From andrew-lists at mail.black1.org.uk  Thu Sep  1 07:55:07 2005
From: andrew-lists at mail.black1.org.uk (andrew-lists)
Date: Thu Sep  1 07:55:07 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Filling in a page from a form
Message-ID: <21353.81.2.66.249.1125560660.squirrel@vm.black1.org.uk>

I would like to put a form up and based on the data enetered into the form
create a moin page (or add to the contents of an existing page).

Are there any examples around of how to do this (or macros that would help)

Andrew Black




From nirs at actcom.net.il  Thu Sep  1 09:01:28 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Thu Sep  1 09:01:28 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Filling in a page from a form
In-Reply-To: <21353.81.2.66.249.1125560660.squirrel@vm.black1.org.uk>
References: <21353.81.2.66.249.1125560660.squirrel@vm.black1.org.uk>
Message-ID: <311B3D22-1B01-11DA-BFAA-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 1 Sep, 2005, at 10:44, andrew-lists wrote:

> I would like to put a form up and based on the data enetered into the 
> form
> create a moin page (or add to the contents of an existing page).
>
> Are there any examples around of how to do this (or macros that would 
> help)

The best example is the NewPage macro and the newpage action. 
Generally, you need a macro to show the form, and an action to do the 
server side work, unless one of the exiting actions does what you want.

Both macro and action can be installed as plugins  - in 
wiki/data/plugin/macro or as builtins - in 
prefix/lib/python2.x/site-packages/MoinMoin/macro.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From Tony.Garland at fluke.com  Thu Sep  1 09:17:56 2005
From: Tony.Garland at fluke.com (Garland, Tony)
Date: Thu Sep  1 09:17:56 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Java exception when attempt to edit
Message-ID: <732BE51FE9901143AE04411A11CC465607C5BFBA@evtexc02.tc.fluke.com>

Thanks Brandon,

I guess the twikidraw.jar file needs to be built with an updated
version of StorableOutput:

|In CH.ifa.draw.util.StorableOutput, mod the following method (around line
#98 in my version):
|
|    public void writeString(String s) {
|        fStream.print('"');
|        for(int i = 0; i < s.length(); i++) {
|            char c = s.charAt(i);
|            switch(c) {
|                case '\r': break; // suppress the \r being written out
|                case '\n': fStream.print('\\'); fStream.print('n'); break;
|
|I used the new switch case to suppress the \r case which was stuffing up my
files. There's probably a more elegant and |general solution out there!

It appears the latest twikidraw.jar file from twiki.org doesn't address this
issue.

> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:07:05 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Brandon Kuczenski <bkuczens at andrew.cmu.edu>
> To: Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de>
> cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Java exception when attempt to edit 
> existing drawing
...
> I don't know if there's a bug filed, but this is listed in 
> the TWikiDraw 
> discussion: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/TWikiDrawPluginDev
> 
> The problem is caused by a text object containing a newline.  
> When the 
> user enters a newline into a text object, it generates a 
> spurious ^M in 
> the source which confuses the .. uh, parser?  I found that I 
> could get the 
> drawing to load if I edited the .draw file by hand and 
> removed the newline 
> syntax.
> 
> This is actually the reason I subscribed to this list, but I 
> think it's a 
> TWikiDraw problem rather than a MoinMoin problem.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Brandon Kuczenski
> Department of Mechanical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> 



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Date: Thu Sep  1 23:02:14 2005
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From R.Bauer at fz-juelich.de  Thu Sep  1 23:37:30 2005
From: R.Bauer at fz-juelich.de (Reimar Bauer)
Date: Thu Sep  1 23:37:30 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Filling in a page from a form
Message-ID: <4317F2D0.1000702@fz-juelich.de>

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>> I would like to put a form up and based on the data enetered into the
>> form
>> create a moin page (or add to the contents of an existing page).
>>
>> Are there any examples around of how to do this (or macros that would
>> help)


a simple form to write on a page with revisions and acls is:

http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ActionMarket?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=RecommendPage-1.3.4-3.py

cheers
Reimar


- --
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Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-I)
Forschungszentrum Juelich
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From Matthew.Warren at eon-uk.com  Fri Sep  2 02:40:02 2005
From: Matthew.Warren at eon-uk.com (Warren, Matthew (Corp))
Date: Fri Sep  2 02:40:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Broken Macros?
Message-ID: <33C3DEE7361D394290F8CC76E3866638021C7616@CORPHNXSEXV01.corp.pg.eon.net>

HI,

 

Apologies for repost, but I'm headed home today and was hoping for a
clue as to what the issue may be so I could tackle it this weekend minus
the headsratching :-)

 

..and sorry for the disclaimer, if I could prevent it I would.

 

 

Hallo,

I recently had to recover and rebuild the TsmWiki after a disk failure.

I rebuilt, installed apache, python 2.4, moinmoin, created apache
aliases and then just replaced the apache alias dir's with the content
of the wiki.

At this point, I think everything is as it was before.

Now, you can goto www.tsmwiki.com/tsmwiki to see for yourself, try doing
a page search.

It appears that none of the macros are working, instead I just see
things like [[GetText()]] etc.. embedded into the page text.

Here's a copy of my            FrontPage?action=test action;

MoinMoin Diagnosis

======================

Release 1.3.4

Revision 1.3.4 release

Python version 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]

Python installed to C:\python24

PyXML is installed

Python Path:

   c:/moin/lib/site-packages/

   c:/moin/tsmwiki/tsmwiki/

   C:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki

   C:\WINDOWS\system32\python24.zip

   C:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki

   C:\python24\DLLs

   C:\python24\lib

   C:\python24\lib\plat-win

   C:\python24\lib\lib-tk

   C:\python24

   C:\python24\lib\site-packages

Checking directories...

    data directory tests OK (set to 'c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data')

    user directory tests OK (set to 'c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data\user')

Server Environment:

    ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST!

Unit Tests:

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ran 0 tests in 0.000s

OK

Any ideas as to why my macros are bustud?

 

Thanks,

Matt.




































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From jensj at fysik.dtu.dk  Mon Sep  5 00:56:06 2005
From: jensj at fysik.dtu.dk (Jens Jorgen Mortensen)
Date: Mon Sep  5 00:56:06 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Nightly update of page
Message-ID: <431BF9E9.8080407@fysik.dtu.dk>

Hello!

I have a page in my wiki, that contains some text and an image (an
attachment).  I would like both text and image to be updated nightly by
a crontab job.  Can I simply have my crontab job overwrite these files?

data/pages/TestPage/revisions/00000001
data/pages/TestPage/attachments/image.png

Will this be OK and safe?  I am a little worried about the "edit-log"
file.

Is there a better way to do it?

Jens J?rgen



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Mon Sep  5 04:26:06 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Mon Sep  5 04:26:06 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Nightly update of page
In-Reply-To: <431BF9E9.8080407@fysik.dtu.dk>
References: <431BF9E9.8080407@fysik.dtu.dk>
Message-ID: <A1328E48-1DFF-11DA-935A-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 5 Sep, 2005, at 10:55, Jens Jorgen Mortensen wrote:

> I have a page in my wiki, that contains some text and an image (an
> attachment).  I would like both text and image to be updated nightly by
> a crontab job.  Can I simply have my crontab job overwrite these files?
>
> data/pages/TestPage/revisions/00000001
> data/pages/TestPage/attachments/image.png

It should work, but has few problems:
  * You will loose the history of the page
  * The page edit-log will show wrong date
  * The wiki edit-log will show wrong date
  * If you use Lupy indexed search, the index will not be updated with 
the new text in the page
  * Any feature that triggered by the wiki edit log date might break

The best way would be to run a python script that save a new page 
revision in a correct way. It can save without backups if needed.

Use this as example:
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ScriptMarket/AppendTextScript

It append text to the page. You can easily change it to replace the 
text. I think you can control the backups feature with an argument to 
the PageEditor constructor.

If you create a working script, please put it on ScriptMarket.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From lists at bpsw.biz  Mon Sep  5 20:27:29 2005
From: lists at bpsw.biz (Max Campos)
Date: Mon Sep  5 20:27:29 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Nightly update of page
In-Reply-To: <A1328E48-1DFF-11DA-935A-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <431BF9E9.8080407@fysik.dtu.dk> <A1328E48-1DFF-11DA-935A-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <308060DD-EA95-4F8C-A970-D8AE7A6EDABB@bpsw.biz>

I have created a pair of scripts to do exactly this (a "put page"  
script and a "get page" script).  I'm not quite done with them yet,  
but I will provide them to Jens or anyone else, if you like.

A few notes:
- These scripts use the Moin python libraries, rather than the XML- 
RPC interface
- The put script I wrote adds an entry to the edit log (not sure if  
that's desired).

When I finish I will add them to ScriptMarket.

- Max

On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:24 am, Nir Soffer wrote:

>
> On 5 Sep, 2005, at 10:55, Jens Jorgen Mortensen wrote:
>
>
>> I have a page in my wiki, that contains some text and an image (an
>> attachment).  I would like both text and image to be updated  
>> nightly by
>> a crontab job.  Can I simply have my crontab job overwrite these  
>> files?
>>
>> data/pages/TestPage/revisions/00000001
>> data/pages/TestPage/attachments/image.png
>>
>
> It should work, but has few problems:
>  * You will loose the history of the page
>  * The page edit-log will show wrong date
>  * The wiki edit-log will show wrong date
>  * If you use Lupy indexed search, the index will not be updated  
> with the new text in the page
>  * Any feature that triggered by the wiki edit log date might break
>
> The best way would be to run a python script that save a new page  
> revision in a correct way. It can save without backups if needed.
>
> Use this as example:
> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ScriptMarket/AppendTextScript
>
> It append text to the page. You can easily change it to replace the  
> text. I think you can control the backups feature with an argument  
> to the PageEditor constructor.
>
> If you create a working script, please put it on ScriptMarket.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nir Soffer
>
>
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From jensj at fysik.dtu.dk  Mon Sep  5 23:43:16 2005
From: jensj at fysik.dtu.dk (Jens Jorgen Mortensen)
Date: Mon Sep  5 23:43:16 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Nightly update of page
In-Reply-To: <308060DD-EA95-4F8C-A970-D8AE7A6EDABB@bpsw.biz>
References: <431BF9E9.8080407@fysik.dtu.dk> <A1328E48-1DFF-11DA-935A-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il> <308060DD-EA95-4F8C-A970-D8AE7A6EDABB@bpsw.biz>
Message-ID: <431D3A51.2080508@fysik.dtu.dk>

Max Campos wrote:
> I have created a pair of scripts to do exactly this (a "put page"  
> script and a "get page" script).  I'm not quite done with them yet,  but 
> I will provide them to Jens or anyone else, if you like.
> 
> A few notes:
> - These scripts use the Moin python libraries, rather than the XML- RPC 
> interface
> - The put script I wrote adds an entry to the edit log (not sure if  
> that's desired).
> 
> When I finish I will add them to ScriptMarket.

That would be great!  Thanks, Nir and Max.

What about updating an attachment?  Anything to look out for there?

Jens J?rgen



From zyf_sz at tom.com  Tue Sep  6 00:43:18 2005
From: zyf_sz at tom.com (TOM)
Date: Tue Sep  6 00:43:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Error display hitcounts info
Message-ID: <20050906154019.4383.ZYF_SZ@tom.com>

Hi,

My wiki can't display the hitcounts information, it gives error like following. 

my lang is simplified Chinese. how to solve this problem? 

----------------
UnicodeEncodeError'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 32-33: ordinal not in range(128) Please include this information in your bug reports!:
Python Python 2.3.4: D:\program\Python23\python.exe
Platform: win32 (nt)
MoinMoin Release 1.3.4 [Revision patch-723; DesktopEdition Release 1.3.4-2]
Tue Sep 06 15:43:49 2005 

A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.

 D:\home\moin-desktop\MoinMoin\request.py in run(self=<MoinMoin.request.RequestStandAlone instance at 0x0139FE18>) 
 


 D:\home\moin-desktop\MoinMoin\wikiaction.py in do_info(pagename=u'\u964d\u4f4e\u6d41\u566a\u58f0\u7684\u65b9\u6cd5', request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestStandAlone instance at 0x0139FE18>) 
 


 D:\home\moin-desktop\MoinMoin\stats\hitcounts.py in linkto(pagename=u'\u964d\u4f4e\u6d41\u566a\u58f0\u7684\u65b9\u6cd5', request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestStandAlone instance at 0x0139FE18>, params='page=%E9%99%8D%E4%BD%8E%E6%B5%81%E5%99%AA%E5%A3%B0%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E6%B3%95') 
 


 D:\home\moin-desktop\MoinMoin\stats\hitcounts.py in text(pagename=u'\u964d\u4f4e\u6d41\u566a\u58f0\u7684\u65b9\u6cd5', request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestStandAlone instance at 0x0139FE18>, params='%E9%99%8D%E4%BD%8E%E6%B5%81%E5%99%AA%E5%A3%B0%E7%9A%84%E6%96%B9%E6%B3%95') 
 


 D:\home\moin-desktop\MoinMoin\widget\browser.py in render(self=<MoinMoin.widget.browser.DataBrowserWidget instance at 0x013A1A30>) 
 


UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 32-33: ordinal not in range(128) 
      __doc__ = 'Unicode encoding error.' 
      __getitem__ = <bound method UnicodeEncodeError.__getitem__ of ...tions.UnicodeEncodeError instance at 0x013A14B8>> 
      __init__ = <bound method UnicodeEncodeError.__init__ of <exceptions.UnicodeEncodeError instance at 0x013A14B8>> 
      __module__ = 'exceptions' 
      __str__ = <bound method UnicodeEncodeError.__str__ of <exceptions.UnicodeEncodeError instance at 0x013A14B8>> 
      args = ('ascii', u'<div>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<strong>\u65e5\u671f</strong></td>...td>\n6.0</td>\n<td>\n5.0</td>\n</tr>\n</table>\n</div>\n', 32, 34, 'ordinal not in range(128)') 
      encoding = 'ascii' 
      end = 34 
      object = u'<div>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<strong>\u65e5\u671f</strong></td>...td>\n6.0</td>\n<td>\n5.0</td>\n</tr>\n</table>\n</div>\n' 
      reason = 'ordinal not in range(128)' 
      start = 32 





From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Tue Sep  6 02:12:24 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Tue Sep  6 02:12:24 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Error display hitcounts info
References: <20050906154019.4383.ZYF_SZ@tom.com>
Message-ID: <1pmq8v2leetb0.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 15:46:56 +0800, TOM wrote:

> My wiki can't display the hitcounts information, it gives error like following. 
> 
> my lang is simplified Chinese. how to solve this problem? 

This bug could have been fixed in the current code base. But unfortunately,
I have not released DesktopEdition for the 1.3.5 release (primarily because
of the many open bugs like Python 2.2 incompatiblity).
So you will have to wait for the next DesktopEdition release (which could
be 1.5).

Kind regards,
Alexander




From vincefn at users.sourceforge.net  Tue Sep  6 02:13:57 2005
From: vincefn at users.sourceforge.net (Favre-Nicolin Vincent)
Date: Tue Sep  6 02:13:57 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Sourceforge, backup, "Page could not get locked. Missing 'current' file?"
Message-ID: <200509061101.11562.vincefn@users.sourceforge.net>

	Hi all,

  I setup a moinmoin wiki on sourceforge (at 
http://objcryst.sf.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi). As apparently many other, the data 
directories (world-writable) were deleted on 20050831.
  I used my rsync backup to bring back the wiki online, no problem. But when I 
tried modifying a page, I got the (infamous ?) error:
"Page could not get locked. Missing 'current' file ?"

  At first I thought it was the file permissions but evrything was 
world-writable, so that was not it. After some time I found the actual 
problem, which was coming from the MoinEditorBackup pages, which are stored 
whenever you edit a new page in the directory: 
data/pages/YourWikiUserName(2f)MoinEditorBackup 

   Somewhere in PageEditor._write_file moinmoin tries to change the 
permissions and got booted.

   Bottom line: when recovering a backup, do *not* copy the 
data/pages/YourWikiUserName(2f)MoinEditorBackup directories...

   Maybe this should be added to the "Page could not get locked" FAQ in 
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinQuestions/Errors ?


  One note about sourceforge accounts. I am not sure it is really necessary to 
change the umask in config.py to 0777. Actually 0755 (0744 ?) should be 
sufficient. Thus files created by the web user are not writeable by you, but 
if you need to do that (removing all files), all you have to do is go in some 
moinmoin python code and temporarily add a line with "os.system("chmod -R 
0777 /tmp/persistent/MY_PROJECT/") ?
   This won't prevent a stupid web-activated script to erase all data 
belonging to nfsnobody, but at least it will not be world-writable anymore, 
so a script running on the shell servers will not be able to scrap the data 
anymore.

	Vincent
-- 
Vincent Favre-Nicolin
Universit? Joseph Fourier
http://v.favrenicolin.free.fr
ObjCryst & Fox : http://objcryst.sourceforge.net



From zyf_sz at tom.com  Tue Sep  6 02:30:23 2005
From: zyf_sz at tom.com (Zhang Yunfeng)
Date: Tue Sep  6 02:30:23 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Error display hitcounts info
In-Reply-To: <1pmq8v2leetb0.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
References: <20050906154019.4383.ZYF_SZ@tom.com> <1pmq8v2leetb0.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <20050906173309.438F.ZYF_SZ@tom.com>

thanks,  Alexander

In fact, I seldom use this function. It won't bother too much

Zhang yunfeng





From soloturn at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 07:58:19 2005
From: soloturn at gmail.com (solo turn)
Date: Tue Sep  6 07:58:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] strike through text
Message-ID: <e1d4f8cd050906075738eff86f@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

is there a possibility to strike text, like in edgewall trac?
http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WikiFormatting

they are saying the implement a "subset" of moinmoin tags, and they 
~~strike~~ like that.

