 tags
and "made" textrual (i.e.  made into >p<)

is there a way to get the text/html response in actual
html instead of a source-made (mostly useless) text?

thanks for any advice
g.k.

From mark at msapiro.net  Mon Sep 23 09:18:16 2019
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 06:18:16 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-Users] html message viewed as attachment
In-Reply-To: <1533378259.7663551.1569242087397@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1533378259.7663551.1569242087397.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1533378259.7663551.1569242087397@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: 

On September 23, 2019 5:34:47 AM PDT, karrageorgiou giannis via Mailman-Users  wrote:

>
>is there a way to get the text/html response in actual
>html instead of a source-made (mostly useless) text?

Set ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 3 in mm_cfg.py, but before you do, read the description of this setting in Defaults.py for reasons why you may not want to do that.

-- 
Mark Sapiro 
Sent from my Not_an_iThing with standards compliant, open source software.

From softwareinfojam at gmail.com  Mon Sep 23 12:43:47 2019
From: softwareinfojam at gmail.com (Peter Fraser)
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:43:47 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Global Bounce Settings
Message-ID: <5d88f640.1c69fb81.900d0.bb6a@mx.google.com>

Hi All
I was wondering, is there a way to globally set the ?bounce score threshold? to 1.0 and the ?bounce you are disabled warnings? to 0 for all my mailing lists. I shudder at having to go into all of them individually and set this. There are a lot. Thanks so much for any help received.

Regards
SI

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From mark at msapiro.net  Tue Sep 24 11:06:34 2019
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 08:06:34 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Global Bounce Settings
In-Reply-To: <5d88f640.1c69fb81.900d0.bb6a@mx.google.com>
References: <5d88f640.1c69fb81.900d0.bb6a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <70897810-b9f5-f32f-7b92-827392110c70@msapiro.net>

On 9/23/19 9:43 AM, Peter Fraser wrote:
> Hi All
> I was wondering, is there a way to globally set the ?bounce score threshold? to 1.0 and the ?bounce you are disabled warnings? to 0 for all my mailing lists. I shudder at having to go into all of them individually and set this. There are a lot. Thanks so much for any help received.

If you have shell access to the Mailman installation, there are multiple
ways to script this.

One way is to create a withlist script like

def set_bounce(mlist):
    if not mlist.Locked():
        mlist.Lock()
    mlist.bounce_score_threshold = 1.0
    mlist.bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0
    mlist.Save()
    mlist.Unlock()

save it as set_bounce.py in Mailman's bin/ directory and run

bin/withlist -a -r set_bounce

-- 
Mark Sapiro         The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From softwareinfojam at gmail.com  Tue Sep 24 12:45:31 2019
From: softwareinfojam at gmail.com (Peter Fraser)
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:45:31 -0500
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Global Bounce Settings
In-Reply-To: <70897810-b9f5-f32f-7b92-827392110c70@msapiro.net>
References: <5d88f640.1c69fb81.900d0.bb6a@mx.google.com>
 <70897810-b9f5-f32f-7b92-827392110c70@msapiro.net>
Message-ID: <5d8a482b.1c69fb81.7e916.50a1@mx.google.com>

Fantastic. Worked perfectly. Thanks so much.

From: Mark Sapiro
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:07 AM
To: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Global Bounce Settings

On 9/23/19 9:43 AM, Peter Fraser wrote:
> Hi All
> I was wondering, is there a way to globally set the ?bounce score threshold? to 1.0 and the ?bounce you are disabled warnings? to 0 for all my mailing lists. I shudder at having to go into all of them individually and set this. There are a lot. Thanks so much for any help received.

If you have shell access to the Mailman installation, there are multiple
ways to script this.

