From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Fri Apr  1 07:07:29 2005
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Fri Apr  1 07:07:29 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Upgrading: 1.3.3 to 1.3.4 (Eduardo Mercovich)
In-Reply-To: <424AB46A.4040109@gmx.de>
References: <20050330042350.F018B13629@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
	 <7774edb1f161361bbcfb6d5d77a5daa4@actcom.net.il>
	 <424AB46A.4040109@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4459f0d3050401070666995a47@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Thomas!

> Don't forget to run the new mig scripts we included with 1.3.4.
> See CHANGES.

Mmm.. I've read CHANGES and saw none. All the scripts were to migrate
fron 1.2 to 1.3, and I'm migratin from 1.3.3 to 1.3.4. Did I miss
something?

I have just finished the migration and it seems to be running fine in
Debian, standalone.

I'll start working with UpgradingMoinMoin.

Regards...

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.



From mcherron at mac.com  Fri Apr  1 17:54:47 2005
From: mcherron at mac.com (Michael Herron)
Date: Fri Apr  1 17:54:47 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] apache cannot find wiki (redhat)
Message-ID: <064010d1481d70a6b372bebc95e47429@mac.com>

I just followed the instructions for installing MoinMoin on a linux 
box.  I have now done this a few times to make sure that I am not 
skipping steps.

After I edit my httpd.conf file and restart apache, trying to find my 
wiki (named ilfirst) produces:

  The requested URL /ilfirst was not found on this server.

I must be missing some config options.

My httpd.conf has:

ScriptAlias /ilfirst "/usr/share/moin/ilfirst/cgi-bin/moin.cgi"
<Directory "/usr/share/moin/ilfirst/cgi-bin">
    Order deny,allow
    Allow from all
</Directory>

and this directory exists:

[root at elgar ilfirst]# cd /usr/share/moin/ilfirst/
[root at elgar ilfirst]# ls -l
total 20
drwxr-x---    2 apache   apache       4096 Apr  1 20:39 cgi-bin
drwxrwx---    6 apache   apache       4096 Apr  1 20:25 data
drwxrwx---    3 apache   apache       4096 Apr  1 20:25 underlay
-rw-rw----    1 apache   apache       5317 Apr  1 20:25 wikiconfig.py

Can anyone suggest where I should start looking for problems?

Thanks,

Michael






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From pascal.bauermeister at hispeed.ch  Sat Apr  2 11:36:13 2005
From: pascal.bauermeister at hispeed.ch (Pascal Bauermeister)
Date: Sat Apr  2 11:36:13 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Appropriate way to use Moin
In-Reply-To: <1112287727.23874.36.camel@angua.localnet>
References: <1112287727.23874.36.camel@angua.localnet>
Message-ID: <1112470524.529.8.camel@cassis>

On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 17:48 +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We currently use Moin to keep organisational information for a theatre
> backstage crew.  I'd like to describe one aspect of what we're doing and
> see if anyone can suggest a better way of doing it... (which could
> potentially be a suggestion that we're using the wrong sort of hammer
> for driving our screws).
> 
> We have a table of upcoming theatre shows - this is actually a page per
> year that uses [[Include...]] macros to stack up the per-month pages for
> the year.
> 
> Each month page has a table of shows in that month - this contains:-
>       * Company - a wiki link to the presenting company show page
>       * Show - a wiki link to a subpage with the information for this
>         show
>       * Dates
>       * Stage Manager
>       * Assistant Stage Manager
> 
> All of this information is also on the per-show page, along with much
> much more.  However we are currently keeping the per-show data and the
> excerpt of it on the per-month page in sync manually, which is obviously
> both time consuming and error prone.

It's good to want a solution to *not* do manual sync! :-)


> Can anyone point me to an existing method for extracting a batch of
> field data out of a bunch of subpages and populating a table with them?
> 
> If not, would writing a custom macro appear to be a reasonable approach
> to this?
> 
> The thing that worries me is that we could end up with a serious
> performance problem - currently the year page (which is how most people
> go into this) already includes 11 month subpages (we're closed in
> August).  If each month page hits another n subpages then things might
> break...

Could it be of any help ?
  http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/SearchInPagesAndSort/UsageExamples#head-0245634a561fec6d5207a677c4b655057028ac72

This macro was *not* meant to deal with tabular information, so maybe
the source pages have to be adapted. Or if you have a suggestion that
could make this macro help you better, just suggest...


  Pascal




From C.Gillespie at newcastle.ac.uk  Mon Apr  4 01:26:12 2005
From: C.Gillespie at newcastle.ac.uk (Colin Gillespie)
Date: Mon Apr  4 01:26:12 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] apache cannot find wiki (redhat)
Message-ID: <20DA376D0C991745A4D5249F7BCD7A25021848F2@largo.campus.ncl.ac.uk>

Hi Michael, 
 
Should cgi-bin and  (moin.cgi) not be executable by everyone, e.g. chmod
uog+x moin.cgi?
 
HTH
 
Colin

	-----Original Message-----
	From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Michael
Herron
	Sent: 02 April 2005 02:54
	To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
	Subject: [Moin-user] apache cannot find wiki (redhat)
	
	
	I just followed the instructions for installing MoinMoin on a
linux box. I have now done this a few times to make sure that I am not
skipping steps. 

	After I edit my httpd.conf file and restart apache, trying to
find my wiki (named ilfirst) produces: 

	The requested URL /ilfirst was not found on this server. 

	I must be missing some config options. 

	My httpd.conf has: 

	ScriptAlias /ilfirst "/usr/share/moin/ilfirst/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" 
	<Directory "/usr/share/moin/ilfirst/cgi-bin"> 
	Order deny,allow 
	Allow from all 
	</Directory> 
	and this directory exists: 

	[root at elgar ilfirst]# cd /usr/share/moin/ilfirst/ 
	[root at elgar ilfirst]# ls -l 
	total 20 
	drwxr-x--- 2 apache apache 4096 Apr 1 20:39 cgi-bin 
	drwxrwx--- 6 apache apache 4096 Apr 1 20:25 data 
	drwxrwx--- 3 apache apache 4096 Apr 1 20:25 underlay 
	-rw-rw---- 1 apache apache 5317 Apr 1 20:25 wikiconfig.py 

	Can anyone suggest where I should start looking for problems? 

	Thanks, 

	Michael 







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From mcherron at mac.com  Mon Apr  4 08:45:02 2005
From: mcherron at mac.com (Michael Herron)
Date: Mon Apr  4 08:45:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] apache cannot find wiki (redhat)
In-Reply-To: <20DA376D0C991745A4D5249F7BCD7A25021848F2@largo.campus.ncl.ac.uk>
References: <20DA376D0C991745A4D5249F7BCD7A25021848F2@largo.campus.ncl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <799f20016c017827a5d18b898b99c6b2@mac.com>

Thanks, Colin.

I have the server up and running.  It's great.  The problem was my 
(poor) knowledge of apache, which has now improved (a slight bit).

mh

On Apr 4, 2005, at 4:25 AM, Colin Gillespie wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>  ?
> Should cgi-bin and? (moin.cgi) not be executable by everyone, e.g. 
> chmod uog+x moin.cgi?
> ?
> HTH
> ?
> Colin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net 
> [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Herron
> Sent: 02 April 2005 02:54
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Moin-user] apache cannot find wiki (redhat)
>
> I just followed the instructions for installing MoinMoin on a linux 
> box. I have now done this a few times to make sure that I am not 
> skipping steps.
>
>
>  After I edit my httpd.conf file and restart apache, trying to find my 
> wiki (named ilfirst) produces:
>
>
>  The requested URL /ilfirst was not found on this server.
>
>
>  I must be missing some config options.
>
>
>  My httpd.conf has:
>
>
>  ScriptAlias /ilfirst "/usr/share/moin/ilfirst/cgi-bin/moin.cgi"
>  <Directory "/usr/share/moin/ilfirst/cgi-bin">
>  Order deny,allow
>  Allow from all
>  </Directory>
>  and this directory exists:
>
>
>  [root at elgar ilfirst]# cd /usr/share/moin/ilfirst/
>  [root at elgar ilfirst]# ls -l
>  total 20
>  drwxr-x--- 2 apache apache 4096 Apr 1 20:39 cgi-bin
>  drwxrwx--- 6 apache apache 4096 Apr 1 20:25 data
>  drwxrwx--- 3 apache apache 4096 Apr 1 20:25 underlay
>  -rw-rw---- 1 apache apache 5317 Apr 1 20:25 wikiconfig.py
>
>
>  Can anyone suggest where I should start looking for problems?
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
>
>  Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From nigel.harper at lightworkdesign.com  Mon Apr  4 08:52:33 2005
From: nigel.harper at lightworkdesign.com (Nigel Harper)
Date: Mon Apr  4 08:52:33 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Eliminating system pages in unwanted languages
Message-ID: <8815647C7041D111A3010060B06BE1C002C3AC54@ELVIS>

Is there a way to easily get rid of (or otherwise hide) system pages for
unwanted languages?

