From hartror at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 01:03:36 2015
From: hartror at gmail.com (Rory Hart)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:03:36 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] 7 August, 6pm, MPUG@Inspire9: iPython and slides,
 Selenium Page Adapter, from past import Python2/3 Compatibility
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsbdbbx7K1m0oiMHMMFNqrdNNc=ZZiQjvVc_5sRLqLhyXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbdbbx7K1m0oiMHMMFNqrdNNc=ZZiQjvVc_5sRLqLhyXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADf+qJc+ekH5dDbEPL8WOoRUiZRJ2oNKap5wKSXovMPtTL4Mow@mail.gmail.com>

*7 September

On 31 August 2015 at 22:17, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com> wrote:

> This coming Monday, 7 August, we'll hold our next meeting of the
> Melbourne Python Users Group!
>
> Time: 6PM
> Venue: Inspire 9: Level 1, 41 Stewart Street, Richmond. 50m from
> Richmond Train Station.
>
> Program:
>
> 15 minute talk:
>
> // Andrew Walker - Better ways to make slides from ipython notebooks with
> Nbconvert, jinja2, reveal.js, mistune and some frustration.
>
> 25 minute talks:
>
> // Tyson Clugg - Selenium Page Adapter:
> https://github.com/tysonclugg/selenium-page-adapter
>
> // Ed Schofield - Towards solving the Python 2/3 split with the past
> package: when backward compatibility is more important than forward
> compatibility, and how Python 3.x can run Python 2.x code automatically
>
> ::
>
> As usual, we'll order pizza, with a $10 contribution required. Drinks
> are BYO, but you're invited to bring a six-pack to share if you want!
>
> If you'd like to give the What's New in Python talk in a future
> session, you have a cool project you want to show, or you want to give
> a short presentation on a library you've been using lately, please
> just come forward during the meeting.
>
> The MPUG organisers
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>
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From javier at candeira.com  Thu Sep  3 03:54:05 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 11:54:05 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] 7 September, 6pm, MPUG@Inspire9: iPython and slides,
 Selenium Page Adapter, from past import Python2/3 Compatibility
In-Reply-To: <CADf+qJc+ekH5dDbEPL8WOoRUiZRJ2oNKap5wKSXovMPtTL4Mow@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbdbbx7K1m0oiMHMMFNqrdNNc=ZZiQjvVc_5sRLqLhyXAQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADf+qJc+ekH5dDbEPL8WOoRUiZRJ2oNKap5wKSXovMPtTL4Mow@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a777e8123cddeac055dc4a118ef03a09@candeira.com>

Rory reports that nobody seems to have a time machine, so:
>> This coming Monday, 7 August, we'll hold our next meeting of the

s/August/September/g

>> Melbourne Python Users Group!

See you there!

>> Time: 6PM
>> Venue: Inspire 9: Level 1, 41 Stewart Street, Richmond. 50m from
>> Richmond Train Station.
>> 
>> Program:
>> 
>> 15 minute talk:
>> 
>> // Andrew Walker - Better ways to make slides from ipython notebooks
>> with Nbconvert, jinja2, reveal.js, mistune and some frustration.
>> 
>> 25 minute talks:
>> 
>> //?Tyson Clugg - Selenium Page Adapter:
>> https://github.com/tysonclugg/selenium-page-adapter [1]
>> 
>> // Ed Schofield - Towards solving the Python 2/3 split with the past
>> package: when backward compatibility is more important than forward
>> compatibility, and how Python 3.x can run Python 2.x code
>> automatically
>> 
>> ::
>> 
>> As usual, we'll order pizza, with a $10 contribution required.
>> Drinks
>> are BYO, but you're invited to bring a six-pack to share if you
>> want!
>> 
>> If you'd like to give the What's New in Python talk in a future
>> session, you have a cool project you want to show, or you want to
>> give
>> a short presentation on a library you've been using lately, please
>> just come forward during the meeting.
>> 
>> The?MPUG?organisers
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug [2]
> 
> 
> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://github.com/tysonclugg/selenium-page-adapter
> [2] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

From javier at candeira.com  Thu Sep  3 04:09:11 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:09:11 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] =?utf-8?q?Which_night_of_the_week/month_to_meet?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3F_was=3A__September_meeting=3A_does_anyone_have_a_talk=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <940F55CA-789B-47E8-8993-6BC625FDD8B5@gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbc+fFrm8zSJ8uE0fLeVmGGKeiV=oJKNecVJt6bFyjBWNA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2015-08-24 18:13, David Nugent wrote:
>> On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:24 pm, javier at candeira.com wrote:
>> Also, November 2 is smack in the middle of the Melbourne Cup Weekend. 
>> Anyone for or against moving the MPUG session back one week?

> Please do, many folks take the long weekend and go away that week.

Right. A couple of people have pointed out to me that maybe we should 
try to move the day away from first Monday of the month, because we have 
the same problem every year. Also, Monday is not all that convenient for 
some people.

On the other hand there may be a problem with people having other 
nights. I know that I attend Clojure and MFUG meetings on Thursdays, and 
would like to attend more MelbJS and MelbDjango meetings on Wednesdays.

But other people may have other constraints, and definitely Inspire9 
will have theirs... although there are also other venues.

What does everybody think?

Javier

From matt at notevencode.com  Mon Sep 14 02:32:50 2015
From: matt at notevencode.com (Matthew Iversen)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:32:50 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Which night of the week/month to meet? was:
 September meeting: does anyone have a talk?
In-Reply-To: <ecce0fe726eafd184733f69a14897a50@candeira.com>
References: <CAKADsbc+fFrm8zSJ8uE0fLeVmGGKeiV=oJKNecVJt6bFyjBWNA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPjwCjukif=e1PKqB-g8+9xZ8m2yEycLdcPOx10gQWsLBDKELQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <64a7323e82a32354c76be00088acc71d@candeira.com>
 <CAPjwCjsRk3D36-bD1wVuyzKCXKko1_s_N4fjbzLmBrjyYv4ckg@mail.gmail.com>
 <6ad6e45dc2c7807c65a2fe34527dfa5f@candeira.com>
 <940F55CA-789B-47E8-8993-6BC625FDD8B5@gmail.com>
 <ecce0fe726eafd184733f69a14897a50@candeira.com>
Message-ID: <55F615B2.8060805@notevencode.com>

Do 2nd/3rd Mondays of the month conflict with any other dev meetups of note?

