From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 01:52:14 2011 From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:52:14 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Jobs jobs jobs Message-ID: Those who were at PyCon AU would've been pretty impressed by the number of jobs advertised on the whiteboards (we had to add one when the first filled up!). Just in the last 24 hours a couple of jobs have popped up on the python.org job board as well: http://www.python.org/community/jobs/index.html#buildingiq-sydney-australia sounds very interesting. And the one below it which is in Melbourne. Interesting times to be a Python developer! Richard From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 01:58:32 2011 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 09:58:32 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Jobs jobs jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Someone was talking to me about an interest in this area just last week. Damn memory, who was it?!?!? Definitely an interesting time to be in Python! :) On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > Those who were at PyCon AU would've been pretty impressed by the > number of jobs advertised on the whiteboards (we had to add one when > the first filled up!). Just in the last 24 hours a couple of jobs have > popped up on the python.org job board as well: > > http://www.python.org/community/jobs/index.html#buildingiq-sydney-australia > sounds very interesting. > > And the one below it which is in Melbourne. > > Interesting times to be a Python developer! > > > ? ?Richard > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" From javier at candeira.com Fri Sep 2 02:02:37 2011 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:02:37 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Jobs jobs jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future, what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So... Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it? On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > Someone was talking to me about an interest in this area just last > week. Damn memory, who was it?!?!? > > Definitely an interesting time to be in Python! :) Dammit, and I have just switched to Scala! Cheers, Javier > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Richard Jones wrote: >> Those who were at PyCon AU would've been pretty impressed by the >> number of jobs advertised on the whiteboards (we had to add one when >> the first filled up!). Just in the last 24 hours a couple of jobs have >> popped up on the python.org job board as well: >> >> http://www.python.org/community/jobs/index.html#buildingiq-sydney-australia >> sounds very interesting. >> >> And the one below it which is in Melbourne. >> >> Interesting times to be a Python developer! >> >> >> ? ?Richard >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From noonslists at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 03:55:14 2011 From: noonslists at gmail.com (Noon Silk) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:55:14 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Jobs jobs jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira wrote: > Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future, > what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So... > > Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it? I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead: A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? As to the job, qouting: > "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of complex software products in a technically challenging domain" Won't it be nice when this read as: > "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products in a technically challenging domain" :) -- Noon Silk Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy of being this signature." From javier at candeira.com Fri Sep 2 03:59:32 2011 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 11:59:32 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Jobs jobs jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Because it was told there would be no top-posting on the other side. Why did the chicken cross the road? Hugs, Javier On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Noon Silk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira wrote: >> Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future, >> what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So... >> >> Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it? > > I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it > recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead: > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > As to the job, ?qouting: > >> "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of complex software products in a technically challenging domain" > > Won't it be nice when this read as: > >> "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products in a technically challenging domain" > > :) > > -- > Noon Silk > > Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en > > "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy > of being this signature." > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 04:11:23 2011 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 12:11:23 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Jobs jobs jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For any two-message pair, bottom-posting rules. For any long-running thread, top-posting wins through convenience. When quoting is required, bottom-posting rules. When posting an entire fresh message, top-posting is substantially easier in most mail clients. For