-solo
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From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Sep  6 09:24:21 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Sep  6 09:24:21 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] strike through text
In-Reply-To: <e1d4f8cd050906075738eff86f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1d4f8cd050906075738eff86f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76F1329A-1EF2-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 6 Sep, 2005, at 17:57, solo turn wrote:

>  is there a possibility to strike text, like in edgewall trac?
> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WikiFormatting
>
>  they are saying the implement a "subset" of moinmoin tags, and they 
> ~~strike~~ like that.

Currently there is no markup for this, bug its planned for 2.0, maybe 
1.5.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From RRevanur at xrite.com  Tue Sep  6 10:28:18 2005
From: RRevanur at xrite.com (Rama Revanur)
Date: Tue Sep  6 10:28:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Changing admin user
Message-ID: <31A79A99946C084AA0F433FDF70639D10968B054@XRMAIL.XRITE.COM>

All,

 

I installed MoinMoin wiki with my user name and group information as the
admin user. I want to change it to a WikiUser account. Do I have to
reinstall the wiki? Is there any other way?

 

Regards,

 

Rama Revanur

Software Team Manager

616-257-2609

 

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From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Sep  6 10:37:35 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Sep  6 10:37:35 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Changing admin user
In-Reply-To: <31A79A99946C084AA0F433FDF70639D10968B054@XRMAIL.XRITE.COM>
References: <31A79A99946C084AA0F433FDF70639D10968B054@XRMAIL.XRITE.COM>
Message-ID: <B8218E87-1EFC-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 6 Sep, 2005, at 20:27, Rama Revanur wrote:

> I installed MoinMoin wiki with my user name and group information as 
> the admin user. I want to change it to a WikiUser account. Do I have 
> to reinstall the wiki? Is there any other way?

I don't understand the problem, but I you don't need to reinstall the 
wiki :)

You should read 
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinQuestions/Administration


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From RRevanur at xrite.com  Tue Sep  6 10:45:16 2005
From: RRevanur at xrite.com (Rama Revanur)
Date: Tue Sep  6 10:45:16 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Changing admin user
Message-ID: <31A79A99946C084AA0F433FDF70639D10968B0CE@XRMAIL.XRITE.COM>

Thanks for the response. I am not able to run the moin.py as any other
user other than myself. I think at the time of installing, user and
group are 2 things that we supply, which should be the logged in user
for the wiki to run. I want to remove the dependency on my account and
change it to a non expiring account. I tried changing the acl rights as
suggested in the help, but when I view the wiki frontpage, it still gave
me access rights error in the python script. How can I do that?

Regards,
 
Rama Revanur
Software Team Manager
616-257-2609

-----Original Message-----
From: Nir Soffer [mailto:nirs at actcom.net.il] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:36 PM
To: Rama Revanur
Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Changing admin user


On 6 Sep, 2005, at 20:27, Rama Revanur wrote:

> I installed MoinMoin wiki with my user name and group information as 
> the admin user. I want to change it to a WikiUser account. Do I have 
> to reinstall the wiki? Is there any other way?

I don't understand the problem, but I you don't need to reinstall the 
wiki :)

You should read 
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinQuestions/Administration


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Sep  6 11:11:16 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Sep  6 11:11:16 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Changing admin user
In-Reply-To: <31A79A99946C084AA0F433FDF70639D10968B0CE@XRMAIL.XRITE.COM>
References: <31A79A99946C084AA0F433FDF70639D10968B0CE@XRMAIL.XRITE.COM>
Message-ID: <7ABA942C-1F01-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 6 Sep, 2005, at 20:44, Rama Revanur wrote:

> Thanks for the response. I am not able to run the moin.py as any other
> user other than myself.

You should run moin.py with the user and group that own the wiki 
directory.

If you want to change the user and group:

	chown -R username:groupname /path/to/wiki

And same for your underlay directory, if its not in the wiki directory.

If you run moin.py as that user, it should work just fine. If you run 
it as root, you have to update the user and group setting in moin.py. 
It will drop root and run as these user and group.

> I think at the time of installing, user and
> group are 2 things that we supply, which should be the logged in user
> for the wiki to run. I want to remove the dependency on my account and
> change it to a non expiring account. I tried changing the acl rights as
> suggested in the help, but when I view the wiki frontpage, it still 
> gave
> me access rights error in the python script. How can I do that?

acl rights are not related to this. First make sure your wiki run 
correctly.


If this does not help, please show the exact command line you use and 
the error message you get.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From RRevanur at xrite.com  Tue Sep  6 11:57:29 2005
From: RRevanur at xrite.com (Rama Revanur)
Date: Tue Sep  6 11:57:29 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Changing admin user
Message-ID: <31A79A99946C084AA0F433FDF70639D10968B26E@XRMAIL.XRITE.COM>

Thanks!! That did it.

Regards,
 
Rama Revanur
Software Team Manager
616-257-2609

-----Original Message-----
From: Nir Soffer [mailto:nirs at actcom.net.il] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 2:10 PM
To: Rama Revanur
Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Changing admin user


On 6 Sep, 2005, at 20:44, Rama Revanur wrote:

> Thanks for the response. I am not able to run the moin.py as any other
> user other than myself.

You should run moin.py with the user and group that own the wiki 
directory.

If you want to change the user and group:

	chown -R username:groupname /path/to/wiki

And same for your underlay directory, if its not in the wiki directory.

If you run moin.py as that user, it should work just fine. If you run 
it as root, you have to update the user and group setting in moin.py. 
It will drop root and run as these user and group.

> I think at the time of installing, user and
> group are 2 things that we supply, which should be the logged in user
> for the wiki to run. I want to remove the dependency on my account and
> change it to a non expiring account. I tried changing the acl rights
as
> suggested in the help, but when I view the wiki frontpage, it still 
> gave
> me access rights error in the python script. How can I do that?

acl rights are not related to this. First make sure your wiki run 
correctly.


If this does not help, please show the exact command line you use and 
the error message you get.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From gia at webde-ag.de  Wed Sep  7 00:28:23 2005
From: gia at webde-ag.de (Gisbert Amm)
Date: Wed Sep  7 00:28:23 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] PageList regex from version 1.2 does not work with version 1.3.4
Message-ID: <431E9677.30103@webde-ag.de>

Does anybody know why this PageList regex, that worked with Moin 1.2 
does not work with version 1.3.4 any more?:

[[PageList([^cC]ssh|secureshell)]]

Do we need to set some configuration option for PageList to accept 
regular expressions or something like that?

Any help would be highly appreciated.

Regards,
Gisbert Amm



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Wed Sep  7 04:02:18 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Wed Sep  7 04:02:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] PageList regex from version 1.2 does not work with version 1.3.4
In-Reply-To: <431E9677.30103@webde-ag.de>
References: <431E9677.30103@webde-ag.de>
Message-ID: <A7BEE67E-1F8E-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 7 Sep, 2005, at 10:27, Gisbert Amm wrote:

> Does anybody know why this PageList regex, that worked with Moin 1.2 
> does not work with version 1.3.4 any more?:
>
> [[PageList([^cC]ssh|secureshell)]]
>
> Do we need to set some configuration option for PageList to accept 
> regular expressions or something like that?

1.3 used more powerfull search engine, unfortunately, the search syntax 
was changed. To use regular expressions you need to use a modifier: 
[[PageList(regex:[^cC]ssh|secureshell)]].

See HelpOnSearching in your favorite MoinMoin wiki.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From skip at pobox.com  Wed Sep  7 04:16:28 2005
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Wed Sep  7 04:16:28 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] PageList regex from version 1.2 does not work with
        version 1.3.4
In-Reply-To: <431E9677.30103@webde-ag.de>
References: <431E9677.30103@webde-ag.de>
Message-ID: <17182.52099.540115.443799@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    Gisbert> Does anybody know why this PageList regex, that worked with Moin 1.2 
    Gisbert> does not work with version 1.3.4 any more?:

    Gisbert> [[PageList([^cC]ssh|secureshell)]]

I believe you need to preface it with "regex:" or some such to get it
recognized as a regular expression.  See:

    http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/SearchSyntaxChanged

Skip



From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Sep  7 07:29:19 2005
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Sep  7 07:29:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] strike through text
In-Reply-To: <76F1329A-1EF2-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <e1d4f8cd050906075738eff86f@mail.gmail.com> <76F1329A-1EF2-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <431F1FE3.8040303@gmx.de>

>>  is there a possibility to strike text, like in edgewall trac?
>> http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/WikiFormatting
>>
>>  they are saying the implement a "subset" of moinmoin tags, and they
>> ~~strike~~ like that.
> 
> Currently there is no markup for this, bug its planned for 2.0, maybe 1.5.

It will be in 1.5 and it will use --(striked text)--.

We considered some other markups, but all of them showed more false
positives.




From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  8 19:28:00 2005
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Thu Sep  8 19:28:00 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] moin_dump fails on Windows/XP with 1.3.5
Message-ID: <20050909022720.68576.qmail@web36214.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I had moin_dump running on 1.2.4, but I have been unable to get it
running on 1.3.5.

The http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinDump page does not seem to match
the output of the help from moin_dump.py.  The results I am getting
from the Windows command console follows.

Roger



C:\>cd \python23\lib\site-packages\moinmoin

C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin>python scripts\moin_dump.py
--config c:\h
ome\web\Moin\drawiki\wikiconfig.py c:\home\web\Moin\dump
Needed 0.039 secs.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\scripts\moin_dump.py",
line 183,
in ?
    run()
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\scripts\moin_dump.py",
line 180,
in run
    MoinDump().run()
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\scripts\_util.py", line
87, in ru
n
    self.mainloop()
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\scripts\moin_dump.py",
line 104,
in mainloop
    request = RequestCLI(self.options.wiki_url)
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line 1436,
in __init
__
    RequestBase.__init__(self, properties)
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line 87, in
__init__

    self._load_multi_cfg()
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line 163,
in _load_m
ulti_cfg
    self.cfg = multiconfig.getConfig(self.url)
  File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\multiconfig.py", line
58, in getC
onfig
    match = url_re().match(url)
TypeError: expected string or buffer

C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin>



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From nirs at actcom.net.il  Thu Sep  8 19:38:10 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Thu Sep  8 19:38:10 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] moin_dump fails on Windows/XP with 1.3.5
In-Reply-To: <20050909022720.68576.qmail@web36214.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20050909022720.68576.qmail@web36214.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9DFE2E9C-20DA-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 9 Sep, 2005, at 5:27, Roger Haase wrote:

> I had moin_dump running on 1.2.4, but I have been unable to get it
> running on 1.3.5.

True, the wiki page is not updated.

>
> The http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinDump page does not seem to match
> the output of the help from moin_dump.py.  The results I am getting
> from the Windows command console follows.

You should run it with wiki url, which something like localhost/mywiki/ 
and configuration directory which is something like you used.



Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  8 20:07:02 2005
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Thu Sep  8 20:07:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] moin_dump fails on Windows/XP with 1.3.5
In-Reply-To: <9DFE2E9C-20DA-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <20050909030553.51032.qmail@web36207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il> wrote:

> 
> On 9 Sep, 2005, at 5:27, Roger Haase wrote:
> 
> > I had moin_dump running on 1.2.4, but I have been unable to get it
> > running on 1.3.5.
> 
> True, the wiki page is not updated.
> 
> >
> > The http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinDump page does not seem to
> match
> > the output of the help from moin_dump.py.  The results I am getting
> > from the Windows command console follows.
> 
> You should run it with wiki url, which something like
> localhost/mywiki/ 
> and configuration directory which is something like you used.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Nir Soffer
> 

Thanks Nir, that works for me.

Roger


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From dirk.stichling at gmx.de  Fri Sep  9 00:54:11 2005
From: dirk.stichling at gmx.de (Dirk Stichling)
Date: Fri Sep  9 00:54:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Formatter
Message-ID: <26962.1126252426@www14.gmx.net>

Hi.

I want to write an own formatter, so I started with an empty one (similar to
pagelink.py, but with pagelink=null).
Then I created a WikiPage with only one drawing (TWiki-Java-Plugin). When I
now format that page with my new formatter I get the following output:

<a title="Edit drawing " href="/"></a>

This text is created in wiki.py (line 270 in moinmoin-1.3.5).

My question:
How can I prevent this text to be created?

Thanks,
Dirk



From Matthew.Warren at eon-uk.com  Fri Sep  9 02:29:09 2005
From: Matthew.Warren at eon-uk.com (Warren, Matthew (Corp))
Date: Fri Sep  9 02:29:09 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Failed install broken macros
Message-ID: <33C3DEE7361D394290F8CC76E3866638033F21ED@CORPHNXSEXV01.corp.pg.eon.net>

Hi people,

I have recentlyposted regarding broken macro's.

I have since tried a complete win32 moin 1.3.4 apache2 CGI install from
the ground up, following instructions in the MoinMoinWiki letter by
letter, and still get the same problem.

To see my problem,

Goto http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwiki

And try a search, and then try to login and observe the raw macro links
as text on the page.

One thing I noticed, after following the install steps letter by letter
(I swear !) I created a wiki at c:\moin\tsmwiki but when trying to view
this Apache logs showed an error moin.CGI not found at
c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki, so I had to reate an intermediate tsmwiki
directory to get it to work (giving
c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data,underlay etc..).  I cannot track down
anywhere the second tsmwiki dir reference is coming from

An action=test gives the following output;

Release 1.3.4
Revision 1.3.4 release
Python version 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit
(Intel)]
Python installed to C:\python24
PyXML is installed
Python Path:
   c:/moin/lib/site-packages
   c:/moin/lib/site-packages/
   c:/moin/tsmwiki/tsmwiki/
   C:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki
   C:\WINDOWS\system32\python24.zip
   C:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki
   C:\python24\DLLs
   C:\python24\lib
   C:\python24\lib\plat-win
   C:\python24\lib\lib-tk
   C:\python24
   C:\python24\lib\site-packages
Checking directories...
    data directory tests OK (set to 'c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data')
    user directory tests OK (set to 'c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data\user')

Server Environment:
    ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST!

Unit Tests:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ran 0 tests in 0.000s

OK



Any help or clues would be much appreciated.

Apologies for the disclaimer on this email, I am unable to remove it or
use an alternate email address.

Thankyou,

Matthew Warren.










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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Fri Sep  9 04:26:20 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Fri Sep  9 04:26:20 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Failed install broken macros
References: <33C3DEE7361D394290F8CC76E3866638033F21ED@CORPHNXSEXV01.corp.pg.eon.net>
Message-ID: <167g0wu2vr2m1$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:28:21 +0100, Warren, Matthew (Corp) wrote:

> I have recentlyposted regarding broken macro's.
> 
> I have since tried a complete win32 moin 1.3.4 apache2 CGI install from
> the ground up, following instructions in the MoinMoinWiki letter by
> letter, and still get the same problem.

Where is does your MoinMoin directory reside? Which sys.path changes do you
do in the moin.cgi file?

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Fri Sep  9 04:33:01 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Fri Sep  9 04:33:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Formatter
References: <26962.1126252426@www14.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <c482d19nyvb8.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 09:53:46 +0200 (MEST), Dirk Stichling wrote:

> This text is created in wiki.py (line 270 in moinmoin-1.3.5).
> 
> How can I prevent this text to be created?

This is a bug in wiki.py. Please file it on
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs

For a quick fix, you have to add a formatter kwarg (and pass
self.formatter) to the linktag call in the wiki.py file.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu  Fri Sep  9 06:25:09 2005
From: Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu (Hiers, Richard)
Date: Fri Sep  9 06:25:09 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
Message-ID: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEA78@phil.covenantseminary.edu>

I have a wikiname "BlogArchive/2005-09-09" that does not work.  Clicking
on the link takes me to the BlogArchive page, but not the
BlogArchive/2005-09-09 page.

Why is this?

Richard Hiers
Director of IT Services
Covenant Theological Seminary
314.434.4044 



From James.Wagner at mci.com  Fri Sep  9 06:40:01 2005
From: James.Wagner at mci.com (James Wagner)
Date: Fri Sep  9 06:40:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
In-Reply-To:  <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEA78@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
Message-ID: <002e01c5b543$cf5ea5d0$10169283@mcilink.com>

Did you escape it? That does not follow the CamelCase rules, so to make it a
link you have to use

	See ["BlogArchive/2005-09-09"] for more info

It only picks up the first part because BlogArchive is the part that is
CamelCase.

James.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Hiers, Richard
> Sent: Friday, 09-Sep-2005 7:24 AM
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
> 
> 
> I have a wikiname "BlogArchive/2005-09-09" that does not 
> work.  Clicking on the link takes me to the BlogArchive page, 
> but not the BlogArchive/2005-09-09 page.
> 
> Why is this?
> 
> Richard Hiers
> Director of IT Services
> Covenant Theological Seminary
> 314.434.4044 
> 
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From nirs at actcom.net.il  Fri Sep  9 08:05:09 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Fri Sep  9 08:05:09 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Failed install broken macros
In-Reply-To: <33C3DEE7361D394290F8CC76E3866638033F21ED@CORPHNXSEXV01.corp.pg.eon.net>
References: <33C3DEE7361D394290F8CC76E3866638033F21ED@CORPHNXSEXV01.corp.pg.eon.net>
Message-ID: <C3A3E328-2142-11DA-B7E9-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

Some of the macros are broken, seems like your install is corrupted.

