From matt.price at utoronto.ca  Tue May  4 08:45:02 2004
From: matt.price at utoronto.ca (Matt Price)
Date: Tue May  4 08:45:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Viewing/editing MoinMoin wikis using a decent editor?
In-Reply-To: <16530.22350.790875.195781@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <16530.22350.790875.195781@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <20040504154347.GA3011@utoronto.ca>

If you use mozilla-firefox, and maybe plain old mozilla-browser, there
is at least one  plugin listed in the 'extensions room' at mozdev.org that
allow you to invoke an external editor when editing a textarea.  
matt

On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 08:40:30AM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> 
> Using HTML <textarea> widgets to edit large amounts of text is - at best -
> cumbersome.  I thought I might have better luck editing MoinMoin wiki pages
> through Emacs/w3.  I gave it a peek quick look, but the Wiki appearance
> sucks badly when viewed through w3.  Is that a CSS issue or is there
> something else amiss?
> 
> The thought occurs to me that a special purpose script which visits the
> EditText link, saves the text to a file then invokes gnuclient might work
> (the reverses the process when gnuclient exits), but that also seems pretty
> cumbersome,
> 
> Does anyone have other ideas for avoiding my browser's <textarea> widget
> when editing wiki pages?
> 
> Thanks,
> 



From matt at overlook.homelinux.net  Tue May  4 08:56:06 2004
From: matt at overlook.homelinux.net (Matthew Wilson)
Date: Tue May  4 08:56:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Viewing/editing MoinMoin wikis using a decent editor?
In-Reply-To: <20040504154347.GA3011@utoronto.ca>
References: <16530.22350.790875.195781@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20040504154347.GA3011@utoronto.ca>
Message-ID: <20040504160854.GA20406@frank.overlook.homelinux.net>

On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:43:47AM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> If you use mozilla-firefox, and maybe plain old mozilla-browser, there
> is at least one  plugin listed in the 'extensions room' at mozdev.org that
> allow you to invoke an external editor when editing a textarea.  
> matt

That sounds really neat.  What is it called?

-- 
My public key:
gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net 0x8D10BFD5



From skip at pobox.com  Tue May  4 10:21:01 2004
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Tue May  4 10:21:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Viewing/editing MoinMoin wikis using a decent editor?
In-Reply-To: <20040504160854.GA20406@frank.overlook.homelinux.net>
References: <16530.22350.790875.195781@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <20040504154347.GA3011@utoronto.ca>
        <20040504160854.GA20406@frank.overlook.homelinux.net>
Message-ID: <16535.53461.57232.4413@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    Matt> On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:43:47AM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
    >> If you use mozilla-firefox, and maybe plain old mozilla-browser, there
    >> is at least one  plugin listed in the 'extensions room' at mozdev.org that
    >> allow you to invoke an external editor when editing a textarea.  
    >> matt

    Matt> That sounds really neat.  What is it called?

It is really neat.  It's called Mozex.  Check

    http://mozex.mozdev.org/

I'm now on the lookout for something similar which works with Safari.

Skip



From sandrock at student.uni-kassel.de  Fri May  7 04:11:13 2004
From: sandrock at student.uni-kassel.de (Arne Sandrock)
Date: Fri May  7 04:11:13 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] caching pages
Message-ID: <001501c43423$ec0ab180$3200a8c0@Notebookas>

Hi,

I have a problem with the caching of the wiki pages. When I open a page
the attached picures will not show up, altought the attached picures are
older than the last caching of the page. When I press: RefreshCache the
picures are coming up. Any ideas?

Thanks

Arne




From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri May  7 09:52:03 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri May  7 09:52:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] caching pages
In-Reply-To: <001501c43423$ec0ab180$3200a8c0@Notebookas>
References: <001501c43423$ec0ab180$3200a8c0@Notebookas>
Message-ID: <409BBE89.1020208@gmx.de>

> I have a problem with the caching of the wiki pages. When I open a page
> the attached picures will not show up, altought the attached picures are
> older than the last caching of the page. When I press: RefreshCache the
> picures are coming up. Any ideas?

If you are accessing the page via multiple server names, it might have 
cached the first which is maybe inaccessible when browsing with the 
second one.

E.g.:

First access via 192.168.0.1 (gets cached)

Second access from the internet via www.whatever.com - can't reach stuff 
on 192.168.0.1...

This will be fixed in 1.2.2 by omitting the server part.



From lan at falleagle.net  Tue May 11 09:50:05 2004
From: lan at falleagle.net (Lan Barnes)
Date: Tue May 11 09:50:05 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Can't get acl's to work
Message-ID: <20040511164903.GA6513@falleagle.net>

I'm working in moin 1.2 under Red Hat 9. I have added the line (in col
0) 

#acl lbarnes:read

... to the top of a page, and the line

acl_enable = 1

... to the wiki's moin_config.py, but ut has no effect. I stopped and
started httpd to no effect. What am I missing?

-- 
Lan Barnes                    lan at falleagle.net
Linux Guy, SCM Specialist     858-354-0616



From sasdtp at sas.com  Tue May 11 10:49:09 2004
From: sasdtp at sas.com (Don Poitras)
Date: Tue May 11 10:49:09 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Linking to attachments with spaces
In-Reply-To: <40030DB5.2080109@sas.com> from "Don Poitras" at Jan 12, 2004 04:12:21 PM
Message-ID: <200405111744.NAA07130@login020.unx.sas.com>

Well,
   I've now learned enough Python to at least take a stab at doing
this. I can now have file names with embeded blanks. I would still
like to get the AttachFile action to display the files with the
needed syntax (quotes just around the file name). Here's my diff.
I basically just changed the regexp to allow anything beginning
and ending with quotes to be found and then stripped them off later.
I have no doubt that purists will chide me for something here, but
remember, this is the first python code (other than 'hello.py') that
I've ever written. :)

[/usr/local/lib/python2.3/MoinMoin/parser]diff wiki.py wiki.py.orig
48c48
<     url_rule =
r'%(url_guard)s(%(url)s)\:((\".*\")|(([^\s\<%(punct)s]|([%(punct)s][^\s\<%(punct
)s]))+))'
% {
---
 >     url_rule =
r'%(url_guard)s(%(url)s)\:([^\s\<%(punct)s]|([%(punct)s][^\s\<%(punct)s]))+'
% {
220,224d219
<         if fname[0] == '\"' and fname[-1] == '\"':
<             newname = fname[1:-1]
<             fname = newname
<             newname = url[1:-1]
<             url = newname



> 
> ** <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6927126>I 
> guess I'll just add another ping to request that this gets added in to 
> the base product. I asked about this last year and found:
> 
>  >From: Leslie A. Barnes <leslie at am...>
>  >MoinMoin mods
>  >2003-04-18 08:47
>  >
>  > We've made a couple of minor changes to MoinMoin locally.
>  >
>  > 1) allow attachments to be quoted.
>  >
>  > eg. attach:"my file name.xls"
>  >
>  > which some people had asked for. It's a straightforward change
>  > to url_rule regexp and attachment() in parser/wiki.py
>  >
> 
> I wrote to Leslie and he said that the changes he made have been sent 
> in, but no one seems to know where the code went. If anyone has the 
> code, I'd really appreciate a copy. Although it may be a 
> "straightforward change", I just haven't gotten to the point where my 
> Python skills are such that I can figure out how to do it. Yes, I know 
> there is a work around. Yes, I accept that it can muck other things up. 
> My users are not that computer-literate and if they get stymied in using 
> attachments or have to jump through hoops, they'll just give up. I seem 
> to remember someone posting a way to get moin to create slide show pages 
> and that is mainly what people at my site want to do. Thumbnails are 
> also needed, though, so just slide show isn't enough (these are just 
> family snapshots, not Powerpoint presentations.) Thanks for any help.
> -- 
> Don Poitras
-- 
Don Poitras



From skip at pobox.com  Wed May 12 10:38:04 2004
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Wed May 12 10:38:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Migrating from another wiki to MoinMoin?
Message-ID: <16546.24854.487631.724968@montanaro.dyndns.org>

At work I naively snuck Moin into the mix and stirred things up a bit.
Seems the folks maintaining the current local wiki (built with Wikki Tikki
Tavi - <http://tavi.sourceforge.net/>) are now considering a move to Moin.

Is it possible to do a batch upload into Moin?  Assume for the moment that
getting the pages out of MySQL is no problem and that the markup dialects
are not so different that I couldn't whip up a 90% solution for the
translation problem.

