From ransom at telus.net  Sun Dec  1 09:26:10 2002
From: ransom at telus.net (Ransom)
Date: Sun Dec  1 09:26:10 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
Message-ID: <3DEA4611.6050509@telus.net>

 

I am trying to get MoinMoin working with WindowsXP Pro and IIS.

My moin.cgi looks like this now

import sys
sys.path.append('e:/apps/Python22/lib')
sys.path.append('E:/apps/moin/lib/site-packages')
import os

and the Moin library is loaded (I know thats the usual problem).

Now I get this particular error, and not being a python programmer, I 
have absolutely no clue on what to do next.  All help appreciated.



> CGI Error
> The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "E:\apps\moin\share\moin\htdocs\moin.cgi", line 32, in ?
>     cgimain.run()
>   File "e:\apps\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\cgimain.py", line 103, in run
>     sys.stderr = open(os.path.join(config.data_dir, 'err_log'), 'at')
> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data\\err_log'

Another weirdness is that the URI

http://localhost/wiki/moin.cgi must be used;  IIS will not deliver the 
URI http://localhost/wiki/moin.cgi/.  The default document as described 
in the setup manual will not work under windows when following the 
instructions.

Doug








From kentsin at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  2 02:28:29 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Mon Dec  2 02:28:29 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Create pages automatically
Message-ID: <20021202102751.40816.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com>

I would like to create some wiki pages from a
database.

It is possible just to put the files in the text
directory? 

I would also like to known the naming rules for
filename.  I have saw names in Chinese were in
_eb_.... how are they constructed? Are there any
modules I can make use?



Rgs,

Kent Sin

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From lele at seldati.it  Mon Dec  2 05:31:20 2002
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Mon Dec  2 05:31:20 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Create pages automatically
In-Reply-To: <20021202102751.40816.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021202102751.40816.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15851.24187.659278.742056@paci.nautilus>

>>>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 02:27:51 -0800 (PST), kent sin <kentsin at yahoo.com> said:

    ks> I would like to create some wiki pages from a database.

    ks> It is possible just to put the files in the text directory?

Yes, with the right permissions...

    ks> I would also like to known the naming rules for filename.  I
    ks> have saw names in Chinese were in _eb_.... how are they
    ks> constructed? Are there any modules I can make use?

Uhm, better consult the sources for that.

ciao, lele.
-- 
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real: Emanuele Gaifas	| comincero' ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: lele at seldati.it	|		-- Fortunato Depero, 1929.




From minskim at bawi.org  Mon Dec  2 11:48:35 2002
From: minskim at bawi.org (Min Sik Kim)
Date: Mon Dec  2 11:48:35 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Create pages automatically
In-Reply-To: <20021202102751.40816.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021202102751.40816.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021202154919.GA1520@webdox.net>

* kent sin <kentsin at yahoo.com> [20021202 09:28 CST]:
> I would like to create some wiki pages from a
> database.
> 
> It is possible just to put the files in the text
> directory? 
> 
> I would also like to known the naming rules for
> filename.  I have saw names in Chinese were in
> _eb_.... how are they constructed? Are there any
> modules I can make use?

quoteFilename() in MoinMoin/wikiutil.py will do the job.

-- 
 Min Sik Kim



From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Mon Dec  2 14:22:04 2002
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Mon Dec  2 14:22:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <3DEA4611.6050509@telus.net>
Message-ID: <20021202222121.78178.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Ransom <ransom at telus.net> wrote:
>  
> 
> I am trying to get MoinMoin working with WindowsXP Pro and IIS.
> 
> My moin.cgi looks like this now
> 
> import sys
> sys.path.append('e:/apps/Python22/lib')
> sys.path.append('E:/apps/moin/lib/site-packages')
> import os
> 
> and the Moin library is loaded (I know thats the usual problem).
> 
> Now I get this particular error, and not being a python programmer, I
> 
> have absolutely no clue on what to do next.  All help appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
> > CGI Error
> > The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a
> complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:
> > 
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "E:\apps\moin\share\moin\htdocs\moin.cgi", line 32, in ?
> >     cgimain.run()
> >   File "e:\apps\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\cgimain.py", line
> 103, in run
> >     sys.stderr = open(os.path.join(config.data_dir, 'err_log'),
> 'at')
> > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data\\err_log'
> 
> Another weirdness is that the URI
> 
> http://localhost/wiki/moin.cgi must be used;  IIS will not deliver
> the 
> URI http://localhost/wiki/moin.cgi/.  The default document as
> described 
> in the setup manual will not work under windows when following the 
> instructions.
> 
> Doug

I think the error you are getting is the result of MoinMoin trying to
write an error message to err_log, and it is abending because there is
no /data/ folder under /htdocs/ (and there should not be one).

If you followed the IIS installation instructions, you should have
created a folder called mywiki (or almost any other name of your
choice, but not wiki).  So you should be trying to access:
 http://localhost/MYwiki/moin.cgi (where MY should be my)

Note the installation instructions have you set up two alias names in
IIS: wiki and mywiki.

HTH,

Roger


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From ransom at telus.net  Tue Dec  3 21:08:03 2002
From: ransom at telus.net (Ransom)
Date: Tue Dec  3 21:08:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <20021202222121.78178.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021202222121.78178.qmail@web14309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DED8D8C.4040306@telus.net>

I gave up.  I was able to view a wiki, but not edit pages.

I am now trying apache on windows.  Its equally as frustrating.  The 
documentation on getting the default wiki working seems vague and 
perhaps incorrect.

loading http://localhost/wiki/ redirects to:

http://localhost/wiki/moin.cgi/

which displays the following in the browser:


  Not Found

The requested URL /wiki/moin.cgi/ was not found on this server.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache/2.0.43 Server at localhost Port 80

My apache config file looks like:

NameVirtualHost *
<VirtualHost *>
    ServerAdmin Doug.Ransom at alumni.uvic.ca
    DocumentRoot  E:/apps/ApacheGroup/Apache2/htdocs
    Alias /wiki e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
    ScriptAlias /wiki/ E:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
</VirtualHost>


and the batch file moin.bat stored in e:\apps\moin\share\moin

is:

 @echo off
set PYTHONPATH=e:\apps\moin\lib\site-packages
e:
cd \apps\Moin\share\moin\htdocs
e:\apps\Python22\python.exe moin.cgi

The install instructions say nothing on how to get the virutal root 
working for the default wiki, only to create a virtual root:

'Then, append these lines to "C:\Apache\conf\httpd.conf":

Alias /wiki/ "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/" 
ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat" '

I thinks these instructions are bogus, because the URL 
 C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/ (or whatever fits teh machine) redirects to 
a cgi, but there are no instructions on associating that cgi file with 
any script in apache.  

How can I make apache execte the batch file ?





Roger Haase wrote:

>--- Ransom <ransom at telus.net> wrote:
>  
>
>> 
>>
>>I am trying to get MoinMoin working with WindowsXP Pro and IIS.
>>
>>My moin.cgi looks like this now
>>
>>import sys
>>sys.path.append('e:/apps/Python22/lib')
>>sys.path.append('E:/apps/moin/lib/site-packages')
>>import os
>>
>>and the Moin library is loaded (I know thats the usual problem).
>>
>>Now I get this particular error, and not being a python programmer, I
>>
>>have absolutely no clue on what to do next.  All help appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>CGI Error
>>>The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a
>>>      
>>>
>>complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:
>>    
>>
>>>Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>  File "E:\apps\moin\share\moin\htdocs\moin.cgi", line 32, in ?
>>>    cgimain.run()
>>>  File "e:\apps\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\cgimain.py", line
>>>      
>>>
>>103, in run
>>    
>>
>>>    sys.stderr = open(os.path.join(config.data_dir, 'err_log'),
>>>      
>>>
>>'at')
>>    
>>
>>>IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data\\err_log'
>>>      
>>>
>>Another weirdness is that the URI
>>
>>http://localhost/wiki/moin.cgi must be used;  IIS will not deliver
>>the 
>>URI http://localhost/wiki/moin.cgi/.  The default document as
>>described 
>>in the setup manual will not work under windows when following the 
>>instructions.
>>
>>Doug
>>    
>>
>
>I think the error you are getting is the result of MoinMoin trying to
>write an error message to err_log, and it is abending because there is
>no /data/ folder under /htdocs/ (and there should not be one).
>
>If you followed the IIS installation instructions, you should have
>created a folder called mywiki (or almost any other name of your
>choice, but not wiki).  So you should be trying to access:
> http://localhost/MYwiki/moin.cgi (where MY should be my)
>
>Note the installation instructions have you set up two alias names in
>IIS: wiki and mywiki.
>
>HTH,
>
>Roger
>
>
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From tshumway-sf at jdiworks.net  Tue Dec  3 22:02:02 2002
From: tshumway-sf at jdiworks.net (Terrel Shumway)
Date: Tue Dec  3 22:02:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Accelerating CGI Scripts (was [Webware-discuss] re: LRWP Adapter
 for Xitami & WebKit)
In-Reply-To: <1038976303.526.188.camel@dsl-65-184-205-5.telocity.com>
References: 	 <F15A23A5EBA5D411A38400D0B7B9EB5FE54359@nts3040.tib.uni-hannover.de>
	 <1038974688.3259.382.camel@thunderjam.localnet>
	 <1038976303.526.188.camel@dsl-65-184-205-5.telocity.com>
Message-ID: <1038981736.3258.435.camel@thunderjam.localnet>

Thank you thank you thank you for those pointers, Ian.  
I am forever in your debt. I created a new page on the mother wiki.

http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?PoundReverseProxy

with a link to and from 

http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?RunScriptAsDaemon

so that all of our 8-) favorite projects* can reference this place when
questions about load balancing and accelerating cgi scripts come up. 


 -- Terrel

---
* favorite projects include: roundup, moinmoin, mailman, webware,
quixote.


--- forwarded message ---

On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 20:31, Ian Bicking wrote: 
> On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 22:04, Terrel Shumway wrote:
> > > I would like to suggest a slight more flexibility which also could be used
> > > in WebKit.cgi: Don't rely on the presence of address.text but make it
> > > possible to connect to another machine, too
> > > With this feature it could be possible to implement a primitve form of load
> > > balancing: different webware servers on different machines.
> > 
> > http://pythondirector.sourceforge.net/ might be interesting to you.
> 
> Pound, http://www.apsis.ch/pound/ , also sounds pretty neat, though I
> haven't used it.  Using adapters for load balancing has an advantage in
> that the backend machines don't have to have a web server on them, only
> the AppServer.

[snip]

> SCGI seems like a good solution -- far simpler than FastCGI.  It
> actually is semantically exactly equivalent to Webware's adapter
> interface, but language neutral.  It's at:
>   http://www.mems-exchange.org/software/scgi/
> It's actually written for Quixote, another Python web framework, but
> targeted for general use.  It sends the same information as we do, only
> uses netstrings instead of marshaled Python objects.





From j.her at t-online.de  Wed Dec  4 01:21:03 2002
From: j.her at t-online.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Dec  4 01:21:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <3DED8D8C.4040306@telus.net>
Message-ID: <18JVhk-1RowTIC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com>

On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:07:24 -0800, Ransom wrote:

>I gave up.  I was able to view a wiki, but not edit pages.

Read harder. The docs.

>    Alias /wiki e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
>    ScriptAlias /wiki/ E:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/

QUOTE: "mywiki" is the name of your wiki instance, you might want to
chose a different name best fitting the intended use of this instance;
just don't name it simply "wiki", because that would result in problems
later on. 


Oh, you have problems? Doh!