First make sure your disk is ok, then install new fresh copy of 
MoinMoin 1.3.5. Your existing wiki pages will not be effected.


On 9 Sep, 2005, at 12:28, Warren, Matthew (Corp) wrote:

> Hi people,
>
> I have recentlyposted regarding broken macro?s.
>
> I have since tried a complete win32 moin 1.3.4 apache2 CGI install 
> from the ground up, following instructions in the MoinMoinWiki letter 
> by letter, and still get the same problem.
>
> To see my problem,
>
> Goto http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwiki
>
> And try a search, and then try to login and observe the raw macro 
> links as text on the page.
>
> One thing I noticed, after following the install steps letter by 
> letter (I swear !) I created a wiki at c:\moin\tsmwiki but when trying 
> to view this Apache logs showed an error moin.CGI not found at 
> c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki, so I had to reate an intermediate tsmwiki 
> directory to get it to work (giving 
> c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data,underlay etc..).? I cannot track down 
> anywhere the second tsmwiki dir reference is coming from
>
> An action=test gives the following output;
>
> Release 1.3.4
>
> Revision 1.3.4 release
>
> Python version 2.4 (#60, Nov 30 2004, 11:49:19) [MSC v.1310 32 bit 
> (Intel)]
>
> Python installed to C:\python24
>
> PyXML is installed
>
> Python Path:
>
> ?? c:/moin/lib/site-packages
>
> ?? c:/moin/lib/site-packages/
>
> ?? c:/moin/tsmwiki/tsmwiki/
>
> ?? C:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki
>
> ?? C:\WINDOWS\system32\python24.zip
>
> ?? C:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki
>
> ?? C:\python24\DLLs
>
> ?? C:\python24\lib
>
> ?? C:\python24\lib\plat-win
>
> ?? C:\python24\lib\lib-tk
>
> ?? C:\python24
>
> ?? C:\python24\lib\site-packages
>
> Checking directories...
>
> ??? data directory tests OK (set to 'c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data')
>
> ??? user directory tests OK (set to 
> 'c:\moin\tsmwiki\tsmwiki\data\user')
>
> Server Environment:
>
> ??? ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST!
>
> Unit Tests:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ran 0 tests in 0.000s
>
> OK
>
>
>
> Any help or clues would be much appreciated.
>
> Apologies for the disclaimer on this email, I am unable to remove it 
> or use an alternate email address.
>
> Thankyou,
>
> Matthew Warren.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu  Fri Sep  9 08:05:33 2005
From: Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu (Hiers, Richard)
Date: Fri Sep  9 08:05:33 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
Message-ID: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEACC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>

Thanks for the response

James:
I did try escaping the name, but when I do none of it is treated as a
wikiname, not even the first part.

Christian:
The names are being created by the [[MonthCalendar]] macro.  I tried
modifying the code of MonthCalendar.py to replace the "-" with a "_" or
a ".", but those changes created other linking problems.

Any other ideas?
Thanks
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian SCHWARZ [mailto:christian.schwarz at st.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:43 AM
To: Hiers, Richard
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working

Hi,

a slash "/" in the wikiname creates a subdirectory, thus two different
wikinames, BlogArchive and 2005-09-09. You will be taken to the first
part, before the separation symbol..
The solution is to not use special characters if possible.

cheers,
Christian

Hiers, Richard wrote:
> I have a wikiname "BlogArchive/2005-09-09" that does not work.  
> Clicking on the link takes me to the BlogArchive page, but not the
> BlogArchive/2005-09-09 page.
> 
> Why is this?
> 
> Richard Hiers
> Director of IT Services
> Covenant Theological Seminary
> 314.434.4044
> 
> 
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From James.Wagner at mci.com  Fri Sep  9 08:43:02 2005
From: James.Wagner at mci.com (James Wagner)
Date: Fri Sep  9 08:43:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
In-Reply-To:  <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEACC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
Message-ID: <000601c5b554$f89a9dd0$959022a6@mcilink.com>

Hmm... the following works just fine for me in the desktop version, and in
1.2* on linux:

 * ["SomeMeeting/2005-09-06"]

I use it all the time. I don't remember if anything needs to be turned on to
allow escaping. And I do use this to link to pages created by the
[[MonthCalendar]] macro.

James.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net 
> [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of 
> Hiers, Richard
> Sent: Friday, 09-Sep-2005 9:04 AM
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
> 
> 
> Thanks for the response
> 
> James:
> I did try escaping the name, but when I do none of it is 
> treated as a wikiname, not even the first part.
> 
> Christian:
> The names are being created by the [[MonthCalendar]] macro.  
> I tried modifying the code of MonthCalendar.py to replace the 
> "-" with a "_" or a ".", but those changes created other 
> linking problems.
> 
> Any other ideas?
> Thanks
> Richard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian SCHWARZ [mailto:christian.schwarz at st.com] 
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:43 AM
> To: Hiers, Richard
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
> 
> Hi,
> 
> a slash "/" in the wikiname creates a subdirectory, thus two 
> different wikinames, BlogArchive and 2005-09-09. You will be 
> taken to the first part, before the separation symbol.. The 
> solution is to not use special characters if possible.
> 
> cheers,
> Christian
> 
> Hiers, Richard wrote:
> > I have a wikiname "BlogArchive/2005-09-09" that does not work.
> > Clicking on the link takes me to the BlogArchive page, but not the
> > BlogArchive/2005-09-09 page.
> > 
> > Why is this?
> > 
> > Richard Hiers
> > Director of IT Services
> > Covenant Theological Seminary
> > 314.434.4044
> > 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
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From Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu  Fri Sep  9 09:29:01 2005
From: Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu (Hiers, Richard)
Date: Fri Sep  9 09:29:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
Message-ID: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEB1B@phil.covenantseminary.edu>

Thanks James.  The wiki name you provided below works just fine for me
as well.  In fact I've tried several other date combinations (09/07,
09/08, 09/010, 10/10, 2006/09/09) and they all work fine.  But as soon
as I make it 09/09, the link goes the date part of the link disappears
leaving only BlogArchive linked.

Weird.
Any thoughts on why this would be?
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: James Wagner [mailto:James.Wagner at mci.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:42 AM
To: Hiers, Richard; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working

Hmm... the following works just fine for me in the desktop version, and
in
1.2* on linux:

 * ["SomeMeeting/2005-09-06"]

I use it all the time. I don't remember if anything needs to be turned
on to allow escaping. And I do use this to link to pages created by the
[[MonthCalendar]] macro.

James.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Hiers, 
> Richard
> Sent: Friday, 09-Sep-2005 9:04 AM
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
> 
> 
> Thanks for the response
> 
> James:
> I did try escaping the name, but when I do none of it is treated as a 
> wikiname, not even the first part.
> 
> Christian:
> The names are being created by the [[MonthCalendar]] macro.  
> I tried modifying the code of MonthCalendar.py to replace the "-" with

> a "_" or a ".", but those changes created other linking problems.
> 
> Any other ideas?
> Thanks
> Richard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian SCHWARZ [mailto:christian.schwarz at st.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:43 AM
> To: Hiers, Richard
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Wikiname not working
> 
> Hi,
> 
> a slash "/" in the wikiname creates a subdirectory, thus two different

> wikinames, BlogArchive and 2005-09-09. You will be taken to the first 
> part, before the separation symbol.. The solution is to not use 
> special characters if possible.
> 
> cheers,
> Christian
> 
> Hiers, Richard wrote:
> > I have a wikiname "BlogArchive/2005-09-09" that does not work.
> > Clicking on the link takes me to the BlogArchive page, but not the
> > BlogArchive/2005-09-09 page.
> > 
> > Why is this?
> > 
> > Richard Hiers
> > Director of IT Services
> > Covenant Theological Seminary
> > 314.434.4044
> > 
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference & EXPO 
> > September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle 
> > Practices Agile & Plan-Driven Development * Managing
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> > * Testing & QA Security * Process Improvement & Measurement * 
> > http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf 
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From duaw at gmx.de  Fri Sep  9 15:55:34 2005
From: duaw at gmx.de (Dr. Uwe Werner)
Date: Fri Sep  9 15:55:34 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Macros with Page Titles
Message-ID: <52D4AFB4-3A18-4F51-8238-E95094CDE732@gmx.de>

Hello everybody,

I use non-CamelCase a lot for nicer appearance, better readability of  
pages.  Unfortunately, it seems that some macros related to the Title  
of a page fail:
-- [[OrphanedPages]] reports existing pages missing when a link is  
disguised (btw: all pages created by Calendar)
-- [[WantedPages]] claims the page linked to with  
["Peters's_Internship"] is missing although it is there and the link  
works.
-- clicking on the Title (a full search with ' linkto:"name-of-a- 
title" ' ) fails to show pages with links whenever the link is  
disguised.

Particulary the last point is most annoying, depriving me of one of  
the most powerful features of the wiki.

Now the (obvious) QUESTION:  Is it possible to remedy that (mis-)  
behavior?  I use Moin 1.3.5 .  Is there something on the horizon for  
future versions?

BTW, I make use of [:name-of-a-page/optional-name-of-a-subpage:this- 
text-is-shown] to disguise links to pages, and ["name-of-the-page"]   
to insert links to arbitrarily named page.

Regards, uw.





From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Fri Sep  9 16:09:09 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Fri Sep  9 16:09:09 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Macros with Page Titles
References: <52D4AFB4-3A18-4F51-8238-E95094CDE732@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <emsmjknyrtmp$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:54:38 -0400, Dr. Uwe Werner wrote:

> -- [[OrphanedPages]] reports existing pages missing when a link is  
> disguised (btw: all pages created by Calendar)

This is a bug in the calendar, not related to your non-camelcase links.

> -- [[WantedPages]] claims the page linked to with  
> ["Peters's_Internship"] is missing although it is there and the link  
> works.

This is related to page name normalisation and a known issue. Try to avoid
underscores to mitigate the problem.

> Now the (obvious) QUESTION:  Is it possible to remedy that (mis-)  
> behavior?  I use Moin 1.3.5 .  Is there something on the horizon for  
> future versions?

Check if the bug about the calendar is filed, the last one should be
already filed on the wiki. If they are filed, we will fix them :-)

Kind regards,
Alexander




From fdrake at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 01:14:33 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Sat Sep 10 01:14:33 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Using reStructuredText for an entire wiki
Message-ID: <9cee7ab8050910011311d99521@mail.gmail.com>

Appearantly a few people have been using the reStructuredText support
for most of their wiki content.  I'd like to use reStructuredText for
a wiki I'm setting up, and have it set as the default markup (since
that's what makes sense to me).

Unfortunately, any other contributors are going to be looking at help
text that deals primarily with the original MoinMoin markup.  Has
anyone created new initial content for a reStructuredText-centric
wiki?  It would be painful to have to start from scratch, though I'd
be happy to contribute to an effort to do so.

Thanks!


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From soloturn at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 10:32:40 2005
From: soloturn at gmail.com (solo turn)
Date: Sat Sep 10 10:32:40 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] trac wiki parser for moinmoin
Message-ID: <e1d4f8cd050910103123a4e3ae@mail.gmail.com>

would it be possible to use the trac wiki parser for moinmoin, and the other 
way round?

-solo.
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From fdrake at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 14:50:01 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Sat Sep 10 14:50:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Themes, #prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ directory
Message-ID: <9cee7ab805091014481761b09b@mail.gmail.com>

The installation and configuration instructions at

    http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/WikiInstanceCreation

don't state that I should copy the $prefix/share/moin/htdocs/
directory to be part of my instance, so I haven't.  I'd like to create
a theme for my site so it fits with the other parts of my site.  But a
theme appears to need not only a Python module in my wiki instance,
but also two directories in the $prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ tree.

Am I missing something about how a theme can be defined?  I'd like to
have a single place that defines a theme?  I'd like to be able to have
a theme that's shared across a wiki farm, rather than just a single
wiki, but I don't want to store it inside the MoinMoin installation,
since that makes it more difficult to switch between versions of the
software (each version getting it's own prefix inside the opt/ tree).

Thanks!


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Sat Sep 10 15:25:00 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Sat Sep 10 15:25:00 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Themes, #prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ directory
In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab805091014481761b09b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9cee7ab805091014481761b09b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8993BDE0-2249-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 11 Sep, 2005, at 0:48, Fred Drake wrote:

> The installation and configuration instructions at
>
>     
> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/WikiInstanceCreation
>
> don't state that I should copy the $prefix/share/moin/htdocs/
> directory to be part of my instance, so I haven't.

Good.

> I'd like to create
> a theme for my site so it fits with the other parts of my site.  But a
> theme appears to need not only a Python module in my wiki instance,
> but also two directories in the $prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ tree.

Correct in most cases.

If you want to change the behavior of your theme, but use the same 
"look" as another theme, you don't have to create a new theme 
directory.
See example of such theme at 
<http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ModernCmsTheme>.

> Am I missing something about how a theme can be defined?  I'd like to
> have a single place that defines a theme?

Its not possible currently, as theme has two parts, code and static 
files. Static files are installed in your 
prefix/share/moin/htdocs/theme, usually accessible at 
<http://localhost/wiki/theme>

> I'd like to be able to have
> a theme that's shared across a wiki farm, rather than just a single
> wiki, but I don't want to store it inside the MoinMoin installation,
> since that makes it more difficult to switch between versions of the
> software (each version getting it's own prefix inside the opt/ tree).

Currently there is no farm plugin directory. Until we have one, you 
have to install theme files in all the wikis, or use 
symlinks/hardlinks.

The shared files of each theme should be at the htdocs directory, if 
you want to share them with multiple versions of moin, you can copy or 
link them from one location.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Sat Sep 10 17:20:12 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Sat Sep 10 17:20:12 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Using reStructuredText for an entire wiki
References: <9cee7ab8050910011311d99521@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bi639zh70ia9$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:13:05 -0400, Fred Drake wrote:

> Unfortunately, any other contributors are going to be looking at help
> text that deals primarily with the original MoinMoin markup.  Has
> anyone created new initial content for a reStructuredText-centric
> wiki?  It would be painful to have to start from scratch, though I'd
> be happy to contribute to an effort to do so.

Which kind of documentation/help texts are you missing? Many things apply
to a rst-wiki as well, most markup things are just missing in ReST. And
those missing things are described in documents that deal with ReST
(written by other people to explain ReST), like in the primer that is in
the help pages (search for primer).

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Sat Sep 10 17:41:14 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Sat Sep 10 17:41:14 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: trac wiki parser for moinmoin
References: <e1d4f8cd050910103123a4e3ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1122pkh1kfkh$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:31:52 +0200, solo turn wrote:

> would it be possible to use the trac wiki parser for moinmoin, and the other 
> way round?

I am sure that integrating the trac parser into MoinMoin would be quite
easy to any Python programmer.

Kind regards,
Alexander

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From fdrake at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 20:15:17 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Sat Sep 10 20:15:17 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Using reStructuredText for an entire wiki
In-Reply-To: <bi639zh70ia9$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
References: <9cee7ab8050910011311d99521@mail.gmail.com>
	 <bi639zh70ia9$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <9cee7ab8050910201338695833@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/10/05, Alexander Schremmer <2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de> wrote:
> Which kind of documentation/help texts are you missing? Many things apply
> to a rst-wiki as well, most markup things are just missing in ReST. And
> those missing things are described in documents that deal with ReST
> (written by other people to explain ReST), like in the primer that is in
> the help pages (search for primer).

The biggest issue isn't so much that help pages aren't available, but
that things like the edit view for a page include help text that's
syntax dependent.  I just found in the code where that text is added;
it looks like it won't be a matter of configuring an installation to
change that.  MoinMoin.PageEditor.PageEditor is a huge chunk of code
to copy for what seems like should be a simple customization, but that
looks like I'll have to do something like that.

I'm brand new to the MoinMoin code; is there a structural overview
written up somewhere?  Is this something that a plugin should be able
to handle, or some other form of extension that's already supported?


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From fdrake at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 20:42:01 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Sat Sep 10 20:42:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Themes, #prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ directory
In-Reply-To: <8993BDE0-2249-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <9cee7ab805091014481761b09b@mail.gmail.com>
	 <8993BDE0-2249-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <9cee7ab8050910204130d07ec6@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/10/05, Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il> wrote:
> If you want to change the behavior of your theme, but use the same
> "look" as another theme, you don't have to create a new theme
> directory.

Actually, I think I want both behavioral and presentation changes,
eventually.  I'll start with presentation for now, as much as
possible.

> > Am I missing something about how a theme can be defined?  I'd like to
> > have a single place that defines a theme?
> 
> Its not possible currently, as theme has two parts, code and static
> files. Static files are installed in your
> prefix/share/moin/htdocs/theme, usually accessible at
> <http://localhost/wiki/theme>

Right.  Should these files be static across MoinMoin releases, or are
they release-specific?

> Currently there is no farm plugin directory. Until we have one, you
> have to install theme files in all the wikis, or use
> symlinks/hardlinks.

Symlinks create a little bit of pain, but less than having copies of
everything to keep in sync.  I've moved the entire data/plugin/
directory to a shared location and added a symlink for now.  Thanks
for the hint!

> The shared files of each theme should be at the htdocs directory, if
> you want to share them with multiple versions of moin, you can copy or
> link them from one location.

Guess that'll be the plan here as well; looks like only one more
symlink is needed.

