[Mailman-Users] bounced messages and VERP ??

[Richard Barrett]

On 1 Jul 2004, at 13:45, Yogesh Subhash Talekar wrote:

> Sorry
>
> I think I need a answer of a single question:
> How do I make sure that Mailman is not VERPing mails? And if I find 
> that
> it is VERPing mails then how do I turn it OFF ??
>

Look in Defaults.py for the comments about and the config variables 
that affect VERP to seee if it can be enabled and see what values they 
have there and if mm_cfg.py has overloaded them.

VERP'ing is done for different types of mail (regular postings, 
password reminders etc) depending on what the config variable settings 
are.

Check the personalization settings for the list concerned which will 
affect normal postings if allowed by the config variables..

Definitively, you can just check what your outbound MTA is logging to 
determine what it is receiving from Mailman. The 'To' line for an 
oubound mail should tell you what you need to know.

> Do I need to re-configure my list? What is the parameter in 
> sitelist.cfg
> file which I need to change for this??
>
> TIA
>
> --yogesh
>
>
>> thanks
>>
>> But I haven't any change. I am running postfix as it was. I observed 
>> the
>> thing when I fixed the problem with the ID and posted a test message.
>>
>> I wrote VERP because, I remember such a setting exists. But in fact I
>> haven't changed anything.
>>
>> Is this happening because few message to that ID had bounced and 
>> mailman
>> wants to be careful while sending mail to that ID so that in case it
>> bounces it will be easy to find the recipient address and increase his
>> bounce score ??
>>
>> --yogesh
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2004, at 12:22, Yogesh Subhash Talekar wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am using mailman with postfix.
>>>> While testing mailman I created a list with two address. Both had 
>>>> same
>>>> domain say "mydomain.com".
>>>>
>>>> When all was working fine, mailman/postfix used to copy a single 
>>>> mail
>>>> to
>>>> both the users.
>>>> I had a problem with one of the IDs and the mail destined to it 
>>>> bounced
>>>> few times. Later I fixed it, but found that now mailman (or postfix)
>>>> has
>>>> started copying two separate mails to both the users?
>>>>
>>>> What has changed? Is this a problem ? I may add more than 3000 users
>>>> from
>>>> the same domain and I don't want each user to get a separate copy!
>>>>
>>>
>>> The subject line of your post implies that you may have turned on
>>> Mailman's personalization to this list so that the return path is
>>> VERP'ed by Maiilman.
>>>
>>> If that is the case then each subscriber will by definition be sent a
>>> unique message by Mailman for each posting distributed.
>>>
>>> You would get a similar effect if, for instance, the MTA were
>>> generating VERP'ed messages from a single original message passed to 
>>> it
>>> by Mailman but addressed to multiple addresses.
>>>
>>> Could this be why you are seeing what you are seeing?
>>>
>>>> Please help/advice??
>>>>
>>>> --yogesh
>>>
>>
>>
>> --yogi
>>
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>
>
> --yogesh
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