From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 23:33:58 2009 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:33:58 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created Message-ID: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59918958226 Hi all, I have taken the liberty of creating a Facebook group for MPUG so that any interested members can take advantage of its facilities. I realise not everyone will like using Facebook, and I will undertake to cross-post anything of particular relevance (i.e. any events or job postings) from Facebook to the MPUG mailing list in order to protect the relevance of the mailman list. I have also updated the MPUG page on http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG . I felt that the addition of the Facebook group might help to stimulate additional interest in Python for anyone based in Melbourne. In due course, I would love to look into re-starting face-to-face events, but for the time being I think we need to re-build some momentum for the group. Forgive me for doing so on my own initiative, but due to the group inactivity I felt that it was reasonably appropriate for me to do so. Apologies if I have upset any stakeholders in the group, but I do hope this will help Python developers in Melbourne to connect and find colleagues and conversation partners in their local areas. Regards, -Tennessee -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miles.chris at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 23:46:42 2009 From: miles.chris at gmail.com (Chris Miles) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:46:42 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <57D8B972-1340-4C2B-AA79-475B433466A4@gmail.com> On 26/03/2009, at 9:33 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59918958226 > > I felt that the addition of the Facebook group might help to > stimulate additional interest in Python for anyone based in > Melbourne. In due course, I would love to look into re-starting face- > to-face events, but for the time being I think we need to re-build > some momentum for the group. Forgive me for doing so on my own > initiative, but due to the group inactivity I felt that it was > reasonably appropriate for me to do so. Apologies if I have upset > any stakeholders in the group, but I do hope this will help Python > developers in Melbourne to connect and find colleagues and > conversation partners in their local areas. Good call. Anything to help promote the group and hopefully kickstart some activity in a community that appears to have stagnated. It would be great if someone could take the initiative to organise meetups again. I moved back from London roughly a year ago where, in the course of the 6 years that I was there, the London Python group had grown from a relatively small (5-6 people) pub meetup to a much more respectable (20-30) and more organised event hosted at Thoughtworks with local speakers (followed by pub of course). I was hoping the Melbourne group might be just as active, given the high calibre of Aus-based Pythonistas. (I know - why don't I get off my ass and organise meetups? I'm hopeless at that sort of thing. Much better at attending and drinking the beer and helping to make it interesting) Cheers, Chris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Wed Mar 25 23:57:13 2009 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:57:13 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <57D8B972-1340-4C2B-AA79-475B433466A4@gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <57D8B972-1340-4C2B-AA79-475B433466A4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43c8685c0903251557j2cd896ebq5a62c06f3734d9ba@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Chris Miles wrote: > > On 26/03/2009, at 9:33 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59918958226 > I felt that the addition of the Facebook group might help to stimulate > additional interest in Python for anyone based in Melbourne. In due course, > I would love to look into re-starting face-to-face events, but for the time > being I think we need to re-build some momentum for the group. Forgive me > for doing so on my own initiative, but due to the group inactivity I felt > that it was reasonably appropriate for me to do so. Apologies if I have > upset any stakeholders in the group, but I do hope this will help Python > developers in Melbourne to connect and find colleagues and conversation > partners in their local areas. > > > Good call. Anything to help promote the group and hopefully kickstart some > activity in a community that appears to have stagnated. > > It would be great if someone could take the initiative to organise meetups > again. I moved back from London roughly a year ago where, in the course of > the 6 years that I was