Thanks!


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Sat Sep 10 20:45:02 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Sat Sep 10 20:45:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Using reStructuredText for an entire wiki
In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab8050910201338695833@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9cee7ab8050910011311d99521@mail.gmail.com> <bi639zh70ia9$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> <9cee7ab8050910201338695833@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4150A642-2276-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 11 Sep, 2005, at 6:13, Fred Drake wrote:

> The biggest issue isn't so much that help pages aren't available, but
> that things like the edit view for a page include help text that's
> syntax dependent.  I just found in the code where that text is added;
> it looks like it won't be a matter of configuring an installation to
> change that.  MoinMoin.PageEditor.PageEditor is a huge chunk of code
> to copy for what seems like should be a simple customization, but that
> looks like I'll have to do something like that.

PageEditor is not the most beautiful piece of code :)

We plan to move the display code to the theme, and leave the editor 
logic in PageEditor. Done properly, one will be able to override single 
method to replace the help text, or edit the css to change the location 
and look of this text.

That help text could be part of the parser. Each parser should provide 
the basic help for its syntax. Then you will get automatically the help 
text for the current #format, or the wiki default_format.

> I'm brand new to the MoinMoin code; is there a structural overview
> written up somewhere?  Is this something that a plugin should be able
> to handle, or some other form of extension that's already supported?

There are MoinDev* pages in the wiki.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From nirs at actcom.net.il  Sat Sep 10 20:50:01 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Sat Sep 10 20:50:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Themes, #prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ directory
In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab8050910204130d07ec6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9cee7ab805091014481761b09b@mail.gmail.com> <8993BDE0-2249-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il> <9cee7ab8050910204130d07ec6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C7CA12C-2277-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 11 Sep, 2005, at 6:41, Fred Drake wrote:

>>> Am I missing something about how a theme can be defined?  I'd like to
>>> have a single place that defines a theme?
>>
>> Its not possible currently, as theme has two parts, code and static
>> files. Static files are installed in your
>> prefix/share/moin/htdocs/theme, usually accessible at
>> <http://localhost/wiki/theme>
>
> Right.  Should these files be static across MoinMoin releases, or are
> they release-specific?

CSS files usually get small fixes.

>
>> Currently there is no farm plugin directory. Until we have one, you
>> have to install theme files in all the wikis, or use
>> symlinks/hardlinks.
>
> Symlinks create a little bit of pain, but less than having copies of
> everything to keep in sync.  I've moved the entire data/plugin/
> directory to a shared location and added a symlink for now.  Thanks
> for the hint!

Farm plugin directory will be available soon :)


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From fdrake at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 21:03:02 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Sat Sep 10 21:03:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Themes, #prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ directory
In-Reply-To: <0C7CA12C-2277-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <9cee7ab805091014481761b09b@mail.gmail.com>
	 <8993BDE0-2249-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
	 <9cee7ab8050910204130d07ec6@mail.gmail.com>
	 <0C7CA12C-2277-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <9cee7ab80509102102616490ef@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/10/05, Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il> wrote:
> CSS files usually get small fixes.

Make sense; it's still hard to support real browsers and MSIE too.  :-(

> Farm plugin directory will be available soon :)

Woohoo!  My first software upgrade even before I open the wiki!  :-) 
How stable are things between releases these days?  Should I be
particularly wary, or are the stored data structures stable?

I'll have to find time to read those MoinDev* pages over the next
week, but I've got some writing to do tonight still.


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Sat Sep 10 21:18:02 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Sat Sep 10 21:18:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Themes, #prefix/share/moin/htdocs/ directory
In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80509102102616490ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9cee7ab805091014481761b09b@mail.gmail.com> <8993BDE0-2249-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il> <9cee7ab8050910204130d07ec6@mail.gmail.com> <0C7CA12C-2277-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il> <9cee7ab80509102102616490ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1A78204-227A-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 11 Sep, 2005, at 7:02, Fred Drake wrote:

> Woohoo!  My first software upgrade even before I open the wiki!  :-)
> How stable are things between releases these days?  Should I be
> particularly wary, or are the stored data structures stable?

1.3 was a major change including new storage format, complete Unicode 
support and new configuration system, and the upgrade was painful. 1.3 
bug fix releases are quite stable and require usually a simple install.

I don't know if there will be another 1.3 release before 1.5. Anyway 
you can always get the latest code with tla. 
<http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinDev/TlaGuide>

1.5 should be a bigger upgrade, you can see what is planned here:
<http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo/Release_1.5>


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From skip at pobox.com  Sun Sep 11 19:09:03 2005
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Sun Sep 11 19:09:03 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
Message-ID: <17188.58131.509426.483989@montanaro.dyndns.org>

For various reasons (firewalls, authentication, connect speed, etc) it's
difficult for me to use Moin's drawing feature from my home computer
accessing the wiki at work.  I figured I could use Moin desktop edition to
edit the drawing locally, then just attach the .draw and .png files to the
relevant page on the wiki at work.

It seems that I can't use the drawing tool very well on my Mac from either
Safari or Firefox.  I'm not sure why.  I decided to step back and upload a
pair of existing .draw and .png files to my local Moin desktop edition.  No
go there either.  Are file attachments not supported by the desktop edition?

Thx,

-- 
Skip Montanaro
skip at pobox.com



From skip at pobox.com  Sun Sep 11 19:39:05 2005
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Sun Sep 11 19:39:05 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
In-Reply-To: <17188.58131.509426.483989@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <17188.58131.509426.483989@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <17188.59964.249788.586226@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    skip> I decided to step back and upload a pair of existing .draw and
    skip> .png files to my local Moin desktop edition.  No go there either.
    skip> Are file attachments not supported by the desktop edition?

I should point out that the symptoms I see are that the web server logs the
upload URL:

    montanaro.dyndns.org - - [11/Sep/2005 21:02:23] "POST /WikiSandBox HTTP/1.1" 200 -

but the browser never finishes.  It just spings its cursor indefinitely.

Skip



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Mon Sep 12 03:50:19 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Mon Sep 12 03:50:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
References: <17188.58131.509426.483989@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <1bp8zt27ruzkb.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:08:19 -0500, skip at pobox.com wrote:

> Are file attachments not supported by the desktop edition?

They are (normally :-)). Which version of the DesktopEdition are you using?
Cannot you upload any files at all?

Kind regards,
Alexander




From Tony.Garland at fluke.com  Mon Sep 12 07:37:25 2005
From: Tony.Garland at fluke.com (Garland, Tony)
Date: Mon Sep 12 07:37:25 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin-specific twikidraw.jar?
Message-ID: <732BE51FE9901143AE04411A11CC465607DB3314@evtexc02.tc.fluke.com>

I was able to obtain an updated twikidraw.jar file which included a modified
copy of StorableObject which strips out '\r' characters from the resulting
*.draw file. (You may recall that there is a problem trying to re-edit a
drawing when any of the text contains line feeds in it because the *.draw
file winds up with extraneous ^M codes embedded in it.)

The twikidraw.jar file was obtained from someone who I'm pretty sure is
using it with the twiki wiki (rather than MoinMoin) and it doesn't work
under MoinMoin. There seems to be a problem where the file name is not
understood by the jar file. When it writes out the drawing, the status
doesn't show any file name (just the suffixes) and no file shows up under
the attachments subdirectory for the page.

Does anyone know where I can obtain the java source files for the
twikidraw.jar version used in MoinMoin? Does the MoinMoin version contain
some modification which the original twikidraw.jar (from twiki.org) does not
-- which relates to handling the attachment file name?

Thanks.



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Mon Sep 12 09:37:20 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Mon Sep 12 09:37:20 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
In-Reply-To: <17188.59964.249788.586226@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <17188.58131.509426.483989@montanaro.dyndns.org> <17188.59964.249788.586226@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <5B0CB722-23AB-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 12 Sep, 2005, at 5:38, skip at pobox.com wrote:
>     skip> I decided to step back and upload a pair of existing .draw 
> and
>     skip> .png files to my local Moin desktop edition.  No go there 
> either.
>     skip> Are file attachments not supported by the desktop edition?
>
> I should point out that the symptoms I see are that the web server 
> logs the
> upload URL:
>
>     montanaro.dyndns.org - - [11/Sep/2005 21:02:23] "POST /WikiSandBox 
> HTTP/1.1" 200 -
>
> but the browser never finishes.  It just spings its cursor 
> indefinitely.

I can't help with twikidraw, but I wonder why you want to use such tool 
when you can use a tool like OmniGraffle 
<http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/>?


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From skip at pobox.com  Mon Sep 12 09:43:20 2005
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Mon Sep 12 09:43:20 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
In-Reply-To: <5B0CB722-23AB-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <17188.58131.509426.483989@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <17188.59964.249788.586226@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <5B0CB722-23AB-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <17189.45042.554036.447885@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    Nir> I can't help with twikidraw, but I wonder why you want to use such
    Nir> tool when you can use a tool like OmniGraffle
    Nir> <http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/>?

If I worked in a Mac-only environment (and that's what I have at home)
OmniGraffle would be fine, but this particular problem involves
communicating with my work environment, which is Solaris-based.  I agree
TwikiDraw is pretty darn feeble, but it's adequate, and everyone has it here
at the office.

Skip



From jh at web.de  Mon Sep 12 10:21:11 2005
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Mon Sep 12 10:21:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
In-Reply-To: <17189.45042.554036.447885@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <E1EEryJ-0005WJ-00@smtp05.web.de>

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:42:26 -0500, skip at pobox.com wrote:

>TwikiDraw is pretty darn feeble, but it's adequate, and everyone has it here
>at the office.

Look at contrib\TWikiDrawPlugin\build.xml in TLA (1.3 branch), this downloads 
and builds the relevant sources.

Ciao, J?rgen





From Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu  Mon Sep 12 19:30:19 2005
From: Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu (Hiers, Richard)
Date: Mon Sep 12 19:30:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
Message-ID: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>

On the MonthCalendar, when your mouse passes over a day which has a page
associated with it, you get a little pop up that displays any Heading 1
headings.  Is it possible to modify the MonthCalendar macro to display
Heading 2 headings instead?

Thanks

Richard Hiers
Director of IT Services
Covenant Theological Seminary
314.434.4044 



From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk  Tue Sep 13 00:19:12 2005
From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight)
Date: Tue Sep 13 00:19:12 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
In-Reply-To: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
References: 	 <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
Message-ID: <1126595889.29225.227.camel@beadnell.ncl.ac.uk>

On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 21:29 -0500, Hiers, Richard wrote:
> On the MonthCalendar, when your mouse passes over a day which has a page
> associated with it, you get a little pop up that displays any Heading 1
> headings.  Is it possible to modify the MonthCalendar macro to display
> Heading 2 headings instead?

Change line 465 from

header1_re = re.compile(r'^\s*=\s(.*)\s=$', re.MULTILINE) # re.UNICODE

to

header1_re = re.compile(r'^\s*==\s(.*)\s==$', re.MULTILINE) # re.UNICODE

It would be great if it could be done without having to modify the code,
and even better if the level could be chosen per call.

Jim





From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Sep 13 02:42:11 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Sep 13 02:42:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
In-Reply-To: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
References: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
Message-ID: <788C2DE0-243A-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 13 Sep, 2005, at 5:29, Hiers, Richard wrote:

> On the MonthCalendar, when your mouse passes over a day which has a 
> page
> associated with it, you get a little pop up that displays any Heading 1
> headings.  Is it possible to modify the MonthCalendar macro to display
> Heading 2 headings instead?

I wonder why you need this feature. Please describe how you work with 
this tool and why heading level 1 do not fit your use.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From skip at pobox.com  Tue Sep 13 04:16:11 2005
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Tue Sep 13 04:16:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
In-Reply-To: <788C2DE0-243A-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
        <788C2DE0-243A-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <17190.46306.418725.24802@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    >> On the MonthCalendar, when your mouse passes over a day which has a
    >> page associated with it, you get a little pop up that displays any
    >> Heading 1 headings.  Is it possible to modify the MonthCalendar macro
    >> to display Heading 2 headings instead?

    Nir> I wonder why you need this feature. Please describe how you work
    Nir> with this tool and why heading level 1 do not fit your use.

I'll take a stab at it based on my observations of how headings are used.
Many times the settings for the browser or the CSS make level 1 headings
simply way too large (this is a common problem in my experience and is
certainly not Moin-specific), so people start their documents with level 2.
At work I also see people use lower-level headings to simply bold a line of
text.  I know neither is correct usage, but unfortunately that's life.

Skip




From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk  Tue Sep 13 05:02:19 2005
From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight)
Date: Tue Sep 13 05:02:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
In-Reply-To: <17190.46306.418725.24802@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: 	 <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
	 <788C2DE0-243A-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
	 <17190.46306.418725.24802@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <1126612866.29225.241.camel@beadnell.ncl.ac.uk>

On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 06:15 -0500, skip at pobox.com wrote:
>     >> On the MonthCalendar, when your mouse passes over a day which has a
>     >> page associated with it, you get a little pop up that displays any
>     >> Heading 1 headings.  Is it possible to modify the MonthCalendar macro
>     >> to display Heading 2 headings instead?
> 
>     Nir> I wonder why you need this feature. Please describe how you work
>     Nir> with this tool and why heading level 1 do not fit your use.
> 
> I'll take a stab at it based on my observations of how headings are used.
> Many times the settings for the browser or the CSS make level 1 headings
> simply way too large (this is a common problem in my experience and is
> certainly not Moin-specific), so people start their documents with level 2.

I'd second that. We use the feature with level 3 - and that's in a
custom theme with the font height already reduced.

Jim







From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Sep 13 05:42:00 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Sep 13 05:42:00 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
In-Reply-To: <17190.46306.418725.24802@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCEFAC@phil.covenantseminary.edu> <788C2DE0-243A-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il> <17190.46306.418725.24802@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <98AD69EA-2453-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 13 Sep, 2005, at 14:15, skip at pobox.com wrote:

>
>>> On the MonthCalendar, when your mouse passes over a day which has a
>>> page associated with it, you get a little pop up that displays any
>>> Heading 1 headings.  Is it possible to modify the MonthCalendar macro
>>> to display Heading 2 headings instead?
>
>     Nir> I wonder why you need this feature. Please describe how you 
> work
>     Nir> with this tool and why heading level 1 do not fit your use.
>
> I'll take a stab at it based on my observations of how headings are 
> used.
> Many times the settings for the browser or the CSS make level 1 
> headings
> simply way too large (this is a common problem in my experience and is
> certainly not Moin-specific), so people start their documents with 
> level 2.
> At work I also see people use lower-level headings to simply bold a 
> line of
> text.  I know neither is correct usage, but unfortunately that's life.

Maybe moin built in themes should come with smaller headings?

These are the current styles in modern (others use same or similar 
styles):

	h2, h3, h4, h5, h6
	{
		margin: 1.5em 0 0 0;
		padding: 0;
		color: black;
		line-height: 1.2em;
	}	

	h2 {font-size: 1.6em;}
	h3 {font-size: 1.3em;}
	h4 {font-size: 1.1em;}
	h5, h6 {font-size: 1em;}

h1 is used for the page title, = this = map to <h2>this</h2>.


We can never make everyone happy. We need a design that will make 80% 
users happy, and make it easy for the other 20% to customize.

A user can use its own css file, overriding the headings:
	h2 {font-size: 1.3em;}
	h3 {font-size: 1.1em;}
	h4, h5, h6 {font-size: 1em;}

This can be applied using user css field in UserPreferences, or by the 
browser user css. For example in Safari, Preferences:Advanced:Style 
Sheet menu.

Wiki admin can clone the site theme and change the css. If you want to 
serve multiple themes, you will have more work of course. We can solve 
this by using a site css file, so the admin can override all themes 
using one site.css file, and the user override both themes and site.css 
with its own user.css file.


In many places moin does not care about which headings you start with. 
For example, if you create this page:

[[TableOfContents]]

=== heading 1 ===

==== heading 2 ====

The toc will show:
  1. heading 1
    2. heading 2

MonthCalendar can parse pages in a similar way - show you the contents 
of the first headings used on the page, not hardcoded level 1 heading.



Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From Tony.Garland at fluke.com  Tue Sep 13 06:46:16 2005
From: Tony.Garland at fluke.com (Garland, Tony)
Date: Tue Sep 13 06:46:16 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
Message-ID: <732BE51FE9901143AE04411A11CC465607DB35B2@evtexc02.tc.fluke.com>

Subject: Re: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?

    Nir> I can't help with twikidraw, but I wonder why you want to use such
    Nir> tool when you can use a tool like OmniGraffle
    Nir> <http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/>?

Well, I can think of a few reasons: (1) not everyone is using a Mac; (2)
twikidraw is free; (3) twikidraw is minimally integrated with MoinMoin.

Incidentally, I was able to obtain a version of twikidraw sources which I
was able to patch to solve the embedded '\r' problem in text labels
containing newlines.  If anyone is interested, you can find it near the
bottom of this page:
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/OliverGraf/TWikiDrawPlugin

 - Tony



From Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu  Tue Sep 13 07:37:18 2005
From: Richard.Hiers at covenantseminary.edu (Hiers, Richard)
Date: Tue Sep 13 07:37:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
Message-ID: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCF064@phil.covenantseminary.edu>

I'm experimenting with a front page that includes a blog (using an
include calling pages created by MonthCalendar.  So on the front page I
have the following:

Latest News

Blog Entry 1
Blah blah blah.

Blog Entry 2
Blah blah blah.