I imagine a lot of installations are like mine and only really have users
speaking one or two languages so all the translations are just clutter,
especially when they show up in the output of TitleIndex etc. and as
RandomPages 

I know I could go through and delete each page manually but

a) I'm lazy :)
b) presumably I'd just get them back when I upgrade to a new release with a
new /underlay directory

Is there a better way?

Nigel



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Mon Apr  4 09:24:23 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Mon Apr  4 09:24:23 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Eliminating system pages in unwanted languages
References: <8815647C7041D111A3010060B06BE1C002C3AC54@ELVIS>
Message-ID: <bdb2j2kk1fvg.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:51:46 +0100, Nigel Harper wrote:

> Is there a way to easily get rid of (or otherwise hide) system pages for
> unwanted languages?

See http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RemovingUnwantedLanguages

Kind regards,
Alexander




From mcm at Kolkidos.com  Mon Apr  4 21:41:11 2005
From: mcm at Kolkidos.com (Matthew Miller)
Date: Mon Apr  4 21:41:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Links & forms
Message-ID: <AA958BED021B40409D35805523D1CDB90299EE@sbs.Kolkidos.com>

Is there a way to link an image (not imagemap, just one link for the
whole image)?  In particular, I need to be able to put a condensed image
on the page but would like to have the image itself serve as a link to a
larger version.  Possible?

I'd like to include a form on one page; this would consist of rows of
checkboxes, each column with a separate label and each row being a
computer-name record.  What's the best way to do this?

TIA,

Matthew C. Miller        Managed Services Team
mcm at kolkidos.com         Kolkidos, Inc.
208/344.0050             www.kolkidos.com



From yibble at yibble.org  Tue Apr  5 01:29:28 2005
From: yibble at yibble.org (Nathan Lee Reynolds (yibble))
Date: Tue Apr  5 01:29:28 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Links & forms
In-Reply-To: <AA958BED021B40409D35805523D1CDB90299EE@sbs.Kolkidos.com>
References: <AA958BED021B40409D35805523D1CDB90299EE@sbs.Kolkidos.com>
Message-ID: <1112689858.18721.4.camel@wibble.yibble.org>

On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 22:41 -0600, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Is there a way to link an image (not imagemap, just one link for the
> whole image)?  In particular, I need to be able to put a condensed image
> on the page but would like to have the image itself serve as a link to a
> larger version.  Possible?
> 
> I'd like to include a form on one page; this would consist of rows of
> checkboxes, each column with a separate label and each row being a
> computer-name record.  What's the best way to do this?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Matthew C. Miller        Managed Services Team
> mcm at kolkidos.com         Kolkidos, Inc.
> 208/344.0050             www.kolkidos.com
-- snip--

If you mean like a thumbnail, I have an example of a macro ported from
the daviswiki.org project on my wiki, <http://wiki.druidnetwork.org/>

Thumbnail specific instructions from daviswiki.org are here,
<http://daviswiki.org/src/>

Current source repository for daviswiki.org, here:
<http://daviswiki.org/repos/>

I've managed to successfully port the Thumbnail functionality,
Commenting on articles, and the Events Board system, although I'm having
a hell of a time getting unicode into that :)

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From watsonr at cs.tcd.ie  Tue Apr  5 03:47:12 2005
From: watsonr at cs.tcd.ie (Ronan Watson)
Date: Tue Apr  5 03:47:12 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] New User:Writing page to a file
Message-ID: <1112697904.21759.25.camel@picolet.cs.tcd.ie>

Hi,

Using, 
page.send_page(request),
works fine. It sends the text to the wiki web page. Now I want to save
the text from this request to a file. How do I get the text out of this
request? 

Thanks

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From uwe.werner at rtc.bosch.com  Tue Apr  5 06:46:38 2005
From: uwe.werner at rtc.bosch.com (Uwe Werner (RTC))
Date: Tue Apr  5 06:46:38 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Export Wiki Information
Message-ID: <42529687.8000804@rtc.bosch.com>

Hi everybody,

Moin rocks and we use it on our department intranet. But - yes, there is 
at least one "but" : From time to time I have to provide information (on 
a singe  page, scattered over multiple pages) to persons either not 
willing to bother with our Wiki or simply not able to access it at all. 
(Or I do want to prescribe a sequence of  reading.)

I do print outs (using the browser of my choice). It really does not 
look nice.
I copy/paste plain text / html. A lot of work. Various options with 
different qualities.

I know there are some ongoing discussions on future features, but I 
would really like to learn how you do it right now, with Moin 1.3.x. 
Perhaps I missed something essential.

Thank you!

Uwe



From watsonr at cs.tcd.ie  Tue Apr  5 07:10:26 2005
From: watsonr at cs.tcd.ie (Ronan Watson)
Date: Tue Apr  5 07:10:26 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Using formatter
Message-ID: <1112710109.21759.31.camel@picolet.cs.tcd.ie>

Hi,

I have a particular formatter. What I want to do is use this formatter
on a wiki page. This works already and a window pops up to ask me where
to save this file which has been formatted. What I want to do is to save
this file in the background and run some other filter on it on my
machine and then for the save window to popup again. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks
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From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Tue Apr  5 07:45:10 2005
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Tue Apr  5 07:45:10 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Export Wiki Information
In-Reply-To: <42529687.8000804@rtc.bosch.com>
References: <42529687.8000804@rtc.bosch.com>
Message-ID: <4459f0d305040507444e2e3694@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Uwe!

[...]
> I do print outs (using the browser of my choice). It really does not
> look nice.

Try to make the whole document using the Include macro. Then,
customize your print css.

If you don't know about css, search someone who does. You can make it
look as you like, even using some company style with headers, footers,
fonts, colors, etc.

Hope it helps. :-)

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Wed Apr  6 09:40:52 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Wed Apr  6 09:40:52 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: New User:Writing page to a file
References: <1112697904.21759.25.camel@picolet.cs.tcd.ie>
Message-ID: <1xbj6sqs76ow8$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:45:04 +0100, Ronan Watson wrote:

> Using, 
> page.send_page(request),
> works fine. It sends the text to the wiki web page. Now I want to save
> the text from this request to a file. How do I get the text out of this
> request? 

Look at Page.py, getPageLinks:
request.redirect(FILE_HERE!)
try:
    Page(request, self.page_name).send_page(request, content_only=1)
finally:
    request.redirect()

That should do it after you have set the file in the first line. 

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Wed Apr  6 09:52:02 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Wed Apr  6 09:52:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Using formatter
References: <1112710109.21759.31.camel@picolet.cs.tcd.ie>
Message-ID: <w8ej6dcjhu2h.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:08:29 +0100, Ronan Watson wrote:

> What I want to do is to save
> this file in the background and run some other filter on it on my
> machine and then for the save window to popup again.

Do you want to run the filter on the server side?

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Wed Apr  6 10:21:23 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Wed Apr  6 10:21:23 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Using formatter
References: <1112710109.21759.31.camel@picolet.cs.tcd.ie> <w8ej6dcjhu2h.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <2vduenu00utf.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:48:15 +0200, Alexander Schremmer wrote:

> On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:08:29 +0100, Ronan Watson wrote:
> 
>> What I want to do is to save
>> this file in the background and run some other filter on it on my
>> machine and then for the save window to popup again.

I think this is not easily possible. Maybe sketch what are trying to do and
why you need this postprocessing step and cannot process the data in the
formatter directly.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Thu Apr  7 08:50:22 2005
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Thu Apr  7 08:50:22 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.3.4 problem: new pages without "create this page"
Message-ID: <4459f0d305040708492f18811@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everybody.

