From ryan at rfk.id.au  Mon Aug  1 01:57:20 2011
From: ryan at rfk.id.au (Ryan Kelly)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:57:20 -0000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Code War at PyCon Au 2011
Message-ID: <20110731235720.2783.33433@pyglet.org>



A huge hit at PyCon-Au last year, Code War is back!

Eight teams, onstage knockout rounds of short programming bouts, loud  
crowd...mildly impressive prizes. Any language allowed, no holds  
bared. Think of it like cage fighting for coders.

Originally based on an idea from the book PeopleWare, CodeWar has been  
run in conjunction with the Sydney WebDU conference since 2008 with  
great success. To help share the mayhem we're proud to bring CodeWar  
to PyCon-au 2011, with experienced CodeWar compare Robin Hilliard from  
RocketBoots on the microphone to keep a wry eye on proceedings.
All comers welcome -- no conference ticket required. Come to compete  
or just come to watch. RSVP now!

If you want to enter a team read on...


Tourney Rules
-------------

The competition will consist of three rounds:
  * 8 teams of 3-5 people
  * 1 laptop per team connected to projector on stage.
  * Rounds are first-past-the-post simple programming challenges
  * Any programming language you want.

We guarantee this won't be mind twisting problems for algorithm heads.  
It will help to have a team with a mix of skills, a clever and/or  
intimidating team name and vocal cheer squad.

For example: "Here is the complete text of pride and prejudice on this  
usb key. Be the first to print out the 7th and 25th sentances that  
contain both 'Elizabeth'and 'Darcy'". See a list of questions from  
recent code war events.

If you're registering a team, the team leader should get 1 team leader  
ticket and the team members a RSVP ticket. Don't forget to bring your  
team and single laptop on the day.

If all the team slots are gone register your standby team in case of a  
no-show.

    http://codewarpyconau.eventbrite.com/



Thanks to Dylan Jay of PretaWeb for organising CodeWar this year.



From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 06:47:55 2011
From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:47:55 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Meeting tonight
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZCtUyvjBRPTXt2jWi7eQXz15afK4mgLckzT9G4rAwV7PA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I've somehow managed to forget my laptop's VGA adapter, woo! If you're
coming along tonight and have a Mac mini displayport to VGA adapter,
please let me know otherwise I'll have to figure something else out...


Thanks,

     Richard

From joshbode at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 08:00:54 2011
From: joshbode at gmail.com (Josh Bode)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:00:54 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <CAHrZfZCtUyvjBRPTXt2jWi7eQXz15afK4mgLckzT9G4rAwV7PA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrZfZCtUyvjBRPTXt2jWi7eQXz15afK4mgLckzT9G4rAwV7PA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAECWYJ6SU2vKxZfKHFO1AOJE-529oG29q3WCE6TzBi4m1u+N1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Richard,

I should be able to find one in our meeting room once it clears out. I'll
let you know "real soon" :)

Cheers,
Josh

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've somehow managed to forget my laptop's VGA adapter, woo! If you're
> coming along tonight and have a Mac mini displayport to VGA adapter,
> please let me know otherwise I'll have to figure something else out...
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>     Richard
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
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From joshbode at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 08:18:42 2011
From: joshbode at gmail.com (Josh Bode)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:18:42 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <CAECWYJ6SU2vKxZfKHFO1AOJE-529oG29q3WCE6TzBi4m1u+N1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrZfZCtUyvjBRPTXt2jWi7eQXz15afK4mgLckzT9G4rAwV7PA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAECWYJ6SU2vKxZfKHFO1AOJE-529oG29q3WCE6TzBi4m1u+N1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAECWYJ4mq_pcYVwH1xZbxARR9x3Dy7qHyfraVdU8Jny4kFv2rA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, looks like it is mini-DVI to DVI - wrong on both ends.

Cheers,
Josh

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Josh Bode <joshbode at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Richard,
>
> I should be able to find one in our meeting room once it clears out. I'll
> let you know "real soon" :)
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've somehow managed to forget my laptop's VGA adapter, woo! If you're
>> coming along tonight and have a Mac mini displayport to VGA adapter,
>> please let me know otherwise I'll have to figure something else out...
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>     Richard
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>
>
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From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 08:30:09 2011
From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:30:09 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Meeting tonight
In-Reply-To: <CAECWYJ4mq_pcYVwH1xZbxARR9x3Dy7qHyfraVdU8Jny4kFv2rA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrZfZCtUyvjBRPTXt2jWi7eQXz15afK4mgLckzT9G4rAwV7PA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAECWYJ6SU2vKxZfKHFO1AOJE-529oG29q3WCE6TzBi4m1u+N1Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAECWYJ4mq_pcYVwH1xZbxARR9x3Dy7qHyfraVdU8Jny4kFv2rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZBTCPFy9T17fjxcc_p-+S8-Mh=BpfqzW7Lw-p4nM7pJVg@mail.gmail.com>

thanks anyway

On 1 August 2011 16:18, Josh Bode <joshbode at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, looks like it is mini-DVI to DVI - wrong on both ends.
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Josh Bode <joshbode at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Richard,
>>
>> I should be able to find one in our meeting room once it clears out. I'll
>> let you know "real soon" :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Josh
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've somehow managed to forget my laptop's VGA adapter, woo! If you're
>>> coming along tonight and have a Mac mini displayport to VGA adapter,
>>> please let me know otherwise I'll have to figure something else out...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> ? ? Richard
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>

From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 01:36:19 2011
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 09:36:19 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
Message-ID: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
the team as well :)

Cheers,
-T

From anthony.briggs at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 02:28:03 2011
From: anthony.briggs at gmail.com (Anthony Briggs)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:28:03 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO4-389tK1n+m1yucmX0czKEdLkZVEkr3Vph7kPBek6kOMVVkQ@mail.gmail.com>

Sadly, I'm working on Friday, so I suspect that I'll be in Sydney too
late to participate (I get into the airport at 9pm).

btw, the War and Peace example should be doable in one line with sed
and grep - no coding required! ;)

Ant

On 2 August 2011 09:36, Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
> team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
> the team as well :)
>
> Cheers,
> -T
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>

From dave at hopest.net  Tue Aug  2 02:54:09 2011
From: dave at hopest.net (Dave Collins)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54:09 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>

I'll be in an mpug team

-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
the team as well :)

Cheers,
-T
_____________________________________________

melbourne-pug mailing list
melbourne-pug at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

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From gcross at fastmail.fm  Tue Aug  2 03:18:51 2011
From: gcross at fastmail.fm (Graeme Cross)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:18:51 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Hi Dave & Tennessee.

I'll happily join a mpug team as well. One of the guys from work
here (Nathan) is also coming on the Friday night, so we could
have 4 programmers (we're allowed 5?).

Cheers
Graeme

On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54 +1000, "Dave Collins" <dave at hopest.net>
wrote:

  I'll be in an mpug team
  --
  Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
  brevity.

Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
the team as well :)

Cheers,
-T
    _________________________________________________________

melbourne-pug mailing list
melbourne-pug at python.org
[1]http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

_______________________________________________
melbourne-pug mailing list
melbourne-pug at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

References

1. http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 04:53:12 2011
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 12:53:12 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
	<1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <CADhgxgds8BTvUVBq2HPUYK46vvfzpBFY1G065Jn6e=4_nas27g@mail.gmail.com>

Great! I've registered the team "Melbourne Storm" -- I would have
worked out a name for everyone, but last time the regos vanished
before we picked a name, so I just went for it :)

Cheers,
-T

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Graeme Cross <gcross at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Hi Dave & Tennessee.
>
> I'll happily join a mpug team as well. One of the guys from work here
> (Nathan) is also coming on the Friday night, so we could have 4 programmers
> (we're allowed 5?).
>
> Cheers
> Graeme
>
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54 +1000, "Dave Collins" <dave at hopest.net> wrote:
>
> I'll be in an mpug team
>
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
> Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
> team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
> the team as well :)
>
> Cheers,
> -T
>
> ________________________________
>
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>



-- 
--------------------------------------------------
Tennessee Leeuwenburg
http://myownhat.blogspot.com/
"Don't believe everything you think"

From dcrisp at netspace.net.au  Tue Aug  2 05:08:44 2011
From: dcrisp at netspace.net.au (dcrisp at netspace.net.au)
Date: Tue,  2 Aug 2011 13:08:44 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <CADhgxgds8BTvUVBq2HPUYK46vvfzpBFY1G065Jn6e=4_nas27g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
	<1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<CADhgxgds8BTvUVBq2HPUYK46vvfzpBFY1G065Jn6e=4_nas27g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1312254524.4e376a3cee383@webmail.netspace.net.au>

Thats a pretty mighty name to live up to, you know.     the name "melbourne 
Storm" has a pretty strong history of compelatly spanking the socks of any 
competition they are in!
(Not a supporter, I just suffer a supporter as a freind)  

Quoting Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com>:

> Great! I've registered the team "Melbourne Storm" -- I would have
> worked out a name for everyone, but last time the regos vanished
> before we picked a name, so I just went for it :)
> 
> Cheers,
> -T
> 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Graeme Cross <gcross at fastmail.fm> wrote:
> > Hi Dave & Tennessee.
> >
> > I'll happily join a mpug team as well. One of the guys from work here
> > (Nathan) is also coming on the Friday night, so we could have 4 programmers
> > (we're allowed 5?).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Graeme
> >
> > On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54 +1000, "Dave Collins" <dave at hopest.net> wrote:
> >
> > I'll be in an mpug team
> >
> > --
> > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> >
> > Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
> > team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
> > the team as well :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -T
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > melbourne-pug mailing list
> > melbourne-pug at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > melbourne-pug mailing list
> > melbourne-pug at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > melbourne-pug mailing list
> > melbourne-pug at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> --------------------------------------------------
> Tennessee Leeuwenburg
> http://myownhat.blogspot.com/
> "Don't believe everything you think"
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> 





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From gcross at fastmail.fm  Tue Aug  2 08:18:25 2011
From: gcross at fastmail.fm (Graeme Cross)
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:18:25 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: LUV August Meeting - Game Design, Blender,
	Python; and OSIA
Message-ID: <1312265905.16789.2158448329@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Apologies for the late notice, but there's a Python talk at the LUV
meeting tonight that might be of interest...


----- Original message -----
From: "Jiri Baum" <jiri at baum.com.au>
To: luv-announce at luv.asn.au
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:39:27 +1000
Subject: LUV August Meeting - Game Design, Blender, Python; and OSIA

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tuesday 2 August 6:30pm for 7pm start at The Buzzard Lecture Theatre.
Evan
Burge Building, Trinity College, Melbourne University Main Campus,
Parkville.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Talks:
* Game Design with Blender and Python ? Alex Fraser
* OSIA ? Daniel Jitnah

* Library of LUV
* After the meeting, come have dinner with us at Maria's Trattoria!
122-124 Peel St

Also in this announcement:
* Beginner's Workshop ? 20 August 2011
* #luv IRC channel
* mailing list policy
* Map of the meeting location
http://luv.asn.au/content/venue-maps


http://luv.asn.au/2011/08/02


** Game Design with Blender and Python ? Alex Fraser **

Blender is a neat 3D modelling and animation tool. A little-known fact
is that 
it is also a powerful game development environment. This talk will give 
examples of games made with the Blender Game Engine, and instruction for 
creating basic games.

Alex has a Bachelor of Information Technology and a Certificate in 3D 
Animation. He works as a software engineer, and develops independent
games as 
a hobby. His demo of his upcoming game Cargo won second prize in the
2010 
Blender Game Contest.


** OSIA ? Daniel Jitnah **

OSIA is the national industry body for Open Source within Australia. We
exist 
to further the cause of both Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) in
Australia 
and to help our members to improve their business success in this
growing 
sector of the global Information and Communication Technology (ICT)
market. 
Come to this talk to hear about the current status of the organisation
and to 
help brainstorm ways in which it could better serve its members.

Daniel is an Independent Developer and Consultant in Linux and Open
Source 
System. He has been using Linux for over 10yrs, starting with an old
version 
of Slackware, and then moving to RedHat 5.1 - From then on he never
looked 
back. He also claims to having never used Windows or Microsoft software
as his 
primary Operating System. Prior to using Linux, he was using OS/2 and
before 
that he used plain DOS, IBM branded and DR-DOS. His first computer was a 
Commodore 128 system!! - Unfortunately - he also had a dab of bad SCO
Xenix at 
some stage in his life :( !!


** Library of LUV **

Library of LUV is a collection of books available for loan to members.
The 
collection is managed through the wiki and the books are circulated at
the
monthly LUV meetings (and the Penguin Picnic, in January). For more
details, 
please see the wiki: http://wiki.luv.asn.au/LoL


** Dinner **

Before and/or after each meeting those who are interested are welcome to
join 
other members for dinner. We are open to suggestions for a good place to
eat 
near our venue. Maria's on Peel Street in North Melbourne is currently
the 
most popular place to eat after meetings.


** Beginner's Workshop ? 20th August **

The August Beginner's Workshop will be held on the third Saturday at The
Hub, 
with the usual unstructured workshop area and a talk by Lev Lafayette
giving 
an introduction to computer hardware with Linux. Bring your laptop! For
more 
info, updates and discussion about the Beginner's Workshop, subscribe to
the 
luv-beginners mailing list:
http://lists.luv.asn.au/luv-beginners

The Melbourne OLPC Club meetings are co-located with the Beginner's
Workshops. 
If you are interested in the OLPC project, please come and join in!

Drupal Melbourne meetings are also co-located with the Beginner's
Workshops, 
taking place in the Long Room at The Hub.


** #luv IRC channel **

A reminder that LUV has an IRC channel - join #luv on FreeNode to chat
with 
fellow LUVvers in real time!


** Mailing list policy **

The committee does not generally monitor or moderate the LUV mailing
lists and 
expects members to conduct themselves appropriately. On complaint,
however,
we may investigate, and if behaviour is unbecoming a member of LUV, we
may 
remove that member from the mailing list for a period of time as deemed 
appropriate by the committee.


** Map of the meeting venue **

Our website now has an all-new map of the meeting venue, more clearly
showing 
how to find the Buzzard Lecture Theatre. Just follow either of the red
lines!
http://luv.asn.au/content/venue-maps


** RedHat training discount **

A discount on RedHat training is available to LUV members. To obtain
this 
discount, you need to enter: "Linux User Group member - 10% discount" in
the
special offer section of the enrolment form. 
http://www.redhat.com.au/training/


** Acknowledgements **

LUV would like to acknowledge Red Hat for their help in obtaining the
Buzzard 
Lecture Theatre venue, BENK Open Systems for sponsoring the Beginner's
Workshops and VPAC for hosting!

http://redhat.com.au
http://benk.net.au
http://vpac.org


From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Tue Aug  2 09:58:06 2011
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:58:06 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <1312254524.4e376a3cee383@webmail.netspace.net.au>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
	<1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<CADhgxgds8BTvUVBq2HPUYK46vvfzpBFY1G065Jn6e=4_nas27g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1312254524.4e376a3cee383@webmail.netspace.net.au>
Message-ID: <CADhgxgd4cYCoOPzBZxMBROAsnG+4OjFXJLo5r3tFkFhftwcq5g@mail.gmail.com>