I want my blog entry titles to be smaller than "Latest News" and "Latest
News" is H1.  But if I make the Blog entries H2, then the little tooltip
on MonthCalendar that show the preview titles on dates with pages does
not show anything.

Jim, thanks for the code change.  I'll try it later today.

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Nir Soffer [mailto:nirs at actcom.net.il] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:41 AM
To: Hiers, Richard
Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar


On 13 Sep, 2005, at 5:29, Hiers, Richard wrote:

> On the MonthCalendar, when your mouse passes over a day which has a 
> page associated with it, you get a little pop up that displays any 
> Heading 1 headings.  Is it possible to modify the MonthCalendar macro 
> to display Heading 2 headings instead?

I wonder why you need this feature. Please describe how you work with
this tool and why heading level 1 do not fit your use.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Sep 13 08:36:15 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Sep 13 08:36:15 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Modifying MonthCalendar
In-Reply-To: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCF064@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
References: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801BCF064@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
Message-ID: <EF7E1127-246B-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 13 Sep, 2005, at 17:36, Hiers, Richard wrote:

> Latest News
>
>
> Blog Entry 1
> Blah blah blah.
>
> Blog Entry 2
> Blah blah blah.
>
> I want my blog entry titles to be smaller than "Latest News" and 
> "Latest
> News" is H1.  But if I make the Blog entries H2, then the little 
> tooltip
> on MonthCalendar that show the preview titles on dates with pages does
> not show anything.

You can include the blog entries on a sub page, and include the sub 
page in the front page inside a table:

	= Latest News =
	Blah...

	||<tableclass="blog-entries"> [[Include(BlogEntries)]] ||


Now in your theme screen.css, add the the style for the table:

	.blog-entries h2 {font-size: 1.3em;} /* map h2 to h3 size */
	.blog-entries td {border: none;}


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From yusuf at apple.com  Tue Sep 13 11:47:11 2005
From: yusuf at apple.com (Yusuf Abdulghani)
Date: Tue Sep 13 11:47:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Q: Can I delete foreign-language help?
In-Reply-To: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801B77F44@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
References: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801B77F44@phil.covenantseminary.edu>
Message-ID: <3594C45B-9B4F-46F9-A770-CEA8E6F4922E@apple.com>

Hiers,

Thanks for providing this list. I used this list to move the foreign  
language pages to a different location. I discovered that you had  
missed four pages:

WikiName
TransparentTemplate
StartSide
HelpOnSlideShows\(2f\)900_Last_but_not_least\(3a\) 
_Running_your_presentation\(2e\)

I hope that the next version of MoinMoin has a feature to install on  
English pages.

Thanks.

Yusuf

On Aug 30, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Hiers, Richard wrote:

> I just deleted the foreign lang folders from the
> \moin\mywiki\underlay\pages directory (actually I moved them in case I
> made a mistake).  It wasn't too difficult to figure out which were not
> English, but here is the list of files I'm left with:
>
> AbandonedPages
> BadContent
> CategoryCategory
> CategoryHomepage
> CategoryTemplate
> DesktopEdition
> DesktopEdition(2f)HowToConfigure
> EditedSystemPages
> EventStats
> EventStats(2f)HitCounts
> EventStats(2f)UserAgents
> FindPage
> FortuneCookies
> FrontPage
> HelpContents
> HelpForBeginners
> HelpForDevelopers
> HelpIndex
> HelpMiscellaneous
> HelpMiscellaneous(2f)ExperimentalFeatures
> HelpMiscellaneous(2f)FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> HelpOnAccessControlLists
> HelpOnActions
> HelpOnActions(2f)AttachFile
> HelpOnAdministration
> HelpOnCategories
> HelpOnConfiguration
> HelpOnConfiguration(2f)ApacheVoodoo
> HelpOnConfiguration(2f)CascadingStyleSheets
> HelpOnConfiguration(2f)EmailSupport
> HelpOnConfiguration(2f)FileAttachments
> HelpOnConfiguration(2f)SecurityPolicy
> HelpOnEditing
> HelpOnEditing(2f)SubPages
> HelpOnEditLocks
> HelpOnFormatting
> HelpOnHeadlines
> HelpOnInstalling
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)ApacheOnLinux
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)ApacheOnLinuxFtp
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)ApacheOnMacOsx
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)ApacheOnWin32
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)ApacheWithFastCgi
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)ApacheWithModPython
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)BasicInstallation
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)InternetInformationServer
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)StandaloneServer
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)TroubleShooting
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)TwistedWeb
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)WebLogic
> HelpOnInstalling(2f)WikiInstanceCreation
> HelpOnLanguages
> HelpOnLinking
> HelpOnLists
> HelpOnMacros
> HelpOnMacros(2f)Include
> HelpOnMacros(2f)MailTo
> HelpOnNavigation
> HelpOnPageCreation
> HelpOnPageDeletion
> HelpOnParsers
> HelpOnParsers(2f)ReStructuredText
> HelpOnParsers(2f)ReStructuredText(2f)RstPrimer
> HelpOnProcessingInstructions
> HelpOnProcessors
> HelpOnRules
> HelpOnSearching
> HelpOnSkins
> HelpOnSlideShows
> HelpOnSlideShows(2f)000_Introduction
> HelpOnSlideShows(2f)100_Creating_the_slides
> HelpOnSlideShows(2f)900_Last_but_not_least(3a) 
> _Running_your_presentation
> (2e)
> HelpOnSmileys
> HelpOnSpellCheck
> HelpOnTables
> HelpOnThemes
> HelpOnUpdating
> HelpOnUpdatingPython
> HelpOnUserPreferences
> HelpOnXmlPages
> HelpTemplate
> HomepageTemplate
> InterWiki
> LocalBadContent
> LocalSpellingWords
> MissingPage
> MoinMoin
> MoinPagesEditorGroup
> OrphanedPages
> PageHits
> PageSize
> RandomPage
> RecentChanges
> SiteNavigation
> SlideShowHandOutTemplate
> SlideShowTemplate
> SlideTemplate
> SyntaxReference
> SystemInfo
> SystemPagesGroup
> SystemPagesInEnglishGroup
> TitleIndex
> UserPreferences
> WantedPages
> WhyWikiWorks
> WikiCourse
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)000_What_is_a_Wiki(3f)
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)050_First_Steps
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)060_How_do_I_navigate(3f)
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)090_The_Editor
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)091_Tips_on_the_Editor
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)100_Text_markup
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)110_Headlines_and_Paragraphs
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)130_Lists
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)150_Tables
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)180_Macros
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)191_Creating_new_Pages
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)195_Actions
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)200_Wikiquette
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)210_Organisation_and_Structure
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroduction(2f)900_Exercises
> WikiCourse(2f)BasicIntroductionHandOut
> WikiSandBox
> WikiWikiWeb
> WordIndex
>
> Hope that helps
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Douglas  
> Alan
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:20 PM
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Moin-user] Q: Can I delete foreign-language help?
>
> Hi.  Is there an easy way to delete all the foreign-language help?
> (Which, for me, means non-English.)  It really clutters up search
> results.
>
> |>oug
>
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From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Sep 13 11:52:23 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Sep 13 11:52:23 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Q: Can I delete foreign-language help?
In-Reply-To: <3594C45B-9B4F-46F9-A770-CEA8E6F4922E@apple.com>
References: <D7C098C5CEB2694FA43A9BFFB54CE39801B77F44@phil.covenantseminary.edu> <3594C45B-9B4F-46F9-A770-CEA8E6F4922E@apple.com>
Message-ID: <58891F18-2487-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 13 Sep, 2005, at 21:46, Yusuf Abdulghani wrote:

> I hope that the next version of MoinMoin has a feature to install on 
> English pages.

See http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/LanguagePackages


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From lee.james at ieee.org  Wed Sep 14 05:30:24 2005
From: lee.james at ieee.org (Lee James)
Date: Wed Sep 14 05:30:24 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] problem running setup
Message-ID: <005601c5b927$b2fe71d0$2800a8c0@lee1w72ynf6yyt>

I am trying to install moinmoin on my wind2K system.  I have python 2.4 installed and have been using it without incident for some time. 

I downloaded moin-1.3.5.tar.gz and followed the instructions in http://swapoff.org/HelpOnInstalling(2f)BasicInstallation.html until I reach the 
 
> python setup.py --quiet install --record=install.logline at which point python complains that it cannot find setup.py.  I cannot find setup.py either.  Is it supposed to be part of the distribution? What simple idea am I missing that is throwing me off track here?Lee James
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From soloturn at gmail.com  Wed Sep 14 10:01:02 2005
From: soloturn at gmail.com (solo turn)
Date: Wed Sep 14 10:01:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] httpd auth more open please
Message-ID: <e1d4f8cd050914095976c94b83@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

it would be great for enterprise integration, if moinmoin would be not so 
picky about AUTH_TYPE. somehow it should be possible to tell moinmoin that 
it should take the webserver user with auth-type. we have a 
plugin-authentication in the webserver, auth-type is not in moinmoin's list, 
but the user comes anyway in the REMOTE_USER header field.

twiki, trac wiki and others work fine with this setting.

-solo
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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Sep 15 02:48:20 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Sep 15 02:48:20 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: httpd auth more open please
References: <e1d4f8cd050914095976c94b83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u1f281qb82tj$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:59:49 +0200, solo turn wrote:

> it would be great for enterprise integration, if moinmoin would be not so 
> picky about AUTH_TYPE. somehow it should be possible to tell moinmoin that 
> it should take the webserver user with auth-type.

Nir, Thomas - do you know why we check this at all?

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Sep 15 02:53:09 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Sep 15 02:53:09 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: problem running setup
References: <005601c5b927$b2fe71d0$2800a8c0@lee1w72ynf6yyt>
Message-ID: <12rez0uu2sztg$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:27:35 -0400, Lee James wrote: 

> python setup.py --quiet install --record=install.logline at which point
> python complains that it cannot find setup.py.  I cannot find setup.py
> either.  Is it supposed to be part of the distribution?

Yes, it is directly in the tgz file. You must have deleted etc. it.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From lee.james at ieee.org  Thu Sep 15 03:58:28 2005
From: lee.james at ieee.org (Lee James)
Date: Thu Sep 15 03:58:28 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: problem running setup
References: <005601c5b927$b2fe71d0$2800a8c0@lee1w72ynf6yyt>  <12rez0uu2sztg$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <000501c5b9e4$05321ee0$2800a8c0@lee1w72ynf6yyt>

My problem was in fact an old version of WinRAR.  The obsolete version
overlooked the files for some reason, both when listing the content and when
extracting.  Thanks for the help.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexander Schremmer" <2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de>
To: <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:48 AM
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: problem running setup


> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:27:35 -0400, Lee James wrote:
>
> > python setup.py --quiet install --record=install.logline at which point
> > python complains that it cannot find setup.py.  I cannot find setup.py
> > either.  Is it supposed to be part of the distribution?
>
> Yes, it is directly in the tgz file. You must have deleted etc. it.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alexander
>
>
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From bkuczens at andrew.cmu.edu  Fri Sep 16 09:44:27 2005
From: bkuczens at andrew.cmu.edu (Brandon Kuczenski)
Date: Fri Sep 16 09:44:27 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Editing the Edit Page
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60-041.0509161241250.6572@unix43.andrew.cmu.edu>

Is it possible to edit the page that is displayed when editing a page?  I 
would like to add a few helpful formatting tips to the ones already 
listed (specifically, add the [:WikiPage: Desired Label For Page] syntax)

Thanks,
Brandon

-- 
Brandon Kuczenski
Department of Mechanical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University



From fdrake at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 11:29:01 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Fri Sep 16 11:29:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Editing the Edit Page
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60-041.0509161241250.6572@unix43.andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60-041.0509161241250.6572@unix43.andrew.cmu.edu>
Message-ID: <9cee7ab805091611273214ed8b@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/16/05, Brandon Kuczenski <bkuczens at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Is it possible to edit the page that is displayed when editing a page?  I
> would like to add a few helpful formatting tips to the ones already
> listed (specifically, add the [:WikiPage: Desired Label For Page] syntax)

I asked something similar not too long ago.  Appearantly, this is a
generally desired ability, at least as far as the help text goes, but
no implementation has been done yet.

It's possible to make changes here by hacking on the
MoinMoin.PageEditor module directly, which is what I ended up doing
since I don't have  time to play with and contribute to the CVS head
right now, though I think I see how something simple could be worked
out for the help text.

The MoinMoin.PageEditor module has a string literal in the
sendEditor() method; that's the place to make changes for now.  In my
case, my wiki isn't using the classic markup by default, so I simply
wrapped the help text generation with an 'if self.cfg.default_markup
== "wiki"' condition.


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Fri Sep 16 11:54:13 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Fri Sep 16 11:54:13 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Editing the Edit Page
In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab805091611273214ed8b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60-041.0509161241250.6572@unix43.andrew.cmu.edu> <9cee7ab805091611273214ed8b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <17634242-26E3-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 16 Sep, 2005, at 21:27, Fred Drake wrote:

> On 9/16/05, Brandon Kuczenski <bkuczens at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> Is it possible to edit the page that is displayed when editing a 
>> page?  I
>> would like to add a few helpful formatting tips to the ones already
>> listed (specifically, add the [:WikiPage: Desired Label For Page] 
>> syntax)
>
> I asked something similar not too long ago.  Appearantly, this is a
> generally desired ability, at least as far as the help text goes, but
> no implementation has been done yet.

No, editing the text you get when a page is missing is very easy. Just 
visit MissingPage or a translation of it in your language, and change 
the text as you like.

Note that if you edit this page, it will be copied into you data 
directory, and when you upgrade your wiki it will not be overwritten by 
a new version. If you want to go back and use the standard page, just 
delete your new page (More Actions: Delete Page).


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From fdrake at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 12:10:26 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Fri Sep 16 12:10:26 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Editing the Edit Page
In-Reply-To: <17634242-26E3-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60-041.0509161241250.6572@unix43.andrew.cmu.edu>
	 <9cee7ab805091611273214ed8b@mail.gmail.com>
	 <17634242-26E3-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <9cee7ab805091612084b28c367@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/16/05, Brandon Kuczenski <bkuczens at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Is it possible to edit the page that is displayed when editing a
> page?  I
> would like to add a few helpful formatting tips to the ones already
> listed (specifically, add the [:WikiPage: Desired Label For Page]
> syntax)

On 9/16/05, Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il> wrote:
> No, editing the text you get when a page is missing is very easy. Just
> visit MissingPage or a translation of it in your language, and change
> the text as you like.

Right, but Brandon seems to be asking about the help text on the
editing page.  Pages that exist in normal content space are perfectly
editable, but special views of content (like the PageEditor) are not,
at least in 1.3.5.


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Fri Sep 16 12:32:05 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Fri Sep 16 12:32:05 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Editing the Edit Page
In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab805091612084b28c367@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60-041.0509161241250.6572@unix43.andrew.cmu.edu> <9cee7ab805091611273214ed8b@mail.gmail.com> <17634242-26E3-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il> <9cee7ab805091612084b28c367@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5E5128B6-26E8-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 16 Sep, 2005, at 22:08, Fred Drake wrote:

> On 9/16/05, Brandon Kuczenski <bkuczens at andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> Is it possible to edit the page that is displayed when editing a
>> page?  I
>> would like to add a few helpful formatting tips to the ones already
>> listed (specifically, add the [:WikiPage: Desired Label For Page]
>> syntax)
>
> On 9/16/05, Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il> wrote:
>> No, editing the text you get when a page is missing is very easy. Just
>> visit MissingPage or a translation of it in your language, and change
>> the text as you like.
>
> Right, but Brandon seems to be asking about the help text on the
> editing page.  Pages that exist in normal content space are perfectly
> editable, but special views of content (like the PageEditor) are not,
> at least in 1.3.5.

Yea, from some reason I thought he talks about the missing page :)

I wonder if having a ParserEditorHelp page displayed inside the editor 
will solve the problem for in such cases.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From fdrake at gmail.com  Fri Sep 16 12:41:01 2005
From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake)
Date: Fri Sep 16 12:41:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Editing the Edit Page
In-Reply-To: <5E5128B6-26E8-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60-041.0509161241250.6572@unix43.andrew.cmu.edu>
	 <9cee7ab805091611273214ed8b@mail.gmail.com>
	 <17634242-26E3-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
	 <9cee7ab805091612084b28c367@mail.gmail.com>
	 <5E5128B6-26E8-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <9cee7ab80509161239762b2bb0@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/16/05, Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il> wrote:
> I wonder if having a ParserEditorHelp page displayed inside the editor
> will solve the problem for in such cases.

That would certainly help.  I think there are (at least) two axes of
variation that affect what should happen by default:

- the markup language for the page (default for new pages, current for
existing pages)

- the user's language (as negotiated with the browser), or maybe using
the page's current language or the wiki's default language

I'm not sure what the best way would be to handle both of these in a
way that can easily be adjusted within the wiki's content space.


  -Fred

-- 
Fred L. Drake, Jr.    <fdrake at gmail.com>



From skip at pobox.com  Fri Sep 16 14:16:21 2005
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Fri Sep 16 14:16:21 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] drawings & attachments with desktop edition?
In-Reply-To: <200509161551.33303.jeffs@fomsystems.com>
References: <17188.58131.509426.483989@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <17188.59964.249788.586226@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <200509161551.33303.jeffs@fomsystems.com>
Message-ID: <17195.13936.2338.591850@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    >> I should point out that the symptoms I see are that the web server
    >> logs the upload URL:
    ...
    >> but the browser never finishes.  It just spings its cursor indefinitely.
    >> 
    >> Skip

    Jeff> What java jre/jdk are you using?  I had problems like you describe
    Jeff> until I switched to the Blackdown jre, now everything works just
    Jeff> fine.