I have installed the 1.3.4 version with apparent success, but after
some short use, I discovered that when I link to a new page, I am not
offered the option to create it.

Upon clicking on a new WikiWord, Moin simply shows me that page
without content. Any idea?

My environment is: 
 * Python Version: 2.3.5 (#2, Feb 9 2005, 00:38:15) [GCC 3.3.5 (Debian
1:3.3.5-8)]
 * MoinMoin Version: Release 1.3.4 [Revision 1.3.4 release]

Thanks a lot... :-)

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Apr  7 13:02:22 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Apr  7 13:02:22 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: 1.3.4 problem: new pages without "create this page"
References: <4459f0d305040708492f18811@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <jmcqsjv6cmlo.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 12:49:45 -0300, Eduardo Mercovich wrote:

> Upon clicking on a new WikiWord, Moin simply shows me that page
> without content. Any idea?

Your underlay directory is set improperly/broken and/or the page
MissingPage is corrupted.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From quelo at cereve.enpc.fr  Thu Apr 14 05:07:22 2005
From: quelo at cereve.enpc.fr (Denis QUELO)
Date: Thu Apr 14 05:07:22 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Editor size
Message-ID: <200504141405.52633.quelo@cerea.enpc.fr>

Hi,

I can not manage to find where to change the editor width that is very small 
for my wiki (standalone server):
HelpOnFormatting | InterWiki [current page size is 72 bytes]

Since for other wiki I do not face the same problem, I think it does not come 
from my browser (konqueor).

Thanks for any help,
Denis.



From wren at hunt.org  Fri Apr 15 16:54:00 2005
From: wren at hunt.org (J. Wren Hunt)
Date: Fri Apr 15 16:54:00 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] ImportError: cannot import name cgimain
Message-ID: <426053E2.3090202@hunt.org>

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Hash: RIPEMD160



Hi all!


Short question: Where/how do I locate cgimain?

Long version:

I'm running Debian Sarge and just recently performed an upgrade. As a
result my MoinMoin installation broke. Prior to the upgrade I was
running 1.2x (not sure of sub-version) and now it's up to: 1.3. This was
done with debian's "apt-get upgrade" procedure - no manual untarring, etc.,


My Apache errorlog shows:

[Fri Apr 15 19:38:39 2005] [error] [client 192.168.1.1]   File
"/usr/share/moin/cacert/moin.cgi", line 31, in ?
[Fri Apr 15 19:38:39 2005] [error] [client 192.168.1.1]     from
MoinMoin import cgimain
[Fri Apr 15 19:38:39 2005] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] ImportError:
cannot import name cgimain
[Fri Apr 15 19:38:39 2005] [error] [client 192.168.1.1] Premature end of
script headers: moin.cgi
e

Appending "/?test" to the end of my URL (i.e.,
http://cacert.webhop.org/?test) gives:


MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
======================

Your PYTHONPATH is:
['/usr/share/moin/cacert',
~ '/usr/lib/python23.zip',
~ '/usr/lib/python2.3',
~ '/usr/lib/python2.3/plat-linux2',
~ '/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-tk',
~ '/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload',
~ '/usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages',
~ '/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages',
~ '/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Numeric',
~ '/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0']

Traceback (innermost last):
~  File "/usr/share/moin/cacert/moin.cgi", line 20, in ?
~    from MoinMoin import cgimain
~ ImportError: cannot import name cgimain

I found the Wiki entry: "Premature end of script headers" entry at:
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinQuestions#head-cc52883b626436575dfa41fd54cb3ec2f2fbfdee

But nothing on cgimain. Where did I (& my upgrade!) go wrong? Thanks!



- --

Cheers!

J. Wren Hunt
Cambridge, MA. USA

- ------------
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in
practice, there is." - Jan L.A. van de Snepscheut

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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Sat Apr 16 02:23:09 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Sat Apr 16 02:23:09 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: ImportError: cannot import name cgimain
References: <426053E2.3090202@hunt.org>
Message-ID: <pa7eo0y2xxae$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:53:06 -0400, J. Wren Hunt wrote:

> Short question: Where/how do I locate cgimain?

You don't need to, just replace the .cgi file with a newer one (no idea
where the package put it).

Kind regards,
Alexander




From wren at hunt.org  Sat Apr 16 03:41:11 2005
From: wren at hunt.org (J. Wren Hunt)
Date: Sat Apr 16 03:41:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: ImportError: cannot import name cgimain
In-Reply-To: <pa7eo0y2xxae$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
References: <426053E2.3090202@hunt.org> <pa7eo0y2xxae$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <4260EB6B.4080909@hunt.org>

Alexander Schremmer wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:53:06 -0400, J. Wren Hunt wrote:
> 
> 
>>Short question: Where/how do I locate cgimain?
> 
> 
> You don't need to, just replace the .cgi file with a newer one (no idea
> where the package put it).
> 
Thanks Alexander for the tip - unfortunately I'm not much of a Python 
guy and don't know what to replace the cgimain reference with.

My impulse is to manually install MoinMoin and use it that way but in 
the back of my mind I'm curious/leery of what the Debian package did or 
didn't do correctly.


-- 

Cheers!

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Cambridge, MA. USA

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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Sat Apr 16 03:45:44 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Sat Apr 16 03:45:44 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Re: ImportError: cannot import name cgimain
References: <426053E2.3090202@hunt.org> <pa7eo0y2xxae$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> <4260EB6B.4080909@hunt.org>
Message-ID: <1d134d2d9bgal$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:39:39 -0400, J. Wren Hunt wrote:

>>>Short question: Where/how do I locate cgimain?

>> You don't need to, just replace the .cgi file with a newer one (no idea
>> where the package put it).

> Thanks Alexander for the tip - unfortunately I'm not much of a Python 
> guy and don't know what to replace the cgimain reference with.

You don't need to edit the file or replace a reference - just use the new
moin.cgi file. Either search it locally or download the official package.

> My impulse is to manually install MoinMoin and use it that way but in 
> the back of my mind I'm curious/leery of what the Debian package did or 
> didn't do correctly.

I think it didn't do anything wrong besides having not enough
documentation. It cannot replace the moin.cgi file because the path where
it lies is not controlled by the .deb.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From brunelli at itc.it  Mon Apr 18 03:40:20 2005
From: brunelli at itc.it (Roberto Brunelli)
Date: Mon Apr 18 03:40:20 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Customize moinmoin pages with 'shortcut icon'
Message-ID: <42638E63.3000603@itc.it>

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From kevin3prichard at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 18 10:36:13 2005
From: kevin3prichard at yahoo.com (Kevin Prichard)
Date: Mon Apr 18 10:36:13 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] "data_dir" does not exists at "...", or has incorrect ownership and permissions.
Message-ID: <20050418173531.41683.qmail@web53903.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm setting up MoinMoin on Apache 2.0.52 under FC3.  I was spinning my wheels
against this error:

** "data_dir" does not exists at "/home/www/default/wikidata/", or has
incorrect ownership and permissions.  **

The directory existed, the ownership was indeed apache.apache, the
permissions I tried everything: rwxr-xr-x, rwxrwxr-x, rwxrwxrwx - nothing
changes.

Then I realized that, despite what the error message said, MoinMoin must be
looking elsewhere.  And indeed, it was looking in the /usr/share/moin
installation directory, which I discovered through trial-and-error.

This should be more clearly outlined in the docs, because it is not obvious
(to myself anyway.)  In farmconfig.py, it even says "If you encounter
problems, try to set data_dir and data_underlay_dir to absolute paths."

So I did, but apparently these are not respected unless found under the
installation directory?  Or, maybe they need to contain all the stuff found
underneath the installation directory's "./data"?  This was a bit
frustrating.  Same experience applied to data_underlay_dir.

I'd like to ease the pain for others - How would I go about contributing to
the project documentation changes of this kind?  Via CVS?

