[Mailman-Users] a few questions about the NNTP gateway
Manlio Perillo
manlio_perillo at libero.it
Tue Aug 7 07:05:20 CEST 2007
Brad Knowles ha scritto:
> On 8/6/07, Manlio Perillo wrote:
>
>> I'm using Mailman 2.1.5.
>
> BTW, the most recent version of Mailman is 2.1.9, which has a number of
> new features and some fixes for certain security holes. I'd strongly
> encourage you to upgrade.
>
Mailman runs on a Debian Sarge server, so this can be a problem without
an upgrade to Etch (but security problems are not a problem, with Debian).
>> I have enabled the NNTP Gateway but there are some problems.
>>
>> 1) The messages from the newsgroup are not sent on the mailing list.
>> I don't know why, there is nothing in the error log
>
> Go to the web admin page for your list, then go to the sub-page for
> "Mail<->News gateways".
> Is the news server hostname filled in?
Yes
> Is the newsgroup name filled in?
Yes
> Is the moderation policy set correctly?
The mailing list is not moderated (but requires subscription), the
newsgroup is not moderated, so I have set the value "None"
> Do you have the radio buttons set correctly for passing traffic both ways?
Yes
>
> In your mm_cfg.py file, do you have the correct definitions for the
> username and password you need to use when logging into the news server
> to retrieve and post articles?
>
The NNTP server requires no password
>> 2) When sending a message to the newsgroup, Mailman does not obscure the
>> email address
>> (there is an obscure_addresses, but it only works for the web
>> archiver)
>
> Correct. Mailman does not attempt to obscure addresses when posting
> mail messages to a newsgroup.
>
Ok.
>> I would like to know if 2) has been implemented in recent Mailman
>> releases.
>
> Not so far as I know, but it shouldn't be hard to add. However, one
> problem you'll have is that many news servers will reject your articles,
> if you use an address obfuscation scheme that they don't support.
>
Not sure.
As an example I always use an obsured email address on usenet, without
problems.
But, indeed, I see that on comp.lang.python many people use their real
email address.
> So, your choices are to not do any obfuscation at all for news articles
> (which is what Mailman does today), or see if there is some common
> format of obfuscation that virtually all news servers are known to support.
>
> Of course, if they support it then the spammers probably already know
> about it as well, and anything you can do they are likely to be able to
> un-do.
>
Yes, this is true, unfortunately.
>> One last thing.
>> What happens when Mailman have to send an email message with a broken
>> Subject header (R: instead of Re) to the newsgroup?
>
> I think what happens is that the subject header will get treated as a
> normal subject, and may have additional things tacked onto the front of
> the subject line, whereas normally Mailman would have recognized the
> "Re:" portion and potentially tacked those things on between the "Re:"
> string(s) and the rest of the subject.
>
It would be nice if mailman can apply a filter to the subject, and to
fix it.
> But one of the core Mailman developers would be more likely to know the
> answer to that question, and they're also on this list. Hopefully
> they'll be able to respond to you within a few days.
>
Thanks and regards Manlio Perillo
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