Thanks,

-- 
Skip Montanaro
Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/submit.html
Got spam? http://www.spambayes.org/
skip at pobox.com



From vriens at ciberania.cl  Wed May 12 11:59:11 2004
From: vriens at ciberania.cl (Marijn P. Vriens)
Date: Wed May 12 11:59:11 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Migrating from another wiki to MoinMoin?
In-Reply-To: <16546.24854.487631.724968@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <16546.24854.487631.724968@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <1084388672.22587.3.camel@guajiro.loc>

On Wed, 2004-05-12 at 13:38, Skip Montanaro wrote:
> At work I naively snuck Moin into the mix and stirred things up a bit.
> Seems the folks maintaining the current local wiki (built with Wikki Tikki
> Tavi - <http://tavi.sourceforge.net/>) are now considering a move to Moin.
> 
> Is it possible to do a batch upload into Moin?  Assume for the moment that
> getting the pages out of MySQL is no problem and that the markup dialects
> are not so different that I couldn't whip up a 90% solution for the
> translation problem.
> 

I guess that all that it takes is generating the files (in wiki format)
in data/text/ . Of course, this isn't enough if you also want to move
version histories, etc.  

> Thanks,
-- 
Windows comes from a box. Linux comes from a community.




From skip at pobox.com  Wed May 12 13:12:04 2004
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Wed May 12 13:12:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Migrating from another wiki to MoinMoin?
In-Reply-To: <1084388672.22587.3.camel@guajiro.loc>
References: <16546.24854.487631.724968@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <1084388672.22587.3.camel@guajiro.loc>
Message-ID: <16546.34085.786758.623833@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    >> Is it possible to do a batch upload into Moin?  Assume for the moment
    >> that getting the pages out of MySQL is no problem and that the markup
    >> dialects are not so different that I couldn't whip up a 90% solution
    >> for the translation problem.

    Marijn> I guess that all that it takes is generating the files (in wiki
    Marijn> format) in data/text/ . Of course, this isn't enough if you also
    Marijn> want to move version histories, etc.

Thanks.  I hadn't considered version histories, but I don't think their loss
will be a huge deal.

Skip



From j.stovin at zoo-tech.com  Thu May 13 02:15:00 2004
From: j.stovin at zoo-tech.com (John Stovin)
Date: Thu May 13 02:15:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin with Twisted on Windows
Message-ID: <176AB0A0ADC4734B8FE888D53E75D9D50113B87A@s15shefsrv.zoodigitalgroup.com>

Has anyone here got this to work? Is it possible?

I'm trying to install it all using ActivePython 2.3.
wiki\cgi-bin\moin_twisted.py imports pwd and grp, which obviously isn't
goint to work under Windows, but I don't really have any experience with
Twisted, so any pointers would be useful.



John Stovin
Senior Software Engineer

j.stovin at zoo-tech.com		t: +44 (0)114 241 3700
http://www.zoo-tech.com		f: +44 (0)114 241 3701


ZOOtech Ltd., Parkhead House, 26 Carver Street, Sheffield, S1 4FS, United
Kingdom. 
Company Registration Number: 4197951

NOTE: This email is private and confidential to the named recipients. Any
information provided is given in good faith. However, unless specifically
stated to the contrary, ZOOtech Ltd. accepts no liability for the content of
this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the
information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in
writing.
? 2004 ZOOtech Ltd. 



From N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk  Thu May 13 06:06:05 2004
From: N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk (Neil Brooks)
Date: Thu May 13 06:06:05 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin with Twisted on Windows
In-Reply-To: <176AB0A0ADC4734B8FE888D53E75D9D50113B87A@s15shefsrv.zoodigitalgroup.com>
References: <176AB0A0ADC4734B8FE888D53E75D9D50113B87A@s15shefsrv.zoodigitalg
 roup.com>
Message-ID: <942D8436DE852D7E8D6C2798@D8KY5D0J.ex.ac.uk>

John,

visit
<http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de:8000/TwistedWindowsPage>
for help on how to get this working. I have used this info to create python 
script to make a Windows Service run Twisted but code is not tidy enough to 
publish yet.