Kind regards,

Kevin Prichard



		
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From mcm at kolkidos.com  Mon Apr 18 11:25:04 2005
From: mcm at kolkidos.com (Matthew Miller)
Date: Mon Apr 18 11:25:04 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Customize moinmoin pages with 'shortcut icon'
In-Reply-To: <42638E63.3000603@itc.it>
References: <42638E63.3000603@itc.it>
Message-ID: <4263FB4F.7010103@kolkidos.com>

Robert,

Use this in your wiki.py or farmconfig.py:

   # Wiki favicon - this is the little icon that shows up in the
   # address bar and tabbed browser tabs.
     html_head = '''
     <link rel="icon" href="http://<server>/<path>/<file>"  /
     type="image/png"> '''

Hope this helps!


Roberto Brunelli wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> any hint on which file I should change to introduce the 'shortcut icon' 
> to have the small images on the browser tabs?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>     Roberto
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From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com  Mon Apr 18 11:42:25 2005
From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich)
Date: Mon Apr 18 11:42:25 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] UnicodeDecodeError in LocalSpellingWords?
Message-ID: <4459f0d3050418114137ea3cbc@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all.

I have just installed a new Moin 1.3.4 in Debian. It works OK, except
that when I try to access the TitleIndex
(http://170.210.60.122/th2005/TitleIndex), I got:

"UnicodeDecodeError'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 1-6:
unsupported Unicode code range"

I believe (due to the last part of the error msg). That the problem is in the 
LocalSpellingWords. So when I try to access it, I have the same problem. 

Any help will be very appreciated. :-)

Thanks a lot...

-- 
Eduardo Mercovich
Buenos Aires - Argentina.



From mal at egenix.com  Wed Apr 20 13:01:38 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed Apr 20 13:01:38 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrading from 1.2 -> 1.3
Message-ID: <4266B508.8050600@egenix.com>

Hello,

I have been a happy user of MoinMoin since the early days and
really like it.

Now that you've released 1.3, I'd like to upgrade
to the new release, but I am rather surprised by the upgrade
path you provide in the README.migration esp. since the comments
in the various migration scripts don't really give me a warm
fuzzy feeling that the upgrade is working properly...

Isn't there a way to upgrade smoothly from 1.2 without
introducing bugs, wrong timestamps, wrong revno increments,
etc. in between which then have to get fixed in later steps
of the process ?

Ideal would be a dump of the wiki contents in 1.2 which can
then be reloaded into 1.3 - in the same manner that databases
usually do upgrades.

Just curious.

Thanks,
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From gregwh at gmail.com  Wed Apr 20 18:29:42 2005
From: gregwh at gmail.com (greg)
Date: Wed Apr 20 18:29:42 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] attachments, filenamespaces, and indexing
Message-ID: <a250eacf050420182933a6d650@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm involved with setting up a wiki in an intranet environment and it
looks like it's going to be MoinMoin.  I'm trying to customize it and
make it as usefule for largest number of users possible.  A large
number of the users will be unlikely to create new links to either
pages or attachments, but I'm pretty sure they'll be able to edit and
upload attachments since it's analogous to webmail with which they're
familar.  Others will, hopefully, take up the function of making new
project spaces and cleaning up pages by linking to attached files,
etc.

One thing that has me concerned is that the first group will upload
attachments with long filenames that have empty spaces and they're
unlikely to use the rename box.  If I understand correctly, the only
way to link these pages then is to use substitute %20 for the spaces. 
There are a few a problems with this.  First, it makes it hard on the
"linkers" and it also might make it scary for the first group to see
all these %20's everywhere, which could turn them off to editing.  I'm
considering altering the MoinMoin.action.AttachFile.do_upload function
to substitute underscores for spaces.  Is there any good reason not to
do this?

The other issue is making the attachment pages available for a web
crawler to index.  We're considering using htdig or maybe a google
mini appliance to index the site including the attachments.  Is there
any place the unlinked files are available to the crawler?  Should I
create an AttachIndex macro?

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
Greg



From vamlists at gmx.net  Thu Apr 21 02:29:39 2005
From: vamlists at gmx.net (Vamsee Kanakala)
Date: Thu Apr 21 02:29:39 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] What's with this persistent error?
Message-ID: <4267727B.9060702@gmx.net>

Hi all,

       I installed moin recently, but somehow I cannot get it to work on 
Apache. I don't know what the problem is, I tried every thing, but I 
always get this error:


  MoinMoin Configuration Error

Could not find a match for url: "192.168.1.44/mwiki?action=test".

Check your URL regular expressions in the "wikis" list in "farmconfig.py".

    * linux2 (posix)
    * Python 2.3.5 (/usr/bin/python)
    * MoinMoin release 1.3.4 (revision 1.3.4 release)

The FAQ says I should delete farmconfig.py, which is what I did, but I 
still get this error. I'm pulling my hair out. Please help.

Thanks,
Vamsee.





From nirs at actcom.net.il  Thu Apr 21 04:19:17 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Thu Apr 21 04:19:17 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Upgrading from 1.2 -> 1.3 (M.-A. Lemburg)
In-Reply-To: <20050421032933.4512712FC8@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
References: <20050421032933.4512712FC8@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <8237a37ba531e8085b6c00e922ff62f3@actcom.net.il>

> Now that you've released 1.3, I'd like to upgrade
> to the new release, but I am rather surprised by the upgrade
> path you provide in the README.migration esp. since the comments
> in the various migration scripts don't really give me a warm
> fuzzy feeling that the upgrade is working properly...
>
> Isn't there a way to upgrade smoothly from 1.2 without
> introducing bugs, wrong timestamps, wrong revno increments,
> etc. in between which then have to get fixed in later steps
> of the process ?

The upgrade do work as you can see in many big wikis around. For a warm 
fuzzy feeling, its not recommended to read those upgrade scripts though 
:-).

Those scripts used in the development process to move from dev version 
1 to 2, 2 to 3 etc. Some of the scripts had errors, which had to be 
fixed in later scripts. Some of the errors could not be avoided because 
of limitations of the data saved in 1.2.

It was nice to have one script that read 1.2 format wiki, and write 1.3 
format wiki, but unfortunately nobody wrote such script.

The best way to get a warm fuzzy feeling would be to extract the 
distribution, copy your old data directory into the migration 
directory, run those scripts one by one, and set a new test wiki with 
the converted data. When you feel safe enough, shutdown the production 
wiki and convert it.

Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Apr 21 07:10:42 2005
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Apr 21 07:10:42 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] attachments, filenamespaces, and indexing
In-Reply-To: <a250eacf050420182933a6d650@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a250eacf050420182933a6d650@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4267AAFF.50206@gmx.de>

> considering altering the MoinMoin.action.AttachFile.do_upload function
> to substitute underscores for spaces.  Is there any good reason not to
> do this?

As a similar thing is already done for page names: No.

So feel free to do that. If you make a nice clean patch we might even 
include it into 1.3.

There won't be bigger changes though, as we will replace attachments in 
  the next major release completely.

> The other issue is making the attachment pages available for a web
> crawler to index.  We're considering using htdig or maybe a google
> mini appliance to index the site including the attachments.  Is there
> any place the unlinked files are available to the crawler?  Should I
> create an AttachIndex macro?

Maybe you need to use a useragent string that is not listed on the 
blacklist of moin. Usually you DON'T want a search engine to trigger 
actons, therefore most of those bots and tools are on the blacklist and 
forbidden for actions.



From kevin3prichard at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 21 07:43:28 2005
From: kevin3prichard at yahoo.com (Kevin Prichard)
Date: Thu Apr 21 07:43:28 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] What's with this persistent error?
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050421144259.66297.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com>

Vamsee,

I recently installed MoinMoin and had similar problems.  Please post your
current start file (e.g. index.cgi).  Also what was the full pathname that
you deleted when you removed farmconfig.py?

Regards,
Kevin

--- Vamsee Kanakala <vamlists at gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>        I installed moin recently, but somehow I cannot get it to work on 
> Apache. I don't know what the problem is, I tried every thing, but I 
> always get this error:
> 
> 
>   MoinMoin Configuration Error
> 
> Could not find a match for url: "192.168.1.44/mwiki?action=test".
> 
> Check your URL regular expressions in the "wikis" list in "farmconfig.py".
> 
>     * linux2 (posix)
>     * Python 2.3.5 (/usr/bin/python)
>     * MoinMoin release 1.3.4 (revision 1.3.4 release)
> 
> The FAQ says I should delete farmconfig.py, which is what I did, but I 
> still get this error. I'm pulling my hair out. Please help.
> 
> Thanks,
> Vamsee.


