From neeme at apache.org Wed Mar 1 00:42:02 2006 From: neeme at apache.org (Neeme Praks) Date: Wed Mar 1 00:42:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Problems with GUI Mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm also having similar issue. Env: Linux with kernel 2.6.8 Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7d DAV/2 PHP/5.0.3 mod_jk2/2.0.4 SVN/1.2.3 mod_python/3.2.8 Python/2.4.2 MoinMoin runs under mod_python and SSL, with apache LDAP authentication. I upgraded from MoinMoin 1.3.5 to 1.5.2. (made backups, deleted /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin and installed new version) Also configured MoinMoin to autocreate new users. Everything seems to work except for saving/preview in graphical editor. When I click save or preview button, I get two segmentation faults in apache error log: [Wed Mar 01 09:27:57 2006] [notice] child pid 26882 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Wed Mar 01 09:27:58 2006] [notice] child pid 26907 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) (And the browser displays an empty page) I tried to upgrade mod_python (old version was 3.1.4), but that didn't help. Any ideas? Rgds, Neeme Fleming, Brian J. wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running: > > Apache 2.0.55 > mod_python-3.2.7 > Python2.4.2 > > > I got MoinMoin up and running, and it works fairly well. But I am > having a problem with the GUI editor. > > When I am editing in GUI mode, if I click preview I get a "page can't be > found". If I try to save while in the GUI editor I get the same thing. > > Any clues? > > Text mode works fine. > > > > ============================================================ > The information contained in this message may be privileged > and confidential and protected from disclosure. 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DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 From info at schihei.de Wed Mar 1 16:01:11 2006 From: info at schihei.de (Heiko J Schick) Date: Wed Mar 1 16:01:11 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] del.icio.us support Message-ID: Hello, I wasn't apple to find a macro which implements support for del.icio.us. Because of that I've wrote a little macro which is based on RSSReader [1]. My macro will download all links via RSS and prints it as unordned list. The problem with this effort is that del.icio.us only show 31 entries in RSS file. This means that my macro can't only import the 31 latest links. Does anybody have a better solution which is based on the del.icio.us XML API? [1]: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=RSSReader.py Many thanks in advance! Regards, Heiko From kmacdermid at ncipher.com Thu Mar 2 05:57:09 2006 From: kmacdermid at ncipher.com (MacDermid, Kenny) Date: Thu Mar 2 05:57:09 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Timestamps messed up. Message-ID: Hello all, I've inherited a wiki here at work, and I'm having a little trouble since updating python. It seems somewhere along the way the timestamps in the edit-logs changed to large values. These values return: "timestamp out of range for platform time_t" when datetime.py processes them. In python 2.3 they just returned 1970, which at least didn't show this problem. I'll give you an example of an edit-log that messes it up: 1125432258000000 00000001 SAVE HelpForBeginners missing edit-log entry for this revision 1039615587000000053248 00000002 SAVE HelpForBeginners 192.168.0.134 ZZZ 1038866826.1.2296 1040133859000000053248 00000003 SAVE HelpForBeginners 192.168.0.50 ZZZ 1040133859.17.2124 1040134249999999959040 00000004 SAVE HelpForBeginners 192.168.0.50 ZZZ 1040134250.31.1952 The call stack for the error is: request.py in run (self=) line 1105 Page.py in send_page line 1178 Wikiutil.py in send_title Page.py in lastEditInfo (line 464) user.py in getFormattedDateTime (line 563) user.py in getTime (line 541) datetime.py in tmtuple (line 22) Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Kenny From mmiller at stabilitynetworks.com Thu Mar 2 06:40:03 2006 From: mmiller at stabilitynetworks.com (Matthew C. Miller) Date: Thu Mar 2 06:40:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Help w/ macros Message-ID: <7F5018B8B9E4B048BCFA208A270FAC1E03FEC0@gc.StabilityNetworks.local> I recently had to reinstall Moin (we're in the process of upgrading from 1.2.3 to 1.5.2 and broke the existing wiki install while testing). Before breaking it, the Columns.py macro was installed and working great. Now it doesn't work at all. I've recopied Columns.py from the website to /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/macro/ (though it was still there), but it doesn't appear to be doing anything. Do I need to do something in order to activate a macro? (other than include the macro text in a wiki page) Thanks, Matthew C. Miller, CTO Stability Networks mcm at stabilitynetworks.com 208/344.0050 From Craig.Johnson at bcx.co.za Thu Mar 2 06:44:05 2006 From: Craig.Johnson at bcx.co.za (Craig Johnson - BCX - Data Centre Services) Date: Thu Mar 2 06:44:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Help w/ macros Message-ID: <45196D9C830D6C48BC62759FC9C2F9E4A3B23F@dxsdc02.africa.enterprise.root> That particular macro is dependent on changes to the standard moinmoin style sheets. See the installation instructions. Craig -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Matthew C. Miller Sent: 02 March 2006 04:39 PM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Help w/ macros I recently had to reinstall Moin (we're in the process of upgrading from 1.2.3 to 1.5.2 and broke the existing wiki install while testing). Before breaking it, the Columns.py macro was installed and working great. Now it doesn't work at all. I've recopied Columns.py from the website to /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/macro/ (though it was still there), but it doesn't appear to be doing anything. Do I need to do something in order to activate a macro? (other than include the macro text in a wiki page) Thanks, Matthew C. Miller, CTO Stability Networks mcm at stabilitynetworks.com 208/344.0050 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From mmiller at stabilitynetworks.com Thu Mar 2 06:53:00 2006 From: mmiller at stabilitynetworks.com (Matthew C. Miller) Date: Thu Mar 2 06:53:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Help w/ macros Message-ID: <7F5018B8B9E4B048BCFA208A270FAC1E03FEC2@gc.StabilityNetworks.local> Oh, yeah. I remember that . Thanks! Matthew C. Miller, CTO Stability Networks mcm at stabilitynetworks.com 208/344.0050 -----Original Message----- From: Craig Johnson - BCX - Data Centre Services [mailto:Craig.Johnson at bcx.co.za] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 7:43 AM To: Matthew C. Miller; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Moin-user] Help w/ macros That particular macro is dependent on changes to the standard moinmoin style sheets. See the installation instructions. Craig -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Matthew C. Miller Sent: 02 March 2006 04:39 PM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Help w/ macros I recently had to reinstall Moin (we're in the process of upgrading from 1.2.3 to 1.5.2 and broke the existing wiki install while testing). Before breaking it, the Columns.py macro was installed and working great. Now it doesn't work at all. I've recopied Columns.py from the website to /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/macro/ (though it was still there), but it doesn't appear to be doing anything. Do I need to do something in order to activate a macro? (other than include the macro text in a wiki page) Thanks, Matthew C. Miller, CTO Stability Networks mcm at stabilitynetworks.com 208/344.0050 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=k&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Mar 2 09:54:48 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu Mar 2 09:54:48 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Timestamps messed up. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44072FAA.3080302@gmx.de> > I've inherited a wiki here at work, and I'm having a little trouble > since updating python. It seems somewhere along the way the timestamps > in the edit-logs changed to large values. Old moin versions (< 1.3) used seconds since 1970 timestamps (they used it even for revisioning, asking for trouble, esp. on win32). Newer moins (>= 1.3) use microseconds since 1970 (and they use 1,2,3,... for revisioning). > 1039615587000000053248 00000002 SAVE HelpForBeginners > 192.168.0.134 ZZZ 1038866826.1.2296 This looks somewhat strange. > The call stack for the error is: Please file a bug report (and please include full traceback html and full system details). From kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 2 14:48:04 2006 From: kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net (Kenneth McDonald) Date: Thu Mar 2 14:48:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Some questions about best way to set up Moin for both user-editable and user-noneditable pages? Message-ID: <90BB2F40-889B-45C1-B651-F903D042DBDE@sbcglobal.net> We're finally close to getting our Moin site ready for public release. It will have both "official" pages (not editable by general users) and user-editable pages. In addition, users will be able to create their own pages. Obviously, there are two ways to set this up. I can make pages editable by default, and then lock down the official pages, or lock pages by default, and then enable user editing on specific pages. I'd prefer the latter, but am concerned about settings for pages created by users; will they be automatically user editable and (more importantly) is there a mechanism to prevent users from inadvertently (or intentionally) locking them into a state where they are not editable by users? I know I could experiment, but that would unfortunately never give me a definitive answer, just one I would hope would be correct :-). Thanks, Ken From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Thu Mar 2 18:12:02 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Thu Mar 2 18:12:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? Message-ID: I'm just learning about moin. Is there any good way I could download my page, edit with my favorite editor (xemacs), then upload back to moin? From gia at webde.de Fri Mar 3 00:06:02 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Fri Mar 3 00:06:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4407F8DB.200@webde.de> Neal Becker wrote: > I'm just learning about moin. Is there any good way I could download my > page, edit with my favorite editor (xemacs), then upload back to moin? I use this Mozilla Extension to do so (with vim): http://mozex.mozdev.org/ For vim there is even a syntax highlight module for Moin syntax available; I bet there is one for Xemacs too. -Gisbert Amm From Stefan.Marxext.MAFa.Lynx at rewe-group.com Fri Mar 3 00:45:00 2006 From: Stefan.Marxext.MAFa.Lynx at rewe-group.com (Marx, Stefan ext. MA Fa. Lynx) Date: Fri Mar 3 00:45:00 2006 Subject: AW: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? may be OT Message-ID: Hi Gisbert, that sounds *very* yummy since I'm an adicted user of vim on all my platforms (and yes, spend a donation ;=). Unfortunatly I can install mozex not correct since I have no entry in the extension area. This happens under Windows2000 SP 4 with FireFox 1.0.4. I use the install link in the mozdev area and after restart I have a right click mozex entry in the menu, but can't edit the preferences of the extension cause of the missing entry in the extension dialog (other extension, e.g. fastfox do). Any hints? THX a lot, Greetings from Cologne, Germany > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht---- > Von: Gisbert Amm [SMTP:gia at webde.de] > Gesendet am: Freitag, 3. M?rz 2006 09:06 > An: Neal Becker > Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Betreff: Re: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? > > Neal Becker wrote: > > I'm just learning about moin. Is there any good way I could download my > > page, edit with my favorite editor (xemacs), then upload back to moin? > > I use this Mozilla Extension to do so (with vim): > > http://mozex.mozdev.org/ > > For vim there is even a syntax highlight module for Moin syntax > available; I bet there is one for Xemacs too. > > -Gisbert Amm > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From gia at webde.de Fri Mar 3 00:59:01 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Fri Mar 3 00:59:01 2006 Subject: AW: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? may be OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44080515.9060807@webde.de> Marx, Stefan ext. MA Fa. Lynx wrote: > Hi Gisbert, > > that sounds *very* yummy since I'm an adicted user of vim on all my > platforms > (and yes, spend a donation ;=). > > Unfortunatly I can install mozex not correct since I have no entry in the > extension > area. This happens under Windows2000 SP 4 with FireFox 1.0.4. I use the > install > link in the mozdev area and after restart I have a right click mozex entry > in the > menu, but can't edit the preferences of the extension cause of the missing > entry > in the extension dialog (other extension, e.g. fastfox do). Any hints? > I'm afraid I can't help you with this. I'm using mozex with Mozilla 1.7.5 on a SuSE Linux for quite a while now and can't hardly remember the installation. I'm sure that I had no trouble at all. The only detail I recall is that mozex needs a directory where it can write the temporary files to. You should probably ask on the Mozdev list (http://www.mozdev.org/mailing-lists.html), they'll certainly help you there. Good luck! BTW: In the meantime I found the URL to the syntax highlighting module: http://linuxwiki.de/Vim/SyntaxHighlighting/MoinMoin -Gisbert From Stefan.Marxext.MAFa.Lynx at rewe-group.com Fri Mar 3 01:15:01 2006 From: Stefan.Marxext.MAFa.Lynx at rewe-group.com (Marx, Stefan ext. MA Fa. Lynx) Date: Fri Mar 3 01:15:01 2006 Subject: solved: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? may be OT Message-ID: Hi Gisbert. thanks for that hint - switch to mozilla in your version et volia! thanks again, Stefan, happlly viming in moin-moin > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Gisbert Amm [SMTP:gia at webde.de] > Gesendet am: Freitag, 3. M?rz 2006 09:58 > An: Marx, Stefan ext. MA Fa. Lynx > Cc: 'moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net' > Betreff: Re: AW: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? may be OT > > Marx, Stefan ext. MA Fa. Lynx wrote: > > Hi Gisbert, > > > > that sounds *very* yummy since I'm an adicted user of vim on all my > > platforms > > (and yes, spend a donation ;=). > > > > Unfortunatly I can install mozex not correct since I have no entry in > the > > extension > > area. This happens under Windows2000 SP 4 with FireFox 1.0.4. I use the > > install > > link in the mozdev area and after restart I have a right click mozex > entry > > in the > > menu, but can't edit the preferences of the extension cause of the > missing > > entry > > in the extension dialog (other extension, e.g. fastfox do). Any hints? > > > > I'm afraid I can't help you with this. I'm using mozex with Mozilla > 1.7.5 on a SuSE Linux for quite a while now and can't hardly remember > the installation. I'm sure that I had no trouble at all. The only detail > I recall is that mozex needs a directory where it can write the > temporary files to. > > You should probably ask on the Mozdev list > (http://www.mozdev.org/mailing-lists.html), they'll certainly help you > there. Good luck! > > BTW: In the meantime I found the URL to the syntax highlighting module: > http://linuxwiki.de/Vim/SyntaxHighlighting/MoinMoin > > -Gisbert From meyer at acm.org Fri Mar 3 01:19:06 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 3 01:19:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Permissions problem In-Reply-To: <43FEDB01.5090309@webde.de> References: <7008329d0602220737q297014fcg4801262895ffcd51@mail.gmail.com> <43FDE477.7070903@webde.de> <7008329d0602230847s1d3877d0r258c5cd5e1d315dd@mail.gmail.com> <43FDE816.4070505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230854s1bfedc23id8edf35cfc81aa7@mail.gmail.com> <43FDEA90.5020505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230909u68d5586ck5a0ed70d34d9220@mail.gmail.com> <7008329d0602240157m4d425cb0tc63a6dee40216351@mail.gmail.com> <43FEDB01.5090309@webde.de> Message-ID: <7008329d0603030118p9eca9fbv9850b0ccb93757f0@mail.gmail.com> Dear Gisbert and moinmoin freaks Finally, I have solved the problem with permissions on my machine: the problem was that SELinux on Fedora prevented the cgi script from running! Now, I have my moin wiki running at http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin but it doesn't look like it should. Is there a css file missing or so? thanks Andr? On 2/24/06, Gisbert Amm wrote: > > You said there were no user named apache within the system, if I got it > right. However, user and group in httpd conf are set to apache. Which > user runs the httpd processes then? > > -Gisbert > > Andre Meyer wrote: > > Hi Nir > > > > Tried this and the result is exactly the same: 500 Internal Server > > Error. No Moin problem, thus... > > > > Any Fedora/Apache guru's with more insight? > > thanks > > Andr? > > > > On 2/23/06, *Nir Soffer* > > wrote: > > > > Try to run a simple test script, to make sure apache can run cgi > > scripts from this location. > > > > Rename moin.cgi temporarilly, and create this script named moin.cgi > > > > #!/usr/bin/python > > import cgi > > cgi.test () > > > > > > Now make it executable and set the user and group to apache:apache, > and > > try to access with apache. > > > > If this script will run, the problem may be with moin installation. > > > > > > On 23/02/2006, at 19:09, Andre Meyer wrote: > > > > > Maybe another problem: the permissons are set to apache.apache, > but > > > there is no actual user apache. Is that a problem? > > > > > > [root at python:/usr/local/var/moin/diwiki]# egrep "^User|^Group" > > > /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf > > > User apache > > > Group apache > > > > > > ??? > > > > > > Thanks a lot, Gisbert > > > Andr? > > > > > > > > > On 2/23/06, Gisbert Amm < gia at webde.de > > > wrote:Nothing suspicious. > > >> > > >> If you face no problems when you run /usr/bin/python then I'm > > afraid I > > >> run out of ideas. > > >> > > >> Anyone else? > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Gisbert Amm > > >> > > >> Andre Meyer wrote: > > >> > > > >> > On 2/23/06, *Gisbert Amm* > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > How does your moin.cgi look like? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > #!/usr/bin/python > > >> > # -*- coding: iso-8859-1 -*- > > >> > """ > > >> > MoinMoin - CGI Driver Script > > >> > > > >> > @copyright: 2000-2005 by J?rgen Hermann < jh at web.de > > > > >> >> > > >> > @license: GNU GPL, see COPYING for details. > > >> > """ > > >> > > > >> > # System path configuration > > >> > > > >> > import sys > > >> > > > >> > # Path of the directory where wikiconfig.py is located. > > >> > # YOU NEED TO CHANGE THIS TO MATCH YOUR SETUP. > > >> > sys.path.insert (0, '/usr/local/var/moin/diwiki') > > >> > > > >> > # Path to MoinMoin package, needed if you installed with > > >> --prefix=PREFIX > > >> > # or if you did not use setup.py. > > >> > ## sys.path.insert(0, 'PREFIX/lib/python2.3/site-packages') > > >> > > > >> > # Path of the directory where farmconfig.py is located (if > > >> different). > > >> > ## sys.path.insert(0, '/path/to/farmconfig') > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > # This is used to profile MoinMoin (default disabled) > > >> > hotshotProfiler = 0 > > >> > > > >> > # > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > >> > if hotshotProfiler: > > >> > import hotshot > > >> > prof = hotshot.Profile("moin.prof ") > > >> > prof.start () > > >> > > > >> > from MoinMoin.request import RequestCGI > > >> > request = RequestCGI() > > >> > request.run() > > >> > > > >> > if hotshotProfiler: > > >> > prof.close() > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gia at webde.de Fri Mar 3 02:14:03 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Fri Mar 3 02:14:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Permissions problem In-Reply-To: <7008329d0603030118p9eca9fbv9850b0ccb93757f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7008329d0602220737q297014fcg4801262895ffcd51@mail.gmail.com> <43FDE477.7070903@webde.de> <7008329d0602230847s1d3877d0r258c5cd5e1d315dd@mail.gmail.com> <43FDE816.4070505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230854s1bfedc23id8edf35cfc81aa7@mail.gmail.com> <43FDEA90.5020505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230909u68d5586ck5a0ed70d34d9220@mail.gmail.com> <7008329d0602240157m4d425cb0tc63a6dee40216351@mail.gmail.com> <43FEDB01.5090309@webde.de> <7008329d0603030118p9eca9fbv9850b0ccb93757f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440816CF.7000901@webde.de> Andre Meyer wrote: > > Finally, I have solved the problem with permissions on my machine: the > problem was that SELinux on Fedora prevented the cgi script from running! I'd really be interested in some more detail: How did SELinux actually hamper the execution of the CGI script? > Now, I have my moin wiki running at http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin > but it doesn't look like it should. Is there a css file missing or so? Probably this one (Alias and ScriptAlias are the same in httpd.conf)?: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoin/InstallDocs, see "CSS files do not work" (last heading on the page) -Gisbert From meyer at acm.org Fri Mar 3 02:20:03 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 3 02:20:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Permissions problem In-Reply-To: <440816CF.7000901@webde.de> References: <7008329d0602220737q297014fcg4801262895ffcd51@mail.gmail.com> <43FDE816.4070505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230854s1bfedc23id8edf35cfc81aa7@mail.gmail.com> <43FDEA90.5020505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230909u68d5586ck5a0ed70d34d9220@mail.gmail.com> <7008329d0602240157m4d425cb0tc63a6dee40216351@mail.gmail.com> <43FEDB01.5090309@webde.de> <7008329d0603030118p9eca9fbv9850b0ccb93757f0@mail.gmail.com> <440816CF.7000901@webde.de> Message-ID: <7008329d0603030219u641ed2a5p2bef789d5f4006ef@mail.gmail.com> On 3/3/06, Gisbert Amm wrote: > > Andre Meyer wrote: > > > > Finally, I have solved the problem with permissions on my machine: the > > problem was that SELinux on Fedora prevented the cgi script from > running! > > I'd really be interested in some more detail: How did SELinux actually > hamper the execution of the CGI script? I am not sure about the details, but since it's been disabled the cgi works. A colleague of mine discovered this when trying to get MediaWiki (sorry ;-) ) running and realised that calls to ImageMagick did not work (for creating thumbnails). > Now, I have my moin wiki running at http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin > > but it doesn't look like it should. Is there a css file missing or so? > > Probably this one (Alias and ScriptAlias are the same in httpd.conf)?: > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoin/InstallDocs, see "CSS files do > not work" (last heading on the page) I saw this info, but that is NOT the case. I have the following at the end of httpd.conf: # MoinMoin Wiki Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/" Order deny,allow Allow from all ScriptAlias /spysemoin "/usr/local/var/moin/spyse/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" Order deny,allow Allow from all -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert at cantab.net Fri Mar 3 02:31:06 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Fri Mar 3 02:31:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Permissions problem In-Reply-To: <7008329d0603030219u641ed2a5p2bef789d5f4006ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <7008329d0602220737q297014fcg4801262895ffcd51@mail.gmail.com> <43FDE816.4070505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230854s1bfedc23id8edf35cfc81aa7@mail.gmail.com> <43FDEA90.5020505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230909u68d5586ck5a0ed70d34d9220@mail.gmail.com> <7008329d0602240157m4d425cb0tc63a6dee40216351@mail.gmail.com> <43FEDB01.5090309@webde.de> <7008329d0603030118p9eca9fbv9850b0ccb93757f0@mail.gmail.com> <440816CF.7000901@webde.de> <7008329d0603030219u641ed2a5p2bef789d5f4006ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1141381812.16331.8.camel@xoliswa> On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 11:19 +0100, Andre Meyer wrote: > On 3/3/06, Gisbert Amm wrote: > > > > > Now, I have my moin wiki running at > http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin > > but it doesn't look like it should. Is there a css file > missing or so? > > Probably this one (Alias and ScriptAlias are the same in > httpd.conf)?: > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoin/InstallDocs, see "CSS > files do > not work" (last heading on the page) > > > I saw this info, but that is NOT the case. > > I have the following at the end of httpd.conf: > > # MoinMoin Wiki > > Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/" > > Order deny,allow > Allow from all > Have you set url_prefix = '/wiki' in wikiconfig.py? Viewing the source of your page, the CSS file being asked for is href="/spysemoin/modern/css/common.css" which obviously is not going to get the right file. Robert. > > ScriptAlias /spysemoin "/usr/local/var/moin/spyse/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" > > Order deny,allow > Allow from all > > > > > > From meyer at acm.org Fri Mar 3 02:39:01 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Fri Mar 3 02:39:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Permissions problem In-Reply-To: <1141381812.16331.8.camel@xoliswa> References: <7008329d0602220737q297014fcg4801262895ffcd51@mail.gmail.com> <43FDEA90.5020505@webde.de> <7008329d0602230909u68d5586ck5a0ed70d34d9220@mail.gmail.com> <7008329d0602240157m4d425cb0tc63a6dee40216351@mail.gmail.com> <43FEDB01.5090309@webde.de> <7008329d0603030118p9eca9fbv9850b0ccb93757f0@mail.gmail.com> <440816CF.7000901@webde.de> <7008329d0603030219u641ed2a5p2bef789d5f4006ef@mail.gmail.com> <1141381812.16331.8.camel@xoliswa> Message-ID: <7008329d0603030237t17098da1i243485decefc8bb@mail.gmail.com> Dear Robert Bummer! > Have you set > url_prefix = '/wiki' > in wikiconfig.py? This was set to /spysemoin. Stupid. Now it works: http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin/ Thanks a thousand times for all your help!!!! kind regards Andr? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Mar 3 04:43:04 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri Mar 3 04:43:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Some questions about best way to set up Moin for both user-editable and user-noneditable pages? In-Reply-To: <90BB2F40-889B-45C1-B651-F903D042DBDE@sbcglobal.net> References: <90BB2F40-889B-45C1-B651-F903D042DBDE@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <440839A4.7070705@gmx.de> > Obviously, there are two ways to set this up. I can make pages editable > by default, and then lock down the official pages, or lock pages by > default, and then enable user editing on specific pages. I'd prefer the > latter, Maybe that depends on the amount of pages of each type and what you need as "default if someone forgets ACLs". > but am concerned about settings for pages created by users; Users usually have no admin rights, that means they can't put ACLs on pages (neither modify existing ACLs). So user created pages will usually behave as acl_rights_default says (plus _before plus _after, as usual). > they be automatically user editable and (more importantly) is there a > mechanism to prevent users from inadvertently (or intentionally) locking > them into a state where they are not editable by users? You don't give normal users admin rights, so they can't do anything wrong with ACLs. So the question is rather whether you have users that NEED to set ACLs on some pages. You either need to use acl_rights_before for that (with some AdminGroup maybe) or, if admin rights should not be global, you maybe want to look at autoadmin security policy (giving users admin rights on homepage and on project pages). Hope that helps. For details see HelponAccessControlLists and search for autoadmin. From msoulier at digitaltorque.ca Fri Mar 3 09:45:01 2006 From: msoulier at digitaltorque.ca (Michael P. Soulier) Date: Fri Mar 3 09:45:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] sync between desktop and server Message-ID: <20060303174401.GQ29050@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Hey people, I'm trying to push the use of Wikis internally on our intranet, and one thing about having a wiki that causes some issue is that you can't work on them locally, offline, taking a copy with you. Or can you? I'd love to see the desktop edition provide the ability to mirror an existing wiki, then hack away at some pages, and then sync up your changes back to the site when you're back online. 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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sat Mar 4 01:41:01 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sat Mar 4 01:41:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: sync between desktop and server References: <20060303174401.GQ29050@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Message-ID: Hi Micheal, On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:44:01 -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > I'd love to see the desktop edition provide the ability to mirror an existing > wiki, then hack away at some pages, and then sync up your changes back to the > site when you're back online. > > Any plans for something like this? Yes, there have been plans - http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiSyncronisation I just have to find enough free time to do this (it is not a big thing). There is also another script that already solves a few problems - it is linked from the bottom of the page. Kind regards, Alexander From skip at pobox.com Sat Mar 4 06:41:03 2006 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat Mar 4 06:41:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] [newb] external editing? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17417.42733.839165.213839@montanaro.dyndns.org> Neal> I'm just learning about moin. Is there any good way I could Neal> download my page, edit with my favorite editor (xemacs), then Neal> upload back to moin? Neal, If you're a Firefox or Mozilla user, try mozex: http://mozex.mozdev.org/ Skip From alan.ezust at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 10:08:03 2006 From: alan.ezust at gmail.com (Alan Ezust) Date: Sat Mar 4 10:08:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] getHandler returns none on search? Message-ID: I have a wikifarm, and on one of the wikis in the farm, with its own data directory, I am unable to search. Any time I try, I get this error: So why would getHandler return None? 1. /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/request.py in run (self=) 1086 from MoinMoin.wikiaction import getHandler 1087 handler = getHandler(self, action) ---> 1088 handler(self.page.page_name, self) 1089 1090 # 5. Or redirect to another page * handler = None * self = * self.page = * self.page.page_name = u'Services' TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable * args = ("'NoneType' object is not callable",) System Details Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:03:34 +0000 Platform: Linux lazarus 2.6.14-kanotix-9 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 28 10:17:53 CET 2005 i686 Python: Python 2.3.5 (/usr/bin/python) MoinMoin: Release 1.5.2 (release) From alan.ezust at gmail.com Sat Mar 4 10:32:02 2006 From: alan.ezust at gmail.com (Alan Ezust) Date: Sat Mar 4 10:32:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: getHandler returns none on search? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ah, you can ignore this e-mail. I just realized I had forgotten I had some items to the excludedactions list, including those search actions... On 3/4/06, Alan Ezust wrote: > I have a wikifarm, and on one of the wikis in the farm, with its own > data directory, I am unable to search. Any time I try, I get this > error: > > So why would getHandler return None? > From nirs at freeshell.org Sat Mar 4 11:13:01 2006 From: nirs at freeshell.org (Nir Soffer) Date: Sat Mar 4 11:13:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] getHandler returns none on search? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <089c9a8570eac367d3f46059bb8e0ee4@freeshell.org> It is a bug, if it is possible to configure the wiki in such way that there is no handler, the code should handle this gracefully. On 04/03/2006, at 20:07, Alan Ezust wrote: > So why would getHandler return None? > > 1. /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin/request.py in run > (self=) > 1086 from MoinMoin.wikiaction import getHandler > 1087 handler = getHandler(self, action) > ---> 1088 handler(self.page.page_name, self) > Best Regards, Nir Soffer From meyer at acm.org Mon Mar 6 07:37:02 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 6 07:37:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Images and Tables Message-ID: <7008329d0603060736g79390c1fy5acc11510b9b0c@mail.gmail.com> Dear Moin experts After finally installing Moinmoin I now want to migrate my wiki from Zwiki to Moinmoin. But I find a few difficulties with formatting: I want an invisible table with images that link to external sites. How can this be done Moinmoin? Maybe have a look at what I have now in Zwiki ( http://python.openspace.nl/spyse/SpyseHome#logos) and what I managed to produce in Moinmoin, so far ( http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin/FrontPage#logos). I use the following: || [ http://python.openspace.nl/spyse_moin/tno_logo_109x98_pms285_op_wit.gif] ||<(> [http://www.decis.nl [ http://python.openspace.nl/spyse_moin/a_logoDecis_sm.jpg]] || ||<-2:> Sponsored by [http://www.tno.nl/ TNO] and [http://www.decis.nl/DECIS]. || ||<-2:> [http://python.openspace.nl/spyse_moin/PythonPoweredAnim.gif] [ http://python.openspace.nl/spyse_moin/zope_powered.gif] [ http://python.openspace.nl/spyse_moin/opensource-75x65.png] [ http://python.openspace.nl/spyse_moin/sourceforge_whitebg.gif] || My questions are: - How can images link to external addresses? - How can a table (or any text, for that matter) be centered on the page? - How can cells be valigned in the middle? - How can a table border be set to 0? - How can cellspacing be specified? 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Regards, Janos Mohacsi From meyer at acm.org Mon Mar 6 08:56:09 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 6 08:56:09 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Uploading attachments, documents, images In-Reply-To: <20060306174021.B2839@mignon.ki.iif.hu> References: <7008329d0603060821q2da4094dqefde37336cb15a9b@mail.gmail.com> <20060306174021.B2839@mignon.ki.iif.hu> Message-ID: <7008329d0603060855l6f797d43pd958569bf3aae6bf@mail.gmail.com> Hmm, I do not see that link on my wiki. Is that a configuration issue? I am logged in as admin, so I would expect to be able to see verything. Or is the AttachFile action special? thanks Andr? On 3/6/06, Mohacsi Janos wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Andre Meyer wrote: > > > Dear Moiners > > > > Is it possible to upload attachments, documents, images, etc. to a moin > page > > and reference them from there? The only way I could find is via ftp to > some > > other directory that is available from Apache. That is a quite > cumbersome > > way. How can this be done more elegantly? > > > put > > attachment:your_filename.ext > > into your documents. Then you will see clickable entries, where you can > upload documents. Warning: The attachments are not versioned! > > > Regards, > Janos Mohacsi > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at onemanifest.net Mon Mar 6 11:00:08 2006 From: lists at onemanifest.net (Peter Teunissen) Date: Mon Mar 6 11:00:08 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] moving pages from one wiki to another Message-ID: <85D28AA9-531B-49CE-A508-55FA2B27D867@onemanifest.net> Hi, I've got a copy of the data directory of another wiki, containing the data for loads of pages I need to add to my current wiki. How can I do that? Can I safely copy the folders I need from one 'pages' directory to another and add links on the existing pages to the new ones? I'm a little reluctant to just experiment since I'd hate to damage the existing running wiki... TIA Peter From nirs at freeshell.org Mon Mar 6 11:57:16 2006 From: nirs at freeshell.org (Nir Soffer) Date: Mon Mar 6 11:57:16 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Uploading attachments, documents, images In-Reply-To: <7008329d0603060855l6f797d43pd958569bf3aae6bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <7008329d0603060821q2da4094dqefde37336cb15a9b@mail.gmail.com> <20060306174021.B2839@mignon.ki.iif.hu> <7008329d0603060855l6f797d43pd958569bf3aae6bf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4cde3f22c0a4530a4c13ee87d4b3a05d@freeshell.org> On 06/03/2006, at 18:55, Andre Meyer wrote: > Hmm, I do not see that link on my wiki. Is that a configuration issue? > I am logged in as admin, so I would expect to be able to see > verything. Or is the AttachFile action special? It is :-) Check HelpOnConfiguration. Best Regards, Nir Soffer From meyer at acm.org Mon Mar 6 12:00:00 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 6 12:00:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Uploading attachments, documents, images In-Reply-To: <4cde3f22c0a4530a4c13ee87d4b3a05d@freeshell.org> References: <7008329d0603060821q2da4094dqefde37336cb15a9b@mail.gmail.com> <20060306174021.B2839@mignon.ki.iif.hu> <7008329d0603060855l6f797d43pd958569bf3aae6bf@mail.gmail.com> <4cde3f22c0a4530a4c13ee87d4b3a05d@freeshell.org> Message-ID: <7008329d0603061156m1eaa4be8s2e42c5e57dcc5dff@mail.gmail.com> All right, got this, so turned on the FileAttachments action in wikiconfig.py and now I can get to the page at http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin/FrontPage?action=AttachFile. But I don't get the link Attachments at the top of the page itself, like it shows on http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ ...another config issue? thanks a lot Andr? On 3/6/06, Nir Soffer wrote: > > > On 06/03/2006, at 18:55, Andre Meyer wrote: > > > Hmm, I do not see that link on my wiki. Is that a configuration issue? > > I am logged in as admin, so I would expect to be able to see > > verything. Or is the AttachFile action special? > > It is :-) > > Check HelpOnConfiguration. > > Best Regards, > > Nir Soffer > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From meyer at acm.org Mon Mar 6 14:35:01 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Mon Mar 6 14:35:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] linked images Message-ID: <7008329d0603061434j16573832y952ec02d018d0d7d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Moiners What is the moinmoin syntax to create the following html? Can't figure it out.... Help is very much appreciated Andr? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Neeme Praks wrote: > > I'm also having similar issue. > > Env: > Linux with kernel 2.6.8 > Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) > mod_ssl/2.0.54 > OpenSSL/0.9.7d > DAV/2 > PHP/5.0.3 > mod_jk2/2.0.4 > SVN/1.2.3 > mod_python/3.2.8 > Python/2.4.2 > > MoinMoin runs under mod_python and SSL, with apache LDAP authentication. > > I upgraded from MoinMoin 1.3.5 to 1.5.2. > (made backups, deleted /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin > and installed new version) > Also configured MoinMoin to autocreate new users. > > Everything seems to work except for saving/preview in graphical editor. > When I click save or preview button, I get two segmentation faults in > apache error log: > [Wed Mar 01 09:27:57 2006] [notice] child pid 26882 exit signal > Segmentation fault (11) > [Wed Mar 01 09:27:58 2006] [notice] child pid 26907 exit signal > Segmentation fault (11) > (And the browser displays an empty page) > > I tried to upgrade mod_python (old version was 3.1.4), but that didn't > help. > > Any ideas? > > Rgds, > Neeme > > Fleming, Brian J. wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I am running: >> >> Apache 2.0.55 >> mod_python-3.2.7 >> Python2.4.2 >> >> >> I got MoinMoin up and running, and it works fairly well. But I am >> having a problem with the GUI editor. >> >> When I am editing in GUI mode, if I click preview I get a "page can't be >> found". If I try to save while in the GUI editor I get the same thing. >> >> Any clues? >> >> Text mode works fine. >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> The information contained in this message may be privileged >> and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader >> of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee >> or agent responsible for delivering this message to the >> intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, >> dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly >> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, >> please notify us immediately by replying to the message and >> deleting it from your computer. Thank you. 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Attend the live > webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 From meyer at acm.org Wed Mar 8 01:33:09 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Wed Mar 8 01:33:09 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] User management Message-ID: <7008329d0603080132h3c081a19te7ec228ec5168b69@mail.gmail.com> Dear Moiners Does Moinmoin have a web-based user management interface? How can I see who is registered and with what permissions, make accounts for others and restrict the creation of new accounts, for example? thanks a lot Andr? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tw-public at gmx.de Wed Mar 8 09:21:46 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed Mar 8 09:21:46 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] User management In-Reply-To: <7008329d0603080132h3c081a19te7ec228ec5168b69@mail.gmail.com> References: <7008329d0603080132h3c081a19te7ec228ec5168b69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <440F1241.8030008@gmx.de> > Does Moinmoin have a web-based user management interface? If you are in the superuser list, you get some "su - username" capability in recent moin version (on UserPreferences page). > How can I see who is registered cd data/user grep ^name * > and with what permissions The permissions are set in the config or on the pages. > make accounts for others Usually account are created in a do-it-yourself way. > and restrict the creation of new accounts, for example? You don't need to restrict that. Just use ACLs and some proper groups if you want to restrict access to pages. From keith.c.schwols at intel.com Wed Mar 8 09:35:02 2006 From: keith.c.schwols at intel.com (Schwols, Keith C) Date: Wed Mar 8 09:35:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Dynamic User Groups Message-ID: <6FAB474893963D4E876FE660DC96C0717EAA69@azsmsx401> Has anyone tried making an ACL Group page dynamic? I would like to use a wiki macro to construct my PageAccessGroup by dumping the contents of an Outlook Mailing list. We have a pretty good corporate process for adding new team members to the PDL mailing lists, but then break down because a different process is required for the wiki admin (me) to update the PageAccessGroup with new members (or when members leave). Anyone tried this, ran into pitfalls, knows a patch or extension that I don't know about? ] hello everyone, here is my problem: if moin is first installed (setup.py) without a "--prefix" on a debian system it lands in /usr/share/moin. if moin is again installed (accidentally) on the same system with a --prefix of "/var/www/moin_python2.4" will any conflicts occur? and is it possible to "uninstall" the second setup.py by simply deleting everything in the "/var/www/moin_python2.4" directory? thanks, Evan From meyer at acm.org Thu Mar 9 01:02:01 2006 From: meyer at acm.org (Andre Meyer) Date: Thu Mar 9 01:02:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade 1.3.5 -> 1.5 Message-ID: <7008329d0603090101xcc358e9oa640a0bb39043d14@mail.gmail.com> Hi all I am happy with my moinmoin wiki (http://python.openspace.nl/spysemoin), but it is still running on version 1.3.5 (yum install from Fedora Core 4 repositories). Yesterday, I realised that version 1.5 is available in de dev repository. Upgrading resulted in some strange behaviour: the FrontPage was replaced by HelpOnLanguages. Why is this and how can this be resolved? Are there other strange things related to upgrading? For now, I have downgraded again without loss of information ;-) thanks for your help Andr? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robert at cantab.net Thu Mar 9 03:09:06 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Thu Mar 9 03:09:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] User management In-Reply-To: <440F1241.8030008@gmx.de> References: <7008329d0603080132h3c081a19te7ec228ec5168b69@mail.gmail.com> <440F1241.8030008@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1141902510.6215.21.camel@xoliswa> On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 18:20 +0100, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > Does Moinmoin have a web-based user management interface? > > If you are in the superuser list, you get some "su - username" > capability in recent moin version (on UserPreferences page). > > > How can I see who is registered > > cd data/user > grep ^name * There's also the [[SystemAdmin]] macro, which is invisible to non-superusers but which gives you a "File attachment browser" and a "User account browser". I'm thinking a "Group browser" might also be useful, but then I suppose you can just do a TitleSearch.... > > > and with what permissions > > The permissions are set in the config or on the pages. I was at some stage thinking of writing an action to do precisely this: choose a user, or a group, or one of the special groups "All" or "Known", to view a page as. It's annoying to have to logout to see what an anonymous user sees - using the default theme and as the "All" user. > > > make accounts for others > > Usually account are created in a do-it-yourself way. > > > and restrict the creation of new accounts, for example? > > You don't need to restrict that. > > Just use ACLs and some proper groups if you want to restrict access to > pages. It appears to me that there is quite a high demand for turning off user registration. Perhaps this should be configurable? Another option is to include more prominently in the Help (if it's there at all) how to turn off user registration using hacks - either editing UserPreferences, or making the user directory unwriteable, or something like that? Robert. From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Mar 9 07:47:02 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu Mar 9 07:47:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade 1.3.5 -> 1.5 In-Reply-To: <7008329d0603090101xcc358e9oa640a0bb39043d14@mail.gmail.com> References: <7008329d0603090101xcc358e9oa640a0bb39043d14@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44104DEA.6020904@gmx.de> > FrontPage was replaced by HelpOnLanguages. Why is this and how can this > be resolved? Try reading that page. :) From HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int Thu Mar 9 10:40:01 2006 From: HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int (Hans-Joachim Ehlers) Date: Thu Mar 9 10:40:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin 1.5.2 Macro Include problem Message-ID: Given: Include Patch applied to MoinMoin 1.5.2 Now the editlink does not function anymore and a simple space will case an errro message. Also added this to http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/IncludeEditLinkFails Hopefully its ok that i created the page FooBar for testing on moinmon... Examples: = Editlink OK = {{{ [[Include(FooBar,"Can edit My Foo Bar page",editlink)]] }}} [[Include(FooBar,,editlink)]] ---- = Editlink fail with entry = {{{ [[Include(FooBar,"can not edit my Foo Bar page",1,editlink)]] }}} [[Include(FooBar," My FooBar Page",1,editlink)]] ---- = An error Message will occur if after an {{{"}}} is one or more space {{{ }}} = {{{[[Include(FooBar," Opps a simple space kills My FooBar Page" ,1)]]}}} [[Include(FooBar," Ops a simple space kills My FooBar Page" ,1)]] [[Include(fooBar, 'My Foo Bar',,)]] <<<---- Space between ' and , will case error message [[Include(fooBar, 'My Foo Bar',,)]] regards Hajo From Brian.Fleming at tellabs.com Thu Mar 9 20:25:05 2006 From: Brian.Fleming at tellabs.com (Fleming, Brian J.) Date: Thu Mar 9 20:25:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Problems with GUI Mode Message-ID: You have any luck with this problem? I'm still seeing the same issue. GUI editor does not save or preview. I'm about to drop moinmoin as much as I liked it at first glance. -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Neeme Praks Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:30 AM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Problems with GUI Mode I'm also having similar issue. Env: Linux with kernel 2.6.8 Apache/2.0.54 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7d DAV/2 PHP/5.0.3 mod_jk2/2.0.4 SVN/1.2.3 mod_python/3.2.8 Python/2.4.2 MoinMoin runs under mod_python and SSL, with apache LDAP authentication. I upgraded from MoinMoin 1.3.5 to 1.5.2. (made backups, deleted /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin and installed new version) Also configured MoinMoin to autocreate new users. Everything seems to work except for saving/preview in graphical editor. When I click save or preview button, I get two segmentation faults in apache error log: [Wed Mar 01 09:27:57 2006] [notice] child pid 26882 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Wed Mar 01 09:27:58 2006] [notice] child pid 26907 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) (And the browser displays an empty page) I tried to upgrade mod_python (old version was 3.1.4), but that didn't help. Any ideas? Rgds, Neeme Fleming, Brian J. wrote: > Hi All, > > I am running: > > Apache 2.0.55 > mod_python-3.2.7 > Python2.4.2 > > > I got MoinMoin up and running, and it works fairly well. But I am > having a problem with the GUI editor. > > When I am editing in GUI mode, if I click preview I get a "page can't > be found". If I try to save while in the GUI editor I get the same thing. > > Any clues? > > Text mode works fine. > > > > ============================================================ > The information contained in this message may be privileged and > confidential and protected from disclosure. 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First, I've seen some references to "mig10" and "mig11" on the mailing list regarding things that need to be done for such a change, but haven't found anything on the current HelpOnInstalling page. Is there a page on the moin website that talks about this? Next, a few general questions. This will be a public documentation wiki. I've developed the initial content, and that's what's going up on the new wiki. There are a few "cleanup" things I'd like to do as part of the migration process, and I was wondering if people could give me feedback on what might cause problems. 1) Since I don't need the edit history anymore (I'll keep an archived copy, just in case, of course), I'd like to reset the current pages content so that everything is set to be the initial rev, with no edit history. Is there a script to do this? If not, I can easily write one in Python, but then are there things I need to worry about updating other than the current revision file for each page, and eliminating old revisions in the revs directory for each page? For example, will it cause problems if I remove edit log files, or alternatively, don't remove them? And can I remove any cache files, to make sure I get a "clean start"? 2) I'm using a custom theme on my current wiki. Any special problems I might run into when migrating it over? 3) This is sort of a followup question to one that was previously answered by Thomas (thank you!). Our site will have both pages editable by known users, and pages editable only be editorial users. The known users will obviously not be able to change the access permissions on pages. Now, if they create a new page, and I've set the site so the _default_ page is not editable by standard known users, is there a way of ensuring that pages they create will be set with the appropriate permissions so that they can actually edit those pages? I have Moin almost but not quite installed (next question), so I can't experiment with this quite yet. 4) Finally, my RST (Real Stupid Question :-) ); how do I find the user and group of the Apache process so that I can set permissions on the moin install correctly. I'm superuser on my machine, so there's no problem that way, I just don't know where to look! (It's been a _long_ time since I did real sysadmin on Unix, and in any case this is a Cobalt server with which I have zero familiarity). Thanks, Ken From Brian.Fleming at tellabs.com Fri Mar 10 09:52:04 2006 From: Brian.Fleming at tellabs.com (Fleming, Brian J.) Date: Fri Mar 10 09:52:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin.cgi Message-ID: What is the moin.cgi file that is described in some of the installs? I thought moin was written using python, yet I can launch the moin.cgi and it looks identical. ============================================================ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Tellabs ============================================================ From jmolina at brujulatelecom.com Fri Mar 10 10:14:00 2006 From: jmolina at brujulatelecom.com (Jose E. Molina) Date: Fri Mar 10 10:14:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] New to MoinMoin - Integration with PyLucene Message-ID: <4411C1A2.5000008@brujulatelecom.com> Hi there, We're setting up a wiki for internal user in our company. We've tried dokuwiki, fast easy and nice, but we would want more funcionality. I've installed Moin engine 1.5 and have been testing it, great engine. One of the most important features we would need is a good search system, with possibility to search inside Docs and PDF. I've seen that there is some work done in integrating Lucene with MoinMoin Wiki. Is it just in development stage, or there is already some kind of extension to do advanced searchs? From nirs at freeshell.org Fri Mar 10 11:47:15 2006 From: nirs at freeshell.org (Nir Soffer) Date: Fri Mar 10 11:47:15 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin.cgi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <898a36a1bcbd39d7082fe78ab3a4ad77@freeshell.org> On 10/03/2006, at 19:51, Fleming, Brian J. wrote: > What is the moin.cgi file that is described in some of the installs? I > thought moin was written using python, cgi is way to deploy a web application, which may be written in Python (or any other language). moin.cgi is the file use to run moin as a cgi. > yet I can launch the moin.cgi and > it looks identical. ? Best Regards, Nir Soffer From srinathava at gmail.com Fri Mar 10 20:58:02 2006 From: srinathava at gmail.com (Srinath Avadhanula) Date: Fri Mar 10 20:58:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Searching for backlinks taking very long... Message-ID: Hi Moin users and developers, First of all, a big thanks for MoinMoin. I am really enjoying documenting my research and everything else on a personal moinmoin installation. I have a couple of questions: 1. When I rename a page, is it possible to have MoinMoin also search for references to the original page and replace the text there with the new name. I used to use TWiki and it had this feature. It makes refactoring pages much more easy. 2. It also looks like MoinMoin is very easy to extend and I would even be willing to write a macro or something to do this. I would guess that I would need to search for all pages which link to the page in question. However, it looks like searching for 'link:MyTopic' takes _very_ long (almost 10-15 seconds every time). I am wondering if this is expected or there is something messed up in my installation. At the same time, search merely for 'MyTopic' (even a full text search) usually takes only 0.2 seconds or so. Thank you, Regards, Srinath From srinathava at gmail.com Fri Mar 10 22:07:02 2006 From: srinathava at gmail.com (Srinath Avadhanula) Date: Fri Mar 10 22:07:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Searching for backlinks taking very long... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, On 3/10/06, Srinath Avadhanula wrote: > question. However, it looks like searching for 'link:MyTopic' takes > _very_ long (almost 10-15 seconds every time). I am wondering if this > is expected or there is something messed up in my installation. At the > same time, search merely for 'MyTopic' (even a full text search) > usually takes only 0.2 seconds or so. > It looks like this is not typical behavior. Apparently, searching for a link: should take less time than searching in the whole text for the same thing. I talked with on #moin at irc.freenode.net and s/he told me to check up on whether the pagelinks files in the cache/ directory were being created fine. Just wanted to follow up. I did check and it looks like they are in fine shape. They have the correct links in them and have the same time-stamp as the current file. However, a search for 'link:SomeTopic' still takes 15 seconds. It looks like I have struck a bug :( Thank you, Regards, Srinath Avadhanula From zyf_sz at tom.com Fri Mar 10 22:10:01 2006 From: zyf_sz at tom.com (Zhang Yunfeng) Date: Fri Mar 10 22:10:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] wrong link in visit history Message-ID: <20060311141817.0717.ZYF_SZ@tom.com> Hi, I'm using Desktop Edition 1.52 rc1 on my computer, WinXp system. I marked one page's name as "chapter 1: introduction", and it's ok to edit and save this page. and the url to the page http://localhost:8080/Chapter1%3A_Introduction also works. But the visit history at the top of page displays wrong link to this page as "http://localhost:8080/InterWiki". It seems that Moin has parsed the link as an interwiki. Is it a bug? ZhangYunfeng From alan.ezust at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 10:35:02 2006 From: alan.ezust at gmail.com (Alan Ezust) Date: Sat Mar 11 10:35:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Problems with GUI Mode In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am using the GUI editor without problems on my farm of moins. It works from windows explorer, mozilla classic, adn firefox. I haven't gotten it to work with Konqueror yet. It does seem to be finicky if you have it embedded in another page that puts it in a frame, however. Then I can't see any GUI editor window at all. It also seems to be finicky about using a recent version of javascript. But other than that, I am quite impressed! My configuration is: Apache/2.0.55 (Debian) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.4.2-1 mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8a Server at localhost Port 80 Debian linux 2.6.15 sid > Fleming, Brian J. wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am running: > > > > Apache 2.0.55 > > mod_python-3.2.7 > > Python2.4.2 > > > > > > I got MoinMoin up and running, and it works fairly well. But I am > > having a problem with the GUI editor. > > > > When I am editing in GUI mode, if I click preview I get a "page can't > > be found". If I try to save while in the GUI editor I get the same > thing. > > > > Any clues? > > > > Text mode works fine. > > > > From srinathava at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 17:24:13 2006 From: srinathava at gmail.com (Srinath Avadhanula) Date: Sat Mar 11 17:24:13 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Searching for backlinks taking very long... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Yet another followup. I feel stupid carrying out such an enthusiastic conversation with myself. On 3/10/06, Srinath Avadhanula wrote: > > However, a search for 'link:SomeTopic' still takes 15 seconds. It > looks like I have struck a bug :( > On exploring the source of what took so long, it turns out that the huge percentage of time was in acquiring and releasing the read lock when reading the pagelinks files. If I change the ``locking`` variable at the beginning of caching.py to 0, then searching for 'link:SomeTopic' drops from 10 seconds to 0.2 seconds (an improvement of 50X!) Since I am running a personal MoinMoin which no one else sees/edits, I guess this should be safe for me. However, I am wondering if there might be a better way to do read locking. It seems to be an excessively costly measure to take. My first question still remains :: Is there a way to make the Rename action also automatically search through all pages for links to the original name and change those too? Thank you, Regards, Srinath From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 12 03:14:01 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 12 03:14:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: New to MoinMoin - Integration with PyLucene References: <4411C1A2.5000008@brujulatelecom.com> Message-ID: <1dtx4xvk9np6r$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:12:50 +0100, Jose E. Molina wrote: > One of the most important features we would need is a good search > system, with possibility to search inside Docs and PDF. I've seen that > there is some work done in integrating Lucene with MoinMoin Wiki. Is it > just in development stage, or there is already some kind of extension to > do advanced searchs? Advanced searches are already possible, see HelpOnSearching. But Moin already supports full text indexed searches as well. You can enable "Lupy" in the configuration (see HelpOnConfiguration). There is a patch to use PyLucene in the wiki (which should be faster). Lupy is considered unstable. Kind regards, Alexander From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 12 03:18:59 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 12 03:18:59 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Dynamic User Groups References: <6FAB474893963D4E876FE660DC96C0717EAA69@azsmsx401> Message-ID: <9wvufkot5ewz.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:32:57 -0700, Schwols, Keith C wrote: > Has anyone tried making an ACL Group page dynamic? This isn't supported yet and I don't know any patch. Kind regards, Alexander From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 12 03:21:02 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 12 03:21:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: moving pages from one wiki to another References: <85D28AA9-531B-49CE-A508-55FA2B27D867@onemanifest.net> Message-ID: <13yvvk9v9e3kz$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:55:00 +0100, Peter Teunissen wrote: > Can I safely copy the folders I need from one 'pages' > directory to another and add links on the existing pages to the new > ones? Should work. You would need to copy the user files as well if you want to see names in the page history. Kind regards, Alexander From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 12 03:31:03 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 12 03:31:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: wrong link in visit history References: <20060311141817.0717.ZYF_SZ@tom.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:19:11 +0800, Zhang Yunfeng wrote: > It seems that Moin has parsed the link > as an interwiki. I tried to reproduce it in the main wiki and it worked for me. Kind regards, Alexnader From jimpop at yahoo.com Sun Mar 12 19:40:00 2006 From: jimpop at yahoo.com (Jim Popovitch) Date: Sun Mar 12 19:40:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: [MoinMoin] Update of "MoinMoinDownload" by PaulBredbury In-Reply-To: <20060313021122.3171.52305@thinkmo.de> References: <20060313021122.3171.52305@thinkmo.de> Message-ID: <4414E1A2.1000402@yahoo.com> MoinMoin Wiki wrote: > Dear Wiki user, > > You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "MoinMoin" for > change notification. > > The following page has been changed by PaulBredbury: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinDownload > > The comment on the change is: Removed spam Why isn't their an ACL on some of the more important MoinMoin pages? It seems to me that a malicious download URL, if even for a few seconds, is a bad thing. -Jim P. From HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int Mon Mar 13 02:13:04 2006 From: HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int (Hans-Joachim Ehlers) Date: Mon Mar 13 02:13:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: RE: Re: Problems with GUI Mode (Fleming, Brian J.) Message-ID: On AIX 5.1 with apache 2.0.55 , python 2.4.2 and MoinMoin 1.5.2 WITHOUT modpython i have so far no issues with the GUI editor but many problems with mod_python on AIX and Linux ( Suse 9.3) so we dropped mod_python. Regards Hajo Message: 1 Subject: RE: [Moin-user] Re: Problems with GUI Mode Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 22:23:49 -0600 From: "Fleming, Brian J." To: "Neeme Praks" , You have any luck with this problem? I'm still seeing the same issue. GUI editor does not save or preview. I'm about to drop moinmoin as much as I liked it at first glance. From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Mon Mar 13 02:15:01 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Mon Mar 13 02:15:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: [MoinMoin] Update of "MoinMoinDownload" by PaulBredbury References: <20060313021122.3171.52305@thinkmo.de> <4414E1A2.1000402@yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:06:10 -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> The comment on the change is: Removed spam > > Why isn't their an ACL on some of the more important MoinMoin pages? It > seems to me that a malicious download URL, if even for a few seconds, is > a bad thing. Because it obviously worked - he removed the spam in less than 5 minutes each. Kind regards, Alexander, who checks if the pattern are already entered into BadContent From matthew.brett at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 02:12:07 2006 From: matthew.brett at gmail.com (Matthew Brett) Date: Tue Mar 14 02:12:07 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Advice on design of new Wiki site Message-ID: <1e2af89e0603140211j1772c7e1w99f8411b4b1d0298@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Please forgive me if these answers should have been more obvious to me from the information already available, but, can I ask some advice about design? I want to move a medium-sized website: http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/Imaging/Common/ over to MoinMoin, to make it easier to ... well you know all that. The website breaks up naturally into sections, and I wanted to make that more obvious to the user, by having slightly different themes - maybe even just colors - for the pages in each section. As far as I can see, the most straightforward way of doing that is simply to put each section into its own wiki, with its own theme. Here's my question: is there another straightforward way to do this? If not, what is the usual method of linking pages across the wikis? Lastly - I have a lot of HTML conversion to do. I have started playing with the text_html_text_x_moin.py routines in MoinMoin. Before I fall further into the hacking that I am doing now - is this the right place to start? Has anyone else tried to use these routines for converting web pages? Thanks a lot, Matthew From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Tue Mar 14 14:02:02 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Tue Mar 14 14:02:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Advice on design of new Wiki site References: <1e2af89e0603140211j1772c7e1w99f8411b4b1d0298@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:11:50 +0000, Matthew Brett wrote: > Lastly - I have a lot of HTML conversion to do. I have started > playing with the text_html_text_x_moin.py routines in MoinMoin. > Before I fall further into the hacking that I am doing now - is this > the right place to start? Has anyone else tried to use these routines > for converting web pages? I tried to do it. The first problem is that expat chokes on HTML that is not wellformed (foo etc.) which is not uncommon. The next problem is that the converter code chokes on unknown tags (which could be disabled with a few patches. I stopped hacking because of the first issue. It should be possible to find an HTML/SGML parser that outputs a DOM, though, and use it (or make expat less strict?) Kind regards, Alexander From gia at webde.de Wed Mar 15 05:31:05 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Wed Mar 15 05:31:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Typo on German Helppage Message-ID: <441816DC.2080106@webde.de> On http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HilfeZuAccessControlLists there is a typo in here: Aufgrund dieses first match-Algorithmus sollte man die ACLs sortieren: Zu Beginn einzelne Usernamen, dann spezielle Gruppen, anschlie?end algemeinere Gruppen und zum Schluss Known und All. "allgemeinere" should have been written with two "l". I'd prefer to fix this myself, but I'm not allowed to edit the page. Regards, Gisbert Amm From gia at webde.de Wed Mar 15 05:52:06 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Wed Mar 15 05:52:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Typo on German Helppage In-Reply-To: <441816DC.2080106@webde.de> References: <441816DC.2080106@webde.de> Message-ID: <44181BE8.2010103@webde.de> Gisbert Amm wrote: > On http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HilfeZuAccessControlLists there is a > typo in here: > > Aufgrund dieses first match-Algorithmus sollte man die ACLs sortieren: > Zu Beginn einzelne Usernamen, dann spezielle Gruppen, anschlie?end > algemeinere Gruppen und zum Schluss Known und All. > > "allgemeinere" should have been written with two "l". > > I'd prefer to fix this myself, but I'm not allowed to edit the page. > There are some more minor issues on that page; I'll not list them all here. If someone gives me the right to edit the page, I'd really like to correct it. -Gisbert From nirs at freeshell.org Wed Mar 15 06:52:10 2006 From: nirs at freeshell.org (Nir Soffer) Date: Wed Mar 15 06:52:10 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Typo on German Helppage In-Reply-To: <44181BE8.2010103@webde.de> References: <441816DC.2080106@webde.de> <44181BE8.2010103@webde.de> Message-ID: <8ff4b49c686d5469727852e03130ee40@freeshell.org> On 15/03/2006, at 15:51, Gisbert Amm wrote: > There are some more minor issues on that page; I'll not list them all > here. If someone gives me the right to edit the page, I'd really like > to correct it. See http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/EditingOnMoinMaster Best Regards, Nir Soffer From Mark.Martinec+moin at ijs.si Wed Mar 15 06:56:01 2006 From: Mark.Martinec+moin at ijs.si (Mark Martinec) Date: Wed Mar 15 06:56:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] JavaScript messes UTF-8 chars in edit link, edit misdirected under IE Message-ID: <200603151554.51886.Mark.Martinec+moin@ijs.si> Using moin-1.5.2 for an intranet site which makes heavy use of page names (URL) with national characters. This works fine under Firefox, and even works well for reading under IE. The problem happens when JavaScript (common.js) rewrites a menu edit link of the page (other links in the menu are fine). Here is an example, the page URL (stripping out a common prefix) is: Tehni%C4%8Dni_servisi this produces an 8-bit mess in the browser bottom line when mouse is hovering on the edit link: Tehni\xc4?ni_servisi?action=edit&editor=guipossible (lousy transcript, it looks even uglier showing weird characters) and clicking on the edit link results in the following URL as seen by a web browser: Tehni%C3%84%C2%8Dni_servisi?action=edit&editor=guipossible As you can see, the raw string of 8-bit UTF-8 characters gets encoded again, forming an invalid (doubly encoded) URL. Miraculously, this works fine under Firefox or Konqueror :) For now a quick fix is to modify common.js, stipping out most of the stuff, or to disable 'active scripting' in IE. Is there a better fix for the mess? Mark From HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int Wed Mar 15 07:09:14 2006 From: HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int (Hans-Joachim Ehlers) Date: Wed Mar 15 07:09:14 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Multiline table delimiter Message-ID: Hi folks I would like to have some data displayed side by side Like A B a1 b1 a2 b2 The problem is: Changing || a || b || || a1 || b1 || || a2 || b2 || to || a || b || || a2 || b1 || || a1 || b2 || looks simple but if the table entries are pretty long its more or less a mess within the edit window if you would like just to swap 2 entries or even going to resort a row In this example a2 with a1 without messing around with b1/b2 If i am using just a table with two rows and using the [[BR]] as a line breaker || a[[BR]] a1 [[BR]] a2 [[BR]] || b || its hard not to insert by accident a CR which will break the table because of the line width gets pretty long So what i am looking for is something like a multline table delimiter || row1 Next Line 1 Next Line 2 || row2 Row2 Next Line 1 Row2 Next Line 2 || because this way i can easly change the contents of a row within the editor. Any hints ? Hajo From Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu Wed Mar 15 07:16:03 2006 From: Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu (Hiers, Richard) Date: Wed Mar 15 07:16:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Multiline table delimiter Message-ID: Hajo, You might try the DumbTable macro: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/parser/DumbTable.py Richard -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Hans-Joachim Ehlers Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:08 AM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Multiline table delimiter Hi folks I would like to have some data displayed side by side Like A B a1 b1 a2 b2 The problem is: Changing || a || b || || a1 || b1 || || a2 || b2 || to || a || b || || a2 || b1 || || a1 || b2 || looks simple but if the table entries are pretty long its more or less a mess within the edit window if you would like just to swap 2 entries or even going to resort a row In this example a2 with a1 without messing around with b1/b2 If i am using just a table with two rows and using the [[BR]] as a line breaker || a[[BR]] a1 [[BR]] a2 [[BR]] || b || its hard not to insert by accident a CR which will break the table because of the line width gets pretty long So what i am looking for is something like a multline table delimiter || row1 Next Line 1 Next Line 2 || row2 Row2 Next Line 1 Row2 Next Line 2 || because this way i can easly change the contents of a row within the editor. Any hints ? Hajo ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From ReubenM at uhd.edu Wed Mar 15 07:27:01 2006 From: ReubenM at uhd.edu (Reuben, Mallika) Date: Wed Mar 15 07:27:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Need help installing moin moin. Message-ID: <9F92B51F2F581A4EAEC46C84759BE79D016FEACE@BALI.uhd.campus> Hi all, I have been trying to install moin moin and i am getting constantly this following message!please try to help me if any of you have encountered the same error message! No such file or directory: exec of '/usr/share/moin/HunWiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi' failed Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zylka at math.uni-paderborn.de Wed Mar 15 07:33:01 2006 From: zylka at math.uni-paderborn.de (Benjamin Zylka) Date: Wed Mar 15 07:33:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Multiline table delimiter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4418337A.50302@math.uni-paderborn.de> Hans-Joachim Ehlers wrote: > Hi folks > > I would like to have some data displayed side by side > > Like > A B > a1 b1 > a2 b2 > ... > > Any hints ? > Hajo Hi Hans-Joachim, maybe it would help to make the following: ---cut--- || [[Include(PageA)]] ||<50% ^> [Include(PageB)]] || ---paste--- Where PageA looks something like this: ---cut--- A a1 b1 [[Action(edit)]] ---paste--- Benjamin Zylka From evanf at hope-link.org Wed Mar 15 09:41:09 2006 From: evanf at hope-link.org (Evan Frisch) Date: Wed Mar 15 09:41:09 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Can MoinMoin on IIS do this? Message-ID: <18889298D36C404CA7AF3189FBD2EECAC5040B@msg01.hope-link.org> I am in the process of moving a MoinMoin wiki from Apache to IIS. If you are using MoinMoin on IIS, could you please suggest how to remove the moin.cgi part of the url, if this is possible? Examples: The wiki will display a page correctly only if moin.cgi is included in the url like this: http://www.example.com/mywiki/moin.cgi/WikiSandBox I would like to be able to display the same page as follows, without including moin.cgi in the url, which currently returns a 404 error: http://www.example.com/mywiki/WikiSandBox On Apache, this latter example without the moin.cgi works fine due to the ScriptAlias. Version Information: I am running MoinMoin 1.5.2 with Python 2.4.2 on IIS 6.0 on Windows Server 2003. Conjecture: I think I need something in IIS that is comparable to ScriptAlias in Apache. IIS has a related feature called wildcard application mappings, but that only works with an ISAPI application. (See http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/WindowsServer2003/Library/IIS/5 c5ae5e0-f4f9-44b0-a743-f4c3a5ff68ec.mspx.) There is only an outdated MoinMoin ISAPI (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoin_ISAPI) available, which does not work with versions 1.5.x. Someone also asked this question on the MoinMoin wiki at http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinQuestions/Installing, but the responses only explained how this is done on Apache. I would appreciate any suggestions about how to do this in IIS, if it can be done without writing an ISAPI application. Thanks. Evan From HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int Thu Mar 16 01:03:06 2006 From: HansJoachim.Ehlers at eumetsat.int (Hans-Joachim Ehlers) Date: Thu Mar 16 01:03:06 2006 Subject: Subject: [Moin-user] Need help installing moin moin. Message-ID: >From: "Reuben, Mallika" >Subject: [Moin-user] Need help installing moin moin. > No such file or directory: exec of > '/usr/share/moin/HunWiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi' failed > Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi Check that the bang line of the moin.cgi point to the correct python interpreter meaning if the first line is something like: #!/usr/local/bin/python then check if python is at that location or if the first line is #!/usr/bin/env python then check that the path which will be provided by your webserver environment is able to find python. A simple test would be to replace the contents of moin.cgi with ( backup the file before of cource ) $ cat moin.cgi /usr/bin/env end access moinmoin again from your favorite webbrower. This way you will get the environment and you can check if the python interpreter is within the path. If not extend the path for apache or use a absolut path in the moin.cgi for the python interpreter hth Hajo From matthew.brett at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 01:18:02 2006 From: matthew.brett at gmail.com (Matthew Brett) Date: Thu Mar 16 01:18:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] mod_python and farms Message-ID: <1e2af89e0603160117q6a05e96qa7f9166c47b9f7ea@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Does anyone have wiki farms working well with mod_python? I have no problems using Apache CGI, with this setup in httpd.conf Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/" ScriptAlias /wiki1 /usr/local/var/moin/bin/moin.cgi ScriptAlias /wiki2 /usr/local/var/moin/bin/moin.cgi where moin.cgi adds /usr/local/var/moin/bin/moin to the path, and this directory has my farm and individual configs. My underlay directory is /usr/local/var/moin/underlay and is shared between wikis. However, when I try mod_python, I was (naively) expecting this httpd.conf to work: Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/" SetHandler python-program PythonPath "['/usr/local/var/moin'] + sys.path" PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run SetHandler python-program PythonPath "['/usr/local/var/moin'] + sys.path" PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run It does up to a point, but in this case all the shared HelpOnEditing etc pages point to wiki1, even if they are in wiki2 pages. Is there any easy way to solve this for mod_python? Thanks a lot, Matthew From fdrake at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 08:08:05 2006 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Thu Mar 16 08:08:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Language packages for 1.5.2? Message-ID: <9cee7ab80603160807m58dd1e00i76c3db2cdc2053@mail.gmail.com> Are there separate language packages for MoinMoin 1.5.2, or should I use the 1.3.5 packages? I lost my wiki due to a disk crash (what backups?), and am setting up the replacement site with the newer version of MoinMoin. Fortunately, I do still have a copy of my theme. :-) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "There is no wealth but life." --John Ruskin From kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 16 13:02:06 2006 From: kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net (Kenneth McDonald) Date: Thu Mar 16 13:02:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Correct value for "url_prefix" in "wikiconfig.py" Message-ID: <4419D219.1030306@sbcglobal.net> I'm trying to diagnose why Apache isn't correctly getting through to my moin setup (executing moin.cgi in the cgi-bin works correctly, all that good html is output), and am wondering what the correct value in this part of wikiconfig.py should be: # This must be '/wiki' for twisted and standalone. For CGI, it should # match your Apache Alias setting. url_prefix = '/home/sites/home/web' The value I have there right now is my system's DocumentRoot setting. the httpd.conf doesn't include an Alias directive, so I'm not quite sure what I should do here. Thanks, Ken From fdrake at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 13:07:05 2006 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Thu Mar 16 13:07:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Correct value for "url_prefix" in "wikiconfig.py" In-Reply-To: <4419D219.1030306@sbcglobal.net> References: <4419D219.1030306@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80603161306l777236ebg1debe727a60cbba0@mail.gmail.com> On 3/16/06, Kenneth McDonald wrote: > # This must be '/wiki' for twisted and standalone. For CGI, it should > # match your Apache Alias setting. > url_prefix = '/home/sites/home/web' > > The value I have there right now is my system's DocumentRoot setting. > the httpd.conf doesn't include an Alias directive, so I'm not quite sure > what I should do here. DocumentRoot is a path on the local system; url_prefix is a path within the browser-accessible web space. For instance, if your wiki FrontPage is accessed as http://www.example.net/mywiki/FrontPage then url_prefix should be "/mywiki". -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "There is no wealth but life." --John Ruskin From emin.martinian at gmail.com Thu Mar 16 14:40:06 2006 From: emin.martinian at gmail.com (Emin Martinian) Date: Thu Mar 16 14:40:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] trouble setting up wiki with MoinMoin 1.5.2 Message-ID: I'm having trouble setting up a wiki using MoinMoni version 1.5.2 and python 2.3. After installing and following the instructions to create a wiki instance in ~/public_html/mywiki, I keep getting ConfigurationError data_dir "/org/mywiki/data" does not exists, or has incorrect ownership or permissions. I have tried everything including setting the data_dir variable in wikiconfig.py to the absolute path of my data directory and making the data directory world readable/writable. What I find especially strange is that the configuration error seems to think that my data_dir is "/org/mywiki/data" but I never set it to that and when I grep /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/MoinMoin for that string, it does not exist. Basically I believe that the wikiconfig.py file is not being read. I tried looking in the source code, but I couldn't find where it imports wikiconfig.py so I was unable to verify this. (By the way, I'm assuming that the wikiconfig.py file is supposed to be in the same directory as moin.cgi, but perhaps that is my error. I can't imagine where else wikiconfig.py should go, though...). Thanks in advance, -Emin Martinian From dan at catfolks.net Thu Mar 16 16:17:04 2006 From: dan at catfolks.net (Dan M) Date: Thu Mar 16 16:17:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Confused about Apache config Message-ID: <4419FFF1.5030105@catfolks.net> I've read through the online docs a few times, but I'm still a little unsure what I'm doing. My web site is www.smurgle.net. I'd like to set up a MoinMoin wiki, to accessed via http://www.smurgle.net/projects I've got MoinMoin installed under /usr/local/share/moin. I created a directory /usr/local/share/moin/projects, with data/, underlay/, and cgi-bin/ under that. I copied the appropriate files into data and underlay, moin.cgi into cgi-bin, editted wikiconfig.py, and ln'd wikiconfig.py into cgi-bin. Now, in my Apache setup I've got a section that looks like: ServerAdmin dan at catfolks.net DocumentRoot ServerName www.smurgle.net ServerAlias smurgle.net ErrorLog logs/smurgle.net-error_log CustomLog logs/smurgle.net-access_log common ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/cgi-bin" Alias /wiki/ "/usr/local/share/moin/htdocs/" ScriptAlias /projects "/usr/local/share/moin/projects/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" I'm not sure what the "Alias" line is doing for me. If I'm wanting to access the Wiki at /projects, do I want the "Alias" line to reference "/projects"? If I do that, I believe it will hide the Script Alias line. Pointers on what I'm doing wrong would be most welcome! From nirs at freeshell.org Fri Mar 17 00:25:13 2006 From: nirs at freeshell.org (Nir Soffer) Date: Fri Mar 17 00:25:13 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Correct value for "url_prefix" in "wikiconfig.py" In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80603161306l777236ebg1debe727a60cbba0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4419D219.1030306@sbcglobal.net> <9cee7ab80603161306l777236ebg1debe727a60cbba0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 16/03/2006, at 23:06, Fred Drake wrote: > On 3/16/06, Kenneth McDonald wrote: >> # This must be '/wiki' for twisted and standalone. For CGI, it should >> # match your Apache Alias setting. >> url_prefix = '/home/sites/home/web' >> >> The value I have there right now is my system's DocumentRoot setting. >> the httpd.conf doesn't include an Alias directive, so I'm not quite >> sure >> what I should do here. > > DocumentRoot is a path on the local system; url_prefix is a path > within the browser-accessible web space. For instance, if your wiki > FrontPage is accessed as > > http://www.example.net/mywiki/FrontPage > > then url_prefix should be "/mywiki". No! don't listen to Fred, you may loose your wiki :-) url_prefix has nothing to do with your wiki name, and they should never be the same. url_prefix is the url prefix of moin static files (css and images). For example: http://yourdomain/wiki/modern/css/screen.css While your wiki url look like this: http://yourdomain/mywiki/pagename Back to the question, how do you set this value? Just leave this as is, "/wiki". This value is used by moin when it creates links to static files (If you look into the html source, you will find those urls). Now, what Apache is going to do with "http://yourdomain/wiki/modern/css/screen.css"? there is no "wiki" directory in your document root. Thats why you need the Alias configuration: Alias /wiki/ /usr/share/moin/htdocs/ This tell Apache that any url that starts with /wiki/, should be served from the path "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/". This path should be adapted to your installation. Best Regards, Nir Soffer From nirs at freeshell.org Fri Mar 17 00:33:05 2006 From: nirs at freeshell.org (Nir Soffer) Date: Fri Mar 17 00:33:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] trouble setting up wiki with MoinMoin 1.5.2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1eae1609a1a4fae6ec1bc00b6e7c9a21@freeshell.org> On 17/03/2006, at 00:39, Emin Martinian wrote: > Basically I believe that the wikiconfig.py file is not being read. Seems to be the problem. > I > tried looking in the source code, but I couldn't find where it imports > wikiconfig.py so I was unable to verify this. Importing the config is more complicated than "import wikiconfig". Check multiconfig.py if you want to see the details. > (By the way, I'm > assuming that the wikiconfig.py file is supposed to be in the same > directory as moin.cgi, but perhaps that is my error. I can't imagine > where else wikiconfig.py should go, though...). wikiconfig can be anywhere. To make it importable, you must add the path to the directory where it is located to sys.path. Look into moin.cgi in the comments about setting the system path. Best Regards, Nir Soffer From nirs at freeshell.org Fri Mar 17 00:43:00 2006 From: nirs at freeshell.org (Nir Soffer) Date: Fri Mar 17 00:43:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Confused about Apache config In-Reply-To: <4419FFF1.5030105@catfolks.net> References: <4419FFF1.5030105@catfolks.net> Message-ID: On 17/03/2006, at 02:16, Dan M wrote: > I've got MoinMoin installed under /usr/local/share/moin. I created a > directory /usr/local/share/moin/projects, with data/, underlay/, and > cgi-bin/ under that. I copied the appropriate files into data and > underlay, moin.cgi into cgi-bin, editted wikiconfig.py, and ln'd > wikiconfig.py into cgi-bin. > > Now, in my Apache setup I've got a section that looks like: > > ServerAdmin dan at catfolks.net > DocumentRoot This should NOT point to "/usr/local/share/moin/projects" - or all your sensitive data will be served by the web server. There is a big red warning about that in the installation docs. > ServerName www.smurgle.net > ServerAlias smurgle.net > ErrorLog logs/smurgle.net-error_log > CustomLog logs/smurgle.net-access_log common > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin "/cgi-bin" This is wrong, just remove this line. > Alias /wiki/ "/usr/local/share/moin/htdocs/" > ScriptAlias /projects > "/usr/local/share/moin/projects/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" These two lines look correct. > > > I'm not sure what the "Alias" line is doing for me. Look in my answer to Kenneth. > If I'm wanting to access the Wiki at /projects, do I want the "Alias" > line to reference "/projects"? NO! > If I do that, I believe it will hide the Script Alias line. Or ScriptAlias will hide the Alias. In any case, it won't work. Best Regards, Nir Soffer From fdrake at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 07:53:06 2006 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Fri Mar 17 07:53:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Correct value for "url_prefix" in "wikiconfig.py" In-Reply-To: References: <4419D219.1030306@sbcglobal.net> <9cee7ab80603161306l777236ebg1debe727a60cbba0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80603170752w1c317594yc1ddd9af743a7447@mail.gmail.com> On 3/17/06, Nir Soffer wrote: > No! don't listen to Fred, you may loose your wiki :-) Oh, the shame! Sorry, Kenneth; I *thought* I was giving correct information. Don't listen to me. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "There is no wealth but life." --John Ruskin From ikramullahkhanpk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 17 13:09:04 2006 From: ikramullahkhanpk at yahoo.com (Ikram ullah Khan) Date: Fri Mar 17 13:09:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin User Authentication Message-ID: <20060317210851.74284.qmail@web30409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Everybody, Im doing a homework fo a Security subject. Can any body help me with the following issues. Also, If you have access to documentation regarding these issues please let me know. 1. How does MoinMoin authenticate a user on the web? I mean is it like url re-writing, or there is support from the container for keeping tracks of sessions or cookies or what? 2. What are the limitations of the authentications process that Wiki uses and 3. Any idea on how to improve the security on wiki as far as user authentication is concerned? 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If I run Python interactively with the same PYTHONPATH as I pass when running moin.cgi, I can import docutils just fine (including all the imports checked in MoinMoin.parser.rst). When rendering a reStructuredText page in MoinMoin, however, I see the message: Rendering of reStructured text is not possible, please install docutils. There were some notes in the MoinMoin wiki about docutils, but this didn't seem to match anything mentioned there. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "There is no wealth but life." --John Ruskin From matthew.cahn at bms.com Fri Mar 17 14:47:02 2006 From: matthew.cahn at bms.com (Matthew Cahn) Date: Fri Mar 17 14:47:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] mod_python and farms In-Reply-To: <1e2af89e0603160117q6a05e96qa7f9166c47b9f7ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <1e2af89e0603160117q6a05e96qa7f9166c47b9f7ea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441B3BDD.8070306@bms.com> I have a two-wiki farm with mod_python, but I have two DNS aliases for the two wikis, with Apache set up as a reverse proxy with virtual hosts. It sends requests for the two wikis to Apache daemons on two different ports, depending on which alias is used. This avoids any question of what might be getting shared by mod_python. I can't say I know that this is necessary, but it works and gives nice URL's for wikis. Matthew (Cahn) Matthew Brett wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone have wiki farms working well with mod_python? > >I have no problems using Apache CGI, with this setup in httpd.conf > >Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/" >ScriptAlias /wiki1 /usr/local/var/moin/bin/moin.cgi >ScriptAlias /wiki2 /usr/local/var/moin/bin/moin.cgi > >where moin.cgi adds /usr/local/var/moin/bin/moin to the path, and this >directory has my farm and individual configs. > >My underlay directory is /usr/local/var/moin/underlay and is shared >between wikis. > >However, when I try mod_python, I was (naively) expecting this >httpd.conf to work: > >Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/" > > > SetHandler python-program > PythonPath "['/usr/local/var/moin'] + sys.path" > PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run > > > > SetHandler python-program > PythonPath "['/usr/local/var/moin'] + sys.path" > PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run > > >It does up to a point, but in this case all the shared HelpOnEditing >etc pages point to wiki1, even if they are in wiki2 pages. > >Is there any easy way to solve this for mod_python? > >Thanks a lot, > >Matthew > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language >that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast >and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 >_______________________________________________ >Moin-user mailing list >Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Matthew Cahn % Principal Systems Analyst % Bristol-Myers Squibb Company % Mailbox code: H23-05 % P.O. Box 4000 % Princeton, NJ 08543-4000 % % Phone: (609) 252-3477 % Fax: (609) 252-6030 % Email: Matthew.Cahn at bms.com % Wireless email: matthew_cahn at imcingular.com %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From gilbert at voxmea.net Fri Mar 17 15:23:00 2006 From: gilbert at voxmea.net (Matthew Gilbert) Date: Fri Mar 17 15:23:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin 1.5.2 + docutils 0.4 ? In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80603171330n43b535e0pda14a288559fc9f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cee7ab80603171330n43b535e0pda14a288559fc9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <686372DF-9D9A-4DC8-95D0-E8DA6F342335@voxmea.net> Hi Fred, I'm using 1.5.2 and docutils 0.4 on two different wikis (both Python 2.3). One on Mac OS X and another on Linux. Both work fine for me. I just tried setting up another wiki using 1.5.2 and 0.4 on Ubuntu and it worked fine for me (docutils was installed from the Ubuntu repo). Any more clues on your setup might help in duplicating the issue. Thanks _matt On Mar 17, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Fred Drake wrote: > Has anyone here had success with MoinMoin 1.5.2 and docutils 0.4? I > had been using MoinMoin 1.3.5 and docutils 0.3.9, and it worked just > fine. In setting up the new versions of the software on a new > machine, I'm having less success. If I run Python interactively with > the same PYTHONPATH as I pass when running moin.cgi, I can import > docutils just fine (including all the imports checked in > MoinMoin.parser.rst). When rendering a reStructuredText page in > MoinMoin, however, I see the message: > > Rendering of reStructured text is not possible, please install > docutils. > > There were some notes in the MoinMoin wiki about docutils, but this > didn't seem to match anything mentioned there. > > > -Fred > > -- > Fred L. Drake, Jr. > "There is no wealth but life." --John Ruskin > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From fdrake at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 15:44:13 2006 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Fri Mar 17 15:44:13 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin 1.5.2 + docutils 0.4 ? In-Reply-To: <686372DF-9D9A-4DC8-95D0-E8DA6F342335@voxmea.net> References: <9cee7ab80603171330n43b535e0pda14a288559fc9f0@mail.gmail.com> <686372DF-9D9A-4DC8-95D0-E8DA6F342335@voxmea.net> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80603171543m2eabec26o151e99a54eea70a8@mail.gmail.com> On 3/17/06, Matthew Gilbert wrote: > Hi Fred, Hey Matt! Thanks for the ReST integration for MoinMoin; I've certainly enjoyed writing my pages in that instead of the more traditional markup. > I'm using 1.5.2 and docutils 0.4 on two different wikis (both Python > 2.3). One on Mac OS X and another on Linux. Both work fine for me. I > just tried setting up another wiki using 1.5.2 and 0.4 on Ubuntu and > it worked fine for me (docutils was installed from the Ubuntu repo). > Any more clues on your setup might help in duplicating the issue. Hmm. Sounds like this is likely an environmental issue, then. I'll have to poke around later when I've got some time to concentrate on it. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "There is no wealth but life." --John Ruskin From alan.ezust at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 20:51:03 2006 From: alan.ezust at gmail.com (Alan Ezust) Date: Fri Mar 17 20:51:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] mod_python and farms In-Reply-To: <441B3BDD.8070306@bms.com> References: <1e2af89e0603160117q6a05e96qa7f9166c47b9f7ea@mail.gmail.com> <441B3BDD.8070306@bms.com> Message-ID: I use mod_python with apache2. I have a conf file thaqt looks like this: ScriptAlias /moin /home/moin/cgi-bin/index.py AllowOverride All And then I have a .htaccess file in the cgi-bin that looks like this: AddHandler mod_python .py AddHandler mod_python .PY PythonPath "['/home/moin/cgi-bin', '/home/moin/config' + sys.path" PythonHandler index PythonDebug On From davidb at panix.com Fri Mar 17 20:54:01 2006 From: davidb at panix.com (David M. Besonen) Date: Fri Mar 17 20:54:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] corresponding file/directory structure? Message-ID: <441B2187.13132.2A61FD3A@localhost> does moin store pages like dokuwiki? e.g. in dokuwiki each page "is a directory so if my page ID is wact:tags:list it will correspond to a file / directory structure like ./wact/tags/list.txt" -- david From sean at dague.net Sat Mar 18 04:51:02 2006 From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague) Date: Sat Mar 18 04:51:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] getting xml-rpc to work Message-ID: <20060318125047.GL12535@underhill.no-ip.org> I've never actually been able to get xml-rpc to work on my own moin instances, which has been quite frustrating. I'm trying to figure out if there is a config option, or package that I am missing. The site is http://mhvlug.org, and even running the HelloWorld.py produces the following. dargo:~/code/moin-1.5.2/MoinMoin/scripts/xmlrpc-tools> ./HelloWorld.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "./HelloWorld.py", line 13, in ? print srcwiki.HelloWorld("Hello Wiki User!\n") File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xmlrpclib.py", line 1096, in __call__ return self.__send(self.__name, args) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xmlrpclib.py", line 1383, in __request verbose=self.__verbose File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xmlrpclib.py", line 1147, in request return self._parse_response(h.getfile(), sock) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xmlrpclib.py", line 1286, in _parse_response return u.close() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xmlrpclib.py", line 744, in close raise Fault(**self._stack[0]) xmlrpclib.Fault: Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Sean -- __________________________________________________________________ Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emin.martinian at gmail.com Sat Mar 18 11:57:00 2006 From: emin.martinian at gmail.com (Emin Martinian) Date: Sat Mar 18 11:57:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] trouble setting up wiki with MoinMoin 1.5.2 In-Reply-To: <1eae1609a1a4fae6ec1bc00b6e7c9a21@freeshell.org> References: <1eae1609a1a4fae6ec1bc00b6e7c9a21@freeshell.org> Message-ID: Thanks for the suggestion. The problem was indeed that I had not set the path properly in moin.cgi. When I added a sys.path.insert statement things worked properly. 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URL: From semente at gmail.com Sat Mar 18 17:42:01 2006 From: semente at gmail.com (Guilherme (semente)) Date: Sat Mar 18 17:42:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to create InterWiki name? Message-ID: <1142731811.29041.10.camel@biafra> Hello, How to create InterWiki name? Bye, semente PS: Sorry, my english is bad! -- Guilherme Mesquita Gondim (semente) From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 19 15:19:01 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 19 15:19:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: JavaScript messes UTF-8 chars in edit link, edit misdirected under IE References: <200603151554.51886.Mark.Martinec+moin@ijs.si> Message-ID: <1qjmsze8yck0c$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:54:51 +0100, Mark Martinec wrote: [Bug in the JS code?] > Is there a better fix for the mess? There is a bug report in the wiki about it. I added a note there that I could not reproduce it using IE 7 Beta 2. Please add further information there. Kind regards, Alexander From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 19 15:21:06 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 19 15:21:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Need help installing moin moin. References: <9F92B51F2F581A4EAEC46C84759BE79D016FEACE@BALI.uhd.campus> Message-ID: <8opk55a8y0at.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:26:01 -0600, Reuben, Mallika wrote: > No such file or directory: exec of > '/usr/share/moin/HunWiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi' failed > Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi Check that the moin.cgi file has an executable bit in the file permission, has Unix Line Ending and a correct bang path to python in the first line (those are the three general CGI troubleshooting rules). Kind regards, Alexander From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 19 15:31:00 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 19 15:31:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Language packages for 1.5.2? References: <9cee7ab80603160807m58dd1e00i76c3db2cdc2053@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15q8rv7c7bm8e$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:07:24 -0500, Fred Drake wrote: > Are there separate language packages for MoinMoin 1.5.2, or should I > use the 1.3.5 packages? MoinMoin ships the langauge packages on the page SystemPagesSetup where you can install them if you are a superuser. Kind regards, Alexander From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Sun Mar 19 15:41:01 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Sun Mar 19 15:41:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: getting xml-rpc to work References: <20060318125047.GL12535@underhill.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <1dutgng6b7714.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:50:47 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > I've never actually been able to get xml-rpc to work on my own moin > instances, which has been quite frustrating. I'm trying to figure out if > there is a config option, or package that I am missing. Are you using CGI? There is a known bug. Thomas Waldmann claims that it is fixed already, though. Kind regards, Alexander From gia at webde.de Sun Mar 19 23:27:06 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Sun Mar 19 23:27:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to create InterWiki name? In-Reply-To: <1142731811.29041.10.camel@biafra> References: <1142731811.29041.10.camel@biafra> Message-ID: <441E5910.2010202@webde.de> Guilherme (semente) wrote: > > How to create InterWiki name? Search for the file named "intermap.txt" in your installation and add your mapping (InterWiki name -> URL) there. Regards, Gisbert Amm From hugobendelin at hotmail.com Mon Mar 20 04:23:01 2006 From: hugobendelin at hotmail.com (lala lalala) Date: Mon Mar 20 04:23:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis Message-ID: Hi! We are two students who just started working on a thesis about Wikiengines. We have a little problem with exactly what to write about. We have a few vague ideas, like comparing Engines, mabye the usability from the normal wiki users standpoint, or building a comparison framework. Mabye we could compare markup languages to find the one that a normal user finds simplest or the one that visualize formating best. Any input are greatly apreciated. Ps. If this is the completely wrong forum, Mabye you could point me in the right direction _________________________________________________________________ Nyhet! MSN Messenger i Mobiltelefonen! http://mobile.msn.com/ From semente at gmail.com Mon Mar 20 06:03:02 2006 From: semente at gmail.com (Guilherme M. Gondim (semente)) Date: Mon Mar 20 06:03:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to create InterWiki name? In-Reply-To: <441E5910.2010202@webde.de> References: <1142731811.29041.10.camel@biafra> <441E5910.2010202@webde.de> Message-ID: On 3/20/06, Gisbert Amm wrote: > Search for the file named "intermap.txt" in your installation and add > your mapping (InterWiki name -> URL) there. Thanks! :-) -- Guilherme Mesquita Gondim (semente) From tw at waldmann-edv.de Mon Mar 20 06:30:01 2006 From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon Mar 20 06:30:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441EBC2B.1030609@waldmann-edv.de> > Hi! We are two students who just started working on a thesis about > Wikiengines. We have a little problem with exactly what to write about. Yes, many people writing a thesis have that problem. > We have a few vague ideas, like comparing Engines, mabye the usability > from the normal wiki users standpoint, or building a comparison > framework. See wikimatrix.org. > Mabye we could compare markup languages to find the one that > a normal user finds simplest or the one that visualize formating best. Well, isn't that defined by the exact TOPIC of your thesis? Or are you just searching for the right TOPIC because it is not fixed yet? > Any input are greatly apreciated. Well, markup is maybe interesting because there is no common standard yet and each wiki engine is a bit different in markup. There have been tries to define some "standard markup", but there is nothing really going on yet. So if you thesis should invent NEW stuff, maybe invent a new great markup that is easy, nice and makes everyone happy. If you are just out to review existing stuff, a well thought out "existing markup overview/comparison" that points out the strengths and weaknesses of some markup type would be also nice. Be aware that you should be a long-term wiki user to successfully work on that markup topic. There are many markup styles and ideas out there, but not all of them are good ideas. But that might not be obvious at once, but only if you did it wrong yourself first. Sometimes less can be more. Maybe interwiki stuff is also interesting - how can different wikis work together somehow. Sharing / linking pages, users, maybe sharing authentication? You can also read through http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ - there are lots of ideas what could be done or improved, maybe this gives you some hints. From greg at thewhittiers.com Mon Mar 20 06:39:08 2006 From: greg at thewhittiers.com (greg whittier) Date: Mon Mar 20 06:39:08 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis In-Reply-To: <441EBC2B.1030609@waldmann-edv.de> References: <441EBC2B.1030609@waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: > Be aware that you should be a long-term wiki user to successfully work > on that markup topic. There are many markup styles and ideas out there, > but not all of them are good ideas. But that might not be obvious at > once, but only if you did it wrong yourself first. Sometimes less can be > more. This is very good advice. Evaluating any attribute of a wiki engine must be done in the context of the wiki process. Write. Post. Read. Edit. "In the doing is found the true meaning of the wiki nature." -- http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiNature Good luck, Greg From eamon at nerbonne.org Mon Mar 20 06:46:07 2006 From: eamon at nerbonne.org (Eamon Nerbonne) Date: Mon Mar 20 06:46:07 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis In-Reply-To: References: <441EBC2B.1030609@waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: <16b7b9ec0603200645h548d15a3td63ea6df6582be1f@mail.gmail.com> What about completely removing the explicit markup step, and simply using browser WYSIWYG HTML support instead? With some XSLT filters, you can easily reduce the html to a safe subset should a malicious user attempt to submit nastiness... it also seems to me this would result in a very flexible format that leverages XSLT instead of custom parsers (far simpler, and safer / more portable) and can do some real funky things like generating pdf via xsl:fo+fop for instance... --Eamon Nerbonne On 3/20/06, greg whittier wrote: > > > Be aware that you should be a long-term wiki user to successfully work > > on that markup topic. There are many markup styles and ideas out there, > > but not all of them are good ideas. But that might not be obvious at > > once, but only if you did it wrong yourself first. Sometimes less can be > > more. > > This is very good advice. Evaluating any attribute of a wiki engine > must be done in the context of the wiki process. Write. Post. 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Regards, Gisbert Amm From sean at dague.net Mon Mar 20 15:41:02 2006 From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague) Date: Mon Mar 20 15:41:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: getting xml-rpc to work In-Reply-To: <1dutgng6b7714.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> References: <20060318125047.GL12535@underhill.no-ip.org> <1dutgng6b7714.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> Message-ID: <20060320233953.GR12535@underhill.no-ip.org> On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:17:42AM +0100, Alexander Schremmer wrote: > On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:50:47 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > > > I've never actually been able to get xml-rpc to work on my own moin > > instances, which has been quite frustrating. I'm trying to figure out if > > there is a config option, or package that I am missing. > > Are you using CGI? There is a known bug. Thomas Waldmann claims that it is > fixed already, though. I'm using FastCGI. Any thoughts, ideas on the fix, or where the bug really is? I'm using moin 1.5.2, with python 2.4. -Sean -- __________________________________________________________________ Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This sounds pretty much like http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/XmlRpcBroken Kind regards, Alexander From sean at dague.net Tue Mar 21 05:10:05 2006 From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague) Date: Tue Mar 21 05:10:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: getting xml-rpc to work In-Reply-To: References: <20060318125047.GL12535@underhill.no-ip.org> <1dutgng6b7714.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> <20060320233953.GR12535@underhill.no-ip.org> Message-ID: <20060321130929.GU12535@underhill.no-ip.org> On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 07:29:08AM +0100, Alexander Schremmer wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:39:53 -0500, Sean Dague wrote: > > > I'm using FastCGI. Any thoughts, ideas on the fix, or where the bug really > > is? I'm using moin 1.5.2, with python 2.4. > > This sounds pretty much like > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/XmlRpcBroken That bug is really confusing, as it seems to say it is fixed, but I have the line of code mentioned in my server, and it is still broken. :( It would be really nice to have this working, given the feature is advertised all over the place on the moin site. -Sean -- __________________________________________________________________ Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robert at cantab.net Tue Mar 21 11:17:11 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Tue Mar 21 11:17:11 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis In-Reply-To: <16b7b9ec0603200645h548d15a3td63ea6df6582be1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <441EBC2B.1030609@waldmann-edv.de> <16b7b9ec0603200645h548d15a3td63ea6df6582be1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44205100.3020401@cantab.net> At the risk of being accused of management speak, I think an interesting - and perhaps accessible even if you haven't been using wikis compulsively for years - thesis topic might be concerned with contextualising wikis (i.e. how people learn to use them, what original uses are they being put to, what other technologies they use) as well as speculating on the future of wikis in relation to other technologies. Eamon Nerbonne wrote: > What about completely removing the explicit markup step, and simply > using browser WYSIWYG HTML support instead? With some XSLT filters, > you can easily reduce the html to a safe subset should a malicious > user attempt to submit nastiness... it also seems to me this would > result in a very flexible format that leverages XSLT instead of custom > parsers > (far simpler, and safer / more portable) and can do some real funky > things like generating pdf via xsl:fo+fop for instance... > > --Eamon Nerbonne > On 3/20/06, * greg whittier* > wrote: > > > Be aware that you should be a long-term wiki user to > successfully work > > on that markup topic. There are many markup styles and ideas out > there, > > but not all of them are good ideas. But that might not be > obvious at > > once, but only if you did it wrong yourself first. Sometimes > less can be > > more. > This is what I was thinking: it's probably a little presumptuous to tell the wiki developers whether their markup sucks or doesn't suck, particularly since it obviously doesn't suck for the devs' own purposes otherwise they would have changed it. It might be interesting to take a look at the bleeding edge features being added to some of the wiki engines, and try estimate which ones will be useful and which will fade away. You might even want to give some thought as to what the "next big thing" will be; if you figure it out, your thesis might even turn into a business enterprise! But the question I have to ask about this is: Why haven't you started a wiki page yet and told us where it is?!? If you want some more ideas about "wiki futures" or the social aspects of wiki use, email me off-list or start a wiki page - there are some things I'd like to look into (i.e. tell someone else to look into...). Robert. > > This is very good advice. Evaluating any attribute of a wiki engine > must be done in the context of the wiki > process. Write. Post. Read. > Edit. > > "In the doing is found the true meaning of the wiki nature." > -- http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiNature > > Good luck, > Greg > From keith.c.schwols at intel.com Tue Mar 21 12:37:05 2006 From: keith.c.schwols at intel.com (Schwols, Keith C) Date: Tue Mar 21 12:37:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis Message-ID: <6FAB474893963D4E876FE660DC96C071A16537@azsmsx401.amr.corp.intel.com> Well, since many people are chiming in ;-). I think a thesis on the differences in the usage model of wikis based on the User Base would be interesting. We've seen a little bit of the discussion on the differences between a "Corporate" Wiki vs "Public Wiki" in this mailing list. Breaking out a bit more, there is a difference how wiki is used and perceived based on the User base. Public wikis differ when they support a wiki theme that is very computer science related (python wiki, moinmaster, etc) vs a more general public wiki theme (e.g. wikicities, wiki how to, travel wikis and so on). Wiki based on a theme (travel or python) where many different types of people with a common hobby compare with Wikis based on a community (teachers wiki, wikicities, ChildFreeWiki) where the users are mostly of similar background and experience. Some of the differences, I would classify and only supporting part of the tenets that Ward Cunningham laid out in the wiki definition: Anonymous vs Signed Changes, Total Access vs AccessControl, designated admins vs open administration, structured vs unstructured page layout, change approval (or discussion) vs direct change, ... This can tie into the Wiki as a CRM usage (publishers vs readers). Anyway a few thoughts, ]-----Original Message----- >From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user- >admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Robert Schumann >Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:16 PM >Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis > >At the risk of being accused of management speak, I think an interesting >- and perhaps accessible even if you haven't been using wikis >compulsively for years - thesis topic might be concerned with >contextualising wikis (i.e. how people learn to use them, what original >uses are they being put to, what other technologies they use) as well as >speculating on the future of wikis in relation to other technologies. > >Eamon Nerbonne wrote: > >> What about completely removing the explicit markup step, and simply >> using browser WYSIWYG HTML support instead? With some XSLT filters, >> you can easily reduce the html to a safe subset should a malicious >> user attempt to submit nastiness... it also seems to me this would >> result in a very flexible format that leverages XSLT instead of custom >> parsers >> (far simpler, and safer / more portable) and can do some real funky >> things like generating pdf via xsl:fo+fop for instance... >> >> --Eamon Nerbonne >> On 3/20/06, * greg whittier* > > wrote: >> >> > Be aware that you should be a long-term wiki user to >> successfully work >> > on that markup topic. There are many markup styles and ideas out >> there, >> > but not all of them are good ideas. But that might not be >> obvious at >> > once, but only if you did it wrong yourself first. Sometimes >> less can be >> > more. >> > >This is what I was thinking: it's probably a little presumptuous to tell >the wiki developers whether their markup sucks or doesn't suck, >particularly since it obviously doesn't suck for the devs' own purposes >otherwise they would have changed it. > >It might be interesting to take a look at the bleeding edge features >being added to some of the wiki engines, and try estimate which ones >will be useful and which will fade away. You might even want to give >some thought as to what the "next big thing" will be; if you figure it >out, your thesis might even turn into a business enterprise! > >But the question I have to ask about this is: Why haven't you started a >wiki page yet and told us where it is?!? > >If you want some more ideas about "wiki futures" or the social aspects >of wiki use, email me off-list or start a wiki page - there are some >things I'd like to look into (i.e. tell someone else to look into...). > >Robert. > >> >> This is very good advice. Evaluating any attribute of a wiki engine >> must be done in the context of the wiki >> process. Write. Post. Read. >> Edit. >> >> "In the doing is found the true meaning of the wiki nature." >> -- http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiNature >> >> Good luck, >> Greg >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language >that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live >webcast >and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=12164 2 >_______________________________________________ >Moin-user mailing list >Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 21 16:30:01 2006 From: kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net (Kenneth McDonald) Date: Tue Mar 21 16:30:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Why is my path to moin.cgi also being taken as a request for a new page? Message-ID: <44209A54.4050005@sbcglobal.net> Thanks in large part to the help I've obtained from this group, my Moin install is almost working. I seem to be having one final problem. My moin cgi script (in my case named "home.cgi") is within cgi-bin, which is contained in Apache's DocumentRoot. A request such as: http://my.ip.number/cgi-bin/home.cgi does correctly bring up Moin. However, it does it in such a manner that Moin believes I'm trying to access a page called "cgi-bin/home.cgi", rather than the default given in the wikiconfig.py file. Can anyone shed some light on what might be going on? Thanks, Ken From virtualizeeverything at gmail.com Wed Mar 22 01:28:04 2006 From: virtualizeeverything at gmail.com (=?GB2312?B?uti+og==?=) Date: Wed Mar 22 01:28:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] [Ask for Help] problem to setup moinmoin in win32 (fastcgi + external server + apache) Message-ID: Hi guys, I tried to setup moinmoin with fastcgi (as external server) in Windows XP. The instructions (to setup moinmoin + fastcgi external server) I followed is in http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTips/InstallingFastMoinOnWin32 by SeungikLee . The programs and utilities what I used are: Windows XP Pro (SP2) Python 2.4.2 Apache 2.0.55 MoinMoin 1.5.2 srvany.exe, instsrv.exe from Windows Resource Among them, the only difference is the moinmoin's version, what SeungikLee used is 1.3.5 and mine is 1.5.2 . When I started the wikiservice from svc applet control panel, everything seems OK. The output of "netstat -a" showed the state of port whose wiki_port_num set in moin.fcg && httpd.conf is "LISTEN". But when I tried to accss http://hostname/mywiki or http://hostname:wiki_port_num from browser, nothing showed up but reported "server not available or DNS error". I even use telnet tool to connect to the port which external server is listening, and it doesn't refuse this request ... Anybody can do me a favor to help me fix it ? 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Same if I try http://wiki.example.com/htdocs/modern, I just end up being shown a wiki page called htdocs/modern/index.html. Does anyone know how to prevent Apache from appending index.html to everything? My apache config is shown below (including some of my attempts to remove the DirectoryIndex). Thanks for your help, Robert. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ServerName wiki.example.com # Rewrite urls RewriteEngine On RewriteLogLevel 2 DocumentRoot /srv/example/public_html # If the request is not for a valid directory... RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}%{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d # ...and it's not for a file... RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}%{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f # ...then pass the path from the URL to moin RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /srv/moinfiles/server/moinmodpy.py/$1 [last] # Of course, if the user just typed http://example.com/, # that needs to work too! RewriteRule ^$ /srv/moinfiles/server/moinmodpy.py [last] AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Allow from all AddHandler python-program .py PythonPath "['/srv/moinfiles', '/srv/moinfiles/server'] + sys.path PythonHandler moinmodpy PythonDebug On # Options FollowSymLinks -Indexes Options None DirectoryIndex "" AllowOverride None ---------------------------------------------------------- From robert at cantab.net Thu Mar 23 02:26:06 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Thu Mar 23 02:26:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] mod_rewrite and mod_python In-Reply-To: <16b7b9ec0603230210h4259c0acrac2515b0226af0ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <4422071F.4000704@cantab.net> <16b7b9ec0603230210h4259c0acrac2515b0226af0ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44227779.5050102@cantab.net> Eamon Nerbonne wrote: > You're saying that if it is a valid directory, if should NOT use the > rewrite rule eh? In that case, apache will look up the default page - > generally index.html, though that's surely configureable too... You > want to check only for valid files maybe? D'oh! You're quite right. I had been using those rewrite rules in a different context and had not even thought about the directory checking bit.... Thanks Eamon! Robert. > > --Eamon > > On 3/23/06, *Robert Schumann* > wrote: > > I've been stuggling with a small but annoying problem for a few hours. > > I've set up Moin 1.5.2 on Apache 2.0.54 (Ubuntu) using mod_python and > mod_rewrite. My own particular flavour of RewriteRule is slightly > different than that advertised on MoinMoin wiki: it checks to see if a > requested file really exists in the filesystem, and if it doesn't then > it passes the request to Moin. > > It works fine, except for directories. If someone types in > http://wiki.example.com/ then I would obviously like them to get > to the > FrontPage; currently, they are sent to a wiki page entitled > index.html. > Same if I try http://wiki.example.com/htdocs/modern, I just end up > being > shown a wiki page called htdocs/modern/index.html. > > Does anyone know how to prevent Apache from appending index.html to > everything? My apache config is shown below (including some of my > attempts to remove the DirectoryIndex). > > Thanks for your help, > > Robert. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ServerName wiki.example.com > > # Rewrite urls > RewriteEngine On > RewriteLogLevel 2 > > DocumentRoot /srv/example/public_html > # If the request is not for a valid directory... > RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}%{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d > # ...and it's not for a file... > RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}%{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f > # ...then pass the path from the URL to moin > RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /srv/moinfiles/server/moinmodpy.py/$1 > [last] > # Of course, if the user just typed http://example.com/, > # that needs to work too! > RewriteRule ^$ /srv/moinfiles/server/moinmodpy.py [last] > > > AllowOverride None > Options None > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > AddHandler python-program .py > PythonPath "['/srv/moinfiles', > '/srv/moinfiles/server'] > + sys.path > PythonHandler moinmodpy > PythonDebug On > > > > # Options FollowSymLinks -Indexes > Options None > DirectoryIndex "" > AllowOverride None > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the > live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding > territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Thu Mar 23 07:34:09 2006 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Thu Mar 23 07:34:09 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Valid values for User_*_remove Message-ID: <4459f0d30603230733w742e7db9x3064c298e432aab0@mail.gmail.com> Hello everybody. In HelpOnConfiguration there are a few user_[checkbox|form]_remove options. But except for the example and one that I've guessed (css_url), I can't find were are the valid options. Some help about this? (after which I will put it in MoinMaster). Thanks a lot... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. From robert at cantab.net Thu Mar 23 07:42:02 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Thu Mar 23 07:42:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Valid values for User_*_remove In-Reply-To: <4459f0d30603230733w742e7db9x3064c298e432aab0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4459f0d30603230733w742e7db9x3064c298e432aab0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1143128500.18634.50.camel@xoliswa> On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 12:33 -0300, Eduardo Mercovich wrote: > Hello everybody. > > In HelpOnConfiguration there are a few user_[checkbox|form]_remove > options. But except for the example and one that I've guessed > (css_url), I can't find were are the valid options. By grepping the code, I found the answer in file multiconfig.py - take a look for yourself, there's a lot of interesting stuff there (like there's also the option to disable rather than remove). The variables user_[checkbox|form]_remove are lists, and in multiconfig they are empty but there are commented-out versions that show explicitly all the things that can be removed: user_checkbox_remove = ['edit_on_doubleclick', 'show_nonexist_qm', 'show_toolbar', 'show_topbottom', 'show_fancy_diff', 'wikiname_add_spaces', 'remember_me', 'disabled',] user_form_remove = ['password', 'password2', 'css_url', 'logout', 'create', 'account_sendmail',] Delete whatever you don't want to remove. Robert. > > Some help about this? (after which I will put it in MoinMaster). > > Thanks a lot... > > -- > Eduardo Mercovich > Buenos Aires - Argentina. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From alan.ezust at gmail.com Thu Mar 23 09:38:02 2006 From: alan.ezust at gmail.com (Alan Ezust) Date: Thu Mar 23 09:38:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] configure smarthost to use authentication? Message-ID: I need to configure a moin to use authentication as it sends out its e-mail. What's the easiest way to get the moin to use authentication? From hugobendelin at hotmail.com Thu Mar 23 16:06:00 2006 From: hugobendelin at hotmail.com (lala lalala) Date: Thu Mar 23 16:06:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] A Wiki Thesis In-Reply-To: <16b7b9ec0603200641s760b992ds3f6494cc5c2423a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I want to thank everyone for contributing with their answers here. Very generous of you. But we still have problems with the subject. To clarify, this it is me and my friend first thesis(c-thesis in swedish, 10 weeks of work and about 30 pages). Anyway we have thougt of four things that could be interesting to write about. First it is the wikiengine comparison, right. But what is there to compare? We could do a product specification, like the wikimatrix mentioned, but that is not really interesting in this case and already done. Then what in the engines are of interest to compare and how do they work sounds more like it? But then, are the engines really all that fundamentaly different.? I Know that mabye some old ones may be. But the bigger popular ones like mediawiki, moinmoin, usemod... are there big differences i the way they work? Another thought is to in some way test their usability by the wiki-users. Then we thought of testing a wiki-site for a small company to se if it would be a good way for them to easily manage their own web site. We also thought of comparing the different technique of how to handle simulatious editing of a wiki dokument. We are most thankfull for any thoughts, comments or ideas that could help ous finding a good wiki related subject. We now have a wikiapp up and running, its on http://moinmoin.moo.com:88, for anyone interested in sharing thougts. _________________________________________________________________ Nyhet! 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But the bigger popular ones like mediawiki, moinmoin, usemod... are there big differences i the way they work? Another thought is to in some way test their usability by the wiki-users. Then we thought of testing a wiki-site for a small company to se if it would be a good way for them to easily manage their own web site. We also thought of comparing the different technique of how to handle simulatious editing of a wiki dokument. We are most thankfull for any thoughts, comments or ideas that could help ous finding a good wiki related subject. We now have a wikiapp up and running, its on http://moinmoin.moo.com:88, for anyone interested in sharing thougts. _________________________________________________________________ Chat: Ha en fest p? Habbo Hotel http://habbohotel.msn.se/habbo/sv/channelizer Checka in h?r! From greg at thewhittiers.com Fri Mar 24 15:47:00 2006 From: greg at thewhittiers.com (greg whittier) Date: Fri Mar 24 15:47:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] NoCamelCase to ["no camel case"] conversion tools Message-ID: Hi all, I'm considering trying to alter the content of my moinmoin wiki to remove camel case (data only, not underlay). Are there any migration tools that exist to convert my existing content so that NoCamelCase becomes ["no camel case"] and the links don't break? If they don't exist and I need to write them, is it as "simple" as doing a search and replace on the text and changing the directory names or is there some other "database" I need to change to keep things in sync and happy. Thanks, Greg From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Fri Mar 24 17:54:02 2006 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Fri Mar 24 17:54:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Valid values for User_*_remove In-Reply-To: <442314B0.1000904@cantab.net> References: <4459f0d30603230733w742e7db9x3064c298e432aab0@mail.gmail.com> <1143128500.18634.50.camel@xoliswa> <4459f0d30603230919l7031b63br6294bba9083012d0@mail.gmail.com> <442314B0.1000904@cantab.net> Message-ID: <4459f0d30603241753p863c5f8o7f144fda1e97fa9d@mail.gmail.com> Hello all. [...] > > HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences > I haven't ever edited anything in MoinMaster, so I'm not the right > person to ask! But I believe that would be the right place to make such > changes, after you've read the relevant guidelines for submitting to > MoinMaster. If after a few days everything seems OK, I will move this page to MoinMaster. Regards,,, -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Fri Mar 24 17:59:02 2006 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Fri Mar 24 17:59:02 2006 Subject: Fwd: [Moin-user] Valid values for User_*_remove In-Reply-To: <4459f0d30603230919l7031b63br6294bba9083012d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4459f0d30603230733w742e7db9x3064c298e432aab0@mail.gmail.com> <1143128500.18634.50.camel@xoliswa> <4459f0d30603230919l7031b63br6294bba9083012d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4459f0d30603241751m28cf5deag52476430c17e9002@mail.gmail.com> Hello Robert! > > In HelpOnConfiguration there are a few user_[checkbox|form]_remove > > options. But except for the example and one that I've guessed > > (css_url), I can't find were are the valid options. > > By grepping the code, I found the answer in file multiconfig.py [...] Thanks for your help. I've put this info in HelpOnConfiguration/UserPreferences Can someone with permissions link this new page from http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration and http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnUserPreferences (or should I do that in MoinMaster)? Thanks... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Mar 27 02:44:01 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon Mar 27 02:44:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] NoCamelCase to ["no camel case"] conversion tools In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4427C1A7.6010509@gmx.de> > I'm considering trying to alter the content of my moinmoin wiki to > remove camel case (data only, not underlay). The underlay help and system pages might contain links that need camelcase to work. > Are there any migration > tools that exist to convert my existing content so that NoCamelCase > becomes ["no camel case"] and the links don't break? Not AFAIK. > If they don't exist and I need to write them, Then please write some nice re-usable Python code. :) > is it as "simple" as doing a search > and replace on the text and changing the directory names or is there > some other "database" I need to change to keep things in sync and > happy. There are also edit-log files - one global data/edit-log and one local per page data/pages/PageName/edit-log. They contain the page name, too. data/event-log also contains page names, but as this is only used for statistics, you don't need to care. From greg at thewhittiers.com Mon Mar 27 04:08:07 2006 From: greg at thewhittiers.com (greg whittier) Date: Mon Mar 27 04:08:07 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] NoCamelCase to ["no camel case"] conversion tools In-Reply-To: <4427C1A7.6010509@gmx.de> References: <4427C1A7.6010509@gmx.de> Message-ID: > Then please write some nice re-usable Python code. :) Thanks for the tips Thomas. It will definitely be python. I'll aim for nice and re-usable :0 Greg From slzatz at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 07:52:01 2006 From: slzatz at gmail.com (Steve Zatz) Date: Mon Mar 27 07:52:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Updates slow on internal network Message-ID: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> I realize this may be a networking question and not a MoinMoin question but here goes. The wiki is running on my home network behind Apache using the latest version of MoinMoin 1.5.2 running on Ubuntu Linux (Breezy). My connection to the Internet is a cable modem and I am forwarding requests on port 8000 to the box on my network running the wiki. (I am doing this because the cable operator blocks port 80.) When I edit a page using a computer on my home network, it takes about 5+ seconds to update. When I do it from outside the network, it is on the order of a second. Since I am not a Linux expert, any thoughts as to how to diagnose the problem would be helpful. From fdrake at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 08:04:13 2006 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Mon Mar 27 08:04:13 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Updates slow on internal network In-Reply-To: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80603270803o45d48cf2vaf78d48894160567@mail.gmail.com> On 3/27/06, Steve Zatz wrote: > I realize this may be a networking question and not a MoinMoin > question but here goes. Here's a question; not sure how helpful it is. When editing from the LAN, are you addressing the server using an IP address accessible from the outside, or are you using the address from inside the LAN (192.168....)? I've noticed such effects generally when using a hostname that resolves to an external address; appearantly some weird timing issues are introduced by adding extra networking layers between the source and host, and involving the same router in both directions. Not being a networking guru, I don't know if this is a natural effect of that sort of looping around to get back to the LAN, but I've seen it happen, and not just with HTTP connections. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Don't let schooling interfere with your education." -- Mark Twain From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Mar 27 08:53:03 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon Mar 27 08:53:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Updates slow on internal network In-Reply-To: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4428184E.4060507@gmx.de> > When I edit a page using a computer on my home network, it takes about > 5+ seconds to update. With "update" you mean the time the SAVE takes? > When I do it from outside the network, it is on > the order of a second. Since I am not a Linux expert, any thoughts as > to how to diagnose the problem would be helpful. Check whether DNS reverse lookups work on your LAN. Moin does this for logging and when it doesn't work, it needs some time to timeout. From fdrake at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 08:58:02 2006 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Mon Mar 27 08:58:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Updates slow on internal network In-Reply-To: <4428184E.4060507@gmx.de> References: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> <4428184E.4060507@gmx.de> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80603270857j368bc333hcbe8efc131778cb5@mail.gmail.com> On 3/27/06, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > Check whether DNS reverse lookups work on your LAN. Moin does this for > logging and when it doesn't work, it needs some time to timeout. This makes sense. Is there a way to turn this off, so the logs show only IP addresses? -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Don't let schooling interfere with your education." -- Mark Twain From slzatz at gmail.com Mon Mar 27 09:26:22 2006 From: slzatz at gmail.com (Steve Zatz) Date: Mon Mar 27 09:26:22 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Updates slow on internal network In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80603270857j368bc333hcbe8efc131778cb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> <4428184E.4060507@gmx.de> <9cee7ab80603270857j368bc333hcbe8efc131778cb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b21d8370603270925m5809ebf5r927754a6e0093b5d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the quick responses. > With "update" you mean the time the SAVE takes? Yes, the time between hitting the save button and having the edited page load. > are you using the address from inside the LAN (192.168....)? Should have mentioned this. I thought if I used the LAN (192..) address the problem would go away but it didn't. The longer time it takes to Save from the internal LAN is unaffected by whether I use the internal or external address. > Check whether DNS reverse lookups work on your LAN. Moin does this for > logging and when it doesn't work, it needs some time to timeout. As per Fred's question, is there a way to shut off trying to do reverse DNS lookups? Thanks again. On 3/27/06, Fred Drake wrote: > On 3/27/06, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > Check whether DNS reverse lookups work on your LAN. Moin does this for > > logging and when it doesn't work, it needs some time to timeout. > > This makes sense. Is there a way to turn this off, so the logs show > only IP addresses? > > > -Fred > > -- > Fred L. Drake, Jr. > "Don't let schooling interfere with your education." -- Mark Twain > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast > and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmdlnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From mgraz at mnsgraz.plus.com Mon Mar 27 12:21:13 2006 From: mgraz at mnsgraz.plus.com (Michael Graz) Date: Mon Mar 27 12:21:13 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Output during macro processing? Message-ID: <000601c651db$ea2f8bb0$0201a8c0@red> Given an embedded macro like [[LongRunningMacro()]], is there a way to display output while the macro is running? If a macro takes a while to run, it would be nice to be able to generate occasional status messages that get output right away. The current model for macro execution is for the macro to run to completion and then return its output at the end which then gets displayed. That is, the results of the macro are displayed only once the macro is finished. It would be nice to have a way to make a call from within the macro to generate output during the macro processing in addition to or an alternate to returning text only at the end. Please advise. Thanks! -Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew-lists at black1.org.uk Tue Mar 28 11:58:23 2006 From: andrew-lists at black1.org.uk (Andrew Black - lists) Date: Tue Mar 28 11:58:23 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Where are macro.formatter methods defined Message-ID: <44296E0A.1080909@black1.org.uk> Hope this isn't too silly a question - Where are routines such as macro.formatter.image defined. Is there one for creating an anchor Andrew From mohacsi at niif.hu Wed Mar 29 01:53:03 2006 From: mohacsi at niif.hu (Mohacsi Janos) Date: Wed Mar 29 01:53:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] migrating a moin-moin page to another moinmoin installation Message-ID: <20060329114918.M23665@mignon.ki.iif.hu> Hi, What is the best method to migrate a moin-moin page to another moin-moin installation? I would like to keep the history of the page, and reference to a changing users. Thank your for your help. Regards, Janos Mohacsi Network Engineer, Research Associate NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY Key 00F9AF98: 8645 1312 D249 471B DBAE 21A2 9F52 0D1F 00F9 AF98 From tw-public at gmx.de Wed Mar 29 03:07:03 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed Mar 29 03:07:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Where are macro.formatter methods defined In-Reply-To: <44296E0A.1080909@black1.org.uk> References: <44296E0A.1080909@black1.org.uk> Message-ID: <442A6A2C.5090604@gmx.de> > Where are routines such as macro.formatter.image defined. > Is there one for creating an anchor See MoinMoin/formatter/ - if html is output, then text_html.py is used. From tw-public at gmx.de Wed Mar 29 03:10:08 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed Mar 29 03:10:08 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] migrating a moin-moin page to another moinmoin installation In-Reply-To: <20060329114918.M23665@mignon.ki.iif.hu> References: <20060329114918.M23665@mignon.ki.iif.hu> Message-ID: <442A6AF8.6060904@gmx.de> > What is the best method to migrate a moin-moin page to another > moin-moin installation? I would like to keep the history of the page, > and reference to a changing users. If both wikis would use the same user IDs (shared data/user/ directory), it would be enough to copy data/pages/ThatPage directory to the other wiki. If this is not the case and the IDs for the same user either differ or some users are missing, you have to fix the data/pages/ThatPage/edit-log entries so that the ID there points to an existing and correct user. From gia at webde.de Wed Mar 29 06:46:21 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Wed Mar 29 06:46:21 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to merge userdata when upgrading from 1.3 to 1.5 In-Reply-To: <441ECFE6.30501@webde.de> References: <441ECFE6.30501@webde.de> Message-ID: <442A9D92.4030609@webde.de> I've searched the Moin website a bit, but did not find any particular information on merging userbases there. Is it all written down in the CHANGES file? Has anyone got some advice for me? -Gisbert Gisbert Amm wrote: > We are currently runnung several instances of release 1.3.4 of MoinMoin > and are about to upgrade to 1.5.2. ATM, each Moin has it's own userbase. > We want to merge them into one with the 1.5.2 release, since it supports > the use of one userdatabase for several Wiki instances. How can we > achieve that with as less pain as possible? How shall we handle > duplicate user profiles (of users that are currently subscribed to > several Wikis)? Is there a migration guide or a howto somewhere? > > Any hints are highly appreciated. From mehdi.public at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 06:49:02 2006 From: mehdi.public at gmail.com (Mehdi Hassanpour) Date: Wed Mar 29 06:49:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] remove moin.cgi from URL Message-ID: <1abd6b930603290648n5628f787p916729bd0bae3f8e@mail.gmail.com> **Hi There, I've just joined the list and don't know if I can ask these questions here or not, so let me know if I'm asking in the wrong place... I couldn't find any help removing cgi-bin & moin.cgi from URL ( in MoinMoin 1.5.2 ) Can you please tell me what should I do ? and how should I remove chi-bin and moin.cgi from URL or hide them ? Thanks -- ******************************************************** Yours Sincerely, Mehdi Hassanpour ---------------------------------------------------------------------- /* Of one Essence is the human race, Thusly has Creation put the Base; One Limb impacted is sufficient, For all Others to feel the Mace. ~Saadi (persian poet) -1258 */ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- http://ImPersian.com | http://Hezardastan.org ******************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gia at webde.de Wed Mar 29 06:58:11 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Wed Mar 29 06:58:11 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] remove moin.cgi from URL In-Reply-To: <1abd6b930603290648n5628f787p916729bd0bae3f8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <1abd6b930603290648n5628f787p916729bd0bae3f8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442AA040.6000107@webde.de> What kind of webserver do you use? E.g. on Apache you need a ScriptAlias to do that. It's written down in the installation advices: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling Regards, Gisbert Amm Mehdi Hassanpour wrote: > > I couldn't find any help removing cgi-bin & moin.cgi from URL ( in > MoinMoin 1.5.2 ) > > Can you please tell me what should I do ? and how should I remove > chi-bin and moin.cgi from URL or hide them ? From el.baby at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 08:42:07 2006 From: el.baby at gmail.com (Mariano Absatz) Date: Wed Mar 29 08:42:07 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: remove moin.cgi from URL Message-ID: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> Gisbert Amm escribi? el 29/03/06 11:57: > What kind of webserver do you use? E.g. on Apache you need a ScriptAlias > to do that. It's written down in the installation advices: > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling > > Regards, > Gisbert Amm > > Mehdi Hassanpour wrote: > > > > I couldn't find any help removing cgi-bin & moin.cgi from URL ( in > > MoinMoin 1.5.2 ) > > > > Can you please tell me what should I do ? and how should I remove > > chi-bin and moin.cgi from URL or hide them ? > Well... I have a similar problem. I have moin 1.5.2 running on an Apache virtual server that is chrooted and run via "suexec" (it's an ensim server running on fedora core 1: http://www.ensim.com/products/pro/linux/index.html) I compiled and installed Python 2.4.2 within the chrooted virtual host, so I'm fine with this. Now, I installed following the directions in http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnLinuxFtp I have ssh access to the virtual server, but I can't edit httpd.conf... I can only configure the webserver via .htaccess. I have everything up and running. moin.cgi is in /var/www/cgi-bin which is the only directory where I get to execute code. Now I want to "hide" the "/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" string from the URL. I do as instructed in http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/ApacheVoodoo (except for the "RewriteLogLevel 0" which is invalid inside a .htaccess file, anyway, that's the default value for the directive). Now it "kinda" works... that is, http://www.example.com/mywiki gets executed correctly and shows the exact same page as if I use http://www.example.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi. However, all the links within the MainPage point to the http://www.example.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PageName URLs... Googling a little I found http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/SourceForge#head-2ab82643806f146559c78ed6dcfdd100800dd37f that is handtailored for a SourceForge site, but I'm taking the ideas... I edited moin.cgi and replaced: request = RequestCGI() with: request = RequestCGI(properties={'script_name':'/mywiki'}) It just seems to work... http://www.example.com/mywiki gets the page I want and links inside that page point to http://www.example.com/mywiki/PageName but clicking on any of them gets me a 500 Internal Server Error. My Apache error_log gets me the clasical: > Premature end of script headers: moin.cgi, referer: > http://www.example.com/mywiki I got the server administrator to hand me the apache logs from the "mother server" (not my virtual server) and they show the following in suexec.log: > [2006-03-29 13:06:33]: error: target uid/gid (661/662) mismatch with > directory (0/0) or program (661/662) 661/662 is my userid/gid... 0/0 is obviously the appliance's root... but I don't know to which directory it refers to... Within my virtual server /var/www/html, /var/www/cgi-bin and all its subdirectories are owned by me (661/662). Any hints? 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Name: .htaccess URL: From robert at cantab.net Wed Mar 29 09:33:04 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Wed Mar 29 09:33:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: remove moin.cgi from URL In-Reply-To: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> References: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> Mariano Absatz wrote: >>Mehdi Hassanpour wrote: >> > >> > I couldn't find any help removing cgi-bin & moin.cgi from URL ( in >> > MoinMoin 1.5.2 ) >> > >> > Can you please tell me what should I do ? and how should I remove >> > chi-bin and moin.cgi from URL or hide them ? >> >> >> >Well... I have a similar problem. > >I have moin 1.5.2 running on an Apache virtual server that is chrooted >and run via "suexec" (it's an ensim server running on fedora core 1: >http://www.ensim.com/products/pro/linux/index.html) > >I compiled and installed Python 2.4.2 within the chrooted virtual host, >so I'm fine with this. > >Now, I installed following the directions in >http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnLinuxFtp > >I have ssh access to the virtual server, but I can't edit httpd.conf... >I can only configure the webserver via .htaccess. > >I have everything up and running. moin.cgi is in /var/www/cgi-bin which >is the only directory where I get to execute code. > >Now I want to "hide" the "/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" string from the URL. > >I do as instructed in >http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/ApacheVoodoo (except >for the "RewriteLogLevel 0" which is invalid inside a .htaccess file, >anyway, that's the default value for the directive). > >Now it "kinda" works... that is, http://www.example.com/mywiki gets >executed correctly and shows the exact same page as if I use >http://www.example.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi. > The solution to this problem is documented in http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RobertSchumann/ApacheOnLinuxFTPRootWiki Robert. From el.baby at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 10:12:02 2006 From: el.baby at gmail.com (Mariano Absatz) Date: Wed Mar 29 10:12:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: remove moin.cgi from URL In-Reply-To: <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> References: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> Message-ID: <3d8676e0603291010i532d4396u3cbe09b29b81ae8e@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/06, Robert Schumann wrote: > The solution to this problem is documented in > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RobertSchumann/ApacheOnLinuxFTPRootWiki Hi Robert, thanx for your prompt reply... in fact, the second example in your page is "morally equivalent" to what I had done... and I kept getting the errors... Finally, I convinced my hoster to 'chown 662.661 /var/www' which is always owned by root... and everything worked :-( Apache suexec is very nice, but *very* picky... my hoster is not very happy that I can freely move around /var/www but I promised I wouldn't... I hope nothing else breaks because of this. -- Mariano Absatz - El Baby el (dot) baby (AT) gmail (dot) com el (punto) baby (ARROBA:@) gmail (punto) com From mehdi.public at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 12:28:01 2006 From: mehdi.public at gmail.com (Mehdi Hassanpour) Date: Wed Mar 29 12:28:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: remove moin.cgi from URL In-Reply-To: <3d8676e0603291010i532d4396u3cbe09b29b81ae8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> <3d8676e0603291010i532d4396u3cbe09b29b81ae8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1abd6b930603291226k18cf4eeak59497693e2322cdd@mail.gmail.com> Thank you every body My problem solved too, the problem was becaz there were no "AllowOverride" tag in my vhost in apache conf :( Thank you Robert for complete documenting this... ;) On 3/29/06, Mariano Absatz wrote: > > On 3/29/06, Robert Schumann wrote: > > The solution to this problem is documented in > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RobertSchumann/ApacheOnLinuxFTPRootWiki > Hi Robert, > > thanx for your prompt reply... in fact, the second example in your > page is "morally equivalent" to what I had done... and I kept getting > the errors... > > Finally, I convinced my hoster to 'chown 662.661 /var/www' which is > always owned by root... and everything worked :-( > > Apache suexec is very nice, but *very* picky... my hoster is not very > happy that I can freely move around /var/www but I promised I > wouldn't... I hope nothing else breaks because of this. > > > -- > Mariano Absatz - El Baby > el (dot) baby (AT) gmail (dot) com > el (punto) baby (ARROBA:@) gmail (punto) com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. 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URL: From mehdi.public at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 13:40:05 2006 From: mehdi.public at gmail.com (Mehdi Hassanpour) Date: Wed Mar 29 13:40:05 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: remove moin.cgi from URL In-Reply-To: <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> References: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> Message-ID: <1abd6b930603291339h4a8b7412k23035fdcf5663d49@mail.gmail.com> Robert, In Moin 1.5.2 This part of your Guide : ----- There is a wonderfully simple workaround to this: edit moin.cgi so that it contains, somewhere near the top (perhaps just below import sys). the following: 1 import os 2 os.environ['SCRIPT_NAME'] = '/terry' ----- returned me Internal Server Error, So I just skipped that and did this instead in moin.cgi : Replaced -- request = RequestCGI() -- With -- request = RequestCGI(properties={'script_name':'/terry'}) -- Just one question remains: Do I need to add " cookie_path = "/" " in wikiconfig.py or the bug is fixed in Moin 1.5.2 ? On 3/29/06, Robert Schumann wrote: > > Mariano Absatz wrote: > > >>Mehdi Hassanpour wrote: > >> > > >> > I couldn't find any help removing cgi-bin & moin.cgi from URL ( in > >> > MoinMoin 1.5.2 ) > >> > > >> > Can you please tell me what should I do ? and how should I remove > >> > chi-bin and moin.cgi from URL or hide them ? > >> > >> > >> > >Well... I have a similar problem. > > > >I have moin 1.5.2 running on an Apache virtual server that is chrooted > >and run via "suexec" (it's an ensim server running on fedora core 1: > >http://www.ensim.com/products/pro/linux/index.html) > > > >I compiled and installed Python 2.4.2 within the chrooted virtual host, > >so I'm fine with this. > > > >Now, I installed following the directions in > >http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnLinuxFtp > > > >I have ssh access to the virtual server, but I can't edit httpd.conf... > >I can only configure the webserver via .htaccess. > > > >I have everything up and running. moin.cgi is in /var/www/cgi-bin which > >is the only directory where I get to execute code. > > > >Now I want to "hide" the "/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" string from the URL. > > > >I do as instructed in > >http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/ApacheVoodoo (except > >for the "RewriteLogLevel 0" which is invalid inside a .htaccess file, > >anyway, that's the default value for the directive). > > > >Now it "kinda" works... that is, http://www.example.com/mywiki gets > >executed correctly and shows the exact same page as if I use > >http://www.example.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi. > > > The solution to this problem is documented in > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RobertSchumann/ApacheOnLinuxFTPRootWiki > > Robert. > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting > language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. 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URL: From robert at cantab.net Wed Mar 29 14:09:04 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Wed Mar 29 14:09:04 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: remove moin.cgi from URL In-Reply-To: <3d8676e0603291010i532d4396u3cbe09b29b81ae8e@mail.gmail.com> References: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> <3d8676e0603291010i532d4396u3cbe09b29b81ae8e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442B056C.5060201@cantab.net> Mariano Absatz wrote: >On 3/29/06, Robert Schumann wrote: > > >>The solution to this problem is documented in >>http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RobertSchumann/ApacheOnLinuxFTPRootWiki >> >> >Hi Robert, > >thanx for your prompt reply... in fact, the second example in your >page is "morally equivalent" to what I had done... and I kept getting >the errors... > >Finally, I convinced my hoster to 'chown 662.661 /var/www' which is >always owned by root... and everything worked :-( > >Apache suexec is very nice, but *very* picky... my hoster is not very >happy that I can freely move around /var/www but I promised I >wouldn't... I hope nothing else breaks because of this. > > > Hmmm, I hadn't put my page into MoinMaster partly because I hadn't had much feedback on how well it worked in other setups. It would be great if you could add your experiences to that wiki page (see above). In particular, we should note that possible sources of trouble are * httpd.conf needs to have AllowOverride Fileinfo * suexec needs.... chowned DocumentRoot? * why doesn't my "morally equivalent" version work in Mehdi's setup? i.e. he needs to use the request = RequestCGI(properties={'script_name':'/terry'}) trick. Which way is better? I guess I was just lucky with my hosting provider providing a really friendly environment! Is it worth adding to or creating an htaccess equivalent of http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ApacheConfigExamples ? Robert. From tpfennig at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 16:18:02 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Wed Mar 29 16:18:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to merge userdata when upgrading from 1.3 to 1.5 In-Reply-To: <442A9D92.4030609@webde.de> References: <441ECFE6.30501@webde.de> <442A9D92.4030609@webde.de> Message-ID: <2cbc44a0603291611k1886be4fy15b33c42d0522d0@mail.gmail.com> 2006/3/29, Gisbert Amm : > I've searched the Moin website a bit, but did not find any particular > information on merging userbases there. Is it all written down in the > CHANGES file? Has anyone got some advice for me? Are both groups seperated or mixed? I think most secure would be to do it by hand. This could be simple because I think most file names (the ids) should be unique. So I suppose it should work if you just drop the files of one Moin into the other and than choose this dir for the other moin as common base. Anyone has objections to this procedure? Thilo -- http://vinci.wordpress.com From tpfennig at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 16:35:02 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Wed Mar 29 16:35:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Migration to 153 Message-ID: <2cbc44a0603291606r73fe61fg340a79cae40cca3d@mail.gmail.com> Shouldn't we tell people not to use FTP installation because it is not supported. As there are instructions like this: "After you have switched to new style migration, the procedure will be the same with every moin upgrade, simply run a command similar to this: sudo -u www-data moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data " Isn't it possible to have those scripts run via Web? The only possibilty if you have a ftp install is to copy everything to a system where you can do such thing (btw, never seen a Windows with a sudo command) I also think that the file README-migration is misleading. If people don't think really for themselves and read "First make sure you have run all the old mig scripts ONCE (and only once) on your data dirs." they might think that they need to run ALL the ild mig scripts once. But although this is stated here they should not unless they have an old installation. So to sum up: 1) We should not tell the admins that they can actually use FTP or Windows if we then tell them to use sudo and unix commands to migrate on a server. 