Neil
--On 13/05/2004 10:15 +0100 John Stovin <j.stovin at zoo-tech.com> wrote:

> Has anyone here got this to work? Is it possible?
>
> I'm trying to install it all using ActivePython 2.3.
> wiki\cgi-bin\moin_twisted.py imports pwd and grp, which obviously isn't
> goint to work under Windows, but I don't really have any experience with
> Twisted, so any pointers would be useful.
>
>
>
> John Stovin
> Senior Software Engineer
>
> j.stovin at zoo-tech.com		t: +44 (0)114 241 3700
> http://www.zoo-tech.com		f: +44 (0)114 241 3701
>
>
> ZOOtech Ltd., Parkhead House, 26 Carver Street, Sheffield, S1 4FS, United
> Kingdom.
> Company Registration Number: 4197951
>
> NOTE: This email is private and confidential to the named recipients. Any
> information provided is given in good faith. However, unless specifically
> stated to the contrary, ZOOtech Ltd. accepts no liability for the content
> of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis
> of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently
> confirmed in writing.
> ? 2004 ZOOtech Ltd.
>
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Tel: +44 (0)1392 26 3923



From Grit.Seiffert at swisslife.ch  Thu May 13 08:12:03 2004
From: Grit.Seiffert at swisslife.ch (Seiffert Grit)
Date: Thu May 13 08:12:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] top/bottom links in headings
Message-ID: <109179A1E3D9D511BEEF00D0B7D4912404568119@ns9875.swisslife.ch>

Hello to everybody,

I`ve got two questions:

1) I`ve noticed, that the bottom link in headings isn`t working. I`ve
changed the user preferences, so that in every title bar there is an up and
down arrow to navigate to top or bottom of page. The top link is working
fine, but nothing?s happening when I press the bottom link. Is that a known
bug? How can I fix it?


2) I`d like the wiki to open a new window when some links are used. Is there
another possibility since the ^in front of the link isn`t working (I`ve read
about that bug)? Using HTML isn`t working. How can I aktivate ist, so that
the [[HTML]]-macro will work?

Thank you fpr your answers.
Grit




From j.stovin at zoo-tech.com  Thu May 13 08:15:09 2004
From: j.stovin at zoo-tech.com (John Stovin)
Date: Thu May 13 08:15:09 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin with Twisted on Windows
Message-ID: <176AB0A0ADC4734B8FE888D53E75D9D50113B884@s15shefsrv.zoodigitalgroup.com>

Thanks Neil, 

That sorted it...

I was going to ask about running as a Windows Service next :) 
Any idea when you plan to publish your code?

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Brooks [mailto:N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk]
Sent: 13 May 2004 14:05
To: John Stovin; Moin User
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Moin with Twisted on Windows


John,

visit
<http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de:8000/TwistedWindowsPage>
for help on how to get this working. I have used this info to create python 
script to make a Windows Service run Twisted but code is not tidy enough to 
publish yet.

Neil
--On 13/05/2004 10:15 +0100 John Stovin <j.stovin at zoo-tech.com> wrote:

> Has anyone here got this to work? Is it possible?
>
> I'm trying to install it all using ActivePython 2.3.
> wiki\cgi-bin\moin_twisted.py imports pwd and grp, which obviously isn't
> goint to work under Windows, but I don't really have any experience with
> Twisted, so any pointers would be useful.

-- 
Neil Brooks
Small Systems Team Leader
IT Services
University of Exeter
Tel: +44 (0)1392 26 3923



From jloomis at authentica.com  Thu May 13 08:53:06 2004
From: jloomis at authentica.com (Jeff Loomis)
Date: Thu May 13 08:53:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] top/bottom links in headings
Message-ID: <C7FF5728565A494BABA103B9BF5038304711F0@mbox.authentica.com>

> 1) I`ve noticed, that the bottom link in headings isn`t 
> working. I`ve changed the user preferences, so that in every 

At least on 1.2.1, there is another problem that I see which makes it a
bad idea to turn on top/bottom links.  The links seem to be inserted in
the cached version of the page.  If the cached page is generated by a
user with the preference turned on, then EVERYBODY gets the top/bottom
link from then on.  If a user with the preference turned off refreshes
the cache, then the top/bottom links disappear for everyone.  This
behavior makes the top/bottom link feature quite unpredictable, so I
asked everyone at my site to keep the preference turned off.  I guess it
would be OK if everybody wanted the links and all users had it turned
on.

-Jeff



From ronanl at melim.com.br  Tue May 18 13:10:04 2004
From: ronanl at melim.com.br (Ronan Lucio)
Date: Tue May 18 13:10:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Create my own Wiki
Message-ID: <02b201c43d14$5d839040$8f01a8c0@Programacao>

Hi,

I installed moinmoin-1.1 via FreeBSD ports but I didn?t
understand how to create my own moinmoin environment.

When I access the WikiWiki http://myhostname/cgi-bin/moin
it shows the Moinmoin FronPage, but the page is immutable.

