[Mailman-Users] qfiles/shunt

[Con Wieland]

thanks Mark!  it was a file permission error:

Jan 15 18:54:54 2010 (8602) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
Permission den
ied: '/opt/nsp/mailman/archives/private/mc-niebla/index.html'

con

On Jan 17, 2010, at 8:04 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> Con Wieland wrote:
>>
>> I do not understand how thinks end up here. I thought shunting was
>> done before the message went to the archive but this particular list
>> has no archive. Can someone help me understand why this was shunted?
>> Does that mean it wasn't sent to the list?
>
>
> Shunting occurs whenever any of Mailman's 8 queue runners encounters  
> an
> unanticipated exception. It can occur during archiving by ArchRunner,
> in which case it may only affect the archive, during delivery by
> OutgoingRunner, in which case it affects only delivery, during
> processing by IncomingRunner, in which case it affects lots depending
> on where in the incoming process it occurred, and so forth.
>
> There is always an entry in Mailman's error log corresponding to the
> shunted message, unless perhaps the original problem involves logging,
> which gives the exception and a traceback and which is required to
> fully understand what happened.
>
>
>>
>> ~mailman/bin/dumpdb ./
>> 1263615579.8123469+01710ea356e0b7ebc47902b9d7adb839f7e82aa1.pck
>> [----- start pickle file -----]
>> <----- start object 1 ----->
>> From bvlai at uci.edu  Fri Jan 15 20:19:39 2010
> [...]
>> <----- start object 2 ----->
>> {   '_parsemsg': False,
>>    'adminapproved': 1,
>>    'approved': 1,
>>    'lang': 'en',
>>    'listname': 'mc-niebla',
>>    'original_sender': 'bvlai at uci.edu',
>>    'origsubj': 'Rate your RA :)',
>>    'pipeline': ['ToUsenet', 'AfterDelivery', 'Acknowledge',
>> 'ToOutgoing'],
>>    'received_time': 1263615579.8123469,
>>    'recips': [...],
>>    'rejection_notice': 'Your message was deemed inappropriate by the
>> moderator.',
>>    'sender': 'bvlai at uci.edu',
>>    'stripped_subject': <email.Header.Header instance at 0x2e8b20>,
>>    'tolist': 1,
>>    'version': 3,
>>    'whichq': '/opt/nsp/mailman/qfiles/archive'}
>> [----- end pickle file -----]
>
>
> I can tell from the above metadata that this exception occurred in
> ArchRunner because of 'whichq', that it was a list post from a
> moderated member, approved by a moderator.
>
> I can't tell what the exception was or why it occurred without the
> error log information.
>
>
> Assuming there were no other shuntings of this message, it was
> delivered to the recipients.
>
> -- 
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan