[Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting it.

[Joly MacFie]

There would still be a confirmation step.



On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 5:39 PM, List Manager <listown at nanniandjack.com>
wrote:

> Steve-
>
> Just a thought, but since the "unsubscribe link" has been part of the
> output of your list, it is possible that someone other than the
> recipient sees the link and clicks on it, either in malice or error
> (trying to unsubscribe themselves)
> --
> Jack Hill, W4KH - BoatAnchors Listowner/Archiver
> listown at nanniandjack.com
> "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose"
> "Il n'y a que les idiots qui ne changent jamais d'idee"
>
>  On 2017-08-19 10:00, Steve Wehr wrote:
>
> > That's the best theory I have heard so far to explain the facts.
> >
> > The user's in question, who are being unsubscribed without asking to be,
> are people who like the mailing lists they are on, and would not be
> flagging emails from the list as spam. Now their ISP might, but they
> wouldn't. The list owners swear to me that these people are friends who
> want their emails.
> >
> > Some further info... I was including a link at the bottom of all emails
> sent by mailman (in the msg_footer field:
> > "Click this link to unsubscribe:
> > %(user_optionsurl)s?password=%(user_password)s&unsub=1&unsubconfirm=1"
> >
> > I thought perhaps users were accidentally clicking this and unsubscribing
> > themselves, so I have removed the "&unsubconfirm=1" part of the URL so
> they will have to manually confirm.
> >
> > Maybe this would foil ISPs who are automatically following this link to
> > unsubscribe people. Do ISPs really do this?
> >
> > _____________________
> > Steve Wehr
> > Tunedin Web Design
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Seyffarth [mailto:weif at weif.net]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 10:55 AM
> > To: Steve Wehr
> > Cc: mailman-users at python.org
> > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Users being unsubscribed without requesting
> it.
> >
> > "Steve Wehr" <steve at tunedinweb.com> writes:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >> The problem is that when contacted, these users swear they DID NOT
> >> unsubscribe themselves. So how can they be getting unsubscribed (with
> >> messages in the logs like the one above) but they are not going to the
> >> member options page and unsubscribing??
> >
> > One possibility would be that they are marking these messages as "Junk"
> > or "Spam" and their ESP/ISP, either through a manual or automated
> process,
> > is following the unsubscribe link in the email to remove them from the
> > list...
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