If I try to access http://myhostname/moin, it gives me an error:

Not Found
The requested URL /moin/moin.cgi/ was not found on this server.



Is it normal moinmoin try to access a moin.cgi directory?



Thanks

Ronan






From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed May 19 08:54:02 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed May 19 08:54:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Create my own Wiki
In-Reply-To: <02b201c43d14$5d839040$8f01a8c0@Programacao>
References: <02b201c43d14$5d839040$8f01a8c0@Programacao>
Message-ID: <40AB82D2.5050304@gmx.de>

> I installed moinmoin-1.1 via FreeBSD ports but I didn?t
> understand how to create my own moinmoin environment.

That's what's INSTALL.html is for.

> When I access the WikiWiki http://myhostname/cgi-bin/moin
> it shows the Moinmoin FronPage, but the page is immutable.

Maybe you didn't set the file/directory permissions right.

> Is it normal moinmoin try to access a moin.cgi directory?

This all depends on your configuration. Just following the docs (see 
above) usually works.

Hint: Next time use moin 1.2.1 (or 1.2.2 if already released).

We fixed a lot of stuff in that version.





From ronanl at melim.com.br  Wed May 19 09:58:22 2004
From: ronanl at melim.com.br (Ronan Lucio)
Date: Wed May 19 09:58:22 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Create my own Wiki
References: <02b201c43d14$5d839040$8f01a8c0@Programacao> <40AB82D2.5050304@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <01df01c43dc2$945366a0$8f01a8c0@Programacao>

Thomas,

>> I installed moinmoin-1.1 via FreeBSD ports but I didn?t
>> understand how to create my own moinmoin environment.
>
> That's what's INSTALL.html is for.

Hmmm, I think the FreeBSD ports installation didn?t install it.

Anyway, you?re right.
It?s working fine now.

Thank you very much,
Ronan





From goofyfish at comcast.net  Wed May 19 12:56:13 2004
From: goofyfish at comcast.net (goofyfish at comcast.net)
Date: Wed May 19 12:56:13 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] ACL difficulties - user seems not to be in a group
Message-ID: <051920041953.29694.40ABBB36000A5AB9000073FE2200761438089C07009700010109@comcast.net>

I have a new wiki using moinmoin 1.2.1, with an AdminGroup containing myself (WillardKorfhage) and another user (JimBar). Config.py contains:


acl_enabled = 1

acl_rights_default = 'Trusted:read All:'

acl_rights_before = 'AdminGroup:read,write,admin,delete,revert'


The text on the AdminGroup page is:


#acl All:read

?

?* WillardKorfhage

?* JimBar



When logged in as myself, I can see everything in the wiki and edit it.


When logged in as JimBar, I can see the AdminGroup page, but I cannot view any other page.


If I change the config file to read:


acl_rights_before = 'AdminGroup,JimBar:read,write,admin,delete,revert'


Then everything is fine. This implies that JimBar is not in the AdminGroup, but as far as I can tell, he should be. I tried refreshing the cache for the AdminGroup page, but that didn't help. Any suggestions?


Thanks,


Willard



From pf_moore at yahoo.co.uk  Thu May 20 04:00:01 2004
From: pf_moore at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Moore)
Date: Thu May 20 04:00:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with moin + =?utf-8?b?bW9kX3B5dGhvbg==?=
Message-ID: <loom.20040520T124825-327@post.gmane.org>

I'm setting up a Moin instance on our internal (Win2k) server, using Apache2 + 
mod_python with Moin 1.2.1. Everything went fine with the instructions, I'm 
using a version of mod_python with the known bug fixed, so I didn't need the 
wrapper script.

I have a minor problem, though. When I navigate to 
http://ukdcr030:8000/dbawiki/, I get the front page, as expected. However, if I 
then click on a link, say BackupAndRecovery, I get shown the front page 
*again*, but with a URL of http://ukdcr030:8000/dbawiki//BackupAndRecovery in 
the address bar (note the double slash in the middle). Hitting the same link 
again takes me to the right page, but with a URL of 
http://ukdcr030:8000/dbawiki//BackupAndRecovery/BackupAndRecovery.

Everything else *seems* to work OK, but I'm a bit concerned that things may be 
going wrong under the covers somehow.

I added the following to my Apache configuration. I'm not too familiar with 
Apache, so it's quite possible I've made some dumb error here. There's almost 
nothing in my moin config - it's basically the default - so I doubt it's that 
(but I can post it if anyone thinks it's relevant). Can anyone help with this?