On 3/09/2015 12:09 PM, javier at candeira.com wrote:
> On 2015-08-24 18:13, David Nugent wrote:
>>> On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:24 pm, javier at candeira.com wrote:
>>> Also, November 2 is smack in the middle of the Melbourne Cup
>>> Weekend. Anyone for or against moving the MPUG session back one week?
>
>> Please do, many folks take the long weekend and go away that week.
>
> Right. A couple of people have pointed out to me that maybe we should
> try to move the day away from first Monday of the month, because we
> have the same problem every year. Also, Monday is not all that
> convenient for some people.
>
> On the other hand there may be a problem with people having other
> nights. I know that I attend Clojure and MFUG meetings on Thursdays,
> and would like to attend more MelbJS and MelbDjango meetings on
> Wednesdays.
>
> But other people may have other constraints, and definitely Inspire9
> will have theirs... although there are also other venues.
>
> What does everybody think?
>
> Javier
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug


-- 
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From russell.sim at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 02:48:52 2015
From: russell.sim at gmail.com (Russell Sim)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:48:52 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
Message-ID: <CAKk6aQvuHgnvpAmoJCjNCTCb2i=2bu+tSgUgqidmgXE1a4BSYw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

If the spot is still open I would like to do a talk about my WIP project to
convert the OpenStack documentation from DocBook+WADL to a stack that uses
Pecan+RST+Swagger+Markdown+AngularJS.

The presentation is called: Fair Slipper, pretty, maintainable API
documentation for OpenStack

It will be basically the same talk that I'm going to be doing at the
OpenStack conference and it would be great if i could present it to you all
first.

-- 
Cheers,
Russell Sim
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From cfp at ruxcon.org.au  Mon Sep 14 07:29:07 2015
From: cfp at ruxcon.org.au (cfp at ruxcon.org.au)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 05:29:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ruxcon 2015 Security Conference 24-25 October
Message-ID: <20150914052907.C04AA15804C@ruxcon.org.au>

Hi,

Ruxcon is Australia's premier technical computer security conference, held at the CQ Function Centre in Melbourne.

Ruxcon brings together the best and the brightest security talent in the Australia-Pacific region through live presentations, activities, and demonstrations. This year we also feature a fantastic line-up with several high-profile international speakers.

Ruxcon 2015 will be held on the weekend of the 24th of October to the 25th of October. Doors open at 8:00am and the first presentation commences at 9:00am.

There are a limited number of tickets available and they are going very quickly. Please register via the Ruxcon website to ensure that you don't miss out: https://ruxcon.org.au/register

For more information, please visit https://ruxcon.org.au/speakers

1.  Paul Vixie - DNS as a Defence Vector
2.  Colby Moore - Spread Spectrum Satcom Hacking
3.  Team Pangu - Design, Implementation, and Bypass of the Chain-Of-Trust Model of iOS
4.  Jason Geffner - VENOM
5.  Andy Davis - Broadcasting Your Attack: Security Testing DAB Radio In Cars
6.  Vanessa Teague - NSW iVote System: Security Failures & Flaws in a Live Online Election
7.  Lyon Yang - Advanced SOHO Router Exploitation
8.  Fatih Ozavci - VoIP Wars: Destroying Jar Jar Lync
9.  Chris Gates - Purple Teaming: One year after going from fulltime breaker to parttime fixer
10. Richard Johnson - High Performance Fuzzing
11. Jasiel Spelman & Matt Molinyawe - Abusing Adobe Reader??s JavaScript APIs
12. Joshua ???kernelsmith??? Smith - High-Def Fuzzing: Exploring Vulnerabilities in HDMI-CEC
13. Ilja Van Sprundel - Window Driver Attack Surface: Some New Insights
14. David Jorm - SDN Security
15. Matt McCormack - Why Attackers Toolsets Do What They Do
16. Elvis Collado - Home Network Devices - The Low Hanging Fruit Of 201[5-9]
17. Vitaly Nikolenko - Practical Intel SMEP Bypass Techniques on Linux
18. Peter Fillmore - Fruit Salad, Yummy Yummy: An Analysis Of Applepay
19. Raphael Rigo - A Peek Under The Blue Coat
20. Hacked To Death - Chris Rock
8 more presentations to be announced. 

Training running just before Ruxcon include:

* The Mobile Application Hacker's Handbook - Live Edition
* Advanced Infrastructure Hacking
* PentesterLab's Advanced Web Hacking

Events running over the weekend at Ruxcon include:

* Capture The Flag Tournament (Hacking wargame)
* Black Bag Competition (Break into hotel room, pick locks, crack safe, etc)
* Saturday and Sunday night Ruxcon Party (Free drinks with other hackers)
* Lockpick Workshop (Learn how to lockpick)
* Turbo Talks (6 minute mini presentations)
* Hardware Hacking Village
* Discussion panel (featuring Scott Ludlam)

Hope to see you there,

Regards,

Ruxcon 2015 Staff
https://ruxcon.org.au


From javier at candeira.com  Tue Sep 15 00:30:54 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 08:30:54 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ruxcon 2015 Security Conference 24-25 October
In-Reply-To: <20150914052907.C04AA15804C@ruxcon.org.au>
References: <20150914052907.C04AA15804C@ruxcon.org.au>
Message-ID: <b99d72cb8b8d59cca4e9e58aa3bef226@candeira.com>

Hi Ruxcon,

Thanks for sending the programme to your event. I don't see a Code of 
Conduct link on your front page. Do you have one? Do you plan to have 
one?