any group of people, there will always be diversity of practise... Cheers, -T On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Javier Candeira wrote: > Because it was told there would be no top-posting on the other side. > Why did the chicken cross the road? > > Hugs, > > Javier > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Noon Silk wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira wrote: >>> Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future, >>> what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So... >>> >>> Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it? >> >> I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it >> recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead: >> >> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. >> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >> >> As to the job, ?qouting: >> >>> "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of complex software products in a technically challenging domain" >> >> Won't it be nice when this read as: >> >>> "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products in a technically challenging domain" >> >> :) >> >> -- >> Noon Silk >> >> Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en >> >> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy >> of being this signature." >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" From jonmmorgan at gmail.com Fri Sep 2 17:26:58 2011 From: jonmmorgan at gmail.com (Jonathan Morgan) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 01:26:58 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Jobs jobs jobs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Noon Silk wrote: > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Javier Candeira > wrote: > > Sorry to say I can't attend MPUG meets for the foreseeable future, > > what with work and a small baby. I still wanted to say hi. So... > > > > Hi everyone, top-posting is not *always* evil, is it? > > I can't find the better version of this, (despite having read it > recently?!) so please accept this smaller offering instead: > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > > As to the job, qouting: > > > "Must be able to develop a deep, intuitive understanding of a suite of > complex software products in a technically challenging domain" > > Won't it be nice when this read as: > > > "Must be able to understand simple, beautiful, elegant software products > in a technically challenging domain" > Jumping into the debate philosophically: there are multiple reasons for complexity. The software might be complex because the domain is complex, because requirements are poorly organised and mapped to software, because different companies have different requirements, because different types of users are involved with dramatically different interaction requirements, or because the software design/architecture/code is complex. I think it's quite possible for software to get more complex developing the wrong software in the right way (at a micro level) than developing the right software with the right scope in the wrong way (though I'm sure I hate complex code at least as much as anyone here). I personally prefer working with software in a complex domain and trying to understand how the complexities of the software fit into the domain and vice versa. I find it gives much more satisfaction if I know what problems I am solving in the real world (which isn't always the same as the software problem you think you are solving). Jon > :) > > -- > Noon Silk > > Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en > > "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy > of being this signature." > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olivier.mansion at shiningpanda.com Sat Sep 3 04:37:52 2011 From: olivier.mansion at shiningpanda.com (Olivier Mansion) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:37:52 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Monday 5th September Talks Message-ID: Hi, Are you interested in a presentation on the following topic : "Testing on multiple versions of Python with Jenkins" ? If yes, I can prepare it for next Monday (05/09)... I promise, I won't do it in french. It should take about 7-8 minutes. Olivier From mydnite1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 3 06:22:26 2011 From: mydnite1 at gmail.com (James Alford) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:22:26 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Monday 5th September Talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm interested. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Olivier Mansion wrote: > Hi, > > Are you interested in a presentation on the following topic : "Testing > on multiple versions of Python with Jenkins" ? > > If yes, I can prepare it for next Monday (05/09)... I promise, I won't > do it in french. It should take about 7-8 minutes. > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- Regards James Alford email: ? ?mydnite1 at gmail.com mobile: ?0419 883646 skype: ? james-p-alford -- From pomke at pomke.com Sat Sep 3 13:06:21 2011 From: pomke at pomke.com (Pomke Nohkan) Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 21:06:21 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] python contract on seek Message-ID: If anyone has any info about this role (know who this is/work there) http://www.seek.com.au/Job/python-developer-contract/in/melbourne-cbd-inner-suburbs/20496019 could you please email me off list with some details? I'm not a huge fan of giving my resume to recruiting companies, they never stop bugging you. PS: if anyone is looking for a contractor or even casual development our website is http://pangur.com.au and we're looking for some work at the moment, check us out :) Thanks! -- Pomke http://pangur.com.au, http://pangurpad.