[Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 154, Issue 30

Tue Dec 20 08:11:41 EST 2016

We are a Google Apps for Education school so most of our employees and students are using gmail but with our own thet.net <http://thet.net/> domain. We have mx records for gmails servers and for our in house mailman server. Recently edited our DNS zones due to SPF record check failures. Also, recently had to change out IP block due to changes at our ISP. Here is the header info from a message that I got from our Dean. It got flagged as Spam somewhere along the way.

It should be noted that some of the lists below are umbrella lists.

{Spam?} [TA Admin] {Spam?} [Employees] {Spam?} [Claws] {Spam?} SNOWBALL IS CANCELLED FOR	TONIGHT
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> 
> From: Lindsay Haisley <fmouse at fmp.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] list mail increasingly flagged as spam
> Date: December 19, 2016 at 11:01:11 AM EST
> To: mailman-users at python.org
> Reply-To: fmouse at fmp.com
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2016-12-19 at 07:52 -0500, Glen Page wrote:
>> I have recently begun to see (and get complaints from some of my
>> users) our list messages being flagged on many users end as spam
>> messages. Wondering if there is anything that i can do on our end to
>> decrease the likelyhood of our messages being flagged as spam. If it
>> would help, I can send some header info from some of our messages.
> 
> I'm not a Mailman maintainer, but it might be helpful if you could post
> any information that would help narrow down the problem. Specifically,
> are most or all of the users who have this problem using a particular
> mail provider such as Gmail, or some other service? Have any of these
> users posted any information to you regarding the reason their mail
> service has improperly flagged these list posts?
> 
> -- 
> Lindsay Haisley       | "Everything works if you let it"
> FMP Computer Services |
> 512-259-1190          |          --- The Roadie
> http://www.fmp.com    |
> 
> 
> 
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Glen Page
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ThetNet - Thetford Academy
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