2) I would see it as a great achievement if it would be possible for the superuser to make a migration. I would say that on a huge FTP installation it will be nearly impossiuble to upgrade that way or at least it would take ages. At least instructions could be more clearer and we could put a warning on documentation that on ftp install you will not be able to migrate unless you have a computer where you copy all this stuff. And imagine somebody with a 56k modem link that has to download some hundreds of MB just to issue one command for migration! Thilo -- http://vinci.wordpress.com From slzatz at gmail.com Wed Mar 29 17:21:06 2006 From: slzatz at gmail.com (Steve Zatz) Date: Wed Mar 29 17:21:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Updates slow on internal network In-Reply-To: <6b21d8370603270925m5809ebf5r927754a6e0093b5d@mail.gmail.com> References: <6b21d8370603270749w7cd7b72ct73ceaa7f152b40ff@mail.gmail.com> <4428184E.4060507@gmx.de> <9cee7ab80603270857j368bc333hcbe8efc131778cb5@mail.gmail.com> <6b21d8370603270925m5809ebf5r927754a6e0093b5d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6b21d8370603291720p43247f42pb42489c8599650f0@mail.gmail.com> > Check whether DNS reverse lookups work on your LAN. They didn't. If anyone is interested, putting an entry for the network gateway (192.168.15.1) that internal requests resolve to in /etc/hosts on the moin server corrected the problem of gethostsbyaddr in editlog.py timing out and returning a socket error resulting in very very long edited page saves. Thanks for the help. From ron-miller at comcast.net Wed Mar 29 17:29:06 2006 From: ron-miller at comcast.net (Ron Miller) Date: Wed Mar 29 17:29:06 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] old newbie Message-ID: <006401c65399$2b8cd770$6701a8c0@gateway9550> I've been using MoinMoin 1.1 for a website for several years http://www.thetranscriptproject.org/ttpwiki/TheTranscriptProject for a project I'm working on. It's now getting hit with spam - added pages, etc. I'm also using Webmin to administer the site. The site doesn't get much traffic (except for the spam). I want to upgrade to 1.5.3 and have done the initial set up. I'm not a programmer so I'm wading through the docs as best I can. I have several issues that I need help with. First, is there an easy migration to 1.5.3? If yes, how? Please don't recommend reading the docs, I've done that and I get lost. If not, how can I keep the pages I already have? I have an (ugly) test site with 1.5.3 running but I want to have all my pages as part of the new site. Is there some (easy) way to understand style sheets? I have a basic set up and I would like to mimic the style of wikipedia. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Peace, -Ron I went to the Missing Persons Bureau. No one was there. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yong27 at biohackers.net Wed Mar 29 18:42:10 2006 From: yong27 at biohackers.net (Hyungyong Kim) Date: Wed Mar 29 18:42:10 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to collect each translated page like WikiPedia Message-ID: I want to link the translated page to some page(it is not a SystemPage). Ultimately, I want to collect the same content page names(translated by each languages) and display the list in submenu like as WikiPedia. I'm finding this method how can I implement it. Is it good idea to use master-page header? Or, Do I have to make macro like as WikiPedia? Are there good starting point? Welcom any comment. Thanks. Hyungyong Kim -- Hyungyong Kim, http://biohackers.net From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de Wed Mar 29 22:37:03 2006 From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer) Date: Wed Mar 29 22:37:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: How to collect each translated page like WikiPedia References: Message-ID: <1rcwngdxfn3e7.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:41:07 +0900, Hyungyong Kim wrote: > I want to link the translated page to some page(it is not a > SystemPage). Ultimately, I want to collect the same content page > names(translated by each languages) and display the list in submenu > like as WikiPedia. > > I'm finding this method how can I implement it. Is it good idea to use > master-page header? Or, Do I have to make macro like as WikiPedia? Are > there good starting point? Wikipedia has simply setup multiple Wikis and links to them using an Interwiki-like system. So after you have setup that, you can simply write En:FooPage, Fr:PageFoo etc. If you want to render those links specially, you could use the section parser or similar tools. Kind regards, Alexander From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Mar 30 02:03:00 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu Mar 30 02:03:00 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Migration to 153 In-Reply-To: <2cbc44a0603291606r73fe61fg340a79cae40cca3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2cbc44a0603291606r73fe61fg340a79cae40cca3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442BAC91.2000704@gmx.de> > Shouldn't we tell people not to use FTP installation because it is not > supported. You can do ftp installation. It just makes things more complicated. > "After you have switched to new style migration, the procedure will be the same > with every moin upgrade, simply run a command similar to this: > > sudo -u www-data moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir > --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data > " Yeah, until now it was to call several scripts in MoinMoin/scripts/migration manually. So it is easier now. > Isn't it possible to have those scripts run via Web? Maybe, if you provide some code for it? :) > The only > possibilty if you have a ftp install is to copy everything to a system > where you can do such thing (btw, never seen a Windows with a sudo > command) If you have enough access rights, you don't need sudo. > I also think that the file README-migration is misleading. If people > don't think really for themselves and read "First make sure you have > run all the old mig scripts ONCE (and only once) on your data dirs." > they might think that they need to run ALL the ild mig scripts once. > But although this is stated here they should not unless they have an > old installation. Once EVER. > So to sum up: > > 1) We should not tell the admins that they can actually use FTP or > Windows if we then tell them to use sudo and unix commands to migrate > on a server. No. > 2) I would see it as a great achievement if it would be possible for > the superuser to make a migration. Provide code. > I would say that on a huge FTP installation it will be nearly > impossiuble to upgrade that way or at least it would take ages. Well, if you run a free or low cost stuff, you sometimes have not that comfort as when running with a shell account. That is not primarily a problem of moin... > At least instructions could be more clearer and we could put a warning > on documentation that on ftp install you will not be able to migrate > unless you have a computer where you copy all this stuff. And imagine > somebody with a 56k modem link that has to download some hundreds of > MB just to issue one command for migration! Feel free to improve docs for windows (I don't use windows) or write code (and test it) for an ftp-only installation/migration (I use neither). From gia at webde.de Thu Mar 30 02:06:27 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Thu Mar 30 02:06:27 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to merge userdata when upgrading from 1.3 to 1.5 In-Reply-To: <2cbc44a0603291611k1886be4fy15b33c42d0522d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <441ECFE6.30501@webde.de> <442A9D92.4030609@webde.de> <2cbc44a0603291611k1886be4fy15b33c42d0522d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442BAD46.8060506@webde.de> Thilo Pfennig wrote: > 2006/3/29, Gisbert Amm : > >>I've searched the Moin website a bit, but did not find any particular >>information on merging userbases there. Is it all written down in the >>CHANGES file? Has anyone got some advice for me? > > > Are both groups seperated or mixed? I think most secure would be to do > it by hand. This could be simple because I think most file names (the > ids) should be unique. So I suppose it should work if you just drop > the files of one Moin into the other and than choose this dir for the > other moin as common base. > There are users with accounts in both Wikis; they would end up with two accounts with possibly different settings. How would Moin solve this problem (two users with identical name and emailaddress)? Another question: Users might have subscribed to several pages in both Wikis. What happens to that subscriptions? -Gisbert Amm From mehdi.public at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 02:49:11 2006 From: mehdi.public at gmail.com (Mehdi Hassanpour) Date: Thu Mar 30 02:49:11 2006 Subject: [Moin-User] right column Message-ID: <1abd6b930603300248v32973499o138b1b9701eafff8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Can any one help me creating a right side column, like what is in this page : http://www.theopencd.org/programs I've installed balanced theme but couldn't create the right column, can any one sent me a customized balanced.py with right column uncommented and working ? I tested Column macro also but seems its not working with Moin 1.5.2 Thanks -- ******************************************************** Yours Sincerely, Mehdi Hassanpour ---------------------------------------------------------------------- /* Of one Essence is the human race, Thusly has Creation put the Base; One Limb impacted is sufficient, For all Others to feel the Mace. ~Saadi (persian poet) -1258 */ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- http://ImPersian.com | http://Hezardastan.org ******************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From el.baby at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 05:19:03 2006 From: el.baby at gmail.com (Mariano Absatz) Date: Thu Mar 30 05:19:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Re: remove moin.cgi from URL In-Reply-To: <442B056C.5060201@cantab.net> References: <442AB891.5020009@gmail.com> <442AC48E.4020307@cantab.net> <3d8676e0603291010i532d4396u3cbe09b29b81ae8e@mail.gmail.com> <442B056C.5060201@cantab.net> Message-ID: <3d8676e0603300518g4a059d9et5a42067b0dbcd69@mail.gmail.com> On 3/29/06, Robert Schumann wrote: > Hmmm, I hadn't put my page into MoinMaster partly because I hadn't had > much feedback on how well it worked in other setups. It would be great > if you could add your experiences to that wiki page (see above). In > particular, we should note that possible sources of trouble are > * httpd.conf needs to have AllowOverride Fileinfo > * suexec needs.... chowned DocumentRoot? > * why doesn't my "morally equivalent" version work in Mehdi's setup? > i.e. he needs to use the request = > RequestCGI(properties={'script_name':'/terry'}) trick. Which way is better? Well... I just created an account on http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ in order to do some editing here... but I can't even preview my changes... that is, the site seems responsive, I choose "edit text" and it informs me it locked the page, but when I hit "preview" (or "cancel", for that matter) it does nothing... that is, it seems to take a long time and then nothing happens... Might it be because the page is "yours" (that is, it's under http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RobertSchumann)? I'm using Firefox under Debian Sarge... also tried Epiphany with the same results :-( -- Mariano Absatz - El Baby el (dot) baby (AT) gmail (dot) com el (punto) baby (ARROBA:@) gmail (punto) com From tpfennig at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 05:41:03 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Thu Mar 30 05:41:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to merge userdata when upgrading from 1.3 to 1.5 In-Reply-To: <442BAD46.8060506@webde.de> References: <441ECFE6.30501@webde.de> <442A9D92.4030609@webde.de> <2cbc44a0603291611k1886be4fy15b33c42d0522d0@mail.gmail.com> <442BAD46.8060506@webde.de> Message-ID: <2cbc44a0603300540w19393594j5cfc112768ebb544@mail.gmail.com> 2006/3/30, Gisbert Amm : > There are users with accounts in both Wikis; they would end up with two > accounts with possibly different settings. How would Moin solve this > problem (two users with identical name and emailaddress)? > > Another question: Users might have subscribed to several pages in both > Wikis. What happens to that subscriptions? I don't know what Moin will do. But you cpuld handle this by hand, too. Depending on how large your user base is (?). You have the dirs data/user and every file with the user ID contains information about the user. Do you have shell access? Then you could look into the dir by grepping: grep 'name=UserName' * That should give you a list of both wikis. I think a migration script would be possible. From the idea it should have information of "userdatabase 1" and "userdatabase 2". i would suggest that this script could user the farmconfig.py. There is a new "MoinMoin script interface" that currently uses: "moin --config-dir=/my/cfgdir --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ " etc. see doc/CHANGES in moin 1.5.3 rc1. I would suggest that this rather uses 'moin --wiki-name=FarmconfigName' ... And for merging user basis someting like: 'moin --wikiname=FarmconfigName --wikidestination=FarmconfigName2 mergeusers' This could be interactive and ask a user what to do when there is some overlap I think this can be made by some good Python hacker as it seems that this script already can handle user accounts. Please dont tell me to provide code. I am not a real programmer and you would have to wait months in order to get me providing code that would be accepted ! ;-) I would provide code if I could... I think its better if somebody who knows this script well makes some extension because he will know what he is doing. Thilo -- http://vinci.wordpress.com From gia at webde.de Thu Mar 30 06:51:02 2006 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Thu Mar 30 06:51:02 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to merge userdata when upgrading from 1.3 to 1.5 In-Reply-To: <2cbc44a0603300641j48330cc3o32031bc13202882@mail.gmail.com> References: <441ECFE6.30501@webde.de> <2cbc44a0603300641j48330cc3o32031bc13202882@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442BEF04.9000603@webde.de> I'm in the state of searching for it myself :) I guess ATM there'll be no alternative to reading the code ... -Gisbert Amm Thilo Pfennig wrote: > Hi, > > I did not find the setting for sharing user data. i just found the > user home dir settings in HelpOnConfiguration. I also read about > sharing user data but never tried. I thought this variable would be > somewhere documented. Can you tell me what it is called? > shared_userdir or something like that? From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Mar 30 08:27:11 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu Mar 30 08:27:11 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] How to merge userdata when upgrading from 1.3 to 1.5 In-Reply-To: <442BEF04.9000603@webde.de> References: <441ECFE6.30501@webde.de> <2cbc44a0603300641j48330cc3o32031bc13202882@mail.gmail.com> <442BEF04.9000603@webde.de> Message-ID: <442C06C7.2000001@gmx.de> >> I did not find the setting for sharing user data. i just found the >> user home dir settings in HelpOnConfiguration. You mean user_homewiki? That is something different... You need to point user_dir to the same directory - and that is all you need for doing a fresh farm setup with shared users. interwikiname should also be set to some sane (and different) value for all wikis in the farm. The account file (name == id) will just be shared. Quicklinks are expected to be local wiki or have an interwiki prefix. Trail will be shared. Bookmark will be ..bookmark. From mehdi.public at gmail.com Thu Mar 30 13:52:03 2006 From: mehdi.public at gmail.com (Mehdi Hassanpour) Date: Thu Mar 30 13:52:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-User] Vote2 for Moin1.5.2 Message-ID: <1abd6b930603301351m1deda370y574ee92f108e64ae@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, I can't use "Vote2" or "vote2_moin12" in Moin 1.5.2... seems that this macro was for previous Moin releases, do you know what can I do ? need some help... http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ActionMarket Thanks -- ******************************************************** Yours Sincerely, Mehdi Hassanpour ---------------------------------------------------------------------- /* Of one Essence is the human race, Thusly has Creation put the Base; One Limb impacted is sufficient, For all Others to feel the Mace. ~Saadi (persian poet) -1258 */ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- http://ImPersian.com | http://Hezardastan.org ******************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From el.baby at gmail.com Fri Mar 31 06:16:09 2006 From: el.baby at gmail.com (Mariano Absatz) Date: Fri Mar 31 06:16:09 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Buttons not working in http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/*?action=edit&editor=text Message-ID: <3d8676e0603310615t4aae83ew17bb735040993844@mail.gmail.com> Hi, is it just me? is it my connection? I'm not an expert moin user, but I've used it somehow... yesterday I tried to update a page in http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ but I couldn't. It doesn't seem to be a permissions problem... I can't even do this in the WikiSandBox... The problem is that I choose "Edit" and I get the edit page (e.g. http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiSandBox?action=edit&editor=text) and I can edit the text to my will. However, none of the top buttons work... not even "Cancel"... That is, I press any button and the browser stays in "wait" (or "working" or whatever you call it) mode for a while (quite a few seconds, maybe a minute), and then, nothing happens. I'm using Firefox under Debian Sarge, but also tried Epiphany and I even tried MSIE and Firefox in a windows XP... It may have to do with my connection... but it's strange... I have good speed browsing http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de, I'm using cable modem provider Fibertel (in Buenos Aires, Argentina)... I know they have some kind of transparent webcache hardware, but I never had a problem like this... What's more, I can even edit other moinmoin wikis without a problem (e.g. http://wiki.cauce.org.ar/cgi-bin/moin.cgi , which is old but works fine...) Has this ever happened to someone? Anyone have a clue? -- Mariano Absatz - El Baby el (dot) baby (AT) gmail (dot) com el (punto) baby (ARROBA:@) gmail (punto) com From mark.volkert at rakekniven.de Fri Mar 31 08:03:10 2006 From: mark.volkert at rakekniven.de (Mark Volkert) Date: Fri Mar 31 08:03:10 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Post 1.5.3 new style migration In-Reply-To: <442BAC91.2000704@gmx.de> References: <2cbc44a0603291606r73fe61fg340a79cae40cca3d@mail.gmail.com> <442BAC91.2000704@gmx.de> Message-ID: <200603311739.29540.mark.volkert@rakekniven.de> I just downloaded 1.5.3rc1 and read README.migration I ran all migration scripts and my wiki is working. But I couldn't understand the new "Post 1.5.3 new style migration" Can you give a little more information for the command: sudo -u www-data moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data 1. Do I have to make a sudo entry? think so. 2. What do you mean with wiki-url? My testwiki is reachable on "127.0.0.1/testwiki". But it doesn't work. 3. Is migration a cmd line option? 4. Is migration a cmd line option or the path to my data dir? I am using MoinMoin now for 2 years and my simple apache install works. But I agree with many people on the list in the last 3 month if they complain about upgrading docs. The docs for upgrading is not detailed enough. Best regards, Mark From robert at cantab.net Fri Mar 31 14:14:13 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Fri Mar 31 14:14:13 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Sneaky spam Message-ID: <442DA971.1070207@cantab.net> [My first attempt to send this email bounced, guess why....] I'm not a particularly sophisticated anti-spam activist, but I'm curious how the following happens: someone has managed to sneak in the same (very obvious) spam sequence (v**gr*, dioxyexpialadocious or whatever they're trying to sell) onto 2 pages, twice this week. The curious thing is that, despite being subscribed to all pages and including trivial changes in my subscriptions, I have not received any notification of the changes. The spam also does not seem directed at exclusively at Moin, since it includes
links. I have now activated the from MoinMoin.util.antispam import SecurityPolicy which was deactivated due to errors in a previous version. But how were the spammers able to edit the wiki without me finding out? Robert. From fdrake at gmail.com Fri Mar 31 14:38:01 2006 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Fri Mar 31 14:38:01 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Sneaky spam In-Reply-To: <442DA971.1070207@cantab.net> References: <442DA971.1070207@cantab.net> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80603311437s7a00529dyb9a514bfedd04852@mail.gmail.com> On 3/31/06, Robert Schumann wrote: > But how were the spammers able to edit the wiki without me finding out? Is it possible the spamy content got caught by spam filters on email? Depending on the configurations of MTAs along the way, it might not have happened at your mailbox. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Don't let schooling interfere with your education." -- Mark Twain From robert at cantab.net Fri Mar 31 15:06:03 2006 From: robert at cantab.net (Robert Schumann) Date: Fri Mar 31 15:06:03 2006 Subject: [Moin-user] Sneaky spam In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80603311437s7a00529dyb9a514bfedd04852@mail.gmail.com> References: <442DA971.1070207@cantab.net> <9cee7ab80603311437s7a00529dyb9a514bfedd04852@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <442DB59D.6050906@cantab.net> Fred Drake wrote: >On 3/31/06, Robert Schumann wrote: > > >>But how were the spammers able to edit the wiki without me finding out? >> >> > >Is it possible the spamy content got caught by spam filters on email? >Depending on the configurations of MTAs along the way, it might not >have happened at your mailbox. > > Damn, I'm losing count of the number of times I ask questions with obvious answers on this list. Sourceforge even rejected my own email because of the presence of a nasty pharmacological word, just in case I missed the hint..... Hmm, it appears we have a bit of a Catch 22 here: how does my MTA select the spam I want? OK, let's hold thumbs the antispam countermeasures work now! Robert. > > -Fred > >-- >Fred L. Drake, Jr. >"Don't let schooling interfere with your education." -- Mark Twain > >