I was considering Melbourne Storm Drain...:)
On 02/08/2011 1:08 PM, <dcrisp at netspace.net.au> wrote:
> Thats a pretty mighty name to live up to, you know. the name "melbourne
> Storm" has a pretty strong history of compelatly spanking the socks of any

> competition they are in!
> (Not a supporter, I just suffer a supporter as a freind)
>
> Quoting Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com>:
>
>> Great! I've registered the team "Melbourne Storm" -- I would have
>> worked out a name for everyone, but last time the regos vanished
>> before we picked a name, so I just went for it :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -T
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Graeme Cross <gcross at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> > Hi Dave & Tennessee.
>> >
>> > I'll happily join a mpug team as well. One of the guys from work here
>> > (Nathan) is also coming on the Friday night, so we could have 4
programmers
>> > (we're allowed 5?).
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Graeme
>> >
>> > On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54 +1000, "Dave Collins" <dave at hopest.net>
wrote:
>> >
>> > I'll be in an mpug team
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>> >
>> > Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
>> > team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
>> > the team as well :)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > -T
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> > melbourne-pug mailing list
>> > melbourne-pug at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > melbourne-pug mailing list
>> > melbourne-pug at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > melbourne-pug mailing list
>> > melbourne-pug at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Tennessee Leeuwenburg
>> http://myownhat.blogspot.com/
>> "Don't believe everything you think"
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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From ed at pythoncharmers.com  Tue Aug  2 21:00:19 2011
From: ed at pythoncharmers.com (Ed Schofield)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 05:00:19 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
	<1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
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Tennessee, Dave, Graham: I'd be happy to join in too -- if I can get to the
venue on time. My flight lands in Sydney at 5:10pm ...

Cheers,
    Ed


On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Graeme Cross <gcross at fastmail.fm> wrote:

>  Hi Dave & Tennessee.
>
>  I'll happily join a mpug team as well. One of the guys from work here
> (Nathan) is also coming on the Friday night, so we could have 4 programmers
> (we're allowed 5?).
>
>  Cheers
>  Graeme
>
>   On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54 +1000, "Dave Collins" <dave at hopest.net> wrote:
>
> I'll be in an mpug team
>
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
>  Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
> team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
> the team as well :)
>
> Cheers,
> -T
>
> ------------------------------
>
> melbourne-pug mailing listmelbourne-pug at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>  _______________________________________________
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> melbourne-pug at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>
>
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> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 02:35:53 2011
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:35:53 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <CA+8hrDj=Qi4-yr+X1umHBNZSz0ruZgO+Nf_z8qoZoob+RVMRmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
	<1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<CA+8hrDj=Qi4-yr+X1umHBNZSz0ruZgO+Nf_z8qoZoob+RVMRmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADhgxgcWDtaYN+kHbVw5MJn+v8ah0VAqgXuow6z40JXKA9ORGA@mail.gmail.com>

Well, my plane lands at 5.40, so if I'm not there on time, someone
else will have to step in as captain! I think I should be able to get
there though.

Cheers,
-T

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Ed Schofield <ed at pythoncharmers.com> wrote:
> Tennessee, Dave, Graham: I'd be happy to join in too -- if I can get to the
> venue on time. My flight lands in Sydney at 5:10pm ...
> Cheers,
> ? ? Ed
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Graeme Cross <gcross at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave & Tennessee.
>>
>> I'll happily join a mpug team as well. One of the guys from work here
>> (Nathan) is also coming on the Friday night, so we could have 4 programmers
>> (we're allowed 5?).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Graeme
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54 +1000, "Dave Collins" <dave at hopest.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'll be in an mpug team
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>> Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
>> team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
>> the team as well :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -T
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Edward Schofield
> Python Charmers
> +61 (0)405 676 229
> http://pythoncharmers.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>



-- 
--------------------------------------------------
Tennessee Leeuwenburg
http://myownhat.blogspot.com/
"Don't believe everything you think"

From mydnite1 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 02:46:24 2011
From: mydnite1 at gmail.com (James Alford)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:46:24 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] python web framework comparison article
Message-ID: <CA+nj2LYp+4qiBR=cv4H97c7zVr_uWdxDxcq3hs=NJCzXy2mGyA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

An article comparing python web frameworks was posted on Slashdot for
anyone interested:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/pillars-python-six-python-web-frameworks-compared-169442
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/08/10/2111203/Six-Python-Web-Frameworks-Compared

It compares the heavier frameworks, orthogonal to Richard's web micro
framework battle.

-- 
Regards

James Alford

--

From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com  Thu Aug 11 02:50:22 2011
From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:50:22 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] python web framework comparison article
In-Reply-To: <CA+nj2LYp+4qiBR=cv4H97c7zVr_uWdxDxcq3hs=NJCzXy2mGyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+nj2LYp+4qiBR=cv4H97c7zVr_uWdxDxcq3hs=NJCzXy2mGyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZBubvMOzEJZQHs3tHDaTRqU5mtVNXefWxpCOXpFLK5bwQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 11 August 2011 10:46, James Alford <mydnite1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> An article comparing python web frameworks was posted on Slashdot for
> anyone interested:
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/pillars-python-six-python-web-frameworks-compared-169442
> http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/08/10/2111203/Six-Python-Web-Frameworks-Compared
>
> It compares the heavier frameworks, orthogonal to Richard's web micro
> framework battle.

Yes, it's an interesting article. I disagree with some of it (the
front page ranks criteria but only grants frameworks a 7, 8 or 9 - how
were those arbitrary numbers obtained? and why doesn't Django get a 10
in *at least* Capability and Documentation?)

It's interesting also that web.py is in their list (of what I call
mega-frameworks) since it's also in my micro-framework talk. Unlike
the other mega-frameworks t's perfectly usable as a micro-framework.

CubicWeb didn't make it onto my radar for my talk, unfortunately.


     Richard

From ryan at rfk.id.au  Thu Aug 11 04:17:47 2011
From: ryan at rfk.id.au (Ryan Kelly)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 02:17:47 -0000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia 2011: Registration Closing Soon!
Message-ID: <20110811021747.15825.69324@pyglet.org>


Hi Everyone,


Registrations for PyCon Australia 2011 are closing soon!

The conference is just over a week away, so we need final numbers in the
next few days.  If you're planning to attend, please register now!

PyCon Australia is Australia's only conference dedicated exclusively to
the Python programming language, and will be held at the Sydney Masonic
Center over the weekend of August 20 and 21. See below for more
information and updates on:
 
     1. Registration Closing Soon
     2. Coffee
     3. Hosting Panel
     4. More Sponsors Announced
 
Please pass this message on to those you feel may be interested.

 

Registration Closing Soon
=========================

Full Registrations for the conference will be closing on:

    Monday 15th August:  Full Registrations close

That's only five days away, so register now to be sure you don't
miss out.

By request, we will still allow latecomers to register until just before
the conference.  However, since it's after the deadline for catering and
printing, you won't be entitled to a T-shirt or a seat at the conference
dinner:

    Thursday 18th August:  Last-Minute Registrations close

Please note that we will *not* accept registrations at the door.

So don't delay, register now at:

    http://pycon-au.org/reg



Coffee
======

Thanks to gold sponsors Arclight, we will be able to provide one of the
most requested additions to this year's conference:  Coffee!

Yes, Arclight have generously agreed to provide a free coffee cart for
the duration of the conference.  And there was much rejoicing.



Hosting Panel
=============

Saturday evening will feature an informal panel discussion with several
hosting providers.  Come and hear from our hosting panel about why their
services are right for hosting your next Python project! Each group will
give a quick 5 minute spiel, to be followed by a casual drink before the
conference dinner.

This event is happening in a private area at Mr B's pub, across the street
from the SMC. As this is a licensed venue anyone under 18 will have to be
accompanied by a parent or guardian.



