[Mailman-Users] Users complain, they don't receive mails from the list

Sascha Rissel mailman at rissel.it
Mon Jan 25 18:27:15 EST 2016


Hi Mark!

> In simple terms, it claims your mail server is not properly configured.
> I don't know what your Mailman server's domain name is, but it appears
> from the error message that its IP is 62.75.175.182 and that IP has an
> rDNS PTR record to euve51864.serverprofi24.de.

this is all pretty correct.

"euve51864.serverprofi24.de" is the natural name of the vServer, I am
running.
I don't have a real domain configured, since I mainly just use it for
mailman.
I configured all Mailman lists to use something like <list name>@rc-worms.de,
where <rc-worms.de> is the www domain of my sports club, whose
administrator I am.
For better readability I named and configured all lists this way, to use <
members at rc-worms.de>, <team1 at rc-worms.de> as exlicity reply-to address and
so on.

This worked pretty well for years.
Did it now turn into a problem, that reply-to address and domain () bear a
different IP/rDNS result?
Is there something you could suggest in this case?

Should I maybe configure a subdomain on my vServer, like <lists.rc-worms.de>,
from which the mails will be send from and can bear own DNS config?

Kind regards,
Sascha.




2016-01-26 0:11 GMT+01:00 Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>:

> On 01/25/2016 02:48 PM, Sascha Rissel wrote:
> >
> > thanks for your answer.
> > I just checked the bounce log.
> >
> > And I discovered a lot of entries like:
> >
> > Jan 25 18:33:24 2016 (2741) <BounceRunner at 12019976> processing 9
> queued
> > bounces
> > Jan 25 18:33:24 2016 (2741) <my-list-name>: <some mail address> already
> > scored a bounce for date 25-Jan-2016
> ...
> > where all mail addresses are from German Web.de and GMX. Both providers
> > belong to the same company.
> > Thinking about this, I remembered a bounce notification I received last
> > week, where some of these addresses were set to disabled by Mailman, with
> > the notification below.
> >
> > Did GMX/Web.de maybe change their mail processing policies with the start
> > of the new year?
>
>
> Possibly. See below.
>
>
> > Below follows an excerpt from the bounce notification.
> >
> > Bounce Mail:
> >
> > <some_user at web.de>: host mx-ha02.web.de[212.227.17.8] refused to talk
> >     to me: 554-web.de (mxweb107) Nemesis ESMTP Service not available
> 554-No
> >     SMTP service 554-Bad DNS PTR resource record. 554 For explanation
> visit
> >     http://postmaster.web.de/error-messages?ip=62.75.175.182&c=rdns
>
>
> OK. The recipient's mail exchange server is refusing your mail. web.de's
> explanation of this is at
> <http://postmaster.web.de/error-messages?ip=62.75.175.182&c=rdns#nordns>.
>
> In simple terms, it claims your mail server is not properly configured.
> I don't know what your Mailman server's domain name is, but it appears
> from the error message that its IP is 62.75.175.182 and that IP has an
> rDNS PTR record to euve51864.serverprofi24.de.
>
> In any case you need to ensure the IP address your server sends from has
> a rDNS (PTR) record pointing to its host name and that host name in turn
> needs an A record with the same IP address. Also, it should identify
> itself with this same name in the SMTP HELO or EHLO command.
>
> According to the tool at
> <
> http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=smtp%3a62.75.175.182&run=toolpage
> >,
> this is all OK, so I don't know why web.de is complaining. I suggest you
> use the form at
> <http://postmaster.web.de/en/contact/?ip=62.75.175.182&c=rdns> to ask
> them.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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