From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  1 13:02:22 2007
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 10:02:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user] Page Trail Length is One on 1.6.0
Message-ID: <823642.90961.qm@web36213.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



----- Original Message ----
From: Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de>
To: moin-user <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 5:29:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Page Trail Length is One on 1.6.0


> On 1.6.0 beta 2, I just noticed that when I turn on the page trail,
 it shows only the last page.  Per http://moinmo.in/MoinDev/Storage,
> the page trail is not stored into user_dir, but into the user's
 session data on Moin 1.6.

Is this for an anon user or for a logged in user? Do you see your name
at the top border of modern theme?

> Where is the session data stored?

data/cache/session* iirc.

>  I am running mod_python (perhaps I spoke too soon about mod_python
 working OK).

What auth method do you use?

----------

I am using external_cookie.  The problem was in my external_cookie code, not Mod_python.  I have the page trail working now, but I am not sure this is the way it was intended to work.

The reason I could not see the session data was because there wasn't any.  Following the example in contrib/auth_externalcookie my modified
 version returned the (user-object,False) when the user was authenticated and (None,True) if he was not.  The False prevented the next
 authentication method from being called so no MOIN_SESSION cookie was created (none
 was needed in 1.5.8), and the page trail was not retained.

To create the MOIN_SESSION cookie, I changed external_cookie to call moin_session if the cookie did not exist:
    from MoinMoin.auth import moin_session
    moin_session(request,name=auth_username,login=True,user_obj=user)

Then, to get the page trail saved, I had to put moin_session first in the authentication list:
    auth = [moin_session,external_cookie]
Reversing the above does not create a page trail.  I haven't yet determined where the page trail is saved or why moin_session must be first.

On subsequent calls to external_cookie, if the user is still valid (user_obj,True) is returned, if the user is not valid (None,True) is returned.

The net result is login, logout, and the page trail seem to be working.  One difference between 1.5.8 and 1.6.0 is that on 1.5.8, a user was able to see his page trail from the last session, even if it was a week prior.  On 1.6.0 he will see it only if he logs on again before the MOIN_SESSION cookie expires.

I will test a bit more and update moin master with the revised external_cookie example.

Any insight into why moin_session must be before external_cookie in the auth list?

Roger Haase









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From stefanr at s5r6.in-berlin.de  Sun Dec  2 12:28:49 2007
From: stefanr at s5r6.in-berlin.de (Stefan Richter)
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:28:49 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] usage questions on anti-spam features
Message-ID: <4752EB51.8060600@s5r6.in-berlin.de>

Hi list,

I am (unprivileged) user of a moinmoin wiki site which is currently
somewhat devalued by Chinese link spam bots.  Looking into ways of what
to do about it, some questions came up:

  - What does the "More Actions/ Remove Spam" menue item do?
    (I can't try it out at the moment because I haven't sufficient
    rights at that wiki site.)

  - What do the pages BadContent and LocalBadContent do?

Thanks,
-- 
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-=====-=-=== ==-- ---=-
http://arcgraph.de/sr/



From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  2 13:00:17 2007
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:00:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user] Page Trail Length is One on 1.6.0 - solved
Message-ID: <593465.3778.qm@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>



----- Original Message ----
From: Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de>


What auth method do you use?

------------------
I found that all I had to do was to set the cookie in external_cookie (for 1.6).  

Roger Haase





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From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Dec  3 07:20:51 2007
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:20:51 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] usage questions on anti-spam features
In-Reply-To: <4752EB51.8060600@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
References: <4752EB51.8060600@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1196684451.6035.3.camel@black>


> I am (unprivileged) user of a moinmoin wiki site which is currently
> somewhat devalued by Chinese link spam bots.  Looking into ways of what
> to do about it, some questions came up:
> 
>   - What does the "More Actions/ Remove Spam" menue item do?

It is for someone being in the superuser list, he may revert all edits
of some specific user / ip with a few clicks.

>   - What do the pages BadContent and LocalBadContent do?

BadContent is regularly pulled from the MoinMaster wiki. If some text to
be saved matches a pattern on BadContent, the save will be rejected.

LocalBadContent is for you, to add local patterns that are not
appropriate on a list that is globally distributed. E.g. if you have no
legitimate chinese content, you can just add some chinese chars to get
rid of the chinese spammers.





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Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:28:08 +0300
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From szybalski at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 09:36:23 2007
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:36:23 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] usage questions on anti-spam features
In-Reply-To: <1196684451.6035.3.camel@black>
References: <4752EB51.8060600@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
	<1196684451.6035.3.camel@black>
Message-ID: <804e5c70712030636l6dd66bbah4a90899ac8125326@mail.gmail.com>

On Dec 3, 2007 6:20 AM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
>
> > I am (unprivileged) user of a moinmoin wiki site which is currently
> > somewhat devalued by Chinese link spam bots.  Looking into ways of what
> > to do about it, some questions came up:
> >
> >   - What does the "More Actions/ Remove Spam" menue item do?
>
> It is for someone being in the superuser list, he may revert all edits
> of some specific user / ip with a few clicks.

Could you tell me how to do that with few clicks?
I have added
superuser = [u'JohnDoe', u'JaneDoe', ] to my config.

Now I can go to the page, click remove spam, then it asks me the
author, and I am the only one listed in there? But if you click on
recent changes you see a bunch of pages that were recently created  by
spammers.
Where would I go to see ip addresses and delete by user/ip?

Lucas



From szybalski at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 09:44:31 2007
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:44:31 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] anti-spam features -discuss
Message-ID: <804e5c70712030644m799b0e06qac886b16711e6bd9@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Is there  '''checkbox batch delete''' page where I can delete 30 spam
pages that were created, at once?

How hard would it be do add something like RBL list and spamassassin
like program to moinmoin?

If I delete pages and comment says 'SPAM' the page information should
be submitted to '''spamassassin''' like program which would enable
score based pages action. Depending on score one could disable or
enable save/edit.

If RBL solution existed (this should stop 85%) of the spam as it does
for email spam.
  -The way it works it would check editor/saver ip address to see if
it is listed in RBL anti-spam server. (If he is, he cannot edit/save
page)
  -Ip address should be submited to RBL moin anti-spam server(if page
was deleted with comment '''SPAM''', or reverted with comment
'''SPAM''')(after passing some threshold server will add the ip to its
list)
  - RBL anti-spam server should be an option to enable, and it will work great.

Any ideas? Are there any programs there that would enable these features?

Lucas



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Mon Dec  3 10:06:34 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:06:34 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] anti-spam features -discuss
In-Reply-To: <804e5c70712030644m799b0e06qac886b16711e6bd9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70712030644m799b0e06qac886b16711e6bd9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3130eec50712030706n7278d0a8n11fd588766810dcf@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/3/07, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:

> Is there  '''checkbox batch delete''' page where I can delete 30 spam
> pages that were created, at once?

If you search the archives, just a few weeks ago I posted my spam
solution. I haven't had a spam in about 6 weeks, where before I was
deleting dozens per day.

Note that I used very liberal blocking, but you can narrow it down to
very specific IP addresses.

-- 
Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/Gnarlodious



From stefanr at s5r6.in-berlin.de  Mon Dec  3 14:09:25 2007
From: stefanr at s5r6.in-berlin.de (Stefan Richter)
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:09:25 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] usage questions on anti-spam features
In-Reply-To: <804e5c70712030636l6dd66bbah4a90899ac8125326@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4752EB51.8060600@s5r6.in-berlin.de>	<1196684451.6035.3.camel@black>
	<804e5c70712030636l6dd66bbah4a90899ac8125326@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47545465.90401@s5r6.in-berlin.de>

> On Dec 3, 2007 6:20 AM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
>> BadContent is regularly pulled from the MoinMaster wiki. If some text to
>> be saved matches a pattern on BadContent, the save will be rejected.
>> 
>> LocalBadContent is for you, to add local patterns that are not
>> appropriate on a list that is globally distributed. E.g. if you have no
>> legitimate chinese content, you can just add some chinese chars to get
>> rid of the chinese spammers.

Hmm, I created a new page as a test, containing just one word which I
picked from BadContent.  Also created one with a word from
LocalBadContent.  The page was saved OK and displayed OK.  Could it be
that that wiki site lacks a configuration switch to enable filtering
based on (Local)BadContent?

If this mechanism were working, I suppose it could be highly effective.
Alas I am not administrating that site myself, but at least I can edit
LocalBadContent...
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-=== ==-- ---==
http://arcgraph.de/sr/



From Evans_Plisowski at ra-billich.de  Tue Dec  4 12:10:23 2007
From: Evans_Plisowski at ra-billich.de (Evans Plisowski)
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:10:23 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] tnednacn
Message-ID: <7ACCABB6.BA70838B@ra-billich.de>

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From tp at pfennigsolutions.de  Wed Dec  5 06:26:30 2007
From: tp at pfennigsolutions.de (Thilo Pfennig)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:26:30 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] usage questions on anti-spam features
In-Reply-To: <804e5c70712030636l6dd66bbah4a90899ac8125326@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4752EB51.8060600@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
	<1196684451.6035.3.camel@black>
	<804e5c70712030636l6dd66bbah4a90899ac8125326@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20071205122630.7056fb38@pfennigsolutions.de>

Am Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:36:23 -0600
schrieb "Lukasz Szybalski" <szybalski at gmail.com>:

> But if you click on
> recent changes you see a bunch of pages that were recently created  by
> spammers.
> Where would I go to see ip addresses and delete by user/ip?

I also experienced this. Often these users are listed as possible
spammers:

 a) BadContent
 b) the superuser

I think both should never be listed. A super user catn or should never
be a spammer. OTOH I would say at 40% of all spam the spammer itself is
not listed. I would consider this a bug.

Thilo



From tp at pfennigsolutions.de  Wed Dec  5 06:31:46 2007
From: tp at pfennigsolutions.de (Thilo Pfennig)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:31:46 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] acl Group-info
In-Reply-To: <474D6D7C.4050106@online.de>
References: <474D6D7C.4050106@online.de>
Message-ID: <20071205123146.216c5f47@pfennigsolutions.de>

Am Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:30:36 +0100
schrieb "Kris(R)" <KrisR at online.de>:

> Is there a possibility to costomize massage "You are not allowed to
> see this page" so that
> it should look like "Only users from BlaBlaGroup are allowed to see
> this page",
> where BlaBlaGroup should be read from acl-line

Sure, you will have to find that sentence, though. ;-) Maybe one can
handle this via theme?

Thilo



From kacoroski at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 11:47:28 2007
From: kacoroski at gmail.com (Ski Kacoroski)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:47:28 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] Allowing partial access to a wiki
Message-ID: <20071205084728.13972c58@mango.nsd.org>

Hi,

Is there anyway with ACL's to allow a person or group to have
read, write, and create new pages access to a section of the wiki.  I
have an internal wiki and we have a contractor that needs access to a
page and all pages linked from that page.  I have figured out how to
provide read & write, but not how to allow the contractor to create new
pages.  Thanks in advance for your help.

cheers,

ski

-- 
"When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it
 connected to the entire universe"            John Muir

Chris "Ski" Kacoroski, kacoroski at gmail.com, 206-501-9803
or ski98033 on most IM services and gizmo



From tp at pfennigsolutions.de  Wed Dec  5 13:32:00 2007
From: tp at pfennigsolutions.de (Thilo Pfennig)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:32:00 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Allowing partial access to a wiki
In-Reply-To: <20071205084728.13972c58@mango.nsd.org>
References: <20071205084728.13972c58@mango.nsd.org>
Message-ID: <20071205193200.7ddfe862@pfennigsolutions.de>

Am Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:47:28 -0800
schrieb Ski Kacoroski <kacoroski at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
> 
> Is there anyway with ACL's to allow a person or group to have
> read, write, and create new pages access to a section of the wiki.  I
> have an internal wiki and we have a contractor that needs access to a
> page and all pages linked from that page. 


What you can do is allow creation of sub pages - not linked pages,
unless you do this: add ACLs to every page you link.

So you can give some rights to

ProjectPage/*


But the rules you apply only work on the pages below the page
ProjectPage.

Read HelpOnAutoAdmin about project pages.


Thilo

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From dodecatheon at gmail.com  Wed Dec  5 14:25:14 2007
From: dodecatheon at gmail.com (Ted Stern)
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:25:14 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] Allowing partial access to a wiki
In-Reply-To: <20071205084728.13972c58@mango.nsd.org> (Ski Kacoroski's message
	of "Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:47:28 -0800")
References: <20071205084728.13972c58@mango.nsd.org>
Message-ID: <lspve7d7xlx.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>

On 05 Dec 2007 08:47:28 -0800, Ski Kacoroski wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there anyway with ACL's to allow a person or group to have
> read, write, and create new pages access to a section of the wiki.  I
> have an internal wiki and we have a contractor that needs access to a
> page and all pages linked from that page.  I have figured out how to
> provide read & write, but not how to allow the contractor to create new
> pages.  Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> cheers,
>
> ski

Hi Ski [ex-co-worker with my ex-wife],

All you need to do is give the contractor local admin privileges.  For
example, add this header to your SpecialStuff page [and remove
linefeeds, I couldn't get it all on one line in email].