One way is to create a withlist script like

def set_bounce(mlist):
    if not mlist.Locked():
        mlist.Lock()
    mlist.bounce_score_threshold = 1.0
    mlist.bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings = 0
    mlist.Save()
    mlist.Unlock()

save it as set_bounce.py in Mailman's bin/ directory and run

bin/withlist -a -r set_bounce

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San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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From jaybird at bluegrasspals.com  Wed Sep 25 10:04:18 2019
From: jaybird at bluegrasspals.com (Jayson Smith)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:04:18 -0400
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Totally disable list subscriptions?
Message-ID: <8c894219-7e6a-f53c-dbbd-5e07c96ce0f4@bluegrasspals.com>

Hi,

For years I ran a Mailman list on my own server, until it obviously 
became too much of a load for certain ISPs to think I was sending 
legitimate Email. The final straw was when Microsoft blacklisted my IP 
from sending to all of their Email services (Hotmail, live.com, Outlook, 
etc.). I decided to move that heavy traffic list to groups.io. Still, I 
wanted there to be a placeholder at the list's old URL that would tell 
people the list has moved, and where to find it. For this reason, I 
created a new, empty, dummy list with the old list's name, and set 
subscriptions to require moderator approval. I have a Milter set up to 
block all inbound mail to the list's old addresses with a 551 failure 
message giving the URL of the new list. However, from time to time 
someone will subscribe via the web, so I still need to reject their 
subscriptions and point them to the new location. Is there any way in 
Mailman to outright disable any and all subscription attempts for a 
specific list?

Thanks,

Jayson

From mark at msapiro.net  Wed Sep 25 10:17:14 2019
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 07:17:14 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Totally disable list subscriptions?
In-Reply-To: <8c894219-7e6a-f53c-dbbd-5e07c96ce0f4@bluegrasspals.com>
References: <8c894219-7e6a-f53c-dbbd-5e07c96ce0f4@bluegrasspals.com>
Message-ID: 

On 9/25/19 7:04 AM, Jayson Smith wrote:
> 
> Is there any way in
> Mailman to outright disable any and all subscription attempts for a
> specific list?

Set a regexp that matches anything in Privacy options... -> Subscription
rules -> ban_list.  E.g.,

^.*$

However, this will only send a generic "banned" message to the address.

Instead of a dummy list, you could just create a static web page at the
list's URLs to say what you want or maybe just redirect those URLs to
the new location.

-- 
Mark Sapiro         The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From Peter.Heitzer at rz.uni-regensburg.de  Wed Sep 25 10:12:21 2019
From: Peter.Heitzer at rz.uni-regensburg.de (Peter Heitzer)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:12:21 +0200
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to detect if a new list is created
Message-ID: <5D8B75C50200002C00053EBC@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>

Is there a simple method to detect if a new list was created?
As mailman updates the alias file (/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases in our installation) with any new list I thought of 
checking the modify date of the aliases file.
Is this a sufficient method?

----
Dipl.-Inform(FH) Peter Heitzer, peter.heitzer at rz.uni-regensburg.de

From mark at msapiro.net  Wed Sep 25 10:27:17 2019
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 07:27:17 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to detect if a new list is created
In-Reply-To: <5D8B75C50200002C00053EBC@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
References: <5D8B75C50200002C00053EBC@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
Message-ID: <89a565c2-73c0-11b7-07c0-a2a41ae1f698@msapiro.net>

On 9/25/19 7:12 AM, Peter Heitzer wrote:
> Is there a simple method to detect if a new list was created?
> As mailman updates the alias file (/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases in our installation) with any new list I thought of 
> checking the modify date of the aliases file.
> Is this a sufficient method?

It should work, or you could check the mod date of Mailman's lists/
directory.

What I would do is save the output of an 'ls' of Mailman's lists/
directory and set up a cron to 'ls' the directory, compare it to the
saved 'ls' and if different, update the saved 'ls' and email me.

-- 
Mark Sapiro         The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From henry at aegis00.com  Wed Sep 25 14:45:31 2019
From: henry at aegis00.com (Henry Yen)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:45:31 -0400
Subject: [Mailman-Users] nomail/A versus monthly reminder
Message-ID: <20190925184520.GS9462@nntp.AegisInfoSys.com>

Hello. Mailman 2.1.23 package on Debian 7.

