auto unsub vs auto no-mail Re: [Mailman-Users] Questions

[Mitchell Marks]

At 04:51 PM 2/22/03, Jon Carnes wrote:
>On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 22:59, Swanko007 at aol.com wrote:
> > 1.  Can this program delete the wrong addresses automatically, where as 
> with
> > aol you have to do it manually?
>
>Nothing deletes a "wrong" address automatically, but if the address
>bounces too often then Mailman will automatically move the address over
>to "No Mail" so that it no longer sends mail to the address.

Is this strictly so, under 2.1 (or 2.1.1)?  Our list-owners get notices 
like this:

>Subject: WIT-L unsubscribe notification
>To: wit-l-owner at lists.cuip.net
>
>bshegog at excite.com has been removed from WIT-L.

And when we look at the membership roster for that list, the address in 
question will be just gone, not "No Mail".

In fact our list owners would prefer to only have automatic no-mail, not 
automatic complete removal.  That way they can look into the problem and 
either correct the address or reactivate it if it was only a temporary 
problem (though exceeding MM's grace period, I guess).

I can't seem to find the settings to turn off automatic full-unsubscribe, 
while retaining automatic no-mail and owner notification.  Short of turning 
off bounce-processing altogether, that is.

Here are the settings under "Bounce Processing" from one of our lists, 
where I was trying to prevent full-unsubscribe by trickery with the timing 
(that is, the combination of bounce_info_stale_after and 
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval).  Suggestions for better ways of 
getting this result will be much appreciated.   Maybe just raise the 
threshhold way up?  (But the list owners do want to be alerted to bad 
addresses...)

Here are the current settings:

bounce_processing: Yes
bounce_score_threshold: 5.0
bounce_info_stale_after: 7
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings: 10
bounce_you_are_disabled_warnings_interval: 8
bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner: Yes
bounce_notify_owner_on_disable: Yes
bounce_notify_owner_on_removal: Yes

Thanks for your help,

   Mitch Marks



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