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noonslists at gmail.com Mon Sep 5 08:24:58 2011 From: noonslists at gmail.com (Noon Silk) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:24:58 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: next Monday the 5th of September In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Noon Silk > [...] > I could maybe give a very short talk on some problems I've found with > python unit testing frameworks, to maybe save some people some > troubles (or learn where I've gone wrong :) Unfortunately, I am unable to attend tonight, so I will instead post what I planned to say (which in the end is very little) here: 0. I wanted a system that was: parallel, produced xunit, easily configurable/categorisable, and teardown/etc 1. I played with unittest, py.test, and nose 2. unittest is for structuring your tests in classes, with asserts and so on. + nose and py.test are runners; nose has a lot of plugins *but the multiprocess and xunit ones did not work together*. Also, the multiprocess one had problems in my specific case (alone). + py.test works in parallel, and produces xunit xml, however the configuration of it is not ideal (it's a little fancy, with a DI-style funcargs thing). In summary, py.test is the better option, but may take a bit of time in the setup; and in general - make sure all plugins work together! I didn't do this, and I paid the price. However, almost all the work I did to make my system work for nose wasn't wasted (nose and py.test pick up the same categorisation of tests, etc). -- Noon Silk Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy of being this signature." From mydnite1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 7 01:11:31 2011 From: mydnite1 at gmail.com (James Alford) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:11:31 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] mister english guy from the python meet Message-ID: Hi All After the meeting on Monday and towards the end of the evening at the pub I was having a chat at the pub with an English guy about working in the gaming industry. Sorry I forgot your name but can you please email me, I just wanted to chat further. -- Regards James Alford email: ? ?mydnite1 at gmail.com mobile: ?0419 883646 skype: ? james-p-alford -- From mydnite1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 03:44:37 2011 From: mydnite1 at gmail.com (James Alford) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 11:44:37 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [Jobs] Senior Python Developer - 3 Month Contract Message-ID: Hi All Transcity, the company I work for, is looking for a talent Python developer on a 3 month contract. If you are interested please have a look at the seek ad and apply through seek: http://www.seek.com.au/Job/senior-python-developer/in/melbourne-melbourne/20617376 Any suggestions are welcome, just email me directly. Thanks. -- Regards James Alford -- From noonslists at gmail.com Thu Sep 8 08:19:41 2011 From: noonslists at gmail.com (Noon Silk) Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 16:19:41 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [jobs] Another python job, at Biarri! Message-ID: Hello, Seems to be the time to be posting jobs! There is a python developer job available where I work; take a look below. Please contact Joe for details/interviews/etc. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Biarri (http://www.biarri.com) is a commercial mathematics company that provides optimisation tools and custom quantitative models to business. We believe in the power of elegant design. We like to use the right tools for the job and get our products built quickly and simply. We are growing and we need someone to join the team who can help us build our software. Specifically we are looking for a software developer to join our Melbourne team (based in Prahran) and help develop our web applications. We need somebody who is a great developer, organised and happy to work in a diverse team. Our requirements for the role are: - You get things done, you make decisions independently and iterate rapidly - Keen to learn about customers and solve their problems - Create simple and elegant solutions to complex problems - Deep knowledge of Python, Javascript and Linux - Some experience with Mecurial/Git and SQL would also be desirable. If you are interested in the role please contact me and we can arrange an initial phone call and take it from there. Cheers, Joe Forbes joe.forbes at biarri.com 0408 015 090 _______________________________________________________________________________________________ -- Noon Silk Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy of being this signature." From lev at levlafayette.com Tue Sep 13 14:43:42 2011 From: lev at levlafayette.com (lev at levlafayette.com) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:43:42 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Software Freedom Day: Free as in lunch with open sauce Message-ID: <61e49e010e88c115b8bae9f768d1a502.squirrel@webmail.levlafayette.com> Software Freedom Day, Saturday September 17. 2011 The Hub, 80 Harbour Esplanade, Docklands. 