The 2nd part of your ScriptAlias is also not according to docs and
won't work. The trailing slash is wrong in both aliases (you swapped
them).

So next time before you diss the docs several people have invested much
time into, read harder!

Ciao, J?rgen





From ransom at telus.net  Wed Dec  4 06:49:01 2002
From: ransom at telus.net (Ransom)
Date: Wed Dec  4 06:49:01 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <18JVhk-1RowTIC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com>
References: <18JVhk-1RowTIC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com>
Message-ID: <3DEE15B8.8070707@telus.net>

Juergen Hermann wrote:

 >On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:07:24 -0800, Ransom wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 >>I gave up.  I was able to view a wiki, but not edit pages.
 >>
 >>
 >
 >Read harder. The docs.
 >
 >
 >
 >>   Alias /wiki e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
 >>   ScriptAlias /wiki/ E:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
 >>
 >>
 >
 >QUOTE: "mywiki" is the name of your wiki instance, you might want to
 >chose a different name best fitting the intended use of this instance;
 >just don't name it simply "wiki", because that would result in problems
 >later on.
 >
I have the /wiki/ alias trying to work around what I percieve is a
problem in the documentation.

I still find the docs confusing.  In particular,  they say exactly:

Alias /wiki/ "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"

So I would assume that the "wiki" alias is there for a reason (maybe its
a wiki with instructions?  I have no way of knowing.  I did see this a
bit later "The first line you only need once; the second line is needed
once for each wiki instance (of course, each one with another wiki name
and path").),

and that my new wiki is aliased at the virtual root mywiki.  The problem
lies in the htdocs directory; index.html  redirects to moin.cgi.  As far
as I can tell from the instructions, the server has not been configured
for CGI in the the htdocs directory (the /wiki/ alias) so  I cannot
figure out how the wiki alias is ever supposed to work.

I expect from the docs that http://host/wiki  should correspond to some
default web pages or wiki that are supposed to be configured
and http://host/mywiki should correspond to my wiki instance.  Hence, I
want to get the /wiki/ alias working before I try and get the /mywiki/
alias working.

  If the docs are indeed correct, what does Alias /wiki/
"C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/" accomplish given the cgi redirect in
index.html (I am sincerely asking, not trying to be sarcastic)?  If I
can understand this maybe I can figure out whats going on.

Doug

 >
 >
 >
 >Oh, you have problems? Doh!
 >
 >The 2nd part of your ScriptAlias is also not according to docs and
 >won't work. The trailing slash is wrong in both aliases (you swapped
 >them).
 >
 >So next time before you diss the docs several people have invested much
 >time into, read harder!
 >
 >Ciao, J?rgen
 >
 >
 >
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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Wed Dec  4 07:52:05 2002
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Dec  4 07:52:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
References: <18JVhk-1RowTIC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> <3DEE15B8.8070707@telus.net>
Message-ID: <3DEE246A.10105@waldmann-edv.de>

> Alias /wiki/ "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
> ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
> 
> So I would assume that the "wiki" alias is there for a reason

Yes, to access the images, icons and css.

> "The first line you only need once; the second line is needed
> once for each wiki instance (of course, each one with another wiki name
> and path").),

At first, you need only 1 wiki instance, so 1 ScriptAlias (as above) is OK.

> and that my new wiki is aliased at the virtual root mywiki.  The problem
> lies in the htdocs directory; index.html  redirects to moin.cgi.

You don't need to access index.html, you just can access 
http://localhost/mywiki

> as I can tell from the instructions, the server has not been configured
> for CGI in the the htdocs directory (the /wiki/ alias)

That's because there is no CGI in there.

> so  I cannot figure out how the wiki alias is ever supposed to work.

That is only used internally by the wiki engine - NOT by you.

greetings,

Thomas




From jh at web.de  Wed Dec  4 11:06:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Dec  4 11:06:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <3DEE246A.10105@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1466077070.9101.moin-user@python.org>

On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:51:06 +0100, Thomas Waldmann wrote:

>>[Doug]
>> Alias /wiki/ "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
>> ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"

Doug, are there any questions left after Thomas' answer? Your biggest problem 
seemed to be that you confuzed the static "data" alias (Alias) with the active 
cgi alias (ScriptAlias).

The first makes the wiki find its images etc., the second IS the wiki!


Ciao, J?rgen





From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  4 11:11:02 2002
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Wed Dec  4 11:11:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <3DEE15B8.8070707@telus.net>
Message-ID: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>

The alias for /wiki/ is used internally by MoinMoin to access some
utility files it needs.  Look at the /htdocs/ folder it is pointing to:
on my installation there are only three sub-folders for .gif files,
.css files, and applets (There is also an index.html in my /htdocs/
which I think is extraneous).  If you have changed or added enough
stuff to get a page using localhost/wiki instead of localhost/mywiki,
you may want to delete everything and just reinstall MoinMoin.  Try 2
is always easier for me.

If you are not already an IIS expert, dumping it for Apache is a good
move I think.  The Apache configuration files can be a bit overwhelming
but there are few changes required.  I added some suggestions to the
docs HelpErrata at
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpErrata to
eliminate the .bat file and get MoinMoin working on my old Windows/me
system.

BTW, I ran a competing Wiki, "TWiki" on my Linux system (I don't think
it runs on Windows as it requires Perl) for about three months and just
finished converting everything to MoinMoin.  While Twiki has a few
nicer features in the user registration area, MoinMoin has it beat in
many ways.

Roger Haase


--- Ransom <ransom at telus.net> wrote:
> Juergen Hermann wrote:
> 
>  >On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:07:24 -0800, Ransom wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >>I gave up.  I was able to view a wiki, but not edit pages.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >Read harder. The docs.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >>   Alias /wiki e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
>  >>   ScriptAlias /wiki/ E:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >QUOTE: "mywiki" is the name of your wiki instance, you might want
> to
>  >chose a different name best fitting the intended use of this
> instance;
>  >just don't name it simply "wiki", because that would result in
> problems
>  >later on.
>  >
> I have the /wiki/ alias trying to work around what I percieve is a
> problem in the documentation.
> 
> I still find the docs confusing.  In particular,  they say exactly:
> 
> Alias /wiki/ "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
> ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
> 
> So I would assume that the "wiki" alias is there for a reason (maybe
> its
> a wiki with instructions?  I have no way of knowing.  I did see this
> a
> bit later "The first line you only need once; the second line is
> needed
> once for each wiki instance (of course, each one with another wiki
> name
> and path").),
> 
> and that my new wiki is aliased at the virtual root mywiki.  The
> problem
> lies in the htdocs directory; index.html  redirects to moin.cgi.  As
> far
> as I can tell from the instructions, the server has not been
> configured
> for CGI in the the htdocs directory (the /wiki/ alias) so  I cannot
> figure out how the wiki alias is ever supposed to work.
> 
> I expect from the docs that http://host/wiki  should correspond to
> some
> default web pages or wiki that are supposed to be configured
> and http://host/mywiki should correspond to my wiki instance.  Hence,
> I
> want to get the /wiki/ alias working before I try and get the
> /mywiki/
> alias working.
> 
>   If the docs are indeed correct, what does Alias /wiki/
> "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/" accomplish given the cgi redirect in
> index.html (I am sincerely asking, not trying to be sarcastic)?  If I
> can understand this maybe I can figure out whats going on.
> 
> Doug
> 
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >Oh, you have problems? Doh!
>  >
>  >The 2nd part of your ScriptAlias is also not according to docs and
>  >won't work. The trailing slash is wrong in both aliases (you
> swapped
>  >them).
>  >
>  >So next time before you diss the docs several people have invested
> much
>  >time into, read harder!
>  >
>  >Ciao, J?rgen
>  >
>  >
>  >
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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Wed Dec  4 13:12:16 2002
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Dec  4 13:12:16 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
References: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DEE7007.5000209@waldmann-edv.de>

>
>
>While Twiki has a few nicer features in the user registration area,
>
>MoinMoin has it beat in many ways.
>
Sounds interesting. In which ways?

I don't know much of TWiki (usage of Perl made it unacceptably for me).

greetings,

Thomas





From jh at web.de  Wed Dec  4 13:16:05 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Dec  4 13:16:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <3DEE7007.5000209@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <E18Jgrq-0000zG-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:13:43 +0100, Thomas Waldmann wrote:

>>MoinMoin has it beat in many ways.
>Sounds interesting. In which ways?

Time for a WhyEveryOtherWikiSucks page. ;))

Ciao, J?rgen





From kraulin at msn.com  Wed Dec  4 13:40:10 2002
From: kraulin at msn.com (Kraulin .)
Date: Wed Dec  4 13:40:10 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Linking Files in Windows
Message-ID: <F13twD43oFLaqSOc7wo000002d8@hotmail.com>

Hello all,

  Long time lurker, first time poster! :)

I'm trying to link to a file on a windows machine like: 
\\machinename\myinternalshare\documentation\Jan 2003 build.doc and it's not 
coming out right... either moin moin wants to make a page out of it or  when 
I try to make a link out of it with the HTML macro, it appends the machine 
name and the name of the wiki infront if it...

any sugestions?

-=Bryan

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From jh at web.de  Wed Dec  4 13:55:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Dec  4 13:55:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Linking Files in Windows
In-Reply-To: <F13twD43oFLaqSOc7wo000002d8@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <E18JhT2-0001oZ-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 16:39:39 -0500, Kraulin . wrote:

>I'm trying to link to a file on a windows machine like: 
>\\machinename\myinternalshare\documentation\Jan 2003 build.doc

Use file://... and %20 for the spaces.


Ciao, J?rgen





From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  4 18:12:02 2002
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Wed Dec  4 18:12:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <3DEE7007.5000209@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <20021205021117.17868.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Thomas Waldmann <tw at waldmann-edv.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >While Twiki has a few nicer features in the user registration area,
> >
> >MoinMoin has it beat in many ways.
> >
> Sounds interesting. In which ways?
> 
> I don't know much of TWiki (usage of Perl made it unacceptably for
> me).
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Thomas
> 

Oops, I should have mentioned what I like rather than the single
strength of TWiki. My situation may be unusual -- I am retired, trying
to write a web based archaeological application for computer
illiterates.  I would like to be on Linux, but haven't weaned myself
from Windows completely (but have avoided buying W/XP). I originally
wrote the application tutorial with TWiki and hoped to have my computer
illiterate audience provide feedback on bugs and design enhancements
using TWiki.  I gave up on TWiki because I feared my audience would
wander off into the mess of technical pages in the TWiki Main, TWiki,
and Test webs never to return.

Compared with TWiki, the MoinMoin strengths for me are:
 - written in Python, the only language I want to code in
 - runs on Windows and Linux (my web site is on Linux, I develop on
Windows)
 - HelpOn...s are well organized, and easy to understand
 - has a spellcheck
 - ease of deleting the most technical native pages and getting down to
a page set suitable for my audience.
 - easy customization in moin_config.py
 - user customizations in UserPreferences 
 - emoticons are a fun feature
 - the conversion from TWiki was much easier than expected, I converted
all my pages with manual editing 

Nice job guys!

Roger Haase


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From doug_ransom at telus.net  Wed Dec  4 19:01:09 2002
From: doug_ransom at telus.net (Doug Ransom)
Date: Wed Dec  4 19:01:09 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com> <3DEE7007.5000209@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <3DEEC16F.3000602@telus.net>

I also thought twiki had a few nice features that could be useful in a
work environment, mainly uploading office documents etc (not that I am a
huge fan of MS office, but its pervasiveness is a reality)..