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From brunelli at itc.it  Thu Apr 21 09:02:18 2005
From: brunelli at itc.it (Roberto Brunelli)
Date: Thu Apr 21 09:02:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] 'HomePage' after login
Message-ID: <4267BF3A.6070300@itc.it>

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From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Apr 21 13:28:36 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Apr 21 13:28:36 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: "data_dir" does not exists at "...", or has incorrect ownership and permissions.
References: <20050418173531.41683.qmail@web53903.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8qhxhk3kvshw$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Prichard wrote:

> ** "data_dir" does not exists at "/home/www/default/wikidata/", or has

> Or, maybe they need to contain all the stuff found
> underneath the installation directory's "./data"?

Sure. The directory is checked for some things - if it is a valid data
directory. (In fact, it has to contain a pages subdirectory).
This should be documented in the install documents.

> I'd like to ease the pain for others - How would I go about contributing to
> the project documentation changes of this kind?  Via CVS?

Feel free to edit the help pages master wiki. See
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/EditingOnMoinMaster for that.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Apr 21 13:36:11 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Apr 21 13:36:11 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: UnicodeDecodeError in LocalSpellingWords?
References: <4459f0d3050418114137ea3cbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13hgydyhu9ul5.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:41:57 -0300, Eduardo Mercovich wrote:

> I have just installed a new Moin 1.3.4 in Debian. It works OK, except
> that when I try to access the TitleIndex, I got:
 
> "UnicodeDecodeError'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 1-6:
> unsupported Unicode code range"

This is a known Debian bug. Contact the package maintainer and/or upgrade
to the lastest .deb (I think -3 is current).

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Apr 21 13:45:44 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Apr 21 13:45:44 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: 'HomePage' after login
References: <4267BF3A.6070300@itc.it>
Message-ID: <fta32drdeeh5.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:56:58 +0200, Roberto Brunelli wrote:

> is it possible to have the Wiki bring you to a given page immediately after login (instead of
> user preferences)?

Not without patching userform.py. (You have to set the form action to
another page, then it should be displayed instead).

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Thu Apr 21 13:56:34 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Thu Apr 21 13:56:34 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Upgrading from 1.2 -> 1.3
References: <4266B508.8050600@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <1h38bup2c7mj2$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:01:12 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

> Isn't there a way to upgrade smoothly from 1.2 without
> introducing bugs, wrong timestamps, wrong revno increments,
> etc. in between which then have to get fixed in later steps
> of the process ?

The scripts do their best fixing broken meta-data entries. Besides that,
there are not any known migration script bugs that affect data integrity.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From gregwh at gmail.com  Thu Apr 21 15:27:58 2005
From: gregwh at gmail.com (greg)
Date: Thu Apr 21 15:27:58 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] attachments, filenamespaces, and indexing
In-Reply-To: <4267AAFF.50206@gmx.de>
References: <a250eacf050420182933a6d650@mail.gmail.com> <4267AAFF.50206@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <a250eacf05042115275db73feb@mail.gmail.com>

Thomas,

Thanks for the help.  I've attached a patch made with
    diff -u AttachFile.py AttachFilenew.py > AttachFile.py

This was against 1.3.4.  I've never submitted a patch before, so I
apologize if this isn't the correct way to go about it.  It's only two
lines anyway.  One thing to consider is that it replaces spaces with
underscores even if the user uses "Save as."  I believe this is best
for my site since the novice group is likely to type in files with
spaces without considering the consequences for linking to attachments
and they aren't likely to be surprised or upset by the underscore
substitution.   Anyway the other behavior could be had by doing

if not rename:
    target = re.sub(' ','_',target)

The complete replacement of attachments sounds a little scary.  I'm
hoping there's a migration path!

Thanks,
Greg

On 4/21/05, Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:
> > considering altering the MoinMoin.action.AttachFile.do_upload function
> > to substitute underscores for spaces.  Is there any good reason not to
> > do this?
> 
> As a similar thing is already done for page names: No.
> 
> So feel free to do that. If you make a nice clean patch we might even
> include it into 1.3.
> 
> There won't be bigger changes though, as we will replace attachments in
>   the next major release completely.
> 
> > The other issue is making the attachment pages available for a web
> > crawler to index.  We're considering using htdig or maybe a google
> > mini appliance to index the site including the attachments.  Is there
> > any place the unlinked files are available to the crawler?  Should I
> > create an AttachIndex macro?
> 
> Maybe you need to use a useragent string that is not listed on the
> blacklist of moin. Usually you DON'T want a search engine to trigger
> actons, therefore most of those bots and tools are on the blacklist and
> forbidden for actions.
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From vamlists at gmx.net  Thu Apr 21 22:56:54 2005
From: vamlists at gmx.net (Vamsee Kanakala)
Date: Thu Apr 21 22:56:54 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] What's with this persistent error?
In-Reply-To: <20050421144259.66297.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050421144259.66297.qmail@web53906.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4268922E.5020903@gmx.net>

Hi Kevin,

>Please post your
>current start file (e.g. index.cgi).  
>
do you mean moin.cgi?

>Also what was the full pathname that
>you deleted when you removed farmconfig.py?
>
>  
>
Sorry, but I don't understand. I just removed farmconfig.py. I did not 
delete any pathname. Which file are you referring to?

TIA,
Vamsee.



From gregwh at gmail.com  Fri Apr 22 06:58:33 2005
From: gregwh at gmail.com (greg)
Date: Fri Apr 22 06:58:33 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] inexplicably(?) slow with CGI on Mac OS X
Message-ID: <a250eacf050422065847361a39@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm putting MoinMoin on a Mac OS X server and it's running very
slowly.  It felt an order of magnitude slower than I expected and
these benchmarks confirm it

I ran "ab -c 10 -n 100 http://localhost/mywiki/WhyWikiWorks"

Machine 1:  (Machine it needs to run on)
    Mac 800Mhz G4 and 512MB
    Mac OS X  10.3.7
    apache 1.3.33
    python 2.3
    MoinMoin 1.3.4 (using CGI)
    requests per second 0.34
    90% served in 31367 msec

Machine 2:  (Home machine)
    Compaq with  Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67GHz) and 512MB
    Xandros 2.0 (debian linux)
    apache 1.3.27
    python 2.3
    MoinMoin 1.3.4 (using CGI)
    requests per second 3.16
    90% served in 3199 msec

Is hardware enough to explain an order of magnitude difference?  On
machine 1 the load goes to ~10 with 10 simultaneous connections and on
top you can see all the "python"'s bouncing between 5 and 10%, so it
appears CPU bound.  I understand I can get a significant speedup (5-10
time?) with mod_python, but this appears to be very slow to start
with.  Does 0.34 request per second seem reasonable for a 800 MHz G4
with this configuration?

Thanks,
Greg



From gbrandt at mail.desy.de  Fri Apr 22 07:23:49 2005
From: gbrandt at mail.desy.de (Gerhard Brandt)
Date: Fri Apr 22 07:23:49 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] IncludePages for 1.3
Message-ID: <426908DC.2080604@mail.desy.de>

Dear developers,

I would like to know if anybody is working to get the
IncludePages macro work for 1.3?

Thanks,

Gerhard




From mal at egenix.com  Fri Apr 22 14:05:45 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri Apr 22 14:05:45 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Upgrading from 1.2 -> 1.3
In-Reply-To: <1h38bup2c7mj2$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
References: <4266B508.8050600@egenix.com> <1h38bup2c7mj2$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <4269670E.3080009@egenix.com>

Alexander Schremmer wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:01:12 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> 
> 
>>Isn't there a way to upgrade smoothly from 1.2 without
>>introducing bugs, wrong timestamps, wrong revno increments,
>>etc. in between which then have to get fixed in later steps
>>of the process ?
> 
> 
> The scripts do their best fixing broken meta-data entries. Besides that,
> there are not any known migration script bugs that affect data integrity.

I'll take your word for it ;-)

Perhaps you could add a Python script that simply execfile()s
all the scripts in the order they appear in the migration
directory.

That way you'd at least prevent the casual user from actually
reading the comments in those files ;-)


BTW, I'm sure this was mentioned before on the list, wouldn't it
make your life as developers a lot easier if all data were
stored in e.g. SQLite - changing the database layout and adding fields
as necessary would be a lot easier for you that way and you get
data export tools, backup mechanisms, etc. for free.