there, the London Python group had grown from a > relatively small (5-6 people) pub meetup to a much more respectable (20-30) > and more organised event hosted at Thoughtworks with local speakers > (followed by pub of course). I was hoping the Melbourne group might be just > as active, given the high calibre of Aus-based Pythonistas. > I think it would help if we had a good local sponsoring organisation. If there was a business which would provide a seminar room and free pizza once every couple of months, I think that would go a long way. The great Melbourne-based Pythoneers who I know also all have family responsibilities (and very busy lives) which I think makes it difficult to get momentum. Sydney is blessed with the Google office, which provides the venue, free food AND a core interest group who are there anyway, right in the heart of the CBD. The organisations that I know of which use Python tend to be inner suburban rather than CBD central. There is an active LUV and another active open-source group, but it's pretty Perl-centric. This is just because the Melbourne Perl developers are less lazy than the Python developers, so I'm not complaining mind. However, I think if we get enough people in the Facebook group, with photos and active profiles, it might help to simulate some more confidence in the group amongst members who are uncertain as to whether there is actually a vibrant group here or not. So -- join up! ;) Cheers, -T -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From minnov at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 00:04:51 2009 From: minnov at gmail.com (Mohamed Barwani) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:04:51 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <43c8685c0903251557j2cd896ebq5a62c06f3734d9ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <57D8B972-1340-4C2B-AA79-475B433466A4@gmail.com> <43c8685c0903251557j2cd896ebq5a62c06f3734d9ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205b41740903251604s15e46a18ob3d4c3e7a7011ed5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Chris Miles wrote: >> >> On 26/03/2009, at 9:33 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59918958226 >> I felt that the addition of the Facebook group might help to stimulate >> additional interest in Python for anyone based in Melbourne. In due course, >> I would love to look into re-starting face-to-face events, but for the time >> being I think we need to re-build some momentum for the group. Forgive me >> for doing so on my own initiative, but due to the group inactivity I felt >> that it was reasonably appropriate for me to do so. Apologies if I have >> upset any stakeholders in the group, but I do hope this will help Python >> developers in Melbourne to connect and find colleagues and conversation >> partners in their local areas. >> >> Good call. ?Anything to help promote the group and hopefully kickstart >> some activity in a community that appears to have stagnated. >> It would be great if someone could take the initiative to organise meetups >> again. ?I moved back from London roughly a year ago where, in the course of >> the 6 years that I was there, the London Python group had grown from a >> relatively small (5-6 people) pub meetup to a much more respectable (20-30) >> and more organised event hosted at Thoughtworks with local speakers >> (followed by pub of course). ?I was hoping the Melbourne group might be just >> as active, given the high calibre of Aus-based Pythonistas. > > I think it would help if we had a good local sponsoring organisation. If > there was a business which would provide a seminar room and free pizza once > every couple of months, I think that would go a long way. > The great Melbourne-based Pythoneers who I know also all have family > responsibilities (and very busy lives) which I think makes it difficult to > get momentum. Sydney is blessed with the Google office, which provides the > venue, free food AND a core interest group who are there anyway, right in > the heart of the CBD. The organisations that I know of which use Python tend > to be inner suburban rather than CBD central. There is an active LUV and > another active open-source group, but it's pretty Perl-centric. This is just > because the Melbourne Perl developers are less lazy than the Python > developers, so I'm not complaining mind. > However, I think if we get enough people in the Facebook group, with photos > and active profiles, it might help to simulate some more confidence in the > group amongst members who are uncertain as to whether there is actually a > vibrant group here or not. So -- join up! ;) > Cheers, > -T Well am somewhat a newbie in python, but almost all of my side projects are python based. Am new to the group too, but if my opinion carries, I like the idea of starting