Cheers,

Javier

On 2015-09-14 15:29, cfp at ruxcon.org.au wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ruxcon is Australia's premier technical computer security conference,
> held at the CQ Function Centre in Melbourne.
> 
> Ruxcon brings together the best and the brightest security talent in
> the Australia-Pacific region through live presentations, activities,
> and demonstrations. This year we also feature a fantastic line-up with
> several high-profile international speakers.
> 
> Ruxcon 2015 will be held on the weekend of the 24th of October to the
> 25th of October. Doors open at 8:00am and the first presentation
> commences at 9:00am.
> 
> There are a limited number of tickets available and they are going
> very quickly. Please register via the Ruxcon website to ensure that
> you don't miss out: https://ruxcon.org.au/register
> 
> For more information, please visit https://ruxcon.org.au/speakers
> 
> 1.  Paul Vixie - DNS as a Defence Vector
> 2.  Colby Moore - Spread Spectrum Satcom Hacking
> 3.  Team Pangu - Design, Implementation, and Bypass of the
> Chain-Of-Trust Model of iOS
> 4.  Jason Geffner - VENOM
> 5.  Andy Davis - Broadcasting Your Attack: Security Testing DAB Radio 
> In Cars
> 6.  Vanessa Teague - NSW iVote System: Security Failures & Flaws in a
> Live Online Election
> 7.  Lyon Yang - Advanced SOHO Router Exploitation
> 8.  Fatih Ozavci - VoIP Wars: Destroying Jar Jar Lync
> 9.  Chris Gates - Purple Teaming: One year after going from fulltime
> breaker to parttime fixer
> 10. Richard Johnson - High Performance Fuzzing
> 11. Jasiel Spelman & Matt Molinyawe - Abusing Adobe Reader?s JavaScript 
> APIs
> 12. Joshua ?kernelsmith? Smith - High-Def Fuzzing: Exploring
> Vulnerabilities in HDMI-CEC
> 13. Ilja Van Sprundel - Window Driver Attack Surface: Some New Insights
> 14. David Jorm - SDN Security
> 15. Matt McCormack - Why Attackers Toolsets Do What They Do
> 16. Elvis Collado - Home Network Devices - The Low Hanging Fruit Of 
> 201[5-9]
> 17. Vitaly Nikolenko - Practical Intel SMEP Bypass Techniques on Linux
> 18. Peter Fillmore - Fruit Salad, Yummy Yummy: An Analysis Of Applepay
> 19. Raphael Rigo - A Peek Under The Blue Coat
> 20. Hacked To Death - Chris Rock
> 8 more presentations to be announced.
> 
> Training running just before Ruxcon include:
> 
> * The Mobile Application Hacker's Handbook - Live Edition
> * Advanced Infrastructure Hacking
> * PentesterLab's Advanced Web Hacking
> 
> Events running over the weekend at Ruxcon include:
> 
> * Capture The Flag Tournament (Hacking wargame)
> * Black Bag Competition (Break into hotel room, pick locks, crack safe, 
> etc)
> * Saturday and Sunday night Ruxcon Party (Free drinks with other 
> hackers)
> * Lockpick Workshop (Learn how to lockpick)
> * Turbo Talks (6 minute mini presentations)
> * Hardware Hacking Village
> * Discussion panel (featuring Scott Ludlam)
> 
> Hope to see you there,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ruxcon 2015 Staff
> https://ruxcon.org.au
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

From za at python.or.id  Tue Sep 15 02:54:18 2015
From: za at python.or.id (Zaki Akhmad)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:54:18 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] September meeting: does anyone have a talk?
In-Reply-To: <BEB62568-BB6A-46E0-B1ED-B85E2B15E35E@gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbc+fFrm8zSJ8uE0fLeVmGGKeiV=oJKNecVJt6bFyjBWNA@mail.gmail.com>
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2015-08-24 14:33 GMT+10:00 Andrew Walker <walker.ab at gmail.com>:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I've got a short talk 5-10 minute talk coming out of my frustrations putting slides together for pycon on producing better slides from ipython notebooks. Aiming to touch on nbconvert, jinja2, reveal.js and mistune.
>
> Andrew walker

Hi Andrew,

Sorry, I missed MPUG September meetup :|

Do you know how to display two images side-by-side with IPython
notebooks? I was struggling trying to compare two images by displaying
them side-by-side on my presentation slide with IPython notebooks but
still can't make it.

I've read your slides[1] but I can't find my problem there.

[1]https://bitbucket.org/walkera/notebook-to-reveal/raw/master/notebook-to-reveal.pdf

Thank you,

From javier at candeira.com  Tue Sep 15 03:07:11 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:07:11 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug]
 =?utf-8?q?Which_night_of_the_week/month_to_meet?=
 =?utf-8?q?=3F_was=3A_September_meeting=3A_does_anyone_have_a_talk=3F?=
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Message-ID: <10ab2b675bc7fe1b92b1d0bae7b1ef76@candeira.com>

I'll check. I've gotten mostly negative feedback from people, and what 
people have been positive, they've said that only moving to another 
Monday would work.

J

On 2015-09-14 10:32, Matthew Iversen wrote:
> Do 2nd/3rd Mondays of the month conflict with any other dev meetups of 
> note?
> 
> On 3/09/2015 12:09 PM, javier at candeira.com wrote:
>> On 2015-08-24 18:13, David Nugent wrote:
>>>> On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:24 pm, javier at candeira.com wrote:
>>>> Also, November 2 is smack in the middle of the Melbourne Cup
>>>> Weekend. Anyone for or against moving the MPUG session back one 
>>>> week?
>> 
>>> Please do, many folks take the long weekend and go away that week.
>> 
>> Right. A couple of people have pointed out to me that maybe we should
>> try to move the day away from first Monday of the month, because we
>> have the same problem every year. Also, Monday is not all that
>> convenient for some people.
>> 
>> On the other hand there may be a problem with people having other
>> nights. I know that I attend Clojure and MFUG meetings on Thursdays,
>> and would like to attend more MelbJS and MelbDjango meetings on
>> Wednesdays.
>> 
>> But other people may have other constraints, and definitely Inspire9
>> will have theirs... although there are also other venues.
>> 
>> What does everybody think?
>> 
>> Javier
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

From ben+python at benfinney.id.au  Tue Sep 15 03:57:06 2015
From: ben+python at benfinney.id.au (Ben Finney)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:57:06 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Which night of the week/month to meet? was:
	September meeting: does anyone have a talk?
References: <CAKADsbc+fFrm8zSJ8uE0fLeVmGGKeiV=oJKNecVJt6bFyjBWNA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <10ab2b675bc7fe1b92b1d0bae7b1ef76@candeira.com>
Message-ID: <85bnd45tsd.fsf@benfinney.id.au>

javier at candeira.com writes:

> I'll check. I've gotten mostly negative feedback from people, and what
> people have been positive, they've said that only moving to another
> Monday would work.