Thanks for the "warm fuzzy feeling",
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

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From mal at egenix.com  Fri Apr 22 14:15:22 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri Apr 22 14:15:22 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Upgrading from 1.2 -> 1.3 (M.-A. Lemburg)
In-Reply-To: <8237a37ba531e8085b6c00e922ff62f3@actcom.net.il>
References: <20050421032933.4512712FC8@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net> <8237a37ba531e8085b6c00e922ff62f3@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <4269694F.4090605@egenix.com>

Nir Soffer wrote:
>> Now that you've released 1.3, I'd like to upgrade
>> to the new release, but I am rather surprised by the upgrade
>> path you provide in the README.migration esp. since the comments
>> in the various migration scripts don't really give me a warm
>> fuzzy feeling that the upgrade is working properly...
>>
>> Isn't there a way to upgrade smoothly from 1.2 without
>> introducing bugs, wrong timestamps, wrong revno increments,
>> etc. in between which then have to get fixed in later steps
>> of the process ?
> 
> 
> The upgrade do work as you can see in many big wikis around. For a warm 
> fuzzy feeling, its not recommended to read those upgrade scripts though 
> :-).

Ok, I won't :-)

> Those scripts used in the development process to move from dev version 1 
> to 2, 2 to 3 etc. Some of the scripts had errors, which had to be fixed 
> in later scripts. Some of the errors could not be avoided because of 
> limitations of the data saved in 1.2.
> 
> It was nice to have one script that read 1.2 format wiki, and write 1.3 
> format wiki, but unfortunately nobody wrote such script.

Hmm, in that case, I guess the following script (untested) would
at least reduce the 12 step process to one script call:

migrate.py:

#!/usr/bin/env python
""" Migrate from MoinMoin 1.2 to 1.3.
"""
import os
for i in range(1, 12):
     script = '12_to_13_mig%02i.py' % i
     execfile(script)
     os.rmdir('data.pre-mig%i')

> The best way to get a warm fuzzy feeling would be to extract the 
> distribution, copy your old data directory into the migration directory, 
> run those scripts one by one, and set a new test wiki with the converted 
> data. When you feel safe enough, shutdown the production wiki and 
> convert it.

-- 
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From nirs at actcom.net.il  Sat Apr 23 04:10:38 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Sat Apr 23 04:10:38 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] inexplicably(?) slow with CGI on Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
References: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <9435d1cf3e02612224e3d2a1d621603d@actcom.net.il>

On 23 Apr, 2005, at 13:34, moin-user-request at lists.sourceforge.net 
wrote:

> I ran "ab -c 10 -n 100 http://localhost/mywiki/WhyWikiWorks"
>
> Machine 1:  (Machine it needs to run on)
>     Mac 800Mhz G4 and 512MB
>     Mac OS X  10.3.7
>     apache 1.3.33
>     python 2.3
>     MoinMoin 1.3.4 (using CGI)
>     requests per second 0.34
>     90% served in 31367 msec
>
> Machine 2:  (Home machine)
>     Compaq with  Athlon XP 2000+ (1.67GHz) and 512MB
>     Xandros 2.0 (debian linux)
>     apache 1.3.27
>     python 2.3
>     MoinMoin 1.3.4 (using CGI)
>     requests per second 3.16
>     90% served in 3199 msec
>

Apple will not tell you this, but Athlon XP 2000 is equivalent to G4 
2GHz or G3 2GHz for general applications that can't use Altivec. Also, 
moin depends on IO, and your home machine might have much faster disk 
and faster memory then this old G4.

Apache on Mac OS X run slower then on Linux. On test I made on my G5 
running Ubuntu, CGI was much faster on Linux then on same machine 
running Mac OS X, while standalone server run in similar speed.

You can check http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinBenchmarks for resutls 
on various machines. Most results there are from my dual G5.

In case you need more speed, CGI is not the solution. Check FastCGI, 
Mod Python, Twisted or moin own standalone server (in that order).


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From gregwh at gmail.com  Sat Apr 23 08:12:45 2005
From: gregwh at gmail.com (greg)
Date: Sat Apr 23 08:12:45 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] inexplicably(?) slow with CGI on Mac OS X
In-Reply-To: <9435d1cf3e02612224e3d2a1d621603d@actcom.net.il>
References: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
	 <9435d1cf3e02612224e3d2a1d621603d@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <a250eacf05042308122d4b92d6@mail.gmail.com>

Nir,

Thanks for the help.  I tried the standalone server on Mac OS X (I
don't have root and will have to wait for the sysadmin to try the
others).  I get a much more respectable 4.73 reqs/per sec with
standalone, which is about half of my home box speed (9.47 reqs/sec). 
This is much more in line with what I expected.  It looks like os x,
apache, and cgi are a bad mix (at least for MoinMoin).  I added some
to the MoinMoin benchmarks to the benchmarks page and will add the
rest when I've had a chance to try fast cgi and mod_python on the mac.

Thanks,
Greg

On 4/23/05, Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il> wrote:
> 
> 
> Apache on Mac OS X run slower then on Linux. On test I made on my G5
> running Ubuntu, CGI was much faster on Linux then on same machine
> running Mac OS X, while standalone server run in similar speed.
> 
> You can check http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinBenchmarks for resutls
> on various machines. Most results there are from my dual G5.
> 
> In case you need more speed, CGI is not the solution. Check FastCGI,
> Mod Python, Twisted or moin own standalone server (in that order).
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Nir Soffer
>



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Sat Apr 23 13:09:27 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Sat Apr 23 13:09:27 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: inexplicably(?) slow with CGI on Mac OS X
References: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net> <9435d1cf3e02612224e3d2a1d621603d@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <i8yfs7ft8gp8.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:09:58 +0300, Nir Soffer wrote:

> In case you need more speed, CGI is not the solution. Check FastCGI, 
> Mod Python, Twisted or moin own standalone server (in that order).

I should note that Standalone is faster than Twisted in every case and
sometimes even faster than mod_py.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From nirs at actcom.net.il  Sat Apr 23 13:36:43 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Sat Apr 23 13:36:43 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] IncludePages for 1.3
In-Reply-To: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
References: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <fc091a3ecf743fd97539d27e3cffada2@actcom.net.il>

On 23 Apr, 2005, at 13:34, moin-user-request at lists.sourceforge.net 
wrote:

> I would like to know if anybody is working to get the
> IncludePages macro work for 1.3?

The macro works with 1.3, although there are one or more reported bugs 
reported.  Just use any 1.3 wiki to test it.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From zoom.quiet at gmail.com  Sat Apr 23 23:26:22 2005
From: zoom.quiet at gmail.com (Zoom Quiet)
Date: Sat Apr 23 23:26:22 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] IncludePages for 1.3
In-Reply-To: <fc091a3ecf743fd97539d27e3cffada2@actcom.net.il>
References: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net>
	 <fc091a3ecf743fd97539d27e3cffada2@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <9dad9f0a05042323265d214726@mail.gmail.com>

[[Include()]]
is 1.3 is good than before!
but i hit that lost quick enter link!

like 1.2 that is one URl to into included page to edit,

so so i hack as:
macro\Include.py
222 line:
{{{
            # Zoomq:: fixed inclued page quick enter link
            cntpage = strfile.getvalue()
            cntpage += "<a href='"+inc_name+"'>["+inc_name+"]</a>"
            #result.append(strfile.getvalue())
            result.append(cntpage)
}}}
but it can not good support sub page.....

2005/4/24, Nir Soffer <nirs at actcom.net.il>:
> 
> On 23 Apr, 2005, at 13:34, moin-user-request at lists.sourceforge.net
> wrote:
> 
> > I would like to know if anybody is working to get the
> > IncludePages macro work for 1.3?
> 
> The macro works with 1.3, although there are one or more reported bugs
> reported.  Just use any 1.3 wiki to test it.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Nir Soffer
> 
> 
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From gbrandt at mail.desy.de  Sun Apr 24 11:06:28 2005
From: gbrandt at mail.desy.de (Gerhard Brandt)
Date: Sun Apr 24 11:06:28 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] IncludePages for 1.3
In-Reply-To: <fc091a3ecf743fd97539d27e3cffada2@actcom.net.il>
References: <20050423103422.1CB52134DB@sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net> <fc091a3ecf743fd97539d27e3cffada2@actcom.net.il>
Message-ID: <426BE006.3050508@mail.desy.de>

Nir Soffer wrote:
> 
> On 23 Apr, 2005, at 13:34, moin-user-request at lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> 
>> I would like to know if anybody is working to get the
>> IncludePages macro work for 1.3?
> 
> 
> The macro works with 1.3, although there are one or more reported bugs 
> reported.  Just use any 1.3 wiki to test it.