 #acl SpecialStuff/AdminGroup:admin,read,write,delete,revert
  SpecialStuff/ReadWriteGroup:read,write SpecialStuff/ReadGroup:read All:none

The "All:none" is just an example, you can change that to "All:read"
if your access is less restrictive.

Make appropriate group SubPages (in CategoryGroup), and add your
contractor to the list on the SpecialStuff/AdminGroup page.

All SubPages will inherit permissions, so make sure he creates
sub-pages and not top-level links.  If you need to selectively create
pages elsewhere, you will need to add the same #acl line there before
they can administer it.

Ted
-- 
 dodecatheon at gmail dot com
 Frango ut patefaciam -- I break so that I may reveal



From aschipper at dht.com  Thu Dec  6 14:17:10 2007
From: aschipper at dht.com (=?Windows-1251?B?UmU6IMHo5+3l8Q==?=)
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:17:10 +0300
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From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 10:37:47 2007
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:37:47 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] FrontPage
In-Reply-To: <99f673360711292353k706ce536qdfbaba08f117c7cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99f673360711292353k706ce536qdfbaba08f117c7cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4459f0d30712070737ja404283x5bca6440ca515db9@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Kai.

> [...] A really clever guy failed to find
> the intended way back to the home page. Well, usability is an
> interesting area...

You can bet about it (I work on it, and have more that enough work). ;-)

> So I brought the FronPage tab back into my interface. [...]

I couldn't find yet a user (and I don't usually test with one of your
"really clever guy") that fails to go to the home page when the logo
is:
 * clearly (visually) a logo, and
 * it's positioned in the upper left corner

So before changing the design solution, I would check if it is not a
design implementation problem. Is your site public so we can see it?

Regards...

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

http://simplementewiki.org

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 11:28:00 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 09:28:00 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Customizing the "Standard Links" toolbar...
Message-ID: <3130eec50712070828m610c53a3gcf822c592f9e18ab@mail.gmail.com>

I am attempting to eradicate the "Standard Links" toolbar text that is
inserted into every page. The text looks like this:

<link rel="Index" href="/TitleIndex">
<link rel="Glossary" href="/WordIndex">
<link rel="Help" href="/HelpOnFormatting">

What I am trying to do is make "Index" go to "PageTree" instead of
"TitleIndex". Adding the text to (wikiconfig.py) html_head does not
work, since the Javascript overrides the configuration file.

Where would I disable that text completely? I have searched my servers
for the text to sabotage but nothing comes up.

If "Standard Links" is not enabled in your browser, you will not know
what I am talking about.

--  Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/



From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Fri Dec  7 12:30:42 2007
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:30:42 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] FrontPage
In-Reply-To: <99f673360712070740n53de2e9dx44388b37a94fbc80@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99f673360711292353k706ce536qdfbaba08f117c7cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4459f0d30712070737ja404283x5bca6440ca515db9@mail.gmail.com>
	<99f673360712070740n53de2e9dx44388b37a94fbc80@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4459f0d30712070930j2c78779fs757a9e86c3526726@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Kai.

I copied this to the list because if this is a common problem, this
discussion may be useful to others.

> > I couldn't find yet a user (and I don't usually test with one of your
> > "really clever guy") that fails to go to the home page when the logo
> > is:
> >  * clearly (visually) a logo, and
> >  * it's positioned in the upper left corner
> >
> > So before changing the design solution, I would check if it is not a
> > design implementation problem. Is your site public so we can see it?

> Look at http://aplwiki.aplteam.com/

Mmm... it seems affordable enough to me. However, I am not your user:
if they don't see it, they don't see it.

Possible things to try:
 * make it more "clickable" (border, font, color).
 * make it more "logo" (round border, graphic, and the like).
 * make it part of the navi bar (see attached low fi prototype).

I hope one or more works... :-)

In case the last one could, we can make it part of a theme.

Regards...

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

http://simplementewiki.org

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/
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From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Sat Dec  8 21:36:51 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:36:51 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] FrontPage
In-Reply-To: <4459f0d30712070737ja404283x5bca6440ca515db9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <99f673360711292353k706ce536qdfbaba08f117c7cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<4459f0d30712070737ja404283x5bca6440ca515db9@mail.gmail.com>
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> [...] A really clever guy failed to find
> the intended way back to the home page.

You could create a feedback page wit suggestions:
http://moinmo.in/UsabilityObservation

What you call the page is up to you.

-- 
Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/



From sasha.junkmail at gmail.com  Mon Dec 10 12:23:28 2007
From: sasha.junkmail at gmail.com (Alex Alex)
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:23:28 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] NonExistent page
Message-ID: <90b4ad800712100923r62cb3436hb7454b35307976a9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!
I just installed a moinmoin wiki and have a  problem that probably some of
you encountered in  the past.

When I adding a new page using a link to this page , and click on this link
I get "The page cannot be found"

Documentation says that I should be redirected to "Template page" , but it
doesn't.

How should I fix it?

Thanks ,Alex
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:19:56 +0800
Subject: [Moin-user]
	=?GB2312?B?uanTpqO6vPSw5bv6oaLV283ku/qhor7tsOW7+qGis+W0sqGi0KPGvbv6?=
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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:44:51 +0300
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>   
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>   ??????? ? 14 ??????? ? 2007 ?.
>   ?. K?e? ? ??. ????????????, 1/3 ? ??e?? ??????????
>   ?e?.: (044) 331-64-14, 592-75-64

> ????

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??????????? ????? ?????????? ? ???????????? ??????????? ?????, ??????-??????, 
???????? ???????????? ??????????? Heriot-Watt ??????????????, ????? ??????? ???.

> C?O??????

* 825.00 ?p?. ? ?a ???o?? ???c????a, (?e? ??C, e????? ???o?), ??? 
  ?????? ?? ???? ?????????? ? 1550.00 ???.
* B c?o??o??? ?x????: ?????????????-???????????????? ???????????? 
  ?? ????????, ??????? ??????????, ????-?????, ???? ? ?????????, 
  ?????????? ???????? ? ????? ???????? ? ????????. 

> PE???????

    * 10.00-17.00
    * ?ep?p?? 13.00-14.00
    * Pe??c??a??? c 9.30 ? ????epe??-???? ????? ??????????. 

> PE??C?P????

* ?e?.: (044) 331-6414, 592-7564
* Ka???? ??ac???? ?o???ae? ??x?a??ep???? ?o???e?? ? 
  op????a?? ?o???e??o?: ?o?o??p, a??, op????a? c?e?a, ?o??? c???e?e??c??. 





From Marcin.Kasperski at softax.com.pl  Thu Dec 13 05:43:10 2007
From: Marcin.Kasperski at softax.com.pl (Marcin Kasperski)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:43:10 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin behind proxy - internal port showing up here
	and there
Message-ID: <878x3yan9d.fsf@cauchy.softax.local>


I am using moinmoin at twisted hidden behind nginx reverse proxy.  In
general it works great (and seems noticeably faster than Apache
FastCGI installation I used before). So I have

   public.site:80/WikiPage  =[proxy]=> localhost:8080/WikiPage
         {nginx}                             {moin at twisted}

Unfortunately, from time to time moinmoin happens to redirect
the user to the internal url (localhost:8080/SomePage), or
publishes links with such an address. Those links fail for the
user. Would MoinMoin restrict to relative links (as it does in
most cases), everything would work correctly.

The most apparent such case I found is the title search. It works well
when there are 2 or more replies (or no replies) - the reply page is
displayed and provides correct links. But in case exactly one matching
page is found, I get redirect to the internal URL of this page.

I also observed similar problems in some editing scenarios, although
I did not track them down enough to understand what exactly happens.

(observed on MoinMoin 1.5.3 - the version from Debian stable, if the
problems were corrected later, let me know, maybe this will be some
incencitive to deviate from 'packages only' policy)

-- 
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| Marcin Kasperski   |    You have the right to accept your
| http://mekk.waw.pl | responsibilites instead of having them
|                    |         assigned to you. (Beck)
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From jkbrandcoayba at msn.com  Thu Dec 13 07:03:18 2007
From: jkbrandcoayba at msn.com (Seminar)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:03:18 -0100
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?aSDP8O705fHx6O7t4Ov87eD/IO/w5efl7fLg?=
	=?windows-1251?b?9uj/IPLz8Ojx8uj35fHq6PUg8/Hr8+M=?=
Message-ID: <4c4001c83d77$c421ef60$c15ac1cd@jkbrandcoayba>

                     ???????: 

>    ??????????? ??????? ????????????? ?????
>        
>             20 ???????, ?. ????
>  
>           (044) 2334669 , 2379OO5

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? ????-???????, ?????????????? ??????????.

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????????? ?????????? ? ???????????? ????????, ????????????????? ??????????
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??????????? ???? ? ?? ?????????? ?? ????????? ??????????? ???????? ? ???????
???????????.

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- ???????? ??????-???????????? ??????????; 
- ?????????? ? ????????? ???????????? ?? ?????? ????????.

????????? ??????? ? ????????: 670.00 ???. - ?? ?????? ?????????.
??? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 5% ? 7% ??????????????.

? ????????? ??????: ?????????????-???????????????? ????????????, ???????
??????????, ????-?????, ???? ? ?????????, ?????????? ???????? ? ?????
???????? ? ????????.

????????? ???????: 9.30 ? 17.00.  ??????? 13.00-14.00.
???????????: ? 9.00 ? ?????.

??????????? ?? ????????: (044) 2334669 , 2379OO5





From birdlady at visi.net  Thu Dec 13 11:56:27 2007
From: birdlady at visi.net (=?Windows-1251?B?wiDh8/XjYevy5XDo/g==?=)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:56:27 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?0+/wYeLrZe3o5SDv7vJv6mHs6CDk5e1l5u37?=
	=?windows-1251?b?eCDx8GXk8fLi?=
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From jh at web.de  Thu Dec 13 18:40:02 2007
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:40:02 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin behind proxy - internal port showing up
	here	and there
In-Reply-To: <878x3yan9d.fsf@cauchy.softax.local>
Message-ID: <E1J2xh6-0007kg-00@smtp07.web.de>

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:43:10 +0100, Marcin Kasperski wrote:

>The most apparent such case I found is the title search. It works well
>when there are 2 or more replies (or no replies) - the reply page is
>displayed and provides correct links. But in case exactly one matching
>page is found, I get redirect to the internal URL of this page.

That is simply because HTTP requires FULLY qualified URLs in redirect headers. And 
this is why Tomcat for example has proxy name/port settings, so you can provide 
"fake" correct values. Don't know whether Twisted has such a thing, or whether we 
have Moin proxy config values.


Ciao, J?rgen





From emailmanjula at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 13 23:09:36 2007
From: emailmanjula at yahoo.com (Manjula Kumar)
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:09:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user] (no subject)
Message-ID: <351071.1898.qm@web35508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




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From qgcfuzkbgi at usa.net  Fri Dec 14 03:10:08 2007
From: qgcfuzkbgi at usa.net (=?windows-1251?Q?=C4=E8=E7=E0=E9=ED-=F1=F2=F3=E4=E8=FF
	=EC=E5=E1=E5=EB=E8?=)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:10:08 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?2Org9Pst6vPv5Swg6vP17egsIPHq6OTq4CDk?=
	=?windows-1251?b?7iAxNSAl?=
Message-ID: <ce5201c83e05$01c91969$d06a12c3@computer.nycap.rr.com>

?????? ????!

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?????????? ?? ????? ?????????????? ????????? ?????? ?? ?????.

?? ?????????????:
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????? ????????????: ?? 14 ??????? ????.
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????????? ??????.
???????? ?? ??? ???????.

?? ??????? ?? ???????? ????? ?? ?????-???? - ?????? ?? 15 %.

????? ?????????? ????-????. ?????? ?? 15 %.

  a.. ?????????? ??????? Kraft, Raumplus 
  b.. ??????? ? ????????? 
  c.. ????? ? ?????? 
  d.. ??? ???????????? ????????, ???????, ??????? 
  e.. ????????????? ???

  ? ???????? ???????????? ????????? ??????? ??????????? ??????????????,
  ??????????? ???????????? ????????? ???????????? ? ??????????? ????????????.

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From refundable at zjic.com  Fri Dec 14 03:27:32 2007
From: refundable at zjic.com (Courtoy Antonello)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:32 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] catapult
Message-ID: <1340521384.20071214082542@zjic.com>

God dag,



Virus found in this message, please delete it without futher reading




Gone into it, but as he was so far away the charge it is
a deep black), while in legs and in the too full and too
comic to appeal to a european,.
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From refundable at zjic.com  Fri Dec 14 03:27:38 2007
From: refundable at zjic.com (Courtoy Antonello)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:38 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] catapult
Message-ID: <1340521384.20071214082542@zjic.com>

God dag,



Virus found in this message, please delete it without futher reading




Gone into it, but as he was so far away the charge it is
a deep black), while in legs and in the too full and too
comic to appeal to a european,.
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From refundable at zjic.com  Fri Dec 14 03:27:42 2007
From: refundable at zjic.com (Courtoy Antonello)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:42 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] catapult
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God dag,



Virus found in this message, please delete it without futher reading




Gone into it, but as he was so far away the charge it is
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From: refundable at zjic.com (Courtoy Antonello)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:42 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] catapult
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God dag,



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Gone into it, but as he was so far away the charge it is
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From refundable at zjic.com  Fri Dec 14 03:27:46 2007
From: refundable at zjic.com (Courtoy Antonello)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:46 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] catapult
Message-ID: <1340521384.20071214082542@zjic.com>

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From jbardin at bu.edu  Fri Dec 14 23:02:03 2007
From: jbardin at bu.edu (james bardin)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:02:03 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
Message-ID: <a3b675320712142002h62bbebe3q4e5d4b0c981441f1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

We have a bunch of departments using separate wikis, but all on the same
server in a wikifarm.

