[Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

Jim Dory james at dorydesign.com
Thu Jun 16 17:39:16 EDT 2016


We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements
with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it
for public service announcements, people use it for selling/trading
virtually anything (seal oil, outboards, guns, blue berries, you name it)
and is by subscription only.

If someone is not a member, they cannot post. When a member posts, it goes
to all others subscribers.

Any suggestions on how to answer this:

Here is the threat (hopefully I've removed personal emails from it):

Hello,

These cross promotion posts from your mailing list will need to cease or we
will not host you any further. We have mounting complaints from AOL, Yahoo
and Hotmail with some of which are now blocking the server you're on
specifically because of your mailings. This is not isolated to a single set
of users complaining it's a large amount that is enough for these providers
to take action. Here's an example of Hotmail complaining today:

X-HmXmrOriginalRecipient: < <tylerwcase at hotmail.com>snip>
X-Reporter-IP: 72.169.153.180
X-Message-Guid: e33ffe03-30cf-11e6-80b9-00215ad73ee2
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k6HwMHyTEbaui0SFrS8NYUVpqQ8zI3RRBiLXYw949+B
Authentication-Results: hotmail.com; spf=pass (sender IP is 198.252.106.58)
smtp.mailfrom=nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com; dkim=pass header.d=
nomekennelclub.com; x-hmca=pass header.id=
nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com
X-SID-PRA: nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com
X-AUTH-Result: PASS
X-SID-Result: PASS
X-Message-Status: n:n
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Received: from lax022.relay.arandomserver.com ([198.252.106.58]) by
COL004-MC1F11.hotmail.com <http://col004-mc1f11.hotmail.com/> over TLS
secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23143);
Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:15 -0700
Received: from lax203.hawkhost.com ([198.252.106.68])
by se003.arandomserver.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256)
(Exim 4.85)
(envelope-from <nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com>)
id 1bCAcC-0005mK-IL; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:00:11 -0500
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=nomekennelclub.com; s=default; h=Sender:List-Subscribe:List-
Help:List-Post:
List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:Content-Transfer-
Encoding:Content-Type:
MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Cc:Content-ID:
Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-
Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc
:Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Owner;
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by lax203.hawkhost.com with esmtp (Exim 4.87)
(envelope-from <nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com>)
id 1bCAc7-000pSR-SI; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:03 -0700
From: nome-announce-request at nomekennelclub.com
Subject: Nome-announce Digest, Vol 50, Issue 29
To: nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com
Reply-To: nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:00:01 -0700
Message-ID: <
mailman.1.1465758001.197313.nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com at nomekennelclub.com
>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-BeenThere: nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20
Precedence: list
List-Id: <nome-announce.nomekennelclub.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <
http://nomekennelclub.com/mailman/options/nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com>,
<mailto:nome-announce-request at nomekennelclub.com?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <
http://nomekennelclub.com/mailman/private/nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com/>
List-Post: <mailto:nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com>
List-Help: <mailto:nome-announce-request at nomekennelclub.com?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <
http://nomekennelclub.com/mailman/listinfo/nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com
>,
<mailto:nome-announce-request at nomekennelclub.com?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com
Sender: "Nome-announce" <nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com>
<snip>
X-Report-Abuse-To: spam at se001.arandomserver.com
X-Originating-IP: 198.252.106.68
X-SpamExperts-Domain: lax203.hawkhost.com
X-SpamExperts-Username: relay
Authentication-Results: arandomserver.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=
relay at lax203.hawkhost.com
X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Class: ham
X-SpamExperts-Outgoing-Evidence: SB/global_tokens (0.000514464687739)
X-Recommended-Action: accept
Return-Path: nome-announce-bounces at nomekennelclub.com
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2016 19:00:15.0312 (UTC)
FILETIME=[A789A500:01D1C4DC]

Send Nome-announce mailing list submissions to
nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
http://nomekennelclub.com/mailman/listinfo/nome-announce_nomekennelclub.com

or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
nome-announce-request at nomekennelclub.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
nome-announce-owner at nomekennelclub.com

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of Nome-announce digest..."

AOL:

Subject:
[NA] New/unused 2014 90hp Evinrude e-Rec for sale
From:
Roy Ashenfelter via Nome-announce <nome-announce at nomekennelclub.com>
Date:
6/13/2016 3:54 AM
To:

redacted at nomekennelclub.com
Return-Path:
<redacted-bounces at nomekennelclub.com>
Received:
from lax022.relay.arandomserver.com (lax022.relay.arandomserver.com
[198.252.106.58])
(using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client
certificate requested) by mtaig-aae04.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with
ESMTPS id BADDB700000AC; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:32:39 -0400 (EDT)
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esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <
redacted-bounces at nomekennelclub.com>) id 1bCMi8-0000Z9-I7; Mon, 13 Jun 2016
02:55:07 -0500
DKIM-Signature:
v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomekennelclub.com;
s=default; h=Sender:Reply-To:From:List-Subscribe: List-Help:List-Post:List-
Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:Subject: MIME-Version:Content-Type:
Message-ID:Date:To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-
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esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from
<redacted at live.com>) id 1bCMi2-001Xug-Jh for redacted at nomekennelclub.com;
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Received:
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New/unused 2014 90hp Evinrude e-Rec for sale
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<snip>
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198.252.106.68
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lax203.hawkhost.com
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None from Yahoo they've blocked us entirely.


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