Nothing fancy.  I finally figured it out last night.  I switched from Python
CVS to Python 2.3 and it worked fine.  It's probably some change since 2.3
to SimpleHTTPserver or something it relies on.  I didn't investigate
further.

Skip




From tomasz at grobelny.oswiecenia.net  Sun Sep 18 12:41:18 2005
From: tomasz at grobelny.oswiecenia.net (Tomasz Grobelny)
Date: Sun Sep 18 12:41:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] select language
Message-ID: <200509182140.28425.tomasz@grobelny.oswiecenia.net>

How do I force moinmoin to use selected language? I set both default_lang = 
'pl' in config file and appropriate language in user preferences but still in 
the menu UserPreferences are used instead of Polish translation 
PreferencjeU?ytkownika. Same happens for MissingPage and other system pages. 
Moinmoin version 1.3.5. TIA
-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Grobelny



From nirs at actcom.net.il  Sun Sep 18 12:54:02 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Sun Sep 18 12:54:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] select language
In-Reply-To: <200509182140.28425.tomasz@grobelny.oswiecenia.net>
References: <200509182140.28425.tomasz@grobelny.oswiecenia.net>
Message-ID: <C2C4E9D9-287D-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

On 18 Sep, 2005, at 22:40, Tomasz Grobelny wrote:

> How do I force moinmoin to use selected language? I set both 
> default_lang =
> 'pl' in config file and appropriate language in user preferences but 
> still in
> the menu UserPreferences are used instead of Polish translation
> PreferencjeU?ytkownika. Same happens for MissingPage and other system 
> pages.
> Moinmoin version 1.3.5. TIA

Maybe you forgot to restart the web server or moin server after 
changing the configuration?


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From tomasz at grobelny.oswiecenia.net  Sun Sep 18 14:58:07 2005
From: tomasz at grobelny.oswiecenia.net (Tomasz Grobelny)
Date: Sun Sep 18 14:58:07 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] select language
In-Reply-To: <C2C4E9D9-287D-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
References: <200509182140.28425.tomasz@grobelny.oswiecenia.net> <C2C4E9D9-287D-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <200509182357.27748.tomasz@grobelny.oswiecenia.net>

Dnia niedziela 18 wrze?nia 2005 21:52, Nir Soffer napisa?:
> On 18 Sep, 2005, at 22:40, Tomasz Grobelny wrote:
> > How do I force moinmoin to use selected language? I set both
> > default_lang =
> > 'pl' in config file and appropriate language in user preferences but
> > still in
> > the menu UserPreferences are used instead of Polish translation
> > PreferencjeU?ytkownika. Same happens for MissingPage and other system
> > pages.
> > Moinmoin version 1.3.5. TIA
>
> Maybe you forgot to restart the web server 
After changing configuration file refreshing page was enough.

> or moin server after changing the configuration?
What is a moin server? 

What came to my mind: how does moinmoin know that PreferencjeU?ytkownika is 
equivalent to UserPreferences? Is it written on any special page?
What I noticed: the translation seems to work fine for German. What's wrong 
with Polish translation?
-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Grobelny



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Mon Sep 19 03:44:06 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Mon Sep 19 03:44:06 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: select language
References: <200509182140.28425.tomasz@grobelny.oswiecenia.net> <C2C4E9D9-287D-11DA-AA66-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il> <200509182357.27748.tomasz@grobelny.oswiecenia.net>
Message-ID: <1hfqn6fxumg0f.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:57:27 +0200, Tomasz Grobelny wrote:

> What came to my mind: how does moinmoin know that PreferencjeU?ytkownika is 
> equivalent to UserPreferences? Is it written on any special page?
> What I noticed: the translation seems to work fine for German. What's wrong 
> with Polish translation?

The word UserPreferences has to be translated correctly in the .po file
(see MoinMaster).

Kind regards,
Alexander




From skip at pobox.com  Mon Sep 19 12:23:18 2005
From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com)
Date: Mon Sep 19 12:23:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] subpage drawing weirdness...
Message-ID: <17199.4160.509480.659412@montanaro.dyndns.org>

I must have something wrong.  I had a long page that contained a number of
drawing: objects.  I split it into several subpages:

    MyPage/SubPageFoo
    MyPage/SubPageBar
    MyPage/SubPageBaz

I was a bit disappointed that the subpages didn't look in the main page for
their drawings, but I manually fetched them and then attached them to the
specific subpage from which they were referenced.

I then added a new drawing to one of the subpages:

    drawing:another

saved the page and clicked the link.  That brought up the TWikiDraw applet.
I created the drawing.  When I selected Save and Exit it properly attached
the .draw and .png files to the correct subpage, but then redirected me to

    http://my.server/mywiki/MyPage/MyPage/SubPageFoo?action=AttachFile&ts=1127157093.06

Moin complained about that and offered to let me create
MyPage/MyPage/SubPageFoo.  Where'd the extra "MyPage/" come from?

-- 
Skip Montanaro
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skip at pobox.com



From jh at web.de  Mon Sep 19 14:37:29 2005
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Mon Sep 19 14:37:29 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] subpage drawing weirdness...
In-Reply-To: <17199.4160.509480.659412@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <E1EHTJL-00062C-00@smtp07.web.de>

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 14:23:44 -0500, skip at pobox.com wrote:

That should be fixed in 1.3.5.

>I must have something wrong.  I had a long page that contained a number of
>drawing: objects.  I split it into several subpages:

>    MyPage/SubPageFoo
>    MyPage/SubPageBar
>    MyPage/SubPageBaz

>I was a bit disappointed that the subpages didn't look in the main page for
>their drawings, but I manually fetched them and then attached them to the
>specific subpage from which they were referenced.

>I then added a new drawing to one of the subpages:

>    drawing:another

>saved the page and clicked the link.  That brought up the TWikiDraw applet.
>I created the drawing.  When I selected Save and Exit it properly attached
>the .draw and .png files to the correct subpage, but then redirected me to

>    http://my.server/mywiki/MyPage/MyPage/SubPageFoo?action=AttachFile&ts=
1127157093.06

>Moin complained about that and offered to let me create
>MyPage/MyPage/SubPageFoo.  Where'd the extra "MyPage/" come from?

>-- 
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>skip at pobox.com


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From gia at webde-ag.de  Tue Sep 20 05:17:19 2005
From: gia at webde-ag.de (Gisbert Amm)
Date: Tue Sep 20 05:17:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] How to hide Includes in [[TableOfContents]]
Message-ID: <432FFD84.9020808@webde-ag.de>

On of our Wiki pages has some Includes like the following

[[Include(ArchitekturZirkel/PersistenzKapselung, , 3, from="^## next
milestone", to="^## next milestone end")]]

and a table of contents like this:

[[TableOfContents(")]]

Unfortunaltely the includes are shown in the toc at the same level as
the heading preceeding them; Moin uses the respective pagename as toc
entry - e.g. "ArchitekturZirkel/PersistenzKapselung".

That is not the expected behavior. One does not think of pagenames of
included pages as titles at the same level as the heading above them.
They are not expected to be headings at all. Is it possible to change
this behavoir of the TableOfContents macro in the current Moin release?
I did not find any hint in the docs.

Probably it was intended to incorporate the headings of the included
page, but that should IMHO not be the default but turned on by a certain
switch.

However, even if that was the desired behaviour there are not anchors
generated and therefore klicking on this wrong "headings" has no effect
either.

Regards,
Gisbert Amm



From s.nordhoff at uva.nl  Wed Sep 21 08:44:53 2005
From: s.nordhoff at uva.nl (Sebastian Nordhoff)
Date: Wed Sep 21 08:44:53 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Error: "data_dir" does not exist
Message-ID: <op.sxglu5wfzsueb6@localhost.localdomain>

Hi all,
I have tried to install Moinmoin on a server with ftp access only. I  
closely followed the instructions, and the core seems to work, but there  
seems to be a problem with the data_dir. When accessing index.py with the  
browser, I get the error message:

<error>
MoinMoin Configuration Error

"data_dir" does not exists at  
"/home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/slmwiki/data", or has incorrect  
ownership and permissions.
Make sure the directory and the subdirectory pages are owned by the web  
server and are readable, writable and executable by the web server user  
and group.
It is recommended to use absolute paths and not relative paths. Check also  
the spelling of the directory name.
</error>

The paths and spellings are correct, and I have even set global  
permissions:

data	4.00 KB Sept 21, 2005 jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx

Relative paths did not change anything.
Even when I had put the data dir below DOCUMENT ROOT (which is not  
recommended), Moin could not access it, whereas apache could.

This seems to be a common problem  
(http://www.google.com/search?q=MoinMoin+Configuration+Error+%22data_dir%22+does+not+exists+at+&btnG=Search)

Any suggestions?
Thank you very much
Sebastian

my wikiconfig.py:

# -*- coding: iso-8859-1 -*-
# IMPORTANT! This encoding (charset) setting MUST be correct! If you live  
in a
# western country and you don't know that you use utf-8, you probably want  
to
# use iso-8859-1 (or some other iso charset). If you use utf-8 (a Unicode
# encoding) you MUST use: coding: utf-8
# That setting must match the encoding your editor uses when you modify the
# settings below. If it does not, special non-ASCII chars will be wrong.

"""
     MoinMoin - Configuration for a single wiki

     If you run a single wiki only, you can omit the farmconfig.py config
     file and just use wikiconfig.py - it will be used for every request
     we get in that case.

     Note that there are more config options than you'll find in
     the version of this file that is installed by default; see
     the module MoinMoin.multiconfig for a full list of names and their
     default values.

     Also, the URL http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration has
     a list of config options.

     @copyright: 2000-2005 by Juergen Hermann <jh at web.de>
     @license: GNU GPL, see COPYING for details.
"""

 from MoinMoin.multiconfig import DefaultConfig


class Config(DefaultConfig):

     # Wiki identity ----------------------------------------------------

     # Site name, used by default for wiki name-logo [Unicode]
     sitename = u'Untitled Wiki'

     # Wiki logo. You can use an image, text or both. [Unicode]
     # Example: u'<img src="/wiki/mywiki.png" alt="My Wiki">My Wiki'
     # For no logo or text, use ''
     logo_string = sitename

     # The interwiki name used in interwiki links
     interwikiname = None


     # Critical setup  ---------------------------------------------------

     # Misconfiguration here will render your wiki unusable. Check that
     # all directories are accessible by the web server or moin server.

     # If you encounter problems, try to set data_dir and data_underlay_dir
     # to absolute paths.

     # Where your mutable wiki pages are. You want to make regular
     # backups of this directory.
     data_dir = '/home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/slmwiki/data'

     # Where read-only system and help page are. You might want to share
     # this directory between several wikis. When you update MoinMoin,
     # you can safely replace the underlay directory with a new one. This
     # directory is part of MoinMoin distribution, you don't have to
     # backup it.
     data_underlay_dir =  
'/home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/underlay/'

     # This must be '/wiki' for twisted and standalone. For CGI, it should
     # match your Apache Alias setting.
     url_prefix = '/wiki'


     # Security ----------------------------------------------------------

     # Security critical actions (disabled by default)
     # Uncomment to enable options you like.
     #allowed_actions = ['DeletePage', 'AttachFile', 'RenamePage']

     # Enable acl (0 to disable)
     acl_enabled = 1

     # IMPORTANT: grant yourself admin rights! replace YourName with
     # your user name. See HelpOnAccessControlLists for more help.
     # All acl_rights_xxx options must use unicode [Unicode]
     acl_rights_before = u"seb:read,write,delete,revert,admin"

     # Link spam protection for public wikis (Uncomment to enable)
     # Needs a reliable internet connection.
     #from MoinMoin.util.antispam import SecurityPolicy


     # Mail --------------------------------------------------------------

     # Configure to enable subscribing to pages (disabled by default)
     # or sending forgotten passwords.

     # SMTP server, e.g. "mail.provider.com" (empty or None to disable mail)
     mail_smarthost = ""

     # The return address, e.g "My Wiki <noreply at mywiki.org>"
     mail_from = ""

     # "user pwd" if you need to use SMTP AUTH
     mail_login = ""


     # User interface ----------------------------------------------------

     # Add your wikis important pages at the end. It is not recommended to
     # remove the default links.  Leave room for user links - don't use
     # more than 6 short items.
     # You MUST use Unicode strings here, but you need not use localized
     # page names for system and help pages, those will be used  
automatically
     # according to the user selected language. [Unicode]
     navi_bar = [
         # Will use page_front_page, (default FrontPage)
         u'%(page_front_page)s',
         u'RecentChanges',
         u'FindPage',
         u'HelpContents',
	u'LDS',
	u'FAQ',
     ]

     # The default theme anonymous or new users get
     theme_default = 'classic'


     # Language options --------------------------------------------------

     # See http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ConfigMarket for configuration in
     # YOUR language that other people contributed.

     # The main wiki language, set the direction of the wiki pages
     default_lang = 'en'

     # You must use Unicode strings here [Unicode]
     page_category_regex = u'^Category[A-Z]'
     page_dict_regex = u'[a-z]Dict$'
     page_form_regex = u'[a-z]Form$'
     page_group_regex = u'[a-z]Group$'
     page_template_regex = u'[a-z]Template$'

     # Content options ---------------------------------------------------

     # Show users hostnames in RecentChanges
     show_hosts = 1

     # Enumerate headlines?
     show_section_numbers = 0

     # Charts size, require gdchart (Set to None to disable).
     chart_options = {'width': 600, 'height': 300}








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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Sep 22 03:15:50 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Sep 22 03:15:50 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Error: "data_dir" does not exist
References: <op.sxglu5wfzsueb6@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <7i5wfc5yznv7$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:41:44 +0200, Sebastian Nordhoff wrote:

> MoinMoin Configuration Error
> 
> "data_dir" does not exists at  
> "/home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/slmwiki/data"

Can you paste the output of
ls -lR /home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/slmwiki/data
Thanks.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From s.nordhoff at uva.nl  Thu Sep 22 04:07:48 2005
From: s.nordhoff at uva.nl (Sebastian Nordhoff)
Date: Thu Sep 22 04:07:48 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Error: "data_dir" does not exist
In-Reply-To: <7i5wfc5yznv7$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
References: <op.sxglu5wfzsueb6@localhost.localdomain> <7i5wfc5yznv7$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <op.sxh3qao2l2tfip@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:10:19 +0200, Alexander Schremmer  
<2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:41:44 +0200, Sebastian Nordhoff wrote:
>
>> MoinMoin Configuration Error
>>
>> "data_dir" does not exists at
>> "/home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/slmwiki/data"
>
> Can you paste the output of
> ls -lR /home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/slmwiki/data
> Thanks.


I'll do my very best. I have no shell access, so no direct ls possible,  
but PLESK shows the following for the first level.

..	
4.00 KB
Sept 21, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln				
	cache	
4.00 KB
Sept 21, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx r-x r-x 	

	
	pages	
4.00 KB
Sept 21, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx r-x r-x 	

	
	plugin	
4.00 KB
Sept 21, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx r-x r-x 	

	
	user	
4.00 KB
Sept 21, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx r-x r-x 	

	
	edit-log	
0.00 KB
Sept 21, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rw- r-- r-- 	

	
	intermap.txt	
8.00 KB
Sept 21, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rw- r-- r-- 	

	
7 jasyjatere.com / cgi-bin / slmwiki / data items total	





I  ftpd the directory without changes, so it should be the same on the  
server as on my local computer.  I paste the output from my local  
computer. Files should be identical, owners and permissions  should be as  
above, i.e. jasyjatere psacln rwx r-x r-x

snordhoff[wikinohttp]%ls -lR data
data:
total 24K
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 cache/
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users    0 2005-09-21 13:03 edit-log
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 5.5K 2005-09-21 13:03 intermap.txt
drwxr-xr-x  3 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 pages/
drwxr-xr-x  9 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 plugin/
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 user/

data/cache:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 240 2005-09-21 13:03 README

data/pages:
total 4.0K
drwxr-xr-x  3 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 BadContent/

data/pages/BadContent:
total 8.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users    9 2005-09-21 13:03 current
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 revisions/

data/pages/BadContent/revisions:
total 56K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 49K 2005-09-21 13:03 00000001

data/plugin:
total 32K
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 action/
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 formatter/
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users  127 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 macro/
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 parser/
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 processor/
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 theme/
drwxr-xr-x  2 snordhoff users 4.0K 2005-09-21 13:03 xmlrpc/

data/plugin/action:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 115 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py

data/plugin/formatter:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 115 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py

data/plugin/macro:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 115 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py

data/plugin/parser:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 115 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py

data/plugin/processor:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 115 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py

data/plugin/theme:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 115 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py

data/plugin/xmlrpc:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 115 2005-09-21 13:03 __init__.py

data/user:
total 4.0K
-rw-r--r--  1 snordhoff users 239 2005-09-21 13:03 README

Thanks for your help
Sebastian



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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Sep 22 05:28:19 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Sep 22 05:28:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Re: Error: "data_dir" does not exist
References: <op.sxglu5wfzsueb6@localhost.localdomain> <7i5wfc5yznv7$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> <op.sxh3qao2l2tfip@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <5zhieghw38x4$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 13:04:48 +0200, Sebastian Nordhoff wrote:

> I'll do my very best. I have no shell access, so no direct ls possible,  
> but PLESK shows the following for the first level.