My decision to go with  MoinMoin was because it was not written in perl.
  What I know of Python is encouraging (the syntax is downright cool),
and if I am unfortunate enough to have to get into moin source I will be
fortunate in using a language designed for people instead of machines
(thats a value judgement on my part.  IMO
C/C#/Java/C+@/VB/Pascal/lisp/xml like languages with the opening and
closing tokens are made that way because context-free grammars are fun
to write parsers for.  SOX/Python/Haskell are easier on the eyes and
human comprehension).

Supposedly (having not looked any implementations) MoinMoin stores its
files the way you edit them, while Twiki stores them in some abstruse
format.

Thomas Waldmann wrote:

 >>
 >>
 >> While Twiki has a few nicer features in the user registration area,
 >>
 >> MoinMoin has it beat in many ways.
 >>
 > Sounds interesting. In which ways?
 >
 > I don't know much of TWiki (usage of Perl made it unacceptably for me).
 >
 > greetings,
 >
 > Thomas
 >
 >
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From jd at voelker-web.de  Thu Dec  5 02:05:05 2002
From: jd at voelker-web.de (Joerg Desch)
Date: Thu Dec  5 02:05:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] different css style for printing?
Message-ID: <20021205110447.46c4cd77.jd@voelker-web.de>

Hello all.

I'm currently using 1.1.cvs20021008-1 of the debian moin package. With
this release, every `print view' of a page uses the same css file as the
normal view does. IMO this isn't a good choose. Is there a newer release
with support different ccs styles? Or is it possible to configure a css
file for printing?

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From uldis.bojars at tietoenator.com  Thu Dec  5 06:07:05 2002
From: uldis.bojars at tietoenator.com (Uldis Bojars)
Date: Thu Dec  5 06:07:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Titles Index
In-Reply-To: <E18JhT2-0001oZ-00@smtp.web.de>
References: <E18JhT2-0001oZ-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <19519908997.20021205160721@tietoenator.com>

Hello Juergen and everybody,

IMHO it would be usefull to be able to see TitleIndex without special
purpose pages like Help... Hilfe... UserPref..., etc.

It is possible to make such feature? (checkbox?)

Wiki real wiki pages are lost amongst these default pages and it is
hard to navigate, knowing that I do not need help regularly and, if I
need, I can still access it from the top navigation bar.

-- 
Best regards,
 Uldis                            mailto:uldis.bojars at tietoenator.com




From ransom at telus.net  Thu Dec  5 06:39:02 2002
From: ransom at telus.net (Ransom)
Date: Thu Dec  5 06:39:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DEF64F4.7090305@telus.net>

Roger Haase wrote:

>The alias for /wiki/ is used internally by MoinMoin to access some
>utility files it needs.  Look at the /htdocs/ folder it is pointing to:
>on my installation there are only three sub-folders for .gif files,
>.css files, and applets (There is also an index.html in my /htdocs/
>which I think is extraneous).  
>
This extraneous index.html really threw me.  I expected it to be valid 
and do something useful.

>If you have changed or added enough
>stuff to get a page using localhost/wiki instead of localhost/mywiki,
>you may want to delete everything and just reinstall MoinMoin.  Try 2
>is always easier for me.
>
>If you are not already an IIS expert, dumping it for Apache is a good
>move I think.  
>
I am fairly knowledgable about IIS, but I ran into a problem where I 
could view wiki pages but not edit them. Some sort of permsission 
problem I was unable to figure out.  In addition, Windows XP pro can 
only serve 10 users and it can only serve one virtual host (I guess it 
must have been a lot of work to parse the host name out of the http 
header).  IIS is lame unless you have the server edition.  I would 
suggest not using IIS if you don't have the server edition (and assuming 
you don't experience the permission problem when editing wiki pages).

>The Apache configuration files can be a bit overwhelming
>but there are few changes required.  I added some suggestions to the
>docs HelpErrata at
>http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpErrata to
>eliminate the .bat file and get MoinMoin working on my old Windows/me
>system.
>
The errata helped me greatly.  I never did get apache to execute the 
.bat file.  

I did tweak your errata

http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpErrata


changed from
ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat" 
to 
ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.cgi"  

which I inferred was what you intended to type from the context.

I encourage whoever maintains the documentation to incorporate Roger 
Haase's errata into the distribution of the documentation.

>
>BTW, I ran a competing Wiki, "TWiki" on my Linux system (I don't think
>it runs on Windows as it requires Perl) for about three months and just
>finished converting everything to MoinMoin.  While Twiki has a few
>nicer features in the user registration area, MoinMoin has it beat in
>many ways.
>
Someone earlier on suggested I run linux.  Well, if I didn't use windows 
for visual studio.net, I probably would switch.  I don't use Outlook or 
outlook express because I find them hard to use.  Now I run apache too.


Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread with help!

Doug Ransom (mailto:doug.ransom at alumni.uvic.ca).

>
>Roger Haase
>
>
>--- Ransom <ransom at telus.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>Juergen Hermann wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:07:24 -0800, Ransom wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>I gave up.  I was able to view a wiki, but not edit pages.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Read harder. The docs.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>   Alias /wiki e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
>> >>   ScriptAlias /wiki/ E:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >QUOTE: "mywiki" is the name of your wiki instance, you might want
>>to
>> >chose a different name best fitting the intended use of this
>>instance;
>> >just don't name it simply "wiki", because that would result in
>>problems
>> >later on.
>> >
>>I have the /wiki/ alias trying to work around what I percieve is a
>>problem in the documentation.
>>
>>I still find the docs confusing.  In particular,  they say exactly:
>>
>>Alias /wiki/ "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
>>ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
>>
>>So I would assume that the "wiki" alias is there for a reason (maybe
>>its
>>a wiki with instructions?  I have no way of knowing.  I did see this
>>a
>>bit later "The first line you only need once; the second line is
>>needed
>>once for each wiki instance (of course, each one with another wiki
>>name
>>and path").),
>>
>>and that my new wiki is aliased at the virtual root mywiki.  The
>>problem
>>lies in the htdocs directory; index.html  redirects to moin.cgi.  As
>>far
>>as I can tell from the instructions, the server has not been
>>configured
>>for CGI in the the htdocs directory (the /wiki/ alias) so  I cannot
>>figure out how the wiki alias is ever supposed to work.
>>
>>I expect from the docs that http://host/wiki  should correspond to
>>some
>>default web pages or wiki that are supposed to be configured
>>and http://host/mywiki should correspond to my wiki instance.  Hence,
>>I
>>want to get the /wiki/ alias working before I try and get the
>>/mywiki/
>>alias working.
>>
>>  If the docs are indeed correct, what does Alias /wiki/
>>"C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/" accomplish given the cgi redirect in
>>index.html (I am sincerely asking, not trying to be sarcastic)?  If I
>>can understand this maybe I can figure out whats going on.
>>
>>Doug
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Oh, you have problems? Doh!
>> >
>> >The 2nd part of your ScriptAlias is also not according to docs and
>> >won't work. The trailing slash is wrong in both aliases (you
>>swapped
>> >them).
>> >
>> >So next time before you diss the docs several people have invested
>>much
>> >time into, read harder!
>> >
>> >Ciao, J?rgen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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From doug_ransom at telus.net  Thu Dec  5 06:45:03 2002
From: doug_ransom at telus.net (Doug Ransom)
Date: Thu Dec  5 06:45:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Windows and Moin (yes, the moin packages load).
In-Reply-To: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021204191018.99012.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DEF6675.3070504@telus.net>

Roger Haase wrote:

>The alias for /wiki/ is used internally by MoinMoin to access some
>utility files it needs.  Look at the /htdocs/ folder it is pointing to:
>on my installation there are only three sub-folders for .gif files,
>.css files, and applets (There is also an index.html in my /htdocs/
>which I think is extraneous).  
>
This extraneous index.html really threw me.  I expected it to be valid
and do something useful.

>If you have changed or added enough
>stuff to get a page using localhost/wiki instead of localhost/mywiki,
>you may want to delete everything and just reinstall MoinMoin.  Try 2
>is always easier for me.
>
>If you are not already an IIS expert, dumping it for Apache is a good
>move I think.  
>
I am fairly knowledgable about IIS, but I ran into a problem where I
could view wiki pages but not edit them. Some sort of permsission
problem I was unable to figure out.  In addition, Windows XP pro can
only serve 10 users and it can only serve one virtual host (I guess it
must have been a lot of work to parse the host name out of the http
header).  IIS is lame unless you have the server edition.  I would
suggest not using IIS if you don't have the server edition (and assuming
you don't experience the permission problem when editing wiki pages).

>The Apache configuration files can be a bit overwhelming
>but there are few changes required.  I added some suggestions to the
>docs HelpErrata at
>http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpErrata to
>eliminate the .bat file and get MoinMoin working on my old Windows/me
>system.
>
The errata helped me greatly.  I never did get apache to execute the
.bat file.

I did tweak your errata

http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpErrata


changed from
ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
to
ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.cgi"

which I inferred was what you intended to type from the context.

I encourage whoever maintains the documentation to incorporate Roger
Haase's errata into the distribution of the documentation.

>
>BTW, I ran a competing Wiki, "TWiki" on my Linux system (I don't think
>it runs on Windows as it requires Perl) for about three months and just
>finished converting everything to MoinMoin.  While Twiki has a few
>nicer features in the user registration area, MoinMoin has it beat in
>many ways.
>
Someone earlier on suggested I run linux.  Well, if I didn't use windows
for visual studio.net, I probably would switch.  I don't use Outlook or
outlook express because I find them hard to use.  Now I run apache too.


Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread with help!

Doug Ransom (mailto:doug.ransom at alumni.uvic.ca).

>
>Roger Haase
>
>
>--- Ransom <ransom at telus.net> wrote:
>  
>
>>Juergen Hermann wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:07:24 -0800, Ransom wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>I gave up.  I was able to view a wiki, but not edit pages.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Read harder. The docs.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>   Alias /wiki e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
>> >>   ScriptAlias /wiki/ E:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >QUOTE: "mywiki" is the name of your wiki instance, you might want
>>to
>> >chose a different name best fitting the intended use of this
>>instance;
>> >just don't name it simply "wiki", because that would result in
>>problems
>> >later on.
>> >
>>I have the /wiki/ alias trying to work around what I percieve is a
>>problem in the documentation.
>>
>>I still find the docs confusing.  In particular,  they say exactly:
>>
>>Alias /wiki/ "C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
>>ScriptAlias /mywiki "C:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
>>
>>So I would assume that the "wiki" alias is there for a reason (maybe
>>its
>>a wiki with instructions?  I have no way of knowing.  I did see this
>>a
>>bit later "The first line you only need once; the second line is
>>needed
>>once for each wiki instance (of course, each one with another wiki
>>name
>>and path").),
>>
>>and that my new wiki is aliased at the virtual root mywiki.  The
>>problem
>>lies in the htdocs directory; index.html  redirects to moin.cgi.  As
>>far
>>as I can tell from the instructions, the server has not been
>>configured
>>for CGI in the the htdocs directory (the /wiki/ alias) so  I cannot
>>figure out how the wiki alias is ever supposed to work.
>>
>>I expect from the docs that http://host/wiki  should correspond to
>>some
>>default web pages or wiki that are supposed to be configured
>>and http://host/mywiki should correspond to my wiki instance.  Hence,
>>I
>>want to get the /wiki/ alias working before I try and get the
>>/mywiki/
>>alias working.
>>
>>  If the docs are indeed correct, what does Alias /wiki/
>>"C:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/" accomplish given the cgi redirect in
>>index.html (I am sincerely asking, not trying to be sarcastic)?  If I
>>can understand this maybe I can figure out whats going on.
>>
>>Doug
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Oh, you have problems? Doh!
>> >
>> >The 2nd part of your ScriptAlias is also not according to docs and
>> >won't work. The trailing slash is wrong in both aliases (you
>>swapped
>> >them).
>> >
>> >So next time before you diss the docs several people have invested
>>much
>> >time into, read harder!
>> >
>> >Ciao, J?rgen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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From tbird20d at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  5 06:54:03 2002
From: tbird20d at yahoo.com (Tim Bird)
Date: Thu Dec  5 06:54:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Titles Index
In-Reply-To: <19519908997.20021205160721@tietoenator.com>
Message-ID: <20021205145304.50000.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Uldis Bojars <uldis.bojars at tietoenator.com> wrote:
> Hello Juergen and everybody,
> 
> IMHO it would be usefull to be able to see TitleIndex without
> special
> purpose pages like Help... Hilfe... UserPref..., etc.
> 
> It is possible to make such feature? (checkbox?)