up small and see how we go. A pub with a small number of people that grows up to a more credible number seems doable, it might create interest later on for an organization to sponsor a location. I shall join the facebook group sometime tonight.. cheers -- Democracy divides people into workers and loafers. It makes no provision for those who have no time to work. Karl Kraus From miles.chris at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 00:15:45 2009 From: miles.chris at gmail.com (Chris Miles) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:15:45 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <205b41740903251604s15e46a18ob3d4c3e7a7011ed5@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <57D8B972-1340-4C2B-AA79-475B433466A4@gmail.com> <43c8685c0903251557j2cd896ebq5a62c06f3734d9ba@mail.gmail.com> <205b41740903251604s15e46a18ob3d4c3e7a7011ed5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <82DB136C-05C5-4020-9FCA-0ECD3E277E2E@gmail.com> On 26/03/2009, at 10:04 AM, Mohamed Barwani wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg > wrote: >> I think it would help if we had a good local sponsoring >> organisation. If >> there was a business which would provide a seminar room and free >> pizza once >> every couple of months, I think that would go a long way. >> The great Melbourne-based Pythoneers who I know also all have family >> responsibilities (and very busy lives) which I think makes it >> difficult to >> get momentum. Sydney is blessed with the Google office, which >> provides the >> venue, free food AND a core interest group who are there anyway, >> right in >> the heart of the CBD. The organisations that I know of which use >> Python tend >> to be inner suburban rather than CBD central. There is an active >> LUV and >> another active open-source group, but it's pretty Perl-centric. >> This is just >> because the Melbourne Perl developers are less lazy than the Python >> developers, so I'm not complaining mind. >> However, I think if we get enough people in the Facebook group, >> with photos >> and active profiles, it might help to simulate some more confidence >> in the >> group amongst members who are uncertain as to whether there is >> actually a >> vibrant group here or not. So -- join up! ;) >> Cheers, >> -T > > Well am somewhat a newbie in python, but almost all of my side > projects are python based. Am new to the group too, but if my opinion > carries, I like the idea of starting up small and see how we go. A pub > with a small number of people that grows up to a more credible number > seems doable, it might create interest later on for an organization to > sponsor a location. I agree. A local business to sponsor and host meetups would be great, but I don't think it is necessary. Simple, social meetups at a pub or cafe where people can simply meet and talk is the way to start. If the group is active enough then businesses will show interest as they know a good opportunity to both promote and recruit when they see one. Cheers, Chris From minnov at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 01:41:31 2009 From: minnov at gmail.com (Mohamed Barwani) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:41:31 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] doctest: can you distinguish between a test & a variable setting? Message-ID: <205b41740903251741n27eaf72due3472807e1ca0c65@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I like doctest but when you have complex arguments that you need to set before you pass to a function it become really hard to read.. Hence, you start using multiple lines assigning then calling the function that you would like to test.. This approach however, will report that you have multiple tests rather then the real number of tests that you have.. An example will illustrate what I mean.. def returnme(x): """ Returns what you pass >>> y = (2, 3, 5, 7) >>> returnme(y) (2, 3, 5, 7) """ return x In the above snippet, there is only one test and the other is just a variable assignment, however, this is what gets reported.. Trying: y = (2, 3, 5, 7) Expecting nothing ok Trying: returnme(y) Expecting: (2, 3, 5, 7) ok 2 tests in 2 items. 