[Mailman-Users] Subject Line Length Considered Spam

[jsmith]

Paul,

I couldn't agree with you more.  But, as I exchange email with a minimum
wage worker at excite that is doing what he was told to do (decision
from someone that hasn't got a clue) I still have people complaining.
Since people can still follow the link in the email is there a short
term fix that I can implement here until I can get this corrected with
excite.  

The worse art of this is the fact that they gave no error back that this
is what was happening.  Usually if you get blacklisted for spam the
error msg would say relying denied or some other useful msg to address
the issue.  This one did not.  I happened on it by mistake.  Then 2 + 2
added up about excite users complaining.  So I would bet this is
happening to every mailman installation that tries to send a
confirmation email to excite.

Any Ideas? Help?

Swift kick in the butt for the obvious?

I am not a programmer and it would be useless for me to start opening
files trying to track down the line of code that adds that as the
subject so I can modify it.  Not to mention what to modify it too.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul at thcwd.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 6:13 PM
To: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Subject Line Length Considered Spam

jsmith wrote:
>Excite is blocking any subject that has more than 22 characters due to
it 
>looking like
>commercial spam.  I would bet that other ISP's will be or have already
>started subject line filtering on the length as well.

      I am assuming you mean 22 consecutive characters without a 
break?  The subject you gave your post would violate a 22 character
limit.

      Even at 22 consecutive I think this is a rather short sighted,
over 
the top and totally worthless way to try and stop spam.  There are a lot
of 
systems that depend on subject lines with long confirmation codes, 
including some spam programs!  I would think an ISP that breaks this
many 
systems is going to lose some customers.


<>< Paul 


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