Yes, it should be pretty easy to add an option for this.

And the feature would be pretty easy to implement.  Whenever
I download MoinMoin, one of the first things I do is change the
OrphanedPages macro to omit template pages.  I use lines like
the following, in macro/OrphanedPages.py:

    # remove template pages from orphan list
    for orphan in orphaned.keys():
        if not orphan or orphan.endswith("Template"):
            del orphaned[orphan]

You could use a similar technique to remove items from the
title index before outputing it (based on the value of an
option).  Another method I have used is to create an OmittedPages
page, with a listing of pages that I don't want listed as part
of results for things.  I did this for a wiki exporting utility,
but you could use the same technique for TitleIndex, or for
searching.  Basically OmittedPages just held a list of pages
that were excluded from results.

Regards and good luck,

Tim



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From doug_ransom at telus.net  Thu Dec  5 06:59:05 2002
From: doug_ransom at telus.net (Doug Ransom)
Date: Thu Dec  5 06:59:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] wiki at the root in apache
Message-ID: <3DEF69D0.1030500@telus.net>

Does anyone know how to have a wiki at the host root?
http://wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws/

<VirtualHost *>
    ServerAdmin Doug.Ransom at alumni.uvic.ca
   
    Alias /wiki/ "e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
    ScriptAlias / "E:/data/ransom.wiki/moin.cgi"
    ServerName wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws
</VirtualHost>





From ransom at telus.net  Thu Dec  5 07:03:02 2002
From: ransom at telus.net (Ransom)
Date: Thu Dec  5 07:03:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] wiki at the root in apache
In-Reply-To: <3DEF69D0.1030500@telus.net>
References: <3DEF69D0.1030500@telus.net>
Message-ID: <3DEF6AA8.2050404@telus.net>

I sent this a little prematurely.
With the configuration below,
I get the main wiki page ok,
but clicling on any links to edit pages etc (i.e. 
http://wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws/FrontPage?action=edit) results in http 
error 404 (page not found).

 

> http://wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws/
>
> <VirtualHost *>
>    ServerAdmin Doug.Ransom at alumni.uvic.ca
>      Alias /wiki/ "e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
>    ScriptAlias / "E:/data/ransom.wiki/moin.cgi"
>    ServerName wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws
> </VirtualHost>
>
>
>
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From ransom at telus.net  Thu Dec  5 07:14:06 2002
From: ransom at telus.net (Ransom)
Date: Thu Dec  5 07:14:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] wiki at the root in apache
In-Reply-To: <3DEF69D0.1030500@telus.net>
References: <3DEF69D0.1030500@telus.net>
Message-ID: <3DEF6D48.4000507@telus.net>

Doug Ransom wrote:

I sent this a little prematurely.
With the configuration below,
I get the main wiki page ok,
but clicking on any links to edit pages etc (i.e. 
http://wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws/FrontPage?action=edit) results in http 
error 404 (page not found).

> Does anyone know how to have a wiki at the host root?
> http://wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws/
>
> <VirtualHost *>
>    ServerAdmin Doug.Ransom at alumni.uvic.ca
>      Alias /wiki/ "e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
>    ScriptAlias / "E:/data/ransom.wiki/moin.cgi"
>    ServerName wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws
> </VirtualHost>
>
>
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From doug_ransom at telus.net  Thu Dec  5 07:16:02 2002
From: doug_ransom at telus.net (Doug Ransom)
Date: Thu Dec  5 07:16:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] wiki at the root in apache
In-Reply-To: <3DEF69D0.1030500@telus.net>
References: <3DEF69D0.1030500@telus.net>
Message-ID: <3DEF6DC1.1010701@telus.net>

Doug Ransom wrote:

I sent this a little prematurely.
With the configuration below,
I get the main wiki page ok,
but clicking on any links to edit pages etc (i.e.
http://wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws/FrontPage?action=edit) results in http
error 404 (page not found).

> Does anyone know how to have a wiki at the host root?
> http://wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws/
>
> <VirtualHost *>
>    ServerAdmin Doug.Ransom at alumni.uvic.ca
>      Alias /wiki/ "e:/apps/moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
>    ScriptAlias / "E:/data/ransom.wiki/moin.cgi"
>    ServerName wiki.ransom.dyndns.ws
> </VirtualHost>
>
>
>
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From vas at gmx.ch  Thu Dec  5 08:40:03 2002
From: vas at gmx.ch (V.S.)
Date: Thu Dec  5 08:40:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: different css style for printing? (Joerg Desch)
In-Reply-To: <E18JxP4-0006OO-00@sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c29c7d$20f86530$7c3a3cd4@gigantic>

Hi folks!

The today message by Joerg Desch is addressing the same trouble I
encountered and described in my message from November 5th.

I would like to change the CSS stylesheet to meet our demands for lcd
display viewing and printing.

I changed several features from the moinmoin stylessheet, but somehow
only about 50% of the font face, size etc. options show noticeable
improvements.

Specifically, the title font size is very big, about 10% of our lcd
display size. I tried and tried hard to change the font size to half of
the initial size. But somehow the font size remains the same while the
main text font size is changeable via the same css stylesheet.

This problem is observed using Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.0 and Opera
installed on Windows 2000 and XP. Webserver is Apache 2.0.36.

Is the problem caused by css or webserver or...?

Best regards
Victor Senn

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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 11:04:47 +0100
From: Joerg Desch <jd at voelker-web.de>
To: <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Organization: Voelker Video- und Datentechnik
Subject: [Moin-user] different css style for printing?

Hello all.

I'm currently using 1.1.cvs20021008-1 of the debian moin package. With
this release, every `print view' of a page uses the same css file as the
normal view does. IMO this isn't a good choose. Is there a newer release
with support different ccs styles? Or is it possible to configure a css
file for printing?

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From jh at web.de  Thu Dec  5 09:10:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Dec  5 09:10:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Titles Index
In-Reply-To: <20021205145304.50000.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E18JzST-0007pn-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 06:53:04 -0800 (PST), Tim Bird wrote:

>option).  Another method I have used is to create an OmittedPages
>page, with a listing of pages that I don't want listed as part
>of results for things.  I did this for a wiki exporting utility,
>but you could use the same technique for TitleIndex, or for
>searching.  Basically OmittedPages just held a list of pages
>that were excluded from results.

I added this to wikiutil, so that there is a central place to change 
the policy what a system page is.

def isSystemPage(pagename):
    """Is this a template page?"""
    return isTemplatePage(pagename) or isFormPage(pagename)

I'll add this as a filter where it seems obvious (checkbox for the 
searches, f.x.).


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Thu Dec  5 09:33:05 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Dec  5 09:33:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Titles Index
In-Reply-To: <19519908997.20021205160721@tietoenator.com>
Message-ID: <E18Jzrb-00054g-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:07:21 +0200, Uldis Bojars wrote:

>IMHO it would be usefull to be able to see TitleIndex without special
>purpose pages like Help... Hilfe... UserPref..., etc.
>
>It is possible to make such feature? (checkbox?)

Done.


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Mon Dec  9 12:22:17 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Mon Dec  9 12:22:17 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Self-referring links
Message-ID: <E18LUP8-0006aS-00@smtp.web.de>

Does anyone see a reason NOT to supress self-referring links?


Ciao, J?rgen





From pobrien at orbtech.com  Mon Dec  9 12:48:22 2002
From: pobrien at orbtech.com (Patrick K. O'Brien)
Date: Mon Dec  9 12:48:22 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Self-referring links
In-Reply-To: <E18LUP8-0006aS-00@smtp.web.de>
References: <E18LUP8-0006aS-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <200212091446.20015.pobrien@orbtech.com>

On Monday 09 December 2002 02:21 pm, Juergen Hermann wrote:
> Does anyone see a reason NOT to supress self-referring links?

I can't think of any good reason not to, and I've often wished they 
would be suppressed.

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From Hans.Yandle at cingular.com  Mon Dec  9 12:52:07 2002
From: Hans.Yandle at cingular.com (Yandle, Hans)
Date: Mon Dec  9 12:52:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Self-referring links
Message-ID: <D31B04F24EDE7644BB169BB4F080778A06C2362A@s30342g004005>

Here is one, albeit a weak one. I have a wiki page that helps introduce the
site. Within the contents of the page, I provide an example explaining it
and an example of how to reference the very page itself.

Regards,

Hans

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Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:22 PM
To: MoinMoin Users
Subject: [Moin-user] Self-referring links


Does anyone see a reason NOT to supress self-referring links?


Ciao, J?rgen




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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Mon Dec  9 13:05:02 2002
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon Dec  9 13:05:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Self-referring links
References: <E18LUP8-0006aS-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <3DF505BF.8020405@waldmann-edv.de>

Juergen Hermann wrote:

>Does anyone see a reason NOT to supress self-referring links?
>
No. Did that in GaGa, too.





From robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl  Mon Dec  9 23:28:03 2002
From: robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl (Robert Groenewegen)
Date: Mon Dec  9 23:28:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Self-referring links (Juergen Hermann)
In-Reply-To: <E18LUad-00042F-00@sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021210081525.00a7f8d0@pop3.zonnet.nl>

Hi Juergen,

Only one, consistency. As in "Why the .... does that WikiName not become a 
hyperlink?".

Just my 2 cents ...

Robert

BTW who works happily with MoinMoin everyday


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>Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:21:42 +0100
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>Subject: [Moin-user] Self-referring links
>
>Does anyone see a reason NOT to supress self-referring links?
>
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From Dierk.Hoeppner at tib.uni-hannover.de  Mon Dec  9 23:42:05 2002
From: Dierk.Hoeppner at tib.uni-hannover.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22H=F6ppner=2C_Dierk=22?=)
Date: Mon Dec  9 23:42:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Self-referring links (Juergen Hermann)
Message-ID: <F15A23A5EBA5D411A38400D0B7B9EB5FE5436E@nts3040.tib.uni-hannover.de>

Hallo J?rgen,


> >Does anyone see a reason NOT to supress self-referring links?

Please suppress. Everyone expects a link to lead to some other page. Most
people will we confused if they click and nothing seems to happen. This
'inconsistent behaviour' can be explained in the docs but I bet no one will
think this to be unnatural.

greetings

Dierk

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From anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se  Tue Dec 10 01:31:07 2002
From: anders.eriksson at morateknikutveckling.se (Anders M Eriksson)
Date: Tue Dec 10 01:31:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] How to setup moinmoin in Twisted Matrix?
Message-ID: <r6cbvuotl1noli6c9rhjcmnpes8prbactc@4ax.com>

Hello!

How do I setup moinmoin for running in Twisted Matrix?

 I see the webapi directory but I can't figure out how to use it. Is
there some documentations that I have missed??

Anyone that can help me?