The output shows that you did not set rwx rwx rwx recursively. Please try
that and you should see a working but very insecure MoinMoin.
In that case, you need to ask your provider for correct setuid
configuration for the CGIs or try to create the data directory by writing a
CGI.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 22 11:20:11 2005
From: kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net (Kenneth McDonald)
Date: Thu Sep 22 11:20:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Any way to put in inline video that doesn't download until user starts it?
Message-ID: <E8E29FCE-6451-44E8-8E9A-93B3D93EEE32@sbcglobal.net>

I know this is doable in web browsers, though I don't know if it can  
be done in Moin--I tried the "obvious" way, and it didn't work...

Basically, I want to be able to include a link to a video, and have  
that show up as a video player frame within the page containing the  
link. The video should not start downloading or playing until the  
user clicks the "play" button in the video player.

I tried the obvious "inline:myvid.mov", but that doesn't work--I'm  
allowed to upload the movie through that link, but then in the web  
page, I just get a very wide, short frame of the sort that would be  
used around {{{...}}} text.

Thanks for any suggestions,
Ken



From lists at bpsw.biz  Fri Sep 23 01:49:09 2005
From: lists at bpsw.biz (Max Campos)
Date: Fri Sep 23 01:49:09 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] New Put/Get Page Scripts on ScriptMarket
Message-ID: <B6DBA044-4B40-47DC-A875-56A2941B9F88@bpsw.biz>

I've added my "put page" and "get page" scripts to the ScriptMarket.   
These are command-line utilities designed to manipulate Moin pages'  
raw text.

The "get" script simply returns the raw text for a page, while the  
"put" scripts creates a new revision / new page:

http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ScriptMarket/GetPageScript
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ScriptMarket/PutPageScript

Note: They don't use the RPC interface, so generally need to be run  
as the same user as your webserver.

enjoy.

- Max



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From: theron.kelso at gmail.com (Theron Kelso)
Date: Fri Sep 23 07:42:09 2005
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> From: Gisbert Amm <gia at webde-ag.de>
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Moin-user] How to hide Includes in [[TableOfContents]]
>
> On of our Wiki pages has some Includes like the following
>
> [[Include(ArchitekturZirkel/PersistenzKapselung, , 3, from="^## next
> milestone", to="^## next milestone end")]]
>
> and a table of contents like this:
>
> [[TableOfContents(")]]
>
> Unfortunaltely the includes are shown in the toc at the same level as
> the heading preceeding them; Moin uses the respective pagename as toc
> entry - e.g. "ArchitekturZirkel/PersistenzKapselung".
>
> That is not the expected behavior. One does not think of pagenames of
> included pages as titles at the same level as the heading above them.
> They are not expected to be headings at all. Is it possible to change
> this behavoir of the TableOfContents macro in the current Moin release?
> I did not find any hint in the docs.
>
> Probably it was intended to incorporate the headings of the included
> page, but that should IMHO not be the default but turned on by a certain
> switch.
>
> However, even if that was the desired behaviour there are not anchors
> generated and therefore klicking on this wrong "headings" has no effect
> either.
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From s.nordhoff at uva.nl  Mon Sep 26 04:19:12 2005
From: s.nordhoff at uva.nl (Sebastian Nordhoff)
Date: Mon Sep 26 04:19:12 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] ImportErrorCannot load macro FullSearch
Message-ID: <op.sxpi08b2l2tfip@localhost.localdomain>

Hi all,
thanks to Alexander's help, my wiki works now for basic functions such as  
editing. I have a problem with Categories, though. The FullSearch Macro  
does not seem to work, and I get an ImportError.
See error message (static) at  http://www.jasyjatere.com/error.html or  
below.


<error msg>
LDS complete

FrontPage
RecentChanges
FindPage
HelpContents
LDS
FAQ
LDS complete

List of all sections of the Lingua Descrptive Series Questionnaire

List of pages in this category:
--> -->


ImportErrorCannot load macro FullSearch	Please include this information in  
your bug reports!:
Python Python 2.2.3: /usr/bin/python
Linux XEN001-C02.totalin.com 2.4.21-27.0.1.EL #1 Fri Dec 24 02:04:03 GMT  
2004 i686
MoinMoin Release 1.3.5 [Revision 1.3.5 release]
Mon Sep 26 13:27:18 2005	

A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function  
calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.

  /home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/MoinMoin/request.py in  
run(self=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object>)	
   914             else:
	
   915                 try:
	
   916                     cgitb.Hook(file=self).handle(saved_exc)
	
   917                     # was: cgitb.handler()
	
   918                 except:
	
cgitb = <module 'MoinMoin.support.cgitb' from  
'/home/htt...syjatere.com/cgi-bin/MoinMoin/support/cgitb.pyc'>, cgitb.Hook  
= <class MoinMoin.support.cgitb.Hook>, file undefined, self =  
<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object>, ).handle undefined, saved_exc =  
(<class exceptions.ImportError>, <exceptions.ImportError instance>,  
<traceback object>)	

  /home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/MoinMoin/Page.py in  
send_page(self=<MoinMoin.Page.Page instance>,  
request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object>, msg='',  
**keywords={'count_hit': 1})	
  1152         else:
	
  1153             # parse the text and send the page content
	
  1154             self.send_page_content(request, Parser, body,  
format_args=pi_formatargs, do_cache=do_cache)
	
  1155
	
  1156             # check for pending footnotes
	
self = <MoinMoin.Page.Page instance>, self.send_page_content = <bound  
method Page.send_page_content of <MoinMoin.Page.Page instance>>, request =  
<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object>, Parser = <class  
MoinMoin.parser.wiki.Parser>, body = u'\nList of all sections of the  
Lingua Descrptive  
S...FullSearch(CategoryLDS)]]\n\n----\nCategoryCategory\n', format_args  
undefined, pi_formatargs = u'', do_cache = 1	

  /home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/MoinMoin/Page.py in  
send_page_content(self=<MoinMoin.Page.Page instance>,  
request=<MoinMoin.request.RequestCGI object>, Parser=<class  
MoinMoin.parser.wiki.Parser>, body=u'\nList of all sections of the Lingua  
Descrptive S...FullSearch(CategoryLDS)]]\n\n----\nCategoryCategory\n',  
needsupdate=1, format_args=u'', do_cache=1)	
  1312                 __file__ =  
os.path.join(moinmodule.__loader__.archive, 'dummy')
	
  1313
	
  1314             exec code
	
  1315         except 'CacheNeedsUpdate':
	
  1316             # if something goes wrong, try without caching
	
code = <code object ? at 0x9a18070, file "LDS complete", line 2>	

  ? 	

  /home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/MoinMoin/formatter/base.py in  
macro(self=<MoinMoin.formatter.text_html.Formatter instance>,  
macro_obj=<MoinMoin.wikimacro.Macro instance>, name=u'FullSearch',  
args=u'CategoryLDS')	
   229     def macro(self, macro_obj, name, args):
	
   230         # call the macro
	
   231         return macro_obj.execute(name, args)
	
   232
	
   233     def _get_bang_args(self, line):
	
macro_obj = <MoinMoin.wikimacro.Macro instance>, macro_obj.execute =  
<bound method Macro.execute of <MoinMoin.wikimacro.Macro instance>>, name  
= u'FullSearch', args = u'CategoryLDS'	

  /home/httpd/vhosts/jasyjatere.com/cgi-bin/MoinMoin/wikimacro.py in  
execute(self=<MoinMoin.wikimacro.Macro instance>,  
macro_name=u'FullSearch', args=u'CategoryLDS')	
   110             return self._m_lang(macro_name, args)
	
   111
	
   112         raise ImportError("Cannot load macro %s" % macro_name)
	
   113
	
   114     def _m_lang(self, lang_name, text):
	
ImportError undefined, macro_name = u'FullSearch'	

ImportError: Cannot load macro FullSearch
       __doc__ = "Import can't find module, or can't find name in module."
       __getitem__ = <bound method ImportError.__getitem__ of  
<exceptions.ImportError instance>>
       __init__ = <bound method ImportError.__init__ of  
<exceptions.ImportError instance>>
       __module__ = 'exceptions'
       __str__ = <bound method ImportError.__str__ of  
<exceptions.ImportError instance>>
       args = (u'Cannot load macro FullSearch',)

</error msg>









the MoinMoin/macro directory is as follows

__init__.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	__init__.pyc	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	AbandonedPages.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	Action.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	Action.pyc	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	AttachInfo.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	AttachList.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	BR.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	BR.pyc	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	EditedSystemPages.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	EditTemplates.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	EditTemplates.pyc	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	FootNote.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	Form.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	FullSearch.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	FullSearch.pyc	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	FullSearch.pyc.old	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	GetText.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	GetTextFormatted.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	Include.py	
12.0 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	LikePages.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	LikePages.pyc	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	MonthCalendar.py	
24.0 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	Navigation.py	
8.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	


NewPage.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	OrphanedPages.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	PageHits.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	PageSize.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	RandomPage.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	RandomQuote.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	RecentChanges.py	
16.0 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	ShowSmileys.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	StatsChart.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	SystemAdmin.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	TableOfContents.py	
8.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	TableOfContents.pyc	
8.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	TeudView.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	Verbatim.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
	Verbatim.pyc	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
apache	apache	rw- --- --- 	

	
	WantedPages.py	
4.00 KB
Sept 26, 2005
jasyjatere	psacln	rwx rwx rwx 	

	
1-41 jasyjatere.com / cgi-bin / MoinMoin / macro items of 41 total




Thanks for your help
Sebastian



From sean at dague.net  Mon Sep 26 06:56:53 2005
From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague)
Date: Mon Sep 26 06:56:53 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] built in aliases?
Message-ID: <20050926135235.GA17880@underhill.no-ip.org>

Is there anything in moin (or where would I start to add it) that allows a
set of key work aliases that will internally map to a different page?

For instance, I'd like to have something like:

 MyThing:: MyOtherThing, MyThirdThing

Then when I put in MyOtherThing in a wiki page, it is linked in, however
when you click on it it ends up with MyThing page (after redirection).

Any pointers would be appreciated.

	-Sean

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From gia at webde-ag.de  Mon Sep 26 08:10:43 2005
From: gia at webde-ag.de (Gisbert Amm)
Date: Mon Sep 26 08:10:43 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] built in aliases?
In-Reply-To: <20050926135235.GA17880@underhill.no-ip.org>
References: <20050926135235.GA17880@underhill.no-ip.org>
Message-ID: <43380D94.7070400@webde-ag.de>

Use the line

#redirect MyThing

as the content of the pages MyOtherThing and MyThirdThing

See http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnProcessingInstructions

Regards,
Gisbert Amm

Sean Dague wrote:
> Is there anything in moin (or where would I start to add it) that allows a
> set of key work aliases that will internally map to a different page?
> 
> For instance, I'd like to have something like:
> 
>  MyThing:: MyOtherThing, MyThirdThing
> 
> Then when I put in MyOtherThing in a wiki page, it is linked in, however
> when you click on it it ends up with MyThing page (after redirection).
> 
> Any pointers would be appreciated.
> 
> 	-Sean
> 



From cerdiogenes at yahoo.com.br  Mon Sep 26 10:07:02 2005
From: cerdiogenes at yahoo.com.br (Carlos Eduardo Rodrigues Diogenes)
Date: Mon Sep 26 10:07:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] accessibility support in moinmoin
Message-ID: <43382D3C.1070707@yahoo.com.br>

Hi,

There is anything being done to support accessibility web features in 
moinmoin?

Today, there is any place with informations about how to make the 
moinmoin wiki supports the accessibility described by W3C?

Thanks,
Carlos.



From lee.james at ieee.org  Mon Sep 26 13:04:05 2005
From: lee.james at ieee.org (Lee James)
Date: Mon Sep 26 13:04:05 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Sources of advice while setting up a moinmoin
Message-ID: <01ab01c5c2d4$fc2e5f80$2800a8c0@lee1w72ynf6yyt>

I am in the process of installing moinmoin.  As an initial attempt I am installing it on my personal LAN as a standalone wiki.  The specific machine is running Windows 2000 and already has Python 2.4 installed at C:\Python24.  Here is what has transpired so far:
 
a.. following http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling/BasicInstallation 
  a.. downloaded the install file and unpacked it into file:///D:\work\JOBS\2005Applications\OTI\wiki\moin-1.3.5 
    a.. needed to upgrade WinRAR before this was successful. 
  b.. command line install appears to have worked, install.log contains 814 entries 
    a.. all entries installed under C:\moin 
    b.. predicted message about the search path did not appear 
  c.. added c:\moin to the python path
  d.. No messages in response to import MoinMoin 
    a.. appears that the MoinMoin source code is located in C:\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\ 
      a.. Note that the predicted python2.4 is missing                                                                             issue A
    b.. appears that the templates are located in C:\moin\share\moin\ 
    c.. appears that some scripts that help to use the MoinMoin shell commands are located in C:\moin\Scripts 
a.. following http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling/WikiInstanceCreation 
  a.. Not sure I found the 'dedicated pages' being referred to
    a.. assuming this refers to the Installation scenarios section of http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling .  
  b..  for first instance will use the name of trial and be at C:\moin\wikis\trial 
  c.. 
    a.. PREFIX=C:\moin 
    b.. SHARE=$PREFIX\share\moin 
    c.. WIKILOCATION=$PREFIX\wikis 
    d.. INSTANCE=trial 
  d.. copied the relevant files to C:\moin\wikis\trial 
  e.. permissions set so the directory is not shared, but everyone on this machine has access. This is the windows default. 
  f.. editing wikiconfig.py 
    a.. changing line 36 sitename = u'Untitled Wiki' to sitename = u'Trial Wiki' 
    b.. changing line 83 #acl_rights_before = u"YourName:read,write,delete,revert,admin" to acl_rights_before = u"lee:read,write,delete,revert,admin" 
      a.. see http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnAccessControlLists 
    c.. changing line 96 mail_smarthost = "" to mail_smarthost = "mail.storm.ca" 
      a.. looking up SMTP server: Outlook Express -> Tools -> Accounts: pop.storm.ca -> properties: servers 
    d.. changing line 99 mail_from = "" to mail_from = "Wiki Trial" 
a.. following http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling/StandaloneServer 
  a.. copied moin.py from C:\moin\share\moin\server to C:\moin\wikis\trial 
  b.. editing moin.py 
    a.. changing line 15 sys.path.insert(0, '/path/to/wikiconfig') to sys.path.insert(0, 'C:/moin/wikis/trial') 
    b.. changing line 32 docs = '/usr/share/moin/htdocs' to docs = 'C:/moin/share/moin/htdocs' 
    c.. changing line 44 interface = 'localhost' to interface = '' 
    d.. changing line 49 ## logPath = 'moin.log' to logPath = 'moin.log' 
  c.. try running by double-clicking moin.py 
    a.. failed to find MoinMoin.server.standalone to import from                                                     issue B
  d.. moved MoinMoin from C:\moin\Lib\site-packages to C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages 
  e.. try running by running moin.py from cmd window                                                                           issue C
    a.. File "C:\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\server\standalone.py", line 485, in run 
    b.. AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'getuid' 
  f.. copied MoinMoin back so it appears as both C:\moin\Lib\site-packages and C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages 
  g.. try running by running moin.py from cmd window and by doulble clicking
    a.. File "C:\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\server\standalone.py", line 485, in run 
    b.. if os.getuid() == 0 and os.name == 'posix':                                                                          issue D
    c.. AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'getuid' 
I am left with several confusions:
A: I presume that if I had followed the instructions for downloading Python, instead of already having it installed, I would have had the default directory structure
B: given that c:\moin is in the pythonpath, why would python be unable to find this file?
C: how is it the error is being reported in a file that does not exist where it is being reported to be.  Is this a bug?  In Python or MoinMoin?
D: getuid is only defined for UNIX systems apparently.  How did I get to be executing Unix code in a windows installation.  Is this a MoinMoin bug?

I hope someone can help de-confuse me on some or all of these issues!

Thanx
Lee James
8161 Fallowfield Road
Ashton ON  K0A 1B0
Telephone: 613 253-6154
e-mail: lee.james at ieee.org
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From CPJohnson at edcon.co.za  Tue Sep 27 01:08:07 2005
From: CPJohnson at edcon.co.za (Craig Johnson)
Date: Tue Sep 27 01:08:07 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Sources of advice while setting up a moinmoin
Message-ID: <D9724EA89D806C48ADFA732EF3BE3CFC858B38@ORMEXVS01.production.fr-prod.edcon.co.za>

Lee,
 
I have no idea if you've received any replies as this list replies
directly to the sender.
 
I run exactly the same configuration as you are trying to get going.
 
Issue A - I don't understand what you're saying here.
Issue B - you need a new line in Moin.py - "sys.path.insert(0,
r'c:\moin\lib\site-packages')"
Issue C - See B
Issue D - This is a reported bug, change that line to read "if os.name
== 'posix' and os.getuid() == 0:" so that the os check happens first.
 
Craig
 
-----Original Message-----
From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Lee James
Sent: 26 September 2005 05:05 PM
To: Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Moin-user] Sources of advice while setting up a moinmoin


I am in the process of installing moinmoin.  As an initial attempt I am
installing it on my personal LAN as a standalone wiki.  The specific
machine is running Windows 2000 and already has Python 2.4 installed at
C:\Python24.  Here is what has transpired so far:
 
*	following
http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling/BasicInstallation 


*	downloaded the install file and unpacked it into
file:///D:\work\JOBS\2005Applications\OTI\wiki\moin-1.3.5 


*	needed to upgrade WinRAR before this was successful. 