12 noon: Free as in lunch with open sauce Come join us for a BBQ (meat and vegetarian sausages, onion, sauce and bread provided - byo drinks and salad) to celebrate Software Freedom Day. 1.30 Keynote - Ben Sturmfels, Why Free Software Matters 2.30 Workshops - Planning for Freedom in the Coming Year a. Tony Forster, International Development with Free Software. b. Alex Garber, Introducing Newcomers to Free Software c. Alex Fraser, Code Sharing: A Programmer's Perspective d. Daniel Jitnah, Free Software and Accessibility e. Kathy Reid, Building Free and Open Source Communities f. Lev Lafayette, Teaching Free and Open Source Computing Drupal Melbourne will be running a stall and opportunity to discuss using that free and open source content-management framework. Plus we'll have a range of Linux distributions and various free software available to interested parties. From lev at levlafayette.com Tue Sep 13 14:34:15 2011 From: lev at levlafayette.com (lev at levlafayette.com) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:34:15 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Software Freedom Day: Free as in lunch with open sauce Message-ID: Software Freedom Day, Saturday September 17. 2011 The Hub, 80 Harbour Esplanade, Docklands. 12 noon: Free as in lunch with open sauce Come join us for a BBQ (meat and vegetarian sausages, onion, sauce and bread provided - byo drinks and salad) to celebrate Software Freedom Day. 1.30 Keynote - Ben Sturmfels, Why Free Software Matters 2.30 Workshops - Planning for Freedom in the Coming Year a. Tony Forster, International Development with Free Software. b. Alex Garber, Introducing Newcomers to Free Software c. Alex Fraser, Code Sharing: A Programmer's Perspective d. Daniel Jitnah, Free Software and Accessibility e. Kathy Reid, Building Free and Open Source Communities f. Lev Lafayette, Teaching Free and Open Source Computing Drupal Melbourne will be running a stall and opportunity to discuss using that free and open source content-management framework. Plus we'll have a range of Linux distributions and various free software available to interested parties. From mydnite1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 03:51:35 2011 From: mydnite1 at gmail.com (James Alford) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:51:35 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [Jobs] Senior Python Developer - 3 Month Contract In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All We have reconsidered the required experience for the contractor ad on Seek after a bit of advice. It now is 3+ years experience in python from 5 years, the Seek ad should be reflect that shortly. Thanks. On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:44 AM, James Alford wrote: > Hi All > > Transcity, the company I work for, is looking for a talent Python > developer on a 3 month contract. ?If you are interested please have a > look at the seek ad and apply through seek: > > http://www.seek.com.au/Job/senior-python-developer/in/melbourne-melbourne/20617376 > > Any suggestions are welcome, just email me directly. > > Thanks. > > -- > Regards > > James Alford > > -- > -- Regards James Alford email: ? ?mydnite1 at gmail.com mobile: ?0419 883646 skype: ? james-p-alford -- From afort at choqolat.org Thu Sep 15 04:20:12 2011 From: afort at choqolat.org (Andrew Fort) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:20:12 -0700 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [Jobs] Senior Python Developer - 3 Month Contract In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:51 PM, James Alford wrote: > Hi All > > We have reconsidered the required experience for the contractor ad on > Seek after a bit of advice. ?It now is 3+ years experience in python > from 5 years, the Seek ad should be reflect that shortly. Not to cause any offence, but I have a question. Why ask for "experience" length at all? It's a limited field (of developers), and you're reviewing their resumes and interviewing potentials anyway. Okay, so getting 1000 resumes is bad and you want some source limitation, but it's always hard to find talent so - when I'm looking for work - always ignore this number anyway and show my stuff. Just my 2c. Cheers, Andrew From mydnite1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 15 04:36:15 2011 From: mydnite1 at gmail.com (James Alford) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:36:15 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [Jobs] Senior Python Developer - 3 Month Contract In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Andrew That is quite true but I think that shows your confidence in your abilities which is also a great selling point. Are you available at the moment? None taken by the way, the experience is a hurdle, nothing more, as you say. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Andrew Fort wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:51 PM, James Alford wrote: >> Hi All >> >> We have reconsidered the required experience for the contractor ad on >> Seek after a bit of advice. ?It now is 3+ years experience in python >> from 5 years, the Seek ad should be reflect that shortly. > > Not to cause any offence, but I have a question. ?Why ask for > "experience" length at all? ?It's a limited field (of developers), and > you're reviewing their resumes and interviewing potentials anyway. > Okay, so getting 1000 resumes is bad and you want some source > limitation, but it's always hard to find talent so - when I'm looking > for work - always ignore this number anyway and show my stuff. > > Just my 2c. > > Cheers, > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- Regards James Alford email: ? ?mydnite1 at gmail.com mobile: ?0419 883646 skype: ? james-p-alford -- From pomke at pangur.com.au Mon Sep 26 10:45:59 2011 From: pomke at pangur.com.au (Pomke Nohkan) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:45:59 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Looking for work Message-ID: Hello everyone, I'm fairly urgently looking for some contracting work in the python/web space, I would also consider full time depending on the location (I'm in the eastern suburbs). My resume is attached and you can read about what I do at http://www.pangur.com.au. Thank you kindly! -- Pomke Coordinator of Dreams and Realities email: pomke -at- pangur.com.au web: http://www.pangur.com.