I would really love to have an Include() macro that works between the wikis,
something like <<InterwikiInclude(Wikiname, PageName)>>
We use a common login system for the wikis, so usernames are transferable,
and acls could be be correctly enforced.

I have no problem writing the macro myself, I just have no idea where to
start.
Could anyone tell me if they think this is possible in a sane manner?

Thanks
-jim
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From jh at web.de  Sat Dec 15 05:12:51 2007
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:12:51 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
In-Reply-To: <a3b675320712142002h62bbebe3q4e5d4b0c981441f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1J3U2w-0001XM-00@smtp06.web.de>

>I have no problem writing the macro myself, I just have no idea where to start.
>Could anyone tell me if they think this is possible in a sane manner? 

Try to find a way in the APIs to treat the other wiki's pages dir as if it were the 
shadow dir of this wiki, then delegate to the normal include macro. If you need to 
bend a few config variables for that, do that in a try/finally to restore them 
safely!

Ciao, J?rgen





From Vitaliy.Shchupak at deshaw.com  Sat Dec 15 14:10:04 2007
From: Vitaliy.Shchupak at deshaw.com (Shchupak, Vitaliy)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:10:04 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
In-Reply-To: <a3b675320712142002h62bbebe3q4e5d4b0c981441f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a3b675320712142002h62bbebe3q4e5d4b0c981441f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3B@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>

You could use RequestCLI to execute the Include macro in another request
using something like this:
 
from MoinMoin.request import RequestCLI
from MoinMion.user import User
from MoinMoin.formatter.text_html import Formatter
def execute(macro, args):
    # <extract wikiname from args>
    subreq = RequestCLI('localhost/' + wikiname)
    subreq.user = user.User(subreq, name=macro.request.user.name)
    formatter = Formatter(subreq)
    subreq.formatter = formatter
    # now call the Include macro from here on subreq...
    ...
 
Vitaliy



________________________________

	From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of james
bardin
	Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:02 PM
	To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
	Subject: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
	
	
	Hello,
	
	We have a bunch of departments using separate wikis, but all on
the same server in a wikifarm.
	
	I would really love to have an Include() macro that works
between the wikis, something like <<InterwikiInclude(Wikiname,
PageName)>> 
	We use a common login system for the wikis, so usernames are
transferable, and acls could be be correctly enforced.
	
	I have no problem writing the macro myself, I just have no idea
where to start.
	Could anyone tell me if they think this is possible in a sane
manner? 
	
	Thanks
	-jim
	
	

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From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Sat Dec 15 17:59:13 2007
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:59:13 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] NonExistent page
In-Reply-To: <90b4ad800712100923r62cb3436hb7454b35307976a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <90b4ad800712100923r62cb3436hb7454b35307976a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4459f0d30712151459nc5e7814m9afcd6290029d559@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alex.

[...]
> When I adding a new page using a link to this page , and click on this link
> I get "The page cannot be found"
> Documentation says that I should be redirected to "Template page" , but it
> doesn't.

Did you modified your underlay? There is the page that redirects to
"create new, templates or similar pages" when going to a non existent
page...

Regards..

--
EM



From jbardin at bu.edu  Sun Dec 16 00:59:53 2007
From: jbardin at bu.edu (james bardin)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:59:53 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
In-Reply-To: <577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3B@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>
References: <a3b675320712142002h62bbebe3q4e5d4b0c981441f1@mail.gmail.com>
	<577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3B@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>
Message-ID: <a3b675320712152159i3302c333k448161f7df340273@mail.gmail.com>

On Dec 15, 2007 2:10 PM, Shchupak, Vitaliy <Vitaliy.Shchupak at deshaw.com>
wrote:

>  You could use RequestCLI to execute the Include macro in another request
> using something like this:
>
> from MoinMoin.request import RequestCLI
> from MoinMion.user import User
> from MoinMoin.formatter.text_html import Formatter
> def execute(macro, args):
>     # <extract wikiname from args>
>     subreq = RequestCLI('localhost/' + wikiname)
>     subreq.user = user.User(subreq, name=macro.request.user.name)
>     formatter = Formatter(subreq)
>     subreq.formatter = formatter
>     # now call the Include macro from here on subreq...
>     ...
>
> Vitaliy
>
>
Thanks! That's too easy! I'm working on 1.6+1.7 code, so I had to use
request_cli.Request, but otherwise I just inserted the above into the
Request macro. Now comes something a little trickier - I need to rewrite the
links. I know I can do this the dirty way (by parsing the html output from
the macro), but I'd like a cleaner solution, and I'm a little confused whats
getting formatted where?

The links come out formatted for the current wiki, but the css
class="nonexistent" is set from the included wiki. In the end I think I want
to rewrite the links as interwiki links pointing to the same page as was
originally intended, but currently I just don't want valid-looking links
pointing to nonexistent pages.

Thanks
-jim
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From Vitaliy.Shchupak at deshaw.com  Sun Dec 16 01:40:21 2007
From: Vitaliy.Shchupak at deshaw.com (Shchupak, Vitaliy)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:40:21 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
In-Reply-To: <a3b675320712152159i3302c333k448161f7df340273@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a3b675320712142002h62bbebe3q4e5d4b0c981441f1@mail.gmail.com>
	<577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3B@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>
	<a3b675320712152159i3302c333k448161f7df340273@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3D@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>

Try initializing the request with:
subreq = RequestCLI('localhost/' + wikiname,
properties={'script_name':'/'+wikiname})
(may need to me adjusted for 1.6+)
 
Vitaliy



________________________________

	From: jbardin.bu at gmail.com [mailto:jbardin.bu at gmail.com] On
Behalf Of james bardin
	Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:00 AM
	To: Shchupak, Vitaliy
	Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
	Subject: Re: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
	
	
	On Dec 15, 2007 2:10 PM, Shchupak, Vitaliy
<Vitaliy.Shchupak at deshaw.com> wrote:
	

		You could use RequestCLI to execute the Include macro in
another request using something like this:
		 
		from MoinMoin.request import RequestCLI
		from MoinMion.user import User
		from MoinMoin.formatter.text_html import Formatter
		def execute(macro, args):
		    # <extract wikiname from args>
		    subreq = RequestCLI('localhost/' + wikiname)
		    subreq.user = user.User(subreq,
name=macro.request.user.name)
		    formatter = Formatter(subreq)
		    subreq.formatter = formatter
		    # now call the Include macro from here on subreq...
		    ...
		 
		Vitaliy



	Thanks! That's too easy! I'm working on 1.6+1.7 code, so I had
to use request_cli.Request, but otherwise I just inserted the above into
the Request macro. Now comes something a little trickier - I need to
rewrite the links. I know I can do this the dirty way (by parsing the
html output from the macro), but I'd like a cleaner solution, and I'm a
little confused whats getting formatted where? 
	
	The links come out formatted for the current wiki, but the css
class="nonexistent" is set from the included wiki. In the end I think I
want to rewrite the links as interwiki links pointing to the same page
as was originally intended, but currently I just don't want
valid-looking links pointing to nonexistent pages. 
	
	Thanks
	-jim
	
	
	
	
	

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From cgriff at ix.netcom.com  Sun Dec 16 15:58:39 2007
From: cgriff at ix.netcom.com (=?Windows-1251?B?wfN44+Dr8uXw8w==?=)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:58:39 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?0+/w4OLrZe3o5SDvb/Lu6uDs6CDkZe1l5u37?=
	=?windows-1251?b?9SBjcOXk8fLi?=
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From jbardin at bu.edu  Sun Dec 16 18:08:52 2007
From: jbardin at bu.edu (james bardin)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:08:52 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] interwiki include macro
In-Reply-To: <577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3D@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>
References: <a3b675320712142002h62bbebe3q4e5d4b0c981441f1@mail.gmail.com>
	<577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3B@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>
	<a3b675320712152159i3302c333k448161f7df340273@mail.gmail.com>
	<577A9B529B161647A7E166F7C8C394ED4D9F3D@mailnyc3.nyc.deshaw.com>
Message-ID: <a3b675320712161508i275475a3j2ad762dd7f5294ce@mail.gmail.com>

On Dec 16, 2007 1:40 AM, Shchupak, Vitaliy <Vitaliy.Shchupak at deshaw.com>
wrote:

>  Try initializing the request with:
> subreq = RequestCLI('localhost/' + wikiname,
> properties={'script_name':'/'+wikiname})
> (may need to me adjusted for 1.6+)
> Vitaliy
>


That was it.  Any tricks  for inserting the css class="interwiki" into the
links?
I may just format the response with a message saying that the page, and the
links are from another wiki.

Thanks!
-jim
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From melvalynyewtx at msn.com  Mon Dec 17 00:39:59 2007
From: melvalynyewtx at msn.com (Education in ua)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:39:59 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?aSD06O3g7fHu4u4gliD96u7t7uzo9+Xx6ujp?=
	=?windows-1251?b?IOzl7eXk5uzl7fIg5Ov/IPPv8ODi6+Xt9uXi?=
Message-ID: <898e01c84080$06992330$0d43ea9f@melvalynyewtx>

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From bruce.stephens at isode.com  Mon Dec 17 07:26:12 2007
From: bruce.stephens at isode.com (Bruce Stephens)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:26:12 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] editor_quickhelp HelpOnEditing has wrong URL
Message-ID: <80mys9ik2j.fsf@tiny.isode.net>

I have moin running standalone on port 8010, and Apache set up as
recommended for Apache 2:

Alias /wiki-static /usr/share/moin/htdocs
<Location /wiki>
    ProxyPass http://foo.isode.net:8010/
    ProxyPassReverse http://foo.isode.net:8010/
    RequestHeader set X-Moin-Location /wiki/
</Location>

Almost everything seems fine (links work OK, including those in the
navigation bar, and HelpContents there points to
http://foo.isode.net/wiki/HelpContents as it should).

But the links in editor_quickhelp aren't right: they point to
http://foo.isode.net/HelpOnContents and
http://foo.isode.net/SyntaxReference.

So presumably there's some cache left over somewhere, or some extra
configuration that I need to do, but I can't seem to find it.  What am
I missing?



From marlinw at umich.edu  Mon Dec 17 09:29:43 2007
From: marlinw at umich.edu (Marlin Whitaker)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:29:43 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Eliminate BadContent from search results?
Message-ID: <84AB0240-E006-4FB2-88BA-5015D54F4A8A@umich.edu>

I have some users of a MoinMoin wiki who object to the fact that the  
BadContent page is returned as a result in a text search. For example  
(as if one is needed): a search for the word "spot" returns  
BadContent as the first hit. Is there a way to eliminate BadContent  
as a search result?

Thank you.

-- Marlin 



From linhuafeixuavak at msn.com  Mon Dec 17 13:10:07 2007
From: linhuafeixuavak at msn.com (Education in ua)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:10:07 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?aSDO9O7w7Ovl7ejlIPDg5/Dl+Ojy5ev87e7p?=
	=?windows-1251?b?IOTu6vPs5e3y4Pbo6CDk6/8g8fLw7ujy5ev88fLi4A==?=
Message-ID: <55e201c840e0$6ff22010$09126f77@linhuafeixuavak>

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From emailmanjula at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 17 13:06:07 2007
From: emailmanjula at yahoo.com (Manjula Kumar)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:06:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user] Side by side table placement
Message-ID: <161858.14195.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

    I would like to know whether it is possible to place table side by side ie one table beside another table.

Thanks in advance,
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From: emailmanjula at yahoo.com (Manjula Kumar)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:54:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user] How to attach folder
Message-ID: <847666.53407.qm@web35515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
 Can anyone let me know how to attach folder.

Thanks,
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From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 14:02:00 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:02:00 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Eliminate BadContent from search results?
In-Reply-To: <84AB0240-E006-4FB2-88BA-5015D54F4A8A@umich.edu>
References: <84AB0240-E006-4FB2-88BA-5015D54F4A8A@umich.edu>
Message-ID: <3130eec50712171102l1bfec817q220686c2703d1d01@mail.gmail.com>

I will add here the result of my previous conversation (from Waldmann):

> I would like to make the BadContent page unreadable by not logged-in
> users.

As the page is fetched from MoinMaster, that would've needed to be done there.

You maybe could experiment whether the update still works when you set
local ACLs (they will vanish after the update, of course).

> How would I do that? It seems that the page is updated from the
> http://master.moinmo.in/BadContent original. Could it become a
> moin-wide policy to disallow anonymous reading of that file across all
> wikis?

Well, as this is used on very many moin wikis (in many different moin
versions), there should be some test whether this works for everybody first.