More Sponsors Announced
=======================

We are delighted to confirm that the Django Software Foundation and Ninefold
have joined as Silver sponsors.  In addition, Arclight have upgraded to Gold
Sponsorship, Anchor have agreed to sponsor video production, and GitHub will
be sponsoring internet access.

Thanks once again to the following companies for their continuing support of
Python and for helping to make PyCon Australia 2011 a reality:


    Gold:  Google                         <http://www.google.com.au/>
    Gold:  ComOps                         <http://www.comops.com.au/>
    Gold:  Arclight                       <http://www.arclight.com.au/>
 
    Video:  Anchor                        <http://anchor.com.au/>

    Silver:  Enthought                    <http://www.enthought.com/>
    Silver:  Python Software Foundation   <http://www.python.org/psf/>
    Silver:  WingWare                     <http://www.wingware.com/>
    Silver:  Bitbucket by Atlassian       <http://bitbucket.org/>
    Silver:  Microsoft                    <http://www.microsoft.com/>
    Silver:  Django Software Foundation   <http://www.djangoproject.com>
    Silver:  Ninefold                     <http://ninefold.com/>

    Internet:  GitHub                     <http://github.com/>


Thanks also to Linux Australia, who provide the overarching legal and
organisational structure for PyCon Australia.



    Ryan Kelly
    PyCon Australia 2011



-- 
Ryan Kelly
http://www.rfk.id.au  |  This message is digitally signed. Please visit
ryan at rfk.id.au        |  http://www.rfk.id.au/ramblings/gpg/ for details


From javier at candeira.com  Mon Aug 15 13:37:24 2011
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:37:24 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ubuntu and nvidia and Xorg and no-EDID projectors
	conspire against me
Message-ID: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>

Today I have spent the best part of an afternoon fighting a projector
in a classroom. My laptop runs ubuntu 10.10, has a nvidia geforce go
5200, and will only output 640x480 through VGA. I think the problem is
that the projector is behind an AV system that obscures the EDID,
because with monitors I have managed better.

If anyone has experience marrying nvidia cards under ubuntu to
projectors, I will appreciate their help. Especially since I am
presenting at pycon this coming weekend!

Struggling,

Javier

From hartror at gmail.com  Mon Aug 15 13:46:49 2011
From: hartror at gmail.com (Rory Hart)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 21:46:49 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ubuntu and nvidia and Xorg and no-EDID
 projectors conspire against me
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADf+qJeEpzHoQZ+vBv4ByJ-GHhd2RUjLBPbTgWT06_n+NHRcpw@mail.gmail.com>

Are you just using the nvidia config tool or are you hacking the xorg.conf?

If you haven't attacked the xorg.conf back it up first then use the nvidia
tool to overwrite it with the projector settings then edit the file for the
higher resolution.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com>wrote:

> Today I have spent the best part of an afternoon fighting a projector
> in a classroom. My laptop runs ubuntu 10.10, has a nvidia geforce go
> 5200, and will only output 640x480 through VGA. I think the problem is
> that the projector is behind an AV system that obscures the EDID,
> because with monitors I have managed better.
>
> If anyone has experience marrying nvidia cards under ubuntu to
> projectors, I will appreciate their help. Especially since I am
> presenting at pycon this coming weekend!
>
> Struggling,
>
> Javier
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>



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From javier at candeira.com  Mon Aug 15 15:24:33 2011
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 23:24:33 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ubuntu and nvidia and Xorg and no-EDID
 projectors conspire against me
In-Reply-To: <CADf+qJeEpzHoQZ+vBv4ByJ-GHhd2RUjLBPbTgWT06_n+NHRcpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADf+qJeEpzHoQZ+vBv4ByJ-GHhd2RUjLBPbTgWT06_n+NHRcpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKADsbc=xqZphzt4rKysdhgPSav7Dw328srMFAru3zZQ8B6REw@mail.gmail.com>

The nvidia-settings tool is what restricts me to 640x480.

I have tried editing the xorg.conf by hand, using the strategy you
suggest, with not much success. I'll give it another try tomorrow
between classes.

Thanks,

J

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Rory Hart <hartror at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you just using the nvidia config tool or are you hacking the xorg.conf?
> If you haven't attacked the xorg.conf back it up first then use the nvidia
> tool to overwrite it with the projector settings then edit the file for the
> higher resolution.
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Today I have spent the best part of an afternoon fighting a projector
>> in a classroom. My laptop runs ubuntu 10.10, has a nvidia geforce go
>> 5200, and will only output 640x480 through VGA. I think the problem is
>> that the projector is behind an AV system that obscures the EDID,
>> because with monitors I have managed better.
>>
>> If anyone has experience marrying nvidia cards under ubuntu to
>> projectors, I will appreciate their help. Especially since I am
>> presenting at pycon this coming weekend!
>>
>> Struggling,
>>
>> Javier
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>
>
> --
> Rory Hart
> http://www.roryhart.net
> http://www.relishment.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>

From brian.curtin at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 00:38:12 2011
From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:38:12 -0500
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Looking for PyCon 2012 Speakers
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwoWhgL5qehgUNxrzQfkEdF2S3Pxhc06JBE0M0PKtgKvOA@mail.gmail.com>

With PyCon 2012 efforts off to a great start, we?re looking for you,
the people of the Python community, so show us what you?ve got. Our
call for proposals (http://us.pycon.org/2012/cfp/) just went out and
we want to include you in our 2012 conference schedule, taking place
March 7-15, 2012 in Santa Clara, CA.

The call covers tutorial, talk, and poster applications, and we?re
expecting to blow the previous record of 250 applications out of the
water. Put together your best 3-hour class proposals for one of the
tutorial sessions on March 7 and 8. Submit your best talks on any
range of topics for the conference days, March 9 through 11. The
poster session will be in full swing on Sunday with a series of 4'x4'
posters and an open floor for attendees to interact with presenters.
Get your applications in early - we want to help you put together the
best proposal possible, so we?re going to work with submitters as
applications come in.

See more details and submit your talks here: http://us.pycon.org/2012/speaker/

We?re also looking for feedback from your past PyCon experiences along
with what you?re looking for in the future, by way of our 2012
Guidance Survey at
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pycon2012_launch_survey. The attendees
make the conference, so every response we get from you makes a
difference in putting together the best conference we can.

If you or your company is interested in sponsoring PyCon, we?d love to
hear from you. Join our growing list with Diamond sponsors Google and
Dropbox, and Platinum sponsors Microsoft, Nasuni, SurveyMonkey, and
Gondor by Eldarion. CCP Games, Linode, Walt Disney Animation Studios,
Canonical, DotCloud, Loggly, Revolution Systems, ZeOmega, bitly,
ActiveState, JetBrains, Snoball, Caktus Consulting Group, and Disqus
make up our Gold sponsors. The Silver sponsors so far are 10gen,
GitHub, Olark, Wingware, net-ng, Imaginary Landscape, BigDoor, Fwix,
AG Interactive, Bitbucket, The Open Bastion, Accense Technology, Cox
Media Group, and myYearbook. See our sponsorship page at
http://us.pycon.org/2012/sponsors/ for more details.

The PyCon Organizers - http://us.pycon.org/2012
Jesse Noller - Chairman - jnoller at python.org
Brian Curtin - Publicity Coordinator - brian at python.org

From mattbster at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 03:37:01 2011
From: mattbster at gmail.com (mattb b)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:37:01 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ubuntu and nvidia and Xorg and no-EDID
 projectors conspire against me
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsbc=xqZphzt4rKysdhgPSav7Dw328srMFAru3zZQ8B6REw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADf+qJeEpzHoQZ+vBv4ByJ-GHhd2RUjLBPbTgWT06_n+NHRcpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKADsbc=xqZphzt4rKysdhgPSav7Dw328srMFAru3zZQ8B6REw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFpxMb1b8ME70nbQZWEz9avsfaw5zk_dd_toHYmL11tKAfXi4Q@mail.gmail.com>

What version of the nvidia driver are you using? Or are you using nouveau?