2 passed and 0 failed. I've looked at the flags documented, surely I missing something.. -- Democracy divides people into workers and loafers. It makes no provision for those who have no time to work. Karl Kraus From skippy.hammond at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 00:22:53 2009 From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:22:53 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49CABCCD.5000706@gmail.com> On 26/03/2009 9:33 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59918958226 I think it is a nice idea, but sadly I have vowed to not create accounts on facebook, myspace or the like. So please do try and ensure anything worthwhile goes both to the facebook group and the mailing list. Good luck! Mark From richardjones at optushome.com.au Thu Mar 26 03:12:19 2009 From: richardjones at optushome.com.au (Richard Jones) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:12:19 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <49CABCCD.5000706@gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <49CABCCD.5000706@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39679496-60CA-488E-91AB-6ECB36388153@optushome.com.au> On 26/03/2009, at 10:22 AM, Mark Hammond wrote: > On 26/03/2009 9:33 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59918958226 > > I think it is a nice idea, but sadly I have vowed to not create > accounts on facebook, myspace or the like. So please do try and > ensure anything worthwhile goes both to the facebook group and the > mailing list. I tend to agree. My facebook account is used almost exclusively for work. Getting together for a beer sounds like a bloody good idea. Richard From jimmy.briggs at gmail.com Thu Mar 26 03:55:59 2009 From: jimmy.briggs at gmail.com (James Briggs) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:55:59 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <39679496-60CA-488E-91AB-6ECB36388153@optushome.com.au> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <49CABCCD.5000706@gmail.com> <39679496-60CA-488E-91AB-6ECB36388153@optushome.com.au> Message-ID: <23b1b67f0903251955x23ab97aaybb5ae6b703ad3abd@mail.gmail.com> I agree with the previous comments - stay with the mail list, and a get together would be great. Jimmy On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Richard Jones < richardjones at optushome.com.au> wrote: > On 26/03/2009, at 10:22 AM, Mark Hammond wrote: > >> On 26/03/2009 9:33 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: >> >>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59918958226 >>> >> >> I think it is a nice idea, but sadly I have vowed to not create accounts >> on facebook, myspace or the like. So please do try and ensure anything >> worthwhile goes both to the facebook group and the mailing list. >> > > I tend to agree. My facebook account is used almost exclusively for work. > > Getting together for a beer sounds like a bloody good idea. > > > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lljy at csse.unimelb.edu.au Thu Mar 26 23:40:55 2009 From: lljy at csse.unimelb.edu.au (Lars Yencken) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:40:55 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] doctest: can you distinguish between a test & a variable setting? In-Reply-To: <205b41740903251741n27eaf72due3472807e1ca0c65@mail.gmail.com> References: <205b41740903251741n27eaf72due3472807e1ca0c65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <313fdf960903261540r54fb6a67q488db532042be981@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mohamed, 2009/3/26 Mohamed Barwani > def returnme(x): > """ > Returns what you pass > > >>> y = (2, 3, 5, 7) > >>> returnme(y) > (2, 3, 5, 7) > """ > return x > > In the above snippet, there is only one test and the other is just a > variable assignment, however, this is what gets reported.. > > Trying: > y = (2, 3, 5, 7) > Expecting nothing > ok > Trying: > returnme(y) > Expecting: > (2, 3, 5, 7) > ok > > 2 tests in 2 items. > 2 passed and 0 failed. This is what you get when you run doctest.testmod(verbose=True) You can also instead use: suite = doctest.DocTestSuite() unittest.TextTestRunner().run(suite) when you do this, you'll find only one test was registered by your example. . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ran 1 test in 0.006s OK You're getting the extra stuff printed out just because you're asking doctest to think out aloud with the verbose flag. Try using unittest to run the tests instead. Cheers, Lars -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From minnov at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 00:07:05 2009 From: minnov at gmail.com (Mohamed Barwani) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:07:05 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] doctest: can you distinguish between a test & a variable setting? In-Reply-To: <313fdf960903261540r54fb6a67q488db532042be981@mail.gmail.com> References: <205b41740903251741n27eaf72due3472807e1ca0c65@mail.gmail.com> <313fdf960903261540r54fb6a67q488db532042be981@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205b41740903261607s70252454sff1db81fe177180@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Lars Yencken wrote: > Hi Mohamed, > > > This is what you get when you run > > doctest.testmod(verbose=True) > The verbosity doesn't really affect the outcome. It was suggested that I use the "..." to continue a line and thus have one test.. for