> In addition, the BadContent page always shows up in the
> RecentChangesMax macro. Is there some way to exclude it from general
> system recognition?

There is no way (yet). But seeing that it updates is also a good thing,
as you see your updates still work. :)



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 14:07:30 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:07:30 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Eliminate BadContent from search results?
In-Reply-To: <84DDEED1-FF77-4F8B-AED2-FB13FFBF5913@umich.edu>
References: <84AB0240-E006-4FB2-88BA-5015D54F4A8A@umich.edu>
	<3130eec50712171030p515b261fl240113d2506d09cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<84DDEED1-FF77-4F8B-AED2-FB13FFBF5913@umich.edu>
Message-ID: <3130eec50712171107y5982b3dcpa57ea5cd201015ac@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/17/07, Marlin Whitaker wrote:
> Thank you for the information.
> Do you think there is any help out there for this problem?

Apparently my last post was banned because:

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 16): 550 This message matches a
blacklisted regular expression (pharma ban)

That is too bad, because people should see what the virus vector is to
avoid getting infected.

In any case, Waldmann suggested the BadContent page should be blocked
for non-logged-in users. Apparently the search script will then skip
searching the BadContent page. It would need to be done at the
MoinMaster site, since the page is loaded from that site.

-- Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Mon Dec 17 14:13:15 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:13:15 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] How to attach folder
In-Reply-To: <847666.53407.qm@web35515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <847666.53407.qm@web35515.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3130eec50712171113o7b19d53elb809e02190641206@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/17/07, Manjula Kumar wrote:

>  Can anyone let me know how to attach folder.

You would need to compress it with zip or tar or some other archiving scheme.

-- Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/



From baldpate at ctsnet.org  Tue Dec 18 05:02:49 2007
From: baldpate at ctsnet.org (Foulkes Posso)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:02:49 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] cladophora
Message-ID: <1362257691.20071218100454@ctsnet.org>

Halloha,


  Downnloadable Softwaare   
http://www.geocities.com/ghy0hpespaq5nnk/ 



To be due to ignorance or delusion. The soul's interview
with the king, and placed the memorandum betrayed the brotherhood?
from every member of colonel at last called the halt, the
boy sank of what good for you and me to speculate, since
can trust one another's word more fully than the faithful
to her promise, abandoning that prosperity must be no distracting
cares i will look for the has since assumed the less heathen
appellation then the ... Manufacturers' association, ...
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From: baldpate at ctsnet.org (Foulkes Posso)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:02:49 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] cladophora
Message-ID: <1362257691.20071218100454@ctsnet.org>

Halloha,


  Downnloadable Softwaare   
http://www.geocities.com/ghy0hpespaq5nnk/ 



To be due to ignorance or delusion. The soul's interview
with the king, and placed the memorandum betrayed the brotherhood?
from every member of colonel at last called the halt, the
boy sank of what good for you and me to speculate, since
can trust one another's word more fully than the faithful
to her promise, abandoning that prosperity must be no distracting
cares i will look for the has since assumed the less heathen
appellation then the ... Manufacturers' association, ...
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From baldpate at ctsnet.org  Tue Dec 18 05:02:50 2007
From: baldpate at ctsnet.org (Foulkes Posso)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:02:50 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] cladophora
Message-ID: <1362257691.20071218100454@ctsnet.org>

Halloha,


  Downnloadable Softwaare   
http://www.geocities.com/ghy0hpespaq5nnk/ 



To be due to ignorance or delusion. The soul's interview
with the king, and placed the memorandum betrayed the brotherhood?
from every member of colonel at last called the halt, the
boy sank of what good for you and me to speculate, since
can trust one another's word more fully than the faithful
to her promise, abandoning that prosperity must be no distracting
cares i will look for the has since assumed the less heathen
appellation then the ... Manufacturers' association, ...
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From: cassidy at tpgi.com.au (=?Windows-1251?B?0vPw6PHy6Pdl8ero5SDz8evz4+g=?=)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:31:34 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?3fT0Zery6OLt++Ug73Bv5ODm6A==?=
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From kuhnolive at fh-bingen.de  Tue Dec 18 16:18:36 2007
From: kuhnolive at fh-bingen.de (kuhnolive at fh-bingen.de)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:18:36 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] What about a PDF-attachment search, with xapian?
Message-ID: <1198012716.4768392c9aacf@webmail.fh-bingen.de>


I'm looking for a possibility, to search PDF-attachments. There have been some
attempts for it. The idea, to implement the indexer lupy with moinmoin has not
bee finished because of problems. Then in 2006, there was the idea to use
xapian for AdvancedAttachmentSearch and announced to come with
moinmoin-version-1.6, but I can't find an actual state of development. Does
anybody know anything about this planned xapian integration?


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From emailmanjula at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 18 16:32:19 2007
From: emailmanjula at yahoo.com (Manjula Kumar)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:32:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user]  How to add personal page
Message-ID: <140552.57253.qm@web35502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
  Can anyone let me know how to add personal pages.This personal page should not been seen by other wiki users.

And also please let me know how to create pages which can be edited only by a particular person and all other user can only read.

Thanks,
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From dodecatheon at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 16:58:53 2007
From: dodecatheon at gmail.com (Ted Stern)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:58:53 -0800
Subject: [Moin-user] How to add personal page
In-Reply-To: <140552.57253.qm@web35502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (Manjula Kumar's
	message of "Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:32:19 -0800 (PST)")
References: <140552.57253.qm@web35502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <lspir2vu0ki.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>

On 18 Dec 2007 13:32:19 -0800, Manjula Kumar wrote:
>
> Hi All, Can anyone let me know how to add personal pages.This
> personal page should not been seen by other wiki users.
>  
> And also please let me know how to create pages which can be edited
> only by a particular person and all other user can only read.

See
       http://moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists

Basically all you need to do is to add the following line to the top
of a page (in text mode):

#acl SomeUser:read,write,delete,revert All:none


If you want an entire class of pages to have these permissions, just
create SubPages, and they will inherit the same permissions.

Ted
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 Frango ut patefaciam -- I break so that I may reveal



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Tue Dec 18 19:44:18 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:44:18 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] How to attach folder
In-Reply-To: <403372.12687.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <403372.12687.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3130eec50712181644y2156cfa3j57682c3f57fe7df6@mail.gmail.com>

There isn't really any such thing in Moin Wiki. Files on the server
are not organized by actual folders, but show a pseudo-folder URL in
the browser. This means that all pages in the Wiki are in one giant
folder in your FTP window. The slash character in your browser's URL
bar is denoted by the (2f) character code, which leads users to think
there is a folder structure.

-- Gnarlie
- Hide quoted text -


On 12/18/07, Manjula Kumar wrote:
> Is it not possible to attach a folder as it is without compressing it.That
> is when to click on  the link it should led to the folder.
>
> Thanks in Advance for the help,
> Manjula
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Gnarlodious <lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com>
> To: Manjula Kumar <emailmanjula at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Moin <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:13:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] How to attach folder
>
> On 12/17/07, Manjula Kumar wrote:
>
> >  Can anyone let me know how to attach folder.
>
> You would need to compress it with zip or tar or some other archiving
> scheme.
>
> -- Gnarlie
> http://Gnarlodious.com/
>



From andeejay at tiscali.it  Tue Dec 18 21:20:42 2007
From: andeejay at tiscali.it (=?Windows-1251?B?wfN442Hr8mXw?=)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:20:42 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?xOJlIOFv6/z46OUgcGHn7ej2+w==?=
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From galaviel at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 05:59:30 2007
From: galaviel at yahoo.com (Gal Aviel)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:59:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.6.0rc1: Can't start standalone server
Message-ID: <loom.20071219T105321-294@post.gmane.org>

Hi All,

I can't be able to start moin.py like I used to with 1.5.8 (just run it w/ no
additional arguments).
I'm getting the below error message.
Any suggestions? how to start stand-alone server using moin.py and 1.6.x series?
has the documentation not been changed for 1.6?

Might I add that the documentation is very verbose and not very useful. The
installation process (for standalone server at least, which IMHO is what any
user wanting to give Moin a try will do) boils down to few ultra simple
commands, but you get lose in the maze of overly verbose, and duplicated
documentation (repeats itself for every server). Also needs to be pointed out
that Moin installs as a regular python module inside your existing Python
installation, there is no PREFIX to specify for most users if you can write to
your Python installation (are either root or regular user but using your own
compiled python).
TIA, Gal.




Usage: moin [command] [general options] command subcommand [specific options]

Options:
  --version           show program's version number and exit
  -h, --help          show this help message and exit
  -q, --quiet         Be quiet (no informational messages)
  --show-timing       Show timing values [default: False]
  --config-dir=DIR    Path to the directory containing the wiki configuration
                      files. [default: current directory]
  --wiki-url=WIKIURL  URL of a single wiki to migrate e.g. localhost/mywiki/
                      [default: CLI]
  --page=PAGE         wiki page name [default: all pages]


FATAL ERROR: You must specify a command module and name:






From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Dec 19 08:58:17 2007
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:58:17 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] What about a PDF-attachment search, with xapian?
In-Reply-To: <1198012716.4768392c9aacf@webmail.fh-bingen.de>
References: <1198012716.4768392c9aacf@webmail.fh-bingen.de>
Message-ID: <47692379.8080907@gmx.de>

> I'm looking for a possibility, to search PDF-attachments. There have been some
> attempts for it. The idea, to implement the indexer lupy with moinmoin has not
> bee finished because of problems. Then in 2006, there was the idea to use
> xapian for AdvancedAttachmentSearch and announced to come with
> moinmoin-version-1.6, but I can't find an actual state of development.

1.6 will be released soon and will include xapian integration.

There is a rc1 (release candidate 1) currently and there will be a rc2 
soon, so you can just test it.




From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Dec 19 09:14:02 2007
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:14:02 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.6.0rc1: Can't start standalone server
In-Reply-To: <loom.20071219T105321-294@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20071219T105321-294@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4769272A.8050800@gmx.de>

> I can't be able to start moin.py like I used to with 1.5.8 (just run it w/ no
> additional arguments).
> I'm getting the below error message.

This is the moin utility, not the standalone server.

The standalone server script is moin.py in the toplevel directory of the 
distribution archive.

> Might I add that the documentation is very verbose and not very useful. The
> installation process (for standalone server at least, which IMHO is what any
> user wanting to give Moin a try will do) boils down to few ultra simple
> commands, but you get lose in the maze of overly verbose, and duplicated
> documentation (repeats itself for every server). Also needs to be pointed out
> that Moin installs as a regular python module inside your existing Python
> installation, there is no PREFIX to specify for most users if you can write to
> your Python installation (are either root or regular user but using your own
> compiled python).

Well, the docs are in a wiki on http://master.moinmo.in. :)

If you want to do bigger changes there, please first join us on #moin 
IRC channel to discuss about it.


BTW, in 1.6 you can just invoke moin.py from the toplevel dir and it 
will work.



From galaviel at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 12:08:03 2007
From: galaviel at yahoo.com (Gal Aviel)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:08:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.6.0rc1: Can't start standalone server
References: <loom.20071219T105321-294@post.gmane.org> <4769272A.8050800@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <loom.20071219T170151-918@post.gmane.org>



HI Thomas, Thanks for the reply :)
you saved me - it works now.

If I choose to use Moin,I will probably try follow your suggestion and to
contribute to the documentation.

Moin looks like a great product and for a Python geek like me seems a sure bet,
but it's rough around the edges. 

For example, in the (wrong) moin.py script that I used as the stand-alone 
server (At the python insallation,  
.../Python-2.5.1/share/moin/server/moin.py), it says :
 # see the toplevel directory for the real moin.py

Top level directory of what ? 
If it would have said 'top level directory of the installation archive' then I
would have probably picked that up. Although even this does not seem to be main
stream : why look in the installation archive when you have completed a full
installation successfully? usually I delete it. All the files that are of any
meaning should be installed by now. 

Anyway thanks again,

Gal.




From george at galis.org  Wed Dec 19 14:44:35 2007
From: george at galis.org (George Georgalis)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:44:35 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] What about a PDF-attachment search, with xapian?
In-Reply-To: <47692379.8080907@gmx.de>
References: <1198012716.4768392c9aacf@webmail.fh-bingen.de>
	<47692379.8080907@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <20071219194435.GO25131@run.duo>

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 02:58:17PM +0100, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
>> I'm looking for a possibility, to search PDF-attachments. There have been some
>> attempts for it. The idea, to implement the indexer lupy with moinmoin has not
>> bee finished because of problems. Then in 2006, there was the idea to use
>> xapian for AdvancedAttachmentSearch and announced to come with
>> moinmoin-version-1.6, but I can't find an actual state of development.
>
>1.6 will be released soon and will include xapian integration.
>
>There is a rc1 (release candidate 1) currently and there will be a rc2 
>soon, so you can just test it.

just a piece of info: http://swish-e.org/
it has been around for quite a while, 
can't say if/how it compairs to xapian
...at your description.

// George


-- 
George Georgalis, information system scientist <IXOYE><



From emailmanjula at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 19 18:57:04 2007
From: emailmanjula at yahoo.com (Manjula Kumar)
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:57:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user]  Can javascript be used  to design the pages
Message-ID: <217199.45516.qm@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi ALL,
  Can anyone let me know whether Javascript can be used to design moin wiki page.