// Anders







From wa7nwp at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 10 08:51:08 2002
From: wa7nwp at yahoo.com (Bill Vodall - WA7NWP)
Date: Tue Dec 10 08:51:08 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Calling MoinMoin from a Web form
In-Reply-To: <r6cbvuotl1noli6c9rhjcmnpes8prbactc@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20021210083541.00b7ce40@pioneernet.net>

Hello,

I'm working on setting up a Wiki button on my home page.  If the text box is
empty, then it simply loads the FrontPage.  If there's a word in the text box, then
I want it to load that page.

The first part, with no text, works fine.   The second part is a bit of a problem as it
creates a "page=..." entry in the URL.   (The word page is configured in the web form.)

   http://www.jnos.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi?page=WikiPage

So what I'm hunting for is if there's an Action word for simply loading the page.    I'm
pretty sure there isn't in the 0.11 I'm mainly running.  Maybe in 1.0 which I'm soon
to move to. 

Here's my web page (http://www.jnos.org) form entry:

<td valign=center>
   <FORM name="WikiForm" method="GET" action="http://www.jnos.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi">
     <INPUT type="text" name="page" size=10>
     <INPUT type="button" value="Wiki" onclick="validateWiki()">
   </FORM>
</td>


And here's the JavaScript it calls:

function validateWiki() {
   if (document.WikiForm.page.value=="") {
     window.open("http://wiki.jnos.org/")
     }
   else {
     document.WikiForm.submit()
     }
   }


Thanks..
Bill




From jh at web.de  Tue Dec 10 11:08:06 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Dec 10 11:08:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] How to setup moinmoin in Twisted Matrix?
In-Reply-To: <r6cbvuotl1noli6c9rhjcmnpes8prbactc@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <E18LpjP-00020W-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:18:14 +0100, Anders M Eriksson wrote:

>How do I setup moinmoin for running in Twisted Matrix?
>
> I see the webapi directory but I can't figure out how to use it. Is
>there some documentations that I have missed??
>
>Anyone that can help me?

Run it in CGI mode. Native twisted support is not available yet.

Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Tue Dec 10 11:13:04 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Dec 10 11:13:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Calling MoinMoin from a Web form
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20021210083541.00b7ce40@pioneernet.net>
Message-ID: <E18Lpnl-0003AD-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:50:24 -0800, Bill Vodall - WA7NWP wrote:

>function validateWiki() {
>   if (document.WikiForm.page.value=="") {
>     window.open("http://wiki.jnos.org/")
>     }
>   else {
>     document.WikiForm.submit()
>     }
>   }

Why don't you simply construct a fitting URL, instead of submitting?


Ciao, J?rgen





From kentsin at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 11 08:53:04 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Wed Dec 11 08:53:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Using directory name as WikiName
Message-ID: <20021211165221.87223.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com>

I am making a wikifarm, I would like to make the
moin_config.py untouch.

What I want is to use the directory name as sitename
and interwikiname

I have try to :

import sys
import os.path

sitename = os.path.dirname(sys.path[0])
interwikiname = sitename

But it sets the sitename as blank. Are there any way
to set sitename as the directory name? I am using
moinmoin on a win 98.

Rgs,

Kent Sin

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From mark_messer at calypso.com  Wed Dec 11 15:24:03 2002
From: mark_messer at calypso.com (Mark Messer)
Date: Wed Dec 11 15:24:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] turning off intercaps wiki names
Message-ID: <004e01c2a16c$08f04860$370a0a64@ZEUS>

I love the Wiki philosophy, with one exception: intercaps words are
automatically made links.

Can I set up MoinMoin to force the page author to designate links?

I don't want to have to backquote or put "!" in front of wiki names.

"#format plain" does not work for me because it nevers lets you define
links.

I looked at the GaGa parser which automatically makes links of existing
pages. Do I also need to hack parsers/wiki.py to do what I need?


(BTW, I like Thomas' idea - I would want links to be either explicitly
defined, or defined if they reference an existing page).

Thanks.







From bragiba at simi.is  Wed Dec 11 17:09:12 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Wed Dec 11 17:09:12 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Using directory name as WikiName
Message-ID: <OF2B957935.4C4A4894-ON00256C8C.00829DAE-00256C8C.00829E34@simi.is>

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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Thu Dec 12 03:18:08 2002
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Dec 12 03:18:08 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] turning off intercaps wiki names
References: <004e01c2a16c$08f04860$370a0a64@ZEUS>
Message-ID: <3DF87023.7060208@waldmann-edv.de>

Hi Mark,

> I looked at the GaGa parser which automatically makes links of existing
> pages. Do I also need to hack parsers/wiki.py to do what I need?

Yes. But maybe it would be best to discuss a bit before (so that we 
maybe find features and methods useful for all users).

> (BTW, I like Thomas' idea - I would want links to be either explicitly
> defined, or defined if they reference an existing page).

The latest incarnation of GaGaParser (see

http://linuxwiki.de/gaga/GaGa)

was modified to make a link out of (almost) ANY word. So you simply 
write standard text and the parser makes wikilinks out of ALL words 
except the words on GaGaBlackList (simple words like "and", "or", "he", 
"she" etc.).

Standard text becomes an almost "invisible" link as the markup is 
neither coloured nor underlined, but if you move the mouse pointer over 
it, you'll see that it really is a link (and you can create a page by 
clicking on it).

If the page already exists, the link gets coloured either blue (exact 
match) or violet (case-insensitive match). Colours maybe need to improve.

The advantage of making a link out of any word is that you do not need 
CamelCase or [".."] to initially make the link, just click on the words.

The disadvantage is that HTML output gets bigger, currently much bigger, 
but that can be further optimized to <a href="...">word</a>. In the age 
of websites with much graphics, video etc. and web servers/clients using 
gzip compression, this should be no real problem.

And because ANY word is a link anyway, there would be the possibility to 
drop CamelCase and let it to the user to either just use automatic 
markup or to further emphasize this automatic markup by using manual 
markup for bold (or underlined [still to be implemented]).

I think this parser modification is very user-friendly although 
(optionally) breaking with CamelCase culture.

The subpage stuff has yet to be tested/defined for this latest incarnation.

greetings,

Thomas




From vieglais at ku.edu  Thu Dec 12 09:39:03 2002
From: vieglais at ku.edu (Vieglais, David A)
Date: Thu Dec 12 09:39:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Link question
Message-ID: <F73B91BED37FD5119F970008C7CF50FCD87B89@skylark.mail.ukans.edu>

Is there a way to make the term in a term definition list a link?  I've RTM
and tried the following:

  FrontPage :: This should link to the FrontPage.
  wiki:FrontPage :: Does this work?
  [wiki:FrontPage Front Page] :: How about this?
  [http://localhost/moin.cgi/FrontPage Front Page] :: Works, but is a bit
messy eh?

But the first three more desirable options don't work.

Thanks,
  Dave V.



From ralf at zosel.com  Thu Dec 12 09:58:17 2002
From: ralf at zosel.com (Ralf Zosel)
Date: Thu Dec 12 09:58:17 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Link question
In-Reply-To: <F73B91BED37FD5119F970008C7CF50FCD87B89@skylark.mail.ukans.edu>
References: <F73B91BED37FD5119F970008C7CF50FCD87B89@skylark.mail.ukans.edu>
Message-ID: <E18MXcC-00027y-00@debian>

On Thursday 12 December 2002 18:37, you wrote:
> Is there a way to make the term in a term definition list a link?  I've RTM
> and tried the following:
>
>   FrontPage :: This should link to the FrontPage.
>   wiki:FrontPage :: Does this work?
>   [wiki:FrontPage Front Page] :: How about this?
>   [http://localhost/moin.cgi/FrontPage Front Page] :: Works, but is a bit
> messy eh?

[wiki:Wiki:FrontPage PortlandPatternRepository] works too and the result 
looks pretty



From adam at personaltelco.net  Thu Dec 12 10:42:05 2002
From: adam at personaltelco.net (Adam Shand)
Date: Thu Dec 12 10:42:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] huge python processes
Message-ID: <3DF8D849.70005@personaltelco.net>

Hi,

I'm having problems with Python growing to enourmous sizes on my server. 
  The only Python CGI running in Moin and restarting apache solves the 
problem (it takes about a day to get this bad).


Mem:    506324K total,   501924K used,     4400K free,     3892K buffers
Swap:  2000084K total,  1883264K used,   116820K free,    14020K cached

    PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
27678 ptp       15   0  497M 105M   356 D     3.7 21.2  34:52 python2.2
30570 ptp       14   0  285M 103M   356 D     2.1 21.0  19:28 python2.2
28081 ptp       11   0  479M  71M   368 D     1.3 14.4  22:47 python2.2
27650 ptp       17   0  495M  70M   360 D     3.9 14.3  31:52 python2.2
30635 ptp        9   0  480M  56M   760 D     0.3 11.4  22:03 python2.2

What really confusing to me is that it's the python processes that are 
getting huge, since Moin runs as a CGI shouldn't the python processes be 
dying off after each request?

Any help or ideas of how to troubleshoot would be much appreciated.  I'm 
running apache 1.3.26, python 2.2.1 and a slightly hacked moin 1.1 (just 
for appearance stuff):

   http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi?test

MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
======================

Package "MoinMoin" sucessfully imported.

Release  1.1
Revision 1.161

Python version 2.2.1 (#1, Sep  7 2002, 14:34:30)
[GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)]
Python installed to /usr

PyXML is installed

Checking directories...
     data directory tests OK (set to 
'/var/local/www.personaltelco.net/moin')
     text directory tests OK (set to 
'/var/local/www.personaltelco.net/moin/text')
     user directory tests OK (set to 
'/var/local/www.personaltelco.net/moin/user')
     backup directory tests OK (set to 
'/var/local/www.personaltelco.net/moin/backup')

Found an external diff: "diff - GNU diffutils version 2.7"

Server Environment:
     ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST!


Thanks,
Adam.




From jh at web.de  Thu Dec 12 11:23:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Hermann?=)
Date: Thu Dec 12 11:23:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] huge python processes
In-Reply-To: <3DF8D849.70005@personaltelco.net>
References: <3DF8D849.70005@personaltelco.net>
Message-ID: <E18MYu9-0006yC-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:41:13 -0800 Adam Shand <adam at personaltelco.net> wrote:

AS> What really confusing to me is that it's the python processes that are 
AS> getting huge, since Moin runs as a CGI shouldn't the python processes
AS> be 
AS> dying off after each request?

Yes indeed. What can make processes grow is a huge event.log (rotate it).
What could cause the persistent huge processes is stats images, with a huge
event log they take VERY long, and the user who requested the image is
prolly long gone, the process OTOH still tries to render the image.





From jh at web.de  Thu Dec 12 11:28:01 2002
From: jh at web.de (=?UTF-8?Q?J=FCrgen=20Hermann?=)
Date: Thu Dec 12 11:28:01 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Link question
In-Reply-To: <E18MXcC-00027y-00@debian>
References: <F73B91BED37FD5119F970008C7CF50FCD87B89@skylark.mail.ukans.edu>
 <E18MXcC-00027y-00@debian>
Message-ID: <E18MYya-0003qr-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:59:16 +0100 Ralf Zosel <ralf at zosel.com> wrote:

RZ> [wiki:Wiki:FrontPage PortlandPatternRepository] works too and the
RZ> result 
RZ> looks pretty

Oh, that works?! That is by accident then. ;)

... later. No, doesn't work for me. Which is correct, and a bug, and will be
fixed sometime with a refactoring of the parser code.