For my part, I don't think there's much problem having the November
meeting on the first Monday as we've been doing.

It does clash with the Cup Day long weekend; but having the first Monday
of the month means we're less likely in December to clash with people's
end-of-year break. So I think that balances out.

-- 
 \     ?Don't be misled by the enormous flow of money into bad defacto |
  `\    standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor adaptations of |
_o__)                                     incomplete ideas.? ?Alan Kay |
Ben Finney


From javier at candeira.com  Tue Sep 15 06:07:29 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:07:29 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug]
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 =?utf-8?q?=3F_was=3A_September_meeting=3A_does_anyone_have_a_talk=3F?=
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On 2015-09-15 11:57, Ben Finney wrote:
> javier at candeira.com writes:

> For my part, I don't think there's much problem having the November
> meeting on the first Monday as we've been doing.

Or we haven't been doing. Attendance on these days really falls. And 
it's not like we have people who attend rarely but say "hey, I'll go to 
MPUG for the Cup Weekend Monday, to make up for the people who aren't 
coming".

> It does clash with the Cup Day long weekend; but having the first 
> Monday
> of the month means we're less likely in December to clash with people's
> end-of-year break. So I think that balances out.

That bit is true. Need to discuss with Inspire 9, but it's also true 
that we're not married to the venue.

J

From matt at notevencode.com  Tue Sep 15 07:16:59 2015
From: matt at notevencode.com (Matthew Iversen)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:16:59 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAKk6aQvuHgnvpAmoJCjNCTCb2i=2bu+tSgUgqidmgXE1a4BSYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKk6aQvuHgnvpAmoJCjNCTCb2i=2bu+tSgUgqidmgXE1a4BSYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55F7A9CB.8020006@notevencode.com>

Brianna Laugher already asked for a 25-minute spot in September.

Javier also had a "What's New in Python" talk lined up on the moin Wiki.
I asked him in private yesterday if I could take it over to do a
specific "What's cool in Python 3.5!" talk, which he kindly accepted.
I'd also expect this would be ~1/2 hour although still in process of
writing it.

Assuming your talk goes for ~1/2 hour, everything could work if people
don't mind at least 1&1/2 hour of talks during meeting.

If we want only ~1 hour of talks, thereby making only 2 talks available,
then I'm hesistent to suggest a resolution given I'm one of the parties
with their hand in the jar, so to speak.

Cheers

On 14/09/2015 10:48 AM, Russell Sim wrote:
> Hey,
>
> If the spot is still open I would like to do a talk about my WIP
> project to convert the OpenStack documentation from DocBook+WADL to a
> stack that uses Pecan+RST+Swagger+Markdown+AngularJS.
>
> The presentation is called: Fair Slipper, pretty, maintainable API
> documentation for OpenStack
>
> It will be basically the same talk that I'm going to be doing at the
> OpenStack conference and it would be great if i could present it to
> you all first.
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
> Russell Sim
>
>
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From javier at candeira.com  Tue Sep 15 07:58:18 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:58:18 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
In-Reply-To: <55F7A9CB.8020006@notevencode.com>
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Thanks, Matthew and Russell. I can't edit the wiki right now. Can you 
please write yourselves in for October, punt me to December?

More below.

On 2015-09-15 15:16, Matthew Iversen wrote:
> Brianna Laugher already asked for a 25-minute spot in September.
> 
>  Javier also had a "What's New in Python" talk lined up on the moin
> Wiki. I asked him in private yesterday if I could take it over to do a
> specific "What's cool in Python 3.5!" talk, which he kindly accepted.
> I'd also expect this would be ~1/2 hour although still in process of
> writing it.
> 
>  Assuming your talk goes for ~1/2 hour, everything could work if
> people don't mind at least 1&1/2 hour of talks during meeting.

Yes, my own presentation is not filler, but my giving it is filler, so I 
don't mind being punted to December.

>  If we want only ~1 hour of talks, thereby making only 2 talks
> available, then I'm hesistent to suggest a resolution given I'm one of
> the parties with their hand in the jar, so to speak.

I'm happy with having three talks running 90 minutes. It's quite usual 
for us.

However, here's a question:

>> If the spot is still open I would like to do a talk about my WIP
>> project to convert the OpenStack documentation from DocBook+WADL to
>> a stack that uses Pecan+RST+Swagger+Markdown+AngularJS.

Please go for it, and thanks for playing at MPUG!

J

From javier at candeira.com  Tue Sep 15 08:04:40 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:04:40 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Cancelling November Meeting
Message-ID: <31fb830490810675bfbda34442aae562@candeira.com>

Hi all,

There is the thing wheresome  people have already announced they won't 
be attending MPUG for the first Monday of November. I myself won't even 
be in Melbourne.

So I'm calling off the November meeting, unless someone wants to commit 
to find speakers, organize pizza, and make sure that there will enough 
people to attend.

We already have two speakers for December (myself and Jeremy Kirkwood), 
please volunteer if you also want to speak then or going forward in 
2016.


