[Mailman-Users] can't get "open" list to work

[bergenpeak at comcast.net]

All of the tests below where based on a user sending a mail with "subscribe" to the mail distro list-xyz at domain.com.  If I instead have the user send the subscribe message to list-xyz-request at domain.com, they get added to the distro without confirmation or approver interaction. 

Ok, that's the behavior that I want but are the two different behaviors expected?   Specifically, the "open" list mechanism only operates as "open" if you send mail to the "-request" list?  

It looks when messages are sent to the main list (with subscribe as subject), they are correctly being identifed as admin in nature, but flagged for approval whereas the list is defined as open for subscriptions.

Thanks

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> 

> bergenpeak at comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> >I've got a number of mail lists I'd like to run without requiring the user to 
> performan a confirmation or for the list-admin to approve. I've added to 
> "mm_cfg.py" the lines: 
> > 
> >DEFAULT_SUBSCRIBE_POLICY = 0 
> >ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = yes 
> > 
> >and then stopped and restarted mailman. If I send a message with "subscribe" 
> in the subject to one of the lists, the list admin still gets a mail indicating 
> that the subscription request needs to be approved. 
> 
> 
> Because the settings you changed only allow open subscribes and set the 
> default for new lists (which you may or may not want to be 'open'). 
> 
> You now have to go to the admin interface for each list for which you 
> want open subscribes and on the Privacy options...->Subscription rules 
> page, set subscribe_policy to None. 
> 
> 
> >Thinking that the issue was that the user was a non-member, I added the user's 
> domain into the "accept_these_nonmembers". The behavior is the same-- the list 
> admin gets a mail to approve their subscription request. 
> > 
> >I then removed the domain info under "accept_these_nonmembers" and changed 
> "generic_nonmember_action" to accept and the list admin still get a mail 
> indicating an approval is required. 
> > 
> >The "subscribe_policy" shows as none under the UI. 
> 
> 
> If you're certain that you are looking at subscribe_policy for the list 
> for which approval was required and that it was None at the time the 
> subscription was requested, then I don't understand what the problem 
> is. 
> 
> You could try setting it to something other than None and then setting 
> it back to None, but that shouldn't really change anything. 
> 
> 
> >Is there another setting I need to tweak so that the list admin does not need 
> to approve subscriptions? 
> > 
> >Is a completely open list (no user confirmation, no list admin approval) 
> possible? I intend to lock things down via the ban list once I get the open 
> portion working as I expect. 
> 
> 
> Yes. That's what subscribe_policy = None (actually 0) is for. 
> 
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