*	command line install appears to have worked, install.log
contains 814 entries 


*	all entries installed under C:\moin 

*	predicted message about the search path did not appear 

*	added c:\moin to the python path 

*	No messages in response to import MoinMoin 


*	appears that the MoinMoin source code is located in
C:\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\ 


*	Note that the predicted python2.4 is missing
issue A

*	appears that the templates are located in C:\moin\share\moin\ 

*	appears that some scripts that help to use the MoinMoin shell
commands are located in C:\moin\Scripts 

*	following
http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling/WikiInstanceCreation 


*	Not sure I found the 'dedicated pages' being referred to 


*	assuming this refers to the Installation scenarios section of
http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling .  

*	 for first instance will use the name of trial and be at
C:\moin\wikis\trial 

*	


*	PREFIX=C:\moin 

*	SHARE=$PREFIX\share\moin 

*	WIKILOCATION=$PREFIX\wikis 

*	INSTANCE=trial 

*	copied the relevant files to C:\moin\wikis\trial 

*	permissions set so the directory is not shared, but everyone on
this machine has access. This is the windows default. 

*	editing wikiconfig.py 


*	changing line 36 sitename = u'Untitled Wiki' to sitename =
u'Trial Wiki' 

*	changing line 83 #acl_rights_before =
u"YourName:read,write,delete,revert,admin" to acl_rights_before =
u"lee:read,write,delete,revert,admin" 


*	see http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnAccessControlLists 

*	changing line 96 mail_smarthost = "" to mail_smarthost =
"mail.storm.ca" 


*	looking up SMTP server: Outlook Express -> Tools -> Accounts:
pop.storm.ca -> properties: servers 

*	changing line 99 mail_from = "" to mail_from = "Wiki Trial" 

*	following
http://wiki.python.org/moin/HelpOnInstalling/StandaloneServer 


*	copied moin.py from C:\moin\share\moin\server to
C:\moin\wikis\trial 

*	editing moin.py 


*	changing line 15 sys.path.insert(0, '/path/to/wikiconfig') to
sys.path.insert(0, 'C:/moin/wikis/trial') 

*	changing line 32 docs = '/usr/share/moin/htdocs' to docs =
'C:/moin/share/moin/htdocs' 

*	changing line 44 interface = 'localhost' to interface = '' 

*	changing line 49 ## logPath = 'moin.log' to logPath = 'moin.log'


*	try running by double-clicking moin.py 


*	failed to find MoinMoin.server.standalone to import from
issue B

*	moved MoinMoin from C:\moin\Lib\site-packages to
C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages 

*	try running by running moin.py from cmd window
issue C 


*	File "C:\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\server\standalone.py",
line 485, in run 

*	AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'getuid' 

*	copied MoinMoin back so it appears as both
C:\moin\Lib\site-packages and C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages 

*	try running by running moin.py from cmd window and by doulble
clicking 


*	File "C:\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\server\standalone.py",
line 485, in run 

*	if os.getuid() == 0 and os.name == 'posix':
issue D 

*	AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'getuid' 

I am left with several confusions:
A: I presume that if I had followed the instructions for downloading
Python, instead of already having it installed, I would have had the
default directory structure
B: given that c:\moin is in the pythonpath, why would python be unable
to find this file?
C: how is it the error is being reported in a file that does not exist
where it is being reported to be.  Is this a bug?  In Python or
MoinMoin?
D: getuid is only defined for UNIX systems apparently.  How did I get to
be executing Unix code in a windows installation.  Is this a MoinMoin
bug?
 
I hope someone can help de-confuse me on some or all of these issues!
 
Thanx
Lee James
8161 Fallowfield Road
Ashton ON  K0A 1B0
Telephone: 613 253-6154
e-mail: lee.james at ieee.org


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From sean at dague.net  Tue Sep 27 08:11:31 2005
From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague)
Date: Tue Sep 27 08:11:31 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: built in aliases?
In-Reply-To: <43380D94.7070400@webde-ag.de>
References: <20050926135235.GA17880@underhill.no-ip.org> <43380D94.7070400@webde-ag.de>
Message-ID: <20050927151010.GA4221@underhill.no-ip.org>

On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 05:02:44PM +0200, Gisbert Amm wrote:
> Use the line
> 
> #redirect MyThing
> 
> as the content of the pages MyOtherThing and MyThirdThing
> 
> See http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnProcessingInstructions

Cool, that is definitely a possibility.  I'm sort of curious if there is a
processing stage where this could be done centralized in a single page.  The
real reason I'd like to do this is provide User ID mappings from one wiki
setup to another one (which has centrally handed out ids).

	-Sean

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From jh at web.de  Tue Sep 27 12:08:48 2005
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Sep 27 12:08:48 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: built in aliases?
In-Reply-To: <20050927151010.GA4221@underhill.no-ip.org>
Message-ID: <E1EKKmv-0005oN-00@smtp07.web.de>

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:10:10 -0400, Sean Dague wrote:

>Cool, that is definitely a possibility.  I'm sort of curious if there is a
>processing stage where this could be done centralized in a single page.  The
>real reason I'd like to do this is provide User ID mappings from one wiki
>setup to another one (which has centrally handed out ids).

You can write a script that generates the redirect pages unless they already 
exist, and run that nightly.

Ciao, J?rgen





From mark.volkert at rakekniven.de  Wed Sep 28 09:30:37 2005
From: mark.volkert at rakekniven.de (Mark Volkert)
Date: Wed Sep 28 09:30:37 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] How to delete some of the page revisions?
In-Reply-To: <E1EKKmv-0005oN-00@smtp07.web.de>
References: <E1EKKmv-0005oN-00@smtp07.web.de>
Message-ID: <200509281453.00299.mark.volkert@rakekniven.de>

Hi,

we use page with now 575 page revisions and there is no need to keep all the 
old revision data.
Is there a way to remove some/all of it?

I am really sure that we won't need the old revisions :-)

kind regards,
mark



From kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 28 14:57:30 2005
From: kenneth.m.mcdonald at sbcglobal.net (Kenneth McDonald)
Date: Wed Sep 28 14:57:30 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Any way to allow users to create restricted pages?
Message-ID: <69F8B396-259A-4CFE-B782-AE74B4322FB7@sbcglobal.net>

I'm in the process of building up a Moin site. Some of the pages will  
be under tight editorial control (highly restricted), while others  
will be free for editing by everyone. This is enforced by default  
ACLs being restrictive, and less restrictive pages having specific  
ACLs giving more rights. I realize this is somewhat of an inversion  
of typical usage, but we wanted to make the more conservative option  
the default.

Unfortunately, I know of no way to set things up so that a page is  
created with the same #ACL list as its parent page, which is what is  
desired in this case. Is there any way of doing so?

Thanks,
Ken



From markus.liebelt at online.de  Thu Sep 29 00:46:43 2005
From: markus.liebelt at online.de (Markus Liebelt)
Date: Thu Sep 29 00:46:43 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] reference ot external file possible?
Message-ID: <op.sxus67s6444ivd@smtp.profimailer.de>

Hello all together,

I have searched the list for some information on my topic, but found no answer yet. So I send this email, perhaps someone has a tip or even a solution for me.

I want to get something doing this:
- I have a setup where the MoinMoin Desktop Edition will be installed on a DVD. It is a knowledge repository that may be easily installed on every desktop.
- Together with the wiki come a lot of ressources which are handled external to the wiki. There are some reasons for to do that, but just believe me, that is necessary.
- There should be a way to link the external ressources inside the wiki. When I use a link like file:///d:/some/stupid/file.exe, it is displayed in the browser, but the browser does not open it for security reasons.

What I would like to get is the following:
1. Expand the configuration to allow for a variable that denotes the root of the external ressources file system.
2. Write a macro or action, that takes the value of the variable, the relative path to a ressource, and provides that ressource as a http ressource to the browser.

I know that are two different questions, but I need answers for both of them to get my solution working. If anyone could point me to some example that does similar things, I will dive again into python (last wrote something in python now 8 years ago) and implement that solution (of cource, with providing it to the community :-)).

I hope there is a kind soul somewhere out there to help me

Bye
	Markus



From dm at belkam.com  Thu Sep 29 01:27:27 2005
From: dm at belkam.com (Dmitry Melekhov)
Date: Thu Sep 29 01:27:27 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to allow page deletetion?
Message-ID: <433BA49D.20900@belkam.com>

Hello!

Sorry for such question, but this is absolutely unclear for me.

I have
 allowed_actions = ['DeletePage', 'AttachFile', 'RenamePage']
and
 acl_rights_before = "All:read,write,delete,revert"

But delete page (??????? ????????) in other actions is grey...






From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Sep 29 04:07:34 2005
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Sep 29 04:07:34 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to allow page deletetion?
In-Reply-To: <433BA49D.20900@belkam.com>
References: <433BA49D.20900@belkam.com>
Message-ID: <433BC975.90507@gmx.de>

> allowed_actions = ['DeletePage', 'AttachFile', 'RenamePage']
> acl_rights_before = "All:read,write,delete,revert"

Do NOT allow revert for All. Or the first best search engine or leecher 
will f*ck up your wiki.

It has a reason why the default for revert is to be "Known" at least.

Long-Term we will have to fix that by using a http POST instead of that 
simple GET it uses now.

"delete" is less of a problem, it uses POST already. But I would think 
over allowing it for All, too.




From r.erens at eurosys.nl  Thu Sep 29 04:09:36 2005
From: r.erens at eurosys.nl (Roger Erens)
Date: Thu Sep 29 04:09:36 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] first example of SubPages syntax not working?
Message-ID: <871553ABB021B7479D37EE69EFAEB2A94A3E12@srvmail.EUROSYS.LOCAL>

Hi,

is there an explanation why the first example on
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnEditing/SubPages

{{{
 * HelpOnEditing/SubPages
}}}

does not show up as a link on that page? It's also not working within my
own wiki which is version 1.3.5.

Best regards,

Roger



From dm at belkam.com  Thu Sep 29 04:16:32 2005
From: dm at belkam.com (Dmitry Melekhov)
Date: Thu Sep 29 04:16:32 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to allow page deletetion?
In-Reply-To: <433BC975.90507@gmx.de>
References: <433BA49D.20900@belkam.com> <433BC975.90507@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <433BCCD1.9070802@belkam.com>

Thomas Waldmann wrote:

>> allowed_actions = ['DeletePage', 'AttachFile', 'RenamePage']
>> acl_rights_before = "All:read,write,delete,revert"
>
>
> Do NOT allow revert for All. Or the first best search engine or 
> leecher will f*ck up your wiki.
>
> It has a reason why the default for revert is to be "Known" at least.

All my users are "known" ;-) - they are sysadmins from my department and 
are authentified by apache.

>
> Long-Term we will have to fix that by using a http POST instead of 
> that simple GET it uses now.
>
> "delete" is less of a problem, it uses POST already. But I would think 
> over allowing it for All, too.
>
Sorry, but delete doesn't work for me- it is grey.
Could you answer to my question?

Thank you!





From r.erens at eurosys.nl  Thu Sep 29 05:09:17 2005
From: r.erens at eurosys.nl (Roger Erens)
Date: Thu Sep 29 05:09:17 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] reference ot external file possible?
Message-ID: <871553ABB021B7479D37EE69EFAEB2A94A3E13@srvmail.EUROSYS.LOCAL>

Hi Markus,

do you happen to use Firefox? If that's the case, probably this link may
be of interest to you:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=283357&highlight=security+
open+local+file

Regards,

Roger



From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Sep 29 05:25:41 2005
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Sep 29 05:25:41 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] first example of SubPages syntax not working?
In-Reply-To: <871553ABB021B7479D37EE69EFAEB2A94A3E12@srvmail.EUROSYS.LOCAL>
References: <871553ABB021B7479D37EE69EFAEB2A94A3E12@srvmail.EUROSYS.LOCAL>
Message-ID: <433BDBF1.6@gmx.de>

> is there an explanation why the first example on
> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnEditing/SubPages
> does not show up as a link on that page? It's also not working within my
> own wiki which is version 1.3.5.

Yes, there is an explanation: self-references never get linked by moin 
(because it is pointless).

But at that place, this is of course a very bad example.





From nirs at actcom.net.il  Thu Sep 29 05:43:21 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Thu Sep 29 05:43:21 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to allow page deletetion?
In-Reply-To: <433BA49D.20900@belkam.com>
References: <433BA49D.20900@belkam.com>
Message-ID: <5F1F0DFE-30E6-11DA-AB62-000A95B45AA0@actcom.net.il>

Delete is always disabled for underlay pages, so you can safely install 
a new underlay directory without changing your wiki pages.

This code in request.RequestBase.getAvailableActions causes your 
problem:

             elif not self.user.valid:
                 # Prevent rename and delete for non registered users
                 excluded = [u'RenamePage', u'DeletePage']

Try to comment it.

On 29 Sep, 2005, at 11:23, Dmitry Melekhov wrote:

> I have
> allowed_actions = ['DeletePage', 'AttachFile', 'RenamePage']
> and
> acl_rights_before = "All:read,write,delete,revert"
>
> But delete page (??????? ????????) in other actions is grey...
>

Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From jh at web.de  Thu Sep 29 10:33:40 2005
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Sep 29 10:33:40 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] reference ot external file possible?
In-Reply-To: <op.sxus67s6444ivd@smtp.profimailer.de>
Message-ID: <E1EL2GD-0004cY-00@smtp05.web.de>

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 09:46:09 +0200, Markus Liebelt wrote:

>1. Expand the configuration to allow for a variable that denotes the root of 
the external ressources file system.
>2. Write a macro or action, that takes the value of the variable, the 
relative path to a ressource, and provides that ressource as a http ressource 
to the browser.

way too much hassle. what you should do is define an Alias in the web browser, 
and point an interwiki link to that alias url.

Ciao, J?rgen





From work at infomaniak.ch  Fri Sep 30 05:47:12 2005
From: work at infomaniak.ch (Cedric BRINER)
Date: Fri Sep 30 05:47:12 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] install problem(mod_python, debian)
Message-ID: <20050930124516.GD12996@obs.unige.ch>

hi,

I'm trying to install moinmoin into a sarge.
# aptitude install libapache2-mod-python moinmoin-common python-moinmoin

# COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l python2.3-moinmoin libapache2-mod-python moinmoin-common
   Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
   | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
   |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
   ||/ Name                            Version                         Description
   +++-===============================-===============================-==============================================================================
   ii  python2.3-moinmoin              1.3.4-3                         Python clone of WikiWiki - library
   ii  libapache2-mod-python           3.1.3-3                         An Apache module that embeds Python within the server
   ii  moinmoin-common                 1.3.4-3                         Python clone of WikiWiki - common data


and I've followed the info in:
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling/ApacheWithModPython
and the 
/usr/share/doc/moinmoin-common/README.Debian
---%<---
    1) Create and populate /var/www/mywiki
       # mkdir /var/www/mywiki
       # cp -r /usr/share/moin/data /usr/share/moin/underlay /usr/share/moin/server/moin.cgi /var/www/mywiki
   
    2) Pass on the wiki to Apache:
       # chown -R www-data: /var/www/mywiki
   
    3) Configure Apache 1.3:
       Add the following lines to /etc/apache/httpd.conf:
   
           Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/"
           ScriptAlias /MyWiki "/var/www/mywiki/moin.cgi"
   
       and reload apache
   
    4) Configure MoinMoin:
       # edit /etc/moin/farmconfig.py
           (add mywiki to "wikis" and customize general stuff)
       # cp /etc/moin/moinmaster.py /etc/moin/mywiki.py
       # edit /etc/moin/mywiki.py
           (Customize to your liking...)
   
    5) Enjoy your new wiki at http://your.site/MyWiki/
---%<---

# cat /etc/apache2/conf.d/obswiki
   Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/"
   
   #
   # this is for CGI (quite slow)
   #ScriptAlias /obswiki "/export/diskA1/WWW/obswiki/moin.cgi"
   
   #
   # this is for mod_python
   <Location /obswiki>
    SetHandler python-program
    PythonPath "['/export/diskA1/WWW/obswiki/']+sys.path"
    PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run
    PythonDebug On
   </Location>


I've successfully make it work as CGI script by configuring the farmconfig.py, and instructing it that the wikiname will be ``obswiki''. : )
But the mod_python lamentably failed : (
the browser gives me back:
   MoinMoin Configuration Error
   ..
   ..
   Mod_python error: "PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run"
   
   Traceback (most recent call last):
   
     File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 301, in HandlerDispatch
       assert (type(result) == type(int())), \
   
   AssertionError: Handler 'MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run' returned invalid return code.

and the apaches log are:
   [Fri Sep 30 14:31:46 2005] [notice] mod_python: (Re)importing module 'MoinMoin.request'
   [Fri Sep 30 14:31:46 2005] [error] [client 1xx.xx.xx.xx] PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run: Traceback (most recent call last):
   [Fri Sep 30 14:31:46 2005] [error] [client 1xx.xx.xx.xx] PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run:   File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 301, in HandlerDispatch\n    assert (type(result) == type(int())), \\
   [Fri Sep 30 14:31:46 2005] [error] [client 1xx.xx.xx.xx] PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run: AssertionError: Handler 'MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run' returned invalid return code.

since it, I've try to remove/change the config in /etc/moin/.. but the result are strictly the same.

so maybe the error comes before.

any idea ?

thanks

Ced.

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Cedric BRINER
Geneva - Switzerland