From jh at web.de  Thu Dec 12 11:33:04 2002
From: jh at web.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Hermann?=)
Date: Thu Dec 12 11:33:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] turning off intercaps wiki names
In-Reply-To: <004e01c2a16c$08f04860$370a0a64@ZEUS>
References: <004e01c2a16c$08f04860$370a0a64@ZEUS>
Message-ID: <E18MZ3k-0000lQ-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:21:29 -0800 Mark Messer <mark_messer at calypso.com> wrote:

MM> Can I set up MoinMoin to force the page author to designate links?

Try to set config.lowerletters to an empty string (or maybe '\1'). No guarantees.




From adam at personaltelco.net  Thu Dec 12 11:58:03 2002
From: adam at personaltelco.net (Adam Shand)
Date: Thu Dec 12 11:58:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] huge python processes
In-Reply-To: <E18MYu9-0006yC-00@smtp.web.de>
References: <3DF8D849.70005@personaltelco.net> <E18MYu9-0006yC-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <3DF8EA28.9010901@personaltelco.net>

Yes indeedy ... that could be doing it.  They have gotten a tad large 
haven't they.  Guess I forgot to copy of the log rolling script when I 
moved it to the new server:

# ls -l *log
-rw-r--r--    1 ptp      ptp        472135 Dec 12 08:13 editlog
-rw-r--r--    1 ptp      ptp       4898233 Dec 12 11:39 err_log
-rw-r--r--    1 ptp      ptp     120108212 Dec 12 11:44 event.log

Thanks J?rgen, I've rotated them and hopefully that'll solve the problem.

Adam.

J?rgen Hermann wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:41:13 -0800 Adam Shand <adam at personaltelco.net> wrote:
> 
> AS> What really confusing to me is that it's the python processes that are 
> AS> getting huge, since Moin runs as a CGI shouldn't the python processes
> AS> be dying off after each request?
> 
> Yes indeed. What can make processes grow is a huge event.log (rotate it).
> What could cause the persistent huge processes is stats images, with a huge
> event log they take VERY long, and the user who requested the image is
> prolly long gone, the process OTOH still tries to render the image.
> 




From bragiba at simi.is  Fri Dec 13 01:18:03 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Fri Dec 13 01:18:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Link question
Message-ID: <OF9726C943.F42827D4-ON00256C8E.003282DD-00256C8E.003323F7@simi.is>


>   FrontPage :: This should link to the FrontPage.      ---> This will
never work
>   wiki:FrontPage :: Does this work?                    ---> This will
never work
>   [wiki:FrontPage Front Page] :: How about this?       ---> This will
work

If [wiki:FrontPage Front Page] does not work then edit your intermap.txt
file and add a new
entry say
MyWikiBase http://your.server.ip.address/MyWiki/

then use this
[wiki:MyWikiBase:FrontPage Front Page]

Adding things to intermap.txt to make link names much shorter is a good
thing when you have a
lot of links to the same directory.  For example an image directory

Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
Bragi Baldursson


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On Thursday 12 December 2002 18:37, you wrote:
> Is there a way to make the term in a term definition list a link?  I've
RTM
> and tried the following:
>
>   FrontPage :: This should link to the FrontPage.
>   wiki:FrontPage :: Does this work?
>   [wiki:FrontPage Front Page] :: How about this?
>   [http://localhost/moin.cgi/FrontPage Front Page] :: Works, but is a bit
> messy eh?

[wiki:Wiki:FrontPage PortlandPatternRepository] works too and the result
looks pretty


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From mike at bindkey.com  Fri Dec 13 09:22:08 2002
From: mike at bindkey.com (Mike Rovner)
Date: Fri Dec 13 09:22:08 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Link problem in latest cvs
Message-ID: <atd3lg$q52$1@main.gmane.org>

after cvs update (of  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin ) old complex
links like <<boost.python/HowTo>> went broken:
they are interpreted as <<boost.python / HowTo>>
instead of <<["boost.python/HowTo"]>> :(

Note: <<...>> quote marks for that message







From jh at web.de  Fri Dec 13 10:40:04 2002
From: jh at web.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Hermann?=)
Date: Fri Dec 13 10:40:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Link problem in latest cvs
In-Reply-To: <atd3lg$q52$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <atd3lg$q52$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <E18MuiO-0002NS-00@smtp.web.de>

On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:01:08 -0800 Mike Rovner <mike at bindkey.com> wrote:

MR> after cvs update (of  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin ) old
MR> complex
MR> links like <<boost.python/HowTo>> went broken:
MR> they are interpreted as <<boost.python / HowTo>>
MR> instead of <<["boost.python/HowTo"]>> :(
MR> 
MR> Note: <<...>> quote marks for that message

See the wiki for ways to fix it.




From mike at bindkey.com  Fri Dec 13 11:07:18 2002
From: mike at bindkey.com (Mike Rovner)
Date: Fri Dec 13 11:07:18 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Link problem in latest cvs
References: <atd3lg$q52$1@main.gmane.org> <E18MuiO-0002NS-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <atdb11$14u$1@main.gmane.org>

"J?rgen Hermann" <jh at web.de> wrote in message
news:E18MuiO-0002NS-00 at smtp.web.de...
> On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:01:08 -0800 Mike Rovner <mike at bindkey.com> wrote:
>
> MR> after cvs update (of  http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin ) old
> MR> complex
> MR> links like <<boost.python/HowTo>> went broken:
> MR> they are interpreted as <<boost.python / HowTo>>
> MR> instead of <<["boost.python/HowTo"]>> :(
> MR>
> MR> Note: <<...>> quote marks for that message
>
> See the wiki for ways to fix it.

Fixed. Very cool short style - I like it.







From stellsmi at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 16 07:26:02 2002
From: stellsmi at yahoo.com (Jeremy Stell-Smith)
Date: Mon Dec 16 07:26:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates
Message-ID: <20021216152521.58534.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com>

So I was looking at moin, trying to get it to look the
way I wanted it to, and I was suprised to find that
it's not template based.  All the html for the body /
navbars, etc is contained w/in python files.  

I'm currently using PHPWiki, and it was SO much easier
to configure because it has themes.

So, my questions.  Am I missing something?  Is this in
the works?  Would y'all be interested in a patch that
did this (if I could find the time)?

Jeremy

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From tbird20d at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 16 07:42:02 2002
From: tbird20d at yahoo.com (Tim Bird)
Date: Mon Dec 16 07:42:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates
In-Reply-To: <20021216152521.58534.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20021216154100.54618.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Jeremy Stell-Smith <stellsmi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> So I was looking at moin, trying to get it to look the
> way I wanted it to, and I was suprised to find that
> it's not template based.  All the html for the body /
> navbars, etc is contained w/in python files.  
> 
> I'm currently using PHPWiki, and it was SO much easier
> to configure because it has themes.
> 
> So, my questions.  Am I missing something?  Is this in
> the works?  Would y'all be interested in a patch that
> did this (if I could find the time)?

I think Jurgen has mentioned template before, but I don't 
know the status.  I have been thinking about doing this also,
for some time.  But I've never found the time.  I'd love to
see a patch from you.  But you should get feedback from Jurgen
first to see what's on his roadmap.

Thanks,

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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Mon Dec 16 08:09:04 2002
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon Dec 16 08:09:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates
References: <20021216152521.58534.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DFDFA2E.2090607@waldmann-edv.de>

Hi Jeremy,

> So I was looking at moin, trying to get it to look the
> way I wanted it to, and I was suprised to find that
> it's not template based.

Not yet at least. I think there simply wasn't much need / demand yet.

Python is easy, you can simply modify the fragments in wikiutil.py. And 
most of the stuff is even overrideable via moin_config.py (see the docs 
and the default values of these settings in config.py).

There are some moins out there running with modified design, maybe ask 
them before doing much work.

> I'm currently using PHPWiki, and it was SO much easier
> to configure because it has themes.

Maybe this is one advantage of PHPWiki.

MoinMoin has many other advantages (see recent post here of sb else).

> Would y'all be interested in a patch that did this (if I could find the time)?

Juergen has already plans for templates.

Personally, I don't need them very much, I'm more interested in some 
functionality than in design.

greetings,

Thomas




From jh at web.de  Mon Dec 16 11:23:03 2002
From: jh at web.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Hermann?=)
Date: Mon Dec 16 11:23:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates
In-Reply-To: <20021216154100.54618.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20021216154100.54618.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E18O0oU-0002dv-00@smtp.web.de>

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:41:00 -0800 (PST) Tim Bird <tbird20d at yahoo.com> wrote:

TB> I think Jurgen has mentioned template before, but I don't 
TB> know the status.  I have been thinking about doing this also,
TB> for some time.  But I've never found the time.  I'd love to
TB> see a patch from you.  But you should get feedback from Jurgen
TB> first to see what's on his roadmap.

The main point is that is has to fit in with the pre-caching I plan to add,
and the structure of that is not yet decided upon. So if you find time
before x-mas, coordinate anything you do with me, else I'll start
on it anyway.





From Hans.Yandle at cingular.com  Mon Dec 16 11:42:03 2002
From: Hans.Yandle at cingular.com (Yandle, Hans)
Date: Mon Dec 16 11:42:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates
Message-ID: <D31B04F24EDE7644BB169BB4F080778A06C2364B@s30342g004005>

For a template engine I would suggest using
http://www.bouncingchairs.net/oss/cmTemplate.html 

-----Original Message-----
From: J?rgen Hermann [mailto:jh at web.de]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:22 PM
To: tim at bird.org; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re[2]: [Moin-user] Templates


On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:41:00 -0800 (PST) Tim Bird <tbird20d at yahoo.com>
wrote:

TB> I think Jurgen has mentioned template before, but I don't 
TB> know the status.  I have been thinking about doing this also,
TB> for some time.  But I've never found the time.  I'd love to
TB> see a patch from you.  But you should get feedback from Jurgen
TB> first to see what's on his roadmap.

The main point is that is has to fit in with the pre-caching I plan to add,
and the structure of that is not yet decided upon. So if you find time
before x-mas, coordinate anything you do with me, else I'll start
on it anyway.




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From brian at dorseys.org  Mon Dec 16 13:35:02 2002
From: brian at dorseys.org (Brian Dorsey)
Date: Mon Dec 16 13:35:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Templates
In-Reply-To: <D31B04F24EDE7644BB169BB4F080778A06C2364B@s30342g004005>
References: <D31B04F24EDE7644BB169BB4F080778A06C2364B@s30342g004005>
Message-ID: <20021216215648.GA24934@dorseys.org>

If we're tossing out links to python teplating systems, I'll throw in my
favorite: 

http://www.cheetahtemplate.org/

See especially, What is the philosophy behind Cheetah?

Take care,
-Brian

On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:39:51PM -0500, Yandle, Hans wrote:
> For a template engine I would suggest using
> http://www.bouncingchairs.net/oss/cmTemplate.html 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J?rgen Hermann [mailto:jh at web.de]
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: tim at bird.org; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re[2]: [Moin-user] Templates
> 
> 
> On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 07:41:00 -0800 (PST) Tim Bird <tbird20d at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> TB> I think Jurgen has mentioned template before, but I don't 
> TB> know the status.  I have been thinking about doing this also,
> TB> for some time.  But I've never found the time.  I'd love to
> TB> see a patch from you.  But you should get feedback from Jurgen
> TB> first to see what's on his roadmap.
> 
> The main point is that is has to fit in with the pre-caching I plan to add,
> and the structure of that is not yet decided upon. So if you find time
> before x-mas, coordinate anything you do with me, else I'll start
> on it anyway.
> 
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From kentsin at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 17 04:07:06 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Tue Dec 17 04:07:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] many files
Message-ID: <20021217120654.96055.qmail@web20706.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear friends,

I have hit the speed limit with about 1000 pages
created automatically on a win 98 FAT fs.

