[Mailman-Users] Re: Templates

Wed Jul 2 09:59:42 CEST 2003

Hi Richard,

I have edited most of the template files in template/en (for our English mailing lists). They all work fine. I have even edited the header.html & footer.html for ht://Dig (btw, is there any way to configure the mailman integration to change the mailinglist.conf file to point header & footer to the lists search directory instead of $COMMON?)

The only pages left to edit are the listinfo page for the 'lists of lists', the subscriber options page, and the admin interface. I cannot figure out what template files these are generated by. I looked in listinfo.py and could not find any reference to html code at all!

An example: http://lists.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/mailman works fine, all nice and branded but if you go to http://lists.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo, it is not branded. How do I make the lists of lists look like every other part of the site?

Thanks for your help.

Timothy

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Barrett [mailto:r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk] 
Sent: 01 July 2003 19:01
To: Timothy Arnold
Cc: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates

At 18:27 01/07/2003, Timothy Arnold wrote:
>That's what I thought... Anyone recommend a good python book? >:)
>
>I presume this is the same for the subscriber options? I am trying to 
>make
>as much of the mailman interface that the end user (subscriber) sees Becta >branded as possible.

If you are using MM 2.1.2 then you will find a much of the html has been 
abstracted to the $prefix/templates directory language subdirectories and their brethren.

Although pages are being generated by MM scripts these now tend to populate template files rather than generate HTML from scratch.

You can set up/change these templates by language as follows (from the 
comments in $prefix/Mailman/Utils.py):

<quote>
     # When looking for a template in a specific language, there are 4 places
     # that are searched, in this order:
     #
     # 1. the list-specific language directory
     #    lists/<listname>/<language>
     #
     # 2. the domain-specific language directory
     #    templates/<list.host_name>/<language>
     #
     # 3. the site-wide language directory
     #    templates/site/<language>
     #
     # 4. the global default language directory
     #    templates/<language>
     #
     # The first match found stops the search.  In this way, you can specialize
     # templates at the desired level, or, if you use only the default
     # templates, you don't need to change anything.  You should never modify
     # files in the templates/<language> subdirectory, since Mailman will
     # overwrite these when you upgrade.  That's what the templates/site
     # language directories are for.
</quote>

Take a look at these template files and evaluate the template search 
hierarchy before concluding that hacking the Python code is the only way 
forward.

>Thanks,
>Timothy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul at thcwd.com]
>Sent: 01 July 2003 16:56
>To: mailman-users at python.org
>Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates
>
>
>       That is what I get for answering a question when I should not 
>yet
> be awake.  I belive that page is generated by a cgi script
>(mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo), which is going to make editing a real problem.
>
>At 09:37 AM 7/1/2003, you wrote:
> >That edits the listinfo for the list, not the list of lists...
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Timothy.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Paul H Byerly [mailto:paul at thcwd.com]
> >Sent: 01 July 2003 15:07
> >To: mailman-users at python.org
> >Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Templates
> >
> >
> >"Timothy Arnold" wrote:
> > >The problem I am having at the moment is trying to figure out how 
> > >to edit the main listinfo page 
> > >mailman.becta.org.uk/mailman/listinfo and the
> > end >user subscription page. We would like to make the site as 
> > branded as
> > >possible (except for admin interface). Does anyone know how to 
> > >achieve this?
> >
> >       From the admin page click "Edit public HTML pages on the right 
> > side a little above the Logout link.
> >
> >
> ><>< Paul
>
><>< Paul
>
>
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