Thanks,
Manjula




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From keith.c.schwols at intel.com  Thu Dec 20 12:12:21 2007
From: keith.c.schwols at intel.com (Schwols, Keith C)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:12:21 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] acl Group-info
In-Reply-To: <20071205123146.216c5f47@pfennigsolutions.de>
References: <474D6D7C.4050106@online.de>
	<20071205123146.216c5f47@pfennigsolutions.de>
Message-ID: <C8988717494F994FB55775F489CF8C7902AE65A2@azsmsx417.amr.corp.intel.com>

I added the following to the config variables:
    access_denied_msg = '<strong>Check that you are %(login_action)s and
that you are a member of the %(group_access)s<br>Read the %(help_page)s
for Help on requesting access</strong>'
    access_groups = ['OneGroup']

And then modified Page.py to
-            request.write("<strong>%s</strong><br><br>" % _("You are
not allowed to view this page."))
+            request.write("<div id='message'
style='width:33%%;'><strong>%s</strong><br></div><br><br>" %_("You are
not allowed to view this page."))
+           if len(self.cfg.access_denied_msg) > 0:
+             grp_str = ""
+             if len(self.cfg.access_groups) > 0:
+               for c in self.cfg.access_groups:
+                  grp_str = grp_str + self.formatter.pagelink(1,c) + c
+ self.formatter.pagelink(0,c) + ", "
+             grp_str = grp_str[:-2]
+             help_str = (self.formatter.pagelink(1,self.cfg.help_page)
+
+                         self.cfg.help_page +
+                         self.formatter.pagelink(0,self.cfg.help_page))
+             request.write(self.cfg.access_denied_msg %
+                 { "login_action" : self.link_to(request,"logged
in","action=login"),
+                   "group_access" : grp_str,
+                   "front_page"   :
wikiutil.getFrontPage(request).link_to(request,_("Front Page")),
+                   "help_page"    : help_str,
+                 })

Not elegant and it would be better to control via the Theme overrides.
But it can be done.

]<eith

"Divide and rule, a sound motto. Unite and lead, a better one." - Goethe


>-----Original Message-----
>From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-
>bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Thilo Pfennig
>Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:32 AM
>To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: Re: [Moin-user] acl Group-info
>
>Am Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:30:36 +0100
>schrieb "Kris(R)" <KrisR at online.de>:
>
>> Is there a possibility to costomize massage "You are not allowed to
>> see this page" so that
>> it should look like "Only users from BlaBlaGroup are allowed to see
>> this page",
>> where BlaBlaGroup should be read from acl-line
>
>Sure, you will have to find that sentence, though. ;-) Maybe one can
>handle this via theme?
>
>Thilo
>
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From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 18:00:18 2007
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:00:18 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] EOFerror
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0712201500q729631d8pa20de3bed27cdf32@mail.gmail.com>

All,
I'm attempting to duplicate my wiki farm onto a VMware virtual machine (VM
is Windows).  It seems as soon as I copy over all my data and config files
(I have to tweak a few settings so that it's unique on the network, of
course), every time I attempt to hit the wiki, I get a big fat EOFerror.
Any thoughts on what could be causing this???

HEEELLLPPP!  :-)

Below is the error:
------------------

--> -->  EOFError

If you want to report a bug, please save this page and attach it to your bug
report.

   - Show debugging information <javascript:toggleDebugInfo()>
   - Report bug <http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs>
   - Visit MoinMoin wiki <http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FrontPage>

 Traceback

A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function
calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.

   1.

   c:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py<file://c:%5cpython25%5clib%5csite-packages%5cmoinmoin%5crequest.py/>in
   *run* (self=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>)
   1. 1140 # Use localized FrontPage if pagename is empty
      2. 1141 if not pagename:
      3. 1142 self.page = wikiutil.getFrontPage(self)
      4. 1143 else:
      5. 1144 self.page = Page(self, pagename)
      - *self* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>
      - self.*page* = None
      - *global* *wikiutil* = <module 'MoinMoin.wikiutil' from
      'C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.pyc'>
      - wikiutil.*getFrontPage* = <function getFrontPage at
      0x00781370>
   2.

   C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.py<file://c:%5cpython25%5clib%5csite-packages%5cmoinmoin%5cwikiutil.py/>in
   *getFrontPage* (request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
   0x006E7330>)
   1. 684 @return localized page_front_page, if there is a translation
      2. 685 """
      3. 686 return getSysPage(request, request.cfg.page_front_page)
      4. 687
      5. 688
      - *global* *getSysPage* = <function getSysPage at 0x00781330>
      - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>
      - request.*cfg* = <topic.Config instance at 0x0081AC60>
      - request.cfg.*page_front_page* = u'FrontPage'
   3.

   C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.py<file://c:%5cpython25%5clib%5csite-packages%5cmoinmoin%5cwikiutil.py/>in
   *getSysPage* (request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
   0x006E7330>, pagename=u'FrontPage')
   1. 653 """
      2. 654 from MoinMoin.Page import Page
      3. 655 i18n_name = request.getText(pagename, formatted=False)
      4. 656 pageobj = None
      5. 657 if i18n_name != pagename:
      - i18n_name *undefined*
      - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>
      - request.*getText* = <function <lambda> at 0x008333B0>
      - *pagename* = u'FrontPage'
      - formatted *undefined*
      - *builtin* *False* = False
   4.

   c:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py<file://c:%5cpython25%5clib%5csite-packages%5cmoinmoin%5crequest.py/>in
   ** (text=u'FrontPage', i18n=<module 'MoinMoin.i18n' from
   'C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.pyc'>, request=<
   MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>, lang='en',
   **kv={'formatted': False})
   1. 208 # but generated content like search results should use the user
      language.
      2. 209 self.content_lang = self.cfg.language_default
      3. 210 self.getText = lambda text, i18n=self.i18n,
      request=self, lang=self.lang, **kv: i18n.getText(text, request,
      lang,
      kv.get('formatted', True))
      4. 211
      5. 212 self.opened_logs = 0
      - self *undefined*
      - *text* = u'FrontPage'
      - *i18n* = <module 'MoinMoin.i18n' from
      'C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.pyc'>
      - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>
      - *lang* = 'en'
      - *kv* = {'formatted': False}
      - i18n.*getText* = <function getText at 0x008335B0>
      - kv.*get* = <built-in method get of dict object at 0x00823ED0>
      - *builtin* *True* = True
   5.

   C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.py<file://c:%5cpython25%5clib%5csite-packages%5cmoinmoin%5ci18n%5c__init__.py/>in
   *getText* (str=u'FrontPage',
request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGIobject at 0x006E7330>, lang='en',
formatted=False)
   1. 255 global _text_cache
      2. 256 if not lang in _text_cache:
      3. 257 (texts, unformatted) = loadLanguage(request, lang)
      4. 258 # XXX add error handling
      5. 259 _text_cache[lang] = texts
      - texts *undefined*
      - unformatted *undefined*
      - *global* *loadLanguage* = <function loadLanguage at
      0x00833470>
      - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>
      - *lang* = 'en'
   6.

   C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.py<file://c:%5cpython25%5clib%5csite-packages%5cmoinmoin%5ci18n%5c__init__.py/>in
   *loadLanguage* (request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
   0x006E7330>, lang='en')
   1. 126 if not needsupdate:
      2. 127 try:
      3. 128 (uc_texts, uc_unformatted) = pickle.loads(cache.content
      ())
      4. 129 except (IOError, ValueError, pickle.UnpicklingError): #
      bad pickle data, no pickle
      5. 130 if debug: request.log("i18n: pickle %s load failed" %
      lang)
      - uc_texts *undefined*
      - uc_unformatted *undefined*
      - *global* *pickle* = <module 'cPickle' (built-in)>
      - pickle.*loads* = <built-in function loads>
      - *cache* = <MoinMoin.caching.CacheEntry instance at 0x008381C0>
      - cache.*content* = <bound method CacheEntry.content of <
      MoinMoin.caching.CacheEntry instance at 0x008381C0>>

EOFError

   - args = ()
   - message = ''

 System Details

   - Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:59:10 +0000
   - Platform: win32 (nt)
   - Python: Python 2.5.1 (C:\python25\python.exe)
   - MoinMoin: Release 1.5.7 (release)
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From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Thu Dec 20 22:23:10 2007
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:23:10 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] EOFerror
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0712201500q729631d8pa20de3bed27cdf32@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c39e1ca0712201500q729631d8pa20de3bed27cdf32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0712201923o609e7f6aq5504cc2684c03880@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I solved my own problem.

I've been attempting to clone my wiki installation onto a virtual machine so
that I can test 1.6rc2. In this process, I was copying the files from my
backup server.  On a whim, I decided to copy the files directly from the
main server.  Voila!  It worked perfectly!

The problem is that I had a filter on my backup script to ignore 'cache'
directories (why should I back up a cache folder?!).  As I just discovered--
very bad idea. (it was a real "oh crap!" moment). Apparently, the lack of
this contents of these folders (the sub-folders, perhaps?) was enough to
break everything.

I'm very veeeerrry glad to have discovered this while setting up a test
server, and not finding out while recovering from a system crash!

I corrected the Windows Moin Backup page, I hope this change gets propagated
to the other translations quickly!
http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnInstalling/Win32MoinEasyBackup

-Rick




On Dec 20, 2007 5:00 PM, Rick Vanderveer <rick.vanderveer at gmail.com> wrote:

> All,
> I'm attempting to duplicate my wiki farm onto a VMware virtual machine (VM
> is Windows).  It seems as soon as I copy over all my data and config files
> (I have to tweak a few settings so that it's unique on the network, of
> course), every time I attempt to hit the wiki, I get a big fat EOFerror.
> Any thoughts on what could be causing this???
>
> HEEELLLPPP!  :-)
>
> Below is the error:
> ------------------
>
> --> -->  EOFError
>
> If you want to report a bug, please save this page and attach it to your
> bug report.
>
>    - Show debugging information
>    - Report bug <http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs>
>    - Visit MoinMoin wiki <http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FrontPage>
>
>  Traceback
>
> A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function
> calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.
>
>    1.
>
>    c:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py in *run* (self=<
>    MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>)
>    1. 1140 # Use localized FrontPage if pagename is empty
>       2. 1141 if not pagename:
>       3. 1142 self.page = wikiutil.getFrontPage (self)
>       4. 1143 else:
>       5. 1144 self.page = Page(self, pagename)
>       - *self* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>
>       - self.*page* = None
>       - *global* *wikiutil* = <module 'MoinMoin.wikiutil' from
>       'C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.pyc'>
>       - wikiutil.*getFrontPage* = <function getFrontPage at
>       0x00781370>
>    2.
>
>    C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.py in *getFrontPage*(request=<
>    MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>)
>    1. 684 @return localized page_front_page, if there is a translation
>       2. 685 """
>       3. 686 return getSysPage(request, request.cfg.page_front_page)
>       4. 687
>       5. 688
>       - *global* *getSysPage* = <function getSysPage at 0x00781330>
>       - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
>       0x006E7330>
>       - request.*cfg* = <topic.Config instance at 0x0081AC60>
>       - request.cfg.*page_front_page* = u'FrontPage'
>    3.
>
>    C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.py in *getSysPage*(request=<
>    MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>,
>    pagename=u'FrontPage')
>    1. 653 """
>       2. 654 from MoinMoin.Page import Page
>       3. 655 i18n_name = request.getText(pagename, formatted=False)
>       4. 656 pageobj = None
>       5. 657 if i18n_name != pagename:
>       - i18n_name *undefined*
>       - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
>       0x006E7330>
>       - request.*getText* = <function <lambda> at 0x008333B0>
>       - *pagename* = u'FrontPage'
>       - formatted *undefined*
>       - *builtin* *False* = False
>    4.
>
>    c:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py in **(text=u'FrontPage', i18n=<module '
>    MoinMoin.i18n' from
>    'C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.pyc'>, request=<
>    MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>, lang='en',
>    **kv={'formatted': False})
>    1. 208 # but generated content like search results should use the
>       user language.
>       2. 209 self.content_lang = self.cfg.language_default
>       3. 210 self.getText = lambda text, i18n=self.i18n,
>       request=self, lang=self.lang, **kv: i18n.getText(text,
>       request, lang,
>       kv.get('formatted', True))
>       4. 211
>       5. 212 self.opened_logs = 0
>       - self *undefined*
>       - *text* = u'FrontPage'
>       - *i18n* = <module 'MoinMoin.i18n' from
>       'C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.pyc'>
>       - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
>       0x006E7330>
>       - *lang* = 'en'
>       - *kv* = {'formatted': False}
>       - i18n.*getText* = <function getText at 0x008335B0>
>       - kv.*get* = <built-in method get of dict object at
>       0x00823ED0>
>       - *builtin* *True* = True
>    5.
>
>    C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.py in *getText*(str=u'FrontPage', request=<
>    MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at 0x006E7330>, lang='en',
>    formatted=False)
>    1. 255 global _text_cache
>       2. 256 if not lang in _text_cache:
>       3. 257 (texts, unformatted) = loadLanguage(request, lang)
>       4. 258 # XXX add error handling
>       5. 259 _text_cache[lang] = texts
>       - texts *undefined*
>       - unformatted *undefined*
>       - *global* *loadLanguage* = <function loadLanguage at
>       0x00833470>
>       - *request* = <MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
>       0x006E7330>
>       - *lang* = 'en'
>    6.
>
>    C:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\i18n\__init__.py in *
>    loadLanguage* (request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object at
>    0x006E7330>, lang='en')
>    1. 126 if not needsupdate:
>       2. 127 try:
>       3. 128 (uc_texts, uc_unformatted) = pickle.loads(cache.content
>       ())
>       4. 129 except (IOError, ValueError, pickle.UnpicklingError): #
>       bad pickle data, no pickle
>       5. 130 if debug: request.log("i18n: pickle %s load failed" %
>       lang)
>       - uc_texts *undefined*
>       - uc_unformatted *undefined*
>       - *global* *pickle* = <module 'cPickle' (built-in)>
>       - pickle.*loads* = <built-in function loads>
>       - *cache* = <MoinMoin.caching.CacheEntry instance at
>       0x008381C0>
>       - cache.*content* = <bound method CacheEntry.content of <
>       MoinMoin.caching.CacheEntry instance at 0x008381C0>>
>
> EOFError
>
>    - args = ()
>    - message = ''
>
>  System Details
>
>    - Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:59:10 +0000
>    - Platform: win32 (nt)
>    - Python: Python 2.5.1 (C:\python25\python.exe)
>    - MoinMoin: Release 1.5.7 (release)
>
>
>
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Dec 21 10:41:24 2007
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:41:24 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] EOFerror
In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0712201923o609e7f6aq5504cc2684c03880@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c39e1ca0712201500q729631d8pa20de3bed27cdf32@mail.gmail.com>
	<5c39e1ca0712201923o609e7f6aq5504cc2684c03880@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <476BDEA4.40207@gmx.de>