Cheers,

Javier

From walker.ab at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 14:32:31 2015
From: walker.ab at gmail.com (Andrew Walker)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 22:32:31 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] rendering side-by-side images in the notebook
In-Reply-To: <CAGrappZpCs2KwQKKcq7a2uuPdaAaS+wdmcYpz9HNAYhbF=F37A@mail.gmail.com>
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Zaki,

This wasn?t one of the things I got a chance to speak about at MPUG in September, but it was interesting to get working. The basic trick is to use divs or tables, and to use a little bit of CSS trickery to get everything to render nicely. 

I?ve put together two supplementary notebooks that demonstrate a few different ways you can do this https://github.com/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/tree/master/multi-column-images <https://github.com/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/tree/master/multi-column-images>

Currently the github render engine isn?t correct enough to get the external CSS to render correctly, but the online version of nbviewer seems to do a better job.
 
http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/blob/master/multi-column-images/Multicolumn%20Images%20Part%201.ipynb <http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/blob/master/multi-column-images/Multicolumn%20Images%20Part%201.ipynb>
http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/blob/master/multi-column-images/Multicolumn%20Images%20Part%202.ipynb <http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/blob/master/multi-column-images/Multicolumn%20Images%20Part%202.ipynb> 

Andrew Walker


> On 15 Sep 2015, at 10:54 am, Zaki Akhmad <za at python.or.id> wrote:
> 
> 2015-08-24 14:33 GMT+10:00 Andrew Walker <walker.ab at gmail.com>:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I've got a short talk 5-10 minute talk coming out of my frustrations putting slides together for pycon on producing better slides from ipython notebooks. Aiming to touch on nbconvert, jinja2, reveal.js and mistune.
>> 
>> Andrew walker
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> Sorry, I missed MPUG September meetup :|
> 
> Do you know how to display two images side-by-side with IPython
> notebooks? I was struggling trying to compare two images by displaying
> them side-by-side on my presentation slide with IPython notebooks but
> still can't make it.
> 
> I've read your slides[1] but I can't find my problem there.
> 
> [1]https://bitbucket.org/walkera/notebook-to-reveal/raw/master/notebook-to-reveal.pdf
> 
> Thank you,
> _______________________________________________
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From za at python.or.id  Wed Sep 16 11:57:03 2015
From: za at python.or.id (Zaki Akhmad)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 19:57:03 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] rendering side-by-side images in the notebook
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References: <CAKADsbc+fFrm8zSJ8uE0fLeVmGGKeiV=oJKNecVJt6bFyjBWNA@mail.gmail.com>
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// inline reply

2015-09-15 22:32 GMT+10:00 Andrew Walker <walker.ab at gmail.com>:

> Zaki,
>
> This wasn?t one of the things I got a chance to speak about at MPUG in
> September, but it was interesting to get working. The basic trick is to use
> divs or tables, and to use a little bit of CSS trickery to get everything to
> render nicely.
>
> I ?ve put together two supplementary notebooks that demonstrate a few
> different ways you can do this
> https://github.com/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/tree/master/multi-column-images
>
> Currently the github render engine isn?t correct enough to get the external
> CSS to render correctly, but the online version of nbviewer seems to do a
> better job.
>
> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/blob/master/multi-column-images/Multicolumn%20Images%20Part%201.ipynb
> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/AndrewWalker/ipython-notebooks/blob/master/multi-column-images/Multicolumn%20Images%20Part%202.ipynb

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your response.

I've seen your ipython via nbviewer and it looks good!
I'll try to convert it as presentation and see how it goes.

And I'll try if I have 3x3 or more images.

-za,

From Ryan.Lynch at greythorn.com.au  Thu Sep 17 08:08:11 2015
From: Ryan.Lynch at greythorn.com.au (Ryan Lynch)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:08:11 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python contract roles
Message-ID: <D10014752420DA4897F3A2DAADE469F336FA8F7D74@DC03EXC103.recruit.corp>

Hi there PUG,

I?ll be upfront: I am a recruiter and (hopefully) not a bad one.

I have two Python contract roles to start within the next two weeks.

1 x Python/Django
1 x Python/back-end/APIs

Either mid level or Senior Developer level.

They are legitimate roles within an educational/research client of mine.

I?d be grateful to hear from anyone interest or referrals.

I can be contacted on 9604 4247 if interested.

Cheers,
Ryan



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From acalcium at yahoo.com.au  Thu Sep 17 08:55:38 2015
From: acalcium at yahoo.com.au (Chai Ang)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 06:55:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python contract roles (Ryan Lynch)
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Hello,Just of out curiosity, will Greythorn be contributing anythingto the MPUG group should any candidate be successful?
Should they be seeing as there are commercials involved.




 
   
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From Ryan.Lynch at greythorn.com.au  Fri Sep 18 01:56:57 2015
From: Ryan.Lynch at greythorn.com.au (Ryan Lynch)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 09:56:57 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] FW: melbourne-pug Digest, Vol 111, Issue 8
Message-ID: <D10014752420DA4897F3A2DAADE469F336FA8F7DBE@DC03EXC103.recruit.corp>

Hi Chai,

Thanks for your question. Greythorn normally provide a $250 referral voucher for a successful referral. I would be more than happy to offer this to the MPUG ? we could put beers on at the next MPUG meet-up or donate it to a charity of your choice, for example.

Feel free to contact me on 9604 4247 or ryan.lynch at greythorn.com<mailto:ryan.lynch at greythorn.com> should you wish to discuss further.

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Ryan




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From russell.sim at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 07:14:52 2015
From: russell.sim at gmail.com (Russell Sim)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:14:52 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
In-Reply-To: <080a11534891bc5bc51948695ad9bb96@candeira.com>
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On 15 September 2015 at 15:58, <javier at candeira.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Matthew and Russell. I can't edit the wiki right now. Can you
> please write yourselves in for October, punt me to December?


I've tried but I can't update the wiki, the navigation on the left
says Immutable
Page.

The Wiki must have flagged me as a trouble maker becasue I can't seem to
edit any pages.