-Matt
On Aug 15, 2011 11:24 PM, "Javier Candeira" <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
> The nvidia-settings tool is what restricts me to 640x480.
>
> I have tried editing the xorg.conf by hand, using the strategy you
> suggest, with not much success. I'll give it another try tomorrow
> between classes.
>
> Thanks,
>
> J
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Rory Hart <hartror at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are you just using the nvidia config tool or are you hacking the
xorg.conf?
>> If you haven't attacked the xorg.conf back it up first then use the
nvidia
>> tool to overwrite it with the projector settings then edit the file for
the
>> higher resolution.
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Today I have spent the best part of an afternoon fighting a projector
>>> in a classroom. My laptop runs ubuntu 10.10, has a nvidia geforce go
>>> 5200, and will only output 640x480 through VGA. I think the problem is
>>> that the projector is behind an AV system that obscures the EDID,
>>> because with monitors I have managed better.
>>>
>>> If anyone has experience marrying nvidia cards under ubuntu to
>>> projectors, I will appreciate their help. Especially since I am
>>> presenting at pycon this coming weekend!
>>>
>>> Struggling,
>>>
>>> Javier
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rory Hart
>> http://www.roryhart.net
>> http://www.relishment.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 06:17:46 2011
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:17:46 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] CodeWars registration update
Message-ID: <CADhgxgcKJMYs=Stz_u0=VoGrOBz4LXt8TQ-fYCPv9aNpCCQ0WA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

For anyone on the "Melbourne Storm" team, or another team, I was sent
an update regarding "Code Wars" at PyCon today reminding everyone to
have RSVPd successfully....


Due to the demand for teams wanting to compete we've added an open
qualifying round. If you want to compete ensure ALL your team has
rsvped and are there before 7pm. The first question will be given to
everyone in the audience. The first 8 teams to complete get through to
the next round.

Also note we've added a creative round which is something that has
been in all code war events to date except for last years pycon code
war. So make sure you have a well balanced team :)

Not many tickets left so get in there quick.



Event: Code War PyCon-AU 2011

Date: Friday, August 19, 2011 from 6:30 PM to 10:30 PM (GMT+1000)

Location:
Atlassian
185 Sussex st
(go around the back, entrance via rear, lower ground)
Sydney, New South Wales 2000
Australia

For more information click here: Code War PyCon-AU 2011

From gcross at fastmail.fm  Tue Aug 16 06:47:53 2011
From: gcross at fastmail.fm (Graeme Cross)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:47:53 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] CodeWars registration update
In-Reply-To: <CADhgxgcKJMYs=Stz_u0=VoGrOBz4LXt8TQ-fYCPv9aNpCCQ0WA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADhgxgcKJMYs=Stz_u0=VoGrOBz4LXt8TQ-fYCPv9aNpCCQ0WA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1313470073.22621.140258130074413@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:17 +1000, "Tennessee Leeuwenburg"
<tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> For anyone on the "Melbourne Storm" team, or another team, I was sent
> an update regarding "Code Wars" at PyCon today reminding everyone to
> have RSVPd successfully....
> 


In case the RSVP link didn't work for you:

https://codewarpyconau.eventbrite.com/

Cheers
Graeme

From dariusp686 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 16 12:47:48 2011
From: dariusp686 at gmail.com (Darius Powell)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:47:48 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ubuntu and nvidia and Xorg and no-EDID
 projectors conspire against me
In-Reply-To: <CAFpxMb1b8ME70nbQZWEz9avsfaw5zk_dd_toHYmL11tKAfXi4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADf+qJeEpzHoQZ+vBv4ByJ-GHhd2RUjLBPbTgWT06_n+NHRcpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKADsbc=xqZphzt4rKysdhgPSav7Dw328srMFAru3zZQ8B6REw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFpxMb1b8ME70nbQZWEz9avsfaw5zk_dd_toHYmL11tKAfXi4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMTO6dweJmVJODFXTjkvdhuvwxb2_FxGAcM9NundAV9metD7rg@mail.gmail.com>

You could always try using xrandr directly rather than modifying xorg
directly (and presumably restarting X).

To output to 2 monitors using 1 vga and 1 hdmi I use:

/usr/bin/xrandr --output VGA-0 --preferred --output HDMI-0 --preferred
--right-of VGA-0

See xrandr --help for info.

On 16 August 2011 11:37, mattb b <mattbster at gmail.com> wrote:
> What version of the nvidia driver are you using? Or are you using nouveau?
>
> -Matt
>
> On Aug 15, 2011 11:24 PM, "Javier Candeira" <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
>> The nvidia-settings tool is what restricts me to 640x480.
>>
>> I have tried editing the xorg.conf by hand, using the strategy you
>> suggest, with not much success. I'll give it another try tomorrow
>> between classes.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Rory Hart <hartror at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Are you just using the nvidia config tool or are you hacking the
>>> xorg.conf?
>>> If you haven't attacked the xorg.conf back it up first then use the
>>> nvidia
>>> tool to overwrite it with the projector settings then edit the file for
>>> the
>>> higher resolution.
>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Today I have spent the best part of an afternoon fighting a projector
>>>> in a classroom. My laptop runs ubuntu 10.10, has a nvidia geforce go
>>>> 5200, and will only output 640x480 through VGA. I think the problem is
>>>> that the projector is behind an AV system that obscures the EDID,
>>>> because with monitors I have managed better.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has experience marrying nvidia cards under ubuntu to
>>>> projectors, I will appreciate their help. Especially since I am
>>>> presenting at pycon this coming weekend!
>>>>
>>>> Struggling,
>>>>
>>>> Javier
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rory Hart
>>> http://www.roryhart.net
>>> http://www.relishment.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>

From javier at candeira.com  Tue Aug 16 13:46:05 2011
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:46:05 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ubuntu and nvidia and Xorg and no-EDID
 projectors conspire against me
In-Reply-To: <CAMTO6dweJmVJODFXTjkvdhuvwxb2_FxGAcM9NundAV9metD7rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADf+qJeEpzHoQZ+vBv4ByJ-GHhd2RUjLBPbTgWT06_n+NHRcpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKADsbc=xqZphzt4rKysdhgPSav7Dw328srMFAru3zZQ8B6REw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFpxMb1b8ME70nbQZWEz9avsfaw5zk_dd_toHYmL11tKAfXi4Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMTO6dweJmVJODFXTjkvdhuvwxb2_FxGAcM9NundAV9metD7rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKADsbc_7OYk4Sdx0d=nyUnA1pk-T15za6jsG7fcJpi3m1qyNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, I tried xrandr too, but the nvidia driver didn't seem to work
with xrandr.

I have asked to borrow a Windows laptop. If I get it I will install my
stack in a VirtualBox VM and look at fixing my projector woes some
other time.