# DBA Wiki
Alias   /wiki/     "C:/Python23/share/moin/htdocs/"
Alias   /wikidata/ "D:/Moin/wikidata/"
Alias   /dbawiki  "D:/Moin/dbawiki/"

<Directory "D:/Moin/dbawiki">
    # Use mod_python as handler
    SetHandler python-program

    # set the path to the MoinMoin package and to the moin_config.py
    PythonPath "['D:/Moin/dbawiki']+sys.path"

    # choose the ModPy Request class as handler
    PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run
</Directory>

Paul.




From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Thu May 20 09:52:03 2004
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Thu May 20 09:52:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with moin + mod_python
In-Reply-To: <loom.20040520T124825-327@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20040520165151.42232.qmail@web14301.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Paul Moore <pf_moore at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm setting up a Moin instance on our internal (Win2k) server, using
> Apache2 + 
> mod_python with Moin 1.2.1. Everything went fine with the
> instructions, I'm 
> using a version of mod_python with the known bug fixed, so I didn't
> need the 
> wrapper script.
> 
> I have a minor problem, though. When I navigate to 
> http://ukdcr030:8000/dbawiki/, I get the front page, as expected.
> However, if I 
> then click on a link, say BackupAndRecovery, I get shown the front
> page 
> *again*, but with a URL of
> http://ukdcr030:8000/dbawiki//BackupAndRecovery in 
> the address bar (note the double slash in the middle). Hitting the
> same link 
> again takes me to the right page, but with a URL of 
> http://ukdcr030:8000/dbawiki//BackupAndRecovery/BackupAndRecovery.
> 
> Everything else *seems* to work OK, but I'm a bit concerned that
> things may be 
> going wrong under the covers somehow.
> 
> I added the following to my Apache configuration. I'm not too
> familiar with 
> Apache, so it's quite possible I've made some dumb error here.
> There's almost 
> nothing in my moin config - it's basically the default - so I doubt
> it's that 
> (but I can post it if anyone thinks it's relevant). Can anyone help
> with this?
> 
> # DBA Wiki
> Alias   /wiki/     "C:/Python23/share/moin/htdocs/"
> Alias   /wikidata/ "D:/Moin/wikidata/"
> Alias   /dbawiki  "D:/Moin/dbawiki/"
> 
> <Directory "D:/Moin/dbawiki">
>     # Use mod_python as handler
>     SetHandler python-program
> 
>     # set the path to the MoinMoin package and to the moin_config.py
>     PythonPath "['D:/Moin/dbawiki']+sys.path"
> 
>     # choose the ModPy Request class as handler
>     PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run
> </Directory>
> 
> Paul.
> 


I am not a mod-python user (was going to give it a try this afternoon),
but I think you need an additional slash:

Alias   /dbawiki  "D:/Moin/dbawiki/"

should be: 
Alias   /dbawiki/  "D:/Moin/dbawiki/"

Roger



	
		
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From pf_moore at yahoo.co.uk  Thu May 20 12:17:13 2004
From: pf_moore at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Moore)
Date: Thu May 20 12:17:13 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Problems with moin + mod_python
References: <loom.20040520T124825-327@post.gmane.org> <20040520165151.42232.qmail@web14301.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1eublnclq4epy.tpaofrv6qklp$.dlg@40tude.net>

On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:51:51 -0700 (PDT), Roger Haase wrote:

> I am not a mod-python user (was going to give it a try this afternoon),
> but I think you need an additional slash:
> 
> Alias   /dbawiki  "D:/Moin/dbawiki/"
> 
> should be: 
> Alias   /dbawiki/  "D:/Moin/dbawiki/"

That didn't help, unfortunately.

Actually, the reason I skipped the trailing slash is that I wanted to be
able to let people use the URL http://ukdcr030:8000/dbawiki (without the
trailing slash). But that's minor, and I don't need to retain it.

Paul.




From drew_wallner at rocketmail.com  Fri May 21 07:12:08 2004
From: drew_wallner at rocketmail.com (Drew Wallner)
Date: Fri May 21 07:12:08 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] difficulties using mod_python
Message-ID: <20040521141118.45263.qmail@web50301.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi friendly MoinMoin community folks,

I have a simple question - as of 1.2.1, is mod_python "officially" supported or
not with MoinMoin?  I was not able to find a clear answer in the moinmaster
wiki.  There are some instructions, which I was able to use to get up and
running.  However I find when running inside mod_python certain features of my
wiki do not function as with CGI, these being user logins and "breadcrumbs".