-- 
Cheers,
Russell Sim
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From javier at candeira.com  Sun Sep 20 07:21:10 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (javier at candeira.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 15:21:10 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAKk6aQu_GvWyLunGQBGG6WwSwVbMLDdhVXWr=+Sm2-=qk7D-tQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKk6aQvuHgnvpAmoJCjNCTCb2i=2bu+tSgUgqidmgXE1a4BSYw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <7c0ea58528208af79549430f02f30d12@candeira.com>

No worries, Russel. I'll write you up and Matthew tonight, so I can make 
the announcement on Monday.

This means the October meeting will have Brianna, Matthew and you as 
speakers.

Regards,

Javer

On 2015-09-20 15:14, Russell Sim wrote:
> On 15 September 2015 at 15:58, <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Matthew and Russell. I can't edit the wiki right now. Can
>> you please write yourselves in for October, punt me to December?
> 
> I've tried but I can't update the wiki, the navigation on the left
> says Immutable Page.
> 
> The Wiki must have flagged me as a trouble maker becasue I can't seem
> to edit any pages.
> 
> --
> 
> Cheers,
> Russell Sim
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

From za at python.or.id  Sun Sep 20 13:56:57 2015
From: za at python.or.id (Zaki Akhmad)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 21:56:57 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAKk6aQu_GvWyLunGQBGG6WwSwVbMLDdhVXWr=+Sm2-=qk7D-tQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKk6aQvuHgnvpAmoJCjNCTCb2i=2bu+tSgUgqidmgXE1a4BSYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <55F7A9CB.8020006@notevencode.com>
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 <CAKk6aQu_GvWyLunGQBGG6WwSwVbMLDdhVXWr=+Sm2-=qk7D-tQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGrappYw8XSddb3ubdg59pHyic1joQjaKMAHD78gshjtTo4ZWg@mail.gmail.com>

2015-09-20 15:14 GMT+10:00 Russell Sim <russell.sim at gmail.com>:

> On 15 September 2015 at 15:58, <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Matthew and Russell. I can't edit the wiki right now. Can you
>> please write yourselves in for October, punt me to December?
>
>
> I've tried but I can't update the wiki, the navigation on the left says
> Immutable Page.
>
> The Wiki must have flagged me as a trouble maker becasue I can't seem to
> edit any pages.

Hi Russell,

Surely you're not flagged as trouble maker.

The wiki maintainer decided that new signed up members have to send
email to pydotorg-www at python.org, stating their wiki username and
intended edits. Then the wiki maintainer will add you to EditorsGroup.

This information is on the main page[1].

[1]https://wiki.python.org/moin/

From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 23:51:37 2015
From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 07:51:37 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAGrappYw8XSddb3ubdg59pHyic1joQjaKMAHD78gshjtTo4ZWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKk6aQvuHgnvpAmoJCjNCTCb2i=2bu+tSgUgqidmgXE1a4BSYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <55F7A9CB.8020006@notevencode.com>
 <080a11534891bc5bc51948695ad9bb96@candeira.com>
 <CAKk6aQu_GvWyLunGQBGG6WwSwVbMLDdhVXWr=+Sm2-=qk7D-tQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGrappYw8XSddb3ubdg59pHyic1joQjaKMAHD78gshjtTo4ZWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZA4Qsto+5F5o5Dv+f7n=Qk_3O42L1B-8k=vPizHzjaUbA@mail.gmail.com>

"The wiki maintainer decided" because of the horrendous amounts of spam
that the community couldn't keep up with.

On 20 September 2015 at 21:56, Zaki Akhmad <za at python.or.id> wrote:

> 2015-09-20 15:14 GMT+10:00 Russell Sim <russell.sim at gmail.com>:
>
> > On 15 September 2015 at 15:58, <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks, Matthew and Russell. I can't edit the wiki right now. Can you
> >> please write yourselves in for October, punt me to December?
> >
> >
> > I've tried but I can't update the wiki, the navigation on the left says
> > Immutable Page.
> >
> > The Wiki must have flagged me as a trouble maker becasue I can't seem to
> > edit any pages.
>
> Hi Russell,
>
> Surely you're not flagged as trouble maker.
>
> The wiki maintainer decided that new signed up members have to send
> email to pydotorg-www at python.org, stating their wiki username and
> intended edits. Then the wiki maintainer will add you to EditorsGroup.
>
> This information is on the main page[1].
>
> [1]https://wiki.python.org/moin/
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
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From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Tue Sep 22 11:51:53 2015
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 19:51:53 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unicode encode problem
Message-ID: <560124B9.5010304@dewhirst.com.au>

I'm using python 3.4 and having unicode difficulties which I suspect are 
due to Python 3.x being rigorous.

How do I encode particular chars?

I have a utility which swaps subscripted unicode chars for plain integer 
chars ... like this:

if char == "2":
     char = "\u2082"
elif char == "3":
     char = "\u2083"
elif char == "4":
     char = "\u2084"
elif char == "5":
     char = "\u2085"
elif char == "6":
     char = "\u2086"
elif char == "7":
     char = "\u2087"
elif char == "8":
     char = "\u2088"
elif char == "9":
     char = "\u2089"
elif char == "1":
     char = "\u2081"
elif char == "0":
     char = "\u2080"

Django is smart enough to protect me from my unicode ignorance because 
the error only occurs when I enable logging (which is plain Python) and 
a sample log message is:

Message: '(0.000) INSERT INTO "substance_synonym" ("substance_id", 
"name", "jurisdiction_code", "display", "section", "created", 
"modified", "modified_by_id") VALUES (1, \'C\u2083H\u2087O\u2088\', 
NULL, true, 3, \'2015-09-22 09:23:46.951070+00:00\', \'2015-09-22 
09:23:46.951070+00:00\', NULL) RETURNING "substance_synonym"."id"; 
args=(1, \'C\u2083H\u2087O\u2088\', None, True, 3, \'2015-09-22 
09:23:46.951070+00:00\', \'2015-09-22 09:23:46.951070+00:00\', None)'

--- Logging error ---
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "C:\Python34\Lib\logging\__init__.py", line 980, in emit
     stream.write(msg)
   File "C:\Users\mike\env\xxex3\lib\encodings\cp1252.py", line 19, in 
encode
     return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_table)[0]
UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2083' in 
position 293: character maps to <undefined>

Thanks for any hints

Mike

From john.larooy at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 21:38:59 2015
From: john.larooy at gmail.com (John La Rooy)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 05:38:59 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unicode encode problem
In-Reply-To: <560124B9.5010304@dewhirst.com.au>
References: <560124B9.5010304@dewhirst.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAB_yb6cirJCmdiLOxEhjTx5c0N0MXqRWmjocpyY=J4kPLvChqw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au>
wrote:

> File "C:\Users\mike\env\xxex3\lib\encodings\cp1252.py", line 19, in encode
>     return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_table)[0]
> UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2083' in
> position 293: character maps to <undefined>
>

This is telling you that there is no representation for '\u2083' in the
CP1252 encoding.
You'll need to tell the logging to open the file with a unicode codec (eg
utf-8).