Thanks,

Javier

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Darius Powell <dariusp686 at gmail.com> wrote:
> You could always try using xrandr directly rather than modifying xorg
> directly (and presumably restarting X).
>
> To output to 2 monitors using 1 vga and 1 hdmi I use:
>
> /usr/bin/xrandr --output VGA-0 --preferred --output HDMI-0 --preferred
> --right-of VGA-0
>
> See xrandr --help for info.
>
> On 16 August 2011 11:37, mattb b <mattbster at gmail.com> wrote:
>> What version of the nvidia driver are you using? Or are you using nouveau?
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011 11:24 PM, "Javier Candeira" <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
>>> The nvidia-settings tool is what restricts me to 640x480.
>>>
>>> I have tried editing the xorg.conf by hand, using the strategy you
>>> suggest, with not much success. I'll give it another try tomorrow
>>> between classes.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Rory Hart <hartror at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Are you just using the nvidia config tool or are you hacking the
>>>> xorg.conf?
>>>> If you haven't attacked the xorg.conf back it up first then use the
>>>> nvidia
>>>> tool to overwrite it with the projector settings then edit the file for
>>>> the
>>>> higher resolution.
>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I have spent the best part of an afternoon fighting a projector
>>>>> in a classroom. My laptop runs ubuntu 10.10, has a nvidia geforce go
>>>>> 5200, and will only output 640x480 through VGA. I think the problem is
>>>>> that the projector is behind an AV system that obscures the EDID,
>>>>> because with monitors I have managed better.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has experience marrying nvidia cards under ubuntu to
>>>>> projectors, I will appreciate their help. Especially since I am
>>>>> presenting at pycon this coming weekend!
>>>>>
>>>>> Struggling,
>>>>>
>>>>> Javier
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rory Hart
>>>> http://www.roryhart.net
>>>> http://www.relishment.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>

From noonslists at gmail.com  Fri Aug 19 00:50:40 2011
From: noonslists at gmail.com (Noon Silk)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:50:40 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] nose + processes + xunit
Message-ID: <CADt_azY2GeBUBcOTmR6pnYELXseJ0UUjELvQE6EzzoyB9QTr4g@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone had any trouble here?

I am in a situation where, the tests run fine when I don't include
"--processes=N", however, when I *do* do that, they exit early?

The reason I think they exit, is that I'm actually running a different
executable, and I load it like so:

retcode = subprocess.call(["start /wait myprog.exe"], shell=True)

Now, note that this is on Windows 7; the "start /wait" does basically
exactly what you think. *And indeed it operates correctly in a single
process*, but when nose tries to run multi-process, it fails to block,
and the test executes far sooner than it should.

Indeed, Nose claims that it ran 0 tests, when it actually at least ran
1! So, I think the myprog.exe is sending some signal to kill it.

It so happens that start has a "/B"  parameter that may also help
here, but actually it doesn't. The result is that I don't get any
further output from the test (that is, the xunit xml isn't generated,
and even the console doesn't report anything as having happened).

Interested in thoughts ...

-- 
Noon Silk

Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en

"Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy
of being this signature."

From javier at candeira.com  Fri Aug 19 11:52:56 2011
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:52:56 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Ubuntu and nvidia and Xorg and no-EDID
 projectors conspire against me
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsbc_7OYk4Sdx0d=nyUnA1pk-T15za6jsG7fcJpi3m1qyNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbfpjVwdoBSx+bB_RRLdroRX7zq9kqUEhTDXN+N_3Ah14g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADf+qJeEpzHoQZ+vBv4ByJ-GHhd2RUjLBPbTgWT06_n+NHRcpw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKADsbc=xqZphzt4rKysdhgPSav7Dw328srMFAru3zZQ8B6REw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFpxMb1b8ME70nbQZWEz9avsfaw5zk_dd_toHYmL11tKAfXi4Q@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAKADsbc_7OYk4Sdx0d=nyUnA1pk-T15za6jsG7fcJpi3m1qyNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKADsbf8UjQQZ2xTzy3PbYNjfqM4QhU9ibhjXvorE8MC73XOvA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone, and thanks to everyone who offered their help.

In the end I have managed to get a loaner laptop with Windows in it,
and installed VirtualBox on it for my Debian install with aDjango
install in it.

In a way, I am using Windows as the laptop's firmware and projector
driver; with VirtualBox in fullscreen mode, you can't even tell it's
there.

Turtles all the way down, folks! Can you prove otherwise?

Cheers and thanks again,

Javier

From anthony.briggs at gmail.com  Fri Aug 19 13:53:51 2011
From: anthony.briggs at gmail.com (Anthony Briggs)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:53:51 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU code wars
In-Reply-To: <CADhgxgcWDtaYN+kHbVw5MJn+v8ah0VAqgXuow6z40JXKA9ORGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADhgxgc2pnFpFgSJ9ZHLU-ow30ECDcx818JpErxLXiWh0LLViw@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a65f7d6-03bd-4804-b95f-7e86b96e7601@email.android.com>
	<1312247931.16387.2158380605@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<CA+8hrDj=Qi4-yr+X1umHBNZSz0ruZgO+Nf_z8qoZoob+RVMRmA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAO4-38-7oZiiNz3N8xDpgw9Fq-X8doEFzhsXG+V7o4dGjMVUCg@mail.gmail.com>

I just got into my hotel, so a bit late to join you, but I'll catch up with
you all tomorrow, I'm sure.

Hope we gave those Sydneysiders a damn good thrashing... :-)
On Aug 3, 2011 10:36 AM, "Tennessee Leeuwenburg" <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Well, my plane lands at 5.40, so if I'm not there on time, someone
> else will have to step in as captain! I think I should be able to get
> there though.
>
> Cheers,
> -T
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Ed Schofield <ed at pythoncharmers.com>
wrote:
>> Tennessee, Dave, Graham: I'd be happy to join in too -- if I can get to
the
>> venue on time. My flight lands in Sydney at 5:10pm ...
>> Cheers,
>>     Ed
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Graeme Cross <gcross at fastmail.fm> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave & Tennessee.
>>>
>>> I'll happily join a mpug team as well. One of the guys from work here
>>> (Nathan) is also coming on the Friday night, so we could have 4
programmers
>>> (we're allowed 5?).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Graeme
>>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:54 +1000, "Dave Collins" <dave at hopest.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll be in an mpug team
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>
>>> Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is anyone from here going to be up for this? We should register a
>>> team... I'm happy to do that, but I'll need someone who can code on
>>> the team as well :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -T
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Edward Schofield
>> Python Charmers
>> +61 (0)405 676 229
>> http://pythoncharmers.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------
> Tennessee Leeuwenburg
> http://myownhat.blogspot.com/
> "Don't believe everything you think"
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From javier at candeira.com  Sat Aug 20 02:53:19 2011
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:53:19 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia 2011: Registration Closing Soon!
In-Reply-To: <20110811021747.15825.69324@pyglet.org>
References: <20110811021747.15825.69324@pyglet.org>
Message-ID: <CAKADsbcygHd_G_BrCzc3AVxWM1c2wdVMzk0MQAxC3gUtrG08FQ@mail.gmail.com>

Just landed Sydney (delay due to fog). Will be there for my session...

