[melbourne-pug] melbourne-pug Digest, Vol 91, Issue 21
Noon Silk
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Fri Jan 31 07:56:44 CET 2014
> I've considered moinmoin 2.0 but it seems bit far ready from
> production use.
Any more detail here? Seems like moin2 might be a bit nicer ... Do you mind
sharing what problems you found?
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Kiran Busi <kiran.busi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >I'm just not sure how well it would support looking easily for particular
> bits of the pages
> You can search by titles or text. To look for bits of the page, you'd
> start with text search.
> So far I haven't had much use for the search as organization of my wiki
> seems more reliable way to find what i need.
> I've considered moinmoin 2.0 but it seems bit far ready from production
> use.
>
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 4:26 PM, <melbourne-pug-request at python.org> wrote:
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>> > +1 to MoinMoin.
>> > I use it myself as a personal wiki.
>> > From a hack-ability perspective, it is straightforward to hack and
>> create
>> your macros.
>> > Templates and Access Control Lists come out of the box.
>>
>> Cheers yeah, I also found it really easy to do that. I was concerned it
>> didn't have a way to query it's list of pages though; but indeed it does.
>> I've not tried it out, but it at least looks acceptable (i.e. not as bad
>> as
>> walking the filesystem to find them all). I'm just not sure how well it
>> would support looking easily for particular bits of the pages; but maybe I
>> can store it as metadata somehow; I don't know, but at least is looking a
>> bit promising.
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Kiran Busi <kiran.busi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > +1 to MoinMoin.
>> > I use it myself as a personal wiki.
>> > From a hack-ability perspective, it is straightforward to hack and
>> create
>> > your macros.
>> > Templates and Access Control Lists come out of the box.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >> 1. Re: python-based wiki with nice query-/template-ability?
>> >> (Noon Silk)
>> >> 2. Re: python-based wiki with nice query-/template-ability?
>> >> (Anthony Briggs)
>> >>
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>> >> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:53:20 +1100
>> >> From: Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Melbourne Python Users Group <melbourne-pug at python.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] python-based wiki with nice
>> >> query-/template-ability?
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>> >> > It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're
>> trying
>> >> to
>> >> > do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will let
>> >> you
>> >> > execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect
>> and
>> >> > pull bits of other pages in the same notebook.
>> >>
>> >> I want a Wiki - community editable, versionable, trivial setup, with
>> some
>> >> customisability to query the pages that the wiki has, and obtain bits
>> of
>> >> the pages - say I create a template page and it always contains
>> sections
>> >> "Description, Example, Json" and then I want to obtain each "Example"
>> from
>> >> each "page" that I have queried and do things with it; like perhaps
>> create
>> >> a graph.
>> >>
>> >> Something very similar to FindStat.org, really -
>> >> http://www.findstat.org/(which uses MoinMoin). Note that while this
>> >> looks like it makes a lot of
>> >> use of MoinMoin, infact almost all the work is done through MoinMoin
>> >> "macros", written in Python. I want to re-use as much of the wiki as
>> >> possible.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Anthony Briggs <
>> anthony.briggs at gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Trac is pretty painful to set up, from memory.
>> >> >
>> >> > It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're
>> trying
>> >> to
>> >> > do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will let
>> >> you
>> >> > execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect
>> and
>> >> pull
>> >> > bits of other pages in the same notebook.
>> >> >
>> >> > Failling that, it might be relatively easy to roll your own, either
>> with
>> >> > Django or some combination of Flask/Peewee/Jinja/similar.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anthony
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 30 January 2014 13:36, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> > There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
>> >> >> > and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ..., these are both websites. I'm looking for something to customise
>> >> >> myself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it
>> for
>> >> >> > the ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting
>> >> code.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I hadn't considered Trac for this, thanks for reminding me about it.
>> >> I'm
>> >> >> not sure it's right, though.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mike Dewhirst <
>> miked at dewhirst.com.au
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 30/01/2014 11:56am, Noon Silk wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> Hello,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> So I'm interested in a python-based wiki that I can write
>> >> arbitrary
>> >> >>>> python code in; perhaps with a view to:
>> >> >>>> 1) Creating specific templates,
>> >> >>>> 2) Arbitrarily querying the list of pages,
>> >> >>>> 3) Obtaining specific "bits" of pages (Perhaps I mark a
>> section in
>> >> >>>> the template as "json", then I'd want to grab the json from pages
>> A,
>> >> B,
>> >> >>>> X, Y
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Anyone know of something out there that does this?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
>> >> >>> and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it
>> for
>> >> the
>> >> >>> ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting code.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Mike
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> At the moment all
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I can think of is MoinMoin [1].