Will switch to a reiserfs or xfs solve this? How many
pages does MoinMoin can handle?

I am considering breaking the pages into multiple
wikis to help with the performance. Are there any
tools I could use to help making them perform as a
group? For example, can I lists pages in another wiki?
or created pages in another wiki?

Rgs,

Kent Sin

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From mike at bindkey.com  Tue Dec 17 11:04:03 2002
From: mike at bindkey.com (Mike Rovner)
Date: Tue Dec 17 11:04:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Self-referring links (Juergen Hermann)
References: <F15A23A5EBA5D411A38400D0B7B9EB5FE5436E@nts3040.tib.uni-hannover.de>
Message-ID: <atns74$kpn$1@main.gmane.org>

> >Does anyone see a reason NOT to supress self-referring links?

Suppressing is OK.
But after suppressing we have slight inconsistency in displaying
(IF user preference is to separate wikinames with spaces):

SelfReference is different from Foreign Reference.
--------------                         -------------------

WBR,
Mike







From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Tue Dec 17 15:40:06 2002
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue Dec 17 15:40:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] many files
References: <20021217120654.96055.qmail@web20706.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DFFAFEF.4020706@waldmann-edv.de>

Hi kent,

>I have hit the speed limit with about 1000 pages
>created automatically on a win 98 FAT fs.
>
>Will switch to a reiserfs or xfs solve this?
>
At linuxwiki.de we use Linux and ext3 file system and we have no 
problems. 1300 pages.

>How many pages does MoinMoin can handle?
>
As many as a real filesystem on a real OS can.

>I am considering breaking the pages into multiple
>wikis to help with the performance.
>
That is a weird "solution" to your problem. Why don't you solve the 
problem at its root?

If you must use windows, then at least choose NTFS instead of that 
braindead FAT filesystem that was designed for floppies 20 years ago.

But choosing Linux would be the best solution. reiserfs would be very 
space efficient with many small files, but maybe not as stable as ext3.

greetings,

Thomas





From altis at semi-retired.com  Tue Dec 17 16:09:09 2002
From: altis at semi-retired.com (Kevin Altis)
Date: Tue Dec 17 16:09:09 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] many files
In-Reply-To: <20021217120654.96055.qmail@web20706.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <KJEOLDOPMIDKCMJDCNDPKEPNCJAA.altis@semi-retired.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kent sin
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I have hit the speed limit with about 1000 pages
> created automatically on a win 98 FAT fs.
>
> Will switch to a reiserfs or xfs solve this? How many
> pages does MoinMoin can handle?
>
> I am considering breaking the pages into multiple
> wikis to help with the performance. Are there any
> tools I could use to help making them perform as a
> group? For example, can I lists pages in another wiki?
> or created pages in another wiki?
>
> Rgs,
>
> Kent Sin

I suspect your problem has more to do with Win98 than FAT. Win98 is not
really designed to be a server and there are a number of places where you
could run out of resources. A Win98 box with at least 64MB would be able to
run NT 4. If you have a recent enough BIOS and say 128MB you could run Win2K
Pro or XP Pro comfortably, both are preferred over NT 4. FAT32 and/or NTFS
for the disk should both be fine. Of course, you could also go the Linux
route, but that would be bad news if you don't have any Unix background or
someone that can help you with Linux while you learn. With either Linux, NT,
2K, or XP you will have tools that will help pinpoint where the bottleneck
is if you still have one after moving off of Win98.

ka




From kentsin at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 17 19:37:15 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Tue Dec 17 19:37:15 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin as presentation tool
Message-ID: <20021218033657.20853.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com>

Are there any way to hide the MoinMoin Logo and Make
the text larger?

I want to make MoinMoin as a presentation tool which I
want to introduce it to a group of librarians.   The
reason is I want to give them some demo immediately
which using MoinMoin as a presentation tool will help
me shown them immediately how this can be done.

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From kentsin at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 17 20:42:03 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Tue Dec 17 20:42:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Center and right ?
Message-ID: <20021218044047.31201.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com>

How to align text center ? How to align right?

Rgs,

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From bragiba at simi.is  Wed Dec 18 01:00:05 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Wed Dec 18 01:00:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin as presentation tool
Message-ID: <OFB319F15C.B57A655F-ON00256C93.0030ED95-00256C93.00318F4B@simi.is>


The moinmoin logo is a gif picture named moinmoin.gif in your htdocs/img
directory.   You can do either of two things:
1. Replace moinmoin.gif with an image of your logo.
2. The logo_url is defined in your wiki instance moin_config.py file
logo_url = prefix + '/img/moinmoin.gif'
     Change moinmoin.gif to whatever my_logo.gif


Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
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Are there any way to hide the MoinMoin Logo and Make
the text larger?

I want to make MoinMoin as a presentation tool which I
want to introduce it to a group of librarians.   The
reason is I want to give them some demo immediately
which using MoinMoin as a presentation tool will help
me shown them immediately how this can be done.

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From bragiba at simi.is  Wed Dec 18 01:03:03 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Wed Dec 18 01:03:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Center and right ?
Message-ID: <OF9790231A.717D76A9-ON00256C93.00315F1F-00256C93.0031D2A6@simi.is>


Use the HTML macro  See
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/MacroMarket
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/macro_2fHTML_2epy

Then you can use the macro syntax to do special html stuff moinmoin does
not do for you.
[[HTML(<center>)]]This text has to be centered[[HTML(</center>)]]

Same thing with right aligned.   Just find the syntax for that.


Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
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How to align text center ? How to align right?

Rgs,

Kent Sin

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From kentsin at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 18 01:16:02 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Wed Dec 18 01:16:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Proper interwiki name with space?
Message-ID: <20021218091518.2379.qmail@web20701.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear friends,

I have trouble construct a right free-form interwiki
name:

I have try many forms, it seems that 

wiki:InterWiki/WikiName 
 
works, but none of  the below works. Should I report
this as bug? or there is a correct way to spell it?

 [wiki:personalNames/WikiName with Space]

 [wiki:personalNames/"WikiName with Space"]

wiki:personalNames/&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;
&#35696;&#21729;

wiki:personalNames/&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;
&#35696;&#21729;"]

wiki:personalNames["/&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;"]
&#35696;&#21729;

["wiki:personalNames/&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;"]&#35696;&#21729;

wiki:["personalNames/&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;"]&#35696;&#21729;

wiki:personalNames/[aNamw
space]&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;"]&#35696;&#21729;

wiki:personalNames["/&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;"]&#35696;&#21729;

[wiki:personalNames/&#26753;&#24950;&#24237;
&#35696;&#21729;]

[wiki:personalNames/"&#26753;&#24950;&#24237; &#35696;&#21729;"]

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From kentsin at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 18 01:22:05 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Wed Dec 18 01:22:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Center and right ?
In-Reply-To: <OF9790231A.717D76A9-ON00256C93.00315F1F-00256C93.0031D2A6@simi.is>
Message-ID: <20021218092107.24728.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com>

Bragiba,

Thanks a lot for your great help.

After sent out the question, I have found a way to
make center and right align with tables. 

However, the table always have the border, even I have
set it with 

||<tablewidth="100%" border="0" )> some right align
text|| 

Are there any place I can switch off the table border?

Rgs,

kent Sin
--- bragiba at simi.is wrote:
> 
> Use the HTML macro  See
>
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/MacroMarket
>
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/macro_2fHTML_2epy
> 
> Then you can use the macro syntax to do special html
> stuff moinmoin does
> not do for you.
> [[HTML(<center>)]]This text has to be
> centered[[HTML(</center>)]]
> 
> Same thing with right aligned.   Just find the
> syntax for that.
> 
> 
> Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
> Bragi Baldursson
> GPRS Kerfisverkfr??ingur/GPRS Systems Engineer
> S?mi/Tel.:  +354 550 63 08   
> mailto:bragiba at siminn.is
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> How to align text center ? How to align right?
> 
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From bragiba at simi.is  Wed Dec 18 01:26:03 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Wed Dec 18 01:26:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Proper interwiki name with space?
Message-ID: <OFA72161A8.5C387F29-ON00256C93.0033323C-00256C93.0033EA64@simi.is>



[wiki:personalNames/"WikiName with Space"]
This is a configurable feature enabled by allow_extended_names, so it might
not work!

To include spaces in names try using the space symbol
[wiki:personalNames/WikiName%20with%20Space]


Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
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From kentsin at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 18 01:34:03 2002
From: kentsin at yahoo.com (kent sin)
Date: Wed Dec 18 01:34:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Proper interwiki name with space?
In-Reply-To: <OFA72161A8.5C387F29-ON00256C93.0033323C-00256C93.0033EA64@simi.is>
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> [wiki:personalNames/"WikiName with Space"]
> This is a configurable feature enabled by
> allow_extended_names, so it might
> not work!

I have already config that. Local free form names
works.


> 
> To include spaces in names try using the space
> symbol
> [wiki:personalNames/WikiName%20with%20Space]
> 

That woks, but it shown as %20 instead space. 


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From bragiba at simi.is  Wed Dec 18 01:35:02 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Wed Dec 18 01:35:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Center and right ?
Message-ID: <OFEE256D57.FA1893A1-ON00256C93.00347056-00256C93.0034AF7E@simi.is>


You should right align like this
[[HTML(<p align="right")>)]]This is right aligned[[HTML(</p>)]]


Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
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                      <kentsin at yahoo.c         To:      bragiba at simi.is                                                         
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                                               Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Center and right ?                                      
                      18.12.2002 09:21                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                




Bragiba,

Thanks a lot for your great help.

After sent out the question, I have found a way to
make center and right align with tables.

However, the table always have the border, even I have
set it with

||<tablewidth="100%" border="0" )> some right align
text||

Are there any place I can switch off the table border?

Rgs,

kent Sin
--- bragiba at simi.is wrote:
>
> Use the HTML macro  See
>
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/MacroMarket
>
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/macro_2fHTML_2epy
>
> Then you can use the macro syntax to do special html
> stuff moinmoin does
> not do for you.
> [[HTML(<center>)]]This text has to be
> centered[[HTML(</center>)]]
>
> Same thing with right aligned.   Just find the
> syntax for that.
>
>
> Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
> Bragi Baldursson
> GPRS Kerfisverkfr??ingur/GPRS Systems Engineer
> S?mi/Tel.:  +354 550 63 08
> mailto:bragiba at siminn.is
> Fax:  +354 550 63 39    www:http://www.siminn.is
> Gsm:   +354 892 63 08
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>                       18.12.2002 04:40
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How to align text center ? How to align right?
>
> Rgs,
>
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From robert.groenewegen at zonnet.nl  Wed Dec 18 02:54:02 2002
From: robert.groenewegen at zonnet.nl (Robert Groenewegen)
Date: Wed Dec 18 02:54:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] pgp?
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021218115008.00ad8bf8@pop3.zonnet.nl>

Dear all,

Some people use PGP (I guess) which is no fun if you receive the digest. I 
may (but I don't know that for sure 8-) miss some excellent answers because 
I am not able to decipher this kind of stuff while reading ... ;-)

Thanks if you can change your mailconfiguration!!

Bye, Robert

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biB5b3VyIGh0ZG9jcy9pbWcNCmRpcmVjdG9yeS4gICBZb3UgY2FuIGRvIGVpdGhlciBvZiB0d28g
dGhpbmdzOg0KMS4gUmVwbGFjZSBtb2lubW9pbi5naWYgd2l0aCBhbiBpbWFnZSBvZiB5b3VyIGxv
Z28uDQoyLiBUaGUgbG9nb191cmwgaXMgZGVmaW5lZCBpbiB5b3VyIHdpa2kgaW5zdGFuY2UgbW9p
bl9jb25maWcucHkgZmlsZQ0KbG9nb191cmwgPSBwcmVmaXggKyAnL2ltZy9tb2lubW9pbi5naWYn
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From bragiba at simi.is  Wed Dec 18 03:17:02 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Wed Dec 18 03:17:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] pgp?  Testing Lotus Notes
Message-ID: <OF661CB125.9E7B4E0A-ON00256C93.003DB222-00256C93.003DE628@simi.is>

Unfortunately I am stuck with Lotus Notes at work and it is very 
unpredictable.   I thought I was sending Plain Text mails all the time but 
apparently I am not.  I have modified some settings to send MIME messages 
as PLAIN TEXT only.    This should be visible to all now.....

Let me know if you get any other crap with this message.


Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
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From lele at seldati.it  Wed Dec 18 05:48:19 2002
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Wed Dec 18 05:48:19 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Center and right ?
In-Reply-To: <20021218092107.24728.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <OF9790231A.717D76A9-ON00256C93.00315F1F-00256C93.0031D2A6@simi.is>
	<20021218092107.24728.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15872.31878.322255.452327@paci.nautilus>

>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:21:07 -0800 (PST), kent sin <kentsin at yahoo.com> said:

    ks> However, the table always have the border, even I have set it
    ks> with

    ks> ||<tablewidth="100%" border="0" )> some right align text||

    ks> Are there any place I can switch off the table border?

The right syntax for it is

  ||<tablewidth="100%" tableborder="0"> ... ||

ciao, lele.
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From jh at web.de  Wed Dec 18 14:35:08 2002
From: jh at web.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Hermann?=)
Date: Wed Dec 18 14:35:08 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Changing CSS styles
Message-ID: <E18Omm2-0000OR-00@smtp.web.de>

The best way to change the visual appearance of your wiki site is by inherting the default MoinMoin styles and only changing those things you want to adapt to your likings. This avoids the work involved in copying new styles added during development to your own stylesheets. To do this, we use the CSS `@import`  mechanism like this:

{{{
/*  #python wiki styles */
@import url("/users/jh/wiki/css/moinmoin.css");

h1,h2,h3,h4,h5 {
    background-color: #88CCFF; /* #EECC99; */
}
a:link {
    color: #0096CC;
}
a:visited {
    color: #0063a5;
}
}}}

In the second line, we import the default styles as distributed with MoinMoin.
You have to change the URL to fit your system setup, likely to "`/wiki/css/moinmoin.css`".

In the following lines, we change the background color of headlines and the colors of hyperlinks. And that's it.




From jh at web.de  Wed Dec 18 15:49:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen=20Hermann?=)
Date: Wed Dec 18 15:49:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Changing CSS styles
Message-ID: <E18Onv2-0006Ry-00@smtp.web.de>

[resent, possibly duplicate]

The best way to change the visual appearance of your wiki site is by
inherting the default MoinMoin styles and only changing those things you
want to adapt to your likings. This avoids the work involved in copying
new styles added during development to your own stylesheets. To do this,
we use the CSS `@import`  mechanism like this:

{{{
/*  #python wiki styles */
@import url("/users/jh/wiki/css/moinmoin.css");

h1,h2,h3,h4,h5 {
    background-color: #88CCFF; /* #EECC99; */
}
a:link {
    color: #0096CC;
}
a:visited {
    color: #0063a5;
}
}}}

In the second line, we import the default styles as distributed with
MoinMoin.
You have to change the URL to fit your system setup, likely to
"`/wiki/css/moinmoin.css`".

In the following lines, we change the background color of headlines and
the colors of hyperlinks. And that's it.





From mir at moinuser.m1.spieleck.de  Wed Dec 18 16:10:02 2002
From: mir at moinuser.m1.spieleck.de (Michael Radziej)
Date: Wed Dec 18 16:10:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] pgp?
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021218115008.00ad8bf8@pop3.zonnet.nl>
References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021218115008.00ad8bf8@pop3.zonnet.nl>
Message-ID: <20021219010915.A32569@spieleck.de>

On Wed, Dec 18, Robert Groenewegen wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> Some people use PGP (I guess) which is no fun if you receive the digest. I 
> may (but I don't know that for sure 8-) miss some excellent answers because 
> I am not able to decipher this kind of stuff while reading ... ;-)

Exercise, exercise :-)

No, it's not PGP. The mailer (Lotus Notes, always good for a surprise)
chose to encode the content in base64, which is perfectly legal, but
may be tough for the digester. This could be considered a mailman bug,
or even something in the Python libraries (though I like Python: the
MIME libraries are or were buggy indeed).

Michael Radziej





From d.budke at tu-bs.de  Thu Dec 19 08:13:05 2002
From: d.budke at tu-bs.de (Dirk Budke)
Date: Thu Dec 19 08:13:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] XML XSLT 4Suite Version
Message-ID: <1040312648.3e01e9484839e@webmail.tu-bs.de>

Hello,

I do not know which version of 4Suite i have to install.
Currently i am using MoinMoin v1.0 and 4Suite-0.12.0a3.

In the main configuration file of MoinMoin i switched XSLT-Support on,
but i get several errors using the XSLT-test page.

I read a message at the 4Suite forum that they changed the package structure to
Ft.Xml.Xslt and did not use PyXML any longer.

Therefore i adapted the according Python files to Ft.Xml.Xslt but 
i still get some errors:

class Ft.Xml.Xslt.Processor does not have any setStylesheetReader method...

Does anyone know how to solve this problem and which version of 4Suite works 
fine with Moin v1.0?

Best regards,
Dirk Budke
 









From robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl  Mon Dec 23 12:28:02 2002
From: robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl (Robert Groenewegen)
Date: Mon Dec 23 12:28:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] install from CVS
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021223164423.00a73628@localhost>

Dear all,

As happy as I am with MoinMoin, the new features as described in 
CHANGES.txt are very 'want-to-have/need-to-have'. I have installed Moin on 
my W2K/Apache machine with the (good!) installation docs. Unfortunaly I can 
not find any clue how to install from CVS (FYI the stuff is already on my 
machine because I know CVS). Does anyone knows of any documentation that 
can help me out?

Thanks, Robert

ps. Can I install the CVS version next to my current version or will I ran 
into trouble with my Python installation (site-packages)? 




From robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl  Tue Dec 24 00:25:04 2002
From: robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl (Robert Groenewegen)
Date: Tue Dec 24 00:25:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] install from CVS
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20021224091942.00a9f430@pop3.tiscali.nl>

Dear all,

As happy as I am with MoinMoin, the new features as described in 
CHANGES.txt are very 'want-to-have/need-to-have'. I have installed Moin on 
my W2K/Apache machine with the (good!) installation docs. Unfortunaly I can 
not find any clue how to install from CVS (FYI the stuff is already on my 
machine because I know CVS). Does anyone knows of any documentation that 
can help me out?

Thanks, Robert

ps. Can I install the CVS version next to my current version or will I ran 
into trouble with my Python installation (site-packages)? 




From bragiba at simi.is  Tue Dec 24 01:23:03 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Tue Dec 24 01:23:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] install from CVS
Message-ID: <OF417357E4.A8258383-ON00256C99.003340DB-00256C99.00336A7D@simi.is>

Hi Robert:

I wrote about CVS and Windows some time ago in 
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/MoinMoinWinCvs?action=highlight&value=cvs

It might be outdated.  Maybe you can see what I did there and take it 
further or modify it to keep it up to date.


Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
Bragi Baldursson
GPRS Kerfisverkfr??ingur/GPRS Systems Engineer
S?mi/Tel.:  +354 550 63 08    mailto:bragiba at siminn.is
Fax:  +354 550 63 39    www:http://www.siminn.is
Gsm:   +354 892 63 08

- S?minn au?veldar samskipti -




Robert Groenewegen <robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl>
Sent by: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
24.12.2002 08:20

 
        To:     moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
        cc: 
        Subject:        [Moin-user] install from CVS


Dear all,

As happy as I am with MoinMoin, the new features as described in 
CHANGES.txt are very 'want-to-have/need-to-have'. I have installed Moin on 

my W2K/Apache machine with the (good!) installation docs. Unfortunaly I 
can 
not find any clue how to install from CVS (FYI the stuff is already on my 
machine because I know CVS). Does anyone knows of any documentation that 
can help me out?

Thanks, Robert

ps. Can I install the CVS version next to my current version or will I ran 

into trouble with my Python installation (site-packages)? 



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From jh at web.de  Tue Dec 24 01:32:01 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Dec 24 01:32:01 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] install from CVS
In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021223164423.00a73628@localhost>
Message-ID: <E18QlPX-0003NT-00@smtp.web.de>

On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:44:49 +0100, Robert Groenewegen wrote:

>not find any clue how to install from CVS (FYI the stuff is already on my 
>machine because I know CVS). Does anyone knows of any documentation that 
>can help me out?

See Bragi's msg. Basically, the procedure is exactly teh same as with a 
distributed moin, starting with calling setup.py (you just skip the 
untar/unzip part).

>ps. Can I install the CVS version next to my current version or will I ran 
>into trouble with my Python installation (site-packages)? 

Use --root or --home with your "setup.py install" and change the moin.cgi 
file accordingly (i.e. extend PYTHONPATH to point to the location where you 
installed the cvs version).

Merry xmas to all, Juergen

Ciao, J?rgen





From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 30 20:23:02 2002
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Mon Dec 30 20:23:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] moin_config.py; show_section_numbers = 0
Message-ID: <20021231042216.65613.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>

I have run into this problem and have been unable to determine the
cause.  When I try to set the value:

show_section_numbers = 0

in moin_config.py, I receive an abend on line 180 of text_html.py.  I
am running a week-old CVS version.  The abend occurs on every page
which does not have a "#pragma section-numbers off" opening line, and
it doesn't matter whether I set the show_section_numbers value to 0 or
1.

First few lines of abend follows.

Roger Haase



TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'tuple' and 'int' Python
2.2.1
C:\PYTHON22\PYTHON.EXE 

A problem occurred while running a Python script. Here is the sequence
of function calls leading up to the error, with the most recent
(innermost) call first. The exception attributes are:
      __doc__ = 'Inappropriate argument type.' 
      __getitem__ = <bound method TypeError.__getitem__ of
<exceptions.TypeError instance at 0x00EE5B50>> 
      __init__ = <bound method TypeError.__init__ of
<exceptions.TypeError instance at 0x00EE5B50>> 
      __module__ = 'exceptions' 
      __str__ = <bound method TypeError.__str__ of
<exceptions.TypeError instance at 0x00EE5B50>> 
      args = ("unsupported operand type(s) for -: 'tuple' and 'int'",)

C:\home\roger\web\Moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\formatter\text_html.py
in heading(self=<MoinMoin.formatter.text_html.Formatter instance at
0x00EA0290>, depth=2, title='Help Contents', **kw={'icons': ''}) 
  178                 self.request._fmt_hd_counters.append(0)
  179             self.request._fmt_hd_counters[-1] =
self.request._fmt_hd_counters[-1] + 1
  180             number = '.'.join(map(str,
self.request._fmt_hd_counters[self._show_section_numbers-1:]))
 
       number = '', global join = undefined, global map = undefined,
global str = undefined, self = <MoinMoin.formatter.text_html.Formatter
instance at 0x00EA0290>, global request = undefined, global
_fmt_hd_counters = undefined, global _show_section_numbers = undefined
  181             if number: number += " "
  182 

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