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Resume-26092011.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 153730 bytes Desc: not available URL: From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 02:15:08 2011 From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:15:08 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: Monday the 3rd of October Message-ID: Hi all, The next meeting is next Monday! Tennessee is apparently going to tell us about "using Python and AI to do poorly in the Rock Paper Scissors competition" :-) I'd like to trial a short talk about PyPI, availability and mirroring. We'll see how it goes. Is there anyone on the list who knows about buildout (who might also come along to the meet)? As always, feel free to pipe up and talk on whatever subject you find interesting! As usual the details, including talk signup, are at http://j.mp/mpug Richard From pomke at pangur.com.au Tue Sep 27 02:36:21 2011 From: pomke at pangur.com.au (Pomke Nohkan) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:36:21 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: Monday the 3rd of October In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hiya Richard, I've done a fair bit with buildbot in the past, what are you trying to do with it? - Pomke On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > The next meeting is next Monday! > > Tennessee is apparently going to tell us about "using Python and AI to > do poorly in the Rock Paper Scissors competition" :-) > > I'd like to trial a short talk about PyPI, availability and mirroring. > We'll see how it goes. 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URL: From william.leslie.ttg at gmail.com Tue Sep 27 02:59:43 2011 From: william.leslie.ttg at gmail.com (William ML Leslie) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:59:43 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: Monday the 3rd of October In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 September 2011 10:36, Pomke Nohkan wrote: > Hiya Richard, > I've done a fair bit with buildbot in the past, what are you trying to do > with it? > - Pomke buildout != buildbot. zc.buildout is a build tool (similar to scons or buildr). -- William Leslie From brian.curtin at gmail.com Wed Sep 28 00:54:55 2011 From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:54:55 -0500 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon 2012 Proposals Due October 12 Message-ID: The deadline for PyCon 2012 tutorial, talk, and poster proposals is under 15 days away, so be sure to get your submissions in by October 12, 2011. Whether you?re a first-timer or an experienced veteran, PyCon is depends on you, the community, coming together to build the best conference schedule possible. Our call for proposals (http://us.pycon.org/2012/cfp/) lays out the details it takes to be included in the lineup for the conference in Santa Clara, CA on March 7-15, 2012. If you?re unsure of what to write about, our recent survey yielded a large list of potential talk topics (http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/need-talk-ideas.html), and plenty of ideas for tutorials (INSERT TUTORIAL POST). We?ve also come up with general tips on proposal writing at http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/08/writing-good-proposal.html to ensure everyone has the most complete proposal when it comes time for review. As always, the program committee wants to put together an incredible conference, so they?ll be working with submitters to fine tune proposal details and help you produce the best submissions. We?ve had plenty of great news to share since we first announced the call for proposals. Paul Graham of Y Combinator was recently announced as a keynote speaker (http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/announcing-first-pycon-2012-keynote.html), making his return after a 2003 keynote. David Beazley, famous for his mind-blowing talks on CPython?s Global Interpreter Lock, was added to the plenary talk series (http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/announcing-first-pycon-2012-plenary.html). Sponsors can now list their job openings on the ?Job Fair? section of the PyCon site (http://pycon.blogspot.com/2011/09/announcing-pycon-2012-fair-page-sponsor.html). We?re hard at work to bring you the best conference yet, so stay tuned to PyCon news at http://pycon.blogspot.com/ and on Twitter at https://twitter.com/#!/pycon. We recently eclipsed last year?s sponsorship count of 40 and are currently at a record 52 organizations supporting PyCon. If you or your organization are interested in sponsoring PyCon, we?d love to hear from you, so check out our sponsorship page (http://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/). A quick thanks to all of our awesome PyCon 2012 Sponsors: - Diamond Level: Google and Dropbox. - Platinum Level: New Relic, SurveyMonkey, Microsoft, Eventbrite, Nasuni and Gondor.io - Gold Level: Walt Disney Animation Studios, CCP Games, Linode, Enthought, Canonical, Dotcloud, Loggly, Revsys, ZeOmega, Bitly, ActiveState, JetBrains, Caktus, Disqus, Spotify, Snoball, Evite, and PlaidCloud - Silver Level: Imaginary Landscape, WiserTogether, Net-ng, Olark, AG Interactive, Bitbucket, Open Bastion, 10Gen, gocept, Lex Machina, fwix, github, toast driven, Aarki, Threadless, Cox Media, myYearBook, Accense Technology, Wingware, FreshBooks, and BigDoor - Lanyard: Dreamhost - Sprints: Reddit - FLOSS: OSU/OSL, OpenHatch The PyCon Organizers - http://us.pycon.org/2012 Jesse Noller - Chairman - jnoller at python.org Brian Curtin - Publicity Coordinator - brian at python.org From javier at candeira.com Thu Sep 29 04:13:09 2011 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:13:09 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: Monday the 3rd of October In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Unfortunately I won't be able to attend, but I wanted to share this with the group: A Mandelbrot renderer written in obfuscated Python. Proof that you can write C in any language (even Python), but also a tour de force, considering that its author manages to arbitrarily arrange the code in a pretty picture of a Mandelbrot set. This kind of code-as-ascii-art is common practice in languages like Perl, but rarer and far from trivial to accomplish in a language with meaningful indentation like Python. Enjoy! http://preshing.com/20110926/high-resolution-mandelbrot-in-obfuscated-python J From rasjidw at openminddev.net Thu Sep 29 08:33:40 2011 From: rasjidw at openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 16:33:40 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: Monday the 3rd of October In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E841144.3030503@openminddev.net> On 29/09/11 12:13, Javier Candeira wrote: > http://preshing.com/20110926/high-resolution-mandelbrot-in-obfuscated-python > Amazing! I wish I had that much free time. :-) Cheers, Rasjid. From javier at candeira.com Thu Sep 29 12:01:51 2011 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:01:51 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: Monday the 3rd of October In-Reply-To: <4E841144.3030503@openminddev.net> References: <4E841144.3030503@openminddev.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > On 29/09/11 12:13, Javier Candeira wrote: >> http://preshing.com/20110926/high-resolution-mandelbrot-in-obfuscated-python >> > Amazing! ?I wish I had that much free time. ?:-) I envy your skill then. I see that, and I think I probably have enough free time, I just wouldn't be able of thinking up so many interesting solutions to the problem at hand. J From rasjidw at openminddev.net Fri Sep 30 01:38:28 2011 From: rasjidw at openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:38:28 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: Monday the 3rd of October In-Reply-To: References: <4E841144.3030503@openminddev.net> Message-ID: <4E850174.9000607@openminddev.net> On 29/09/11 20:01, Javier Candeira wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: >> On 29/09/11 12:13, Javier Candeira wrote: >>> http://preshing.com/20110926/high-resolution-mandelbrot-in-obfuscated-python >>> >> Amazing! I wish I had that much free time. :-) > I envy your skill then. I see that, and I think I probably have enough > free time, I just wouldn't be able of thinking up so many interesting > solutions to the problem at hand. > Hmm... I wouldn't read too much into my comment, other than saying that I think some people clearly have way too much free time on their hands. Although I could imagine playing around with mandelbrot sets and the like if I had lots of free time, I have no interest in writing obfuscated python, or indeed obfuscated code in any language. Things like Perl golf just do no interest me as a sport. Cheers, Rasjid. From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Fri Sep 30 05:12:58 2011 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:12:58 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [Jobs] Python vacancy on my team Message-ID: `Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research. `__ (Melbourne, VIC, Australia) ============================================================================================================= **Forecast Systems Programmer**: The Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research (CAWCR) is seeking a talented software developer to work on the NexGen Forecast and Warning System. The focus of the work is the development, maintenance, testing and documentation of forecast process tools which are written in Python. These tools are used by the Bureau of Meteorology?s operational forecasters to edit and manipulate a database of gridded digital weather forecasts. Please visit http://www.apsjobs.gov.au/SearchedNoticesView.aspx?Notices=10545537:1 to obtain the full information for this position. **Requirements** * Must be an Australian citizen * Software Engineering * Algorithm Development * Strategic Thinking and Problem Solving * Communication Skills and Teamwork * Experience in a Scientific Environment * Social Justice **About the company** The Centre for Australian Weather and Climate Research is a partnership between Australia's leading atmospheric and oceanographic research agencies: the Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO. The Centre was established by the Bureau of Meteorology and CSIRO in 2007 to ensure that Australia remains a world leader in climate, weather and oceans research so that it can meet the severe weather and climatic challenges that continue to confront the nation **What Python is used for** Python is used for a substantial part of this application, which also includes C++ code. The applicant can expect to be working in Python, on scientific algorithms, in a team environment. **Contact Info:** * **Contact**: Recruitment * **E-mail contact**: jobs at bom.gov.au * **Other Contact Info**: t.leeuwenburg at bom.gov.au * **Web**: http://www.apsjobs.gov.au/SearchedNoticesView.aspx?Notices=10545537:1 * **No telecommuting** -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think"