Since these are essential to our use of MoinMoin at work, I need to be able to
tell say whether or not mod_python support is considered "official" because if
it's not, I can probably get permission to continue running as a CGI here at
work.

Thanks for any feedback!  

Oh if it helps my platform is RHEL 3, my version of Python is 2.3.2 and my
version of mod_python is 3.0.3.  I am trying to use MoinMoin 1.2.1 with the
modpy wrapper (since my mod_python is < 3.1).  I have also tried to use
MoinMoin 1.1 (what we currently run in "production") with mod_python with no
success at all.

Regards,
Drew Wallner



From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri May 21 08:55:06 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri May 21 08:55:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] ACL difficulties - user seems not to be in a group
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References: <051920041953.29694.40ABBB36000A5AB9000073FE2200761438089C07009700010109@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <40AE261E.6050808@gmx.de>

Your config looks OK and consistent.

Is maybe JimBar misspelled in his user account? The name must match 
exactly, including upper/lowercase.

Does JimBar have a password set?



From korfhage at familyk.org  Fri May 21 10:02:00 2004
From: korfhage at familyk.org (Willard Korfhage)
Date: Fri May 21 10:02:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] ACL difficulties - user seems not to be in a group
In-Reply-To: <40AE261E.6050808@gmx.de>
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From jpeterson at ainet.com  Fri May 21 11:34:01 2004
From: jpeterson at ainet.com (Jim Peterson)
Date: Fri May 21 11:34:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] install prob on win2k
Message-ID: <40AE4B3F.1060808@ainet.com>

ActiveState python 2.3.2
Win2k Pro SP4
Apache 2.0

browsing all of http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpForBeginners in vain.

Running http://localhost/mywiki?test yields:

MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
======================

Package "MoinMoin" successfully imported.


Traceback (innermost last):
   File "C:/moin/moin121/wiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi", line 23, in ?
     request = RequestCGI()
    File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line 503, 
in __init__
     RequestBase.__init__(self, properties)
    File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line 63, 
in __init__
     self.dicts = self.initdicts()
    File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line 223, 
in initdicts
     dicts.scandicts()
    File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikidicts.py", line 
253, in scandicts
     pagelist = wikiutil.getPageList(config.text_dir)
    File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.py", line 275, 
in getPageList
     pages = os.listdir(text_dir)
  WindowsError: [Errno 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 
'data\\text/*.*'

----------------------------------------------------------------------
I get the same results running moin.cgi from the command line as 
moin.py.  Obviously a python issue, rather than apache.  When installing 
that 'data' directory, I used Explorer drag-and-drop to copy it, rather 
than 'xcopy /e' as indicated by the install guide.  But all permissions 
seem to be correct.

I have a 'data/text' directory containing language-specific help files. 
  All are full-control to everyone.  I removed the archive flag from all.

Any help appreciated.




From tobin at splorg.org  Fri May 21 13:32:11 2004
From: tobin at splorg.org (Tobin Fricke)
Date: Fri May 21 13:32:11 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] difficulties using mod_python
In-Reply-To: <20040521141118.45263.qmail@web50301.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040521141118.45263.qmail@web50301.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0405211329260.17258@slowhand.splorg.org>

On Fri, 21 May 2004, Drew Wallner wrote:

> I have a simple question - as of 1.2.1, is mod_python "officially"
> supported or not with MoinMoin?

What are the advantages / differences with running MoinMoin via mod_python
instead of as a CGI?