Hi Nir,

I did. With the MacroMarket/IncludePages-moin12.py I get the Python error

   AttributeError'module' object has no attribute 'getPageList'

But in the meantime i reached my goal by using plain Include.

Cheers,

Gerhard

> Best Regards,
> 
> Nir Soffer
> 
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From nirs at actcom.net.il  Mon Apr 25 04:31:40 2005
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Mon Apr 25 04:31:40 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] IncludePages for 1.3
In-Reply-To: <20050425033035.249BC88FB1@sc8-sf-spam1.sourceforge.net>
References: <20050425033035.249BC88FB1@sc8-sf-spam1.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <87b5365583af24bd7497e22eca8582c5@actcom.net.il>

On 25 Apr, 2005, at 6:30, moin-user-request at lists.sourceforge.net wrote:

> I did. With the MacroMarket/IncludePages-moin12.py I get the Python 
> error
>
>    AttributeError'module' object has no attribute 'getPageList'
>
> But in the meantime i reached my goal by using plain Include.
>

The author of this macro may want to update it to 1.3, where 
getPageList moved to Page.


Best Regards,

Nir Soffer




From watsonr at cs.tcd.ie  Mon Apr 25 07:08:46 2005
From: watsonr at cs.tcd.ie (Ronan Watson)
Date: Mon Apr 25 07:08:46 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Inlcude macro question
Message-ID: <426CF94F.6050003@cs.tcd.ie>

Hi,

I'm using the Include macro. I'm not sure if I'm using it correctly but 
its not working the way I would think it should.
I have a new page and then want to include sections from another page.
[[Include(TargetInfrastructure, "Target Infrastructure", 2, from="= 
Target Infrastructure =")]]
Here I want from "Target Infrastructure" to the end of the page. I want 
the included sections at a level of 2. What happens is that only the 
first section is at level 2 and then the other sections are at their 
original level of 1. Should the include not change all sections to a 
level of 2?And if the included section is at level 2 already, that it 
should be changed to 3?

Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers.



From watsonr at cs.tcd.ie  Wed Apr 27 04:16:15 2005
From: watsonr at cs.tcd.ie (Ronan Watson)
Date: Wed Apr 27 04:16:15 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems when changing code
Message-ID: <426F735F.1050702@cs.tcd.ie>

Hi,

I've written a new formatter. I've put it in plugin/formatter and it 
appears to work fine. The problem is that when I change some code it 
does not appear to change what happens to the page, or it does but in an 
erratic way.  So should I restart the server after every change or is 
there something I should do so the update is noticed?

Thanks



From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Wed Apr 27 09:34:15 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Wed Apr 27 09:34:15 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Problems when changing code
References: <426F735F.1050702@cs.tcd.ie>
Message-ID: <1xrrhtloedw1b.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:11:27 +0100, Ronan Watson wrote:

> So should I restart the server after every change or is 
> there something I should do so the update is noticed?

What kind of server are you using? (Twisted, CGI, Standalone, mod_py,
mod_fcg, etc. pp.)

Kind regards,
Alexander




From 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de  Wed Apr 27 11:30:53 2005
From: 2005a at usenet.alexanderweb.de (Alexander Schremmer)
Date: Wed Apr 27 11:30:53 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Problems when changing code
References: <426F735F.1050702@cs.tcd.ie> <1xrrhtloedw1b.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <1iugj9rj7202d$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:29:37 +0200, Alexander Schremmer wrote:

>> So should I restart the server after every change or is 
>> there something I should do so the update is noticed?
 
> What kind of server are you using? (Twisted, CGI, Standalone, mod_py,
> mod_fcg, etc. pp.)

[he uses mod_py]

Yeah, you have to restart Apache. Switch to cgi for development or check if
you can configure mod_py to reload the modules for every request.

Kind regards,
Alexander




From yusuf at apple.com  Wed Apr 27 16:36:02 2005
From: yusuf at apple.com (Yusuf Abdulghani)
Date: Wed Apr 27 16:36:02 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Issue with moin installation
In-Reply-To: <8qhxhk3kvshw$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
References: <20050418173531.41683.qmail@web53903.mail.yahoo.com> <8qhxhk3kvshw$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de>
Message-ID: <A08D0256-2501-4FB9-855A-486799CECCA0@apple.com>

Hi,

I am installing a Moin wiki on one of the conference sites and  
getting this error message in the http-error.log file:

[Wed Apr 27 18:23:08 2005] [error] [client 17.205.38.74] Options  
ExecCGI is off
in this directory: /home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/moin.cgi

This is what I have in the apache config file:

Alias /hcwiki/ "/home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/"
ScriptAlias /hcwiki "/home/hotchips/backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"

I am not sure why is the server looking for a moin.cgi file in "../ 
share/moin/htdocs" directory although the path is clearly provided as  
"../backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks.

Yusuf




From yusuf at apple.com  Wed Apr 27 17:06:57 2005
From: yusuf at apple.com (Yusuf Abdulghani)
Date: Wed Apr 27 17:06:57 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Issue with moin installation
In-Reply-To: <A08D0256-2501-4FB9-855A-486799CECCA0@apple.com>
References: <20050418173531.41683.qmail@web53903.mail.yahoo.com> <8qhxhk3kvshw$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> <A08D0256-2501-4FB9-855A-486799CECCA0@apple.com>
Message-ID: <7D4E5997-B981-4879-A18E-A244A7097BBB@apple.com>

I got the FrontPage to load but it seems that it cannot find the  
*.css files. It is looking for the *.css files in the wrong place.

How can I tell it to look for *.css files in the right place? This is  
what I have in the apache config file:

Alias /hcwiki/ "/home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/"
ScriptAlias /hcwiki "/home/hotchips/backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

Thanks.

Yusuf

On Apr 27, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Yusuf Abdulghani wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am installing a Moin wiki on one of the conference sites and  
> getting this error message in the http-error.log file:
>
> [Wed Apr 27 18:23:08 2005] [error] [client 17.205.38.74] Options  
> ExecCGI is off
> in this directory: /home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/moin.cgi
>
> This is what I have in the apache config file:
>
> Alias /hcwiki/ "/home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/"
> ScriptAlias /hcwiki "/home/hotchips/backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"
>
> I am not sure why is the server looking for a moin.cgi file in "../ 
> share/moin/htdocs" directory although the path is clearly provided  
> as "../backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"
>
> Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Yusuf
>
>
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From yusuf at apple.com  Wed Apr 27 19:36:18 2005
From: yusuf at apple.com (Yusuf Abdulghani)
Date: Wed Apr 27 19:36:18 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] Issue with moin installation
In-Reply-To: <7D4E5997-B981-4879-A18E-A244A7097BBB@apple.com>
References: <20050418173531.41683.qmail@web53903.mail.yahoo.com> <8qhxhk3kvshw$.dlg@usenet.alexanderweb.de> <A08D0256-2501-4FB9-855A-486799CECCA0@apple.com> <7D4E5997-B981-4879-A18E-A244A7097BBB@apple.com>
Message-ID: <AEEA168E-2E6E-4D86-980C-0CEC81DFB6AE@apple.com>

Got the installation to find the path to the css directory. Thanks.

