirable issues?

Thx,

-Jim P.



From net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com  Thu Mar 20 18:12:31 2008
From: net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com (Poor Yorick)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:12:31 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] capitalization and sub-pages
Message-ID: <47E2E14F.6090402@pooryorick.com>

It looks like moinmoin pages are case sensitive:  Mydoc and mydoc are both
valid pages, and they are not the same page.  A macro that looks like this:

	<<PageList(regex:.*g.*)>>

Finds a page titled Pub/CategoryIdeas, but it does not find a page titled
pub/CategoryIdeas.  I'd like to limit page names to those that are useable by
the PageList macro.  Wouldn't it be more consistent to either allow PageList to
find pages that don't begin with a capital letter, or to only allow pages that
start with a capital letter.


-- 
Poor Yorick



From mproffitt at adaptiveaero.com  Thu Mar 20 20:04:25 2008
From: mproffitt at adaptiveaero.com (Melissa Proffitt)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:04:25 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] New user needs help
Message-ID: <C4260754BE92435797108F8A17CEAB92@MelissaProffPC>

I am new to MoinMoin and Wikis and I am trying to set up a wiki farm. I have hit a wall and am hoping someone can offer some insight.

This is my directory structure:

adaptivefarm/

                bin/

                                moin.cgi

                config/

                                farmconfig.py

                                adaptivebooks.py

                                adaptiveprojects.py

                underlay/

                wikis/

                                adaptivebooks/

                                                data/

                                adaptiveprojects/

                                                data/



These are the alias commands in httpd.conf:

 Alias /wiki/ "/usr/local/share/moin/htdocs/"

   ScriptAlias /adaptivebooks "/usr/local/share/moin/adaptivefarm/cgi-bin/moin.cgi"

   ScriptAlias /adaptiveprojects "/usr/local/share/moin/adaptivefarm/cgi-bin/moin.cgi"



This is my wiki list in farmconfig.py:

wikis = [

    ("adaptivebooks", r"^adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptivebooks.*$"),

    ("adaptiveprojects", r"^adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptiveprojects.*$"),

]



I call the adaptivebooks wiki with the URL :

https://www.adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptivebooks

I receive the prompt asking for my username and password, but after I input that I get:

"No wiki configuration matching the URL found!"



I have tried numerous different urlregex but evidently have not found the right one.

Can anyone help?

Thank you very much,

Melissa




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From guangrui_wu at gtmc.com.cn  Thu Mar 20 20:51:41 2008
From: guangrui_wu at gtmc.com.cn (=?UTF-8?B?5ZC05bm/55Ge?=)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:51:41 +0800
Subject: [Moin-user] What type of IRC used by moinmo?
Message-ID: <00EA0944-1A91-4835-A1A5-689501059C37@gtmc.com.cn>

Hello!

I want to make a irc server integrating  with moinmoin just like the  
moinmo.in,too.

 From the moinmoin can check the memo of IRC chat.what type of the irc  
is used in moinmo.in

and how to seting up the irc server to intergrate with moinmoin ?









From skip at pobox.com  Thu Mar 20 21:19:34 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:19:34 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] capitalization and sub-pages
In-Reply-To: <47E2E14F.6090402@pooryorick.com>
References: <47E2E14F.6090402@pooryorick.com>
Message-ID: <18403.3366.929377.254466@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>

    Poor>       <<PageList(regex:.*g.*)>>

That is a bit weird.  Does this work?

    <<PageList(regex:(?i).*g.*)>>

It does seem odd that your regular expression wouldn't match both of the
pages you listed.

-- 
Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/



From net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com  Thu Mar 20 21:46:19 2008
From: net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com (Poor Yorick)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:46:19 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] capitalization and sub-pages
In-Reply-To: <18403.3366.929377.254466@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
References: <47E2E14F.6090402@pooryorick.com>
	<18403.3366.929377.254466@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
Message-ID: <47E3136B.6090705@pooryorick.com>

skip at pobox.com wrote:
>     Poor>       <<PageList(regex:.*g.*)>>
> 
> That is a bit weird.  Does this work?
> 
>     <<PageList(regex:(?i).*g.*)>>
> 

That causes nothing to be returned.

-- 
Poor Yorick



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 00:32:09 2008
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:32:09 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
In-Reply-To: <7ff145960803202113v2011e1fbh2471d8d3df8dfc28@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803201252j79b5544fm372a7aae281f11b@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803201952s461750ccr80c1f8a1e5bd6bd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ff145960803202113v2011e1fbh2471d8d3df8dfc28@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3130eec50803202132p630dca8fk17c9ea51a5a7f974@mail.gmail.com>

We've had some discussion in the past about blocking access to
BadContent with ACL in the Moinmaster version. Why it hasn't happened
I dont know. It would basically block access to nonregistered users,
meaning that search engines would not index the page.

-- Gnarlie
http://flickr.com/photos/gnarlodious/


On 3/20/08, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Gnarlodious wrote:
> > Not sure what you mean. The ACL is set at the MoinMaster original, so
> > any changes you make will be overwritten.
>
> Yep, that's my problem. ;-)
>
> > I blocked access to BadContent with a rewite rule:
> >
> > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !.*Gnarlodious\.com
> > RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} BadContent
> > RewriteRule . - [F]
> >
> > This blocks access to all user agents that do not end with
> > "Gnarlodious.com", which is my custom user agent string. It has worked
> > fine for at least 6 months. I was forced into this action because the
> > stats revealed search engines were indexing bad words on my site.
>
> Bingo! I'm seeing that too and want to block access for all
> non-ACL-approved users (which could be from all parts of the world and
> an unknown number of domains).
>
> -Jim P.
>



From yahoo at jimpop.com  Fri Mar 21 00:34:34 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:34:34 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
In-Reply-To: <3130eec50803202132p630dca8fk17c9ea51a5a7f974@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803201252j79b5544fm372a7aae281f11b@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803201952s461750ccr80c1f8a1e5bd6bd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ff145960803202113v2011e1fbh2471d8d3df8dfc28@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803202132p630dca8fk17c9ea51a5a7f974@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7ff145960803202134l484b95d3ic17dd35865d28363@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Gnarlodious
<lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com> wrote:
> We've had some discussion in the past about blocking access to
>  BadContent with ACL in the Moinmaster version. Why it hasn't happened
>  I dont know. It would basically block access to nonregistered users,
>  meaning that search engines would not index the page.

That would be an excellent solution.