tobin




From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 18:55:00 2004
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Fri May 21 18:55:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] install prob on win2k
In-Reply-To: <40AE4B3F.1060808@ainet.com>
Message-ID: <20040522015407.90227.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Jim Peterson <jpeterson at ainet.com> wrote:
> ActiveState python 2.3.2
> Win2k Pro SP4
> Apache 2.0
> 
> browsing all of http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpForBeginners in
> vain.
> 
> Running http://localhost/mywiki?test yields:
> 
> MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
> ======================
> 
> Package "MoinMoin" successfully imported.
> 
> 
> Traceback (innermost last):
>    File "C:/moin/moin121/wiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi", line 23, in ?
>      request = RequestCGI()
>     File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line
> 503, 
> in __init__
>      RequestBase.__init__(self, properties)
>     File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line
> 63, 
> in __init__
>      self.dicts = self.initdicts()
>     File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\request.py", line
> 223, 
> in initdicts
>      dicts.scandicts()
>     File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikidicts.py", line 
> 253, in scandicts
>      pagelist = wikiutil.getPageList(config.text_dir)
>     File "C:\Python23\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\wikiutil.py", line
> 275, 
> in getPageList
>      pages = os.listdir(text_dir)
>   WindowsError: [Errno 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 
> 'data\\text/*.*'
> 
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
> I get the same results running moin.cgi from the command line as 
> moin.py.  Obviously a python issue, rather than apache.  When
> installing 
> that 'data' directory, I used Explorer drag-and-drop to copy it,
> rather 
> than 'xcopy /e' as indicated by the install guide.  But all
> permissions 
> seem to be correct.
> 
> I have a 'data/text' directory containing language-specific help
> files. 
>   All are full-control to everyone.  I removed the archive flag from
> all.
> 
> Any help appreciated.
> 

The message seems to indicate the data/text directory is not in the
right place.  Doublecheck the directory in the Apache httpd.conf
ScriptAlias statement -- the directory containing moin.cgi should have
a subdirectory data, and data should have a subdirectory text.

Roger Haase



	
		
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From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Fri May 21 20:01:07 2004
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Fri May 21 20:01:07 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] ModPython Installation Instructions
Message-ID: <20040522030020.63022.qmail@web14305.mail.yahoo.com>

I finally got around to installing Moin under ModPython. Since there
are already several variations on how to do this, I thought I would add
my own comments.

I am running Windows/XP, Apache 2.0.48, and ModPython 3.1.3, and of
course, Moin 1.2.1.

I think the pesky change to moin_config.py could be eliminated if the:
   data_dir = './data/'
were changed to:
   import os
   data_dir = os.path.dirname(__file__) + '/data/'
in the next Moin release (1.2.2). I think the above would work with
CGI, Twisted, and ModPython across all OSs. It has not been tested on
all those, of course.

This is possibly a nit, but wouldn't the Apache <Location> tag be more
appropriate then the use of <Directory>, <Files>, or .htaccess? With
ModPython you are not really protecting or allowing access to files and
directories, but giving control to a program which can do pretty much
as it pleases, subject only to OS permissions.

Assuming the above change to moin_config.py and a current (fixed)
ModPython, changing from a working CGI wiki to a ModPython version
would  require (1) installing ModPython and (2) commenting out a
ScriptAlias and adding a LoadModule and <Location> tag to httpd.conf:
   #ScriptAlias /mywiki         "C:/somedir/mywiki/moin.cgi" 
   LoadModule python_module modules/mod_python.so
   <Location /mywiki>
       SetHandler python-program
       PythonPath "['C:/somedir/mywiki/']+sys.path"
       PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run
       PythonDebug On
   </Location>

If there is general agreement on the above approach, I would be willing
to revise the HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnWin32 docs over the next week or
two.

Roger Haase


	
		
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From goofyfish at comcast.net  Mon May 24 06:20:10 2004
From: goofyfish at comcast.net (goofyfish at comcast.net)
Date: Mon May 24 06:20:10 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] ACL difficulties - user seems not to be in a group
Message-ID: <052420041319.1519.40B1F6560005C01A000005EF2200750744089C07009700010109@comcast.net>

Thomas gave me the hint that fixed it: I removed both .pickle filles. At that point the users could log in as expected. I suspect the root cause of this was that I made the wiki by cloning a prototype wiki.




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From niklas.gidion at web.de  Wed May 26 07:42:09 2004
From: niklas.gidion at web.de (Niklas Gidion)
Date: Wed May 26 07:42:09 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] possibility for admin to add user-accounts in bulk?
Message-ID: <408D17930004AB71@mr01.hansenet.de> (added by postmaster@mr01.hansenet.de)

Hi folks,

I would like to know if there is any possibility for the admin
of a moinmoinwiki to add new useraccounts in bulk - instead of
typing them in separately into the wiki-interface.

The application-case I would like to use this for is an
organisation-internal wiki, where the users already have logins
and I would like to link the wiki from the internal pages so that
the users are allready logged in with their WikiNames, when they
access the wiki from the organisation-internal pages. People from outside
should be able to read some parts of the wiki.
I want to build the wiki-useraccounts so that I can link them to the
existing userdata in a MySQL-database.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Niklas Gidion



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