Hi Rick,

> The problem is that I had a filter on my backup script to ignore 'cache' 
> directories (why should I back up a cache folder?!).  As I just 
> discovered-- very bad idea. (it was a real "oh crap!" moment). 
> Apparently, the lack of this contents of these folders (the sub-folders, 
> perhaps?) was enough to break everything.

It should be no problem starting with an empty cache directory (you do 
this also when installing from scratch).

What might be a problem is when you run 1.6 on a 1.5 (or even older) 
cache directory.

Cheers,

Thomas



From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 11:24:16 2007
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:24:16 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] EOFerror
In-Reply-To: <476BDEA4.40207@gmx.de>
References: <5c39e1ca0712201500q729631d8pa20de3bed27cdf32@mail.gmail.com>
	<5c39e1ca0712201923o609e7f6aq5504cc2684c03880@mail.gmail.com>
	<476BDEA4.40207@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0712210824r3500ff20w739aede2f399f9ca@mail.gmail.com>

Well, something somewhere clearly got hung up on it. I removed that filter
(exclude 'cache' directories), re-ran the backup, then restored from backup
onto my test virtual machine and everything was good!  I'm guessing that
perhaps there was no cache directory at all (not just an empty 'cache'
directory), and the lack of it's presence was enough to freak Moin out (i.e.
no code to create the directory, if one doesn't already exist).

Anyway, the whole point to this exercise is to test migration from 1.5.x to
1.6 on Windows. I definitely ran into some rough patches (made difficult
because I'm not a Python programmer, just a lowly IT admin ;-), but was able
to eventually get a working version up and running. Today I'm going to
re-run the migration and document the steps (which I will then thoroughly
document on moinmaster:
http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnWin32).

-Rick


On Dec 21, 2007 9:41 AM, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Rick,
>
> > The problem is that I had a filter on my backup script to ignore 'cache'
> > directories (why should I back up a cache folder?!).  As I just
> > discovered-- very bad idea. (it was a real "oh crap!" moment).
> > Apparently, the lack of this contents of these folders (the sub-folders,
> > perhaps?) was enough to break everything.
>
> It should be no problem starting with an empty cache directory (you do
> this also when installing from scratch).
>
> What might be a problem is when you run 1.6 on a 1.5 (or even older)
> cache directory.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Thomas
>
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From szybalski at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 11:50:40 2007
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:50:40 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] moinmoin and double slash "//"
In-Reply-To: <804e5c70711050707m6951d0b8nace5ade8e529676a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70711050707m6951d0b8nace5ade8e529676a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <804e5c70712210850j2f28be4fj999683f3f67cc495@mail.gmail.com>

I've posted a bug on this. Does anybody have an idea of what might cause this?

http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/LinksAndTwoForwardSlashes

Thanks,
Lucas

On Nov 5, 2007 9:07 AM, Lukasz Szybalski <szybalski at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Now on my debian installation for some reason i get the "//" before a link
> > so front page has link to NewPage, but link looks like :
> >
> > http://192.168.1.1/mywiki//NewPage
> > so i click on it. It shows a front page again. I need to click on
> > NewPage again but this time it is correct.
> > Final link is:
> >
> > http://192.168.1.1/mywiki//NewPage/NewPage
> > but now i get this if i click on Front Page
> > http://192.168.1.1/mywiki//NewPage/FrontPage
> >
> > What is wrong?
>
>
> my apache config that relates to mywiki
> xxx at xxx:/etc/apache2$ grep -R "mywiki" *
> conf.d/wiki:<Location /mywiki>
> conf.d/wiki:PythonPath "['/var/www/mywiki','/etc/moin/']+sys.path"
>
>
> and moin config
> xx at xxx:/etc/moin$ grep -R "mywiki" *
> farmconfig.py:    (it has a single rule mapping all requests to mywiki.py).
> farmconfig.py:    ("mywiki",  r".*"),   # this is ok for a single wiki
> farmconfig.py:    # The return address, e.g u"J?rgen Wiki
> <noreply at mywiki.org>" [Unicode]
> mywiki.py:    data_dir = '/var/www/mywiki/data/'
> mywiki.py:    data_underlay_dir = '/var/www/mywiki/underlay/'
>
>
> I have these settings on two different systems. In one I don't get
> that "//" in the other one I do. Same versions etc. What else can I do
> to eliminate this problem?
>
> Lucas
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Vim auto completion for python
> http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/FrontPage#head-8ce19b13e89893059e126b719bebe4ee32fe103c
> TurboGears from start to finish:
> http://www.lucasmanual.com/mywiki/TurboGears
>



-- 
-- 
Vim auto completion for python
http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/FrontPage#head-8ce19b13e89893059e126b719bebe4ee32fe103c
TurboGears from start to finish:
http://www.lucasmanual.com/mywiki/TurboGears

From KrisR at online.de  Fri Dec 21 11:42:30 2007
From: KrisR at online.de (Kris(R))
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:42:30 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] event calendar refresh
Message-ID: <476BECF6.2050109@online.de>

Hi,
I installed not that long ago a local moin-moin wiki with EventCalendar 
macro.
I'm quite satisfied but... sorry there should be but, if not I wouldn't 
write.
When I add new events to calendar they are not displayed event if I refresh
actual calendar page in browser.
Helpful is removing of cache file (calevents_20071121-20080106) directly
in moin-moin tree. As a temporary solution I've put a cron-hourly job to
wipe out calendar cache directory.

Now question -- what should I do that after every editing page cache will be
cleaned?

kind regards and Merry Christmas
kris



From p.f.moore at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 05:31:42 2007
From: p.f.moore at gmail.com (Paul Moore)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 10:31:42 +0000
Subject: [Moin-user] moinmoin and double slash "//"
In-Reply-To: <804e5c70712210850j2f28be4fj999683f3f67cc495@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70711050707m6951d0b8nace5ade8e529676a@mail.gmail.com>
	<804e5c70712210850j2f28be4fj999683f3f67cc495@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79990c6b0712220231r3c05a7c5tb1b3bdb8e349a1a8@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/12/2007, Lukasz Szybalski <szybalski at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've posted a bug on this. Does anybody have an idea of what might cause this?
>
> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/LinksAndTwoForwardSlashes
>
> Thanks,
> Lucas

Did you follow http://moinmo.in/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheWithModPython
particularly the section "Solving problems for non-root-mounted
wikis"? You might need something like

<Location /mywiki>
    # Location value must match the Apache Location value!
    PythonOption Location /mywiki
</Location>

as it says in that section.

Paul



From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 17:23:50 2007
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:23:50 -0300
Subject: [Moin-user] Side by side table placement
In-Reply-To: <161858.14195.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <161858.14195.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4459f0d30712221423j59fb5f31m9b291c98788438d7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi.

>  I would like to know whether it is possible to place table side by side
> ie one table beside another table.

Yes, use de section macro.

Regards...

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.

http://simplementewiki.org

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/



From comp.moin at andzy.imap.cc  Sun Dec 23 08:30:34 2007
From: comp.moin at andzy.imap.cc (Andrew Malcolmson)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:30:34 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Apache startup not finding MoinMoin module
Message-ID: <1198416634.9444.1227992375@webmail.messagingengine.com>

I'm upgrading my Moin install on Debian Etch from the Debian package
version to 1.6.0rc1, but I can't get Moin to start when run through
moin.cgi.  When starting it from moin.py it works.  Before upgrading my
Moin version and changing PREFIX to /usr/local, this worked.

My Apache log shows:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/andmalc/wiki/moin.cgi", line 29, in ?
    import MoinMoin
ImportError: No module named MoinMoin
[Sun Dec 23 08:08:11 2007] [error] [client 67.71.9.102] Premature end of
script headers: /home/andmalc/wiki/moin.cgi

The Pythonpath import lines in moin.cgi are:

# Path of the directory where wikiconfig.py is located.
# YOU NEED TO CHANGE THIS TO MATCH YOUR SETUP.
sys.path.insert(0, '/home/andmalc/wiki')

# Path to MoinMoin package, needed if you installed with --prefix=PREFIX
# or if you did not use setup.py.
sys.path.insert(0, '/usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/')

The above is on the default Pythonpath anyway.

My Debian Python default is 2.4 and if I run it interactively 'import
MoinMoin' works.  I've tried symlinking my MoinMoin install to the
site-packages directories for Python 2.3 and 2.5 that are also on this
machine.

-------------------
Andrew Malcolmson




From steveo at syslang.net  Sun Dec 23 10:43:32 2007
From: steveo at syslang.net (Steven W. Orr)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:43:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Moin-user] Problem understanding BadContent
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999999.0712231031470.8579@saturn.syslang.net>

I *just* discovered that I had about 100+ pages that were probably created 
by Chinese spammers. I really don't know what I'm doing but I'm learning. 
So I went through all of the pages and deleted the spam. I also went 
through and manually deleted all of the users that created the spam. 
*Then* I found out about the existence of BadContent.

I'm running moin-1.5.6. I went to create BadContent and discovered that it 
was already there and that there were 57 revisions with the most recent 
being just a couple of days ago. I'm not too dumb so I have to assume that 
this means that the file is automagically updating. What I did not see was 
that the page was enabled (like the docs said I needed to do). How can I 
tell if this is all working correctly?

Thanks, and Merry Festivus!

-- 
Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have  .0.
happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0
Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000
individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question?
steveo at syslang.net



From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com  Sun Dec 23 12:21:16 2007
From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:21:16 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Problem understanding BadContent
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999999.0712231031470.8579@saturn.syslang.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.0.999999.0712231031470.8579@saturn.syslang.net>
Message-ID: <3130eec50712230921x2c225beex873e92743c52c6e9@mail.gmail.com>

BadContent doesn't actually stop spammers, it only prevents them from
posting words that are blocked.

The Chinese spammers are all operating out of Chinese IP addresses. I
have used the Apache htaccess blocking method and haven't had a spam
in a few months. Search the archives for recent posts that explain in
detail how I did it.

-- Gnarlie
http://Gnarlodious.com/Gnarlodious




On 12/23/07, Steven W. Orr <steveo at syslang.net> wrote:
> I *just* discovered that I had about 100+ pages that were probably created
> by Chinese spammers. I really don't know what I'm doing but I'm learning.
> So I went through all of the pages and deleted the spam. I also went
> through and manually deleted all of the users that created the spam.
> *Then* I found out about the existence of BadContent.
>
> I'm running moin-1.5.6. I went to create BadContent and discovered that it
> was already there and that there were 57 revisions with the most recent
> being just a couple of days ago. I'm not too dumb so I have to assume that
> this means that the file is automagically updating. What I did not see was
> that the page was enabled (like the docs said I needed to do). How can I
> tell if this is all working correctly?
>
> Thanks, and Merry Festivus!
>



From george at galis.org  Sun Dec 23 18:50:01 2007
From: george at galis.org (George Georgalis)
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:50:01 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] acl for sub pages
Message-ID: <20071223235001.GC1681@run.duo>


I thought I saw in the doc that a sub page inherits the acl of its
enclosing directory. I think I see a pattern here but I'd like
some clarification. Is this a bug?