Who amongst us has the power to make that edit?

-Jim P.



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 00:41:59 2008
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:41:59 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
In-Reply-To: <7ff145960803202134l484b95d3ic17dd35865d28363@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803201252j79b5544fm372a7aae281f11b@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803201952s461750ccr80c1f8a1e5bd6bd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ff145960803202113v2011e1fbh2471d8d3df8dfc28@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803202132p630dca8fk17c9ea51a5a7f974@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ff145960803202134l484b95d3ic17dd35865d28363@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3130eec50803202141t282bf97aja46b7848744eaca2@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/20/08, Jim Popovitch wrote:

> That would be an excellent solution.
>
> Who amongst us has the power to make that edit?

I assume any of us could make the change, but it has not been
determined what the effect would be to thousands of Moin users. Maybe
Waldmann will weigh in on the subject (again).

-- Gnarlie
http://flickr.com/photos/gnarlodious/



From yahoo at jimpop.com  Fri Mar 21 00:49:05 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:49:05 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
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On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Gnarlodious
<lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/20/08, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>
>
> > That would be an excellent solution.
>  >
>  > Who amongst us has the power to make that edit?
>
>  I assume any of us could make the change, but it has not been
>  determined what the effect would be to thousands of Moin users. Maybe
>  Waldmann will weigh in on the subject (again).

Thankfully it's an Immutable page, imagine the consequences of a wiki
spammer being able to zero out mm.www.de/BadContent and then spam all
the world-writable Moin wiki's

-Jim P.



From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 21 11:34:27 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:34:27 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Some questions regarding standalone server
In-Reply-To: <47E15132.6020407@erad.com>
References: <47E15132.6020407@erad.com>
Message-ID: <1206113667.29210.2.camel@black>

> I have the server all set up and running, can edit pages, etc.  But I 
> see in the log accesses to files in /moin_static_161/, and I don't find 
> that directory in /usr/share/moin, 
> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin, or anywhere in my instance 
> directory.  It's working.. I just don't see how!

The standalone "moin.py" server has some builtin static file server
magically serving that url from wiki/htdocs/ (at least it does when you
just uncompress and start moin.py, no idea about the rpm).





From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 21 11:40:01 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:40:01 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] What type of IRC used by moinmo?
In-Reply-To: <00EA0944-1A91-4835-A1A5-689501059C37@gtmc.com.cn>
References: <00EA0944-1A91-4835-A1A5-689501059C37@gtmc.com.cn>
Message-ID: <1206114001.29210.7.camel@black>

> I want to make a irc server integrating  with moinmoin just like the  
> moinmo.in,too.
> 
>  From the moinmoin can check the memo of IRC chat.what type of the irc  
> is used in moinmo.in
> 
> and how to seting up the irc server to intergrate with moinmoin ?

For the moin IRC channels, we just use the freenode.net IRC network (not
our own server).

We have a supybot ChannelLogger logging all stuff on #moin-dev (so that
we can search for stuff later).

The pushing to the wiki pages is done by a crontab calling moin ...
import irclog...





From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 21 11:45:57 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:45:57 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] New user needs help
In-Reply-To: <C4260754BE92435797108F8A17CEAB92@MelissaProffPC>
References: <C4260754BE92435797108F8A17CEAB92@MelissaProffPC>
Message-ID: <1206114357.29210.14.camel@black>



> adaptivefarm/
> 
>                 bin/
> 
>                                 moin.cgi

>    ScriptAlias /adaptivebooks
> "/usr/local/share/moin/adaptivefarm/cgi-bin/moin.cgi"

bin or cgi-bin?

BTW, using host based farming (*.example.org/PageName) is easier than
path based (example.org/*/PageName).


> wikis = [
> 
>     ("adaptivebooks", r"^adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptivebooks.*$"),
> 
>     ("adaptiveprojects", r"^adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptiveprojects.*
> $"),
> 
> ]
> 
>  
> 
> I call the adaptivebooks wiki with the URL :
> 
> https://www.adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptivebooks
> 

You forgot the www. in your regexes.

I usually use r"^(www\.)?......" so it works with and without www..


> "No wiki configuration matching the URL found!"

Yeah, true, but fixable. :)






From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Mar 21 11:48:27 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:48:27 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] capitalization and sub-pages
In-Reply-To: <47E2E14F.6090402@pooryorick.com>
References: <47E2E14F.6090402@pooryorick.com>
Message-ID: <1206114507.29210.18.camel@black>

> 	<<PageList(regex:.*g.*)>>
> 
> Finds a page titled Pub/CategoryIdeas, but it does not find a page titled
> pub/CategoryIdeas.

That's likely a bug. Look if we already have a bugreport for it on
MoinMoin:MoinMoinBugs and if not, please file one and give many details
as requested in the bug template.





From mproffitt at adaptiveaero.com  Fri Mar 21 12:16:18 2008
From: mproffitt at adaptiveaero.com (Melissa Proffitt)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:16:18 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] New user needs help
In-Reply-To: <mailman.28631.1206114507.31037.moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
References: <mailman.28631.1206114507.31037.moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <0611942695E94E9C96DBF8EA7BFC32C7@MelissaProffPC>

Thanks for the help
> bin or cgi-bin?
>
It is cgi-bin in both places, forgive the typo in email.
> You forgot the www. in your regexes.
>
I love to find out that it should have been obvious? :)
> I usually use r"^(www\.)?......" so it works with and without www..
>
Good to know, thanks.

