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StealthMonger StealthMonger at nym.mixmin.net
Sat Sep 4 20:56:36 CEST 2010


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Mark, thank you for your kind attention.

Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> writes:

> I don't have access to the MTA logs at mail.python.org, but even so, I
> am certain that the mailman-users at python.org list has been sending
> posts to your address.

Could you please positively verify this with someone who does have
access to the MTA logs?  I am pondering your mail to me, and don't yet
have any other good ideas.

> Since you do receive some mail (at least the welcome) from all the
> lists and you receive posts from one list, it is difficult to
> understand what might distinguish the mail you do receive from that
> which you don't receive.

Indeed.

> E.g. list posts are sent with Precedence: list, but you do receive
> posts from one list;

Yep.  Corroborated by headers on a received posting.  See below.

> There is no reason that I can see or imagine why your address would be
> singled out to not be sent posts from this or any other list if
> delivery is enabled which it is.

What I have imagined is that somewhere in the bowels of mailman record
is kept of whether there has ever been a CAPTCHA-like verification of
a subscriber, and that delivery is suppressed if not.  But my study so
far of the source code reveals no such thing.

> I think it must be some filtering in the path from the list(s) to you
> that is dropping the mail.

I'll be intensifying my investigation of this possibility as a result
of this mail from you, but I have to say I'm skeptical.

> The only thing I can even guess that might be causing this is
> subject prefixing.  Does the list from which you receive posts have
> a subject prefix of the form [listname]?

Yes.  See below.

> In case this is the problem, I will send another copy directly to you
> without the [Mailman-Users] subject prefix.  It will be interesting to
> see what you get.

Got both of them.  diff shows no surprises.

I don't think I violate anyone's confidences by sending you a complete
copy of the headers of a posting that I received from the one mailman
list from which I do receive postings:

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