J
On Aug 11, 2011 12:25 PM, "Ryan Kelly" <ryan at rfk.id.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
> Registrations for PyCon Australia 2011 are closing soon!
>
> The conference is just over a week away, so we need final numbers in the
> next few days. If you're planning to attend, please register now!
>
> PyCon Australia is Australia's only conference dedicated exclusively to
> the Python programming language, and will be held at the Sydney Masonic
> Center over the weekend of August 20 and 21. See below for more
> information and updates on:
>
> 1. Registration Closing Soon
> 2. Coffee
> 3. Hosting Panel
> 4. More Sponsors Announced
>
> Please pass this message on to those you feel may be interested.
>
>
>
> Registration Closing Soon
> =========================
>
> Full Registrations for the conference will be closing on:
>
> Monday 15th August: Full Registrations close
>
> That's only five days away, so register now to be sure you don't
> miss out.
>
> By request, we will still allow latecomers to register until just before
> the conference. However, since it's after the deadline for catering and
> printing, you won't be entitled to a T-shirt or a seat at the conference
> dinner:
>
> Thursday 18th August: Last-Minute Registrations close
>
> Please note that we will *not* accept registrations at the door.
>
> So don't delay, register now at:
>
> http://pycon-au.org/reg
>
>
>
> Coffee
> ======
>
> Thanks to gold sponsors Arclight, we will be able to provide one of the
> most requested additions to this year's conference: Coffee!
>
> Yes, Arclight have generously agreed to provide a free coffee cart for
> the duration of the conference. And there was much rejoicing.
>
>
>
> Hosting Panel
> =============
>
> Saturday evening will feature an informal panel discussion with several
> hosting providers. Come and hear from our hosting panel about why their
> services are right for hosting your next Python project! Each group will
> give a quick 5 minute spiel, to be followed by a casual drink before the
> conference dinner.
>
> This event is happening in a private area at Mr B's pub, across the street
> from the SMC. As this is a licensed venue anyone under 18 will have to be
> accompanied by a parent or guardian.
>
>
>
> More Sponsors Announced
> =======================
>
> We are delighted to confirm that the Django Software Foundation and
Ninefold
> have joined as Silver sponsors. In addition, Arclight have upgraded to
Gold
> Sponsorship, Anchor have agreed to sponsor video production, and GitHub
will
> be sponsoring internet access.
>
> Thanks once again to the following companies for their continuing support
of
> Python and for helping to make PyCon Australia 2011 a reality:
>
>
> Gold: Google <http://www.google.com.au/>
> Gold: ComOps <http://www.comops.com.au/>
> Gold: Arclight <http://www.arclight.com.au/>
>
> Video: Anchor <http://anchor.com.au/>
>
> Silver: Enthought <http://www.enthought.com/>
> Silver: Python Software Foundation <http://www.python.org/psf/>
> Silver: WingWare <http://www.wingware.com/>
> Silver: Bitbucket by Atlassian <http://bitbucket.org/>
> Silver: Microsoft <http://www.microsoft.com/>
> Silver: Django Software Foundation <http://www.djangoproject.com>
> Silver: Ninefold <http://ninefold.com/>
>
> Internet: GitHub <http://github.com/>
>
>
> Thanks also to Linux Australia, who provide the overarching legal and
> organisational structure for PyCon Australia.
>
>
>
> Ryan Kelly
> PyCon Australia 2011
>
>
>
> --
> Ryan Kelly
> http://www.rfk.id.au | This message is digitally signed. Please visit
> ryan at rfk.id.au | http://www.rfk.id.au/ramblings/gpg/ for details
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From gcross at fastmail.fm  Sun Aug 28 05:42:09 2011
From: gcross at fastmail.fm (Graeme Cross)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:42:09 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Photos from PyCon AU 2011
Message-ID: <75EE09B9-BA30-4191-A00E-7D75503A9ECB@fastmail.fm>

Hi all.

I've put up some photos from PyCon AU, mainly the code war on the Friday night and the first day of sprints on the Monday.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66855660 at N07/

Regards
Graeme

From tiskanto at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 05:21:18 2011
From: tiskanto at gmail.com (Teguh Iskanto)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:21:18 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Photos from PyCon AU 2011
In-Reply-To: <75EE09B9-BA30-4191-A00E-7D75503A9ECB@fastmail.fm>
References: <75EE09B9-BA30-4191-A00E-7D75503A9ECB@fastmail.fm>
Message-ID: <CAFmf-xdW+yoZnqJ5Y4PevyVywc79cTn-xGNBYaN_X9ai-2kTfw@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, cool ...!
Thanks for sharing anyway :)

Regards,
TI

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Graeme Cross <gcross at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I've put up some photos from PyCon AU, mainly the code war on the Friday
> night and the first day of sprints on the Monday.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/66855660 at N07/
>
> Regards
> Graeme
> _______________________________________________
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> melbourne-pug at python.org
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From gcross at fastmail.fm  Mon Aug 29 06:32:55 2011
From: gcross at fastmail.fm (Graeme Cross)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 14:32:55 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: [Python-au] Linux.conf.au 2012 Open
 Programming Miniconf -- Call for Proposals now open
Message-ID: <1314592375.2803.140258134761721@webmail.messagingengine.com>

FYI; this might be of interest to people heading to LCA in January.

----- Original message -----
From: "Chris Neugebauer" <chrisjrn at gmail.com>
To: "Linux Australia" <linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au>,
python-au at python.net, sydneypython at googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:34:25 +1200
Subject: [Python-au] Linux.conf.au 2012 Open Programming Miniconf --
Call for Proposals now open

(Apologies for cross-posting messages here; likewise, if you are aware
of a relevant developer mailing list that has not received this
message, feel free to forward it on.)

TL;DR -- submit a proposal at http://tinyurl.com/opm2012-proposal
before the first round closes on Friday 7 October.

I'm pleased to announce that The Open Programming Miniconf, a fixture
for application developers attending Linux.conf.au since 2010 is
returning as part of Linux.conf.au 2012, to be held in January at the
University of Ballarat.  The Miniconf has been an opportunity for
presenters of all experience levels to share their experiences in in
application development using free and open source development tools.

The 2012 Open Programming Miniconf invites proposals for 25-minute
presentations on topics relating to the development of excellent Free
and Open Source Software applications.  In particular, the Miniconf
invites presentations that focus on sharing techniques, best practices
and values which are applicable to developers of all Open Source
programming languages.

In the past, topics have included:
- Recent developments in Open Source programming languages ("State of
the language"-type talks)
- Tools which support application development
- Coding applications with cool new libraries, languages and frameworks
- Demonstrating the use of novel programming

Past programmes can be found at
http://lca2011.linux.org.au/programme/schedule/monday and
http://www.lca2010.org.nz/wiki/Miniconfs/Open_Programming_Languages

To submit a proposal, visit http://tinyurl.com/opm2012-proposal and
fill out the form as required.  The CFP will remain open indefinitely,
but the first round of acceptances will not be sent until Friday 7
October 2011.


OPM2012 is part of Linux.conf.au 2012, being held at the University of
Ballarat on Monday, 16 January 2012.  Further enquiries can be
directed to Christopher Neugebauer via e-mail ( chris at neugebauer.id.au
) or via twitter ( @chrisjrn ).


-- 
--Christopher Neugebauer

Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net --
AIM: chrisjrn157 -- MSN: chris at neugebauer.id.au -- WWW:
http://chris.neugebauer.id.au -- Twitter/Identi.ca: @chrisjrn


From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 10:08:40 2011
From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:08:40 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: next Monday the 5th of September
Message-ID: <CAHrZfZB-_1=KNFcPR7gAzNR5E+An=5Z_wVsQeb6TqnOiwXHjrA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Sorry for the late notice. Bit worn out post-PyCon AU :-)

The next meeting is next week. We'll probably talk a bunch about the
conference and things that popped up there. The wiki talk list is
empty - please suggest something! I have a couple of talks on the back
burner, and will probably talk a bit about PyPy's recent release. Not
guaranteeing anything though :-)

As usual the details, including talk signup, are at http://j.mp/mpug


    Richard

From noonslists at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 12:52:12 2011
From: noonslists at gmail.com (Noon Silk)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:52:12 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: next Monday the 5th of September
In-Reply-To: <CAHrZfZB-_1=KNFcPR7gAzNR5E+An=5Z_wVsQeb6TqnOiwXHjrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrZfZB-_1=KNFcPR7gAzNR5E+An=5Z_wVsQeb6TqnOiwXHjrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADt_azZmWz8zVTkMo-L4ux3kPoyEQJZdEWYuaeYULAb=GKfsFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for the late notice. Bit worn out post-PyCon AU :-)
>
> The next meeting is next week. We'll probably talk a bunch about the
> conference and things that popped up there. The wiki talk list is
> empty - please suggest something! I have a couple of talks on the back
> burner, and will probably talk a bit about PyPy's recent release. Not
> guaranteeing anything though :-)
>
> As usual the details, including talk signup, are at http://j.mp/mpug

I could maybe give a very short talk on some problems I've found with
python unit testing frameworks, to maybe save some people some
troubles (or learn where I've gone wrong :)


> ? ?Richard
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

-- 
Noon Silk

Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en

"Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy
of being this signature."