exampele def foo(bar): """ >>> setup = ['something'] ... foo(setup) ... EXPECTED """ [rest of your function] > You can also instead use: > > suite = doctest.DocTestSuite() > unittest.TextTestRunner().run(suite) > Oh good idea. Am currently trying to evaluate both doctest & unittest.. It might be a good idea to have them both.. Thanks for you suggestion.. cheers -- Democracy divides people into workers and loafers. It makes no provision for those who have no time to work. Karl Kraus From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 04:11:31 2009 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:11:31 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <313fdf960903261557o75c4b4a0wb1e0659ff1844494@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <49CABCCD.5000706@gmail.com> <39679496-60CA-488E-91AB-6ECB36388153@optushome.com.au> <23b1b67f0903251955x23ab97aaybb5ae6b703ad3abd@mail.gmail.com> <313fdf960903261557o75c4b4a0wb1e0659ff1844494@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43c8685c0903262011g6fdfef7fl6547561ad30fc2f7@mail.gmail.com> I vote for a Tuesday or a Thursday with equal weighting. Cheers, -T On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Lars Yencken wrote: > Sounds good. If I set up a quick Doodle poll, will people be happy to pick > a weeknight (Mon-Thu) in April? > > Cheers, > Lars > > 2009/3/26 James Briggs > >> I agree with the previous comments - stay with the mail list, and a get >> together would be great. >> >> Jimmy > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Lars 2009/3/27 Tennessee Leeuwenburg > I vote for a Tuesday or a Thursday with equal weighting. > > Cheers, > -T > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Lars Yencken wrote: > >> Sounds good. If I set up a quick Doodle poll, will people be happy to pick >> a weeknight (Mon-Thu) in April? >> >> Cheers, >> Lars >> >> 2009/3/26 James Briggs >> >>> I agree with the previous comments - stay with the mail list, and a get >>> together would be great. >>> >>> Jimmy >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> >> > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From lljy at csse.unimelb.edu.au Mon Mar 30 08:04:10 2009 From: lljy at csse.unimelb.edu.au (Lars Yencken) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:04:10 +1100 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Facebook group for MPUG created In-Reply-To: <313fdf960903262211y411e31e1q72772bd3ba712ae6@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <49CABCCD.5000706@gmail.com> <39679496-60CA-488E-91AB-6ECB36388153@optushome.com.au> <23b1b67f0903251955x23ab97aaybb5ae6b703ad3abd@mail.gmail.com> <313fdf960903261557o75c4b4a0wb1e0659ff1844494@mail.gmail.com> <43c8685c0903262011g6fdfef7fl6547561ad30fc2f7@mail.gmail.com> <313fdf960903262211y411e31e1q72772bd3ba712ae6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <313fdf960903292304sc212080g93063914a86ae6fa@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to everyone who's put in their availability. It looks like it will happen on a Tuesday, either: Tue 14th (11 votes) Tue 21st (11 votes) Tue 28th (10 votes) This will mean some folks can't make it this time, which was inevitable given our busy schedules. Sorry guys! Can anyone who's lurking but hasn't put their availability in put it in for these three days? If we don't have a clear winner by tomorrow, I'll randomly suggest we settle on Tue 21st. Cheers, Lars 2009/3/27 Lars Yencken > Ok, I've set up a quick poll: > > http://www.doodle.com/u8ryzi2ckv3uvysh > > Everyone please put in your vote there, and we'll find the evening which > has the most people that can make it. > > Cheers, > Lars > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swifteye2 at msn.com Tue Mar 31 12:21:40 2009 From: swifteye2 at msn.com (John Thorn) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:21:40 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] stackless python question In-Reply-To: <313fdf960903292304sc212080g93063914a86ae6fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <43c8685c0903251533l431aa581vd7157f223b1431e1@mail.gmail.com> <49CABCCD.5000706@gmail.com> <39679496-60CA-488E-91AB-6ECB36388153@optushome.com.au> <23b1b67f0903251955x23ab97aaybb5ae6b703ad3abd@mail.gmail.com> <313fdf960903261557o75c4b4a0wb1e0659ff1844494@mail.gmail.com> <43c8685c0903262011g6fdfef7fl6547561ad30fc2f7@mail.gmail.com> <313fdf960903262211y411e31e1q72772bd3ba712ae6@mail.gmail.com> <313fdf960903292304sc212080g93063914a86ae6fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello I am a beginner at Python. My question: What advantages does Stackless python have over normal python? If the concurrent programming of stackless python IS faster, then why wasn't python stackless in the first place? 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