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>   4. Re: BadContent ACL (Gnarlodious)
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>   7. Re: BadContent ACL (Jim Popovitch)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:51:41 +0800
> From: ??? <guangrui_wu at gtmc.com.cn>
> Subject: [Moin-user] What type of IRC used by moinmo?
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <00EA0944-1A91-4835-A1A5-689501059C37 at gtmc.com.cn>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
> Hello!
>
> I want to make a irc server integrating  with moinmoin just like the
> moinmo.in,too.
>
> From the moinmoin can check the memo of IRC chat.what type of the irc
> is used in moinmo.in
>
> and how to seting up the irc server to intergrate with moinmoin ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:19:34 -0500
> From: skip at pobox.com
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] capitalization and sub-pages
> To: Poor Yorick <net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com>
> Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <18403.3366.929377.254466 at montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>    Poor>       <<PageList(regex:.*g.*)>>
>
> That is a bit weird.  Does this work?
>
>    <<PageList(regex:(?i).*g.*)>>
>
> It does seem odd that your regular expression wouldn't match both of the
> pages you listed.
>
> -- 
> Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:46:19 -0400
> From: Poor Yorick <net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] capitalization and sub-pages
> To: skip at pobox.com
> Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID: <47E3136B.6090705 at pooryorick.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> skip at pobox.com wrote:
>>     Poor>       <<PageList(regex:.*g.*)>>
>>
>> That is a bit weird.  Does this work?
>>
>>     <<PageList(regex:(?i).*g.*)>>
>>
>
> That causes nothing to be returned.
>
> -- 
> Poor Yorick
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:32:09 -0600
> From: Gnarlodious <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID:
> <3130eec50803202132p630dca8fk17c9ea51a5a7f974 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> We've had some discussion in the past about blocking access to
> BadContent with ACL in the Moinmaster version. Why it hasn't happened
> I dont know. It would basically block access to nonregistered users,
> meaning that search engines would not index the page.
>
> -- Gnarlie
> http://flickr.com/photos/gnarlodious/
>
>
> On 3/20/08, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Gnarlodious wrote:
>> > Not sure what you mean. The ACL is set at the MoinMaster original, so
>> > any changes you make will be overwritten.
>>
>> Yep, that's my problem. ;-)
>>
>> > I blocked access to BadContent with a rewite rule:
>> >
>> > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} !.*Gnarlodious\.com
>> > RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} BadContent
>> > RewriteRule . - [F]
>> >
>> > This blocks access to all user agents that do not end with
>> > "Gnarlodious.com", which is my custom user agent string. It has worked
>> > fine for at least 6 months. I was forced into this action because the
>> > stats revealed search engines were indexing bad words on my site.
>>
>> Bingo! I'm seeing that too and want to block access for all
>> non-ACL-approved users (which could be from all parts of the world and
>> an unknown number of domains).
>>
>> -Jim P.
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:34:34 -0400
> From: "Jim Popovitch" <yahoo at jimpop.com>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
> To: Gnarlodious <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com>
> Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID:
> <7ff145960803202134l484b95d3ic17dd35865d28363 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Gnarlodious
> <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We've had some discussion in the past about blocking access to
>>  BadContent with ACL in the Moinmaster version. Why it hasn't happened
>>  I dont know. It would basically block access to nonregistered users,
>>  meaning that search engines would not index the page.
>
> That would be an excellent solution.
>
> Who amongst us has the power to make that edit?
>
> -Jim P.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:41:59 -0600
> From: Gnarlodious <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
> Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID:
> <3130eec50803202141t282bf97aja46b7848744eaca2 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 3/20/08, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>
>> That would be an excellent solution.
>>
>> Who amongst us has the power to make that edit?
>
> I assume any of us could make the change, but it has not been
> determined what the effect would be to thousands of Moin users. Maybe
> Waldmann will weigh in on the subject (again).
>
> -- Gnarlie
> http://flickr.com/photos/gnarlodious/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:49:05 -0400
> From: "Jim Popovitch" <yahoo at jimpop.com>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
> To: Gnarlodious <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com>
> Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID:
> <7ff145960803202149r12cf075v133db39b276f45af at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Gnarlodious
> <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 3/20/08, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>>
>>
>> > That would be an excellent solution.
>>  >
>>  > Who amongst us has the power to make that edit?
>>
>>  I assume any of us could make the change, but it has not been
>>  determined what the effect would be to thousands of Moin users. Maybe
>>  Waldmann will weigh in on the subject (again).
>
> Thankfully it's an Immutable page, imagine the consequences of a wiki
> spammer being able to zero out mm.www.de/BadContent and then spam all
> the world-writable Moin wiki's
>
> -Jim P.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:34:27 +0100
> From: Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Some questions regarding standalone server
> To: moin-user <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Message-ID: <1206113667.29210.2.camel at black>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>> I have the server all set up and running, can edit pages, etc.  But I
>> see in the log accesses to files in /moin_static_161/, and I don't find
>> that directory in /usr/share/moin,
>> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin, or anywhere in my instance
>> directory.  It's working.. I just don't see how!
>
> The standalone "moin.py" server has some builtin static file server
> magically serving that url from wiki/htdocs/ (at least it does when you
> just uncompress and start moin.py, no idea about the rpm).
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:40:01 +0100
> From: Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] What type of IRC used by moinmo?
> To: moin-user <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Message-ID: <1206114001.29210.7.camel at black>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>> I want to make a irc server integrating  with moinmoin just like the
>> moinmo.in,too.
>>
>>  From the moinmoin can check the memo of IRC chat.what type of the irc
>> is used in moinmo.in
>>
>> and how to seting up the irc server to intergrate with moinmoin ?
>
> For the moin IRC channels, we just use the freenode.net IRC network (not
> our own server).
>
> We have a supybot ChannelLogger logging all stuff on #moin-dev (so that
> we can search for stuff later).
>
> The pushing to the wiki pages is done by a crontab calling moin ...
> import irclog...
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:45:57 +0100
> From: Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] New user needs help
> To: moin-user <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Message-ID: <1206114357.29210.14.camel at black>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
>
>> adaptivefarm/
>>
>>                 bin/
>>
>>                                 moin.cgi
>
>>    ScriptAlias /adaptivebooks
>> "/usr/local/share/moin/adaptivefarm/cgi-bin/moin.cgi"
>
> bin or cgi-bin?
>
> BTW, using host based farming (*.example.org/PageName) is easier than
> path based (example.org/*/PageName).
>
>
>> wikis = [
>>
>>     ("adaptivebooks", r"^adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptivebooks.*$"),
>>
>>     ("adaptiveprojects", r"^adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptiveprojects.*
>> $"),
>>
>> ]
>>
>>
>>
>> I call the adaptivebooks wiki with the URL :
>>
>> https://www.adaptiveaerospace.com/adaptivebooks
>>
>
> You forgot the www. in your regexes.
>
> I usually use r"^(www\.)?......" so it works with and without www..
>
>
>> "No wiki configuration matching the URL found!"
>
> Yeah, true, but fixable. :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:48:27 +0100
> From: Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] capitalization and sub-pages
> To: moin-user <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Message-ID: <1206114507.29210.18.camel at black>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>> <<PageList(regex:.*g.*)>>
>>
>> Finds a page titled Pub/CategoryIdeas, but it does not find a page titled
>> pub/CategoryIdeas.
>
> That's likely a bug. Look if we already have a bugreport for it on
> MoinMoin:MoinMoinBugs and if not, please file one and give many details
> as requested in the bug template.
>
>
>
>
>
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From yahoo at jimpop.com  Fri Mar 21 20:31:45 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:31:45 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] BadContent ACL
In-Reply-To: <3130eec50803202141t282bf97aja46b7848744eaca2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803201252j79b5544fm372a7aae281f11b@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803201952s461750ccr80c1f8a1e5bd6bd8@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ff145960803202113v2011e1fbh2471d8d3df8dfc28@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803202132p630dca8fk17c9ea51a5a7f974@mail.gmail.com>
	<7ff145960803202134l484b95d3ic17dd35865d28363@mail.gmail.com>
	<3130eec50803202141t282bf97aja46b7848744eaca2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7ff145960803211731s1cf446a6o222cb541b8251ecf@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Gnarlodious
<lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/20/08, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>
>
> > That would be an excellent solution.
>  >
>  > Who amongst us has the power to make that edit?
>
>  I assume any of us could make the change, but it has not been
>  determined what the effect would be to thousands of Moin users. Maybe
>  Waldmann will weigh in on the subject (again).

Well, Walmann looks to be avoiding the issue ;-), so I poked around
and modified the line in antispam.py that sets the ACL.  Quite a
simple solution for keeping a respectable and polished image for your
wiki.

-Jim P.



From yahoo at jimpop.com  Sat Mar 22 13:40:23 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:40:23 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] Disable Global Macros
Message-ID: <7ff145960803221040q2505e2afl1265abf3420f8b5c@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a cfg option, or other method, to disable some of the Globla
macros?  I google'd a bit and couldn't find anything.

Thx,

-Jim P.



From yahoo at jimpop.com  Sun Mar 23 19:53:51 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:53:51 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] local image linking
Message-ID: <7ff145960803231653x1f5cdff8jee77b2fcb0bffd6a@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know of a macro that will allow for loading/displaying of
image files on the moinmoin server (not attachments).  I would like to
embed some dynamic RRD graphs into a wiki page.

Thx,

-Jim P.



From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Mar 24 08:20:28 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:20:28 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Disable Global Macros
In-Reply-To: <7ff145960803221040q2505e2afl1265abf3420f8b5c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803221040q2505e2afl1265abf3420f8b5c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1206361228.7902.19.camel@black>

> Is there a cfg option, or other method, to disable some of the Globla
> macros?  I google'd a bit and couldn't find anything.

No, you can't.

You could override them via a plugin macro of the same name though.

Why would one want that?





From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Mar 24 08:23:54 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:23:54 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] local image linking
In-Reply-To: <7ff145960803231653x1f5cdff8jee77b2fcb0bffd6a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803231653x1f5cdff8jee77b2fcb0bffd6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1206361434.7902.23.camel@black>

> Does anyone know of a macro that will allow for loading/displaying of
> image files on the moinmoin server (not attachments).  I would like to
> embed some dynamic RRD graphs into a wiki page.

Just use their url!?

For < 1.6:

http://server/image.png

For >= 1.6:

{{http://server/image.png}}





From yahoo at jimpop.com  Mon Mar 24 11:44:31 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:44:31 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] Disable Global Macros
In-Reply-To: <1206361228.7902.19.camel@black>
References: <7ff145960803221040q2505e2afl1265abf3420f8b5c@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206361228.7902.19.camel@black>
Message-ID: <7ff145960803240844k6be64574l628583060fa6942f@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
> > Is there a cfg option, or other method, to disable some of the Globla
>  > macros?  I google'd a bit and couldn't find anything.
>
>  No, you can't.
>
>  You could override them via a plugin macro of the same name though.

Ahh, good idea.

>  Why would one want that?

I'm just trying to reduce potential attack/nuisance vectors, as well
as pare down a wiki to better understand what pieces will need
migrating to v1.6.  For instance AutoAdminGroup has user account names
in it that anybody could very well create on anyone else's wiki....
yet, it takes a config file tweak to enable AutoAdminGroup...however
there is no mention in the docs or .cfg that by enabling a security
policy (something a lot of wiki owners might be keen to doing) that
you would be giving 2 pre-existing users some interesting permissions
on your wiki.

I guess I just keep running into what I would characterize as "soft
security" issues, so this past weekend was spent on minimizing their
potential.

-Jim P.



From yahoo at jimpop.com  Mon Mar 24 11:52:25 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:52:25 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] local image linking
In-Reply-To: <1206361434.7902.23.camel@black>
References: <7ff145960803231653x1f5cdff8jee77b2fcb0bffd6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206361434.7902.23.camel@black>
Message-ID: <7ff145960803240852p3c244934v8872c7f4c8544d63@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a macro that will allow for loading/displaying of
>  > image files on the moinmoin server (not attachments).  I would like to
>  > embed some dynamic RRD graphs into a wiki page.
>
>  Just use their url!?

;-)  there is no url... they exist on the local filesystem (i.e
/var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/)  ;-)

I did softlink the desired images into pages/MyPage/attachments/ and
that worked.... and then it made me wonder about how it seems to have
worked too well and too easily.....   ;-)

-Jim P.



From skip at pobox.com  Mon Mar 24 13:39:12 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 12:39:12 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] local image linking
In-Reply-To: <7ff145960803240852p3c244934v8872c7f4c8544d63@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803231653x1f5cdff8jee77b2fcb0bffd6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206361434.7902.23.camel@black>
	<7ff145960803240852p3c244934v8872c7f4c8544d63@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18407.59200.73792.333474@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>


    Jim> ;-)  there is no url... they exist on the local filesystem (i.e
    Jim> /var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/)  ;-)

Sure there is:

    file://localhost/var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/...

Skip



From yahoo at jimpop.com  Mon Mar 24 17:01:33 2008
From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:01:33 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] local image linking
In-Reply-To: <18407.59200.73792.333474@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
References: <7ff145960803231653x1f5cdff8jee77b2fcb0bffd6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206361434.7902.23.camel@black>
	<7ff145960803240852p3c244934v8872c7f4c8544d63@mail.gmail.com>
	<18407.59200.73792.333474@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
Message-ID: <7ff145960803241401w2be4eed1n6c87b4d44479159f@mail.gmail.com>

2008/3/24  <skip at pobox.com>:
>
>     Jim> ;-)  there is no url... they exist on the local filesystem (i.e
>     Jim> /var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/)  ;-)
>
>  Sure there is:
>
>     file://localhost/var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/...

;-)  (i do hope you meant that in jest)  That would only work from
localhost, not remote hosts, as Moin wouldn't proxy the image but
rather send file://localhost/var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/... directly to the
client browser.

-Jim P.



From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Mar 24 18:38:52 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:38:52 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6.2
Message-ID: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black>

Moin :)

1.6.2 is out, get it from there: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload

2 security fixes and quite some bugfixes and improvements.

Read docs/CHANGES, as ever.

Cheers,

Thomas





From skip at pobox.com  Mon Mar 24 17:30:11 2008
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:30:11 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] local image linking
In-Reply-To: <7ff145960803241401w2be4eed1n6c87b4d44479159f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7ff145960803231653x1f5cdff8jee77b2fcb0bffd6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1206361434.7902.23.camel@black>
	<7ff145960803240852p3c244934v8872c7f4c8544d63@mail.gmail.com>
	<18407.59200.73792.333474@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>
	<7ff145960803241401w2be4eed1n6c87b4d44479159f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18408.7523.394347.594778@montanaro-dyndns-org.local>


    >> file://localhost/var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/...

    Jim> ;-) (i do hope you meant that in jest) That would only work from
    Jim> localhost, not remote hosts, as Moin wouldn't proxy the image but
    Jim> rather send file://localhost/var/tmp/mrtg/rtr2/... directly to the
    Jim> client browser.

Sure, but there wouldn't be any security problems.  It was more-or-less in
jest.

Skip



From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de  Tue Mar 25 03:37:31 2008
From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:37:31 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6.2
In-Reply-To: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black>
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black>
Message-ID: <bc657ead0803250037i7bc2d757w3f17abde4d2e79f6@mail.gmail.com>

This is great -- thanks !

Is docs/CHANGES  somewhere online - so that one can read it before
downloading and extracting the zip file ?
( Maybe it could be (automatically) copied onto moinmo.in !? )

-Sebastian Haase


On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
> Moin :)
>
> 1.6.2 is out, get it from there: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload
>
> 2 security fixes and quite some bugfixes and improvements.
>
> Read docs/CHANGES, as ever.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Mar 25 03:45:18 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:45:18 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6.2
In-Reply-To: <bc657ead0803250037i7bc2d757w3f17abde4d2e79f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black>
	<bc657ead0803250037i7bc2d757w3f17abde4d2e79f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1206431118.16591.6.camel@black>

> Is docs/CHANGES  somewhere online - so that one can read it before
> downloading and extracting the zip file ?
> ( Maybe it could be (automatically) copied onto moinmo.in !? )

All files are browseable in the repository, see:

http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/file/tip/docs/CHANGES

This file is always the latest, for the exact 1.6.2 file use:

http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/file/1.6.2/docs/CHANGES

(currently showing the same)





From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de  Tue Mar 25 04:17:16 2008
From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:17:16 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Two question about migration to moin 1.6.2
Message-ID: <bc657ead0803250117t5b35afe0we703432604c229ca@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply.
Assuming I have currently 1.5.8 installed and running --
I read the "Post 1.5.3 new style migration" instructions:

Post 1.5.3 new style migration
        2 ==============================
        3
        4 First you have to do all steps described in the sections
below or it won't work.
        5
        6 After you have switched to new style migration, the
procedure will be the same
        7 with every moin upgrade, simply follow these steps:
        8
        9   a) First switch to the user of your data directory
(www-data normally):
       10       e. g. sudo -u www-data sh
       11       or su www-data
       12
       13   b) Invoke the following command:
       14       moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir
--wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data
       15
       16       Note: If you did not use setup.py, you can call the
moin script directly. It is
       17       located in MoinMoin/script/moin.py
       18
       19 The new style mig stuff will then load the config for that
wiki, get into its
       20 data_dir, read the meta file content and determine what it
has to do internally.


Two questions:
 I) after changing user, what should be my *current directory* when
executing  "moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir
--wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data"   ?

 II) does the wiki have to be running when executing the "moin
....migration data" script ?
  [I have the desktop (standalone / non-apache) version -- does that
make a difference ?]


Thanks,
Sebastian Haase


On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
> > Is docs/CHANGES  somewhere online - so that one can read it before
> > downloading and extracting the zip file ?
> > ( Maybe it could be (automatically) copied onto moinmo.in !? )
>
> All files are browseable in the repository, see:
>
> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/file/tip/docs/CHANGES
>
> This file is always the latest, for the exact 1.6.2 file use:
>
> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/file/1.6.2/docs/CHANGES
>
> (currently showing the same)



From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Mar 25 07:07:08 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:07:08 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Two question about migration to moin 1.6.2
In-Reply-To: <bc657ead0803250117t5b35afe0we703432604c229ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc657ead0803250117t5b35afe0we703432604c229ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47E8DCDC.9050502@gmx.de>


>  I) after changing user, what should be my *current directory* when
> executing  "moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir
> --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data"   ?

That doesn't matter - assuming that the "moin" command and the MoinMoin 
code can be found via PATH / PYTHONPATH.

If that is not the case, cd moin-1.6.2/ (of an unpacked moin 1.6.2 
tar.gz), then:

MoinMoin/script/moin.py --config-dir=........

>  II) does the wiki have to be running when executing the "moin
> ....migration data" script ?

No. It is rather advisable that it does NOT run (or there could be 
changes while you run the migration).

>   [I have the desktop (standalone / non-apache) version -- does that
> make a difference ?]

No, the data/ dir is the same as from that moin version (likely 1.5.5a).

If above does not work for you: I have written some "my way to migrate" 
docs, you find them as a subpage of my wiki homepage.




From ndbecker2 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 25 08:16:00 2008
From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:16:00 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6.2
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black>
Message-ID: <fsaqe0$bcm$1@ger.gmane.org>

Looks like the bug where my attachments don't directly cause download
(unless written as 
[[attachment:bla.csv|blah.cs|&do=get]]
)
is not fixed in 1.6.2





From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Tue Mar 25 14:09:14 2008
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:09:14 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6 attachments behaviour
In-Reply-To: <fsaqe0$bcm$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black> <fsaqe0$bcm$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <47E93FCA.7010408@waldmann-edv.de>

Hi Neal,

> Looks like the bug where my attachments don't directly cause download
> (unless written as 
> [[attachment:bla.csv|blah.cs|&do=get]]
> )
> is not fixed in 1.6.2

That's intended, not a bug.

Pages and attachments will be unified to "items with a mimetype".

E.g. a wiki page could be a item of type text/x-moin-wiki that contains 
some raw wiki markup.

If you link to that page (that item) and click on the link, you will get 
a rendered view of that item (currently called "action=show" [default]).

Note: It won't download the raw wiki markup into your browser or onto 
your hard disk.

The same is true for attachments now: by default, you get a "rendered" 
view of them if you just link to them and follow the link, not a direct 
download of the item.

Currently that view is rather simple (just the download link + a view of 
the item below), but for the future I see some more enhanced renderers, 
showing some metadata in this rendered view, so it will be more useful 
than now with just the old AttachFile code.

Also, that [[attachment:foo.txt]] markup will get (automatically) 
converted to just [[/foo.txt]] (a sub-item of the current one, like 
attachments currently being stored logically below a page) as soon as we 
have the new storage backend that is capable of storing mimetype objects.

As you see, there is no "attachment:" any more after that change, so we 
won't be easily able to create a different link.

Of course you still can do something like [[target|label|special 
params]] then, there is just no "attachment magic" any more.

A side effect of this change will be that "attachment file names" move 
to PATH_INFO, e.g. http://server/WikiPage/file.png and this will fix the 
annoyance of non-ascii character handling (we can't currently do it so 
that it works for any browser). We maybe will have this URL change in 
advance as it is not dependent on the backend change (but it makes even 
more sense WITH it).

Cheers,

Thomas



From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Tue Mar 25 17:06:16 2008
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:06:16 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6 attachments behaviour
In-Reply-To: <47E93FCA.7010408@waldmann-edv.de>
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black> <fsaqe0$bcm$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<47E93FCA.7010408@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0803251406m4fe8b264udc167d957ef2de0a@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Thomas,
I understand the changes made, and the future implementation of revisioned
attachments will be a HUGE win for Moin!

However, I too am getting hate-mail over the confusion with attachments from
my users.  Is there a way, based on mimetypes or other mechanism, to specify
which files get downloaded and which get displayed?

-Rick



On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Thomas Waldmann <tw at waldmann-edv.de> wrote:

> Hi Neal,
>
> > Looks like the bug where my attachments don't directly cause download
> > (unless written as
> > [[attachment:bla.csv|blah.cs|&do=get]]
> > )
> > is not fixed in 1.6.2
>
> That's intended, not a bug.
>
> Pages and attachments will be unified to "items with a mimetype".
>
> E.g. a wiki page could be a item of type text/x-moin-wiki that contains
> some raw wiki markup.
>
> If you link to that page (that item) and click on the link, you will get
> a rendered view of that item (currently called "action=show" [default]).
>
> Note: It won't download the raw wiki markup into your browser or onto
> your hard disk.
>
> The same is true for attachments now: by default, you get a "rendered"
> view of them if you just link to them and follow the link, not a direct
> download of the item.
>
> Currently that view is rather simple (just the download link + a view of
> the item below), but for the future I see some more enhanced renderers,
> showing some metadata in this rendered view, so it will be more useful
> than now with just the old AttachFile code.
>
> Also, that [[attachment:foo.txt]] markup will get (automatically)
> converted to just [[/foo.txt]] (a sub-item of the current one, like
> attachments currently being stored logically below a page) as soon as we
> have the new storage backend that is capable of storing mimetype objects.
>
> As you see, there is no "attachment:" any more after that change, so we
> won't be easily able to create a different link.
>
> Of course you still can do something like [[target|label|special
> params]] then, there is just no "attachment magic" any more.
>
> A side effect of this change will be that "attachment file names" move
> to PATH_INFO, e.g. http://server/WikiPage/file.png and this will fix the
> annoyance of non-ascii character handling (we can't currently do it so
> that it works for any browser). We maybe will have this URL change in
> advance as it is not dependent on the backend change (but it makes even
> more sense WITH it).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Mar 26 12:35:22 2008
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:35:22 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6 attachments behaviour
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0803251406m4fe8b264udc167d957ef2de0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black>
	<fsaqe0$bcm$1@ger.gmane.org>	<47E93FCA.7010408@waldmann-edv.de>
	<5c39e1ca0803251406m4fe8b264udc167d957ef2de0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47EA7B4A.1020009@gmx.de>

Hi Rick,

> However, I too am getting hate-mail over the confusion with attachments 
> from my users.  Is there a way, based on mimetypes or other mechanism, 
> to specify which files get downloaded and which get displayed? 

Well, it would be a big problem (esp. in the future) to generate 
different links depending on the link target's mimetype (that would have 
a big performance impact as you would have to determine the mimetype of 
every link target to render a page).

Thus, the only place we could handle stuff differently in an automatic 
way is on the rendered view of the link target. But if you just look at 
a non-wiki-page item, wouldn't it be strange to automatically trigger a 
download? What if the user did not want that? Then he would get a 
auto-downloaded no matter what...

If someone has an idea, feel free. :)

Cheers,

Thomas




From net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com  Wed Mar 26 13:37:11 2008
From: net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com (Poor Yorick)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:37:11 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] moin 1.6 attachments behaviour
In-Reply-To: <47EA7B4A.1020009@gmx.de>
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black>	<fsaqe0$bcm$1@ger.gmane.org>	<47E93FCA.7010408@waldmann-edv.de>	<5c39e1ca0803251406m4fe8b264udc167d957ef2de0a@mail.gmail.com>
	<47EA7B4A.1020009@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <47EA89C7.6030101@pooryorick.com>

Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> 
>> However, I too am getting hate-mail over the confusion with attachments 
>> from my users.  Is there a way, based on mimetypes or other mechanism, 
>> to specify which files get downloaded and which get displayed? 
> 
> Well, it would be a big problem (esp. in the future) to generate 
> different links depending on the link target's mimetype (that would have 
> a big performance impact as you would have to determine the mimetype of 
> every link target to render a page).
> 
> Thus, the only place we could handle stuff differently in an automatic 
> way is on the rendered view of the link target. But if you just look at 
> a non-wiki-page item, wouldn't it be strange to automatically trigger a 
> download? What if the user did not want that? Then he would get a 
> auto-downloaded no matter what...
> 
> If someone has an idea, feel free. :)

I'm a rather new moinmoin user, so this may be naive, but the user usually 
knows whether they intend the link to be downloaded or rendered, so how about 
another scheme that the user could explicitly specify:

[[attachmentdownload:myattachment]]