Make sure the program you are viewing the log file with also knows it's
utf-8

Cheers,
John La Rooy
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From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Wed Sep 23 00:41:24 2015
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 08:41:24 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unicode encode problem
In-Reply-To: <CAB_yb6cirJCmdiLOxEhjTx5c0N0MXqRWmjocpyY=J4kPLvChqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560124B9.5010304@dewhirst.com.au>
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Message-ID: <5601D914.6030604@dewhirst.com.au>

Thanks John - no success yet, see below ...

On 23/09/2015 5:38 AM, John La Rooy wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au
> <mailto:miked at dewhirst.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     File "C:\Users\mike\env\xxex3\lib\encodings\cp1252.py", line 19, in
>     encode
>     ?  ?  return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_table)[0]
>     UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2083'
>     in position 293: character maps to <undefined>
>
>
> This is telling you that there is no representation for? '\u2083' in the
> CP1252 encoding.
> You'll need to tell the logging to open the file with a unicode codec
> (eg utf-8).

I'm using the dict logging config approach because that is what works 
for Django out of the box. Here is an excerpt from my config:

logfile = "my_logfile".encode(encoding='utf_8', errors='strict')

LOGGING = {
     'version': 1,
     'disable_existing_loggers': False,
     'handlers': {
         'file': {
             'level': 'DEBUG',
             'class': 'logging.FileHandler',
             'formatter': 'default',
             'filename': logfile,
         },

The errors appear on the console and not in the log file. Obviously.

Maybe I should try the Django list?

Any other ideas?

Thanks again

Mike

>
> Make sure the program you are viewing the log file with also knows it's
> utf-8
>
> Cheers,
> John La Rooy
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>


From russell.sim at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 00:53:56 2015
From: russell.sim at gmail.com (Russell Sim)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 08:53:56 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talk for the Monday, 5 October 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAHrZfZA4Qsto+5F5o5Dv+f7n=Qk_3O42L1B-8k=vPizHzjaUbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKk6aQvuHgnvpAmoJCjNCTCb2i=2bu+tSgUgqidmgXE1a4BSYw@mail.gmail.com>
 <55F7A9CB.8020006@notevencode.com>
 <080a11534891bc5bc51948695ad9bb96@candeira.com>
 <CAKk6aQu_GvWyLunGQBGG6WwSwVbMLDdhVXWr=+Sm2-=qk7D-tQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGrappYw8XSddb3ubdg59pHyic1joQjaKMAHD78gshjtTo4ZWg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHrZfZA4Qsto+5F5o5Dv+f7n=Qk_3O42L1B-8k=vPizHzjaUbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKk6aQtmywjGcLzu_n+_0+11yeSsT1Z0ZjgMXsY2MzEh6D38Zw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the details, I have sent through a request for edit
permissions.  I almost never actually use the python wiki any more but it's
useful to have an account that actually works.

I don't care enough to have an opinion on the why they are restricting edit
permissions.  It would be nice if there was say... a reasonable way to tell
the user what the process is to get edit permissions.  Hiding the edit
button is one way, but it's not exactly great.  I guess requiring people
actively hunt around trying to find how to edit, find in page, google
,email.

Perhaps they could hide the new account button?  That would reduce spam for
sure.


On 21 September 2015 at 07:51, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com> wrote:

> "The wiki maintainer decided" because of the horrendous amounts of spam
> that the community couldn't keep up with.
>
> On 20 September 2015 at 21:56, Zaki Akhmad <za at python.or.id> wrote:
>
>> 2015-09-20 15:14 GMT+10:00 Russell Sim <russell.sim at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > On 15 September 2015 at 15:58, <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks, Matthew and Russell. I can't edit the wiki right now. Can you
>> >> please write yourselves in for October, punt me to December?
>> >
>> >
>> > I've tried but I can't update the wiki, the navigation on the left says
>> > Immutable Page.
>> >
>> > The Wiki must have flagged me as a trouble maker becasue I can't seem to
>> > edit any pages.
>>
>> Hi Russell,
>>
>> Surely you're not flagged as trouble maker.
>>
>> The wiki maintainer decided that new signed up members have to send
>> email to pydotorg-www at python.org, stating their wiki username and
>> intended edits. Then the wiki maintainer will add you to EditorsGroup.
>>
>> This information is on the main page[1].
>>
>> [1]https://wiki.python.org/moin/
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>


-- 
Cheers,
Russell Sim
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From william.leslie.ttg at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 03:30:55 2015
From: william.leslie.ttg at gmail.com (William ML Leslie)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:30:55 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unicode encode problem
In-Reply-To: <5601D914.6030604@dewhirst.com.au>
References: <560124B9.5010304@dewhirst.com.au>
 <CAB_yb6cirJCmdiLOxEhjTx5c0N0MXqRWmjocpyY=J4kPLvChqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5601D914.6030604@dewhirst.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAHgd1hHP9qap3L_M0np=wcVDZW7s=56hH6zZBaR44F-epYfpPw@mail.gmail.com>

On 23 September 2015 at 08:41, Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au> wrote:
> Thanks John - no success yet, see below ...
>
> logfile = "my_logfile".encode(encoding='utf_8', errors='strict')

This line is the same as doing this:

  logfile = b"my_logfile"

Probably what you want is more like:

'handlers' : {
  'file' : {
    ...
    'encoding' : 'utf-8',

Guessing by this signature:

https://docs.python.org/3.4/library/logging.handlers.html#logging.FileHandler

-- 
William Leslie

Notice:
Likely much of this email is, by the nature of copyright, covered
under copyright law.  You absolutely MAY reproduce any part of it in
accordance with the copyright law of the nation you are reading this
in.  Any attempt to DENY YOU THOSE RIGHTS would be illegal without
prior contractual agreement.

From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Wed Sep 23 07:14:39 2015
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 15:14:39 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unicode encode problem
In-Reply-To: <CAHgd1hHP9qap3L_M0np=wcVDZW7s=56hH6zZBaR44F-epYfpPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560124B9.5010304@dewhirst.com.au>
 <CAB_yb6cirJCmdiLOxEhjTx5c0N0MXqRWmjocpyY=J4kPLvChqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5601D914.6030604@dewhirst.com.au>
 <CAHgd1hHP9qap3L_M0np=wcVDZW7s=56hH6zZBaR44F-epYfpPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5602353F.80900@dewhirst.com.au>

William

That worked. Thank you very hard. Much appreciated. Beer on the way :)

Cheers

Mike

On 23/09/2015 11:30 AM, William ML Leslie wrote:
> On 23 September 2015 at 08:41, Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au> wrote:
>> Thanks John - no success yet, see below ...
>>
>> logfile = "my_logfile".encode(encoding='utf_8', errors='strict')
>
> This line is the same as doing this:
>
>    logfile = b"my_logfile"
>
> Probably what you want is more like:
>
> 'handlers' : {
>    'file' : {
>      ...
>      'encoding' : 'utf-8',
>
> Guessing by this signature:
>
> https://docs.python.org/3.4/library/logging.handlers.html#logging.FileHandler
>


From paul at metrak.com  Wed Sep 23 12:15:11 2015
From: paul at metrak.com (paul sorenson)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:15:11 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unicode encode problem
In-Reply-To: <5601D914.6030604@dewhirst.com.au>
References: <560124B9.5010304@dewhirst.com.au>
 <CAB_yb6cirJCmdiLOxEhjTx5c0N0MXqRWmjocpyY=J4kPLvChqw@mail.gmail.com>
 <5601D914.6030604@dewhirst.com.au>
Message-ID: <56027BAF.2040001@metrak.com>

Hey Mike,

How are things hangin' these days?

I'm still at Telstra, still get to hack on some python too.

cheers

From levi.cameron at alliancesoftware.com.au  Mon Sep 28 03:19:21 2015
From: levi.cameron at alliancesoftware.com.au (Levi Cameron)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:19:21 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Australian PAAS Python Hosting?
Message-ID: <CAFmbndVx321teoPCizRR0ivHM8Zh5sVTvsPVzDycY6Vm39vuHw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,


Is anyone aware of any PAAS python (wsgi) web hosting that actually hosts
out of Australia? Extra points if you've actually used it and can attest to
it being reliable.


I'm specifically *not* looking for raw VM hosting -- that's easy enough to
find.


There seems to be no dead simple Heroku-like deployment for Australia at
the low/medium end (once you pass a certain size every PAAS seems to lose
out to dedicated VMs + managing your own servers -- but for small clients
that server management is pure overhead).



Cheers

Levi
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From javier at candeira.com  Tue Sep 29 15:12:32 2015
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 23:12:32 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] 5 October, 6pm, MPUG@Inspire9: Python 3.5, Pytest,
	Fair Slipper!!!
Message-ID: <CAKADsbfWasspWmC_+EUDdqAv1m8Ki1sn+a__cN7T8m1PLwC1tQ@mail.gmail.com>

This coming Monday, 5 October we'll hold our next meeting of the
Melbourne Python Users Group!

Time: 6PM
Venue: Inspire 9: Level 1, 41 Stewart Street, Richmond. 50m from
Richmond Train Station.

Program:

// Matthew Iversen - What's new in Python 3.5

// Brianna Laugher - Pytest Month Report.

// Russell Sim - Fair Slipper, pretty, maintainable API documentation for
OpenStack

::

As usual, we'll order pizza, with a $10 contribution required. Drinks
are BYO, but you're invited to bring a six-pack to share if you want!

If you'd like to give the What's New in Python talk in a future
session, you have a cool project you want to show, or you want to give
a short presentation on a library you've been using lately, please
just come forward during the meeting.

The MPUG organisers
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From benno at jeamland.net  Wed Sep 30 01:28:12 2015
From: benno at jeamland.net (Benno Rice)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2015 16:28:12 -0700
Subject: [melbourne-pug] EMC Isilon - Open House Recruiting Event
Message-ID: <5A981909-D02C-43CB-BBF9-5DD56DE53045@jeamland.net>

Hi MPUG,

I work for EMC Isilon heading up the OS and Networking teams. Isilon is expanding and looking to hire engineers and testers of all kinds who are interested in working on highly scalable, highly resilient data storage appliances. Engineering at Isilon covers a lot of areas including kernel development, file systems development, protocol stacks (NFS, CIFS, HDFS, HTTP and more), management interfaces, UI and all the attendant parts that make a seamless, performant and reliable product.

If this sounds interesting to you, we are hosting an open house on the evening of Thursday October 8 at the RACV City Club 501 Bourke Street Melbourne between 5PM and 9PM.

It?s not just my teams hiring, we also have open positions in file systems, protocols, platforms, user interface, and internal validation and automation. We?re hiring here in Melbourne and in Sydney, Seattle and Santa Clara.

There will be a tech talk starting at 6:30PM from senior engineers describing our technology and problems we aim to solve.
 
If you or anyone you know is interested in attending, please RSVP at this link:

https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/isilon-meet-up-melbourne-tickets-18749728944 <https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/isilon-meet-up-melbourne-tickets-18749728944>

Many thanks,
	Benno.
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