From rhydwyn.beta at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 13:18:19 2011
From: rhydwyn.beta at gmail.com (rhydwyn beta)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:18:19 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: next Monday the 5th of September
In-Reply-To: <CADt_azZmWz8zVTkMo-L4ux3kPoyEQJZdEWYuaeYULAb=GKfsFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrZfZB-_1=KNFcPR7gAzNR5E+An=5Z_wVsQeb6TqnOiwXHjrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADt_azZmWz8zVTkMo-L4ux3kPoyEQJZdEWYuaeYULAb=GKfsFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB9kKXpLA3dvo5E2xSx=jsArFED-oyWWdzJSpv8Y-sjmBPshUw@mail.gmail.com>

I would love that, as I am just starting with pytest

Rhydwyn

On Tuesday, August 30, 2011, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sorry for the late notice. Bit worn out post-PyCon AU :-)
>>
>> The next meeting is next week. We'll probably talk a bunch about the
>> conference and things that popped up there. The wiki talk list is
>> empty - please suggest something! I have a couple of talks on the back
>> burner, and will probably talk a bit about PyPy's recent release. Not
>> guaranteeing anything though :-)
>>
>> As usual the details, including talk signup, are at http://j.mp/mpug
>
> I could maybe give a very short talk on some problems I've found with
> python unit testing frameworks, to maybe save some people some
> troubles (or learn where I've gone wrong :)
>
>
>>    Richard
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
> --
> Noon Silk
>
> Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en
>
> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy
> of being this signature."
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
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From lev at levlafayette.com  Tue Aug 30 12:10:41 2011
From: lev at levlafayette.com (lev at levlafayette.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:10:41 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Software Freedom Day 2011
Message-ID: <c2f1e35f702d6fbd6585cb9b5ac418dd.squirrel@webmail.levlafayette.com>

Greetings Pythonites,

SFD is a public education effort with the aim of increasing awareness of
Free Software and its virtues, and encouraging its use.

Melbourne's event will be held at The Hub, 80 Harbour Esplanade, Docklands
starting at noon on Saturday 17th of September.

Write this down in your diary!

We would like Melbourne's Python Users Group to attend and bring some
members. This year we're using the day to build The Freedom Network - a
community of free software advocates, programmers, systems operators,
database administrators, hardware specialists, and application users -
dedicated to the principle that free software is necessary and effective.

We will plan, network, workshop and share ideas on what we're going to do
in the coming year to promote Software Freedom in the coming year. Planned
workshops include advocating free software in developing countries,
building free software communities in Victoria, free software for
beginners, and code sharing. Interested in running a workshop? Let us
know!

Remember! The Hub, 80 Harbour Esplanade, Docklands starting at noon on
Saturday 17th of September.

Best wishes,


Lev Lafayette
Linux Users of Victoria
http://luv.asn.au
http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2011/Australia/VIC/Melbourne/SFD



From claresloggett at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 04:40:42 2011
From: claresloggett at gmail.com (Clare Sloggett)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:40:42 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: next Monday the 5th of September
In-Reply-To: <CAB9kKXpLA3dvo5E2xSx=jsArFED-oyWWdzJSpv8Y-sjmBPshUw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrZfZB-_1=KNFcPR7gAzNR5E+An=5Z_wVsQeb6TqnOiwXHjrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADt_azZmWz8zVTkMo-L4ux3kPoyEQJZdEWYuaeYULAb=GKfsFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAB9kKXpLA3dvo5E2xSx=jsArFED-oyWWdzJSpv8Y-sjmBPshUw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAETqNqH+F4TbyyRxkNS833GjR0HsEvzOfG5OPdmCio+8CpQ3sA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I haven't been along before, I found out about the group when I went to
pycon, so just thought I would introduce myself. Is the next meeting 6pm
next Monday?

Thanks,
Clare

On 30 August 2011 21:18, rhydwyn beta <rhydwyn.beta at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would love that, as I am just starting with pytest
>
> Rhydwyn
>
> On Tuesday, August 30, 2011, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Sorry for the late notice. Bit worn out post-PyCon AU :-)
> >>
> >> The next meeting is next week. We'll probably talk a bunch about the
> >> conference and things that popped up there. The wiki talk list is
> >> empty - please suggest something! I have a couple of talks on the back
> >> burner, and will probably talk a bit about PyPy's recent release. Not
> >> guaranteeing anything though :-)
> >>
> >> As usual the details, including talk signup, are at http://j.mp/mpug
> >
> > I could maybe give a very short talk on some problems I've found with
> > python unit testing frameworks, to maybe save some people some
> > troubles (or learn where I've gone wrong :)
> >
> >
> >>    Richard
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> melbourne-pug mailing list
> >> melbourne-pug at python.org
> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> >
> > --
> > Noon Silk
> >
> > Fancy a quantum lunch?
> http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en
> >
> > "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy
> > of being this signature."
> > _______________________________________________
> > melbourne-pug mailing list
> > melbourne-pug at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>
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From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Wed Aug 31 04:52:06 2011
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:52:06 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next meeting: next Monday the 5th of September
In-Reply-To: <CAETqNqH+F4TbyyRxkNS833GjR0HsEvzOfG5OPdmCio+8CpQ3sA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrZfZB-_1=KNFcPR7gAzNR5E+An=5Z_wVsQeb6TqnOiwXHjrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADt_azZmWz8zVTkMo-L4ux3kPoyEQJZdEWYuaeYULAb=GKfsFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAB9kKXpLA3dvo5E2xSx=jsArFED-oyWWdzJSpv8Y-sjmBPshUw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAETqNqH+F4TbyyRxkNS833GjR0HsEvzOfG5OPdmCio+8CpQ3sA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADhgxgdxWT09wA4hzeTQT5wQe5GF3H0QeN6VTXoUObHiD=Ao-A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Welcome Clare! Yes, that's correct, the next meeting is on Monday at
6pm. I think we succeed in being a fairly friendly crowd :)

I am unsure if I can make it this time -- probably about 65% likely.
If I can make it, I'm happy to do a few minutes on PyCon, giving a
quick demo of something silly I did in Python, or running through my
benchmarking presentation that I gave.

Cheers,
-T

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Clare Sloggett
<claresloggett at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I haven't been along before, I found out about the group when I went to
> pycon, so just thought I would introduce myself. Is the next meeting 6pm
> next Monday?
> Thanks,
> Clare
>
> On 30 August 2011 21:18, rhydwyn beta <rhydwyn.beta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would love that, as I am just starting with pytest
>>
>> Rhydwyn
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 30, 2011, Noon Silk <noonslists at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Richard Jones <r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Sorry for the late notice. Bit worn out post-PyCon AU :-)
>> >>
>> >> The next meeting is next week. We'll probably talk a bunch about the
>> >> conference and things that popped up there. The wiki talk list is
>> >> empty - please suggest something! I have a couple of talks on the back
>> >> burner, and will probably talk a bit about PyPy's recent release. Not
>> >> guaranteeing anything though :-)
>> >>
>> >> As usual the details, including talk signup, are at http://j.mp/mpug
>> >
>> > I could maybe give a very short talk on some problems I've found with
>> > python unit testing frameworks, to maybe save some people some
>> > troubles (or learn where I've gone wrong :)
>> >
>> >
>> >> ? ?Richard
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> >> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>> >
>> > --
>> > Noon Silk
>> >
>> > Fancy a quantum lunch?
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en
>> >
>> > "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy
>> > of being this signature."
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > melbourne-pug mailing list
>> > melbourne-pug at python.org
>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>



-- 
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http://myownhat.blogspot.com/
"Don't believe everything you think"