[Mailman-Users] Google gmail problem

[Dragon]

I meant to send this to the list but it only went out to the OP, damned
reply-to setting on this list (I know, I know, y'all think it is good, I
STILL disagree and always will).



On Thu, March 13, 2008 17:22, Hank van Cleef wrote:
> I'm posting this to the mailman-users list in hopes that I can get some
input that will either explain or resolve a problem I am having with
gmail users.
>
> Their complaint is that they do not see a copy of their posts to the
list reflected back to them.
>
> The options profile for these users is typically "nodupes" and "plain"
All other flags (including the ack and not metoo) flags are clear.
>
> My system is configured with personalization enabled, and the
> individual messages sent out are personalized.
>
> Basic configuration is Mailman 2.1.9, Solaris 5.9, sendmail
> 8.13.8+Sun.
>
> Sendmail logs are quite clear that the user messages are being sent back
to the users and received and acknowledged by the google mail servers
(dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent).
>
> I'm a bit hampered by knowing absolutely nothing about gmail.  I've got
one user who is quite adamant that the problem is at my end.
>
> "   True with emails from this list, but not with other lists I
> am subscribed to.  Gmail shows both sent one and the copy coming back at
me." (from "other lists," which are not identified).
>
> Does anybody have any experience with this problem?  Is there a
> solution, and if so, what?
>

This is a known problem with Gmail which suppresses display of any message
it receives that has a message ID matching one in the sent messages
mailbox.

I am not certain, but I believe that if somebody replies to a post that
was made from a Gmail account, the original post will then "magically"
appear in the threaded view. Since I don't use Gmail, I have to admit this
is hearsay at this point.

There is really nothing anyone can do about it unless and until Google
decides to change it. Your users either have to live with it or use a
different service.


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