-- 
Poor Yorick



From guangrui_wu at gtmc.com.cn  Wed Mar 26 20:55:34 2008
From: guangrui_wu at gtmc.com.cn (=?UTF-8?B?5ZC05bm/55Ge?=)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:55:34 +0800
Subject: [Moin-user] How to set a mailaddress to my moinmoin?
Message-ID: <40EB3A85-2A3B-4C26-9682-77DE46E82147@gtmc.com.cn>

 From the help I know If I want moinmoin to recive mail,I have to a  
mailaddress for moinmoin.
But how could I have a address of moinmoin,and what shoud I set to  
make this address to my wiki








From tja at tja-server.de  Fri Mar 28 19:23:43 2008
From: tja at tja-server.de (Thomas)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:23:43 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin 1.6.1 uploading JPGs?!?
In-Reply-To: <47ED7DA6.20800@tja-server.de>
References: <1206398332.15472.2.camel@black> <fsaqe0$bcm$1@ger.gmane.org>
	<47E93FCA.7010408@waldmann-edv.de> <47ED7DA6.20800@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <47ED7DFF.10307@tja-server.de>

Hello,
is the only way to show images on a wiki page, to use the new

[[target|{{image|alt|width=123 height=456}}]]
or {{image|alt|params}}

Syntax?

"image" needs to be replaced by an URL and the "params" can be empty.

Are there other ways or formats?

Is there a way to upload such images to the wiki?
Another way then to use Attachments to a page?




From szybalski at gmail.com  Sat Mar 29 12:48:35 2008
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:48:35 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Adding new pages with a script?
In-Reply-To: <47DADA8E.205@tja-server.de>
References: <47DA3DC3.20404@tja-server.de>
	<4459f0d30803140843i25586a8fyf9bc0ef77308a0c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<47DADA8E.205@tja-server.de>
Message-ID: <804e5c70803290948x6f649596pf852ab6f05e2a391@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Thomas <tja at tja-server.de> wrote:
> Eduardo Mercovich schrieb:
>
> > What are your rules to import that? What is going to be a page? How
>  > are your going to handle links? Or maybe you don't care about them?
>  >
>  > When monolitic documents are migrated into a wiki, the biggest
>  > challenge is usually to transform all those individual pieces into a
>  > good hypertext.
>
>  I just import the files - if they need a special format-option or other
>  handling, it needs to be contained in them already.
>
>  In that case, i had html Files, which i begin with a "#format html" or a
>   "{{{#!html" line ... that was added automatically when i create the
>  files with other scripts.
>  But i wanted to read them more easily - therefor the import to my wiki.
>
>  Also, i had simple txt, that i included without special markup - if it
>  contains WikiLinks, they will be usable ...
>
>  That were about 6000 articles from some forums, that i moved into my
>  Wiki for reference - they are added to one page for every same topic
>  (between one and some dozend artivles per page) and also contain one
>  line that references back to the original forum for each original
>  article (posting).
>
>   From the "import irclog" skript, i just removed the references to irc
>  and the "format plain" ...
>  Worked nice :)
>

So what was the final way to import these files?

Could you give instructions:
1. download ? what script
2. issue this command ?  what command

etc...
I am thinking about the same think so if you could tell us exactly
what you need to do that would be great.
Lucas


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From net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com  Mon Mar 31 11:37:35 2008
From: net.sourceforge.lists.moin-user at pooryorick.com (=?utf-8?Q?Poor=20Yorick?=)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:37:35 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] acl_rights_after override page acl
Message-ID: <20080331153735.6157.qmail@station198.com>

Using moin-1.6.1, acl_rights_after looks like this:

acl_rights_after = u"All:read"

A certain page contains one acl that looks like this:

#acl All:read,write

But anonymous users end up without right permissions.  In this scenario, shouldn't the acl processing stop before it gets to acl_rights_after?  If I comment out acl_rights_after in the configuration, anonymous users get read/write access.

Also, I could have sworn that several days ago anonymous users did have write access to this page, but now today they don't.

Anyone encountered similar issues?  The page in question is here:

https://openbugs2.info/secure/moin/Feedback

-- 
Yorick



From mike.freeman.3832 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 13:41:31 2008
From: mike.freeman.3832 at gmail.com (Michael Freeman)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:41:31 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Hierarchical Numbered Lists
Message-ID: <be8917ed0803311041v5b79af60kcc561313635298b0@mail.gmail.com>

I am in the process of moving a hard-copy based Quality System
manual(s) into my moinmoin wiki.  In manuals of this sort, every
paragraph is numbered in a hierarchical manner.

Therefore it would be very useful if I could get numbered lists of the sort:

1.
 1.1
 1.2
   1.2.1
2.

And also be able to set the starting number, so that I would get,
starting at the top of the list on a given page:

4.
 4.1
 4.2
5.

You can do the first part in headers with
 #pragma section-numbers
But you can't set the first-number off-set, and I really don't want
make all of the paragraphs into headers.  (It's just wrong, dammit.)

Apparently there was a feature request made 4 years ago for such
functionality, but it appears to still be open:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1063485&group_id=8482&atid=358482

Is there any hope with this, or should I just start hard-coding the
paragraphs numbers into the paragraphs?

Also, I am using the default "modern" theme.  Is there a theme that
modifies the numbered list behavior in a way that would be useful to
this application?  Or some other resource?

Thanks in advance for any help.

-- 
Michael J. Freeman
Reserve, LA



From rb.proj at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 13:51:18 2008
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:51:18 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] question about
	{{attachment:image.png|align="position"}}
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0802261920s23901b0ap2cd3e16ecbe957dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c39e1ca0802261920s23901b0ap2cd3e16ecbe957dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fsr8am$j23$1@ger.gmane.org>

Rick Vanderveer schrieb:
> All,The new embedding syntax has an intriguing alignment option.  However,
> after some experimentation, I still cannot seem to get it to work.
> 
> For example, {{attachment:image.png|align="right"}} (or top, or bottom)
> doesn't actually do anything.  I tried this on both my own installation, as
> well as http://moinmo.in
> 
> Thoughts on this?  Am I doing something wrong?
> 
> -Rick
> 

Hi Rick

{{attachment:moinmoin.png|MoinMoin|align=right}}

or

{{attachment:moinmoin.png||align=right}}

cheers
Reimar




From rb.proj at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 13:57:46 2008
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:57:46 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Bug in NewPage macros?
In-Reply-To: <20080309191859.660e3637@blacksun.localdomain>
References: <20080309191859.660e3637@blacksun.localdomain>
Message-ID: <fsr8mq$j23$2@ger.gmane.org>