Two pages are below (each starting with an acl) I find that All
can read MyName/PrivateArea/SubPage (and it's linked in recent
changes) even though only MyName can read MyName/PrivateArea


#acl MyName:read,write,delete,revert All:read
= MyName =

./PrivateArea



#acl MyName:read,write,delete,revert All:none
= MyName/PrivateArea =

./SubPage


Presumably All:read (purpose was to make MyName readonly for
others) is first match for All on MyName/PrivateArea/SubPage
(which is immutable for others) Must I put an acl on each
PrivateArea/SubPage or is there a simpler way to limit everything
below PrivateArea to MyName?

Also, is there any way to not list PrivateArea/SubPage in recent
changes?

// George


-- 
George Georgalis, information system scientist <IXOYE><



From jbardin at bu.edu  Mon Dec 24 00:06:11 2007
From: jbardin at bu.edu (james bardin)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:06:11 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] acl for sub pages
In-Reply-To: <20071223235001.GC1681@run.duo>
References: <20071223235001.GC1681@run.duo>
Message-ID: <a3b675320712232106l5396b361w588a4c2da5770ab5@mail.gmail.com>

On Dec 23, 2007 6:50 PM, George Georgalis <george at galis.org> wrote:

>
> Presumably All:read (purpose was to make MyName readonly for
> others) is first match for All on MyName/PrivateArea/SubPage
> (which is immutable for others) Must I put an acl on each
> PrivateArea/SubPage or is there a simpler way to limit everything
> below PrivateArea to MyName?
>

Hierarchical ACL's are only available by default in 1.6.
If you're using 1.6,  you need to set "acl_hierarchic = True" in your
config.



>
> Also, is there any way to not list PrivateArea/SubPage in recent
> changes?
>
>
Only pages a user can read are shown in RecentChanges.

Best,
-jim
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Dec 25 18:49:44 2007
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 00:49:44 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin 1.6.0 released
Message-ID: <1198626584.5690.1.camel@black>

Moin,

there's new stuff to play with!

See http://moinmo.in/ ! :)

Cheers,

Thomas





From szybalski at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 14:15:39 2007
From: szybalski at gmail.com (Lukasz Szybalski)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:15:39 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] moinmoin and double slash "//"
In-Reply-To: <79990c6b0712220231r3c05a7c5tb1b3bdb8e349a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <804e5c70711050707m6951d0b8nace5ade8e529676a@mail.gmail.com>
	<804e5c70712210850j2f28be4fj999683f3f67cc495@mail.gmail.com>
	<79990c6b0712220231r3c05a7c5tb1b3bdb8e349a1a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <804e5c70712261115h13bc3aeegeb5633b143a95cb3@mail.gmail.com>

On Dec 22, 2007 4:31 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/12/2007, Lukasz Szybalski <szybalski at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've posted a bug on this. Does anybody have an idea of what might cause this?
> >
> > http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/LinksAndTwoForwardSlashes
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lucas
>
> Did you follow http://moinmo.in/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheWithModPython
> particularly the section "Solving problems for non-root-mounted
> wikis"? You might need something like
>
> <Location /mywiki>
>     # Location value must match the Apache Location value!
>     PythonOption Location /mywiki
> </Location>
>
> as it says in that section.
>
> Paul
>

Thanks,
that did it.

Lucas



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http://lucasmanual.com/mywiki/FrontPage#head-8ce19b13e89893059e126b719bebe4ee32fe103c
TurboGears from start to finish:
http://www.lucasmanual.com/mywiki/TurboGears



From aline.guedes at gmail.com  Wed Dec 26 14:54:46 2007
From: aline.guedes at gmail.com (Aline Guedes)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:54:46 -0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Apache with mod_wsgi problem
Message-ID: <758e74a50712261154m12fef496p15eb079edfc16ede@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am trying to run moin 1.5.8 over mod_wsgi but I am having some problems
with it. Though my apache logs don't show any errors, when I try to access
the application it hangs forever. Moinmoin works fine with moin.cgi, so I
believe it must be some configuration error or maybe a problem my with
mod_wsgi installation.

According to
http://moinmo.in/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheWithModWSGI#head-fdc461b3291d1d5921e881ab4072ab3d8e1fc108,
I should add the following line to my vhost configuration file:

WSGIScriptAlias /mywiki /var/www/moin/mywiki/moin.wsgi

I couldn't find the file moin.wsgi anywhere, is this the same as
../share/moin/server/moinwsgi.py? I am using it in my vhost configuration
(copied it to a different location though, which is not the same as where my
wiki instance is). If this is the right file, should I rename it?

My vhost file doesn't have any Location directives and I only have one wiki
instance - in case that matters. I don't know what could be wrong with my
configuration or mod_wsgi installation. If anyone has any ideas, please
help!

Thanks in advance,
Aline
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From gerry at cheapeatstoronto.com  Wed Dec 26 22:13:09 2007
From: gerry at cheapeatstoronto.com (Gerry Thorpe)
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:13:09 -0500
Subject: [Moin-user] Deleting revisions?
Message-ID: <47731845.6050501@cheapeatstoronto.com>

Greetings,

I am running the Desktop version on a relatively small USB stick.

I LOVE it!

Alas, there will be a time when, mostly because of revisions, i will
not have any more space on the stick.

Is it possible to 'compress' or drop some of the revisions without
affecting the wiki?

I realize that i won't be able to revert.

Please advise.

Thanks,
Gerry Thorpe



From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Dec 27 05:20:43 2007
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:20:43 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Deleting revisions?
In-Reply-To: <47731845.6050501@cheapeatstoronto.com>
References: <47731845.6050501@cheapeatstoronto.com>
Message-ID: <1198750843.5877.7.camel@black>


> Alas, there will be a time when, mostly because of revisions, i will
> not have any more space on the stick.

Well, maybe by that time, there will also be some dirt cheap bigger usb
stick. :)

> Is it possible to 'compress' or drop some of the revisions without
> affecting the wiki?

There is no tool for that yet.

You can manually remove page revisions, though. If you can live without
statistics, you can also get rid of even.log from time to time (truncate
it).

Maybe with some future backend, there will be some compression /
bundling / purge policy (I think we'll need that as soon as we will have
revisioned binary items).





From mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de  Thu Dec 27 04:52:11 2007
From: mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de (Mark Ziegler)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:52:11 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Deleting revisions?
In-Reply-To: <47731845.6050501@cheapeatstoronto.com>
References: <47731845.6050501@cheapeatstoronto.com>
Message-ID: <200712271052.11865.mark.ziegler@rakekniven.de>

Am Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2007 schrieb Gerry Thorpe:
> Greetings,

>
> Is it possible to 'compress' or drop some of the revisions without
> affecting the wiki?
Get a tool like WinDirStat or kdirstat and find out which page decreases your 
disk space. Then delete the older revisions of that pages.

> I realize that i won't be able to revert.
That's the only thing.

Cheers,
Mark



From mail at heavy.ch  Thu Dec 27 15:52:04 2007
From: mail at heavy.ch (mail at heavy.ch)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:52:04 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Wildcard for xapian-search?
Message-ID: <1198788724.8713.11.camel@lestat>

Hi there

I'm using now the 1.6.0 release with Xapian 1.0.4 and PyStemmer 1.0.1.

And I found out that XAPIAN do not a wildcard search per default. Even
with ?*? it doesn't work! You need explicit do a regex. this is true to
the title and text search. I do not like this, 'coz to do a regex is not
very user friendly! 

On the Xapian Search Site I found out that: ?This feature is disabled by
default? but it should be possible to expand it for wildcard searches.
http://www.xapian.org/docs/queryparser.html. Is this now a
MoinMoin-Thing or should I need to change something in the Xapian-Search
(Omega) Engine?

--> Could anybody confirm this and maybe tell me  'bout any plans to
change this behavior or where I need to look for a fix?


thanks
Marcel


p.s.
Found those sites 'bout xapian; but only the last one seems to me
uptodate...
1. http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/ExtendedSearch
2. http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/AdvancedXapianSearch
3. http://moinmo.in/XapianIntegration
4. http://moinmo.in/HelpOnXapian









From linux at rehse.org  Thu Dec 27 22:08:38 2007
From: linux at rehse.org (Uwe Rehse)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:08:38 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Howto migrate from Moinmoin 1.5.8 -> Moinmoin 1.6.0 ?
Message-ID: <477468B6.6050306@rehse.org>


Greetings,

during this night I have installed the new MoinMoin release 1.6.0 on
my openSuSE 10.3 (Python 2.5.1) PC. Because I'm a long time MoinMoin
user with several installations (with a few thousand pages) in my
company the installation finished with no problems; the test wiki
(that means a new instance) is working as expected.

But the migration of an existing 1.5.8-wiki failed: I have created a
new 1.6.0 instance, copy the files 1.5.8-wiki/data/pages to the direc-
tory 1.6.0-wiki/data/pages and called the script

moin --config-dir=/usr/share/moin/1.6.0-wiki
--wiki-url=http://localhost/1.6.0-wiki migration data

(following README.migration)

The script finished with the message
------------
Calling migration script for /usr/local/share/moin/jumbonet/data, base revision
1060000
Final mig script reached, migration is complete.
------------

But the result is not as expected: the new MoinMoin wiki uses a different
syntax for macros & links: e.g. new <<Include(..)>>, old [[Include(..)]];
the syntax for named HTML-links changed too. The "old"-syntax seems not to
work anymore and the migration procedure did not convert the old syntax in to
the new one.
So, unfortunately, at the moment the "migrated" 1.6.0-wiki is completely
useless for me.

I tried to update a working 1.5.8 installation to 1.6.0 on another system
with the same unsatisfying result.

May be I was doing something wrong during the migration procedure; but
reading the manuals and searching at the moinmoin-homepage (and asking
Google...) did not provide a solution...

Could you give me any hint howto to solve the described problem ?

Thanks,

Uwe




From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 00:32:40 2007
From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:32:40 -0600
Subject: [Moin-user] script error while migrating from 1.5 to 1.6
Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0712272132m320d1680q9301db1bb250a718@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to be hitting an error while attempting to migrate from 1.5 to 1.6 on
a Windows installation:

After getting 1.6 installed (wiki comes up, but links are all broken), I'm
trying to run the migration script.  I ran this:
D:\> d:\python25\python
D:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\moin.py --config-dir=d:\moin
--wiki-url=wiki.cognitivearts.com/topic migration data

And I get this:
Calling migration script for D:\moin\projects\topic\data, base revision
1050400
Returned. New rev is 1050500.
Calling migration script for D:\moin\projects\topic\data, base revision
1050500
Returned. New rev is 1050600.
Calling migration script for D:\moin\projects\topic\data, base revision
1050600
Returned. New rev is 1050700.
Calling migration script for D:\moin\projects\topic\data, base revision
1050700
Returned. New rev is 1050800.
Calling migration script for D:\moin\projects\topic\data, base revision
1050800
Returned. New rev is 1059999.
Calling migration script for D:\moin\projects\topic\data, base revision
1059999
You must first edit D:\moin\projects\topic\data\rename1.txt.
For editing it, please use an editor that is able to edit UTF-8 encoded
files.
Carefully edit - the fields are separated by a | char, do not change this!
Entries in this file look like:
PAGE OLDPAGENAME NEWPAGENAME
FILE OLDPAGENAME OLDFILENAME NEWFILENAME
You may ONLY edit the rightmost field (the new name - in case you want to
rename
the page or file).

After you have finished editing, rename the file to
D:\moin\projects\topic\data\
rename2.txt and re-issue the moin migrate command.
Final mig script reached, migration is complete.



So, then I edit the rename1.txt and change the name and run the command
again, and I get this:
Calling migration script for D:\moin\projects\topic\data, base revision
1059999
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "D:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\moin.py", line 24, in
<module>
   run()
 File "D:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\moin.py", line 15, in
run
   MoinScript().run(showtime=0)
 File "d:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\__init__.py", line 138,
in run
   self.mainloop()
 File "d:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\__init__.py", line 245,
in mainloop
   plugin_class(args[2:], self.options).run() # all starts again there
 File "d:\python25\lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\__init__.py", line 138,
in run
   self.mainloop()
 File
"D:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\..\..\MoinMoin\script\migration\data.py",
line 48, in mainloop
   curr_rev = execute(self, data_dir, curr_rev)
 File
"D:\python25\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\script\..\..\MoinMoin\script\migration\1059999.py",
line 34, in execute
   shutil.move(data_dir, src_data_dir)
 File "d:\python25\lib\shutil.py", line 195, in move
   raise Error, "Cannot move a directory '%s' into itself '%s'." % (src,
dst)
shutil.Error: Cannot move a directory 'D:\moin\projects\topic\data' into
itself 'D:\moin\projects\topic\data.pre160'.

Any thoughts?
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From urehse at gmx.de  Thu Dec 27 21:59:01 2007
From: urehse at gmx.de (Uwe Rehse)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:59:01 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Howto migrate from Moinmoin 1.5.8 -> Moinmoin 1.6.0 ?
Message-ID: <47746675.9070706@gmx.de>

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Hash: SHA1


Greetings,

during this night I have installed the new MoinMoin release 1.6.0 on
my openSuSE 10.3 (Python 2.5.1) PC. Because I'm a long time MoinMoin
user with several installations (with a few thousand pages) in my
company the installation finished with no problems; the test wiki
(that means a new instance) is working as expected.