If a subscriber's nomail flag is set by admin, does monthly subscription
info/reminder message still get sent to that subscriber? There's one
subscriber on a list that, although we don't want to actually unsubscribe,
for the time being must not receive any emails whatsoever from the list.

Where would I read up more on this?

Thanks so much.

From mark at msapiro.net  Wed Sep 25 17:22:58 2019
From: mark at msapiro.net (Mark Sapiro)
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:22:58 -0700
Subject: [Mailman-Users] nomail/A versus monthly reminder
In-Reply-To: <20190925184520.GS9462@nntp.AegisInfoSys.com>
References: <20190925184520.GS9462@nntp.AegisInfoSys.com>
Message-ID: <98d7c9a9-f0bf-00c6-1e6f-b7d42afb9ef6@msapiro.net>

On 9/25/19 11:45 AM, Henry Yen wrote:
> Hello. Mailman 2.1.23 package on Debian 7.
> 
> If a subscriber's nomail flag is set by admin, does monthly subscription
> info/reminder message still get sent to that subscriber? There's one
> subscriber on a list that, although we don't want to actually unsubscribe,
> for the time being must not receive any emails whatsoever from the list.

It does not affect reminders.

> Where would I read up more on this?

Go to the admin Membership List, find the user and click the address to
go to the user's options page and set "Get password reminder email for
this list?" to No.

-- 
Mark Sapiro         The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

From jaybird at bluegrasspals.com  Fri Sep 27 06:59:06 2019
From: jaybird at bluegrasspals.com (Jayson Smith)
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 06:59:06 -0400
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Totally disable list subscriptions?
In-Reply-To: <0c9701d573aa$f85e6cb0$e91b4610$@emwd.com>
References: <8c894219-7e6a-f53c-dbbd-5e07c96ce0f4@bluegrasspals.com>
 <0c9701d573aa$f85e6cb0$e91b4610$@emwd.com>
Message-ID: 

Hi,

To clarify, I did get off Microsoft's blacklist, but after I did I 
decided that particular list was probably too high traffic.

Jayson

On 9/25/2019 10:10 AM, Brian Carpenter wrote:
> Are they subscribing via the listinfo page? If so then you can edit that
> page via the list admin interface and remove the subscription form.
>
> Also getting off of Microsoft's blacklist is not hard to do. It certainly
> would have been easier than all the trouble you are going through now.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Brian Carpenter
> EMWD.com
> brian at emwd.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mailman-Users  On
> Behalf Of Jayson Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:04 AM
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Totally disable list subscriptions?
>
> Hi,
>
>
> For years I ran a Mailman list on my own server, until it obviously
> became too much of a load for certain ISPs to think I was sending
> legitimate Email. The final straw was when Microsoft blacklisted my IP
> from sending to all of their Email services (Hotmail, live.com, Outlook,
> etc.). I decided to move that heavy traffic list to groups.io. Still, I
> wanted there to be a placeholder at the list's old URL that would tell
> people the list has moved, and where to find it. For this reason, I
> created a new, empty, dummy list with the old list's name, and set
> subscriptions to require moderator approval. I have a Milter set up to
> block all inbound mail to the list's old addresses with a 551 failure
> message giving the URL of the new list. However, from time to time
> someone will subscribe via the web, so I still need to reject their
> subscriptions and point them to the new location. Is there any way in
> Mailman to outright disable any and all subscription attempts for a
> specific list?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Jayson
>
>
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From boardtc at gmail.com  Mon Sep 30 11:58:35 2019
From: boardtc at gmail.com (Tom Corcoran)
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:58:35 +0100
Subject: [Mailman-Users] How to stop auto discarding when whitelisted and
 automatic discarding set to 0?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Apologies if this is a FAQ but I could not find the info.

I have some mailing lists setup on cpanel. One address I have added to my
whitelist in spamassain. I also have no auto discard set, with "Discard
held messages older than this number of days. Use 0 for no automatic
discarding." set to 0.

However, emails from this address come in as auto discarded.

I'd like to prevent that in the future and have the email delivered as
normal.

Is there an additional setting I need to configure?

Thanks!