[Mailman-Users] Messages not delivered *RESOLVED*

[Robert Haack]

I just thought that I would report on what I've found.

I setup another copy of Mailman on a different server and created all of 
the exact same test lists I had on my live server.  However on this 
server I did not install Jim Tittsler's patch to allow another list to 
post to a list.  I just copied the users who could post to the list into 
the "Addresses that should be accepted".  I created a quick and dirty 
program to send emails to all of the lists as different user names.  
After running 30 tests I had no problems with any messages getting 
lost.  So today I changed all of my test lists on my live server so that 
they no longer use a list name to verify who can post to the list.  I 
just took their names and pasted them in.  I ran another 30 tests and 
again had no problem.  So to me it seems to be this patch that caused my 
problems and the patch works great if a user only posts to a single 
list, but if they post to multiple lists then that's when the problem 
arose for me.

So now I have another question.  Is there some way that I can 
automatically add a name to the "List of non-member addresses whose 
postings should be automatically accepted?"  For us this list changes on 
a regular basis and I'd hate to have to go through our 20+ lists and 
update them all manually?

TIA

Robert Haack
Programmer Analyst
North Clackamas School District #12
haack at nclack.k12.or.us



Robert Haack wrote:

>>Robert Haack wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I've been doing some testing and here is what I've found in addition to
>>>
>>>what's below:
>>>
>>>I sent a message to 6 lists titled test, testtwo, test3, test_4, test_5, 
>>>and test_6.  On a consistent basis it appears that only 4 of these lists 
>>>get the message.  If I look at my postfix log I see that the message was 
>>>processed successfully yet when I look in the mailman/qfiles/in 
>>>directory I only see the message come through to 4 of the 6 lists (I 
>>>know this partly because the message get stuck in the que).  It's not 
>>>the same 4 lists each time that the message comes through to either and 
>>>there are no messages in any of the other directories under qfiles/.  I 
>>>see nothing in the Mailman log files that indicates any error.  It's 
>>>almost like postfix hands the message off to Mailman and then things go 
>>>haywire.
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Does the postfix log show that the message was piped to the wrapper for
>>all 6 lists (i.e. six deliveries)?
>>
>>    
>>
>Mark,
>
>I believe it does.  I've included the partial log for each of the 6 
>lists I mentioned.  I didn't know if it would help any but I figured it 
>was worth a shot.   The interesting thing I noticed was that testtwo, 
>test3, and test_6 all show 2 bounces in the log file as well yet for 
>both tests I ran today I actually got both messages from these 3 lists.  
>I got one message for the list test_5 and it had one bounce.  I got 0 
>bounces for list test and test_4.  I got one message to the test list 
>and got none for list test_4. 
>
>Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23906]: 35B0C46A02: 
>to=<test at nclack.k12.or.
>us>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post 
>test")
>Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27457]: DE71346A09: 
>to=<test at nclack.k12.or.
>us>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman post 
>test")
>
>Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23471]: 35B0C46A02: 
>to=<testtwo at nclack.k12.
>or.us>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test
>two")
>Jun  3 08:42:28 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: A297846A02: 
>from=<testtwo-bounces at ncl
>ack.k12.or.us>, size=1707, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
>Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27498]: DE71346A09: 
>to=<testtwo at nclack.k12.
>or.us>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test
>two")
>Jun  3 08:52:31 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 14DCF46A09: 
>from=<testtwo-bounces at ncl
>ack.k12.or.us>, size=1691, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
>
>un  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23856]: 35B0C46A02: 
>to=<test3 at nclack.k12.or
>.us>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test3"
>)
>Jun  3 08:27:54 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 0FBA746A02: 
>from=<test3-bounces at nclac
>k.k12.or.us>, size=1735, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
>Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27449]: DE71346A09: 
>to=<test3 at nclack.k12.or
>.us>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test3"
>)
>Jun  3 08:55:00 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 5DC8B46A08: 
>from=<test3-bounces at nclac
>k.k12.or.us>, size=1719, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
>
>Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[24626]: 35B0C46A02: 
>to=<test_4 at nclack.k12.o
>r.us>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test_
>4")
>Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27456]: DE71346A09: 
>to=<test_4 at nclack.k12.o
>r.us>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test_
>4")
>
>Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[24619]: 35B0C46A02: 
>to=<test_5 at nclack.k12.o
>r.us>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test_
>5")
>Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27443]: DE71346A09: 
>to=<test_5 at nclack.k12.o
>r.us>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test_
>5")
>Jun  3 08:54:40 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: E864846A08: 
>from=<test_5-bounces at ncla
>ck.k12.or.us>, size=1736, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
>
>Jun  3 08:27:52 nclack postfix/local[23882]: 35B0C46A02: 
>to=<test_6 at nclack.k12.o
>r.us>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test_
>6")
>Jun  3 08:42:28 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: B0B2246A07: 
>from=<test_6-bounces at ncla
>ck.k12.or.us>, size=1752, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
>Jun  3 08:52:28 nclack postfix/local[27520]: DE71346A09: 
>to=<test_6 at nclack.k12.o
>r.us>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/var/mailman/mail/mailman 
>post test_
>6")
>Jun  3 08:54:40 nclack postfix/qmgr[1959]: 8F5E7469F4: 
>from=<test_6-bounces at ncla
>ck.k12.or.us>, size=1736, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
>
>Thanks
>
>Robert Haack
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