Dmitriy Zotikov schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a problem using <<NewPage>> macros:
> 
> when I choose non-latin page name (such as "???????/???????") for a
> template in the macros, I have "Template
> %D0%A8%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8B/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82
> not found" error.
> 
> Here is an example:
> 
> <<NewPage(???????/???????,???????? ???????, at SELF)>>
> 
> I use:
>   - MoinMoin-1.6.0
>   - Python-2.4.3
> 

fixed in 1.6.2
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.6/rev/d204199bae98

cheers
Reimar




From rb.proj at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 14:23:54 2008
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:23:54 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Hierarchical Numbered Lists
In-Reply-To: <be8917ed0803311041v5b79af60kcc561313635298b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <be8917ed0803311041v5b79af60kcc561313635298b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fsra7q$3hh$1@ger.gmane.org>

Michael Freeman schrieb:
> I am in the process of moving a hard-copy based Quality System
> manual(s) into my moinmoin wiki.  In manuals of this sort, every
> paragraph is numbered in a hierarchical manner.
> 
> Therefore it would be very useful if I could get numbered lists of the sort:
> 
> 1.
>  1.1
>  1.2
>    1.2.1
> 2.
> 
> And also be able to set the starting number, so that I would get,
> starting at the top of the list on a given page:
> 
> 4.
>  4.1
>  4.2
> 5.
> 
> You can do the first part in headers with
>  #pragma section-numbers
> But you can't set the first-number off-set, and I really don't want
> make all of the paragraphs into headers.  (It's just wrong, dammit.)
> 
> Apparently there was a feature request made 4 years ago for such
> functionality, but it appears to still be open:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1063485&group_id=8482&atid=358482
> 
> Is there any hope with this, or should I just start hard-coding the
> paragraphs numbers into the paragraphs?
> 
> Also, I am using the default "modern" theme.  Is there a theme that
> modifies the numbered list behavior in a way that would be useful to
> this application?  Or some other resource?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 

Hi

  1.#4 example
  1. example

see http://moinmo.in/HelpOnLists

cheers
Reimar




From mike.freeman.3832 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 14:36:34 2008
From: mike.freeman.3832 at gmail.com (Michael Freeman)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:36:34 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Hierarchical Numbered Lists
In-Reply-To: <fsra7q$3hh$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <be8917ed0803311041v5b79af60kcc561313635298b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<fsra7q$3hh$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <be8917ed0803311136scfc1d21mc5460b3a98b69c03@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:23 PM, R.Bauer <rb.proj at gmail.com> wrote:
>   1.#4 example
>   1. example
>
>  see http://moinmo.in/HelpOnLists

Thanks, but that only works for the default numbered lists.  It
doesn't give me the proper format for sub-levels:

4.
 1.
 2.
  1.

versus (what I need):

4.
 4.1
 4.2
  4.2.1

Do you really think I went through all the effort of checking the open
feature requests and read through the default PIs to see if #pragma
would be a workable solution, but didn't have the brains to RTFM?


-- 
Michael J. Freeman
Reserve, LA



From rb.proj at gmail.com  Mon Mar 31 14:44:26 2008
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:44:26 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Editing many local files with moin
In-Reply-To: <20080122183116.537abe61@localhost>
References: <20080122011600.0cfecc75@localhost>
	<4795CA35.2060006@gmx.de>	<20080122170440.03c639eb@localhost>
	<4795FCFD.50406@gmx.de> <20080122183116.537abe61@localhost>
Message-ID: <fsrbec$7uv$1@ger.gmane.org>

Dmitriy Zotikov schrieb:
> ?? Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:26:05 +0100
> Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> ????????:
> 
>>> However, I wonder how does http://master.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/* work,
>>> since, AFAIU, all changes made on, say,
>>> http://master.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/ru, *using wiki interface* go to a
>>> trunk tree (or sort of).
>> I have a script transfering the content from there to the po files in 
>> the MoinMoin/i18n/ dir, updating it there and transferring the
>> updated content back to the wiki. It uses wiki xmlrpc to do this.
> 
> Doesn't it seem like a typical task for you? So that there could be a
> simple solution in futute moin versions -- like "Import directory tree"
> action.  You feed a directory to it -- and viola! you have centralized
> RCS with comfortable web-interface.
> 

Hi

that's quite easy to achieve by using a MoinMoin package

http://moinmo.in/HelpOnPackageInstaller

you can write a simple shell script which did the mapping of the file
structure and attachments into the special file MOIN_PACKAGE

MoinMoinPackage|1
AddRevision|page_1|FrontPage|
AddAttachment|2_attachment|song.wav|FrontPage|HansMustermann|thats an
example song.
print|ready

Then you have to create a zip file of page_1, 2_attachment and MOIN_PACKAGE

You can upload that file and install it on your wiki
or you can import it directly using the package command.

cheers
Reimar








From mal at egenix.com  Mon Mar 31 20:43:43 2008
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:43:43 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] [egenix-info] ANN: eGenix MoinMoin action plugins for
 renaming and search&replace
Message-ID: <47F1853F.6010801@egenix.com>

________________________________________________________________________

ANNOUNCING

                eGenix.com Action Plugins for MoinMoin


This announcement is also available on our web-site for online reading:
http://www.egenix.com/company/news/MoinMoin-Action-Plugins-1.0.html

________________________________________________________________________

eGenix and MoinMoin

eGenix uses the MoinMoin wiki implementation internally as knowledge
base and to document product development.

Every now and then we need to do major search&replace on our wiki -
e.g. due to a change in product name or to update an external URL.
Instead of applying the changes manually, we created two new actions
for MoinMoin to simplify this task. Both have proven to be very useful
in day-to-day operation and therefore we are releasing them to the
community under the GPLv2.

"Rename Multiple Pages" Action, Version 1.0
--------------------------------------------

A plugin to quickly rename a whole set of pages in a MoinMoin wiki.


"Search And Replace Multiple Pages" Action, Version 1.0
--------------------------------------------

This plugin can be used to quickly rename a whole set of pages in a
MoinMoin wiki.


eGenix MoinMoin Library
-----------------------

Over time, we expect to release more useful MoinMoin plugins or
patches. We'll be publishing them in our new MoinMoin Library.

     http://www.egenix.com/library/moinmoin/

________________________________________________________________________

More Information

Please see http://www.egenix.com/library/moinmoin/ for more information
and downloads.

Enjoy,
-- 
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eGenix.com

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