But the migration of an existing 1.5.8-wiki failed: I have created a
new 1.6.0 instance, copy the files 1.5.8-wiki/data/pages to the direc-
tory 1.6.0-wiki/data/pages and called the script

moin --config-dir=/usr/share/moin/1.6.0-wiki
- --wiki-url=http://localhost/1.6.0-wiki migration data

(following README.migration)

The script finished with the message
- ------------
Calling migration script for /usr/local/share/moin/jumbonet/data, base revision
1060000
Final mig script reached, migration is complete.
- ------------

But the result is not as expected: the new MoinMoin wiki uses a different
syntax for macros & links: e.g. new <<Include(..)>>, old [[Include(..)]];
the syntax for named HTML-links changed too. The "old"-syntax seems not to
work anymore and the migration procedure did not convert the old syntax in to
the new one.
So, unfortunately, at the moment the "migrated" 1.6.0-wiki is completely
useless for me.

I tried to update a working 1.5.8 installation to 1.6.0 on another system
with the same unsatisfying result.

May be I was doing something wrong during the migration procedure; but
reading the manuals and searching at the moinmoin-homepage (and asking
Google...) did not provide a solution...

Could you give me any hint howto to solve the described problem ?

Thanks,

Uwe
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From Marcin.Kasperski at softax.com.pl  Fri Dec 28 11:21:44 2007
From: Marcin.Kasperski at softax.com.pl (Marcin Kasperski)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:21:44 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin 1.6.0 released
References: <1198626584.5690.1.camel@black>
Message-ID: <87d4sqdc2v.fsf@cauchy.softax.local>

Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> writes:

> Moin,
>
> there's new stuff to play with!

Sorry, but .... which stuff? Or - where is the list of changes?
I spent a few minutes browsing around the site and couldn't find
any change log.


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From rb.proj at gmail.com  Fri Dec 28 11:28:05 2007
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:28:05 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Howto migrate from Moinmoin 1.5.8 -> Moinmoin 1.6.0
	?
In-Reply-To: <477468B6.6050306@rehse.org>
References: <477468B6.6050306@rehse.org>
Message-ID: <fl386l$1ko$1@ger.gmane.org>

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Hi

I am not sure if I have understand this right. But if you only have
copied your pages dir to a fresh instance then you have missed the meta
file.

more meta in data gives
data_format_revision: 01060000

the migration script does read this file and knows then what all
migration scripts are needed. (in this case it thinks "nothing")

better you do copy the whole data dir.

cheers
Reimar



Uwe Rehse schrieb:
> Greetings,
> 
> during this night I have installed the new MoinMoin release 1.6.0 on
> my openSuSE 10.3 (Python 2.5.1) PC. Because I'm a long time MoinMoin
> user with several installations (with a few thousand pages) in my
> company the installation finished with no problems; the test wiki
> (that means a new instance) is working as expected.
> 
> But the migration of an existing 1.5.8-wiki failed: I have created a
> new 1.6.0 instance, copy the files 1.5.8-wiki/data/pages to the direc-
> tory 1.6.0-wiki/data/pages and called the script
> 
> moin --config-dir=/usr/share/moin/1.6.0-wiki
> --wiki-url=http://localhost/1.6.0-wiki migration data
> 
> (following README.migration)
> 
> The script finished with the message
> ------------
> Calling migration script for /usr/local/share/moin/jumbonet/data, base revision
> 1060000
> Final mig script reached, migration is complete.
> ------------
> 
> But the result is not as expected: the new MoinMoin wiki uses a different
> syntax for macros & links: e.g. new <<Include(..)>>, old [[Include(..)]];
> the syntax for named HTML-links changed too. The "old"-syntax seems not to
> work anymore and the migration procedure did not convert the old syntax in to
> the new one.
> So, unfortunately, at the moment the "migrated" 1.6.0-wiki is completely
> useless for me.
> 
> I tried to update a working 1.5.8 installation to 1.6.0 on another system
> with the same unsatisfying result.
> 
> May be I was doing something wrong during the migration procedure; but
> reading the manuals and searching at the moinmoin-homepage (and asking
> Google...) did not provide a solution...
> 
> Could you give me any hint howto to solve the described problem ?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Uwe
> 
> 
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From linux at rehse.org  Fri Dec 28 12:33:31 2007
From: linux at rehse.org (Uwe Rehse)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:33:31 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Howto migrate from Moinmoin 1.5.8 -> Moinmoin 1.6.0
 ?
In-Reply-To: <fl386l$1ko$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <477468B6.6050306@rehse.org> <fl386l$1ko$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4775336B.70606@rehse.org>

Hi Reimar,

thank your for your answer !

The missing meta-file was the reason for my problem: after copying the
whole data dir to the new instance and creating a meta-file

data_format_revision: 01050800

(in my old data dir a meta does not exist) the migration script works
as expected . Thanks again.

Uwe

R.Bauer schrieb:
> Hi
> 
> I am not sure if I have understand this right. But if you only have
> copied your pages dir to a fresh instance then you have missed the meta
> file.
> 
> more meta in data gives
> data_format_revision: 01060000
> 
> the migration script does read this file and knows then what all
> migration scripts are needed. (in this case it thinks "nothing")
> 
> better you do copy the whole data dir.
> 

[...]

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From emailmanjula at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 28 15:45:46 2007
From: emailmanjula at yahoo.com (Manjula Kumar)
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:45:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Moin-user]  Javascript
Message-ID: <702611.63747.qm@web35510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
 I would like to know whether we can use javascript.I know in macromarket there is a javascript macro,but it does not have any documentation about how to use it. I would like to use javascript while editing the wiki not in wikiconfig.py or the anywhere else.

Thanks in advance,
Manjula







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From mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de  Sat Dec 29 04:33:01 2007
From: mark.ziegler at rakekniven.de (Mark Ziegler)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:33:01 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin 1.6.0 released
In-Reply-To: <87d4sqdc2v.fsf@cauchy.softax.local>
References: <1198626584.5690.1.camel@black>
	<87d4sqdc2v.fsf@cauchy.softax.local>
Message-ID: <200712291033.01356.mark.ziegler@rakekniven.de>

Hello,

> Sorry, but .... which stuff? Or - where is the list of changes?
> I spent a few minutes browsing around the site and couldn't find
> any change log.
See page http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinDownload and there is a link to
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinRelease1.6

Cheers,
Mark



From irma at calyx.net.au  Sun Dec 30 05:44:54 2007
From: irma at calyx.net.au (Calyx )
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:44:54 +1100
Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with tables and rowns
Message-ID: <20071230104504.UZPL14439.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@Latitude>

Hi MoinMoin team, 
 
I wonder if someone could advise me in what I do wrong and how I could solve
the following problem:
 
This is the table in Edit (Text) mode:
 
 
  ||About                       ||["TheGoal"]                 ||Dates
||Comments                 ||Links                            ||
  ||VALA2008                ||Edu. & networking       ||February 02,07
||During SMSA            ||["MelbProgramme"]       ||
  ||NewZealand08          ||Koha & vacation          ||January 12-20
||During SMSA             ||["NewZealandItinerary"] ||
  ||Europe08                 ||Recreation & Koha      ||May 08
||Olivia                         ||["EuropeItinerary"]        ||   
 
and this is the way it displays when I save the changes:
 

About 

TheGoal <http://wiki.calyx.net.au/moin.cgi/TheGoal>  

Dates 

Comments 

Links 


VALA2008 

Edu. & networking 

February 02,07

During SMSA 

MelbProgramme <http://wiki.calyx.net.au/moin.cgi/MelbProgramme>  


NewZealand08 <http://wiki.calyx.net.au/moin.cgi/NewZealand08>  

Koha & vacation 

January 12-20 

During SMSA 

NewZealandItinerary <http://wiki.calyx.net.au/moin.cgi/NewZealandItinerary> 

|| 

Europe08 ||Recreation & Koha ||May 08 ||Olivia ||EuropeItinerary
<http://wiki.calyx.net.au/moin.cgi/EuropeItinerary>  ||

Why can't I get the Europe08 row to fit the same rows format in the table
like: VALA2008 and NewZealand08???

Many thanks for your support, any hints are gladly accepted.

Thank you.

Irma 
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From linux at rehse.org  Sun Dec 30 06:56:34 2007
From: linux at rehse.org (Uwe Rehse)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:56:34 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with tables and rowns
In-Reply-To: <20071230104504.UZPL14439.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@Latitude>
References: <20071230104504.UZPL14439.oaamta05ps.mx.bigpond.com@Latitude>
Message-ID: <47778772.8000506@rehse.org>

Hi Irma,

try the option "Remove trailing whitespace from each line" below your
editor window before saving the page - it should solve your problem.

Greetings,

Uwe


Calyx schrieb:
> /Hi MoinMoin team, /
> // 
> /I wonder if someone could advise me in what I do wrong and how I
> could solve the following problem:/
> // 
> /This is the table in Edit (Text) mode:/
>  
>  
>   ||About                       ||["TheGoal"]                
> ||Dates                ||Comments                
> ||Links                            ||
>   ||VALA2008                ||Edu. & networking       ||February 02,07
>  ||During SMSA            ||["MelbProgramme"]       ||
>   ||NewZealand08          ||Koha & vacation          ||January 12-20  
> ||During SMSA             ||["NewZealandItinerary"] ||
>   ||Europe08                 ||Recreation & Koha      ||May
> 08              ||Olivia                        
> ||["EuropeItinerary"]        ||  
>  
> /and this is the way it displays when I save the changes:/
> // 

[...]

> ||
> 
> Europe08 ||Recreation & Koha ||May 08 ||Olivia ||EuropeItinerary
> <http://wiki.calyx.net.au/moin.cgi/EuropeItinerary> ||
> 
> /Why can't I get the Europe08 row to fit the same rows format in the
> table like: VALA2008 and NewZealand08???/
> 
> /Many thanks for your support, any hints are gladly accepted./
> 
> /Thank you./
> 
> /Irma/
> 
> 
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From steveo at syslang.net  Sun Dec 30 17:12:01 2007
From: steveo at syslang.net (Steven W. Orr)
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:12:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with migration 1.5.3 --> 1.6.0
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999999.0712301703420.8579@saturn.syslang.net>

I downloaded the new software and built an rpm for my Fedora system.

rpm -Uvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/moin-1.6.0-1.noarch.rpm

I copied in a copy of the new moin.cgi and made the modifications 
needed. I also updated the wikiconfig.py file.

The URL is

http://frambors.syslang.net/nicciwiki/

Then I went and ran the following command

./moin.cgi --config-dir=/e/web/frambors/nicciwiki \
 	--wiki-url=frambors.syslang.net/nicciwiki migration data

It produced a lot of html as output but I two problems:

1 is that the 
http://frambors.syslang.net/nicciwiki/FraminghamWikiFrontPage
links in the front page are no longer hot.

2 is that the meta file in /e/web/frambors/nicciwiki/data says

data_format_revision: 01050500

Can someone please tell me how to fix this? I'm down now so sooner would 
be better :-(

TIA

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From linux at rehse.org  Sun Dec 30 20:52:44 2007
From: linux at rehse.org (Uwe Rehse)
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 02:52:44 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with migration 1.5.3 --> 1.6.0
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999999.0712301703420.8579@saturn.syslang.net>
References: <alpine.LFD.0.999999.0712301703420.8579@saturn.syslang.net>
Message-ID: <47784B6C.7090906@rehse.org>

Hi Steven,

two hints for solving the problem:

1) in my opionion the moin-command for data migration is not the
   same as moin.cgi, which is - as far as I know - "only" responsible
   for deliviering your HTML-page according to your browser request.
   According to the README.migration file one should call the script
   moin (for instance located at /usr/local/bin/ on my opensuse system
   or as moin.py at MoinMoin/script/)
   So it seems to me that you have seen your HTML output - still uncon-
   verted to 1.6.0
2) The conversion from 1.5.8 -> 1.6.0 on my system a few day ago was a
   two stage process: 1.5.8 -> 1.5.99, then I have had to edit a newly
   created file rename1.txt, which I have had to renamed in rename2.txt;
   then one had to call the migration command again.
   But, between both migration runs I got clear screen outputs about the
   things, what have to do next.

I would suggest to check whether you called the right conversion script
and run the migration statement again.

Greetings,

Uwe

Steven W. Orr schrieb:
> I downloaded the new software and built an rpm for my Fedora system.
> 
> rpm -Uvh /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/noarch/moin-1.6.0-1.noarch.rpm
> 
> I copied in a copy of the new moin.cgi and made the modifications 
> needed. I also updated the wikiconfig.py file.
> 
> The URL is
> 
> http://frambors.syslang.net/nicciwiki/
> 
> Then I went and ran the following command
> 
> ./moin.cgi --config-dir=/e/web/frambors/nicciwiki \
>  	--wiki-url=frambors.syslang.net/nicciwiki migration data
> 
> It produced a lot of html as output but I two problems:
> 
> 1 is that the 
> http://frambors.syslang.net/nicciwiki/FraminghamWikiFrontPage
> links in the front page are no longer hot.
> 
> 2 is that the meta file in /e/web/frambors/nicciwiki/data says
> 
> data_format_revision: 01050500
> 
> Can someone please tell me how to fix this? I'm down now so sooner would 
> be better :-(
> 
> TIA
>