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> [1] http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinWiki
>> >> >>>> --
>> >> >>>> Noon Silk
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Fancy a quantum lunch?
>> https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy --
>> the
>> >> joy
>> >> >>>> of being this signature."
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fancy a quantum lunch? https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
>> >> >>
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>> >> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:11:37 +1100
>> >> From: Anthony Briggs <anthony.briggs at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Melbourne Python Users Group <melbourne-pug at python.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] python-based wiki with nice
>> >> query-/template-ability?
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>> >> I don't know of anything like that off of the top of my head, but from
>> a
>> >> quick search there are a few lightweight wikis around which might be
>> >> possible to hack on, eg. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/djiki and
>> >> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/valet. Perhaps they might get you further
>> >> than
>> >> MoinMoin?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 30 January 2014 14:53, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're
>> trying
>> >> > to
>> >> > > do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will
>> let
>> >> > you
>> >> > > execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect
>> and
>> >> > > pull bits of other pages in the same notebook.
>> >> >
>> >> > I want a Wiki - community editable, versionable, trivial setup, with
>> >> some
>> >> > customisability to query the pages that the wiki has, and obtain
>> bits of
>> >> > the pages - say I create a template page and it always contains
>> sections
>> >> > "Description, Example, Json" and then I want to obtain each "Example"
>> >> from
>> >> > each "page" that I have queried and do things with it; like perhaps
>> >> create
>> >> > a graph.
>> >> >
>> >> > Something very similar to FindStat.org, really -
>> >> http://www.findstat.org/(which uses MoinMoin). Note that while this
>> >> looks like it makes a lot of
>> >> > use of MoinMoin, infact almost all the work is done through MoinMoin
>> >> > "macros", written in Python. I want to re-use as much of the wiki as
>> >> > possible.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Anthony Briggs <
>> >> anthony.briggs at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Trac is pretty painful to set up, from memory.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It might help if you gave us some more detail about what you're
>> trying
>> >> to
>> >> >> do, rather than a list of features. eg. The iPython notebook will
>> let
>> >> you
>> >> >> execute arbitrary code, but I don't know whether it can introspect
>> and
>> >> pull
>> >> >> bits of other pages in the same notebook.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Failling that, it might be relatively easy to roll your own, either
>> >> with
>> >> >> Django or some combination of Flask/Peewee/Jinja/similar.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anthony
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 30 January 2014 13:36, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> > There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
>> >> >>> > and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ..., these are both websites. I'm looking for something to
>> customise
>> >> >>> myself.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it
>> for
>> >> >>> > the ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting
>> >> code.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I hadn't considered Trac for this, thanks for reminding me about
>> it.
>> >> I'm
>> >> >>> not sure it's right, though.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Mike Dewhirst <
>> >> miked at dewhirst.com.au>wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> On 30/01/2014 11:56am, Noon Silk wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Hello,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> So I'm interested in a python-based wiki that I can write
>> >> arbitrary
>> >> >>>>> python code in; perhaps with a view to:
>> >> >>>>> 1) Creating specific templates,
>> >> >>>>> 2) Arbitrarily querying the list of pages,
>> >> >>>>> 3) Obtaining specific "bits" of pages (Perhaps I mark a
>> section
>> >> in
>> >> >>>>> the template as "json", then I'd want to grab the json from
>> pages A,
>> >> >>>>> B, X, Y
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Anyone know of something out there that does this?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> There is Django snippets ... https://djangosnippets.org
>> >> >>>> and Pastebin ... http://pastebin.com/
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Also, have you looked at the Trac wiki? Most people would use it
>> for
>> >> >>>> the ticketing but it also has useful wiki with markup permitting
>> >> code.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Mike
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> At the moment all
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> I can think of is MoinMoin [1].
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> [1] http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinWiki
>> >> >>>>> --
>> >> >>>>> Noon Silk
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Fancy a quantum lunch?
>> https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy --
>> the
>> >> joy
>> >> >>>>> of being this signature."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
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>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Fancy a quantum lunch? https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy -- the
>> >> joy
>> >> >>> of being this signature."
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>> >> >
>> >> > Fancy a quantum lunch? https://sites.google.com/site/quantumlunch/
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>> >> > "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy -- the
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