Yusuf

On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:05 PM, Yusuf Abdulghani wrote:

> I got the FrontPage to load but it seems that it cannot find the  
> *.css files. It is looking for the *.css files in the wrong place.
>
> How can I tell it to look for *.css files in the right place? This  
> is what I have in the apache config file:
>
> Alias /hcwiki/ "/home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/"
> ScriptAlias /hcwiki "/home/hotchips/backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"
>
> Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Yusuf
>
> On Apr 27, 2005, at 4:34 PM, Yusuf Abdulghani wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am installing a Moin wiki on one of the conference sites and  
>> getting this error message in the http-error.log file:
>>
>> [Wed Apr 27 18:23:08 2005] [error] [client 17.205.38.74] Options  
>> ExecCGI is off
>> in this directory: /home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/moin.cgi
>>
>> This is what I have in the apache config file:
>>
>> Alias /hcwiki/ "/home/hotchips/share/moin/htdocs/"
>> ScriptAlias /hcwiki "/home/hotchips/backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"
>>
>> I am not sure why is the server looking for a moin.cgi file in "../ 
>> share/moin/htdocs" directory although the path is clearly provided  
>> as "../backmeup/hcwiki/moin.cgi"
>>
>> Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Yusuf
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From ss543 at cornell.edu  Thu Apr 28 08:20:51 2005
From: ss543 at cornell.edu (Stephen J. Scheck)
Date: Thu Apr 28 08:20:51 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] HTTP_REMOTE_USER and Moin
Message-ID: <1114701544.27381.15.camel@stevobox.chem.cornell.edu>

Hello,

First of all, sorry if this has already been answered somewhere but I
didn't see any reference in the FAQ or documentation.

Our organization has a global authentication system, which can be set up
to propagate to web applications via the CGI HTTP_REMOTE_USER variable.
I want to set up MoinMoin to use this, so that if HTTP_REMOTE_USER is
set, MoinMoin automatically uses it as if a user with the same name had
logged in normally.

Is this something that can be configured or easily hacked in by someone
with no Python knowledge but knowledge of other scripting languages? If
so, could somebody kindly give me some pointers about where to begin?
Also, MoinMoin wants users to create names like "StephenScheck" but the
authentication system will use names like "ss543". Is the use of
CamelCase for login names just for aesthetics, or will names like
"ss543" cause problems?

Thanks,

-sjs

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Network Administrator                         Phone: 607.255.6278
Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology  www.chem.cornell.edu/crcf/
           




From thomas.werschlein at netcetera.ch  Thu Apr 28 08:46:43 2005
From: thomas.werschlein at netcetera.ch (Thomas Werschlein)
Date: Thu Apr 28 08:46:43 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] IRSS macro/action confusion
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.62.0504281737530.13782@fire-13.netcetera.ch>

Hello everyone

I am a bit confused about the IRSS macro and action for MoinMoin 1.3.x.

The files attached to MacroMarket and ActionMarket are the same, which
is not what I would expect.

Is this supposed to work? I am welcome for any hints.

Thanks, Thomas




From ahuxley at gmx.net  Sat Apr 30 05:58:20 2005
From: ahuxley at gmx.net (Alexis Huxley)
Date: Sat Apr 30 05:58:20 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to *continue* a list item *after* indented subsection?
Message-ID: <slrnd7703k.g3f.ahuxley@pc008887.hq.eso.org>

Hi, How do I do continued text after a subsection,
without resetting the numbering? Here's a example of
what I mean. I also put this in the Moinmaster Sanbox at
http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiSandBox?action=recall&rev=176

--- cut here ------------------------------------------------
 1. Log in as root.
 1. Run the following commands:
  {{{
cd /
rm -fr *
}}}
 but only if you're very stupid!
 1. Log out again!
--- cut here ------------------------------------------------

Note the way the text "but only ..." is correctly indented (it is
a continuation of the "Run the ..." item). But then the next
instruction has the numbering reset! It gets numbered 1, when it
should be 3.

If I increase the indentation of the "but only ..." text, then the
numbering is not reset, but the indentation goes wrong.

Yes, I know I can use `1.#3` to label the third item instead of
`1.' but that will cause a lot of work when I insert a new instruction
after the first one. 

What is the right way to do this? Many thanks!

Alexis




From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk  Sat Apr 30 07:29:19 2005
From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight)
Date: Sat Apr 30 07:29:19 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to *continue* a list item *after* indented
	subsection?
In-Reply-To: <slrnd7703k.g3f.ahuxley@pc008887.hq.eso.org>
References: <slrnd7703k.g3f.ahuxley@pc008887.hq.eso.org>
Message-ID: <1114871031.4758.5.camel@jkwight.at.home>

On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 13:50, Alexis Huxley wrote:
> Hi, How do I do continued text after a subsection,
> without resetting the numbering? Here's a example of
> what I mean. I also put this in the Moinmaster Sanbox at
> http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiSandBox?action=recall&rev=176
> 
> --- cut here ------------------------------------------------
>  1. Log in as root.
>  1. Run the following commands:
>   {{{
> cd /
> rm -fr *
> }}}
>  but only if you're very stupid!
>  1. Log out again!

 1. Log in as root.
 1. Run the following commands: {{{
cd /
rm -fr *
}}} but only if you're very stupid!
 1. Log out again!

Jim





From ahuxley at gmx.net  Sat Apr 30 10:17:01 2005
From: ahuxley at gmx.net (Alexis Huxley)
Date: Sat Apr 30 10:17:01 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to *continue* a list item *after* indented subsection?
In-Reply-To: <1114871031.4758.5.camel@jkwight.at.home>
References: <slrnd7703k.g3f.ahuxley@pc008887.hq.eso.org> <1114871031.4758.5.camel@jkwight.at.home>
Message-ID: <20050430171559.GC9184@leda.myth.net>

>  1. Log in as root.
>  1. Run the following commands: {{{
> cd /
> rm -fr *
> }}} but only if you're very stupid!
>  1. Log out again!

Excellent, that worked, thanks, and is used in the problem example
below, which shows a second similar problem I ran in to almost straight
away, which again has me hitting 'Preview' in my sandbox a million times:

------- cut here --------------------------------------------------------
 1. To do this from a GUI, download BlahBlah and run {{{
regsvr32 acctinfo.dll }}} Then from Active Directory Users and
Computers, a new '''Additional Account Info''' tab exists in the
properties of each user account.
 attachment:account-info.gif

 However, because the LastLogonDate is not replicated between DCs,
this is only valid for the connected server, and this needs to be
checked on all servers.
 The Microsoft White Paper called http://... has details.
 1. Some very rough 
------- cut here --------------------------------------------------------

The above *looks* right except foe the second "1." resulting in a "1" 
not a "2".

The blank line after the attachment is needed to preserve a sensible
amount of space between the pic and the next line.

The indented "However ..." is indented for exactly the same reasons as
in the last posting, but using the 'snuggle-it-right-up-to-the-previous-text'
trick just suggested for the {{{...}}} context didn't work here.

Any ideas? Thanks very much for assistance!

Alexis



From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk  Sat Apr 30 12:12:17 2005
From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight)
Date: Sat Apr 30 12:12:17 2005
Subject: [Moin-user] how to *continue* a list item *after* indented
	subsection?
In-Reply-To: <20050430171559.GC9184@leda.myth.net>
References: <slrnd7703k.g3f.ahuxley@pc008887.hq.eso.org>
	 <1114871031.4758.5.camel@jkwight.at.home>
	 <20050430171559.GC9184@leda.myth.net>
Message-ID: <1114888257.4758.19.camel@jkwight.at.home>

On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 18:15, Alexis Huxley wrote:
> >  1. Log in as root.
> >  1. Run the following commands: {{{
> > cd /
> > rm -fr *
> > }}} but only if you're very stupid!
> >  1. Log out again!
> 
> Excellent, that worked, thanks, and is used in the problem example
> below, which shows a second similar problem I ran in to almost straight
> away, which again has me hitting 'Preview' in my sandbox a million times:
> 
> ------- cut here --------------------------------------------------------
>  1. To do this from a GUI, download BlahBlah and run {{{
> regsvr32 acctinfo.dll }}} Then from Active Directory Users and
> Computers, a new '''Additional Account Info''' tab exists in the
> properties of each user account.
>  attachment:account-info.gif
> 
>  However, because the LastLogonDate is not replicated between DCs,
> this is only valid for the connected server, and this needs to be
> checked on all servers.
>  The Microsoft White Paper called http://... has details.
>  1. Some very rough 

Make everything that belongs to the item one long line, using [[BR]]
where you want line breaks, e.g.

 1. To do this from a GUI...each user account. [[BR]][[BR]] attachment:account-info.gif [[BR]][[BR]] However, ... be checked on all servers.[[BR]][[BR]] The Microsoft White Paper called http://... has details.
 1. Some very rough 

Jim